Romney again endorses gov’t-backed health care for all

Earlier this month, the conservative base of the Republican Party went nuts, demanding the head of Romney spokesperson Andrea Saul. Why?

Because in discussing the fate of steelworkers laid off when Bain Capital closed their Missouri plant, Saul had had the audacity to note:

“To that point, you know, if people had been in Massachusetts under Governor Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care. There are a lot of people losing their jobs and their health care in President Obama’s economy.”

Rush Limbaugh erupted. Erick Erickson suggested that Saul’s statement might be the moment in which Romney lost the campaign and the trust of conservatives. “Consider the scab picked, the wound opened, and the distrust trickling out again,” he wrote.

And Ann Coulter went on the Hannity show to fume:

“Anyone who donates to Mitt Romney — and I mean the big donors — ought to call Mitt Romney and say if Andrea Saul isn’t fired and off the campaign tomorrow, they are not giving another dime. Because it is not worth fighting for this man if this is the kind of spokesman he has to respond to this by citing health care in Massachusetts.”

Saul was not fired, and over the weekend, Romney himself told Fox News:

“I’m the guy who was able to get all the health care for all the women and men for my state. They were talking about it at the federal level. We actually did something, and we did it without cutting Medicare and without raising taxes.”

For the record, Romney did it without a state tax hike thanks to hundreds of millions of dollars in additional federal Medicaid subsidies for Massachusetts. In fact, a year ago the Beacon Hill Institute, a Massachusetts think tank, estimated that since 2006, the “federal government has spent an additional $2.418 billion on Medicaid for Massachusetts,” and that overall, “The state has been able to shift the majority of the costs to the federal government.”

But the larger point is, what are conservatives are going to do now? Demand a new nominee, on the eve of the GOP convention? What’s Rush going to say, just hours before the coronation begins? My guess is that he will say nothing. They’ll attack the young female spokesperson, but not the candidate himself.

dandelion

It also once again betrays the fundamental emptiness at the core of the Romney campaign for president. He has shown himself willing to read any script given to him, and to try unconvincingly to spout the principles of others as if they were his own. The ability to lead implies the ability to first be yourself, and I see no sign of that in the man.

He does not merely bend in the wind, he is a veritable dandelion seed, carried lightly hither and yon on the slightest bit of breeze, landing we know not where. The Republicans see that about him, and fear it, even if they dare not acknowledge it.

– Jay Bookman

383 comments Add your comment

Mick

August 27th, 2012
8:04 am

Yet, and amazingly so, this election will probably produce a razor thin victory…romney still has to close the deal and his constant whining about campaign tactics is a turnoff…

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 27th, 2012
8:04 am

Two of his largest achievements

Romneycare and The Olympics.

He didn’t build that, we did.

Oh, and he was a lousy Governor as well.

Thomas Heyward Jr

August 27th, 2012
8:09 am

“For the record, Romney did it without a state tax hike thanks to hundreds of millions of dollars in additional federal Medicaid subsidies for Massachusetts.”
.
Well..thank God no one had their taxes raised.
It was Bernanke Bucks.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

August 27th, 2012
8:10 am

I often wonder why Ol’ Mitt spent his money to buy all of the hard drives used in Massachusetts government computers…

Still what can you say about a guy, who can’t use his greatest achievement to run on because it’s against his party’s principles?

Brosephus™

August 27th, 2012
8:11 am

For the record, Romney did it without a state tax hike thanks to hundreds of millions of dollars in additional federal Medicaid subsidies for Massachusetts. In fact, a year ago the Beacon Hill Institute, a Massachusetts think tank, estimated that since 2006, the “federal government has spent an additional $2.418 billion on Medicaid for Massachusetts,” and that overall, “The state has been able to shift the majority of the costs to the federal government.”

In Romney’s defense, you can’t peg him with the dependence on Uncle Sugar since 2006. One can say he led the horse to the water, but he didn’t make the horse drink the entire lake.

That said, I’m kinda looking forward to Joe Isuzu’s acceptance speech. I’m sure it will be filled with grandeur vagueness and such. I’m just hoping for a semblance of a coherent plan with specifics.

Mick

August 27th, 2012
8:12 am

Couple of other observations; jeb bush was trotted out this weekend, he really started the regression of the florida budget with many tax cuts tilted toward the wealthy, same old republican game plan. The people eventually catch on and ask what happened to all our services? He wants obama to stop blaming his brother, sorry but we just can’t forget he was there for eight years leading to economic calamity. Obama’s policies have failed? Errr…how’s about the do nothing congress we have, all they say is no and then have the gaul to criticize the stimulus, and gladly cash the checks (paul ryan,) It’s amazing to me that repubs could garner any middle class votes but the plain truth is once again their skill at messaging will make it close when it should be nowhere near it…

Madmax

August 27th, 2012
8:12 am

$15,987,849,253,741 and rising
23,102,664 unemployed and rising

What has Obama done about it lately – of nothing because he is busy campaigning as he has for the last year.

But Jay wants to point out Mitt’s warts while Obama goes around naked. Sort of reminds me of the the Emporer has no clothes and only the kid would speak the truth. And Jay, if the Fed’s are dumb enough to pay for Mass. health care and we write the rules so that they can, then isn’t the issue in Washington that created the rules?

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

August 27th, 2012
8:12 am

BTW Granny G…

Your 0751 from below burned a bigger hole in my retina than did my 0619…thanks for that… :)

Simple Truths

August 27th, 2012
8:12 am

Jay, yet you still voted for Romney for president.

the cat

August 27th, 2012
8:13 am

What is the over/under on a brokered convention?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 27th, 2012
8:14 am

Normal

It’s the pink thong…..does it everytime.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

August 27th, 2012
8:14 am

Madmax

August 27th, 2012
8:12 am

Tell me exactly what President Obama could have done and please be precise.

Madmax

August 27th, 2012
8:16 am

Normal – That’s Obama’s job…….and he hasn’t done nuch for the past 9 months but campaign and tell everyone he feels their pain

Joseph

August 27th, 2012
8:18 am

Wow Jay that’s a serious stretch to say since a spokesperson says it means that what the candidate believes. So I guess that means Obama thinks Romney is a felon and that he’s responsible for a woman’s death… You loons are a riot….

Compromise

August 27th, 2012
8:19 am

“What has Obama done about it lately – of nothing because he is busy campaigning as he has for the last year.”
Good point, Madmax. Obama could lock this thing down right now if he’d demonstrate that he is trying at least to broker a deal on the “fiscal financial cliff”. It would go to his (perceived or not?) weak point and he’d get my vote.

Citizen of the World

August 27th, 2012
8:19 am

Romney seems to not only lack the courage of his convictions, he has no convictions. It makes him seem like a buffoon. Like an empty suit. All hat and no cowboy. Disingenuous right down to every last Grecian Formula hair on his head.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 27th, 2012
8:21 am

Pardon me Jseph,

Did ya’ miss this?

“Romney himself told Fox News”

“Romney himself”

Madmax

August 27th, 2012
8:21 am

Compromise – I agree with you – but he’s ignored the elephant in the room for 3+ years so I’m not hopeful that he will.

Jay

August 27th, 2012
8:21 am

Joseph, reading comprehension is a minimal requirement for participating intelligently on this board.

OBIWAN

August 27th, 2012
8:23 am

MadMax,
Don’t confuse the liberals with logic or common sense……least of all facts….

the cat

August 27th, 2012
8:23 am

Bob Loblaw

August 27th, 2012
8:25 am

@ Citizen:

You nailed it.

Additionally, the last poll I saw when I dug into the crosstabs still has Obama with a better favorable rating on Healthcare issues than Romney. If Obamacare is the albatross that the GOP thinks it is, then why do more Americans trust Obama on Health policy?

The answer, from this very experienced pollster, was that there were some things that people liked about Obamacare, like keeping “kids” on the plans ’til age 26 and that folks with pre-existing conditions can actually find coverage.

Romney should embrace those things, stop talking about Obamacare and stop listening to fly-by-nights like Erick Erikson. Talk about someone who hasn’t done anything in life but sit behind a laptop and whine.

Mick

August 27th, 2012
8:25 am

It seems that the repubs want to make the president a jobs creator in chief, where is that in the constitution? Do people really believe that if romney is elected the jobs will come roaring back? Please, there is no plan only empty rhetoric by a prime example of a rich guy who was more of a job destroyer at bain than a job creator. Of course, he made his pile, isn’t that the whole goal of the capitalist? The 8.3 unemployed? Like he really gives a damn…

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 27th, 2012
8:27 am

Compromise

You mean the Republicans were “just kiddin” when they supported the sequestration?

If they want off the hook for the mess they created they should try asking nice, some begging to be forgiven for their foolishness wuld be nice too.

lynnie gal

August 27th, 2012
8:28 am

Maybe Romney has a split personality. He takes credit for Massachusetts healthcare and later in the day he denounces it. He claims to be pro-choice then he claims to be pro-life. He’s an empty suit, thinking that taking off his tie and rolling up his sleeves to mimic a “common man” will help him politically. He’s a glossy white mannequin with plastic Ken doll hair and his handlers reprogram his message with the flip of a switch if polls show he’s being damaged; then if that doesn’t work, they flip a switch and he goes back. While he’s being erased like an etch a sketch, Paul Ryan’s eyes are darting around the room sizing up his chances of being cast as the male version of Marie Antoinette.

Peacenik2012

August 27th, 2012
8:29 am

Bless Mitt Romney and his three gods.

MORMONS ARE NOT CHRISTIANS (Just Ask Your Pastor or Priest)

The Book of Mormon

1. Book of Mormon
The book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible, (History of the Church, vol. 4, p. 461.)

2. Devil, the
Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and we were all born as siblings in heaven to them both, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163.)

3. God
God used to be a man on another planet (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).

4. God, becoming a god
After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354).

5. God, many gods
There are many gods (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).

6. God, mother goddess
There is a mother god (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443).

7. Heaven
There are three levels of heaven: telestial, terrestrial, and celestial (Mormon Doctrine, p. 348).

8. Holy Ghost, the
The Holy Ghost is a male personage (A Marvelous Work and a Wonder, Le Grand Richards, Salt Lake City, 1956, p. 118; Journal of Discources, vol. 5, p. 179).

9. Jesus
“The birth of the Savior was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115).

10. Joseph Smith
If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation.  There is no salvation outside the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon Doctrine, p. 670).

tbone

August 27th, 2012
8:29 am

What in the tar nation are y’all bickering about! Stick to tha gal dern issues y’all! Abortin’ young’uns and men marryin’ men are what is destroyin’ our country. Healthcare ain’t none of my bisness. That talk is for the rich folk.

Citizen of the World

August 27th, 2012
8:31 am

Has anyone noticed that Romney’s VP pick has no business experience? Romney is predicating his entire value proposition on his purported business acumen. Here he comes to save the day! Yet, he picks as his running mate someone who has worked for the government pretty much straight out of college. What will happen to us if Ryan has to assume the presidency for some reason??? OMG! We will be at the mercy of someone with no business experience! ‘Cause, you know, only someone with business experience can run the country!

gtt

August 27th, 2012
8:32 am

not not where?

Whatever

August 27th, 2012
8:33 am

I’m not against the government assisting with healthcare. However, we are broke, broke, broke. We have got to get spending under control.

This makes me feel no better. The Mass. bill cost the Feds $2.4 billion more in addition to the state costs!? Where’s all this money coming from?

We need to vote out every one who will not get serious about our budget. Both sides are a joke.

Bob Loblaw

August 27th, 2012
8:34 am

@lynnie gal:

Want to see the split personality? Look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey–4MjXRxc

Welcome to the Occupation

August 27th, 2012
8:36 am

This election is, acc. to Jonathan Chait and others, one final go-for-broke attempt by the GOP to run the tables before their ticking demographic time bomb goes off.

Chait: ““This is the last time anyone will try to do this” – “this” being a near total reliance on white votes to win a presidential election.

It’s one of the most cynical, diabolical appeals to identity politics we’ve seen in American politics. Romney will try to present himself as the candidate who will return to 55 years olds and up their “stolen” tax subsidies taken through Obamacare in a thoroughly cynical ploy to divide demographic groups against others, all the while as his side whines that Obama wants to “divide” Americans against each other.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 27th, 2012
8:36 am

Peacenik2012

August 27th, 2012
8:29 am

Mormans, Baptists, Catholics…..

In my opinion, some of each are Christians.

Recon 0311 2533

August 27th, 2012
8:37 am

Jay’s running out of ammo and it’s still over two months until the election. Of course the Obama campaign has run out of ammunition as well. The cry of desperation from a stalled campaign that has failed to gain traction. I think it’s getting close to the time for me to make a call.

larry

August 27th, 2012
8:38 am

I bet you didnt know there is three people running for president……….

Mitt Romney from 1994-2006,
Mitt Romney from 2007-president
and the President.

I’ve already caught Mitt lying about Mitt already, problem is , i cant figure out which one.

Jay

August 27th, 2012
8:39 am

Oh please do, Recon.

Please. Do.

:>)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 27th, 2012
8:39 am

The ability to lead implies the ability to first be yourself, and I see no sign of that in the man

A weathervane pointing in the direction of where the wind blows that particular minute does not make a leader.

Holy Moly!

August 27th, 2012
8:40 am

I am curious Jay, has anyone done a study linking tax decreases in our history to job creation? That seems to be where the republicans feel Obama is most vunerable, I think they will downplay the health care issue because it is not one that will help them.

TaxPayer

August 27th, 2012
8:41 am

I think it’s getting close to the time for me to make a call.

A little early for pizza.

Fly-On-The-Wall

August 27th, 2012
8:41 am

The Republican voter will turn aside, puke, and then vote for Romney anyway because of the absolute hatred for President Obama. They take very literally what one of the true leaders of the party said – Grover, and I’m paraphrasing – we only need someone with enough digits to sign all the laws the Republicans present to that person. In other words they only need a warm body.

Mitt could have been someone who committed a capital crime and they’d still vote him in just because of that hatred of the current freely elected president.

Williebkind

August 27th, 2012
8:41 am

“What will happen to us if Ryan has to assume the presidency for some reason???”

He be just like Obama!

Compromise

August 27th, 2012
8:41 am

“If they want off the hook for the mess they created they should try asking nice, some begging to be forgiven for their foolishness wuld be nice too.”
That’s great, Granny.

Mick

August 27th, 2012
8:42 am

recon

Interesting observation…I think romney has been shooting with a whole clip of blanks, the target is still smiling back at him…

larry

August 27th, 2012
8:42 am

Has anyone noticed that Romney’s VP pick has no business experience?

That doesnt worry me about Ryan. What worries me is he is a faithful follower of Ayn Rand.
And that the basis for the bills he sponsors are faithful to that following.
That scares me.

Madmax

August 27th, 2012
8:42 am

Citizen – Uh and you prefer Biden?.

Recon 0311 2533

August 27th, 2012
8:42 am

Jay, patience, patience the time will come soon.

Reagans ghost

August 27th, 2012
8:42 am

God send for the main stream press this week. They will get to spend about 80% on the weather and the hurricane, thus avoiding main stream America with another view. Must be living right.

Steve

August 27th, 2012
8:43 am

I have to agree that it’s time to educamate the masses that the President doesn’t CREATE jobs. This is the job of Congress, who, led by a TeaParty Congress, is thwarting our current President and failing miserably.

And I still don’t understand why John Kerry was demonized as a “flip flopper” yet Romney is beyond that – he’s a split personality.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 27th, 2012
8:43 am

Recon

Who ya’ call?

Venkman, Stantz and Spengler?

Reagans ghost

August 27th, 2012
8:44 am

New word this week from the GOP. A Bindenism………….A new phrase for a politician ” stepping in it”.

JamVet

August 27th, 2012
8:44 am

Flip……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….flop.

As JB noted, this spineless, unprincipled, tax dodging billionaire of a farce (my word) is unfit to lead this glorious nation.

Joel Edge

August 27th, 2012
8:46 am

So where does it say “Romney endorses govt backed health care for all” again.

Citizen of the World

August 27th, 2012
8:46 am

Thanks for sharing Bob @ 8:34. I had not seen that. Add split personality to no personality ….

Reagans ghost

August 27th, 2012
8:46 am

Jamvet……Yea, the commie doing a pretty good job uh?

hiram

August 27th, 2012
8:48 am

Peadawg

August 27th, 2012
8:49 am

“Recon

Who ya’ call?”

Ghostbusters!!!!!

Reagans ghost

August 27th, 2012
8:49 am

Went to see 2016. Romney ought to walk out Thursday and say, I’m running for President against this current president. Here is why I’m running…and play the film…….Powerful, and not really a bash Obama film, just pretty much a factual resume of the guys life.

JamVet

August 27th, 2012
8:49 am

Meat, McCarthyism was really stupid and immoral even back in the 50s.

Today?

It is the purview of uneducated buffoons who have the vocabulary of a struggling 11 year old…

[...] Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) [...]

Williebkind

August 27th, 2012
8:52 am

Recon 0311 2533

August 27th, 2012Can CNN overcome slump, remake itself?

8:37 am
You know the call has been made. As CNN goes so does AJC.

CNN adds Morgan Spurlock series
Time Warner CEO vows to fix ratings

I assume they will keep Jay around until after the election. I stopped watching CNN! It has become vile and disgusting. Why dont the liberals keep it going? Is that not strange with all the big numbers the liberals keep posting there is not enough to keep the ratings up? It looks like paying bloggers to spew their socialist/communist ideology is not profitable. That is a magnanimous reason for them to want more government and more control of government.

Peadawg

August 27th, 2012
8:53 am

“So where does it say “Romney endorses govt backed health care for all” again.”

Yeah I missed that too.

Welcome to the Occupation

August 27th, 2012
8:53 am

Recon “Jay’s running out of ammo”

Ha, that’s a good one. Pot calling kettle black.

Sure it’s not you who’s running out of material Recon, candidate-less as you are?

Citizen of the World

August 27th, 2012
8:55 am

Larry, no, maybe you missed my point. I am not “worried” that Ryan lacks business experience at all, and I am also appalled that he’s an Ayn Rand devotee — scary!

I was simply pointing out the irony that even though Mitt claims business experience is so vital — didn’t he even suggest at one point that that should be a condition of fitness for the office? — he picks a running mate with no business experience. That’s ironic, and it would appear, not very wise.

Williebkind

August 27th, 2012
8:55 am

“As JB noted, this spineless, unprincipled, tax dodging billionaire of a farce (my word) is unfit to lead this glorious nation.”

By defending Obama you have no clue either, narcissist!

Welcome to the Occupation

August 27th, 2012
8:55 am

Williebkind: “It looks like paying bloggers to spew their socialist/communist ideology is not profitable”

HAAAA hahahahah.

Got a really nice chuckle out of that one, have to say.

Tell me where — oh where — it is that you can spew “Communist” ideas at a mainstream establishment outfit like CNN. Pleez tell me, I want to know! :)

Fly-On-The-Wall

August 27th, 2012
8:56 am

Why is the right puts out these weird movies about Obama or anyone else they ‘dislike’ and we’re suppose to take that as factual? 2016 – garbage.

td

August 27th, 2012
8:56 am

Romney has said over and over again that he will REPEAL Obamacare. That ends this whole discussion. Next article Jay.

Mick

August 27th, 2012
8:57 am

ghost

We know the resume of the past three years and try as you might, this economic mess did not begin on 1/09. Funny how all the repubs do is talk about failure and demand that he “fix it” pronto. This economy is complex and what happened to it in 08 will reverberate for many more years to come. The congress of the past two years has been a joke, where are the jobs mr. boehner? What did they run on in 2010 anyway? Yes, we are all part of the same hypocrisy, on which side is it the most transparent???

td

August 27th, 2012
8:58 am

Fly-On-The-Wall

August 27th, 2012
8:56 am

Why is the right puts out these weird movies about Obama or anyone else they ‘dislike’ and we’re suppose to take that as factual? 2016 – garbage.

Did you go and see the movie this weekend or are you getting your information from Media Matters?

Chris Sanchez

August 27th, 2012
8:58 am

Jay: there is a reason so many of the other GOP candidates in the primaries rose and later fell as we conservatives sought a candidate. Liberal commentators called it when they said “anyone bit Mitt” was out thinking. Still, this is the candidate we are about to nominate and his presidency will be far better for our nation than the last 3 1/2 years of the Obama administration.

Jay

August 27th, 2012
8:58 am

You missed it?

Let me repeat it then:

Mitt Romney:

“I’m the guy who was able to get all the health care for all the women and men for my state. They were talking about it at the federal level. We actually did something, and we did it without cutting Medicare and without raising taxes.”

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 27th, 2012
8:58 am

td

he also said he paid at 13% taxes…..and has nothing to hide…

next poster td

St Simons - he-ne-ha

August 27th, 2012
8:58 am

all this poof, an attempt to mask what is becoming more & more obvious
The ACA is Progress, and not hated by the People, as the
bazillions of wingnut propaganda dollars would have you believe.
Hatin on healthcare reform is not a winning issue anymore.
D = go forward
R = go backward
just like a car

barking frog

August 27th, 2012
9:00 am

Romney may make a good
President but probably not
in 2012. ‘Etch a sketch tax
cheat’ is killing him.

Moderate Line

August 27th, 2012
9:01 am

It also once again betrays the fundamental emptiness at the core of the Romney campaign for president. He has shown himself willing to read any script given to him, and to try unconvincingly to spout the principles of others as if they were his own. The ability to lead implies the ability to first be yourself, and I see no sign of that in the man.
+++++
The self rightenous is interesting considering all the flops Obama conducted by Obama.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/full-flop/?page=1

Peadawg

August 27th, 2012
9:02 am

Jay
August 27th, 2012
8:58 am

Ah…evidently I did miss that lol. So he flip flopped again just in time for the convention. Got it.

JamVet

August 27th, 2012
9:03 am

…their socialist/communist ideology…

Meat, see? I was not kidding about how demented the GOP’s fringe elements/modern age McCarthyites are.

They are simply incapable of learning from history. So, in lieu of intellect, they incessantly use the one tool they know how to use – deflect/make up childish lies like “By defending Obama”. Even though I have told the liar repeatedly that I voted against BHO and will do so again in November.

But the truth matters not to these uneducated Republibots.

Most of whom appear to be high school dropouts.

GOP First! America Second!

THAT is Romney’s base in Georgia…

Sagegirl

August 27th, 2012
9:04 am

“He’s a glossy white mannequin with plastic Ken doll hair and his handlers reprogram his message with the flip of a switch if polls show he’s being damaged’

Exactly. He’s just for show. And if he’s elected “his handlers” will be the President. Not him.

the cat

August 27th, 2012
9:05 am

As an aside,Mary Matalin needs to retire. I think the botox has invaded her brain.

AU Liberal in ATL

August 27th, 2012
9:06 am

For the record, Mad as a betsy bug Max, the President has bent over backwards to try to accomodate, include, and work with the republicans in Congress. He’s done everything humanly possible to work with those boneheads and all they will do is obstruct. They made it clear from the beginning that they would block any potential success for President Obama. There’s not a man alive who could overcome that crap. If he’s guilty of anything, it’s thinking that republicans are reasonable and have a genuine love of country. Their agenda is painfully clear and it’s pure politics.
And another thing, hell yes I’d prefer Biden over Ryan… anyday.
Vote for Romney and you might as well vote to return Dubya to office.

Get Real, Free to choose but not your school

August 27th, 2012
9:07 am

zeke

August 27th, 2012
9:07 am

thought mitt was an analytical person; you’d think he would understand how he was able to pull healthcare off in mass. with all the federal bucks.

the press must be a bunch of numnuts who are scared to challenge the with mittster with facts….of course their fat cat bosses probably told them to go easy on mittens as deep down it seems all the high priced media are not looking forward to a tax hike. wouldn’t put it pass big media from even trying subliminal messaging.

hiram

August 27th, 2012
9:07 am

@sagegirl
Ryan is to Romney what Cheney was to Bush.

Here we go!

August 27th, 2012
9:08 am

td -how is Romney going to repeal ACA if he is facing a democratic senate? Romney can’t go into office and wave a wand that says ” these laws are no longer valid so they are repealed”. There is a process. And besides, most republicans won’t admit it, but they like a lot of what the plan has in it too.

Moderate Line

August 27th, 2012
9:09 am

Jay

August 27th, 2012
8:58 am
You missed it?

Let me repeat it then:

Mitt Romney:

“I’m the guy who was able to get all the health care for all the women and men for my state. They were talking about it at the federal level. We actually did something, and we did it without cutting Medicare and without raising taxes.”
+++
Obama replied that his plan was universal (a claim we rated Barely True ) and explained why he was against a mandate: “A mandate means that in some fashion, everybody will be forced to buy health insurance. … But I believe the problem is not that folks are trying to avoid getting health care. The problem is they can’t afford it. And that’s why my plan emphasizes lowering costs.”

“Hillary Clinton’s attacking, but what’s she not telling you about her health care plan? It forces everyone to buy insurance, even if you can’t afford it, and you pay a penalty if you don’t,” said one of his television ads .

What is interesting is up until 2008 Obama was against mandates along with Republicans. Up until 2012 he was against gay marriage just like Republicans. Now, if you disagree with him you are an extremist even though Obama was against these until recently.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/20/barack-obama/obama-flip-flops-requiring-people-buy-health-care/

Get Real, Free to choose but not your school

August 27th, 2012
9:10 am

weetamoe

August 27th, 2012
9:11 am

Once again, Mr Bookman is reading entrails to divine what republicans know think and fear. Protect your chickens and bulls.

JamVet

August 27th, 2012
9:12 am

BTW, you clearly don’t even know what the word narcissist means, willie.

Stick to simple words that you have a clue as to how and when to use them.

OK, business has really taken off lately, so off I go into the wild blue yonder to pay to keep the plutocrats comfy.

Toodles, all….

F. Sinkwich

August 27th, 2012
9:12 am

“This economy is complex and what happened to it in 08 will reverberate for many more years to come.”

Too wordy for a bumper sticker . Let me help:

Things may suck today.
And they will suck tomorrow.
Obama Biden 2012

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 27th, 2012
9:13 am

Get Real, Free to choose but not your school

August 27th, 2012
9:07 am

Get real….where else would you play a “green” public service spot?
More bang for the buck you big silly!

Get real…please get real.

You can lead a republican to water but you can’t make them drink….
(skinning dipping is something else altogether)

Shine

August 27th, 2012
9:14 am

The only thing Mitt Romney has been consistant on is tax cuts for himself.

kayaker 71

August 27th, 2012
9:15 am

ABC poll this morning…….. Who is better equipped to handle the economy? Bozo 43%, Romney 50%.

mm

August 27th, 2012
9:15 am

I guees God hates the GOP. Second straight convention hit by a hurricane.

TaxPayer

August 27th, 2012
9:16 am

Mitt Romney. The wannabe Liar-In-Chief. A corporate raider and tax cheat. One willing and able to take blood money and put it to work to make himself money. Mitt Romney, the Destroyer and Outsourcer of Jobs, wants people to just trust him and not look into or even question his shady background. He would have you people accept him at his word. Just pick the words that you like. After all, he’s covered all the bases. Mitt Romney, the man of a thousand faces. And he can even display them all at once. P.T. Barnum, eat your heart out.

Moderate Line

August 27th, 2012
9:18 am

larry

August 27th, 2012
8:38 am
I bet you didnt know there is three people running for president……….

Mitt Romney from 1994-2006,
Mitt Romney from 2007-president
and the President.

I’ve already caught Mitt lying about Mitt already, problem is , i cant figure out which one.
+++++
Congratulations you caught a politician lying.
According to poltifact
Obama has 112 Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire Statements
Romney has 67.
I do not think the number is a reflection of who is a bigger liar but the numbers do suggest that both lie considerably. To attack one or defend one but not the other is interesting.

independent thinker

August 27th, 2012
9:19 am

First mistake Andrea Saul made is referring to Willard as former governor of Mass. That has become a taboo experience for discussion. .Let’s also not forget that Mass. has borrowed 8.5 billion in excess Medicaid from all of us to achieve universal care.Obamacare covers it. But the two Wanabees want to cut it. You won’t hear about that either from these jokers.

Credible information to believe the GOP is about to elect a serious tax dodger and of course a draft dodger who cannot mention one person in his entire extended family that served in the military. I guess Ryan’s love, Ayn Rand would be proud

Glad the hurricane and Todd Aiken have disrupted the GOP’s little party for second convention in a row. Heard they p[icked the hurricane state to pick up Florida swing votes. With the GOP’s voter suppression in full swing down there the numbskulls didn’t need to bother.

Moderate Line

August 27th, 2012
9:22 am

TaxPayer

August 27th, 2012
9:16 am
make himself money. Mitt Romney, the Destroyer and Outsourcer of Jobs,
+++++

http://factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-outsourcer-overreach/

Peadawg

August 27th, 2012
9:22 am

Moderate Line
August 27th, 2012
9:18 am

Amen!

Live from the RNC in Tampa. Where is George W. Bush?

August 27th, 2012
9:23 am

Rush Limbaugh erupted. Erick Erickson suggested that Saul’s statement might be the moment in which Romney lost the campaign and the trust of conservatives.
___________

Is this one of the reasons that Mitt did not invite a lot of the Republican Superstars to speak at the RNC in Tampa?

td

August 27th, 2012
9:26 am

Here we go!

August 27th, 2012
9:08 am

td -how is Romney going to repeal ACA if he is facing a democratic senate? Romney can’t go into office and wave a wand that says ” these laws are no longer valid so they are repealed”. There is a process. And besides, most republicans won’t admit it, but they like a lot of what the plan has in it too.

Obama has set the example with not enforcing DOMA and not enforcing immigration laws. All he has to do is call his Health and human service Secretary and tell them to not set up the exchanges and not expand Medicaid.