Romney again endorses gov’t-backed health care for all
Earlier this month, the conservative base of the Republican Party went nuts, demanding the head of Romney spokesperson Andrea Saul. Why?
Because in discussing the fate of steelworkers laid off when Bain Capital closed their Missouri plant, Saul had had the audacity to note:
“To that point, you know, if people had been in Massachusetts under Governor Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care. There are a lot of people losing their jobs and their health care in President Obama’s economy.”
Rush Limbaugh erupted. Erick Erickson suggested that Saul’s statement might be the moment in which Romney lost the campaign and the trust of conservatives. “Consider the scab picked, the wound opened, and the distrust trickling out again,” he wrote.
And Ann Coulter went on the Hannity show to fume:
“Anyone who donates to Mitt Romney — and I mean the big donors — ought to call Mitt Romney and say if Andrea Saul isn’t fired and off the campaign tomorrow, they are not giving another dime. Because it is not worth fighting for this man if this is the kind of spokesman he has to respond to this by citing health care in Massachusetts.”
Saul was not fired, and over the weekend, Romney himself told Fox News:
“I’m the guy who was able to get all the health care for all the women and men for my state. They were talking about it at the federal level. We actually did something, and we did it without cutting Medicare and without raising taxes.”
For the record, Romney did it without a state tax hike thanks to hundreds of millions of dollars in additional federal Medicaid subsidies for Massachusetts. In fact, a year ago the Beacon Hill Institute, a Massachusetts think tank, estimated that since 2006, the “federal government has spent an additional $2.418 billion on Medicaid for Massachusetts,” and that overall, “The state has been able to shift the majority of the costs to the federal government.”
But the larger point is, what are conservatives are going to do now? Demand a new nominee, on the eve of the GOP convention? What’s Rush going to say, just hours before the coronation begins? My guess is that he will say nothing. They’ll attack the young female spokesperson, but not the candidate himself.
It also once again betrays the fundamental emptiness at the core of the Romney campaign for president. He has shown himself willing to read any script given to him, and to try unconvincingly to spout the principles of others as if they were his own. The ability to lead implies the ability to first be yourself, and I see no sign of that in the man.
He does not merely bend in the wind, he is a veritable dandelion seed, carried lightly hither and yon on the slightest bit of breeze, landing we know not where. The Republicans see that about him, and fear it, even if they dare not acknowledge it.
– Jay Bookman
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OBIWAN
August 27th, 2012
10:52 am
It makes me laugh at how much the leftist liberals have nothing good to say about ANYBODY. Why don’t you liberals tell us about all the good stuff Obozo has done? Oh wait…. It looks like a blank page….. BTW all this talk about Ryan not having any business experience, yet you idiots would vote for Obozo with his vast experience at nothing? Really makes you wonder, do liberals even believe what they say? Maybe they should look up the definition of a hypocrite….
Live from the RNC in Tampa. Where is George W. Bush?
August 27th, 2012
10:52 am
Camera rolling….no sign of Karl Rove!
the cat
August 27th, 2012
10:52 am
Canadians think we are all nuts.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 27th, 2012
10:54 am
S. Ray — “To be fair, the unions did indeed push all industries to promise pensions and lifetime benefits (government is glaring example)the employers could’nt remotely honor.”
To ACTUALLY be fair, you should recognize and admit that both unions AND management must approve any union contract or agreement.
To represent, as you have done, that unions make such decisions on their own is a misrepresentation at best and outright dishonesty at worst.
Jay
August 27th, 2012
10:55 am
As to unions, Stevie Ray, if they were the problem we’d still have a thriving (nonunion) textile industry here in Georgia, right?
Instead, it is almost nonexistent. All the mills have shuttered their doors and disappeared, taking the jobs with them.
And again, unions didn’t have a blessed thing to do with it.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 27th, 2012
10:55 am
OBIWAN — Why don’t you liberals tell us about all the good stuff Obozo has done? Oh wait…. It looks like a blank page….. ”
It gets posted here every day, along with links. Not our fault if you don’t ever bother to read it.
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
10:55 am
Did he really deport them, or did they just leave because all the jobs went away??
No, he did not deport them, nor did they just leave. ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) is the agency responsible for the deportations, and THEY deported them. Why don’t you use google for what it’s intended purpose is and find out yourself? Or do you need a talking head to tell you what to think?
ByteMe - Political thug
August 27th, 2012
10:55 am
Where’s your faith in the greatness of this country?
It’s only present during years when Republicans screw it up, not during years when Democrats screw it up.
Trolls Bane
August 27th, 2012
10:56 am
The Ryan Plan : To future retirees ( generation X, Y, etc) .. you are on your own …. $60,000 more for health care
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/24/739271/seniors-will-pay-60000-more-for-medicare-under-romneyryans-plan-report-finds/?mobile=nc
Mittens commenting on the purchase of a Chinese slave labor factory by Bain (outsourcing manufacturing to China):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e-0imhVH4E0
Are these really people we want to lead us? I can see why wall street loves em …
Live from the RNC in Tampa. Where is George W. Bush?
August 27th, 2012
10:56 am
Camera rolling…just spotted Ronald Reagan…my mistake…it’s just a mural!
stevie ray
August 27th, 2012
10:57 am
JAY.
Whether our country is great or not depends on the measure..your emotional response doesn’t improve the math. No, we are broke and can ill afford such a burden on taxpayers now and especially in the future..imagine the deficit and unfunded liabilities once the baby boomers blow thru these ponzi schemes…
This bill needs to be cleaned up and either phased in over longer period or turned into single payor….that won’t happen due to the piles of money big pharma, hospital operators and insurers rifle into political coffers..the biggest issue that keeps this bill unworkable is the tremendous shortage of supply of physican services….got 75 miles outside Atlanta and try to get an appointment with primary care doc..got 6 months to wait?
Soothsayer
August 27th, 2012
10:57 am
[T]he “federal government has spent an additional $2.418 billion on Medicaid for Massachusetts,” and that overall, “The state has been able to shift the majority of the costs to the federal government.”
Well, there’s $2.4 billion that won’t be spent on a war somewhere.
What’s Lush going to say? What’s Vannity going to say?
Frankly, my dear . . .
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
August 27th, 2012
10:58 am
“To be fair, the unions did indeed push all industries to promise pensions and lifetime benefits the employers could’nt remotely honor.”
emphasis mine
That implies that employers did not bargain in good faith.
Wouldn’t surprise me.
the cat
August 27th, 2012
10:58 am
It appears Donovan could not provide us with Romney’s plan for job creation. Someone else want to give it a try?
They BOTH suck
August 27th, 2012
11:00 am
Jay
And not to mention all those heavily unionized (NOT) customer service jobs, engineering and IT related jobs that have been shipped overseas.
King Dumbass the First
August 27th, 2012
11:01 am
Me and Law-ruh has decided (you remember I’m the decider, don’t you?) that we’re just gonna sit out the Republican National Convention.
They begged and pleaded with us to come over there and remind the world of the great accomplishments of my presidenting.
But, like I always say, Mission Accomplished!
Joe Hussein Mama
August 27th, 2012
11:02 am
T. Cat — ” Romney’s plan for job creation”
His what now?
stevie ray
August 27th, 2012
11:02 am
JAY,
If you are suggesting that UNIONS have nothing to do with the trends in the last 20-35 years of inability to compete globally? We will agree to disagree on this..in private industry..look at the government..you suggesting that we will ever be able to honor all those pension and lifetime medical commitments when they come due? Where is this flood of obligations gonna get funded? We can’t afford this either..
Jefferson
August 27th, 2012
11:03 am
Everytime I see a post where someone calls the President some name, 2 things happen – I smile, because he is getting to them and I smile because they are showing it. Keep it up, kids are what smiles are for.
the cat
August 27th, 2012
11:03 am
Donovan-told us Romney had the job creation plan!!! Waiting to see it.
Bill Orvis White
August 27th, 2012
11:03 am
The Saul woman should be fired. Yes, WE THE PEOPLE in the Tea Party KNOW that we will never forgive Gov. Romney for RomneyCare, but still, the Romney-Ryan ticket is a far better choice than what this current administration is doing to this once-free nation. Where’s the news about Bill Ayres, Rev. Wright, Father Pfleger, Fast and Furious, high taxe$, high regulation, expensive trips abroad, and all of the incompetence that we have been subjected to for almost four long years – which WILL become a blip in this once-free nation’s history.
Amen,
Bill
Jay
August 27th, 2012
11:03 am
And why are there no doctors 75 miles outside Atlanta, Stevie?
Could it be because so many of the residents there have no health insurance, and thus no ability to pay a doctor or hospital?
You’re not going to have decent medical care in those communities until there is a way to pay for it. Period.
DawgDad
August 27th, 2012
11:05 am
“the fundamental emptiness at the core of the Romney campaign for president. He has shown himself willing to read any script given to him, and to try unconvincingly to spout the principles of others as if they were his own. ”
Ah, the definition of a moderate. Although, Jay, you are overstating the case JUST A BIT. There is PLENTY of Romney record out there in the public and private arenas and in his personal life evidencing he is in no way an empty suit or person lacking core principles.
Doggone/GA
August 27th, 2012
11:05 am
“Did he really deport them, or did they just leave because all the jobs went away??”
Someone needs to learn the difference between “the number of illegal immigrants went down” and “DEPORTATIONS went up”
saywhat?
August 27th, 2012
11:06 am
Citizen of the World
August 27th, 2012
8:31 am
Has anyone noticed that Romney’s VP pick has no business experience? Romney is predicating his entire value proposition on his purported business acumen. Here he comes to save the day! Yet, he picks as his running mate someone who has worked for the government pretty much straight out of college. What will happen to us if Ryan has to assume the presidency for some reason??? OMG! We will be at the mercy of someone with no business experience! ‘Cause, you know, only someone with business experience can run the country!
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You forgot the oh-so-important “executive experience” that was all the rage 4 years ago, especially for a certain VP candidate. Apparently now that Obama has 4 years of it, it is no longer oh-so-important
Jay
August 27th, 2012
11:06 am
Yes, Stevie, we will honor those obligations because they are in fact obligations, and as one of the richest nations on the planet we have the means to honor those obligations.
The alternative is to deny retirement pay and medical coverage to millions of elderly Americans, just pushing them out into the cold without resources. Do you really think that’s going to happen in a nation as wealthy as this one?
TaxPayer
August 27th, 2012
11:07 am
I heard Romney’s plan for job creation is to create 12 million jobs during his first term. That amounts to adding 250,000 jobs per month for four years. I wonder if those will all be private sector U.S. jobs. Now, if only he could tell us how he plans to create all those jobs because even during the job growth boom during the Bush housing bubble, we only managed to eke out about 150,000 jobs per month in the private sector. I suspect Mitt must have some really powerful magic fairy dust or else he and Paul Ryan are just going to join forces and click their ruby red slippers together in unison.
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
11:08 am
the cat
http://www.mittromney.com/blogs/mitts-view/2011/09/believe-america-mitt-romneys-plan-jobs-and-economic-growth
There’s a pdf file with Mitt’s plan on that page.
straitroad
August 27th, 2012
11:08 am
Jay, I like to raz you guys a little from time to time but I have respected your general professionalism. I was surprised to see your condescending replies to a couple of poster’s who don’t agree with you.
CJ
August 27th, 2012
11:09 am
Stevie Ray: “we are broke”
1. No, we’re not. The fact that our government is able to borrow money at record low interest rates substantiates that we’re not broke.
2. Stevie Ray doesn’t care about deficits. If he did, then he’d be advocating that we go back to the Clinton tax rates and eliminate corporate subsidies. He’s not.
3. Stevie Ray doesn’t care about deficits. If he did, he be advocating against repealing ObamaCare, since such a repeal would add to it. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/health-care-repeal-widen-deficit-109-billion-says-194408630.html
4. Stevie Ray doesn’t care about deficits. If he did, then he would have been railing against Medicare Part D while Bush was President–a program that is adding hundreds of billions to the deficit (unlike ObamaCare, which the CBO says will reduce the deficit).
5. Stevie Ray doesn’t care about deficits. If he did, then he wouldn’t vote for Romney/Ryan, both of whom have presented proposals that increase the deficits. They’re austerity plans for the poor and middle class are intended to finance tax cuts for the wealthy…not to reduce deficits.
The “deficits don’t matter” party isn’t fooling anybody with their “fiscal cliff” BS.
Mitt Who Are You? I know that I am what I am. But I am not sure what I am.
August 27th, 2012
11:09 am
@Williebkind
August 27th, 2012
10:07 am
Mitt Who Are You? I know that I am what I am. But I am not sure what I am.
He has not been transparent as he declared he would be. Have you seen his college scores?
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HAS ANYONE SEEN MYTH ROBME’S TRANSCRIPT?
Nooooo.
But you want to see the BLACK MAN’S transcript.
TAKE YOUR DOG WHISTLES AND SHOVE THEM.
IF THERE WERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH HIS TRANSCRIPT
HARVARD, BEING A WHITE INSTITUTION WOULD HAVE EXPOSED
THEM BY NOW.
DUH!!!
OBVIOUSLY YOU DID NOT ATTEND COLLEGE IF YOU DID YOU
WOULD HAVE FIGURED THAT OUT BY NOW.
GENIUS
Fred ™
August 27th, 2012
11:10 am
stevie ray
August 27th, 2012
11:02 am
JAY,
If you are suggesting that UNIONS have nothing to do with the trends in the last 20-35 years of inability to compete globally? We will agree to disagree on this..in private industry..look at the government..you suggesting that we will ever be able to honor all those pension and lifetime medical commitments when they come due? Where is this flood of obligations gonna get funded? We can’t afford this either..
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How DO you get out of bed each morning with all those false boogeymen under your bed and hiding in your closet. I would think Rush and Neal would have scared you into a heart attack by now.
UNIONS? Really? Post some proof of these all powerful Unions you are so scared of lol. I want to see it. And I mean something other than Rush said so………
Jay
August 27th, 2012
11:10 am
DawgDad, I think that may be true in his personal life. He shows every sign of being very faithful to his spouse, his family and his faith, for instance. More power to him on every count.
He shows no such sign of stability and faithfulness in politics. From abortion to gun control to health care to Medicare, he has flipped 180 degrees as soon as a political advantage presents itself. He treats policy issues and matters of principle as mere stocks on the Dow Jones list, eager to buy low and sell high.
stevie ray
August 27th, 2012
11:12 am
JAY,
BTW, the increased (or return to prior depending on your political flavor) tax increases on the wealthy will only account for 16% of deficit..Where is the other 87% coming from? Remember the deficit is also growing geometrically so the 100% now will likely be the new 50% before long..Healthcare will simply provide jet fuel type propulsion for out ever increasing outflows…Imagine the taxes on our kids..
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 27th, 2012
11:12 am
To all you Babylon Five fans out there…who knew?
http://cheezburger.com/6538229760
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
11:12 am
If you are suggesting that UNIONS have nothing to do with the trends in the last 20-35 years of inability to compete globally?
Compare the trend you’re talking about with the trend in union power and membership numbers. You will notice that unions have been in decline for the same time period you’re talking about. Unions represent 12% of the current workforce, and that’s including public sector workers too. So, you’re probably looking at maybe 5% of the private sector workforce as unionized. And you’re gonna blame that small segment for the issues at hand today?
I’m not saying that unions are blameless, so don’t even try to put those words in my mouth. The thing is, it takes two to tango, and unions were not the only dancers at the negotiation tables.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 27th, 2012
11:12 am
…or was that Deep space Nine…
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 27th, 2012
11:13 am
In good news: Georgia State’s first ever football draft pick made the first cut with the Raiders today. Cool.
Mitt Who Are You? I know that I am what I am. But I am not sure what I am.
August 27th, 2012
11:13 am
@TaxPayer
August 27th, 2012
11:07 am
I suspect Mitt must have some really powerful magic fairy dust or else he and Paul Ryan are just going to join forces and click their ruby red slippers together in unison.
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I suspect Myth Robme must have some POWERFUL MAGIC UNDERWEAR.
heeheeheeheeheehee
I guess GOD ONLY GIVES THEM TO MORMONS.
Joseph
August 27th, 2012
11:13 am
But honesty should be a requirement to Jay….
Welcome to the Occupation
August 27th, 2012
11:14 am
DawgDad, I think that may be true in his personal life. He shows every sign of being very faithful to his spouse, his family and his faith, for instance. More power to him on every count.
No, NOT more power to him on every count. The man is a ruthless capitalist machine of profit extraction personified. He would sell your children into slavery and justify it to himself with that nervous laugh of his. He has no moral core and no moral quality whatsoever.
Jay
August 27th, 2012
11:14 am
Strait, I don’t believe I have been condescending to those who disagree with me. I welcome a difference of opinion.
I will, however, confess to being condescending to those who post absolute fabrications and try to pass them off as fact. On that I will plead guilty. I don’t have much patience with people who make up or try to spread false information, largely because false information makes honest debate impossible.
getalife
August 27th, 2012
11:14 am
Perhaps the first debate should be wiliie vs willie on his positions.
What a joke of a campaign.
Worst ever.
straitroad
August 27th, 2012
11:15 am
Jay, regarding your textile mill thread, I worked with a textile company based here in Georgia that was able to adapt and thrive and is stil in business today and doing well considering this economy. The closing of many mills in Georgia and elsewhere was directly related to their lack of innovation and continued reliance on commodity-type products. I’m not in total agreement with the blanket free trade folks but there is a responsibility on the part of the business owner to shift as the markets do.
stevie ray
August 27th, 2012
11:16 am
CJ,
The deficits do indeed matter..I would like to vote for someone with the courage to cut at least 10% from all programs excepting defense where I’d like to see 25%. We will need more than a tax increase on the weathly which I have no problem with the no country has ever gotten out of this sort of mess on the backs of the wealthy only…
In the future, don’t put words in my mouth..worry about your own blather..
Mick
August 27th, 2012
11:16 am
sink
Here’s a nice repub bumper sticker for their convention:
George W. Bush…miss me yet?
Right, yes right, not allowed to attend much less mention his “honorable” name….W, the gift that keeps giving…
Rick in Macon
August 27th, 2012
11:17 am
I’ve never seen such inane, idiotic chatter and lies as I have read by you liberal posters. Bookman is just as bad…all you people need to do is research before you make such dumb-a** statements. Your postings show just how ignorant many of you are.
ragnar danneskjold
August 27th, 2012
11:18 am
Strange essay, has nothing to do with the caption. As I read the comments of the prospective nominee, he was observing that the Federal government is paying the bills of local entities. That, of course, is not an endorsement of the activity. Wishful thinking by leftists, I suppose.
For the record, Governor Romney proposes repeal of ObamaCare, as does any rational soul.
Jay
August 27th, 2012
11:18 am
Stevie Ray, I’m on record repeatedly as supporting an eventual return to Clinton-era tax rates, and also making spending cuts on everything from defense to entitlements as necessary to bring us away from the fiscal cliff.
But I do not consider it an honest position to whine and wail about the deficit and then to propose additional tax cuts. Those who do that — and to be clear, I’m not making an accusation toward you — are playing a very different game, with very different goals.
Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel
August 27th, 2012
11:18 am
That said, I’m kinda looking forward to Joe Isuzu’s acceptance speech. I’m sure it will be filled with grandeur vagueness and such. I’m just hoping for a semblance of a coherent plan with specifics
Don’t hold your breath….
Joe Hussein Mama
August 27th, 2012
11:18 am
T. Cat — “Donovan-told us Romney had the job creation plan!!! Waiting to see it.”
Well, that explains it. I don’t bother reading Donovan’s posts.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 27th, 2012
11:18 am
If you are suggesting that UNIONS have nothing to do with the trends in the last 20-35 years of inability to compete globally? We will agree to disagree on this..in private industry..
In 2011, the union membership rate–the percent of wage and salary workers who
were members of a union–was 11.8 percent, essentially unchanged from 11.9
percent in 2010, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. The number
of wage and salary workers belonging to unions, at 14.8 million, also showed
little movement over the year. In 1983, the first year for which comparable union
data are available, the union membership rate was 20.1 percent and there were
17.7 million union workers.
[...]
Highlights from the 2011 data:
–Public-sector workers had a union membership rate (37.0 percent) more
than five times higher than that of private-sector workers (6.9
percent).
Union representation in this country has fallen dramatically since 1983.
You really should find another boogey-man to blame job outsourcing.
Welcome to the Occupation
August 27th, 2012
11:19 am
Mitt Romney has no more moral core as a person than the ruthless, predatory capitalism he personifies. And that little tilt of his head as he beams his fake “aw shucks” smile is the smile of a man who’s ready to send your children off to the salt mines to slave so he can be spared from having to alter his existence one iota in response to any call of justice or any other real moral quality. He is moral rottenness in human form.
CJ
August 27th, 2012
11:20 am
stevie ray: .Healthcare will simply provide jet fuel type propulsion for out ever increasing outflows…
If stevie ray is going to repeat this misinformation, then it’s incumbent upon us to repeat that it is false.
“Those figures do not include the budgetary impact of other provisions of the [Affordable Care Act], which in the aggregate reduce budget deficits.” http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43473
GT
August 27th, 2012
11:20 am
Reb you know what is laughable? The Republican Party recruiting black people for their speeches. You think the Democratic Party had to recruit Obama, O was a walkon who made it big,or make woman say unnatural things like hockey moms are *ithches with lipstick as if that gets your juices running instead of I feel you pain, we are going to give you some pain, we are pain, we invented it and you need to be woman enough to handle it. Now we know Romney’s first lady has felt the pain of raising five kids, and we know there are millions of working moms who wish that was their fate in life. But the black man calling himself a Republican, that could make a comedy series, like Tom Hanks managing an all woman’s baseball team, pure comedy, only this is real reality not the fake stuff.
Jay
August 27th, 2012
11:20 am
I note that Rick in Macon does not actually CITE any of these alleged lies, which spares him the trouble of actually having to produce evidence of such.
getalife
August 27th, 2012
11:20 am
rick,
cons pretending to be intelligent is one big hilarious joke.
Give it up.rick. They could promise to seize all your assets and you would vote for them.
That is called ignorant rick.
SWhite
August 27th, 2012
11:20 am
Why hasn’t the Obama administration caught on to the standard operating procedure of Romney-the-omni-politician who is all things to everybody in fact and in principle. Provide universal health insurance in Massachusetts by federalizing the costs; make companies profitable by canceling pension funds and federalizing the costs; manage the Olympics by federalizing the deficits; then in situations that require a 90-degree turn…women’s rights issues, Planned Parenthood funding, free choice, etc.–just say, well, now that I am a candidate for President of the fanatical right-wing, Tea Party segment of the GOP, funded by Koch money, I have changed my mind to get your vote. All the while, diverting attention from the real disparate wealth distribution that has gotten worse or not improved for nearly 30 years and hoping that he can channel more money into the pockets of millionaires and billionaires and cancel social programs for the most needy.
stevie ray
August 27th, 2012
11:21 am
JAY,
No offense but you comment that under any circumstances suggest that we have anything but a huge lack of primary care providers (and nurses) is nuts…They often have to treat 3000 insured patients in a county or zip code per insurer contracts, results in difficult care committment and they make zero money and this will get worse as time goes by..
Thats why many will no longer accept medicaid…you’d laugh as how much they get paid for services from this dry well…heck, nursing homes in most states only offer reimbursement less than 200$ per day..heck you can’t get a decent room for that much less get 3 meals, you arse wiped and the other needs…
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
11:21 am
But honesty should be a requirement to Jay….
So says the guy that can’t spell his name right after a fit of sock puppetry!!!
Morality?
August 27th, 2012
11:21 am
Obama doesn’t flip – he “evolves”. Just a sweet word for flipping my friend – based on what he thinks brings in more votes. Holds that finger up top see which way the wind blows and then Obama “evolves”. He’s a puppet of the far left socialist movement – Nanny Pelosi an Harry Weed.
Mitt Who Are You?........I know that I am what I am. But I am not sure what I am.
August 27th, 2012
11:22 am
@DawgDad
August 27th, 2012
11:05 am
There is PLENTY of Romney record out there in the public and private arenas and in his personal life evidencing he is in no way an empty suit or person lacking core principles.
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IF THERE are PLENTY of Myth Robme’s record out there……….
WHERE ARE THE TAX RETURNS?
Until he releases the tax returns I DON’T TRUST HIM AS
FAR AS I CAN THROUGH HIM.
WHAT IS HE HIDING?
SOMETHING SMELLS ROTTEN HERE.
IF ALL OF YOU PO FOLKS DON’T CARE…….
there is something wrong with your morals.
Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel
August 27th, 2012
11:22 am
Romney’s Plan For Job Creation For Dummies:
Drill Baby Drill!!!
Don't Tread
August 27th, 2012
11:23 am
“He does not merely bend in the wind, he is a veritable dandelion seed, carried lightly hither and yon on the slightest bit of breeze, landing we know not where…”
Well we know which way 0bama’s seed blows: left. As far left as Congress is willing to go along with, and then some.
wumpy fish
August 27th, 2012
11:24 am
Channeling our inner Lord Byron?
A mistress never is nor can be a friend. While you agree, you are lovers; and when it is over, anything but friends.
stevie ray
August 27th, 2012
11:24 am
KAMCHAK,
Don’t understand your logic above..heck the only group who is fighting harder for relevancy is the church…Of course they have been declining which I take as as sign that the model has outlived it’s usefulness..
tireofit
August 27th, 2012
11:24 am
I suggest we just refer to Mitt as Hollow Man from now on.
Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel
August 27th, 2012
11:25 am
Romney’s Plan for American Self Reliance From Energy Hawks:
Drill Baby Drill!!
Romney’s Plan For The Sinking Housing Market:
Drill Baby Drill!!
Romney’s Plan for Medicare & Medicaide:
Paul Ryan
getalife
August 27th, 2012
11:25 am
A question for all you “highly intelligent “cons.
When has romney spoke the truth?
Name one time.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 27th, 2012
11:25 am
Jay
August 27th, 2012
11:20 am
Well, what do yo expect? He’s Rick…and he’s from Macon…
Jefferson
August 27th, 2012
11:26 am
Romney hasn’t paid federal income taxes in 10 years.
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
11:26 am
Jay
Did you expect anything better from Rick in Macon??? As Fred would say, that’s a typical post from one of those asshats that listen to talk radio all day and let the radio do the thinking for him. If he was that upset about what was being posted here, he would have closed the window and not made the effort to put in information to post a comment.
Jay
August 27th, 2012
11:27 am
And yet they manage to pull that off that “impossible feat” in almost every industrialized country in the world, Stevie.
One explanation is that general practitioners make, on average, $161,000 a year in this country. The next highest country, the UK, pays on average $117,000.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 27th, 2012
11:27 am
Don’t understand your logic above..
Yes, I know.
Despite the fact that at least two other people said the same thing I did.
There are none so blind….
Peadawg
August 27th, 2012
11:28 am
“Stevie Ray, I’m on record repeatedly as supporting an eventual return to Clinton-era tax rates, and also making spending cuts on everything from defense to entitlements as necessary to bring us away from the fiscal cliff.”
You’re also on record whining about said proposed entitlement cuts. I’ll take it with a grain of salt.
Pizzaman
August 27th, 2012
11:28 am
Ah yes! Another day of the Teapublicans justifying service to the “high Roller’s” who bank roll them. What a country!
Mitt Who Are You?...........I know that I am what I am. But I am not sure what I am.
August 27th, 2012
11:30 am
@Rick in Macon
August 27th, 2012
11:17 am
I’ve never seen such inane, idiotic chatter and lies as I have read by you liberal posters. Bookman is just as bad…all you people need to do is research before you make such dumb-a** statements. Your postings show just how ignorant many of you are.
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Rick from Macon, be care of the stones you throw.
Everyone knows the history of Macon and its current racist
climate.
WHY DID THE MACON TELEGRAPH OUTSOURCE JOBS
TO INDIA?
DISCUSS THAT GENIUS.
CJ
August 27th, 2012
11:30 am
stevie ray: “don’t put words in my mouth..worry about your own blather..”
stevie ray,
My mistake. Your willingness to cut defense and raise taxes demonstrate some authentic concern on the topic. On the other hand, your false assertions that the Affordable Care Act will add to the deficits demonstrate the opposite.
If you truly care about the deficit, then you should get your facts straight about what reduces it and what increases it (repeal). In addition, you might observe that we balanced the budget in the nineties without spending cuts. Rather we balanced the budget with economic growth. So if you really care about deficits, then rather than following a European-style austerity plan (spending cuts causing higher unemployment causing lower revenues causing higher deficits), you should be advocating for programs specifically intended to put people back to work.
CJ
August 27th, 2012
11:30 am
stevie ray: “don’t put words in my mouth..worry about your own blather..”
stevie ray,
My mistake. You’re willingness to cut defense and raise taxes demonstrate some authentic concern on the topic. On the other hand, your false assertions that the Affordable Care Act will add to the deficits demonstrate the opposite.
If you truly care about the deficit, then you should get your facts straight about what reduces it and what increases it (repeal). In addition, you might observe that we balanced the budget in the nineties without spending cuts. Rather we balanced the budget with economic growth. So if you really care about deficits, then rather than following a European-style austerity plan (spending cuts causing higher unemployment causing lower revenues causing higher deficits), you should be advocating for programs specifically intended to put people back to work.
Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel
August 27th, 2012
11:30 am
The Republican Party recruiting black people for their speeches.
Every race has its sell outs. When the Jewish people were being shuffled into death camps, they had collaborators inside the camps trying to cut a deal and save their own skin.
It’s just a part of the human psyche that some are going to fight together and stand together, while others are only going to fight for themselves.
Mitt Who Are You?...........I know that I am what I am. But I am not sure what I am.
August 27th, 2012
11:30 am
@Rick in Macon
August 27th, 2012
11:17 am
I’ve never seen such inane, idiotic chatter and lies as I have read by you liberal posters. Bookman is just as bad…all you people need to do is research before you make such dumb-a** statements. Your postings show just how ignorant many of you are.
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Rick from Macon, be care of the stones you throw.
Everyone knows the history of Macon and its current racist
climate.
WHY DID THE MACON TELEGRAPH OUTSOURCE JOBS
TO INDIA?
DISCUSS THAT GENIUS.
stevie ray
August 27th, 2012
11:30 am
MORALITY,
Obama’s promises in 2008 (putting wall streeters in jail, putting telecoms in jail, eliminate the lobbyists control of DC agenda, cutting deficit in half) we all campaign handjive not unlike Romney’s 12 million new jobs claim….of course, Romney can take a tactic from Obama’s play book and simply blame it on OBAMA and what could likely be an obstructist DEM congress….nothing changes…
Also, it be nice to hear Obama suggest why we should re-elect him versus why not elect the other guy..this whole tax the wealthy (fair share garbage) as that is the reason why all those below are such victims is pure campaign BS and posited only to polarize and enter a new definition of “fair” to Websters…
Morality?
August 27th, 2012
11:31 am
Pizza Brain – and Obama doesn’t have any “high rollers” bankrolling him? Obama is bought and paid for. He’s a puppet for the far left socialist wackos. He’s never met a dollar that he would turn down.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 27th, 2012
11:34 am
Ah-HENH.
http://cheezburger.com/6514039552
getalife
August 27th, 2012
11:35 am
“You’re also on record whining about said proposed entitlement cuts. I’ll take it with a grain of salt.”
cons just can’t wait for congress to get their greedy corrupt hands on the American people’s money they paid for those insurance programs.
Pathetic pea.
Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel
August 27th, 2012
11:35 am
Romney hasn’t paid federal income taxes in 10 years.
Even if that’s true, he can always go back and “retroactively” submit them, (a la being CEO of Bain or NOT being CEO of Bain or FORGETTING that he was CEO of Bain, or NOT UNDERSTANDING what being CEO of Bain really means)
Its just like his campaign guy said – It’s the etch o sketch defense.
GT
August 27th, 2012
11:37 am
One of the world’s biggest misconceptions is Obama lends far left. Obama is actually very much in the middle, the GOP with lots of carry from the Tea Party have maxed the right wing out and then some. So the middle looks like left to the misinformed or manipulators of the truth. It is like living in the world of ugly people and making average look beautiful, or buying a Volkswagen to make your house look larger, it is a distortion a lot of us want to be the truth so bad the perception becomes the reality. Minority rule is hidden in all of this, just like it was from the 60s back. Our democracy is in open conflict with hijackers who think they and only they can save a world, they broke in the first place. They have done what marching armies have failed to do, without a gun being fired, they have sold our democracy to the highest bidder, and we the properly being sold don’t even know who bought us.
skydog
August 27th, 2012
11:38 am
One huge benefit of unions is their apprenticeship programs.
30 years ago the only way a southern youngster could learn to be a pipe fitter, electrician, or carpenter for Industrial construction was to work for one of the few big construction outfits in the south (Daniel or Brown and Root). They would get upfront training money from companies like P&G & Dupont for a big project.
That dried up 20 years ago, so there are not many avenues for a southern youngster to get into Industrial Construction.
Up north the unions are training youngsters like they have always done. I have worked all over the US and there is NO comparison between southern Industrial construction labor forces and northern Industrial labor forces. Give me 1 union trained union pipe fitter over 3 southern trained fitters.
If a southern youngster wants to get into Industrial Construction they have to move north.
Sad but, true.
stevie ray
August 27th, 2012
11:38 am
JAY,
You continue to amaze with your “insight” into the world of healthcare and insurer rate setting. That average is skewed by the vastly higher numbers of metropolitan physicians…….many exburban or rural docs struggle to make a 100K…Your comparison is flawed because (1)the European docs get all their medical insurance and they are taxes to the hilt…they don’t have much in way of malpractice costs (including cost of unneccesary test et al in addition to premiums and self insured claims)….realize doc’s run a practice where they basically take expenses out the pay themselves what’s left…
This compensation issue and material shortage issue are at the heart of this…but perhaps more of an issue is that most doc’s want to take care of people..the imbalance in the system makes this difficult and they are stepping out or medicaid or going to concierge medicine..
Joe Hussein Mama
August 27th, 2012
11:40 am
Looks like the GOP is trying to shore up the votes of all the Goldline-patronizing Glenn Beckerheads out there.
http://economywatch.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/27/13458439-gops-gold-standard-idea-comes-up-short?lite
stevie ray
August 27th, 2012
11:42 am
CJ,
I am a consulting actuary so I assure you I have no problem with math and it won’t hunt this crap legislation. Name me any insurance like product the government runs that doesn’t cost trillions more than any 10 year projection by CBO..
The result of this crappy missive will be the historic (except for Medicare and SS) imbalance of premium to losses….taxpayers will get screwed.
I suggest you get your nose into some of the SEC filings of the major health insurers and look under “Risks and Uncertainties” Rate will explode and they are already advising that even the projected rate increases they will be allowed won’t be enough..
TBone
August 27th, 2012
11:43 am
If the only thing you have is tear down Obama’s opponent cause you sure as hell can’t run on his utter lack of accomplishments, it has really gotten old. Find a new schtick, your socialist is toast come November.
CJ
August 27th, 2012
11:43 am
it be nice to hear Obama suggest why we should re-elect him
* Closed the prescription drug doughnut hole for seniors.
* Eliminated the risk for people with health insurance to run out of health insurance (and go bankrupt) by eliminating lifetime limits and caps.
* Prevents insurers from charging more or denying coverage for pre-existing conditions.
* No co-pays for check-ups and preventive care.
* Eliminated significant waste, fraud, abuse in Medicare…adding to its life while reducing deficits.
* Stopped the economy from losing 800,000 jobs per month, and saved or added millions of jobs.
* Brought the American auto industry back to life.
* Created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
* Appointed two good female justices to the Supreme Court
* Commander-in-chief responsible for finding and killing Osama bin Laden.
* Commander-in-chief responsible for decimating al Queda.
* Commander-in-chief responsible for the death of Moammar Gadhafi (by leading from behind).
Tip of the iceberg…
Morality?
August 27th, 2012
11:43 am
Stevie Ray – You are new on here? As you have probably noticed I am being censored/ moderated) for every comment I make because I don’t bow down and kiss Obama’s skinny butt. If he would give up them smokes he would gain a little weight but he wouldn’t be able to blow as much smoke up our ( you know where). As a President I think Obama would make an excellent ambulance chasing lawyer. He came in to office with NO experience and his on the job training has cost us billions down the rat hole. In the private sector he would have already been FIRED. NAIVE is not a quality I look for in someone that I want to be President. Obama is the true definition of naive when it comes to the economy.
Skip
August 27th, 2012
11:44 am
As one that lives about 75 miles from Atlanta let me inform you. I’m on Medicare and could see my Dr. tomorrow if need. If he was to be unavailable I have a back-up, no appointment needed.
SBinf
August 27th, 2012
11:44 am
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/asked-in-2008-if-would-bring-romneycare-national#HTWF2
2008 Romney has some serious splainin’ to do.
stevie ray
August 27th, 2012
11:45 am
CJ,
Also, I believe the president and congress have only a fraction of ability to create jobs that aren’t government…I thought I as mistaken to an extent relative to shovel ready jobs but once again, they let us down.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 27th, 2012
11:46 am
As you have probably noticed I am being censored/ moderated) for every comment I make because I don’t bow down and kiss Obama’s skinny butt.
RB from Gwinnett
August 27th, 2012
11:46 am
When is Obama going to take unscripted questions from the media or the public? What could he possibly be avoiding?? Why is there no media hysteria about it?
Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel
August 27th, 2012
11:47 am
Mitt Romney has no more moral core as a person than the ruthless, predatory capitalism he personifies.
That brings to mind something I read a while back:
USA, Inc.:
– Board of Directors – the 1%
– CEO – Whatever puppet we put in charge commonly called the “President of the USA”.
– CFO – Another puppet that has to have military defense companies in his back pocket in order to give out a couple of no bid contracts.
– Stockholders – China (since we owe them),Middle East, (Why else did we send thousands to die on their shores if they weren’t stockholders?)
Ukraine, Russia, and anyone else we can sell off pieces of America to.
– Workforce — China, India, Any poor 3rd world country in South America, Somalia, etc. As long as we can make a buck we don’t care.
– The American People – Patsies who foot the bill.