As GOP convention kicks off, Obama still favorite
With the 2012 Republican Convention about to open its doors, here’s how the race shapes up at the moment, based on RealClearPolitics’ poll average:
In other words, too close to call. The investors at Intrade still make Obama the favorite, with 55.8 percent of dollars invested favoring the incumbent and 43.7 percent predicting a Romney victory. At fivethirtyeight.com, Nate Silver predicts a 2.4 percentage point margin for Obama come Nov. 6, with a 69.3 percent chance of an Obama re-election.
And according to Gallup, 58 percent of Americans believe Obama will be re-elected, compared to 36 percent who predict a Romney victory. Among Democrats, 86 percent predict victory for Obama, while Republicans are less confident in their champion, with just 65 percent predicting that it will be Romney raising his hand to take the oath of office in January.
Still a long way to go, including debates. But at this point Obama is showing strength, especially considering how poorly he should be doing as predicted by models that focus solely on the economy.
– Jay Bookman
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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 28th, 2012
10:48 am
DannyX:
Or add one (The Book of Mormon).
Not a big deal.
We support the better candidate for the principles we believe in.
Joe the Plutocrat
August 28th, 2012
10:48 am
JHM, in fact, it is the Declaration of Independence; which is NOT ‘law’ that…declares, “…all Men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights.” I don’t know that women are considered part of this; but it seems to me that ALL MEN includes Hispanics, African-Americans, homosexuals, and even Muslims. in addition; the Declaration makes no distinction between the Judeo-Christian “creator” and any other “creator”, which means those who recognize or defer to Wiccan creator, the Muslim creator, or even the secular humanist “creator” (aka the Big Bang)are endowed with the very same inalienable rights as white Christians.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 28th, 2012
10:49 am
0311 — “We “assert” our rights against government because they were already there as given by our Creator.”
Fortunately, there’s no creator or jesus in the Constitution. Ergo, no creator or jesus in our government.
“I “man” makes up the rights …………. the we get entities like Nazi Germany.”
And when man’s version of god makes the rules, we get atrocities like the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition. Oh, yes, and entities like the Taliban.
“And if you disagree with me that’s fine ……………… it just illuminates the difference between you and me.”
Yes. My statements are based on fact. Yours are based on belief.
Diversity At The RNC? I See Only A Few Black People In The Crowd
August 28th, 2012
10:50 am
@ragnar danneskjold
August 28th, 2012
10:34 am
If a Republican reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Democrat will delete it because he’s “offended”.
Well, I forwarded it.
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ATTRIBUTED TO ME
IF “IF” was a FIFTH we’d all be DRUNK.
“IF” Republicans stop telling LIES about the Democrats,
Democrats will stop telling the TRUTH ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 28th, 2012
10:50 am
Enjoyed the exchages ………. out for the day……………. everyone be nice to other posters.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 28th, 2012
10:50 am
…. the we get entities like Nazi Germany.
Godwin’s law (also known as Godwin’s Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin’s Law of Nazi Analogies[1][2]) is an argument made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2][non-primary source needed] that has become an Internet adage. It states: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.”[2][3] In other words, Godwin observed that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes a comparison to Hitler and the Nazis.
Don't Tread
August 28th, 2012
10:51 am
“that makes eradicating them that much more satisfying”
Sieg Heil!
Joe Hussein Mama
August 28th, 2012
10:52 am
C. Sense — “We are not here to pay for your poor choices….”
Now, if only President Bush had said that to Wachovia, Bank of America and a few other financial entities.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
10:52 am
“The American flag left on the moon by Arsmstrong/Aldrin is flying at “half-mast”.”
aw, that’s sweet.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
10:53 am
“You are very classy Rosita. So having to pay for your own birth control is making it illegal? Even if that includes you choice of abortion as birth control?”
speaking of classy –
1) if you’re paying your premium, you ARE paying for your own birth control
2) they’re trying to ban anything that is an “abortifacient” – including the pill
try keeping up with the news sometime.
HDB
August 28th, 2012
10:53 am
Reagans ghost
August 28th, 2012
10:35 am
No….the demographic breakdown that was transmitted states this: this election will be based on demographic trends because this is a segmented campaign. Romney needs to get a higher percentage of Hispanic votes (38%) than McCain did to counteract a possible loss of white voters….or Romney needs to get 61% of the WHITE vote to counteract the loss of Hispanic voters. John Boehner has already come out to say that he’s hoping that blacks and Hispanics don’t turn out to vote!! Are the voter-ID laws part of the disenfranchisement process that the Republicans are mastering this time???
http://news.yahoo.com/boehner-says-loud-hopes-blacks-latinos-wont-show-185558772.html?code=AQBIY3iU4vhXW5rNs_irEV–ytyKYVULRmvWvX2SKK6EgB2o0QT1_IJoGKaew0-f1UO2ocQlwom_0Pw3OlB3YMZo6MhKKrgHQx0bFhMXNQYqg2JvgA2qTttYNiRoYpvtX-d3Upx9U196Wk6-61WxfMtVJ4_z9zg7Xff-yqsBradFVvf5Dv5OPwPHc3MBWJnpPAk#_=_
They BOTH suck
August 28th, 2012
10:53 am
“We support the better candidate for the principles we believe in.”
Very true. Too bad we are not in many cases supporting better candidates as a whole, but the “better candidate for the principles we believe in.”
Seems like a subtle difference on paper, but can be a vast difference in reality. That goes for both D and R.
We need a viable 3rd and even 4th party to push the lethargic Ds and Rs.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 28th, 2012
10:53 am
J. Plutocrat — “JHM, in fact, it is the Declaration of Independence; which is NOT ‘law’ that…declares, “…all Men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights.”
I’m aware of that. And, as I like to remind people, the Declaration of Independence is a beautiful and timeless document, but it does not carry the force of law and it is not the basis for law in this country.
The Constitution is. And there’s no god and no jesus in it.
getalife
August 28th, 2012
10:54 am
“do you have both wind and flood cover?”
Yes. This house has survived many hurricanes with minor damage.
Rosita
August 28th, 2012
10:54 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801 since God created everybody, how can any one group of people on this earth claim to be God’s favored children. If you listen to white southern Baptist you’d think they are the only people God smiles upon and everyone else has to be converted to their worldview or be eradicated. . . And then they go out and and burn a black church to the ground. Did God tell them as his chosen people that it’s ok to hate like that?
SPC
August 28th, 2012
10:56 am
Obama has been a huge disappointment to me.
Joe the Plutocrat
August 28th, 2012
10:56 am
seems to me; if the National Socialist movement originated/grew in GERMANY in the 1920’s-30’s (different Constitution/law)WE (Unites States of America) don’t get entities like Nazi Germany; the GERMANS did. WE get neo-Nazi/racist entities like Aryan Nation, KKK, skin heads, etc.; but it is not possible for “Nazi Germany” to exist in the United States of America.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
10:57 am
“Obama has been a huge disappointment to me.”
have a nice hot cuppa and a biscuit, you’ll feel better.
harvey
August 28th, 2012
10:57 am
It stuns me that this is even a close race. Obama wouldn’t be close to winning were he not black. I know that isn’t a politically correct statement, but it is truth.
Rosita
August 28th, 2012
10:58 am
My dad fought in Vietnam and I’ve heard how God was on our side and all that. My question is, how the hell do we know who’s side God is on? He must have really hated that little girl that was running down the road burning up from that napalm. Was that God’s napalm? Did he want that girl incinerated? Did he throw a victory party that night to celebrate?
Mark in mid-town
August 28th, 2012
10:58 am
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck wrote: “Warren Buffett was asked if he stashed money in Swiss/Cayman accounts. He said no, that there were plenty of good, safe American banks. Of course Buffett does not try to evade taxes either.”
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Warren Buffett is a national treasure and a very ethical businessman imo. Nonetheless, Buffett has a net worth near 200 times greater than the net worth of Romney. Yet, Romney apparently pays a masively higher percentage of wealth in income taxes than Buffett? How can that be? Well, for one thing, Buffett avoids paying much in income taxes relative to his wealth because he ensures that a relatively very very tiny share of his massive wealth is actually ever realized as income. Most of his wealth is tied up in Berkshire Hathaway stock. Berkshire does not pay a dividend and Buffettt never sells any of his Berkshire stock holdings. So Buffett is able to take maximum advantage of compounding since near 100% of his wealth escapes being subject to income taxes.
They BOTH suck
August 28th, 2012
10:58 am
harvey
Are you saying blacks would be running to vote for Romney?
hahahahaha
getalife
August 28th, 2012
10:59 am
Like this one scout:
http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/2012/08/27/828-mike-luckovich-cartoon-neil-armstrong/
cnn is trying to keep this election close by only reading pro romney comments but failed.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 28th, 2012
10:59 am
J. Plutocrat — “seems to me; if the National Socialist movement originated/grew in GERMANY in the 1920’s-30’s (different Constitution/law)WE (Unites States of America) don’t get entities like Nazi Germany; the GERMANS did. WE get neo-Nazi/racist entities like Aryan Nation, KKK, skin heads, etc.; but it is not possible for “Nazi Germany” to exist in the United States of America.”
A very wise man once said this to me.
There is nothing particularly evil or bad about the German people that caused the Nazis to rise in their country. And there is nothing so good or special about anyone else — including Americans — that a similar thing couldn’t happen to them as well. We must all be ever watchful for signs of intolerance and repression in order to guard against that sort of thing happening in our own societies.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...
August 28th, 2012
10:59 am
WELCOME,
Who did Romney murder?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
August 28th, 2012
11:00 am
Coal miners say they were forced to attend Romney event and donate
“As a private employer, it was our decision and we made the decision not to pay the people,” the Murray chief financial officer said.
“We’re talking about an event that was in the best interest of anyone that’s related to the coal industry,” Moore added. “I do not believe that missing an eight-hour day, when you put it into perspective, when you think about how critical — critical this next election is, and how critical it is that we get someone in this office that supports coal — to give up eight hours for a career, I just don’t believe that there is anything negative about that.”
My oh my…
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
11:00 am
“Obama wouldn’t be close to winning were he not black.”
are you honestly saying that it gives him an ADVANTAGE???!!!
getalife
August 28th, 2012
11:01 am
harvey,
cons are racists.
You don’t have to pretend anymore that you are not racist.
Everyone knows it.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
11:01 am
(where’s Brocephus with his facepalm when you truly need it)
Joe the Plutocrat
August 28th, 2012
11:01 am
JHM, agreed. it reminds me of Obama’s “you can’t just make stuff up” comment, when one considers the “the United States has always been a Christian nation” myth/ruse.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...
August 28th, 2012
11:02 am
GETALIFE,
Good to hear…remember that flood coverage is limited to $500K dwelling and contents..unfortunately it’s a depreciated recovery meaning its’ actual cash value instead of replacement cost…You probably already know this…
Don't Tread
August 28th, 2012
11:02 am
“And then they go out and and burn a black church to the ground”
Do you have some proof that white churchgoers went out and burned a black church to the ground after listening to a sermon? Is this how your “eradication” plan gets started?
TBone
August 28th, 2012
11:03 am
If y’all believe this you are delusional. The white guilt vote cannot be counted on this go round. Even core constituencies have had enough of your savior and have opened their eyes to the degree of incompetence this guy brings to the table. Keep pushing your guy but don’t be surprised at the outcome in November. He’s toast!
Rosita
August 28th, 2012
11:04 am
“You are very classy Rosita. So having to pay for your own birth control is making it illegal? Even if that includes you choice of abortion as birth control?”
WOW! Your reading comprehension skills dazzle me guy. If birth control became ILLEGAL I couldn’t purchase it. DUH! What part of ILLEGAL don’t you understand? LMAO!
Rick Santorum flat out said make birth control illegal. Words mean something.
Matti
August 28th, 2012
11:04 am
USinUK,
Being black gives Obama an advantage in the same way that the American white Christian majority that pretty much controls our whole nation is being brutally persecuted and victimized by poor people and minorities.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 28th, 2012
11:04 am
(where’s Brocephus with his facepalm when you truly need it)
Courtesy of TBogg
http://static1.firedoglake.com/29/files/2012/06/jesus_facepalm.jpg
getalife
August 28th, 2012
11:05 am
“Obama has been a huge disappointment to me.”
Your expectations were too high con.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...
August 28th, 2012
11:05 am
GETALIFE,
How can you make the pronouncement that all “cons” are racists? I heard a left talk show host and guest suggests they should change the moniker of racists with “confederacy”…both absurd…certainly bigots exist in the world as we know it but racism is a totally different thing..
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
11:05 am
Kam – 11:04 –
brilliant!
Joe the Plutocrat
August 28th, 2012
11:07 am
JHM, I am far to cynical to believe anything beyond my feeling that “intolerance and repression” are political instruments. that is not to say they do not exist, but simply; accusing one’s political opponent of “intolerance and repression”; or better yets; accusing one’s political opponent of accusing oneself of favoring “intolerance and repression” is where the real value lies.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
August 28th, 2012
11:07 am
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101751881
tee hee hee
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 28th, 2012
11:09 am
FINALLY – the con jerbs program – in tampa – affimative action!
if you have any color, black, brown, red, mocha – just go down to
the convention center, and stand around, they’ll pay you.
make sure you get in front of a camera, tho
temp only – after 3 days or when the cameras leave,
whichevah comes first
TaxPayer
August 28th, 2012
11:09 am
Even though it’s against the law, lobbyists are throwing parties for members of Congress at the Republican National Convention, NBC News reports.
The 2007 Honest Leadership and Open Government Act prohibits lawmakers from attending convention parties that are “directly paid for by a registered lobbyist” or “a private entity that retains or employs such a registered lobbyist.” Here’s the loophole: As long as lobbyists and their employers do not directly pay for the party, it’s a free-for-all.
So lobbyists are creating separate consulting firms to throw parties on their behalf. These consulting firms are then selling party sponsorships to the lobbyists’ corporate clients, so the events still offer an opportunity for corporations to get cozy with lawmakers.
Rosita
August 28th, 2012
11:10 am
Furthermore to the moron that made that asinine statement about choosing abortion as birth control let me say this. Abortion is not something I personally will ever choose. But the choice I can make is to use birth control to choose the point in time that I want to have my children and Rick Snatorum flat out said he would take that choice away from every woman in America. Republicans advocate too many policies that actually promote the very things they want to eliminate. Deny a woman birth control and what do you get? Again I say when women are denied the right to control their own bodies like that we should tell men to do it with each other because they won’t get it from us.
Reagans ghost
August 28th, 2012
11:11 am
” coal miners were forced”………………..And we’ve never seen the Dems ” bus in” a rent a mob?
jconservative
August 28th, 2012
11:12 am
“But at this point Obama is showing strength,…”
I would disagree. At this point I would say that Romney/Ryan is showing weakness. Since it became apparent that Romney was the Republican nominee we have not had one week of the election being about Obama and the economy. Every week is about Romney or the Republican cause playing defense.
TaxPayer
August 28th, 2012
11:12 am
This episode of “How much for that Republican Congressman in the Window,” is moderated by ALEC Trebec.
Quagmire
August 28th, 2012
11:13 am
Kayaker 71 – Since you are the World’s Most Specialist of Racial Profiling(looking in the mirror, I bet you’re not). You can only speak about something you have read, not experienced. I tell you what, you and I can exchange Uniforms(skin color for you cons) and drive thru Alpharetta, Cobb, and Gwinnett late at night like I did when I first graduated from college and had to work 3 jobs. Let’s see how many times you get pulled over and questioned about looking suspicious. After that, then you have the right to post about racial profiling. We didn’t even mentioned banks, credit card companies, city developers, etc…………………………I don’t want your brain to explode.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...
August 28th, 2012
11:13 am
JOEPLUMMER,
Seems to me that the focus of each party is to make voting constituency feel like “victims”…kinda like the old sales adage of making prospect feel sick and then making them better due to naivete….
One side is using the 1% fairness issue a divisive issue despite fact that this tax increase would only cover 16% of problem…where’s the other 84% coming from? ..this is simply a political move and nothing else..demonizing success…the other is making those who pay taxes feel like victims of continued handouts for expanding “safety net”…
Williebkind
August 28th, 2012
11:16 am
This place is boring. I get the same ole if it is vile, disgusting, non-traditional, Christain, and based on extreme interpretation of the constitution from the same ole far left wackos then its grand. No its not!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...
August 28th, 2012
11:16 am
TAXPAYER,
You think the GOP has cornered the market on this shadow corruption? Both parties are equally guilty of this crap as they have to pander to those with the cash…they all spend 30% of time raising money…Obama is taking a campaigning sabbtical and congress is missing in action…nothing is getting done>
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
August 28th, 2012
11:16 am
Reagans ghost
August 28th, 2012
11:11 am
” coal miners were forced”………………..And we’ve never seen the Dems ” bus in” a rent a mob?
.
.
.
Are you admitting to the whole blog you don’t understand the difference?
Really?
Wowser.
Michael
August 28th, 2012
11:17 am
And God has again chosen an Isaac to deliver his message. And Isaac has drowned out the voices raised in Tampa. But, will people listen to Isaac? After all, God sent two hurricanes during the 2008 convention, and republicans did not get the message that God wants us to care for the least of us. I don’t normally preach, but the coincidences are very strong.
Personally, I worry about the safety of the republican platform. After all, if Chris Christy, Mike Huckabee, and Dick Morris all get on the speaking platform at the same, it might exceed the design capacity for both ego and weight. It will not be a pretty picture.
Call It Like It Is
August 28th, 2012
11:17 am
And on a side note I wonder if the residents of the 9th ward will blame Obama for the beatdown that is getting ready to happen from Isaac.
kimmer
August 28th, 2012
11:18 am
@ USinUK “because certain people (*cough* FOX *cough*) think that, if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it … which, considering the crapola that comes out of FOX viewers pieholes, seems to bear some fruit.”
HaHaHaHa! So I guess your buddy Jay has been hoodwinked by Fox too! You seriously expect people to believe that the poor economic outlook is just an illusion created by Fox news? Explain that to the 8-9% of workers (more like 15-20%) who are unemployed!
skydog
August 28th, 2012
11:18 am
get – Here is a song to help you ride the waves. It was originally done by Blues Image, but I like this version done by New Orleans group The Radiators.
http://www.tubelyrics.org/listen_fTbd_-iW0MM/the_radiators_ride_captain_ride_circle_line_early_show_new_york_ny_august_5_2010
TaxPayer
August 28th, 2012
11:18 am
The Romney/Ryan Tax plan–Cut taxes again for the one percent and give the bill to the 99%.
Williebkind
August 28th, 2012
11:19 am
Michael
August 28th, 2012
11:17 am
Did you notice the storm missed the area where the convention is held?
Middle of the Road
August 28th, 2012
11:19 am
What scares me is the very realistic possibility that Romney wins the popular vote but loses to Obama via the Electoral College. I hated the idea twelve years ago and I still hate it today. When are we ever going to abolish this antiquated concept? Wouldn’t it be grand if a vote in Georgia meant just as much as a vote in Ohio or Florida?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 28th, 2012
11:20 am
Obama has been a huge disappointment to me.
Well, me too, dang it! I thought at the very least he’d cancel these Equal Opportunity laws and get rid of this Civil Rights junk and put a stop to all this welfare Those People are getting. You just can’t imagine how shocked I was when it never happened. And after I’d voted for old cancer-face McCain and let Obama know how I feel, too. Sometimes you just can’t trust a politican to do what you want them to do.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
11:21 am
“You seriously expect people to believe that the poor economic outlook is just an illusion created by Fox news? Explain that to the 8-9% of workers (more like 15-20%) who are unemployed!”
yes. when FOX continues to ignore the realities – that corporations ARE sitting on record profits – that CEOS ARE raking in record salaries and bonueses – (which – I don’t know if you’ve heard this – but they’re the ones that actually, you know, HIRE and PAY people) … instead, the FOX-aganda lays all the blame for unemployment and low salaries at the door of the oval office, then, yes. that’s exactly what I’m saying.
Laprencilla
August 28th, 2012
11:22 am
“As GOP convention kicks off, Obama still (Jay’s) favorite”
This election won’t even be close. At the end of the day people vote their pocketbooks, and they’ve had four years to see the Hope ‘n Change guy can’t deliver.
Worst case the R’s win control of the Senate too and we get a replay of the six-year Bush Rubberstamp Congress.
Middle of the Road
August 28th, 2012
11:23 am
“Did you notice the storm missed the area where the convention is held?”
Yes, it was a glancing blow, but it disrupted the schedule for a day and will steal the lion’s share of the headlines and attention from the convention. That said, I find it very hard to believe that any deity cares much about a political convention.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
11:25 am
“That said, I find it very hard to believe that any deity cares much about a political convention.”
but … but … but … Pat Robertson!
Rosita
August 28th, 2012
11:26 am
“One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is, I think, the dangers of contraception in this country. . . . Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that’s okay, contraception is okay. It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be,” it meant he opposed birth control access. Even sillier ladies, thinking that when he saidGriswold v. Connecticut (the Supreme Court case striking down state laws prohibiting birth control) was decided wrongly, he meant that states should have the right to outlaw birth control.
SILLY SILLY LADIES. If I knew how to underline that phrase
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 28th, 2012
11:27 am
Jay _ I am counting on you to watch the RNC tonight and write about it in the morning. These things are to boring for me to watch. Thank you.
paulo977
August 28th, 2012
11:27 am
USinUK…Normal – don’t know if you saw this one, but I thought you, Granny, Doggone and dB would get a kick out of it:
____________________________________________________
Very clever !!!!!!!
Common Sense
August 28th, 2012
11:28 am
“Now, if only President Bush had said that to Wachovia, Bank of America and a few other financial entities.”
No arguments there…..but he did not do it on his own.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
11:29 am
“It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be”
wait … we need a license???
DannyX
August 28th, 2012
11:29 am
“Explain that to the 8-9% of workers (more like 15-20%) who are unemployed!”
Lets have Paul Ryan explain it to them:
“What we are trying to accomplish here is the recognition of the fact that in recessions, unemployment lags on even well after recovery takes place.”- Paul Ryan
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...
August 28th, 2012
11:30 am
USNUK
You, like other blue sheep, forgot the other side of the story..large corporations are sitting on record profits due to lower demand and an uncertain political climate not the least of which if fed policy as well as Obamacare (which will be a disaster unless tweaked materially..), a global economy that makes investments domestically more of a risk..look at apple, they make any jobs Bain may have outsourced overseas look like a pimple on elephants but…his heirs also paid ZERO taxes on his estate..point is if folks like apple want to keep prices relatively competitive on a global basis, the most efficient labor costs must be considered..
Finally, remember that the prime objective of business is NOT to provide US jobs..
the cat
August 28th, 2012
11:31 am
Donovan-I have been waiting on those specific job creation ideas you said you had. Can you provide them today please?
Common Sense
August 28th, 2012
11:31 am
“WOW! Your reading comprehension skills dazzle me guy. If birth control became ILLEGAL I couldn’t purchase it. DUH! What part of ILLEGAL don’t you understand? LMAO!”
Can you point to any legislation that has made birth control illegal?
You should be laughing. Because you are grasping at straws….
skydog
August 28th, 2012
11:32 am
Hey neck,
I venture to say nobody wants to pay for “those people”, sitting on the couch watching Oprah, drinking beer on the Gov tab, but what about these people kids?
They had no choice of being born unto these people.
Shouldn`t they not be allowed to eat?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...
August 28th, 2012
11:33 am
The candidates with most money win 94% of elections…kinda puts things in perspective eh?
Matti
August 28th, 2012
11:33 am
“It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be”
I dated a conservative Republican who demonstrated to me how things are supposed to be. Ummm… But I’m okay now, thanks!
You libs
August 28th, 2012
11:34 am
Laprencilla
I think more people have seen that this Congress can’t deliver.
Check out Nate Silver’s polls and predictions in the last presidential race.
EJ Moosa
August 28th, 2012
11:34 am
““What we are trying to accomplish here is the recognition of the fact that in recessions, unemployment lags on even well after recovery takes place.”
The recession has been over for years.
What we have just finished is the Obama Recovery. Employment only lags economic performance by four quarters.
gm
August 28th, 2012
11:34 am
Hey look at me I am a white male, I am between the age of 40-55 I have paid in too medicaid all my life, I dont care if rich pricks like Mitt and Paul give me a vocher when I reach 65 and I have to find another way to pay for the rest, even if my bill comes to 15k, as long as Obama dont get elected I dont mind throwing away my money.
This is the thinking of the poor, middle class uneducated rep white male, thank God there are more of other people then them”””’
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
11:35 am
“.large corporations are sitting on record profits due to lower demand … (snip)
Finally, remember that the prime objective of business is NOT to provide US jobs..”
OH!!! irony couldn’t be more delicious if it was covered in chocolate.
Rosita
August 28th, 2012
11:36 am
These conventions are nothing more than partisan preaching to the choir. Does anybody other than the fans of each party even watch these things. I know I have better things to do.
I already know who wants to check my papers and treat me like I don’t belong here. All the speeches in the world don’t erase laws that get passed in certain states controlled by certain parties. After 9/11 it seems a tidal wave of pent up hate got unleashed in this country and directed at a heck of a lot of people that are just as good an American and love this country just as much as the wingnuts and haters profess to. I want the America prior to 9/11 back. It was a much nicer country then.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
11:36 am
“Can you point to any legislation that has made birth control illegal?”
again, see personhood legislation
THAT is designed to prohibit abortifacients
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...
August 28th, 2012
11:37 am
SKYDOG,
I agree with kids comment…the crime rate decreased 18 years after Roe decision…hard to believe the GOP wants to eliminate womens right to choose as the worst thing in my book is kids growing up in a household that is incapable of keeping unwanted kids on the right path..
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
11:37 am
“Employment only lags economic performance by four quarters”
actually – up to 8 in a normal recession
this was no normal recession.
Brosephus™
August 28th, 2012
11:37 am
kayaker 71
August 28th, 2012
10:22 am
Granny,10:14,
You must think that this is some sort of conspiracy against black drivers. Of course, you can ignore that nearly half of the male prison population in this country is black and they only represent about 6% of the population mix. Police officers, both black and white, gravitate to where the potential perps are. It it walks like a duck……
So, if we’re supposed to go off of stereotypes and sh*t like that, explain to me why we should turn the country over to a White man who made his money on Wall Street? Aren’t White men in suits from Wall Street all crooked and above the law when it comes to what they can get away with. Why break the rules when you can pay somebody to change them.
If it walks like a duck…
HDB
August 28th, 2012
11:38 am
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/08/2012-or-never-for-gops-white-base.html
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...
August 28th, 2012
11:38 am
USNUK,
The term irony is one of the most misunderstood words in our language..can you elaborate on your use of this word on your last post?
skydog
August 28th, 2012
11:39 am
Stevie – The candidates with most money win 94% of elections…kinda puts things in perspective eh?
Not since the Citizen Council vote on PACs.
There is a saturation point for both sides, so the + money won`t matter.
F. Sinkwich
August 28th, 2012
11:40 am
“Confidence among U.S. consumers fell in August by the most in 10 months as households grew more pessimistic about their employment prospects and the economic outlook.”
But, but, stock prices! CEO pay!
Face it, O’bozo sux.
Newby
August 28th, 2012
11:41 am
It seems to me that there are two views on the economy. I think everyone agrees that deficits DO matter, and the the deficit (and the debt) are too high.
So, do we grow the economy to the point where it can withstand the needed cuts, or do we cut first and let the chips fall where they may?
I personally believe the prudent course is to strengthen the economy first, as I believe immediate cuts are likely to cause the economy to take a dump. Any thoughtful comments in opposition are welcome.
Common Sense
August 28th, 2012
11:42 am
again, see personhood legislation
And that’s your birth control? And that is at a federal level? And just how many votes did it get?
Keep reaching…
Meanwhile, the economy continues deteriorating.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...
August 28th, 2012
11:42 am
BRO,
Another little anecodote…the prison contractors need to put heads in beds…particularly at 50K cost per inmate per year…the majority of those incarcerated are guilty of minor drug offenses with the have nots getting the shaft…..another example of private money influencing the continued waste of our tax dollars…
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
11:43 am
Stevie –
irony = where the result is the opposite of what you would expect (eg, the Olympic swimmer that drowns, the preacher caught with the prostitute, etc)
in this case – the companies saying that they don’t have enough demand to hire – yet, their “job isn’t to create jobs” … in other words, maybe if they DID create a few jobs, maybe juuuuuuuuuust maybe, they’d see an increase in demand
Rosita
August 28th, 2012
11:43 am
No Common Sense because at least there are enough of us to keep laws like that from being passed by REPUBLICANS like sick Rick Santorum. That’s what this fight is all about. Keeping people of that ilk out of positions of power that would allow them to do it.
Peter
August 28th, 2012
11:43 am
Romney has flip flopped so much on his policy’s..he will say anything to get elected.
Williebkind
August 28th, 2012
11:43 am
“this was no normal recession.”
You are correct this is an OBAMA RECESSION!
Brosephus™
August 28th, 2012
11:44 am
JHM, in fact, it is the Declaration of Independence; which is NOT ‘law’ that…declares, “…all Men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights.” I don’t know that women are considered part of this; but it seems to me that ALL MEN includes Hispanics, African-Americans, homosexuals, and even Muslims.
At the time the Declaration of Independence was written, the term “all Men” did not include the people who you say it was. It was basically White male land owners. Why do you think the “Three-Fifth’s Compromise” ended up in the Constitution? Blacks were not considered Men and Hispanics were not even thought of in the context of this country.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
August 28th, 2012
11:44 am
Common Sense – you may not have a uterus – but I do (as do many other friends of mine) – you may not think it’s an important issue – but, I guarantee you, it is.
EJ Moosa
August 28th, 2012
11:44 am
“actually – up to 8 in a normal recession”
Actually, you are wrong. The correlation between the current economic performance and job creation is highest for the last four quarters, and not the last 8 quarters or longer.
You should verify the things you claim before stating them as fact.
Williebkind
August 28th, 2012
11:45 am
USinUK – pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
You sure do have wealth envy unless its Soros.