I admit, I’m surprised: Romney campaign stirs the racial pot
I wish I didn’t have to write this, but apparently I do:
In his ambition to become president, Mitt Romney is trotting out the race card, calling upon and reinforcing old resentments and racial stereotypes to generate votes and support.
I had resisted that notion for months, despite evidence otherwise. I had given Romney a lot more credit than that, both as a person of decent instincts and as a leader. I honestly did not think that he would stoop to the likes of a Newt Gingrich, for example, with his description of Obama as “the food-stamp president” pursuing “Kenyan” values.
In addition, I think conservatives often have a valid point about the “race card” being played too quickly, based on too little evidence. I consider it a serious accusation that should only be made reluctantly, and only with sufficient proof to make it stick.
Unfortunately, the accumulating evidence against Romney has grown too powerful to deny.
Some of you perhaps came to this conclusion a while ago. Some of you no doubt reject it altogether and will continue to do so vehemently. That’s fine, because I’m only speaking for myself. And personally, the straw that broke the camel’s back came in a new interview with USA Today in which Romney charged that Obama was gutting the work requirement in welfare law in order to “shore up his base.”
Because as everyone knows, Obama’s true base can be found among those shiftless Americans too lazy to work and eager to collect welfare bucks for doing nothing, right Mitt? (And if you doubt the power of that narrative among an alarmingly large number of Americans, come back in an hour and read the comments that are sure to follow this post).
In hindsight, the claim that Obama was trying to gut the work requirement — and the prominent play that the Romney camp has given the claim — should have been enough to confirm his shameful intentions. In one ad, for example, Romney claims that “Under Obama’s plan, you wouldn’t have to work and you wouldn’t have to train for a job. They just send you your welfare check.”
Every independent observer to study the claim has confirmed that it is false. Not just slightly false, totally false. Politifact calls it a pants-on-fire lie. The Washington Post gives it Four Pinocchios. FactCheck.org also concluded the charge is false.
The reality is that several state governments, including Republican administrations in Utah and Nevada, sought flexibility in how to administer the law. That’s a conservative idea, right? Give states flexibility in figuring out how best to do things? When Obama took office, just 29 percent of welfare recipients were actually working or taking job training, so the idea of trying something new seemed attractive.
As Gary Herbert, the Republican governor of Utah, wrote in a letter last month defending the waiver request, “Some of these participation requirements are difficult and costly to verify, while other participation requirements do not lead to meaningful employment outcomes and are overly prescriptive.” Utah has no intention whatsoever of weakening work requirements, Herbert wrote.
But when the administration acceded to such requests, it was immediately accused of wanting to give taxpayer money away to welfare bums.
But again, the falsity of the charge is not what gives it away. What gives it away is the Romney campaign’s insistence on taking a very minor bureaucratic change and trying to elevate it into a major issue in the campaign. There is only one possible explanation for pushing the welfare claim so hard, and for hinting that the change is being implemented to “shore up (Obama’s) base.”
And that is an appeal to racism.
– Jay Bookman
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Soothsayer
August 27th, 2012
9:19 pm
hmmmm . . . let’s 240 posts over at Kyle’s blog in coming up on 11 hours. Now my math’s not too good and not any better at cypherin’ but I think that comes up to about 22 per hour!
Boy! now when the crowds die down over there, some of us ought to post at least a courtesy post!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 27th, 2012
9:19 pm
Well, it’s just about bedtime for a working man. And for some reason this song’s been running thru my head all day. It’s sorta about a poor man vs. a rich man, and I reckon that makes it a OK election tune. Anyways, if you wasn’t here when this one come out in 1963, you don’t know enough to blog and somebody needs to change your diaper, give you a good spanking, and put you to bed. Nobody sung a song like Lefty Frizzell, and there ain’t been another one since he passed on. I don’t know about you, but I’ve had enough of the fussing tonight and so it’s time for you to go to bed with old Lefty’s sound running thru your head:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqMCeA_1XW8
The Cons Are Fighting In Tampa....heeheehee
August 27th, 2012
9:20 pm
The Myth Robme Gang vs The Ron Paul Gang vs The Mike Huckabee Gang.
WHAT A BUNCH OF THUGS.
They CAN’T EVEN AGREE TO DISAGREE.
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
9:21 pm
OMG hey Bro start the mouth to mouth on those guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_5QdHp04E
—————
Yes I know — your ego is WAY larger than your vocabularly!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2cHkMwzOiM#t=02m02s
Fred ™
August 27th, 2012
9:21 pm
Well I was waiting for jeff, but I’m hungry so I think I’ll eat.
One good thing about this past weekend, well no 2 good things. 1) I found out how full of crap I was. I dropped from 289 to 276. So I was 13 pounds full of crap. Number 2 was that I dropped 13 pounds lol. Great way to kick start my diet.
A quasi vegetarian/low fat diet, increased exercise and elimination of beer. I’m on my way. I’ll be back in a speedo by next summer giving Doomy competition for the babes………..
JKL2
August 27th, 2012
9:21 pm
stands- said Elizabeth Unger, a political scientist at Georgetown University.
Maybe if she was trying to get people to pay for her birth control instead of writing articles, she would be speaking at the DNC convention too.
From that hard hitting expose, I’m guess she was trying to get a guest spot on the Democrat News Network (more commonly refered to as Comedy Central).
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 27th, 2012
9:23 pm
“Drop the soap”?
Really?
With every personal care company manufacturing any number of liquid soaps this is still a meme?
Geez….
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
August 27th, 2012
9:24 pm
night all. play nice and remember friends don’t let friends blog drunk.
Except for me that is.
I’m SPECIAL
They BOTH suck
August 27th, 2012
9:26 pm
Fred
Goo luck with the diet. Hope all goes well.
getalife
August 27th, 2012
9:26 pm
jk,
Better luck next time.
willie robme will lose.
They BOTH suck
August 27th, 2012
9:26 pm
Good
Fred ™
August 27th, 2012
9:26 pm
Common Freaking Sense isn’t very Common
August 27th, 2012
9:24 pm
night all. play nice and remember friends don’t let friends blog drunk.
Except for me that is.
I’m SPECIAL
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Yeah riding the short bus special………..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnF5Goxu2bI
Fred ™
August 27th, 2012
9:28 pm
TBS: Thanks. It has to go well. You know the old saying, if you aren’t good at something try something else. Well I’ve tried being fat and I’m not good at it. Fat people are supposed to be jolly and I’m a mean SOB so I better try being something else .
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
August 27th, 2012
9:30 pm
Fred
I said be nice LOL
They BOTH suck
August 27th, 2012
9:30 pm
Fred
You will get there. Don’t get down on those weeks when proper eating and exercise doesn’t equal much weight loss. Those will be minor obstacles on the way to your goal
bman.
August 27th, 2012
9:31 pm
“If a Conservative wants to know why Blacks voted for Democrats at rates of 90% or higher, they only need to look in the mirror.”
I know this is just speculation. But, suppose you were to ask 100 blacks why they vote democrat, or why they would never vote for a republican, how many do you suppose would give the same answer as you did above?
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
August 27th, 2012
9:31 pm
SoCoBro – I should do the same thing more often. I’m a romantic so I like to research a lot of “romantic history” from the rennaissance period and/or from the Harlem Rennaissance.
If I veer off into the realm of politics in my research, it’s only by chance. For instance, I was researching Zora Neale Hurston’s Their Eyes Were Watching God, and found out about her hometown in Florida — a veritable All Black city that’s been that way since Reconstruction; that led to my interst in other “all black towns”; and the existence of Rosewood.
You’ve just showed me that I have to start digger deeper into my “roots”.
Dangit!! A Bama showed me up!!!
jeff
August 27th, 2012
9:35 pm
Fred, I was about to answer you but TD said it better than I could have.. But if Payton made 19 mil a year then he would have paid over 3 mil in taxes. I paid $25,000. in taxes in 2011.. And I am blessed to have an income that called for that much in tax.
Our nation is in real trouble with folks like you here, You should be more concerned with your IQ than your weight.
zeke
August 27th, 2012
9:37 pm
TELLING THE TRUTH IS NOT RACIST!
td
August 27th, 2012
9:37 pm
Democratic protesters at their best:
2012 Republican Convention: Protesters Dressed as Vaginas Greet Delegates
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tampa-republican-conventions-code-pink-vagina-protesters-365541
Tell us how proud you are libs.
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
9:38 pm
bman
I wouldn’t think there are more than 5-6 that know the historical perspective. That said, when it’s been going on for 100 years, who would know that anyway? It’s not like you can pick up any history book and find that information.
It’s no different than many Blacks who don’t know how to swim because their parents and/or siblings didn’t know how to swim. When you have a system that works, you don’t change it. Liberal Republicans got Blacks elected after the Civil War. Progressive minded people helped during the fight to end Jim Crow and segregation. Those things are almost instinctive in the Black Community. If it were Conservatives that had done all that, you’d likely see Blacks voting 95% for GOP candidates.
Look back at how the percentage has increased for Democrats and compare that to the decline of moderate and liberal Republicans.
They BOTH suck
August 27th, 2012
9:40 pm
td
Do you condone all actions of every conservative?
yes or no
Not no, but
Not no, if
Not no, however
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
9:40 pm
DDR
I’ve dabbled into the towns and communities. Funny that you mention Rosewood. You don’t find that story or the story about Tulsa, Oklahoma in history books either. The Greenwood section of Tulsa was known as the “Black Wall Street” because of the concentration of wealth within that neighborhood. All that money didn’t keep it from getting burned down during the riots of 1919 though.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
August 27th, 2012
9:41 pm
SoCoBro – the Shaft shout out!! Classic!
Generation$crewed
August 27th, 2012
9:42 pm
disappointing Jay.
i see his base as Romney is arguing is those who depend upon the government for their needs to be met.
You make the jump to racism maybe so true 10-20 year ago.
More white folks on welfare than any demographic and you knew this.
So lecure us all on how exactly you are not guilty of doing exactly that of which you accuse Romney of?
Sad. Just don’t thinkI can support your blog any longer. Any who are against flat out intentional racial division should at the least discontinue support of this particular blog , if not contact the AJC and demand action for this truely ugly and twisted post.
Why did you even take the time to write the 1st part about how you hate to write this……..
maybe to make your subconscience sleep better tonight>
Shame sir you were an entertaining and enjoyable part of my day.
Soothsayer
August 27th, 2012
9:43 pm
jeff: for crying out loud! If you aren’t happy here, move to another country! If you can find another country in the entire World with lower taxes, please move there!
Taxes have never been lower! Deficits have never been higher! WTF do you WANT!
jeff: get out your 2011 tax return. Divide Line 44 by line 38 on your personal tax return. Tell me what you get.
If you can do better in some other country, by all means go there! Just quit whining and crying!! OK?
bman.
August 27th, 2012
9:45 pm
Bro .. .. But, what reason(s) would most likely be given as to why they would not vote republican? How often do you suppose they have heard ‘Republicans are racist” ? If they caught Biden’s comment,?
There isn’t any republican that can do or say anything to get the black vote. And honestly, I have no idea why they try.
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
9:47 pm
Oops.. Greenwood burned down in 1921 and not 1919
They BOTH suck
August 27th, 2012
9:48 pm
bman
Well they realy haven’t tried too hard.
Google Michael Steele’s comments pertaining to that direct issue when he was head of the RNC
Jay
August 27th, 2012
9:48 pm
bman, that is a great question. I’d be curious to know the answer as well.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
9:51 pm
I don’t think any of you libs. on here (Jay included) know the true definition of “racism”.
They BOTH suck
August 27th, 2012
9:51 pm
Earlier this week, RNC Chairman Michael Steele told a group of 200 students at DePaul University that African-Americans “don’t have a reason” to vote for Republican candidates.
During his remarks he also acknowledged that for decades the GOP pursued “‘Southern Strategy’ that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South.”
Steele was asked to explain why an African-American should vote Republican at a university-sponsored discussion on the conservative movement. The RNC chairman’s response: “You really don’t have a reason to, to be honest — we haven’t done a very good job of really giving you one. True? True.”
Steele also discussed with students his own experience being the victim of racial discrimination — a subject that the he has openly addressed in the past. Steele told TV One’s Roland Martin in November that even some of his fellow Republicans are “scared” of him because of his race.
Steele acknowledged his party’s failure to reach out and connect with African-Americans and other marginalized communities. “We have lost sight of the historic, integral link between the party and African-Americans,” he explained.
Steele went on to make a candid statement about how the disconnect between Republicans and minorities is not new and has been a part of the party’s strategy for years. The Chicago-Sun Times reports on what the RNC Chairman had to say:
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
9:52 pm
Zeke:
“TELLING THE TRUTH IS NOT RACIST!”
You are correct.
Believing that one race (usually yours) is genetically superior to another is racist.
getalife
August 27th, 2012
9:52 pm
willie said this is the last time a candidate will try to win on the white vote only.
They BOTH suck
August 27th, 2012
9:53 pm
Scout
I wouldn’t say just liberals. That would include most conservatives as well.
What many people throw around as racism in many cases is bigotry and prejudice imo.
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
9:53 pm
There isn’t any republican that can do or say anything to get the black vote. And honestly, I have no idea why they try.
That’s where you’re wrong. People try to paint it as a race thing when it’s nothing of the sort. The message that the Republicans peddle is not one that will go over well in the Black Community. As I’ve asked other people before, how can you tell someone to pull themselves up by their bootstraps when they are walking around with bare feet?
You don’t have to promise any giveaways either. All you have to do is level the playing field. When people have been continuously mistreated simply because of the color of their skin, anything they hear that remotely sounds that way will be perceived as such. Find an animal that has been abused. Raise your hand like you’re going to hit it and watch the response.
It’s all conditioning, and it will not change in 5-10 years. You’re talking about a community that has been physically and mentally shackled for close to 200 years on this soil. You can’t change that mindset in a single generation. You can’t will that kind of change either. It has to be genuine outreach to want to help someone to help themselves that will get there. As long as you have the current mouthpieces belittling the race as a whole, you set things back years each time they say something stupid.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
August 27th, 2012
9:53 pm
SoCoBro – yeah I know. With Rosewood and Tulsa a lot of history was lost. I’ve driven through Florida and there’s a plaque where Rosewood once stood — that’s it.
All those lives lost, and the only way you know it, is by reading a plaque.
Bill Orvis White
August 27th, 2012
9:53 pm
The only one playing the race card here is Liberal Jay. The Left always jumps on this race thing when they have NOTHING ELSE TO TALK ABOUT! King Hussein Obama does not subscribe to real American values. With that fact laid out here, it’s no surprise that Lil Hussein has thrown out the work requirement. This “president” uses “his” anti-colonial values to justify wealth redistribution which is the key component to “his” gutting Welfare Reform.
What in the world is racist about calling out this president on his failed policies? Give it up, you McFly Commie Libs. You know that your “president” failed even worse than your hero, Jimmah Carter. It’s not racism, you naive secular progressives. It’s called, the “man” fell down on the job. I would say that a lot of African-American men would be much better than King Hussein Obama. Dr. Keyes and Herman Cain come right to mind because they are real men who would stand up to liberalism, dictators while creating real private sector jobs. President Romney and Vice President Ryan WILL seriously end Welfare as we all know it – for good! You clueless libs are going to be in for a rude surprise in January.
Amen,
Bill
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
9:53 pm
racist
bigoted
prejudiced
preferential
DBCOOPER
August 27th, 2012
9:54 pm
Da gonna put Bookman back in chains.
Thulsa Doom
August 27th, 2012
9:54 pm
Over 800 comments later and the libs are still looking for racism in every nook, cranny, and corner. Like someone said earlier a hammer in search of a thousand nails.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
9:54 pm
They BOTH suck:
Thank you and I hear you but in my opinion libs. are by far the worst culprits when it come to the “intentional” misuse of that word.
Thulsa Doom
August 27th, 2012
9:55 pm
They gonna put you all back in chains- Joe Biden
Sure they are Joe.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
9:55 pm
Thulsa:
………….. or like ketchup. It goes on anything.
jeff
August 27th, 2012
9:56 pm
Soothsayer, Shut Up. Your nothing to me. I love this country, except for liberals like you.
Liberals like you think your opinion is all that matters.
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
9:59 pm
what reason(s) would most likely be given as to why they would not vote republican?
To sum it up in one word, attitude. You can’t denigrate me and then expect me to vote for you as though nothing happened. Blacks pick up on those dog whistle phrases just as well as others do.
How often do you suppose they have heard ‘Republicans are racist” ?
As many times as they’ve heard Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and others being referred to as race pimps. Actions speak louder than words. Don’t devolve every friggin’ incident into race and you won’t be viewed as racist.
If they caught Biden’s comment,?
Yep, and if you pay attention, you’ll hear laughter after he said that. It’s all in presentation. If you say something and mean it as humorous, it will come through in the context. If you don’t mean it as such, that will show as well. Compare the reactions to Biden’s comments and those from someone like Chris Rock. The two of them are pretty much saying the same thing and getting the same reaction.
Poetic Justice
August 27th, 2012
9:59 pm
There isn’t any republican that can do or say anything to get the black vote. And honestly, I have no idea why they try.
___________
One of the reasons might be that a lot of their dreams have been deferred!! Check out some of Langston Hughes poems for a deeper understanding!!
jeff
August 27th, 2012
10:01 pm
I don’t think taxes should be lower than they are. Raising tax rates is wrong. Cutting spending is the right thing to do. But not the military.
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
10:02 pm
DDR
Sometimes I wish I were older so that I could have talked to people who survived those incidents in order to record things as they really happened. This country was founded on violence, and it only acts and reacts in violent incidents. Until everybody comes 100% clean on the bigotries and hatreds of the past, we’ll be fighting these same demons for decades to come.
They BOTH suck
August 27th, 2012
10:03 pm
Scout
I have never kept count to be honest, but will say the word gets thrown around from all sides when it doesn’t apply.
curious
August 27th, 2012
10:05 pm
can anybody specify a position on an issue that Romney hasn’t taken both sides?
You conservatives are suckers; you’re going to be sold out. Romney isn’t your man.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 27th, 2012
10:07 pm
Soothsayer, Shut Up. Your nothing to me. I love this country, except for liberals like you.
There’s your sign.
The Cons Are Fighting In Tampa....heeheehee
August 27th, 2012
10:08 pm
@Thulsa Doom
August 27th, 2012
9:54 pm
Over 800 comments later and the libs are still looking for racism in every nook, cranny, and corner. Like someone said earlier a hammer in search of a thousand nails.
*******************************************
Not everything is a nail because you have a hammer.
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
Soothsayer
August 27th, 2012
10:09 pm
jeff: why not the military? Surely there’s some fat there we can trim, huh?
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
10:09 pm
Y’all have fun…
Quitin’ time here
bman.
August 27th, 2012
10:09 pm
Bro .. .. No disrespect, but the example about pulling yourself by your bootstraps, then followed with references to slavery, 200 years, animal abuse etc…I don’t see the connection.
Here and now. Blacks do not vote democrat for the reasons you are giving. Some? Sure. The majority? No way. I don’t have any study on it, and I’m certainly not black.
Thulsa Doom
August 27th, 2012
10:10 pm
“The message that the Republicans peddle is not one that will go over well in the Black Community.”
So what part of the R message is that doesn’t resonate. The part about rugged individualism and self reliance, individual responsibility, limited govt, free market capitalism, getting a hold of runaway debt? I have a difficult time believing African Americans are against all these things. Or am I wrong?
“As I’ve asked other people before, how can you tell someone to pull themselves up by their bootstraps when they are walking around with bare feet?”
That’s a nice bit of hyperbole and rhetoric but how many people have you seen running around barefooted? Seems to me that a lot of kids from poor neighborhoods somehow manage to run around in $100 Nikes as opposed to being barefooted. Enough with the nonsense about opportunity or lack of bootstraps. Prestigious colleges in California are packed out with Asians who went to many of the same tough inner city schools as many blacks. The difference in the 2 groups isn’t about opportunity or about not having bootstraps. Its about values such as family(including the 2 parent family), an incredible emphasis on education and hard work, staying out of trouble, etc. Until you address the uncomfortable truths of why black people are failing absymally relative to other minorities you’re going to be continously mired in collective failure.
Poor Central Americans who can’t even speak our language travel 3,000 miles through a desert in which hundreds die every year just to reach America and make enough money doing menial labor to support themselves and their families back in CA. These poor, uneducated Latins that can’t even speak English forgot to get the memo about how hard life is. Waaaaaa! So did the Asians whose forefathers were little more than indentured servants working on railroads.
I don’t want to hear any of the lame ass excuses and crap about not even having bootstraps to begin with. That’s a bunch of garbabe and frankly if you haven’t been to a 3rd world country outside of resorts then you don’t know what the hell not having bootstraps really means. This is the land of opportunity and if someone can’t make it here then they can’t make it anywhere. People need to quit their damn whining, quit blaming their failure on some racial bogey man, look in the mirror about the cultural habits that keep them down, and get their shyte together.
Just another uncomfortable truth brought to you by Doomy.
jeff
August 27th, 2012
10:12 pm
On the race issue, I just got back from a trip to Paris, One thing I saw was white and black young people hanging out together and working together and I could not see any racism. They were just people. No gang bangers, no KKK, just kids. Of course they don’t have Jessie and some of the other race baiters there stirring things up. Racism would cure its self if both sides dropped it.
bman.
August 27th, 2012
10:13 pm
Bro .. .. thanks. We can continue another day.
They BOTH suck
August 27th, 2012
10:13 pm
TD
Seeing that there are thousands of business owners who are Democrats, Republicans do not have a the monopoly of “free market capitalism”.
Makes for great talking points on blogs but it is far far from the truth
Soothsayer
August 27th, 2012
10:15 pm
I know I speak for everyone when I quote this man. SHUT UP!
Jason
August 27th, 2012
10:17 pm
This country is headed in the wrong direction and articles like this (from either side) do nothing to help. We’re going into another recession and turning Americans against Americans… How about writing about a solution to this mess instead of pointing fingers?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
10:17 pm
They BOTH suck:
So if the true definition of racism means one feels his/her race is genetically superior to another ……………. then what does “reverse racism” mean …………………
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
10:18 pm
Jason:
“How about writing about a solution to this mess instead of pointing fingers?”
Because ………………………… then this would not be a “Obama for President” campaign blog.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
10:20 pm
jeff:
“Racism would cure its self if both sides dropped it.”
Wrong ………….. because TRUE racism is evil and evil will always rear its ugly head.
TGT
August 27th, 2012
10:21 pm
Sounds like Newt’s been reading my posts.
getalife
August 27th, 2012
10:23 pm
jeff,
Did you support a party that refused to unite after a collapse and fought against our recovery for this election?
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
August 27th, 2012
10:23 pm
How often do you suppose they have heard ‘Republicans are racist” ? If they caught Biden’s comment,?
They being ME and my family have not only heard it but we’ve lived it too.
Again, why are you republicans trying to tell me what I should be offended by? It’s the same thing you do to women.
You say things like, “Well what Rush said, (about Fluke), was not meant to be serious”; or “What Biden says is awful BUT what Rush says is not to be taken seriously — he’s an entertainer.”
How many times do you denigrate someone by calling them out of their names but expect them to “not take you seriously”?
Women know when they are being talked down to; as do blacks.
The 3 card monty game that republicans are playing are fooling no one.
SoCoBro: Sometimes I wish I were older so that I could have talked to people who survived those incidents in order to record things as they really happened. This country was founded on violence, and it only acts and reacts in violent incidents.
I do sometimes too. However, then I think about stories that my Grand used to tell. It’s enough to make your hair stand up on the back of your head. I think of the story he told of his older brother, who was only days out of the ARmy still in his uniform , after WWII and was lynched by an all white mob in Alabama for being “uppity”.
Nope — it may be the good old days for some, but for me, I’m glad they’re, mostly, gone.
Thulsa Doom
August 27th, 2012
10:24 pm
“Seeing that there are thousands of business owners who are Democrats, Republicans do not have a the monopoly of “free market capitalism”.”
they both suck,
I understand that. I never said Rs have a monopoly on free market capitalism. Plenty of D professionals and business owners out there. I was simply asking Bro specifically what element of the R platform is it that black America disagrees with?
getalife
August 27th, 2012
10:25 pm
jason,
Yeah, Jay should keep this quiet and speak about it behind close doors like robme wants.
No jason, lets bring it out in the open and debate it.
Thulsa Doom
August 27th, 2012
10:29 pm
“How about writing about a solution to this mess instead of pointing fingers?”
Because as has been cynically noted the Ds always fall back to a position of riling up their base by conjuring up some racist bogeyman. As several people have noted Jay’s attempt to conjure up racism out of Romney’s statements on the welfare law is quite a stretch. Its unfortunate but conjuring up the racial bogeyman out of thin air is how they roll. And equally unfortunate is how many of their STOOOPID voters fall for that crap.
Soothsayer
August 27th, 2012
10:29 pm
No, Gnute’s been working on his moon base.
double
August 27th, 2012
10:30 pm
The Orifice continues to spew.
td
August 27th, 2012
10:30 pm
Brosephus™
August 27th, 2012
9:59 pm
” Actions speak louder than words.”
Not if you are a conservative. Bush had more African Americans in higher positions in government then Obama and what did it get him? Sonny placed more African Americans in Department directors positions then any Democratic governor in 130 years and what did it get him?
Poetic Justice
August 27th, 2012
10:32 pm
Langston Hughes….I Dream
getalife
August 27th, 2012
10:33 pm
” equally unfortunate is how many of their STOOOPID voters fall for that crap.”
cons swallow any lie and would vote for robme if he promised to lock them up.
Talk about ignorant voters
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
10:34 pm
No agenda here:
Just in case some of you “old timers” didn’t see these earlier ……….. they’re great !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDc0ID6PJeg&feature=youtu.be
http://www.stumptownblogger.com/2012/04/what-a-cool-video.html?cid=6a010536b86d36970c0163050cd62f970d
You libs
August 27th, 2012
10:35 pm
I will never see the name ThulsaDoom again without thinking of the Neil Armstrong thread.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
August 27th, 2012
10:35 pm
Here and now. Blacks do not vote democrat for the reasons you are giving. Some? Sure. The majority? No way. I don’t have any study on it, and I’m certainly not black.
That’s freaking amazing! A BLACK MAN tells you what he feels, and others like him about republicans, but you DON’T BELIEVE HIM!
What else do you want? How dumb is that?
Doom – I don’t want to hear any of the lame ass excuses and crap about not even having bootstraps to begin with. That’s a bunch of garbabe and frankly if you haven’t been to a 3rd world country
Doom – You’re in luck, your pals the repugs are trying to turn this country into a 3rd world country. Congrats.
You don’t know half the crap you’re talking about. and believe me, it shows. How the hell would you know? Seriously? You know nothing and each post you post just confirms your ignorance.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
10:35 pm
That first one on YouTube is worth it just for the old cars !
Thulsa Doom
August 27th, 2012
10:35 pm
“This country was founded on violence, and it only acts and reacts in violent incidents.”
Silly comment. You would be hard pressed to find a nation on earth that wasn’t founded on violence and whose people have never warred against others. Violence has been a part of human history since Cain slew Abel. And for the record Rosewood was nearly 100 years ago. A tragic and shameful black eye on U.S. history. But this is 2012. Constantly bringing up stuff like Rosewood from almost a century ago seems to have become nothing more than an outlet for vengeful hate masquerading as political correctness.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
10:36 pm
Rosewood has been replaced by “black flash mobs”.
jack bull
August 27th, 2012
10:36 pm
uh, Obama is the ‘Food Stamp President’ pursuing Kenyan values.. hello, Capt. Obvious..
and I have to say, I really don’t see anything racist at all in what is reported he said. Now, my very good black friend does say they are taught in church on how to ‘manipulate the system and the white man’ so they can get a lot of ‘free stuff’…his words, not mine…
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
August 27th, 2012
10:39 pm
Just another uncomfortable truth brought to you by Doomy.
So many sheeetheads, so little time…….
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 27th, 2012
10:40 pm
My girlfriend’s hairdresser’s husband has an uncle that used to work with a guy that knew someone who knew how to “manipulate the system”.
getalife
August 27th, 2012
10:40 pm
“I will never see the name ThulsaDoom again without thinking of the Neil Armstrong thread.”
Just doomy being doomy.
bman.
August 27th, 2012
10:40 pm
DDR .. .. You couldn’t have possibly been more off-track with your response to my comment.
Soothsayer
August 27th, 2012
10:40 pm
Scout: great post! LOVED IT!
getalife
August 27th, 2012
10:41 pm
“DDR .. .. You couldn’t have possibly been more off-track with your response to my comment.”
Then give the reason why bman.
Thulsa Doom
August 27th, 2012
10:42 pm
“That’s freaking amazing! A BLACK MAN tells you what he feels, and others like him about republicans, but you DON’T BELIEVE HIM!”
DDR,
Where did I state that I don’t believe him? I do believe that is what he “feels”. But that’s not what I asked him. I asked what it is about the R platform that black America opposes. And you’re reading all this other crap into it that I neither said nor suggested. How STOOOOPID is that?
“Doom – You’re in luck, your pals the repugs are trying to turn this country into a 3rd world country. Congrats.”
Well DDR its under your president that middle class incomes have declined almost 4 % since the recession ended. Sorry ma’am but W isn’t president anymore. Hasn’t been for nearly 4 years. And we haven’t been in recession for well over 3 years either.
“You don’t know half the crap you’re talking about.”
And I could just as easily say the same about you.
“and believe me, it shows.”
You must be referring to your own ignorance.
“How the hell would you know? Seriously? You know nothing and each post you post just confirms your ignorance.”
Well if that were true then you would specifically detail how and why it is that I don’t know what the hell I’m talking about rather than just blabbering incessantly. But you can’t back up your accusations so you just keep blabbering.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
August 27th, 2012
10:44 pm
Not if you are a conservative. Bush had more African Americans in higher positions in government then Obama and what did it get him?
So, we’re supposed to bow down and kiss the repuglican azz for appointing TEN PEOPLE to positions?
Iza so sorry Mr. Repuglican — Iza see yous just be being nice to us black folks! why you putz 10 whole people into jobs!! Then yous turn around and talk bad about millions!!
Yallz are da bestest. Ise so happy to have ya’ll white folks telling mez what to do….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
10:44 pm
Sooth:
You’re welcome ………….. takes you back to a time when at least things “seemed” more right.
Thulsa Doom
August 27th, 2012
10:45 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 27th, 2012
10:36 pm
Rosewood has been replaced by “black flash mobs”.
Scout,
Black mob violence aimed specifically at whites? Just another uncomfortable truth that DDR would rather not address. Its more befitting her hateful narrative to stick with an event from nearly 100 years ago like Rosewood. After all we live in 1920 and not 2012 right DDR?
curious
August 27th, 2012
10:47 pm
In 2010, Romney make 2.1 billion $ in off shore investments and paid 52 thousands $ in taxes on it.
We made up the difference
He’ll be like Nixon and will hope Ryan gives him a pardon..
Soothsayer
August 27th, 2012
10:47 pm
You left out “Massa!”
Thulsa Doom
August 27th, 2012
10:48 pm
“Not if you are a conservative. Bush had more African Americans in higher positions in government then Obama and what did it get him?”
Well we see how this goes. You point out a fact that doesn’t fit someone’s hate filled narrative and what do they respond with? A lot of hate filled invective that doesn’t address the fact of how many prominent African Americans W hired in high level positions. Facts don’t matter to libs. Hateful, emotional rhetoric is how they roll.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
August 27th, 2012
10:48 pm
Is Jay gone? Anyone’s seen him? o.k. coast is probably clear
-Doom I wasn’t talking to your stooopid azz. I was talking to Bman. idgit.
Soothsayer
August 27th, 2012
10:49 pm
Here’s another one you may like.
Tundra Dude
August 27th, 2012
10:50 pm
JB:
In his ambition to become president, Mitt Romney is trotting out the race card,
Can’t blame him too much.
He’s not playing with a full deck, has to create more cards out of desperation, seems like.
getalife
August 27th, 2012
10:50 pm
willie lives in a white bubble.
Someone should tell him there are over 300 million different people in this country.
Not just white people.