Huckabee exposes hypocrisy of GOP leaders on abortion

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Mike Huckabee, perhaps the most prominent leader of the GOP’s evangelical wing, has come out strongly in defense of U.S. Rep. Todd Akin, the party’s nominee for U.S. Senate in Missouri. Here’s a portion of the email that Huckabee sent out to his followers:

The Party’s leaders have for reasons that aren’t rational, left (Akin) behind on the political battlefield, wounded and bleeding, a casualty of his self-inflicted, but not intentional wound. In a Party that supposedly stands for life, it was tragic to see the carefully orchestrated and systematic attack on a fellow Republican. Not for a moral failure or corruption or a criminal act, but for a misstatement which he contritely and utterly repudiated.

I was shocked by GOP leaders and elected officials who rushed so quickly to end the political life of a candidate over a mistaken comment in an interview. This was a serious mistake, but it was blown out of proportion not by the left, but by Akin’s own Republican Party. Is this what the party really thinks of principled pro-life advocates? Do we forgive and forget the verbal gaffes of Republicans who are “conveniently pro-life” for political advantage, but crucify one who truly believes that every life is sacred?

Who ordered this “Code Red” on Akin? There were talking point memos sent from the National Republican Senatorial Committee suggesting language to urge Akin to drop out. Political consultants were ordered to stay away from Akin or lose future business with GOP committees. Operatives were recruited to set up a network of pastors to call Akin to urge him to get out. Money has changed hands to push him off the plank. It is disgraceful.

From the spotlights of political offices and media perches, it may appear that the demand for Akin’s head is universal in the party. I assure you it is not. There is a vast, but mostly quiet army of people who have an innate sense of fairness and don’t like to see a fellow political pilgrim bullied. If Todd Akin loses the Senate seat, I will not blame Todd Akin. He made his mistake, but was man enough to admit it and apologize. I’m waiting for the apology from whoever the genius was on the high pedestals of our party who thought it wise to not only shoot our wounded, but run over him with tanks and trucks and then feed his body to the liberal wolves. It wasn’t just Todd Akin that was treated with contempt by the thinly veiled attack on Todd Akin. It was all the people who have faithfully knocked doors, made calls, and made sacrificial contributions to elect Republicans because we thought we were welcome in the party. Todd Akin owned his mistake. Who will step up and admit the effort being made to discredit Akin and apologize for the sleazy way it’s been handled?

Without in any way minimizing Akin’s rhetoric, there’s a lot of truth in Huckabee’s screed. The congressman’s position on rape and abortion is not by any means out of line with that of the Republican Party mainstream. The 2012 party platform calls for a ban on abortion, with no provision for exceptions in cases of rape and incest. It also calls for recognition in law that human life begins at the moment of conception, a position that precludes the right to choose for rape and incest victims.

As Huckabee understands, Akin is being ostracized by his party not for what he believes, but for stating what he believes too bluntly, and for calling attention to things that party elders want to keep hidden. It is telling, for instance, that Mitt Romney’s campaign is refusing to allow reporters to interview him unless they agree beforehand not to ask questions about abortion.

The GOP establishment wants the loyalty of the pro-life movement without the political baggage that comes with it among the general public. And it is bitterly angry with Akin because he has made it difficult to achieve those contradictory goals.

– Jay Bookman

632 comments Add your comment

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 24th, 2012
11:02 am

As Huckabee understands, Akin is being ostracized by his party not for what he believes, but for stating what he believes too bluntly

Actually Akin is being ostracized by his party for what the Republican Party claims is its platform… but you are correct, the GOP has met another pitard.

Madge From Accounting

August 24th, 2012
11:03 am

As Huckabee understands, Akin is being ostracized by his party not for what he believes, but for stating what he believes too bluntly, and for calling attention to things that party elders want to keep hidden.

Well Jay — it’s not the dog with the bone, it’s the dong with the bong. IOW — NOTHING republicans say, do or relate makes any damn sense so what’s the difference?

It is telling, for instance, that Mitt Romney’s campaign is refusing to allow reporters to interview him unless they agree beforehand not to ask questions about abortion.

then if they were actually CREDIBLE journalists, then they wouldn’t interview him. If all the journalists stick together, (not FAux news — there aren’t any real journalists there); then i’d bet his campaign management team would change their minds really quick. THEY need those interviews more than those journalists do.

Madge From Accounting

August 24th, 2012
11:04 am

oh heck! Jam beat me to being #1 again!! Boooo! Boooo!!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 24th, 2012
11:09 am

A Republican running for county sheriff in New Hampshire is facing calls to leave the race after he suggested it is acceptable to use deadly force to stop a doctor from performing an abortion…Sentiments like Szabo’s set a dangerous precedent. He is not alone in thinking that doctors should be blocked from providing legal abortion services — Republicans have proposed several bills that would create penalties for abortion providers — but his statements appear to a violent anger. Doctors have actually been killed, hurt, and stalked by anti-abortion advocates.

East Lake Ira

August 24th, 2012
11:10 am

Huck is just trying to establish his place in the talk show pecking order. He want’s to supplant Rush but he’ll end up lumped in with the second and third tier like Boortz, Levin and Liddy.

Madge From Accounting

August 24th, 2012
11:12 am

Since I was ALMOST first before Jam hit that “submit comment” button; I would like to ahead and accept my purity pledge pin from the establishment:

I pledge — to always love the fetus and hate the child
I pledge — to use code words when speaking about Obama. I’ll call him names like “uppity” and “naive” every chance I get. My master mentors Rush and the other fat boy — serial cheating wife dumper, showed me how to do it.

I pledge to deny that there is any Jim Crowe. However, i will also pledge to NEVER tell that there IS a James Crowe Esquire.

I pledge to be a willing soldier to the cult of Repuglicanism by marching against all things that are good for me and my country.

I pledge to decry things like – equal pay for equal work; sex education in schools; and any school teachings that don’t relate to the bible. Things like history, mathmatics, science, (especially science); and high school gym are ALL symbols of demonic intervention.

I am a Repuglican. I pledge to be stoooopid and ill informed all the days of my life.

Amen.

Jay

August 24th, 2012
11:13 am

Ira, I give Huckabee credit for sincerity on this, and actually on a lot of things. I think he’s sincerely wrong and in some cases — Israel comes to mind — sincerely foolish on many policy questions, but for the most part I think he’s honest. More so than most politicians, anyway.

Fearful!

August 24th, 2012
11:13 am

The party needs to own up to Mitt or Mitt needs to own up to the party. Mitt Romeny is the leader now of the party – he can change their platform if he chooses. The fact that he has not, speaks volumes and I hope all woman are listening.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 24th, 2012
11:15 am

Madge, I am not Jam.

Brosephus™

August 24th, 2012
11:15 am

Without in any way minimizing Akin’s rhetoric, there’s a lot of truth in Huckabee’s screed.

Just goes to show that the only politician that will speak the truth is the one not asking for your vote. Look at Jeb Bush, GHW Bush, and others who have spoken out with statements that run counter to what the GOP puts out.

JamVet

August 24th, 2012
11:16 am

The 2012 party platform calls for a ban on abortion, with no provision for exceptions in cases of rape and incest. It also calls for recognition in law that human life begins at the moment of conception, a position that precludes the right to choose for rape and incest victims.

And yet people will vote for this horrific political crime ring whose very ideology is defined by “leaders” (and voters) with poisoned hearts and feeble minds.

Or more tersely, stuck on stupid…

Get me Rex Kramer

August 24th, 2012
11:16 am

Jay just like the centrist dems, we moderate republicans must deal with the more radical members of our party. You are wrong if you think that the majority of republicans agree on opposing abortions in case of rape or incest. Most moderate republicans, of which I consider myself a part of, don’t share Akin’s views on this matter. I used to lean pro-choice, but that is harder for me to do now that I am raising two young sons. Your perpective tends to change when you get older and become a parent.

By the way, where is the criticism from you on the dems who also voted yes on Akins bill in the house? It isn’t just republicans that share Akins point of view.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

August 24th, 2012
11:16 am

The fact is, they see women as second-class citizens:

Paul Weyrich: “I believe that if you have to choose between new life and existing life, you should choose new life. The person who has had an opportunity to live at least has been given that gift by God and should make way for new life on earth.”

Madge From Accounting

August 24th, 2012
11:16 am

Doctors have actually been killed, hurt, and stalked by anti-abortion advocates

And yet these same warriors for Christ who believe so strongly in biblical teachings; forgot that part that said, “Thou Shalt Not Kill” and replaced it with:

“Thou killest only peoplest that thouest party sayest to killeth”.

Amen.

JamVet

August 24th, 2012
11:16 am

My last post was kind of bold, huh?

LOL…

East Lake Ira

August 24th, 2012
11:17 am

Jay – Don’t doubt the sincerity either – he is wacky. The only reason this is getting any play is due to Huck’s new talk show. Were he just a talking head on FOX or CNN, he’d be lambasted and then ignored.

Brosephus™

August 24th, 2012
11:18 am

You are wrong if you think that the majority of republicans agree on opposing abortions in case of rape or incest. Most moderate republicans, of which I consider myself a part of, don’t share Akin’s views on this matter.

Your continued and unwaivering support for a party platform that puts those messages out is a complicit agreement with those principles. If you are true about your convictions, you won’t support those who don’t share your convictions.

Fearful!

August 24th, 2012
11:18 am

I’m so disappointed I have to be on a flight to Buffalo and will miss FNM. It is something I have come to really enjoy, sitting on my porch with a glass of wine while my dog looks at me like I’m crazy! Whoever is this week’s author, I’ll try to pick it up while having my beef on wick, and glass of wine. :) Until then, keep up the fight, we have to win THIS election.

Jay

August 24th, 2012
11:19 am

Rex, I’m sure that moderate Republicans don’t share that belief.

Now … how much power do moderate Republicans wield in your party these days? Who in public life is even willing to admit being a moderate Republican?

Madge From Accounting

August 24th, 2012
11:19 am

Oh Keep I’m so sorry — you and Jam look so much alike! It must be the way you both do your hair or something.

My bad. :oops:

Fly-On-The-Wall

August 24th, 2012
11:20 am

Not sure how an earlier post got lost but here’s a second try.

The Republican Party is now a part of faith. They do not use human reasoning to make decisions, they use only their faith. This is a very dangerous path for our nation to be on because we will end up being no better (or even worse) then those groups in the Middle East that are regularly condemned by these same religious types.

H. G. Pennypacker

August 24th, 2012
11:21 am

Yet another topic that Romney feels is better discussed in a quiet room.

JamVet

August 24th, 2012
11:22 am

Hey, Madge! At this point in my life, I’m just glad to still have a full head of hair…

Too bad I missed all of the neocon nonsense downstairs.

Talk about a self-destructive lot…

Freedom Riders 2012

August 24th, 2012
11:22 am

What WAR on women?

Bernie

August 24th, 2012
11:23 am

You Gotta Love The Republicans! when they Crash and Burn……they Burn Baby!

These are the 1950’s republicans, throwing a Hissy Fit and there is nothing the RNC can do! :) I’d prefer just to sit and watch. This group of Republicans Love the Fetus but Hate the child. To them, there is difference in RAPE! Believe me, on that one.

They are just speaking the mind, of what the majority believe, but too afraid to say it public ally. The ones who do not believe in such nonsense are the rich and the educated. They know better! Unfortunately, that group has the smallest number of supporters. What that Group does have is , Ironically, it has the greatest power of persuasion……MONEY!

So its going to take some time to work a few issues out. Meanwhile, the President will continue with the punching away at the Lies that are being hurled by ” The PROUD ONE.”

Aquagirl

August 24th, 2012
11:23 am

You are wrong if you think that the majority of republicans agree on opposing abortions in case of rape or incest.

However you can’t be arsed to do something when they put a total ban in the party platform, or make all abortion unavailable by various laws.

Own your crazies, Rex. This we-don’t-believe-in-what-they’re-doing crap is the last refuge of scoundrels. Or the highly impotent, take your pick.

Get me Rex Kramer

August 24th, 2012
11:23 am

USinUK – pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

That is a ridiculous comment that they view women as second class citizens. Who is they? Would you like it if the democratic party were lumped into the same category as say our own famous former congress woman Cynthia McKinney???

ty webb

August 24th, 2012
11:23 am

“Who in public life is even willing to admit being a moderate Republican?”

scott brown.

Brosephus™

August 24th, 2012
11:23 am

Who in public life is even willing to admit being a moderate Republican?

Bosch’s Goddesses. :)

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

August 24th, 2012
11:23 am

I dunno, but it seems to this sailor that the GOP ship is breaking itself up on its ideological shoals…I would say “women and children to the lifeboats first”, but they don’t think that way…

TBone

August 24th, 2012
11:23 am

Hypocrisy? SO the democrats have cornered the market on hypocrisy? If anyone out there has never said one thing and done another, stand up and be counted. Otherwise accept the fact that we are pretty much all hypocrites.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

August 24th, 2012
11:24 am

“That is a ridiculous comment that they view women as second class citizens. Who is they? ”

who is THEY???

I suggest you look at your party platform – THEY is anyone who supports THAT

CJ

August 24th, 2012
11:24 am

The congressman’s position on rape and abortion is not by any means out of line with that of the Republican Party mainstream.

The congressman’s position on rape and abortion is not by any means out of line with that of Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan.

Romney has said that he “absolutely” supports a personhood amendment with would allow legislation without exceptions for rape, incest, or life/health of the mother. Such an amendment would also allow legislation banning IVF and certain forms of contraception. (Actually, like most issues, Romney has taken both sides of this issue as well–one side for his Republican base and another side for everybody else. Inexplicably, many in the mainstream press seem to be taking his word on the more moderate approach and ignoring his words declaring his more “severely conservative” approach.)

On the other hand, when pressed, Paul Ryan admits that he doesn’t want abortion exceptions of any kind. However, he argues that his position on this issue don’t matter because, well, it’s not has if he’s running for President. http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/08/24/13456027-oops-ryan-did-it-again?lite

Madge From Accounting

August 24th, 2012
11:25 am

By the way, where is the criticism from you on the dems who also voted yes on Akins bill in the house? It isn’t just republicans that share Akins point of view.

Please name them! I’d like to start a “Don’t re-elect Neanderthals” voting drive.

It’s for the good of the country.

Amen.

Bernie

August 24th, 2012
11:25 am

Madge From Accounting @ 11:12 am – That was GREAT! :) BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!

Get me Rex Kramer

August 24th, 2012
11:26 am

I will own my crazies when you own yours aqua girl. Just because people vote republican does not mean we blidly follow what some people want to say is the offical platform.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

August 24th, 2012
11:26 am

THEY are anyone who support THIS:

THE SANCTITY AND DIGNITY OF HUMAN LIFEFaithful to the “self-evident” truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children.

so, let’s forget about the WOMAN’S Rights … the right of the FETUS supercede it

Freedom Riders 1961

August 24th, 2012
11:26 am

ty webb

August 24th, 2012
11:26 am

yeah, they hate women so much, their trying to keep all future women from being aborted…nice.

Brosephus™

August 24th, 2012
11:29 am

Just because people vote republican does not mean we blidly follow what some people want to say is the offical platform.

If you’re voting for a candidate, that vote is an agreement with that person’s principles, whether you think it is or not. It doesn’t matter if it’s a Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, or Green Party candidate. Who votes for someone with whom they disagree with?

the cat

August 24th, 2012
11:30 am

If the following doesn’t scare one I’m not sure what will:

But, he adds, his perspective isn’t terribly important, because he’d only be vice president, and Romney isn’t inclined to be as extreme as Ryan is. It’s not like vice presidents ever get elevated to the presidency, right? (Nine of the nation’s 44 chief executives were vice presidents who got elevated to the presidency during their term.)

Here’s a follow-up question for those with access to Ryan: if tragedy were to strike and you became president at some point during the next four years, how would you intend to shape policy to force rape victims to take their pregnancies to term?
.

Joe Hussein Mama

August 24th, 2012
11:30 am

Dear Governor Huckabee –

Here’s what you don’t understand. Your pet issue is a loser for the Republican Party. Your fellow party members know this, and that’s why they’ve cast Akin out.

Your party will never win with a total ban on abortion as one of its planks. I’m sorry if that troubles you, but that’s just the way it is.

Love,

Joe H. Mama

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

August 24th, 2012
11:30 am

“yeah, they hate women so much, their trying to keep all future women from being aborted…nice.”

Bollocks.

they hate women so much, they’re treating us like brood mares – FORCING people to stay pregnant if raped (even by a family member)

bitching and moaning about how women should take more personal responsibility and take birth control, then doing all they can to throw up every barrier to THAT as possible

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...

August 24th, 2012
11:31 am

Regardless of his honesty on his stone-age postion on abortion..it seems to me that there is no way a constitutional amendment will be passed the majority of states to change this….that’s a good thing as I think this issue gets too much attention similar to stumbling verbiage and gay marriage…

I think we should eliminate the tax favored situation with the church…they seem to be using the savings to support cro-magna positions…

H. G. Pennypacker

August 24th, 2012
11:31 am

Akin picked up much of his rudimentary misunderstanding of medical science from the teachings of Jack Willke, (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9493653/US-election-Mitt-Romney-met-Todd-Akin-doctor-John-Willke-during-2012-campaign.html). As one can read from this link, Gov. Romney met with and received the endorsement from this same Doctor. If the Governor really found Akin’s beliefs to be wrong, should he not disavow Dr. Willke’s endorsement?

What a tangled web we weave……

Skip

August 24th, 2012
11:32 am

I’m a moderate Republican, that’s why I vote Democrat.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...

August 24th, 2012
11:32 am

BRO,

Disagree…do you agree with 100% of either parties agenda’s? Am I misunderstanding your post?

F. Sinkwich

August 24th, 2012
11:33 am

Jay continues the DNC meme…

In support of its messaging effort, today’s dead tree version of the AJC fell in line.

Did ya know that the Mittster had a policy speech on energy yesterday? Well, the AJC was happy to publish an article about it on page A3. Included therein, an article about energy mind you, were no fewer than four references to abortion.

In an effort at balance, the headline of the article below was, “Olens: Abortion plank not extreme.”

Lol.

Jay, please check your DNC messaging calendar for me. When does the “Mormonism is a Cult” campaign begin?

Thanks.

Get Real

August 24th, 2012
11:33 am

Give it a rest Jay….good thing you are not focused on the economy and unemployment that are totally in the tank….nice try at vectoring off the real issues…intelligent folks are not biting..

Joe Hussein Mama

August 24th, 2012
11:33 am

Fearful — “I’m so disappointed I have to be on a flight to Buffalo”

Oh, I completely sympathize. I’m disappointed for you too. :D

the cat

August 24th, 2012
11:33 am

I am absolutely for any house of “faith” to lose their tax free status especially the ones with politics in the pulpit.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

August 24th, 2012
11:33 am

“As one can read from this link, Gov. Romney met with and received the endorsement from this same Doctor. If the Governor really found Akin’s beliefs to be wrong, should he not disavow Dr. Willke’s endorsement?”

forget that … Ryan looks at Romney’s “no abortion unless in the case of rape and incest” as A GOOD FIRST STEP

Madge From Accounting

August 24th, 2012
11:33 am

The fact is, they see women as second-class citizens

A woman IS a second class citizen! I the bible, Eve didn’t even get her own ribs when God created her — she just got an old worn out used one that Adam had lying around and didn’t need. If that’s not 2nd class then what is? Duh!
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Jam — have no fear You’re still cute though; that’s all that matters!
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That is a ridiculous comment that they view women as second class citizens. Who is they? ”

They is YOU. Hope that clears everything up.
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Would you like it if the democratic party were lumped into the same category as say our own famous former congress woman Cynthia McKinney???

Well, not to be funny or anything (smirk); but i bet cynthia knew where babies came from. HINT: The answer is not from the cabbage patch of absolute idiocy. OR under the drawbridge of ridiculousness.

Amen.

Thomas Heyward Jr

August 24th, 2012
11:34 am

“Huckabee exposes hypocrisy of GOP leaders on abortion”
.
No comment from Drone-Dawg Obama on Civil Liberties.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...

August 24th, 2012
11:35 am

TBONE,

Its funny how in all aspects of life just how much time and energy goes to pointing out the hypocrisy in others….Too bad it’s no ok to make mistakes or, upon further thought, change your position..

Joe Hussein Mama

August 24th, 2012
11:35 am

Tbone — “Hypocrisy? SO the democrats have cornered the market on hypocrisy? If anyone out there has never said one thing and done another, stand up and be counted. Otherwise accept the fact that we are pretty much all hypocrites.”

Perhaps the most distilled instance of Tu Quoque I have ever seen on this blog.

CJ

August 24th, 2012
11:35 am

Did ya know that the Mittster had a policy speech on energy yesterday?

I’m familiar with that speech. I’ll summarize here for those who missed it–

“Drill, baby, drill!”

the cat

August 24th, 2012
11:36 am

F. sink-most intelligent folks get their news from more than one source. Try it sometime.

F. Sinkwich

August 24th, 2012
11:33 am
Jay continues the DNC meme…

In support of its messaging effort, today’s dead tree version of the AJC fell in line.

Did ya know that the Mittster had a policy speech on energy yesterday? Well, the AJC was happy to publish an article about it on page A3. Included therein, an article about energy mind you, were no fewer than four references to abortion.

In an effort at balance, the headline of the article below was, “Olens: Abortion plank not extreme.”

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...

August 24th, 2012
11:37 am

MADGE,

What does the bible have to do with this? Anyhow, the good news is, as I learned on Colbert (oddly), the women are now primary providers in more families than not….they should make the decision on abortion with men having no say whatsoever..

Stonethrower

August 24th, 2012
11:38 am

If you want a view of the real one issue (anti-abortion) Repubican party, come to the state of Kansas west of Lawrence!

Get me Rex Kramer

August 24th, 2012
11:38 am

Jay, thanks for acknowledging that not all GOP members take the same view on this. The problem is that both parties are being controlled by members who are either far left or far right. If you had enough moderate dems and republicans in congress, then I truly believe things could get done. If you put Bill Clinton and George Bush in a room together, I think we would all be surprised how much they could agree on and accomplish.

Get me Rex Kramer

August 24th, 2012
11:38 am

Jay, thanks for acknowledging that not all GOP members take the same view on this. The problem is that both parties are being controlled by members who are either far left or far right. If you had enough moderate dems and republicans in congress, then I truly believe things could get done. If you put Bill Clinton and George Bush in a room together, I think we would all be surprised how much they could agree on and accomplish.

barking frog

August 24th, 2012
11:39 am

Huckabee would have been
a better pick for VP than
Ryan but if the religious
right does not respond to
R/R they are over. Huckabee
can split the party. He may
like the Baptist Obama and
stay home.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...

August 24th, 2012
11:39 am

JOE,

Great word…had to go to the dictionary for that Tu Quoque…I was wondering what croque had to do with this..

ghostcommander

August 24th, 2012
11:40 am

Why has Huckabee become such a big time hypocrite, demagogue, and Lunatic? Is he still a preacher?
Is this Huckabee speaking or is it a contributor to Fox Fraudcasting?

Todd “Legitimate rape” Akin deserves no support from anyone. What is wrong with these Zombies that still support him?
Are these supporters dishonorable men that have no respect for their mother, wife, or daughter?

ty webb

August 24th, 2012
11:40 am

UsinUk,
no, it’s much deeper than that. There are deep philosophical differences between when life is created and what rights to which that life should be afforded. I am “pro abortion”(should be legal and a choice afforded to all women), but I can certainly respect the other sides’ philosophical differences. The “pro-life/anti abortion” side is arguing for the rights of all “lifes” as they see it. I can respect that and disagree with it at the same side.

Aquagirl

August 24th, 2012
11:41 am

Just because people vote republican does not mean we blidly follow what some people want to say is the offical platform.

Honey, the people “saying” that’s in the platform are REPUBLICANS.

You are a typical Republican, perfectly aware people are getting screwed over, but completely unconcerned because it’s not you. Saying “mm-hmm, I don’t agree with that” makes it magically all better.

Bad news, Rex, people smell that stink coming off your party. Latinos, women, pretty much everybody but the shrinking little demographic pool of angry white guys. We don’t live in the world in your head, where your magical intentions reside.

Adam

August 24th, 2012
11:42 am

Who in public life is even willing to admit being a moderate Republican?

Re-quoted and re-asked. I want to know the answer to this.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

August 24th, 2012
11:42 am

A Few Good Republicans

Rove: You want answers
Huckabee: I want the truth
Rove: You want the truth, you can’t handle the truth
Rove: We live in a world ….. yada yada yada
Huckabee: Did you order the code red
Rove: You’re damn straight I did

Steve Shamrock

August 24th, 2012
11:42 am

Romney and Ryan have made it quite clear that Akin’s views are reprehensible and unacceptable.

Huckabee is a talk show host.

Have Obama/Biden denounced the “putting you people back in chains” comment. No. Hypocritical.

Has Obama returned the $1 million donation from that scumbag Bill Maher (also a talk show host)? No. What a joke.

Jefferson

August 24th, 2012
11:43 am

They can’t run their own lives or the gov’t . The GOP is poor use of air.

the cat

August 24th, 2012
11:43 am

I can’t stand the term pro-abortion. It is pro-choice! If you don’t have a uterus, it is none of your damn business what I choose to do with mine.

Pro-choice!!!

Joe Hussein Mama

August 24th, 2012
11:43 am

Stonethrower — “If you want a view of the real one issue (anti-abortion) Repubican party, come to the state of Kansas west of Lawrence!”

No thanks. I did a consulting gig in Kansas City for the better part of a year in 2000 and 2001, and I got an earful of what passes for political discussion out there.

And yes, I was out there for the Carnahan dust-up, wherein the good people of Missouri elected a dead man to the US Senate rather than choose John Ashcroft.

Joe Hussein Mama

August 24th, 2012
11:44 am

S. Ray — “I was wondering what croque had to do with this..”

Mmm, Croque-Monsieur. And it’s lunchtime! Wonder where I can get one around here?

the cat

August 24th, 2012
11:44 am

Romney and Ryan have made it quite clear that Akin’s views are reprehensible and unacceptable

Lie.

DannyX

August 24th, 2012
11:44 am

Everyone knows that a woman’s reproductive organs are just a series of tubes.

When a woman becomes the victim of a legitimate rape the body produces aspirin naturally which is then is pushed through the series of tubes and she won’t become pregnant.

Brosephus™

August 24th, 2012
11:44 am

do you agree with 100% of either parties agenda’s? Am I misunderstanding your post?

No, but I also acknowledge that when I vote for someone, that is a signal that I agree with what he/she stands for. Even if it’s something that I personally don’t believe. Most votes for me are a “lesser of two evils” choice.

barking frog

August 24th, 2012
11:45 am

Adam
August 24th, 2012
11:42 am
Who in public life is even
willing to admit being a
moderate Republican?
Re-quoted and re-asked. I
want to know the answer to
this.
…………
Jay Bookman. He voted for
Romney.

Simple Truths

August 24th, 2012
11:45 am

And Jay’s streak of slamming the GOP ends at 0 days in a row.

getalife

August 24th, 2012
11:45 am

gop leaders?

There are no gop leaders.

Adam

August 24th, 2012
11:46 am

ty: The “pro-life/anti abortion” side is arguing for the rights of all “lifes” as they see it.

True. Where things get sticky is the idea that the metaphysical concept of life (tied to the concept of a soul) is conflated with the scientific definition, which gives that attribute to amoebas, fungus, plants, and most human tissue cells. Science doesn’t prove life begins at conception, but I actually saw an ad that said science DID prove that. In fact, if you look at the scientific definition of life, and want to make sure nothing that fits that definition gets killed, then you cannot eat any animals, any plants, any fungus, and you can’t kill bacteria with soap or Lysol. Of course then you run into a conundrum, because you cannot survive without eating either a plant based or animal based life form.

stands for decibels (SfBA)

August 24th, 2012
11:46 am

Ok, I gotta go there–

Do we forgive and forget the verbal gaffes of Republicans who are “conveniently pro-life” for political advantage, but crucify one who truly believes that every life is sacred?

speaking of hypocrisy, Mike:

“I believe there is a place for a death penalty.”

Not quite EVERY life is “sacred” to Huck, apparently.

snoqualmiefalls

August 24th, 2012
11:46 am

“Mark my words, if and when these preachers get a hold of the Party,and they are sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me,politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of G-D so they can’t or won’t compromise. I know I have tried to deal with them” 1994 AU H20… for the kids out there that was a quote from Barry Goldwater.

Get Real

August 24th, 2012
11:46 am

I can’t stand the term pro-abortion. It is pro-choice! If you don’t have a uterus, it is none of your damn business what I choose to do with mine.

Pro-choice!!!

It is what it is…

Simple Truths

August 24th, 2012
11:47 am

“just a series of tubes”

Sort of like the internet.

Adam

August 24th, 2012
11:47 am

Steve Shamrock: Romney and Ryan have made it quite clear that Akin’s views are reprehensible and unacceptable.

Actually Ryan has said he only supports Romney’s plan to have exceptions included because “it’s a step in the right direction.”

ty webb

August 24th, 2012
11:47 am

and the “pro life” side probably hates the term “pro choice’ because the life being aborted has no “choice”…both sides equally choose labels that put their side in a good light and demonizes the other…!!!(triple exclamation points mean what exactly?)

H. G. Pennypacker

August 24th, 2012
11:47 am

Steve Shamrock……I must have missed the part about Bill Maher getting a speaking slot at the Democratic convention. Nice false equivalency

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

August 24th, 2012
11:47 am

” There are deep philosophical differences between when life is created and what rights to which that life should be afforded. I am “pro abortion”(should be legal and a choice afforded to all women), but I can certainly respect the other sides’ philosophical differences. The “pro-life/anti abortion” side is arguing for the rights of all “lifes” as they see it. I can respect that and disagree with it at the same side.”

hey – they can believe whatever they want … what I have a problem with is that they are inflicting that BELIEF on me, my friends, my neices, etc

ken

August 24th, 2012
11:47 am

To hell with the abortion subject. People want JOBS. Can’t you pick a better subject Jay ?

DannyX

August 24th, 2012
11:48 am

“Sort of like the internet.”

Yes, Republican science.

Madge From Accounting

August 24th, 2012
11:48 am

Romney has said that he “absolutely” supports a personhood amendment with would allow legislation without exceptions for rape, incest, or life/health of the mother

In repuglicanspeak that means:

I support all that UNLESS its MY daughter who gets knocked up. Then all bets are off.

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Give it a rest Jay….good thing you are not focused on the economy and unemployment that are totally in the tank….

Yes he’s correct! Unlike our Republican dominated Congress, who BTW, worked LESS thanthe Dem congress before them; who campaigned on Jobs, Jobs, JOBS!! And who hasn’t delivered anything yet; JAY should be focusing on those things. PS: Is your republican GOVERNOR focusing on jobs? Or do you expect the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to nanny state you to death?
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Did ya know that the Mittster had a policy speech on energy yesterday? Well, the AJC was happy to publish an article about it on page A3.

Stinkywitch – When you become Editor of ANY newspaper, magazine, S&M Manual; gun lobby pamphlet or whatevah…..THEN you can put what you want wherever you want it in your paper. Deal?

getalife

August 24th, 2012
11:48 am

Weak, wishy washy, mushy, pathetic gop.

Have you ever seem the gop so weak?

getalife

August 24th, 2012
11:49 am

Paul

August 24th, 2012
11:50 am

Enter your comments here

independent thinker

August 24th, 2012
11:50 am

GOP convention will end in chaos if anyone of the following occurs:
1. Hurricane Isaac hits (second time in four years – is there a message here?)
2. Somebody leaks Romneys tax returns and we see he has been lying and cheating as expected;
3. Ron Paul decides to run as an independent after speaking to the convention;
4. Todd Aiken shows up with Mike Huckabee ;
5.Joe Biden makes good on his threat to attend (hopefully with chains for women and minority protesters)

In addition to above cataclysmic possibilities, the investment world is putting their money on Obama:
“”"”"”"”"There are two established predictive markets where speculators can directly bet on the outcome of the 2012 election: Intrade.com and Iowa Electronic Markets. InTrade is the newer of the two, having opened in 2002. Intrade is an open exchange that offers participants the opportunity to buy and sell shares among each other (like a stock market) on a particular event. The event settles at $10 or $0 share.For example, if you buy an Obama share selling at $5, you’ll be paid $10 and profit $5 if he wins the election. Should Obama lose, you’d lose your $5 investment.

So who do speculators favor in the November presidential election???????????Barack Obama.

Speculators on the IEM, which has accurately predicted each presidential election since 1988, are especially bullish on Obama’s prospects. Contracts on Obama are trading at $0.62 each, compared to $0.38 for Romney. “”"”"”"”"”"”"

And these are conservative investors folks.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

August 24th, 2012
11:50 am

But Al Dore invented that series of tubes. Are the Republicans now taking credit for that?

barking frog

August 24th, 2012
11:50 am

Legin

August 24th, 2012
11:51 am

If I were,a journalist, I would agree to interview Romney/Ryan on their no abortion terms and then in the middle of the interview ask them – on tape – why it is they are refusing to talk about that issue. Their reactions alone should be worth capturing.

Steve Shamrock

August 24th, 2012
11:51 am

Penny…how much has Huckabee donated to Romney’s election? Not $1 million dollars.

Nice reverse extrapolation double one sided arguement.