Neil Armstrong, who took a giant leap for mankind
I was 12 years old at the time. As I recall it, Dad was away on TDY (temporary duty) in the Air Force, and my younger brother and sister were tucked in bed asleep. So Mom and I sat together in our darkened living room, watching on our little black-and-white television while Neil Armstrong made history.
Afterward, we went outside and looked up at the moon and marveled that human beings at that very moment were walking around up there. In a very strange time in our nation’s history, replete with assassinations and riots and turmoil, it served as a reminder that almost unimaginable feats could still be accomplished.
It was a moment that, sadly, cannot be explained to those who were not there to experience it, in large part because we cannot replicate the genuine sense of awe and wonder felt worldwide.
Rest in peace, Neil Armstrong.
– Jay Bookman
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Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
2:03 pm
“A fascinating, troubling story of high-level diplomatic and military intrigue, backstabbing, military adventurism, romance, etc., at ”
Maybe you should apply for Brisbane’s old position, Jay. You might be a good fit and NY is not nearly as conservative as GA. Beat that liberal drum.
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
2:06 pm
“OK after dealing with Towncrier – I’ve got to leave for a minute — I think my I.Q. just went down 10 points.”
If that is true, all I can say is “yikes”!
Jay
August 26th, 2012
2:22 pm
Crier, what on earth makes you read any of that as political or ideological, besides your own fixation?
Mick
August 26th, 2012
2:28 pm
Ms. todd sure had some great ability to keep landing on her feet in all those high powered jobs! Still, I remember the times and thought we might provoke iran, the invisible hands of dick cheney loom large – he wanted it bad…W to his credit had enough…
Jay
August 26th, 2012
2:30 pm
And one last warning: cease the personal attacks.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 26th, 2012
2:33 pm
“2016″
“Box Office Report: Anti-Obama Doc Beats New Films With $6.3 Mil on Eve of GOP Convention”
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/box-office-report-anti-obama-doc-beats-films-161221160.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRbqMGtvQD0
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 26th, 2012
2:35 pm
Did JamVet get pulled ?
Mick
August 26th, 2012
2:36 pm
0311
Yeah… but how did it do compared to batman? It’s just chum for the piranha, I’m happy for you all. The debates will settle it once and for all…imho
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 26th, 2012
2:38 pm
LOME, Togo (AP) — “The female wing of a civil rights group is urging women in Togo to stage a week-long sex strike to demand the resignation of the country’s president.”
Hope this doesn’t catch on here !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 26th, 2012
2:39 pm
Mick:
I keep saying …………….. debate and lay off the personal attacks against other posters. Some people never learn.
Mick
August 26th, 2012
2:41 pm
0311
I over E…….Intelligence over Emotion….easier said than done but always the correct choice-
Erwin's cat
August 26th, 2012
2:41 pm
RIP Niel…I was 8, remember it like yesterday…Dad made me watch it…Thanks Dad
JamVet
August 26th, 2012
2:44 pm
No, numerologist.
Your worst rabbit hole plugging nightmare is still here.
Brosephus™
August 26th, 2012
2:45 pm
some incredibly stupid broad-brush swipes TD took at black men the other day
Melanin envy tends to manifest itself in strange and unusual ways at times.
Just sayin’
getalife
August 26th, 2012
2:46 pm
I am pretty sure the same people that wanted to provoke Iran will get their way if romney wins.
He already said he is open to troops being killed and bogged down in another civil war in Syria on the credit card.
romney is another w disaster waiting to happen.
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
2:54 pm
“Crier, what on earth makes you read any of that as political or ideological, besides your own fixation?”
First off, thanks for that tacit acknowledgement that the NYT does have and has had a liberal bias – a seemingly obvious fact not readily acknowledged by liberals. And I will acknowledge that almost all journalists these days have and display bias – on the right or left.
Secondly, in answer to your question, the article to which you linked appears in the Washington Post (comparable, in many people’s mind – which I suspect you know, to the NYT in terms of its liberal bias). On the first page alone these two phrases are used: “neoconservative hawks” and “right-wing”. I hope you don’t intend on arguing that those are value-neutral terms used by everyone (and not just liberals).
Thirdly, while Jeff Stein does some good investigative work, it seems to me that he does not always conceal his political leanings (as he should). And that is the kind of “journalism” I think Brisbane was alluding to – not out and out lies, but a slanted presentation.
Lastly, I said what I said more tongue-in-cheek than anything (because I suspect that nary a liberal is going to address the “inconvenient truth” revealed by Brisbane and I am trying my darndest to get someone to). For the record, I do not at all mind the NYT being biased (since I really think we are all of us biased to some extent). But I very much mind the pretense it is not.
getalife
August 26th, 2012
2:58 pm
crier,
New York City is liberal.
New to politics?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 26th, 2012
2:58 pm
“liberal bias” blah, blah, blah, “liberal bias” blah, blah, blah…
Repetitious spam.
Jay
August 26th, 2012
2:59 pm
There was no acknowlegement, tacit or otherwise, about anything regarding the NYT in my message, Crier. You are getting downright ridiculous, so I’ll choose to end it right here.
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
3:09 pm
“In his final column for the Times, Brisbane wrote that his fellow staffers “share a kind of political and cultural progressivism” that “virtually bleeds through the fabric of The Times.” Brisbane even argued that Times reporters approached some liberal issues, like gay marriage and the Occupy movement, “more like causes than news subjects.”
Brisbane’s statement is either true or it is not. And it is okay if it is true and the NYT and liberals acknowledge they have a liberal bias. It is not okay if it is true and they claim they don not. For that goes beyond having a bias to actually lying.
Is any liberal here going to touch this with a ten foot pole?
getalife
August 26th, 2012
3:22 pm
I think murdoch’s rags and the washington times have a conservative bias but I don’t fixate on them.
DannyX
August 26th, 2012
3:27 pm
Great posts Towncrier! Liberals seem to have a huge mental block when it comes to the liberal media.
Just now some information is coming to light that exposes the vast liberal media conspiracy. It seems the liberal media and the liberal science community have joined forces yet again. Meteorologists have known for the last week that hurricane Isaac was headed for Louisiana, NOT, Tampa. Meteorologists purposely said the hurricane was going to impact Tampa in order to disrupt the Republican Convention. The liberal media was happy to go along with this lie because they desperately want to see Obama re-elected. The liberal media repeated this lie over and over again in headlines and weather sections across the country. Hurricane Isaac hitting Tampa was a total con. Look what happened, Republicans were forced to cancel a big part of their convention.
It’s a conspiracy!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 26th, 2012
3:29 pm
Whining about liberal media bias is a learned behavior of victim-hood programmed over the period of a generation by talk-radio.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
For brother AmVet
http://truth-out.org/news/item/10766-a-road-less-traveled-presidential-candidate-rocky-anderson-speaks-candidly-on-the-crumbling-state-of-the-union
Recon 0311 2533
August 26th, 2012
3:32 pm
Towncrier,
I think that most people who keep in touch with what’s being reported in the country and around the world know that a liberal bias does indeed exist in the media. It doesn’t really require an admission from Brisbane or a denial from anyone. It is what it is and it has been that way for a long time.
Marco
August 26th, 2012
3:34 pm
I was 9 yrs. old and camping at Lake Welch, NY w/ my family. I remember there was 1 of those huge outhouses public campgrounds had in those days; it had electricity. Someone ran an extension cord & plugged in a small B& W tv and set it in 1 of the windows by the sinks. must’ve been 100 of us campers watching that tv outside that night. It was like 11 pm I think.We could see the moon clearly both on tv and in the sky. An awesome childhood memory. RIP Neil.
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
3:41 pm
“I think that most people who keep in touch with what’s being reported in the country and around the world know that a liberal bias does indeed exist in the media. It doesn’t really require an admission from Brisbane or a denial from anyone. It is what it is and it has been that way for a long time.”
Getting liberals to admit that purportedly “objective” mainstays of the mainstream media like the NYT is liking pulling teeth. But it is something I feel must be done before conservatives and liberals can have an honest debate about things and actually solve problems. I have no problem with someone holding different views from me and arguing for those positions passionately (as I do for my positions). I have a problem with sneakiness and dishonesty from anyone. It has SO frequently been denied on this blog that the mainstream media has a liberal bias that I want to rub the liberals faces in Brisbane’s statement until they acknowledge it – until they “get real” (as it were).
Brosephus™
August 26th, 2012
3:47 pm
Anybody who spends their time looking for media bias instead of facts should worry more about how they are being swayed as opposed to who’s doing the swaying. Regardless to what kind of perceived bias there is in our media, facts have no bias, and our media is pretty much corporate owned institutions who have a vested interest in the political dialogue that goes far and beyond simply reporting factual and unbiased news.
Anybody looking for unbiased news is on a fool’s errand.
JamVet
August 26th, 2012
3:49 pm
Thanks, Kam!
Making up more untrue stuff about people, are we, crier?
What would Jesus say about that?!
Still high from last night’s show!
(I always loved the bass in this gem…)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMAo0m4E4Lc
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 26th, 2012
3:55 pm
AmVet
My favorite ARS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYZui8mge70
Recon 0311 2533
August 26th, 2012
3:56 pm
Towncrier,
The lefts almost psychotic hatred for Fox News in essence is their own admission of left wing media bias. Even though Fox does present differing political viewpoints in their reporting and have on staff as well as independent advisers left leaning personalities, Fox’s existence still enrages leftists. It says that they can’t tolerate any news organization that doesn’t slant reporting mostly to the left.
JamVet
August 26th, 2012
4:02 pm
Yeah, Bro Kam.
In that stellar catalog of theirs, I had forgotten about that one.
A killer song.
Maybe, I’m just getting older and more sentimental, but brother, the vibe from the crowd last night was a knockout!
And a nice breezy evening outdoors didn’t hurt any at all.
On this one, the lead singer just let the crowd sing a bunch of the lyrics.
Big fun…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjiBLo-qKZw
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
4:04 pm
“Anybody who spends their time looking for media bias instead of facts should worry more about how they are being swayed as opposed to who’s doing the swaying.”
Please explain how quoting the outgoing managing editor of the NYT is “looking for media bias” (as you put it). I don’t have to look for it, for as I have said in other posts (even today on this very page), I believe some amount of bias is unavoidable for any of us. How does your post address the MAIN point of my post – namely that people deny there is a bias?
“Regardless to what kind of perceived bias there is in our media, facts have no bias, and our media is pretty much corporate owned institutions who have a vested interest in the political dialogue that goes far and beyond simply reporting factual and unbiased news.”
“Facts” are couched in propositions and therein lies the problem (once someone begins introducing certain value-laden modifiers) as follows:
1) John is a man.
2) John is a right-winger (instead of a conservative or a man who holds conservative beliefs)
3) John is a left-winger (instead of a liberal or a man who holds liberal beliefs)
“Anybody looking for unbiased news is on a fool’s errand.”
Agreed. But anybody who denies the bias exists? You failed to address that point.
You libs
August 26th, 2012
4:06 pm
Kam @ 3:29 “Whining about liberal media bias is a learned behavior of victim-hood programmed over the period of a generation by talk-radio.”
So true.
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
4:08 pm
“The lefts almost psychotic hatred for Fox News in essence is their own admission of left wing media bias. Even though Fox does present differing political viewpoints in their reporting and have on staff as well as independent advisers left leaning personalities, Fox’s existence still enrages leftists. It says that they can’t tolerate any news organization that doesn’t slant reporting mostly to the left.”
I think there is some truth to what you say, Recon. But I don’t think, its claim to be “fair and balanced” to the contrary, that the FNC does lean right on balance. I want to be honest about that, like I am asking liberals to be honest about media such as the NYT. I admit the WSJ leans right on balance because I think the evidence show it does.
getalife
August 26th, 2012
4:09 pm
Lets post from the Times like they do with drudegy”
“Too Late to Shake That Etch A Sketch”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/opinion/sunday/too-late-to-shake-that-etch-a-sketch.html?_r=1&hp
getalife
August 26th, 2012
4:12 pm
“U.S. Foreign Arms Sales Reach $66.3 Billion in 2011″:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/27/world/middleeast/us-foreign-arms-sales-reach-66-3-billion-in-2011.html?hp
The mic made enough money. Cut it.
Recon 0311 2533
August 26th, 2012
4:14 pm
Towncrier,
On balance Fox news does lean right, however, part of my point was that you do hear the other sides story as well. From my perspective it’s infrequent that you’ll get any kind of balanced reporting in the MSM or from network news on television.
Mick
August 26th, 2012
4:16 pm
Bias in the news? Chip on the shoulder? Liberals, it’s the lazy cons blame card for all ills real and imagined….
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
4:16 pm
“Lets post from the Times like they do with drudegy”
Gal, you have actually hit on one way in which bias reveals itself – headlines. Another way, of course, is what matter is actually being “reported” upon (out of the millions of events that occur daily in the world). A third way is what evidence or supporting “facts” are included or ignored. A third way is the use of value laden modifiers like “right-wing” and “left-wing”.
Recon 0311 2533
August 26th, 2012
4:17 pm
Y’all have an enjoyable Sunday afternoon. I’m out
getalife
August 26th, 2012
4:18 pm
Everything that murdoch owns is rw propaganda.
getalife
August 26th, 2012
4:20 pm
Then you have corporate media giving the gop a free pass.
Stop crying crier.
DannyX
August 26th, 2012
4:20 pm
Everyone has their biases. If you think the NY Times is biased, don’t read it. If you think the Wall St Journal is biased, don’t read it. Don’t like MSNBC? Fox News? ABC News? Don’t watch. Huff Post or Drudge. Today’s media is not your father’s media.
Last I checked we still have a free press. Conservatives have no entitlement to the NY Times. What ever happened to free market? Is the AJC too liberal for you? Start your own paper, supply and demand right?
The Fox television network declined to run an evening news program like their counterparts at CBS, ABC and NBC do. The Fox Network has the huge Fox News infrastructure they could benefit from. Murdoch declined, why??? Conservatives like to whine about the “liberal media” just like their tired “liberal activist judge” whine. Conservatives love playing the victim.
If conservatives want their own media go for it, stop whining about it. Get Bain Capital to start up a conservative media enterprise. Put your beloved money where your whiny mouths are.
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
4:22 pm
“On balance Fox news does lean right, however, part of my point was that you do hear the other sides story as well.”
Well I think the best point was the observation that liberals often get very angry about the FNC because a DIFFERENT story is being told then the one they want to be told. And tellingly they demean it as not being objective when, in fact, they are fine with the liberal bias of the mainstream media but cannot tolerate another source of news upsetting the proverbial apple cart. It occurs to me now that perhaps the biggest single cause of partisanship we now see in America is that there is no longer a monolithic media presenting the same “reality” as before.
Brosephus™
August 26th, 2012
4:22 pm
I didn’t accuse you of looking for bias. However, if you want me to, I can include you in that group. Your continued insistence on some “liberal” to acknowledge something that they may or may not agree with is nothing more than an answer looking for a problem.
If there is a liberal bias in media, what bearing does it have on anything? For every liberal outlet there is a polar opposite conservative outlet. It’s more likely that conservative outlets outnumber liberal ones when you considered ALL forms of media as there is very little talk radio of significance that leans left.
I personally don’t give a rat’s ass about bias. I know how to think for myself, and I am more than capable of gleaning facts from reports to help me determine what I think is the actual truth.
As to people who can’t/won’t/don’t acknowledge bias, how many drunk drivers find police officers to acknowledge they are drunk? In other words, why would a biased person want to acknowledge their own bias?
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
4:25 pm
“If conservatives want their own media go for it, stop whining about it. ”
I am not whining about the NYT – show where I was. I am challenging liberals to STOP pretending that the mainstream media is not biased. That’s all. Thanks for YOUR admission.
getalife
August 26th, 2012
4:26 pm
crier is biased but cries about others being biased.
That my friends is a common con hypocrisy argument so don’t let the hypocrite hijack the thread about a great American hero’s death.
DannyX
August 26th, 2012
4:29 pm
“I am challenging liberals to STOP pretending that the mainstream media is not biased.”
Your whole point is a big whine. Don’t like the NY Times, don’t read it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 26th, 2012
4:39 pm
I am not whining about the NYT – show where I was.
Almost everything you have posted on this thread, beginning at 2:32 this morning has been nonstop whining about the liberal media or liberal interpretation of the freedom of speech.
What you haven’t done is make one single solitary on-topic comment.
Your presence here on this thread is to post non-stop off topic spam to hijack the conversation.
DannyX
August 26th, 2012
4:40 pm
“mainstream media”
The tired mainstream media whine needs to be put to rest. Newspapers all over the country have lost a big chunk of their circulations. Evening news shows have seen huge drops in their ratings. Not because people are tired of the “liberal mainstream media.”
The internet has changed everything, I don’t even have cable or satellite anymore. I get my news from the internet. I have about a million choices. There is something for everyone on the internet.
Why is it that conservatives are always at least 20 years behind the times?
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
4:40 pm
“I didn’t accuse you of looking for bias.”
Then why talk about people looking for bias? Why go off point?
“However, if you want me to, I can include you in that group.”
And that statement accomplishes what, exactly?
“Your continued insistence on some “liberal” to acknowledge something that they may or may not agree with is nothing more than an answer looking for a problem.”
In you limited opinion. I can produce plenty of posts wherein I acknowledge a number of things other (more zealous) conservative may not. I can also produce plenty of posts by liberals belittling conservative media while denying a liberal bias in mainstream media.
“If there is a liberal bias in media, what bearing does it have on anything?”
Are you serious? It means we have to exercise a great deal of scrutiny and judgement just to try to get at the truth. That’s a good thing? It has no bearing on life when people don’t exercise scrutiny and judgement?
“For every liberal outlet there is a polar opposite conservative outlet. It’s more likely that conservative outlets outnumber liberal ones when you considered ALL forms of media as there is very little talk radio of significance that leans left.”
Why state the obvious? It almost seems you think I am attacking the NYT (which I am not). It is also true that this was NOT the situation 20 years or so ago. The “media” was much more monolithic and, if biased, more dangerous then.
“I personally don’t give a rat’s ass about bias. I know how to think for myself, and I am more than capable of gleaning facts from reports to help me determine what I think is the actual truth.”
Good for you. You are college educated, smart, well read and so on. How does that apply to Joe Plumber (who might be less circumspect)?
“In other words, why would a biased person want to acknowledge their own bias?”
No one naturally want to admit their failings or wrongdoing. But we all have them and it gets easier after awhile. The main reason they should want to do so is because humility in admitting wrongs and honesty about what you think and feel is the basis for relationships. And, really, America is one big extended family with now a whole LOT of problems. Again, it is okay to be biased. It is not okay to pretend you are not – it is counterproductive and destructive to relationships.
getalife
August 26th, 2012
4:48 pm
jindal’s press conference on the hurricane is hard to understand because he talks way too fast and way too long. Voluntary evacuations and took the same path as Katrina but cat 2 hurricane.
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
4:51 pm
“Almost everything you have posted on this thread, beginning at 2:32 this morning has been nonstop whining about the liberal media or liberal interpretation of the freedom of speech.”
I have not been whining, I have been harping a confession made by the outgoing managing editor of the NYT about its liberal bias because I know full well that had I not done so, not a peep would have been said about it on this blog (despite all of the previous denials by posters here I have read of liberal bias and their antipathy and loathing for conservative news sources). I am, in a sense, trying to rub everyone’s face in it so they will no longer PRETEND organizations like the NYT are not biased. I do NOT pretend the FNC or Drudge is objective. I am just looking for people to be honest about this. THAT IS ALL. And I see a number of posters now are.
“What you haven’t done is make one single solitary on-topic comment.”
This from the guy who told me I cannot dictate what he posts on this blog?
“Your presence here on this thread is to post non-stop off topic spam to hijack the conversation.”
I don’t often beat a drum like this. See my first comment.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 26th, 2012
4:53 pm
And still no on topic post.
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
4:57 pm
“Your whole point is a big whine. Don’t like the NY Times, don’t read it”
No, your response is a whine. I regularly read articles from the Huffington Post, New Republic and so on. Why then would I not be willing to read a NYT article? Don’t confuse the passion behind what someone says with whining necessarily – it doesn’t reflect well upon one.
Brosephus™
August 26th, 2012
4:58 pm
Then why talk about people looking for bias? Why go off point?
Well, considering people were waxing nostalgic on the space program on this thread, you should not be the poster asking that particular question.
It means we have to exercise a great deal of scrutiny and judgement just to try to get at the truth.
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
5:00 pm
“And still no on topic post.”
In the words of a well-known poster: “You don’t get to dictate how or what I post, sport.”
You libs
August 26th, 2012
5:05 pm
towncrier
Do you really not understand that FoxNews is the defacto propaganda arm of the Republican party?
Really?
Just wow.
getalife
August 26th, 2012
5:05 pm
Armstrong said the moon walk was “just a job” .
Do you agree crier?
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
5:08 pm
“Do you really not understand that FoxNews is the defacto propaganda arm of the Republican party?”
I wouldn’t put it that way (nor would I say the opposite of MSNBC), but I have readily admitted that the FNC has a conservative bias. Please show where I have said otherwise.
Brosephus™
August 26th, 2012
5:11 pm
It means we have to exercise a great deal of scrutiny and judgement just to try to get at the truth.
You should do that regardless to whether you smell bias or not. When most of our media outlets are controlled by so few, why would you trust them anyway?
You are college educated, smart, well read and so on. How does that apply to Joe Plumber (who might be less circumspect)?
I don’t think it matters. Distrust doesn’t come based on education. It’s all about personal experiences, history, and perceptions. Education isn’t what sowed the seeds of distrust in me. That came based on what I observed and what I learned from studying history.
Producer
August 26th, 2012
5:13 pm
The success of the Apollo program can be liked to a championship prize fight. The early rounds went to the Reds, they had the first satellite, the first man and, even the first woman, 1963 versus 1983 for our Sally Ride. They had the first space-walk and then our space program goes on a year and half standing eight count following the Apollo 1 fire. We were battered and bloody. Then came the rib-busting body blow by Apollo 8, who circled the moon in 1968. The Russians never, ever recovered and Neil’s flight in 1969 dealt the staggering knockout to their entire space program. They were down for the count, never again to contend or compete. This was the first public bloodying and humiliating defeat of the Soviets and was a significant event in the coming of the end of the Cold War. A short twenty years later they disintegrated! The first real weakening occurred in the Space Race. So, thank you Neil, not only for personifying American greatness but helping push the Soviets into the dust bin of history.
Fred ™
August 26th, 2012
5:13 pm
I wonder what Murdoch did to Ted Turner or Turner did to Rupert Murdoch to make them hate each other so much. Does anyone know?
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
5:17 pm
“The success of the Apollo program can be liked to a championship prize fight.”
Given where we now know we were in terms of technological advances, it was a very, very remarkable technical achievement.
getalife
August 26th, 2012
5:18 pm
Fred,
I listen to to Ted’s interviews and he hates yellow journalism.
He wanted news without bias.
Towncrier
August 26th, 2012
5:22 pm
Now, before I leave, here is my “on topic” post for the day:
I consider myself blessed to have had, as a young child, the opportunity to have actually sat in one of the Apollo space capsules at the World’s Fair in Montreal. I don’t remember a lot about that experience, but I definitely recall there being a lot of switches. Neil and all of the other astronauts had tremendous courage to ride into space in such cramped quarters with the very real possibility of never returning.
josef
August 26th, 2012
5:32 pm
It would help if those arguing about bias knew the meaning of the word. Since when is a bias necessarily a negative thing? It’s a neutral term meaning a slant. You know, like cut on the bias? Of course the NYT has a liberal bias. So does the AJC. The Wall Street Journal has a conservative bias. You know that when you go there. And if you can find me a news source that doesn’t have a bias, let me know. Even if you can get to fair and balanced or neutral, that’s still a bias.
OTHERWISE
How the hell is everybody and who is Big Daddy threatening with banishment to the lower 40 today. The boy’s been on the rag of late…oh, well, at least he’s paying some attention to his chirren and we aren’t playing unsupervised…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 26th, 2012
5:39 pm
josef:
You may have missed this earlier.
When are we going to name a hurrican “Ishmael” ?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 26th, 2012
5:40 pm
How the hell is everybody…
I’m just f*ckin’ fine.
How the hell are you?
josef
August 26th, 2012
5:43 pm
WHOSE NAME FOR HIMSELF I MAY NOT USE
I know what you’re aiming for there, but the name Ishmael is not limited to the Islamic world. It’s a fairly common given name in the Latino world, so it could happen. My question is when are we going to name one Jesus or Mohammad!
K’CHAK
Full of piss and vinagre. Had a productive weekend!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 26th, 2012
5:44 pm
Kammy:
Lighten up ! Back in a couple of hours ……………….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 26th, 2012
5:45 pm
Just trying to be fair !
You mean “Joshua” ……………….. ??
Back later ……………………….
josef
August 26th, 2012
5:46 pm
Have we had a Moses or Abraham yet?
Fred ™
August 26th, 2012
5:47 pm
yo Josef. Other than the fact I’m currently “purging my system” for a colonoscopy and haven’t eaten for two days, I’m just peachy forking keen.
And how’s tricks for you?
As to who or what Jay’s OTR about I don’t know. He gave someone (or maybe everyone) a last warning for personal attacks, but I didn’t go back to see who was stepping out. All I know is it was me or you lol cause we weren’t here.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 26th, 2012
5:50 pm
I will only be offended if they name a hurricane Cthulhu
josef
August 26th, 2012
5:50 pm
FRED
He says it’s okay to do it to public figures…does that include him?
That stuff is awful! I’d rather eat nettles…
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Scriptural names for hurricanes? Yael and Lillith come to mind!
pogo
August 26th, 2012
5:53 pm
The New York Times world is about to come crashing in on them. Same with the AJC and the WP and the LT’s. Dowds article in the times was hilarious. Her desperation and frustration was palpable in the piece. She, like so many elitist rich liberals cannot fathom the thought that the average everyday Joe does not subscribe to their ideology. Kind of like Jay and Luckovich. And to liberals, any news organization that does not carry the flame for the liberal/progressive cause is considered “right wing”. Using the liberals logic, if, in some never-never land we had a news organization that was completely unbiased, they would consider them “right wing” because they did not further the leftist cause in their reporting. As josef said, that is the world we live in. What it all boils down to is you can’t trust any of them and you will have to make up your own mind. And most of America already has at this point.
josef
August 26th, 2012
5:53 pm
BTW
The article Big Daddy posted reads like a novel…does she have an agent?
Brosephus™
August 26th, 2012
5:55 pm
How the hell is everybody
Absof**kinglutely fantastic. And you?
josef
August 26th, 2012
6:01 pm
POGO
What bothers me is when somebody wants to come in here like our in resident Saint pretending they are free of bias and prejudice. Perhaps they may have convinced themselves of such, but I don’t buy it and tend not to give that individual much credence from that point on. These are natural human perspectives and responses. It’s what we do with them and how we allow them to cloud our judgment as to where the problem lies. I may or may not agree with you and may think you’re full of sh*t, but that doesn’t necessarily mean I’m right and you’re wrong. Seeing it from the other’s point of view (i.e.bias) and preference (i.e. prejudice) is essential to respectful exchange of ideas.
josef
August 26th, 2012
6:02 pm
BROSEPHUS, FRED
Just plumb full of my self!
Brosephus™
August 26th, 2012
6:07 pm
Josef
ExLax can remedy that problem quite well.
josef
August 26th, 2012
6:11 pm
BROSEPHUS
Are you implying I’m full of…? Big Daddy, Big Daddy, Brosephus is making personal attacks…
Oh, wait, it’s the truth…nevermind…
Brosephus™
August 26th, 2012
6:15 pm
Fred ™
August 26th, 2012
6:21 pm
I can send you some of what I’m drinking josef if you want………
josef
August 26th, 2012
6:22 pm
FRED
Eeeeewwww!
Fred ™
August 26th, 2012
6:29 pm
What I don’t understand is this……. they call it a clear liquid diet. Vodka is clear and liquid. I can drink ginger ale but not Coors Light, why? How about white wine? Those are all clear liquids…………
G Mare
August 26th, 2012
6:34 pm
Hi, all, I’m back – checked out early last night, but not before I caught that DOTAGE comment, Josef!
Jay, thanks for article re Todd – WOW.
Old Goober
August 26th, 2012
6:39 pm
“Don’t think they have condoms in 1776.”
Wrong. They existed even in Shakespeare’s time and earlier, although they were made of animal intestines, not latex. See Hogarth’s portrait “The Prostitute”(ca. 1759) for a table full of contraceptive devices.
Brosephus™
August 26th, 2012
6:40 pm
Fred
josef
August 26th, 2012
6:47 pm
G-MARE
I’m there with you!
A quick family story…my maternal Granny, a genteel Victorian lady of grace, poise and refinement was being interviewed by the local paper on the occasion of her 95th birthday, She had handled the interview with ever-so-piss properly and the reporter asked her, “Now, Miz Mosher, what would you say is the most rewarding thing about living so long?” She smiled sweetly and said, “the ability to tell anybody, any time, any place to go to hell and get by with it. They’ll just say, ’she’s old.” The reporter, to her credit, didn’t use the quote!
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 26th, 2012
6:49 pm
Skydog – “Speaking of defense.
I had rather be hit by Ronnie Lott than come in here and present a dumb idea.
Get hit by Lawrence Taylor or blog planted by getalife?
Give me LT.
Bones will heal.”
You’re scared of getalife? That is the funniest thing I have ever read here.
Mick
August 26th, 2012
6:50 pm
Lions, and tigers and liberial bias…..who’s afraid of the big bad wolf? Wankers…
josef
August 26th, 2012
6:54 pm
STEVE
Unless you’re already bald and don’t have any testicles, I’d suggest you not tangle with getalife. He’s got some good friends in his corner…
Mick
August 26th, 2012
7:00 pm
I wonder if it is liberal bias that wants a nice huge destructive hurricane that they can feed off for the next week! They sure over hyped it down here in paradise, nothing more than a rain event but they wanted some drama. Sorry about that, mother nature has other plans – on to the gulf coast for another shot…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 26th, 2012
7:02 pm
Well I am late to the post but Jay, I was the same age as you. I remember being woken up to watch. The discussions of whether something would happen, the risks. It indeed was a unique experience. The words spoken were well said. I daresay that today I suspect that we would hear about the failure to idolize the American Exceptionalism or some similar garbage. It truly is a shame because acts like walking on the moon are what truly bring a country together in some many ways.
Fred ™
August 26th, 2012
7:08 pm
josef
August 26th, 2012
6:54 pm
STEVE
Unless you’re already bald and don’t have any testicles, I’d suggest you not tangle with getalife. He’s got some good friends in his corner
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Really? Get started his nonsensical stalking stuff sht on me one day and I told him to stop or I’d put him on scroll by. I asked him 4 or 5 times. He didn’t stop and I haven’t read a thing he’s written since. I have no time for stupid crap.
Fred ™
August 26th, 2012
7:10 pm
Mick: They do the same doom and gloom thing here just about anytime there are going to be more than 4 rain drops or God forbid, a flake of snow………
josef
August 26th, 2012
7:12 pm
FRED
Well, the boy do have issues, no doubt!
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 26th, 2012
7:12 pm
josef – “Unless you’re already bald and don’t have any testicles, I’d suggest you not tangle with getalife. He’s got some good friends in his corner…”
When you need people to help you it’s not a good sign.