U.S. troops at Ft. Stewart plotted to kill Obama?

Boy, I’d sure like to know more about this, and I suspect that we will in time. But for the moment, this is all we know, via AP:

“LUDOWICI, Ga. — Prosecutors say a murder case against four soldiers in Georgia has revealed they formed an anarchist militia within the U.S. military with plans to overthrow the federal government.

One of the accused troops, Pfc. Michael Burnett, pleaded guilty Monday to manslaughter and gang charges in the December slayings of former soldier Michael Roark and his girlfriend, 17-year-old Tiffany York.

Burnett told a Long County judge that Roark, who had just left the Army, knew of the militia group’s plans and was killed because he was “a loose end.”

Prosecutor Isabel Pauley says the group bought $87,000 worth of guns and bomb-making materials and plotted to take over Fort Stewart, bomb targets in nearby Savannah and Washington state, as well as assassinate the president.”

Sometimes these things get blown out of proportion, but $87,000 in weaponry suggests otherwise. And when you’re willing to murder two people to keep the plot secret, you’re pretty serious about it. The bodies of Roark and York were found by fishermen along a deserted rural road. They had apparently been executed.

Michael Roark

Michael Roark

Tiffany York

Tiffany York

– Jay Bookman

212 comments Add your comment

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 27th, 2012
12:33 pm

I doubt many of our Second Amendments remedies crowd will stand up and discourage this nonsense. How many people must continue to die because of these “loners” and “self-appointed vigilantes” that seem so very close to the extreme GOPpers.

Oh, Wolvervine.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 27th, 2012
12:34 pm

Good Lord Almighty.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

August 27th, 2012
12:34 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

August 27th, 2012
12:35 pm

Oh, and THIRD!

getalife

August 27th, 2012
12:36 pm

That is ignorant like holding a convention in Tampa while the Gulf Coast gets hit by Isaaac.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 27th, 2012
12:36 pm

Thanks Kam for saving me the correction. :D

Adam

August 27th, 2012
12:37 pm

Actual Treason

Jay

August 27th, 2012
12:38 pm

I’d strongly advise folks not to get too far out ahead on this. As AP notes, this is being described as an “anarchist militia,” and who the hell knows what that means?

Joe Hussein Mama

August 27th, 2012
12:41 pm

Yeah, like a PFC is going to have his act lined up well enough to “take over Fort Stewart: with three buddies.

Aside from him being a nut, the dumbazz is strong indeed with that one.

Aquagirl

August 27th, 2012
12:41 pm

but $87,000 in weaponry suggests otherwise.

And the guy sentenced is a PFC. (That’s lower enlisted.) It sure wasn’t his paycheck running this operation.

Serving in the military while plotting to overthrow the government? Hang him for treason.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

August 27th, 2012
12:42 pm

Two yahoos in N. Ga. were just sentenced for the same thing.

Not a good reputation for the state of Ga.

the cat

August 27th, 2012
12:44 pm

Treason, try them and hang them high.

Doggone/GA

August 27th, 2012
12:46 pm

“Not a good reputation for the state of Ga”

Well, let’s say it’s not good for GA’s reputation among normal people. As this story already indicates…there ARE people out there for whom this might be a shining reputation.

Brosephus™

August 27th, 2012
12:46 pm

I’d be curious to see who all is involved with that alleged scheme. $87,000 ain’t nothing to sneeze at when looking at enlisted pay. That’s either a lot of savings or some financial genius at work there.

Jay

August 27th, 2012
12:49 pm

Bro, pure speculation, but there are various ways to raise that much dough.

Drugs. Selling military weapons/hardware on the black market, etc.

DJ Sniper

August 27th, 2012
12:49 pm

The next time any of you encounter an idiot who swears that Obama is dangerous for America, please bring this story up to them.

the cat

August 27th, 2012
12:50 pm

Jay-I would suggest someone else providing the cash. Truly chilling.

Joe Hussein Mama

August 27th, 2012
12:50 pm

Treason charges are rarely brought and hard to prove. And the punishment can be surprisingly light.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

IMO, the government would probably get a longer sentence for less effort by nailing him on weapons and conspiracy charges, plus the murders noted above.

ByteMe - Political thug

August 27th, 2012
12:53 pm

And the guy sentenced is a PFC. (That’s lower enlisted.) It sure wasn’t his paycheck running this operation.

That was my first thought as well. PFC pay would qualify him for food stamps in the real world. So where’d the money come from?

Real Scootter

August 27th, 2012
12:54 pm

Not a good reputation for the state of Ga.

Well Kam,”bad” reputation is all we got!! That’s why we try to keep it. :lol:

Jefferson

August 27th, 2012
12:54 pm

Tired of taking orders ?

Brosephus™

August 27th, 2012
12:55 pm

Jay

My point exactly. If that’s true, there’s gotta be some incriminating evidence somewhere of the fundraising that was needed to get those weapons. Either that, or there should be inventory discrepancies that can possibly account for the weapons cache, if they are military issued.

Mr Right

August 27th, 2012
12:56 pm

Jay

August 27th, 2012
12:38 pm

I’d strongly advise folks not to get too far out ahead on this. As AP notes, this is being described as an “anarchist militia,” and who the hell knows what that means?

So why are you stirring the pot ?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 27th, 2012
12:57 pm

So will Orily be appearing to defend them? It’s not treason if he is not the legitimate President, right? ;)

Jay

August 27th, 2012
12:57 pm

I’m sorry, Mr. Righty. You wanted to be kept in the dark about this? Gee, tell me next time, OK?

TaxPayer

August 27th, 2012
12:58 pm

I think it’s safe to say that these anarchists are not likely to be part of any radical left wing group operating out of Georgia.

Erwin's cat

August 27th, 2012
12:59 pm

Keep it partisan TP…keep it partisan

Mr Right

August 27th, 2012
1:01 pm

Yea please tell me! If I had to depend on you for news I would be screwed!

Live from the RNC in Tampa. Where is George W. Bush?

August 27th, 2012
1:01 pm

The mindset of some of these Georgians is unbelievable? There were two that were sentenced last week for similar crimes!! Is Georgia under attack and we are being kept in the dark?

Joe Hussein Mama

August 27th, 2012
1:02 pm

KUTGF — “So will Orily be appearing to defend them?”

Sounds good. Georgia could use another $20,000 ‘donation’ and Ms. Taitz is virtually guaranteed to act up in the courtroom. :D

Jay

August 27th, 2012
1:02 pm

Live, there’s no indication that these are Georgians. They are soldiers who were stationed here.

Matti

August 27th, 2012
1:02 pm

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 27th, 2012
1:03 pm

Mr Right

And would that be your first time?

Call It Like It Is

August 27th, 2012
1:04 pm

And it only took one post to compare these guys to the GOP. Because you know that is what the Republicans do, plot the death of our president with our own military. Beyond silly.

Mark Curran

August 27th, 2012
1:05 pm

IF you listened to hate radio all day, and those goofy Southern lunatics praising child torturing slave masters ( I wont mention any names but they rhyme with Lee and Davis), you would go starking raving mad too.

Garbage in – garbage out. And there is so much garbage and hate rammed down the gullible throats of people who were taught nothing in history class but BS. WE are not allowed to teach that Lee had slave girls whipped, or that he boasted that God intended slavery to be painful. We are not allowed to teach that Davis ran away in a dress leaving his children behind in danger while bullets flew.

Truth matters, and we don’t teach it. WE should not teach history AT ALL in schools, if all th ey are gonna do is goofy distortions.

How many hours a day can the weak minded listen to hate radio, and not think they HAVE to do something to stop the evil people?

Aquagirl

August 27th, 2012
1:05 pm

Not a good reputation for the state of Ga.

In defense of Georgia (can’t believe I’m saying this) the soldiers probably weren’t from here, they were only stationed at Ft. Stewart. Georgia doesn’t run that either. Unless they have ties to locals, it’s not Jawja’s mess even if most people think it is.

BTW, a news story from last December listed the other rats, they’re all lower enlisted.

http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-washington-state-soldier-slain-days-after-his-discharge-from-army-20111214,0,3603598.story

TaxPayer

August 27th, 2012
1:08 pm

Keep it partisan TP…keep it partisan

Perhaps Erwin wishes to challenge my claim. Nah! Didn’t think so.

getalife

August 27th, 2012
1:09 pm

When will they label cons enemy combatants?

Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel

August 27th, 2012
1:09 pm

Yeah, like a PFC is going to have his act lined up well enough to “take over Fort Stewart: with three buddies.

I was thinking that same thing. The only thing i could come up with is that the PFC worked in the armorey and had access to “dead” weapons, (weapons being replaced with newer models); and was selling them on the side.

But then, he’d have to have at least 8 accomplices inside the armorey to make that happen.

$87K is not small potatoes, this is probably a “Tuner Diaries” reader. IN the diaries it has a plan to infiltrate different levels of government and work within their ranks to bring them down.

Joe Hussein Mama

August 27th, 2012
1:10 pm

Aquagirl — “BTW, a news story from last December listed the other rats, they’re all lower enlisted.”

It’s not specified if they were in the same company/troop/battery together, but if they were, they’re probably the Kiss of Death for their CO’s military career. And I imagine their First Sergeant was getting asked some hard questions, too.

kayaker 71

August 27th, 2012
1:10 pm

Seems like not too long ago there was a young man and his girlfriend who had similar things in mind. Friends of Bozo, I might add. Now they are teaching at some University in Chicago.

Tommy Maddox

August 27th, 2012
1:11 pm

Being stationed on a Post in Georgia does not necessarily make a nutball soldier a Georgian.

Fred ™

August 27th, 2012
1:13 pm

How coincidental. I read an article the other day that talked about those #$@% %##$@ *%$$ sad excuse for human beings, the White Supremacists encouraging their young members to join the military to get trained for the race war to come. This seems to fit right in……..

Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel

August 27th, 2012
1:13 pm

Janaet N -Homeland Chief – told us to look out for the crazies. The repubs reviled her, said she was blowing smoke; but since the half dozen or so arrests, (those old guys in the georgia mountains being one), it seems that she was corrct and the repubs were the ones blowing smoke.

Also, i blame talk radio for this. if anyone ever can stomach listening to the likes of Bortz, et. al. all they do all day is screech about Obama. No matter what the topic, it always comes back to Obama. That type of diet of steady hate filled diatribe would push anyone over the edge.

But especially someone as weak minded as a republican who earns less than $40K a year.

ken

August 27th, 2012
1:14 pm

Romney is ahead in the Ohio presidential polls !!!! Go Mitt !!

Newby

August 27th, 2012
1:15 pm

Call it said, ” Because you know that is what the Republicans do, plot the death of our president with our own military.”

I think we would all agree that that is not true. It’s usually a lone gunman. :)

I realize this isn’t really a joking matter, and apologize for my poor taste.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

August 27th, 2012
1:15 pm

There must be some misunderstanding says Phil Collins. The weapons were for Syrian rebels and the head of state they were targeting was Assad. The money came from the CIA. Yeah that’s the ticket.

Fred ™

August 27th, 2012
1:15 pm

kayaker 71

August 27th, 2012
1:10 pm

Seems like not too long ago there was a young man and his girlfriend who had similar things in mind. Friends of Bozo, I might add. Now they are teaching at some University in Chicago.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Bullcrap, Bozo has been dead since 2008 and he was 83 when he died. I doubt his friends are teaching anywhere.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 27th, 2012
1:18 pm

Call it like it is, I stand by my post. It’s too bad that you can’t stand up to the GOP and tell them to quit embracing radical types. Now let’s be clear….I have no idea if these accused are GOP members. I do know that when the GOP candidate suggests that the President is not born in this country (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) and when the constant harping is that “he is not American”, the GOP stands proud (see, Trump, Newt and the other members of the clown car parade speaking to the GOP this week, including 7 6 birthers)…but when the results of their encouragement bears fruit (whether actually affirmatively intended or merely because of their reckless behavior), the standard is of course to whine and claim “why we neva…..”

John McCain stood tall when he stopped the crazy and said Obama is a US citizen….Mitt continues to go the low road and its a whistlecall to the fruitcakes and extremists.

That Black Guy

August 27th, 2012
1:19 pm

Jay

August 27th, 2012
12:38 pm
I’d strongly advise folks not to get too far out ahead on this. As AP notes, this is being described as an “anarchist militia,” and who the hell knows what that means?
__________________________________________________
No Jay, they were right wing nutjobs.

And since we both KNOW that communists always use violence to further their cause, the MUST be Obama zombies.

Those ultra rightwing far left bigots will be the death of this country.

/sarc

Madmax

August 27th, 2012
1:19 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 27th, 2012
12:33 pm
Congrats! 1st post tries to smear the GOP.

kayaker 71

August 27th, 2012
1:19 pm

Fred, 1:15,

No, Fred….. you’ve got it wrong. Bozo is alive and well and occupying government housing in DC. Tell me, why do you make this a race thing, Fred?

Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel

August 27th, 2012
1:21 pm

Treason charges are rarely brought and hard to prove. And the punishment can be surprisingly light.

In the military, a charge of treason can get you hanged; especially during a time of war.

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Seems like not too long ago there was a young man and his girlfriend who had similar things in mind. Friends of Bozo, I might add. Now they are teaching at some University in Chicago.

I don’t want to get banned since this is a great topic BUT — dude, WAKE UP! You can’t really, honestly, seriously be that dumb! Can you?

Adam

August 27th, 2012
1:21 pm

getalife

August 27th, 2012
1:22 pm

Radical cons acceptance into the gop is a horrible idea.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

August 27th, 2012
1:23 pm

“John McCain stood tall when he stopped the crazy and said Obama is a US citizen”
****************************************

If McCain would have stood tall and picked the Veep running mate he wanted instead of allowing the far right looney bin cram Sarah Palin down his (and our) throat, he would have won the Presidency. They have only themselves to blame. 4 years later what has the GOP learned? Nothing, instead they want to double-down.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 27th, 2012
1:23 pm

Madmax, if the truth is a smear, that would be your fault for failing to stop your parties’ radicalism. Take personal responsibility and tell your party leaders to quit the codes and the dog whistles.

SheeshLouise

August 27th, 2012
1:24 pm

No different than when the U.S. sought to freeze accounts that they suspected had been funding terrorist operations overseas, what makes you think our home grown terrorists and militias are not funded by simlar means?? People need to pull their heads out of their behinds! CNBC aired a documentary one time “Dangerously Rich:Billionaire Super Security”, and “Billionaire Security: Ultimate Protection Measures”.Check it out. It gives a lot of insight into the lengths that the rich and super rich are willing to go to to “protect” themselves, families and their “stuff”. Think it to be far fetched that the “rich” and “super rich” in this country could be funding these militia groups? Think it to be far-fetched that people like Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck, who use their platforms the way that the do could also somehow fund these types of people to give the ultimate support to the agenda? Think again.

Ron Paul had it right at his convention yesterday. The biggest threat to the U.S. is Fascism. All this big money and big money people have an agenda, and as long as there are “loners”, “nuts”, “lone wolves” and other brainwashed rubes who are out here to take their money filtered through whatever anonymous channels and arm themselves up and cause chaos and do their bidding, hey…what do they care? THEIR interests are served, their “stuff” and families are PROTECTED!

St Simons - he-ne-ha

August 27th, 2012
1:25 pm

I was at Ft Stewart Saturday, (which is neither here nor there).
Some people here think this was just a cool story to cop a plea to.
To save their stinkin hides.
Something down from Murder 1, which could get them the lethal
jection table, and rightfully so.
These boys were into some illegal stuff, alright.
but they couldn’t overthrow a 7-11.

I’m not pretending to speak for SE Georgia here, but I am sure a
significant majority of the local people would like to see all 4 of them
publicly executed on the town square, for what we know they’ve
already done.

On another note, if this story is true – this is what a bazillion dollars
worth of unlimited hate propaganda poured into young ignorant
undereducated minds can do. And we know who to thank for that.
Thanks.

(you can pull this if it’s inappropriate, but i think its pretty accurate)

That Black Guy

August 27th, 2012
1:26 pm

Jay

August 27th, 2012
1:02 pm
Live, there’s no indication that these are Georgians. They are soldiers who were stationed here.
__________________________________________________________________
Come on Jay.

You know the just HAVE to be redneck, backwoods, hillbilly,inbred, trailerpark rubes.
They were into guns so that must make them one or all of the above.

Those uberfarleft anarchists.

Always messing stuff up.

Joe Hussein Mama

August 27th, 2012
1:27 pm

M. Marcus — “In the military, a charge of treason can get you hanged; especially during a time of war.”

Yes, but that’s not the situation here. And given the wording of the statute, I’m not sure if prosecutors could *prove* it.

yuzeyurbrane

August 27th, 2012
1:28 pm

Terrorism in this country has almost always been by right-wing Americans. Ku Klux Klan anyone? I recently read an article about how skin-heads and other Nazi type groups were actively having their members volunteer for military service in order to receive taxpayer paid military training, that they had been forming cells and gangs, and that the Defense Dept. had started an investigation into this. It doesn’t surprise me that some could not wait to leave the military before using their new skills. Tea Partyers, what do you think about this development? You reap what you sow.

That Black Guy

August 27th, 2012
1:28 pm

Mark Curran

August 27th, 2012
1:05 pm
IF you listened to hate radio all day, and those goofy Southern lunatics praising child torturing slave masters ( I wont mention any names but they rhyme with Lee and Davis), you would go starking raving mad too.
__________________________________________
And you KNOW they listened to “hate radio” how?

Or are you just ASSuming?

kayaker 71

August 27th, 2012
1:29 pm

Mr. Marcus, 1:21,

I’ll take it really slow so you can understand….OK?. The guy’s name was Bill Ayres, a retired professor from the University of Chicago who is now married to a woman named Bernadine Dorn. Ayres founded the Weather Underground, a communist revolutionary group. Ayres and his buddies bombed several buildings, including police stations, the Pentagon and the US Capitol. Bozo had his political start in Bill Ayres’s living room. Now who is the dumbass?

Grasshopper

August 27th, 2012
1:29 pm

Refresh my memory — I know he’s not the president but was the Black Panther bounty on Zimmerman ever discussed on this blog?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/03/26/149399082/new-black-panther-party-offers-10k-bounty-for-george-zimmerman

Sophie's Choice

August 27th, 2012
1:31 pm

Yeah, Call It Like It Is(n’t)– because so many teabagger & militia types self-identify as Democrats, right?

This is a disgrace to all the armed forces personnel who’re faithfully, lawfully, and professionally discharging their duties of loyalty to their Commander in Chief, even if they disagree with his politics. These plotters ought to be charged with and prosecuted for high treason. But it didn’t start with them– oh, no. All these right-wing pundits masquerading as journalists & talk radio blubberbutts who’re constantly frothing at the mouth about Obama have helped to create this atmosphere of hatred, this pervasive mentality of “us vs. Them”, and I’m sick of these bloviators getting away with it. You can’t wink your eye & advocate for anarchy whilst hiding behind the 1st Amendment, and expect a certain segment of the population not to take you seriously. Those who want to claim the left is equally as bad as the right with such sheninigans are just flat-out WRONG– you didn’t hear about left-leaning folk plotting to overthrow the government when Dubya was in office, nor did you see the left-leaning press tacitly encouraging such antics, either. If these charges are proven, I hope these miserable excuses for “soldiers”, as well as their financial backers, are punished to the maximum extent allowed under the law.

Madmax

August 27th, 2012
1:32 pm

Keep – There a big difference between the truth and your fantasized version of reality. Your hysteria and fear of those who don’t think like you is showing again. I suggest you follow Jay’s suggestion to not jump to any conclusions but then that wouldn’t fit in with your agenda, would it?

getalife

August 27th, 2012
1:32 pm

As usual, the cons deflect and sling poo.

It does not work here radicals.

Mark T

August 27th, 2012
1:32 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 27th, 2012
12:33 pm
I doubt many of our Second Amendments remedies crowd will stand up and discourage this nonsense. How many people must continue to die because of these “loners” and “self-appointed vigilantes” that seem so very close to the extreme GOPpers.

And just what is your solution to nut jobs like this…please do tell

Jack

August 27th, 2012
1:32 pm

Those four soldiers probably weren’t potty trained or weaned correctly. Surely it’s not their fault; it’s gotta be somebody else’s fault. Gotta get ‘em into rehab and then a foster home. Lil’ darlings likely came from a broken home with no father figure and on & on….

Donovan

August 27th, 2012
1:33 pm

Looks like a right wing conspiracy to me. Yup, you know those Republicans. They will do anything to out do Obama’s buddy, Bill Ayers.

Please…is this the best you can do to chum the waters for your little sharks to feed on?

Joe Hussein Mama

August 27th, 2012
1:34 pm

K71 — “Bozo had his political start in Bill Ayres’s living room. Now who is the dumbass?”

Why, that’d be YOU.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers_presidential_election_controversy

USMC

August 27th, 2012
1:34 pm

“I think it’s safe to say that these anarchists are not likely to be part of any radical left wing group operating out of Georgia.”–Taxpayer

Yeah, unfortunately those guys were too busy up in Chicago.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-5-wounded-in-shootings-across-the-city-20120825,0,7823757.story

getalife

August 27th, 2012
1:34 pm

I think the gop going radical to fight against our President after a collapse caused the radical cons over the edge.

willydoit?

August 27th, 2012
1:35 pm

“Terrorism in this country has almost always been by right-wing Americans”

Does Bookman mention what party they belonged to? I need to reread it, I must’ve missed that.

Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel

August 27th, 2012
1:35 pm

Yes, but that’s not the situation here. And given the wording of the statute, I’m not sure if prosecutors could *prove* it.

The standards of proof are a lot less in a military court. This is one i’d give to the military to prosecute — especially if the “act” (murder of the two); happened on the base, and their bodies were moved afterwards. If it goes to the local DA; she’d be burderned with a lot of “rights” for the accused. In a military court, that burden is greatly lifted.
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That Black Guy – no he doesnt know NOR was he saying exclusively that they listened to hate radio. What he was saying is that it could be a POSSIBIITY.

Mark T

August 27th, 2012
1:36 pm

While I do agree if they are found guilty, hang em like many have suuggested, I find it funny that many of the same liberals were crying about waterboading terrorist but when its our own they screaming for their heads before they even go on trial…talk about hypocrisy

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

August 27th, 2012
1:38 pm

More of your tax dollars wasted .Cut military spending NOW.

Aquagirl

August 27th, 2012
1:38 pm

But…but….BILL AYERS!

Con Derail Express leaving now on track #3. And y’all would just love to herd us on there, right? Anything to avoid discussing crazies in 2012 with $87,000 worth of weapons and military training.

Joe Hussein Mama

August 27th, 2012
1:38 pm

M. Marcus — “The standards of proof are a lot less in a military court. This is one i’d give to the military to prosecute — especially if the “act” (murder of the two); happened on the base, and their bodies were moved afterwards. If it goes to the local DA; she’d be burderned with a lot of “rights” for the accused. In a military court, that burden is greatly lifted.”

Completely agree, but IIRC, the murders took place off-post.

Madmax

August 27th, 2012
1:38 pm

For all of those who talk about right wing talk radio as being the problem: There is more “hate talk” from the left on this site than there is in a year’s worth of listening to all the right wing radio show hosts combined. It must be a very scary world to you.

Sophie's Choice

August 27th, 2012
1:39 pm

Joe Hussein @ 1:34: RIGHT ON, brother!

getalife

August 27th, 2012
1:39 pm

Guess who proposed to audit the Pentagon?

Mark T

August 27th, 2012
1:40 pm

yuzeyurbrane

August 27th, 2012
1:28 pm
Terrorism in this country has almost always been by right-wing Americans. Ku Klux Klan anyone?

Democrats started the KKK…try again

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 27th, 2012
1:40 pm

Well Mark, you will never be able to start all nut jobs. You can make it tougher and you can stand up when someone talks about “second amendment remedies” and that the President is not legitimate for whatever made up reason and say: He is our duly elected President. If you don’t like his policies, then you have representation to try to change that and you have a vote in elections. We do not have any violent remedies against lawfully and peacefully elected officials and NO ONE should advocate or even suggest that such violent remedies are an option

Again, its a shame that many extreme GOPpers (including those like Ted Nugent) cannot do that. I hope that moderate GOPpers will stand up and say enough is enough. Frankly, it does not matter whether the crazies are on the right or left….. enough is enough.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 27th, 2012
1:41 pm

stop not start

Mark T

August 27th, 2012
1:42 pm

How did this become a Democrat/Republican thing?

b-troll

August 27th, 2012
1:43 pm

“LUDOWICI, Ga.”

If you know anything about South GA, you know strange things happen in Ludowici.

Mark T

August 27th, 2012
1:45 pm

Keep, you still didnt answer the question…how do we make it tougher on these crazy idiots that are going around shooting people

F. Sinkwich

August 27th, 2012
1:45 pm

I have a well-placed source who confirmed that these idiots are Occutard refuges from that park in NYC…

DawgDad

August 27th, 2012
1:45 pm

“Tea Partyers, what do you think about this development? You reap what you sow.”

What an utterly idiotic comment. I would advise you STRONGLY to attend a Tea Party meeting. Otherwise, your blind ignorance will likely continue unabated.

kayaker 71

August 27th, 2012
1:46 pm

Aquagirl, 1:38,

I think that any reasonable American who viewed what was supposedly done at Ft. Stewart, if it is true, would never condone that kind of behavior. We are a nation of laws, or at least we used to be, and this kind of behavior, again, if true, has no place in the spectra of what is considered truly American. Unfortunately, when one political party or persuasion cherry picks an incident like this and ignores all of the myriad of events that have happened over the years by others of a different persuasion, the hypocrisy is just too much to ignore. We all have our skeletons which we hide in closets and are very hesitant to reveal. And the Tea Party had nothing to do with this charade. Why they are just a bunch of old white haired brown shirted Nazis with lawn chairs….. nome, sayin’?

lovelyliz

August 27th, 2012
1:47 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight! They aren’t nearly as extreme as you would think

getalife

August 27th, 2012
1:48 pm

dawg,

Tell us about these “meetings”.

That Black Guy

August 27th, 2012
1:49 pm

Madmax

August 27th, 2012
1:38 pm
For all of those who talk about right wing talk radio as being the problem: There is more “hate talk” from the left on this site than there is in a year’s worth of listening to all the right wing radio show hosts combined. It must be a very scary world to you.
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The “hate” comes from BOTH sides.

But BOTH sides blame the other because they agree with “hate” coming from *their* side.

Kinda like football. They never complain when a offensive tackle on *our* team holds a defensive player on *their* team because “Hey, it’s *us* doing it to *them*, so it’s ok.”

What they don’t get is BOTH teams are f**king up the game.

Matti

August 27th, 2012
1:51 pm

I’m getting scared.

getalife

August 27th, 2012
1:51 pm

The gop decided not to be united after a collapse and focus on getting our President.

The gop nominee does nothing but lie about our President and selects a radical rw con who believes fiction is reality as vp.

What did you expect to happen after all this radical rhetoric?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 27th, 2012
1:52 pm

liz, I disagree but I understand where you are coming from. The problem is that with the shift of the GOP to the extreme right to placate these extremists as the GOP shrinks, it appears that while they are far from mainstream America, the number of extremist views appear to be a louder and growing segment of the GOP party. Again, rather than claim birtherism is for the extreme nuts, their candidate embraces it and their party embraces the birther nuts….

b-troll

August 27th, 2012
1:52 pm

Ahh, Ludowici

The town gained notoriety during the 1950s and 1960s for its aggressive traffic enforcement policies. The AAA went so far as to specifically label Ludowici as a speed trap.[citation needed] Before interstate highways were constructed, all motorists traveled on regular U.S. highways. Ludowici was at the crossroads of three U.S. highways, Routes 25, 82 and 301.[5]

Members of the local police force were allegedly engaging in manipulation of the timing of the traffic signal downtown so as to catch unsuspecting out-of-area motorists ‘running’ a suddenly changed red light. The switch for the stop light was located in the barber shop. This activity subsequently came to an end when then-Governor Lester Maddox stated that the practices of the Ludowici police were giving the entire state a bad reputation.[citation needed] Word of mouth and media exposure caused many motorists to detour around Ludowici.[5] A 1970 TIME article said that Ludowici was “one of the last remaining speed traps in the country.”[4] The traffic light was at an intersection that was bypassed by a shortcut (Main Street – see a local map) so that local residents would not even come to the light when making the turn at the light. Thus, all the tickets went to nonresidents without the police having to be selective since no locals would be at the light.

Grasshopper

August 27th, 2012
1:52 pm

So what happens to these 4 soldiers if they are illegal immigrants trying to get papers by serving in the military?