Young illegal immigrants grab eagerly at hope of staying here
The executive order by President Obama delaying deportation of young immigrants who were brought here illegally by their parents took effect Wednesday, with tens thousands of eligible immigrants around the country lining up for as much as a mile to apply for the right to stay.
Applicants, most of whom have grown up in this country and consider it home, must be 30 or younger as of June 15, 2012 and be in school, have graduated from an American high school or have enlisted in the U.S. military. There is a $465 fee for applying for the two-year deferral.
If successful, applicants would be given work permits. However, the program does not include a path to citizenship or permanent legal status. The two-year renewable deferral would presumably end much more quickly if Mitt Romney, who has opposed the order, replaces Obama in January.
In Chicago, U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin, sponsor of the stalled DREAM Act, spoke to a crowd of more than 10,000 lined up for applications. “You can’t stop this force,” the Illinois Democrat told the crowd. “This is a force of people who have grown up in this country and want to be part of its future. They are creating a moral force beyond a legal force.”
In recent polls, Obama’s lead over Romney among Hispanic voters has grown to 40 percentage points or more, and the selection of running mate Paul Ryan, a stern foe of the DREAM Act, is expected to expand that gap.
““There is no issue that is more alarming for the future national viability of the Republican Party than this one,” Steve Schmidt, who managed John McCain’s 2008 campaign, told Politico. “The precipitous drop in the support levels for Republicans is alarming because it indicates that more and more Hispanics are simply disqualifying from consideration anyone with an ‘R’ next to their name.”
– Jay Bookman
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Brosephus™ - 2012 Winner of the Firm Grasp of the Obvious Award©
August 16th, 2012
10:15 am
I haven’t seen anything yet, but I’m wondering if that 2 year deferral also comes with a waiver of past immigration violations. That will make a big difference in what happens after that 2 year period to those who get the deferrals.
larry
August 16th, 2012
10:17 am
Does your criminal record include past immigration violations? The deferrals are supposed to go to those who have no criminal record.
Thomas Heyward Jr.
August 16th, 2012
10:19 am
Step right up.
.
500 hunnerd dollars.
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500 hunnerd dollars.
Getch yer papers.
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This deal won’t last.
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How utterly ………………………………………………………………………base.
Cutty
August 16th, 2012
10:19 am
3rd!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
August 16th, 2012
10:20 am
What a wonderful thing this is!
How consumately American!
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I now officially forgive President Obama for not prioritizing the criminal investigations into the war crimes of the previous administration.
SwamiDave
August 16th, 2012
10:21 am
Unfortunate that thousands are lining up for miles and paying a fee for membership to a quasi-permanent underclass.
I wonder who else would pay for a time-constrained license to continue breaking the law?
-SD
Peadawg
August 16th, 2012
10:23 am
JOBS JOBS JOBS
….for illegals.
Jay
August 16th, 2012
10:24 am
Immigration violations are not a criminal matter, larry.
Doggone/GA
August 16th, 2012
10:24 am
“Unfortunate that thousands are lining up for miles and paying a fee for membership to a quasi-permanent underclass”
And just think! If they hadn’t paid they would have been a permanent underclass for free!
saywhat?
August 16th, 2012
10:25 am
SwamiDave
August 16th, 2012
10:21 am
Unfortunate that thousands are lining up for miles and paying a fee for membership to a quasi-permanent underclass.
I wonder who else would pay for a time-constrained license to continue breaking the law?
-SD
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The answer to your question is “Not Republicans”. They would insist on being paid to break the law, or at least be allowed to do it for free.
Brosephus™ - 2012 Winner of the Firm Grasp of the Obvious Award©
August 16th, 2012
10:26 am
Does your criminal record include past immigration violations?
Immigration violations wouldn’t show up in a criminal record check. The only thing relating to immigration that would come up is if you’ve been previously apprehended, removed, or deported by the old INS or current CBP.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 16th, 2012
10:26 am
more Democrats, less unhinged cons
margarittas on me
RB from Gwinnett
August 16th, 2012
10:28 am
“Applicants, most of whom have grown up in this country and consider it home, must be 30 or younger as of June 15, 2012 and be in school, have graduated from an American high school or have enlisted in the U.S. military. ”
I’ll ask again, how can illegals serve in our military, but if my company hires them, I get fined?
Aquagirl
August 16th, 2012
10:28 am
JOBS JOBS JOBS
….for illegals.
Poor Pea…afraid you’re gonna have to mow your own lawn?
Peadawg
August 16th, 2012
10:30 am
“Poor Pea…afraid you’re gonna have to mow your own lawn?”
I love mowing my lawn. I use a push mower on 1+ acre and it’s a fantastic workout. Put on headphones and I’m good-to-go.
That’s stereotyping btw, Aquagirl.
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 16th, 2012
10:30 am
Immigration violations are not a criminal matter, larry.
but backward-ass states are trying their best to make it so, so the confusion is understandable.
TaxPayer
August 16th, 2012
10:32 am
They are creating a moral force beyond a legal force.
There’s that darned morality thingie again.
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 16th, 2012
10:32 am
Put on headphones and I’m good-to-go.
forgive the off-topic posting, but I have to ask–did you spring for active noise-canceling ‘phones, or do you do over-the-ear things or do you do like me and just have tightly sealed in-the-ear buds that you crank up louder than you probably should?
Brosephus™ - 2012 Winner of the Firm Grasp of the Obvious Award©
August 16th, 2012
10:32 am
larry
If they are not given a waiver of past immigration violations, they would still be subject to them when they try to enter the country again. Basically, if they give them temporary status here without waiving past immigration violations, they could be denied admission to the US if they left and attempted to come back legally. They could also be denied visas if they went back to apply for visas unless they applied for waivers.
I think they are going to be classified in the same manner as people from other countries who are given temporary protected status.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Protected_Status
During the period for which a country has been designated for TPS, TPS beneficiaries may remain in the United States and may obtain work authorization. However, TPS does not lead to permanent resident status (green card). When the Secretary terminates a TPS designation, beneficiaries revert to the same immigration status they maintained before TPS (unless that status had since expired or been terminated) or to any other status they may have acquired while registered for TPS. Accordingly, if an immigrant did not have lawful status prior to receiving TPS and did not obtain any other lawful status during the TPS designation, the immigrant reverts to unlawful status upon the termination of that TPS designation. TPS is not granted to persons that try to register after the first registration period ends, so if a person of a country that is currently under TPS did not register the first time TPS was assigned, then that person does not qualify for TPS.
After hearing the preliminary idea of how this will work, it sounds like they will get TPS for 2 years. TPS can be extended or pulled at any time.
Thomas Heyward Jr.
August 16th, 2012
10:33 am
“There is a $465 fee for applying for the two-year deferral”
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I read somewhere that HALF of that 495 dollars is a “convenience” fee.
Payable to Jon Corzine’s new Goldman Sach’s spin-off.
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Read the mice-type …my brown brothers ………………. you’ll find that this chedder is but a downpayment…………….and…………..Welcome to Amerika.
King of Everything
August 16th, 2012
10:33 am
“In recent polls, Obama’s lead over Romney among Hispanic voters has grown to 40 percentage points or more”
Voter ID – that will allow Gov. Romney to be the next President- DONE!
MoreRightthanLeft
August 16th, 2012
10:34 am
but is it “fair”
Peadawg
August 16th, 2012
10:34 am
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 16th, 2012
10:32 am
I prefer the i-pod headphones honestly. They just sit in my ear and I don’t even notice after a few minutes. And yeah it’s probably louder than it should be since I need to hear it over the lawn mower
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TaxPayer
August 16th, 2012
10:34 am
I wonder who else would pay for a time-constrained license to continue breaking the law?
Certain people with Swiss bank accounts perhaps.
MoreRightthanLeft
August 16th, 2012
10:35 am
you didnt…didnt build that…the illegals did
Verbal Kint
August 16th, 2012
10:35 am
St Simons – More democrats? I’m sure a majority of these illegals, as you indicate by your margarita comment, are ALL OUT for gay marriage. Sure….
ragnar danneskjold
August 16th, 2012
10:36 am
Don’t think Obama has a 40 point lead among Hispanics in Florida. Don’t think Romney is likely to endeavor to deport non-lawbreaking “iilegals.” That pap is on a par with the usual leftist “the republicans are going to put y’all back into chains.” If only Obama had accomplished something beneficial with his economic policies the leftists would not resort to such lies and name-calling.
Verbal Kint
August 16th, 2012
10:36 am
Taxpayer – Debbie Schultz has a Swiss bank account and she’s the DNC chair….guess that’s okay though cause she’s a democrat.
Brosephus™ - 2012 Winner of the Firm Grasp of the Obvious Award©
August 16th, 2012
10:36 am
“Immigration violations are not a criminal matter, larry.” <- Uh, what?
Exactly what he said. Immigration violations are a civil matter, not criminal.
Aquagirl
August 16th, 2012
10:37 am
That’s stereotyping btw, Aquagirl.
True, I just can’t resist the target known as “Peadawg” sometimes. The devil made me do it.
If you want to see some serious stereotyping, hang around on this thread for a while. But yeah, I shouldn’t get the ball rolling with my sarcasm.
MoreRightthanLeft
August 16th, 2012
10:37 am
@taxpayer
wasserman?
Butch Cassidy (I)
August 16th, 2012
10:37 am
RB – “how can illegals serve in our military, but if my company hires them, I get fined? ”
Because defending your country of residence with your life is a noble cause, using a group of people as a cost cutting measure to buy a new Escalade is not.
Peadawg
August 16th, 2012
10:37 am
“you didnt…didnt build that…the illegals did”
Shouldn’t that be “you didn’t mow that”?
Crap…sorry. I couldn’t help it.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
August 16th, 2012
10:37 am
These immigrants can stay but I do not believe they can vote. It is completely baffling as to why Republicans would risk alienating such a large voting block over this. But go ahead anyway. Fine with me if cons want to cut off their nose to spite their face.
Peadawg
August 16th, 2012
10:39 am
Lord I apologize for my 10:37. And be with the starving pigmies in New Guinea. Amen.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 16th, 2012
10:39 am
larry — “Does your criminal record include past immigration violations?”
I doubt it, because being undocumented isn’t a crime. It’s a violation, akin to a document offense like driving without your license on you.
MoreRightthanLeft
August 16th, 2012
10:39 am
@butch..
or…cost cutting because you run a business, duh…not ever business owner can afford an escalade..
Aquagirl
August 16th, 2012
10:40 am
And be with the starving pigmies in New Guinea.
Hey, isn’t that stereotyping?
Peadawg
August 16th, 2012
10:42 am
Seems like Obama’s more worried about giving out work permits to illegals and buying votes than making sure American citizens have jobs.
God Romney/Ryan sucks. Obama would have my vote in the bag if he just wouldn’t pull crap like this.
larry
August 16th, 2012
10:42 am
Okay, thank you Jay and Brosephus. I didnt know how the law worked.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 16th, 2012
10:43 am
RB — “I’ll ask again, how can illegals serve in our military, but if my company hires them, I get fined?”
Non-citizens can serve in our military; I personally served with several, including one Canadian who *retired* from the Army without ever becoming a US citizen. Whether or not they’re illegally here isn’t the Army’s concern — that’s ICE’s issue.
Brosephus™ - 2012 Winner of the Firm Grasp of the Obvious Award©
August 16th, 2012
10:43 am
It’s a violation, akin to a document offense like driving without your license on you.
The only difference is that a past immigration violation can result in you being found inadmissible or deportable when applying for admission to the country or for any immigration benefit.
Union
August 16th, 2012
10:43 am
most expensive vote buying ive seen by a democrat in a long time.. lol the upside is that it will cost all of us and not just some of us..
The Leg Lamp is a "Major Award"....
August 16th, 2012
10:43 am
It’s almost 10:45AM. What’s the latest gaffe from Joe the Biden?
Welcome to the Occupation
August 16th, 2012
10:43 am
Durbin was also heckled on the same day at another speech by shafted state pensioners.
Brosephus™ - 2012 Winner of the Firm Grasp of the Obvious Award©
August 16th, 2012
10:44 am
larry
I’ve come across people who have hired immigration lawyers who didn’t know how the law worked. It can get a bit complex depending on the situation.
The Leg Lamp is a "Major Award"....
August 16th, 2012
10:44 am
Maybe those illegals will take the “shovel ready jobs” Obama promised.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 16th, 2012
10:44 am
V. Kint — “Taxpayer – Debbie Schultz has a Swiss bank account and she’s the DNC chair….guess that’s okay though cause she’s a democrat.”
If she’s complied with US tax law in *disclosing* that account and its transactions, then what’s your grief about it?
Peter
August 16th, 2012
10:44 am
TaxPayer . Well did you look up the symbol I told you about last night ? The Fracking company that doesn’t use water ?
GSFVF ?
The Leg Lamp is a "Major Award"....
August 16th, 2012
10:45 am
Taking bets now…..will Joe the Biden be dumped for Hilary before or after Labor Day?
Brosephus™ - 2012 Winner of the Firm Grasp of the Obvious Award©
August 16th, 2012
10:46 am
“I’ll ask again, how can illegals serve in our military, but if my company hires them, I get fined?”
Ask your elected representatives. They are the ones who crafted and signed the laws that made it that way. You voted for it, and you got it. Guess you have to deal with it or vote for someone else to change it.
Jay
August 16th, 2012
10:46 am
Rags doesn’t believe that Romney “is likely to endeavor to deport non-law-breaking ‘iilegals.’”
So what does Romney himself say?
“Some people have asked if I will let stand the President’s executive action. The answer is that I will put in place my own long-term solution that will replace and supersede the President’s temporary measure. As President, I won’t settle for a stop-gap measure. I will work with Republicans and Democrats to find a long-term solution. I will prioritize measures that strengthen legal immigration and make it easier. And I will address the problem of illegal immigration in a civil but resolute manner.”
Asked to specify what that “long-term solution” might be, the Romney campaign has refused to answer. Yet another area in which he won’t come clean.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
August 16th, 2012
10:47 am
“5 hunnert” for a latino to have temporary papers ?
“50 million” for a few US House or Senate seats?
Which is the better value for the money and the nation?
Seen the Congressional approcal ratings….
They BOTH suck
August 16th, 2012
10:47 am
Rags
You have your little chest poked out again this morning.
I can see you smile when you say “leftist” as you look at your self in the mirror to increase your self esteem
Get em boy
Peter
August 16th, 2012
10:47 am
Funny the Republican’s don’t seem to like that Illegal aliens are being given a shot at living the American dream…….
I wonder how many Republican’s can trace their own heritage back to being an Indian……….cause we all were once Aliens in this country.
Steve Atl
August 16th, 2012
10:47 am
I feel bad for all of the people who are trying to do this legally and have now been pushed to the back of the line…great life lesson…break the law and get rewarded.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 16th, 2012
10:47 am
Well, I was thinking about looking for a young Mexican to clean up outside the trailer—you wouldn’t want to let one inside the trailer, of course.
This might make it easier to find one. They won’t run and hide now every time they see a cop car. Long as they know us born-in-the-USA rednecks are their betters, I’m OK with letting them stay a couple years before we dump them over the border.
Have a good Thursday everybody.
larry
August 16th, 2012
10:48 am
So your parents move you here, you grow up here , attend high school, graduate, go to college,earn your degree and all of a sudden you have to move because of what your parents did?
Move back to an unsafe country where you dont know anyone?
But what i would have done if i was the President would be , i would still grant the deferrals but i would also stress that they should start taking steps to become a full American citizen. Im hoping that is what these young people will do.
MoreRightthanLeft
August 16th, 2012
10:49 am
@Joe…did she release and comply? i read she didnt release any of her files and account info….i really dont know..im asking..
They BOTH suck
August 16th, 2012
10:49 am
Rags
Romney will be deporting illegals as quick as Bush did during the housing /construction bubble……….
Oh wait…… never mind
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 16th, 2012
10:49 am
no one here more than me, realizes the awful consquences
of a lax immigration policy
Peadawg
August 16th, 2012
10:49 am
Steve Atl
August 16th, 2012
10:47 am
Well said.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 16th, 2012
10:49 am
L. Lamp — “Maybe those illegals will take the “shovel ready jobs” Obama promised.”
Oh, if only there was a website where we could see where all those alleged ’shovel ready jobs’ were.
http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/RecoveryData/pages/RecipientReportedDataMap.aspx?ZipCode=30305&datasource=recipient
Verbal Kint
August 16th, 2012
10:50 am
“If she’s complied with US tax law in *disclosing* that account and its transactions, then what’s your grief about it?”
And Romney hasn’t disclosed his per US Tax law? Give me a break. You all are pissed because he hasn’t released any more information to the public. Frankly, I’m more concerned about how the gov’t SPENDS my tax dollars than what some rich guy paid in taxes.
jj
August 16th, 2012
10:50 am
Will these new “citizens’ be eligible for all US benefits, including unemployment? If they were all under the radar will they show up in the unemployment numbers now? Another 2+ million, 8.75% here we come.
The Leg Lamp is a "Major Award"....
August 16th, 2012
10:51 am
Hey, here’s an idea Obama is sure to love. We have Labor Day as a National Holiday, we have Memorial Day as a National Holiday, so why not have “Amnesty Day”? You know, once a year there is a holiday where any illegals can become U.S. Citizens. The liberals would think it’s “fair” and the rolls of democrat voters would swell.
Put Joe the Biden on it and it’s sure to get done.
Aquagirl
August 16th, 2012
10:52 am
Obama would have my vote in the bag if he just wouldn’t pull crap like this.
What exactly do you want Obama to do? Deport them all? That’s not gonna happen unless we spend a few hundred billion and use some serious police state tactics. Waiting for them to leave voluntarily isn’t gonna work either. They’ve grown up here and aren’t going back to a place that’s essentially a foreign country. The third choice is to leave them in a permanent legal limbo where they’re stuck mowing a lazy American’s lawn instead of inventing a cure for cancer.
Congress has kicked the can down the road on this repeatedly, it’s clear they’re not doing jack squat. I say good for Obama.
The Leg Lamp is a "Major Award"....
August 16th, 2012
10:53 am
Peter
August 16th, 2012
10:47 am
Kumbaya, Peter, Kumbaya……
Peter
August 16th, 2012
10:54 am
The Leg Lamp is a “Major Award”…. What is good for the Goose is not for the Gander you mean ?
larry
August 16th, 2012
10:54 am
You all are pissed because he hasn’t released any more information to the public.
If companies have a right to look at credit records as a basis for employment, the public has a right to look at his taxes.
Its all part of the background check. If he wanted privacy, he shouldnt have run for president.
Butch Cassidy (I)
August 16th, 2012
10:54 am
Leg – “Put Joe the Biden on it and it’s sure to get done.”
Geez man, obsess much? Bidens an idiot. Now, on to new business.
Jay
August 16th, 2012
10:54 am
“Debbie Schultz has a Swiss bank account and she’s the DNC chair….guess that’s okay though cause she’s a democrat.”
No, Verbal, she does not and did not have a Swiss bank account. Small parts of her 401k were invested in funds which in turn invested in Swiss banks, which is a very different thing. It’s like buying into mutual funds that then buy shares in Volkswagen, the Royal Bank of Canada, Sony or other foreign-based company. I would guess that a very large percentage of Americans with 401ks are probably invested in overseas companies and don’t even realize it.
Opening a bank account in foreign banks and depositing large sums of money there is quite another thing.
MoreRightthanLeft
August 16th, 2012
10:54 am
@ JAY.. always complaing you wanna see a plan from Romney, but its ok for your pres to show plans…that dont work…what worse? Can you really propose an honest plan if your not in office yet..Obama has lied or backtracked all of his pre presidential plans and ideas once he got in the office…Romney should and can be vague, because next year they will be calling him a liar and promise breaker if he doesnt deliver…just like promising jobs and 6% unemployment or cuting deficit in half first term…not sure which route i would want to take…blatantly lie to get in office or be more realistic
Brosephus™ - 2012 Winner of the Firm Grasp of the Obvious Award©
August 16th, 2012
10:55 am
I feel bad for all of the people who are trying to do this legally and have now been pushed to the back of the line…great life lesson…break the law and get rewarded.
How are they pushing anybody to the back of the line when they are not eligible for immigration benefits? They are simply getting employment authorization and temporary status. If they were eligible for any type of permanent immigration benefit, you might have a point. Since they are not eligible for any type of permanent immigration benefit, your point is sorely misguided.
The Leg Lamp is a "Major Award"....
August 16th, 2012
10:55 am
Peter
August 16th, 2012
10:54 am
We’re all A-LEE-UNS, Kumbaya, we’re all A-LEE-UNS, Kumbaya…..
Verbal Kint
August 16th, 2012
10:56 am
JB – “Yet another area in which he won’t come clean.”
Oh, and the president has a perfect record of coming clean on all the issues. What’s his plan on debt reduction? Oh that’s right, raising taxes on those making over $250K. Brilliant. That will pay for the ridiculous spending binge for about 8 months. Now that’s a LONG TERM solution.
larry
August 16th, 2012
10:56 am
We have Labor Day as a National Holiday, we have Memorial Day as a National Holiday, so why not have “Amnesty Day”?
Didnt Ronald Reagan have one of those back in the late ’80’s ?
Peadawg
August 16th, 2012
10:56 am
“What exactly do you want Obama to do?” – Not some lame short term solution to buy votes in November that’s for damn sure.
“Deport them all?” – We don’t have to spend the money to deport. Just look at what happened in Georgia. Deal signed some tough illegal immigration laws and they started leaving. We need to do this on a National level imo.
Peter
August 16th, 2012
10:57 am
Unfortunately what the Republican’s don’t get is these folks can now become part of a US tax paying group…..
So it actually is a wonderful idea…….
Also the Georgia farmers won’t have their crops rot on the vines, as been the issue this year for many of them.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 16th, 2012
10:57 am
MoreRight — “@Joe…did she release and comply?”
Release what and comply with what? It seems quite obvious that she’s publicly acknowledged that she’s got a Swiss account.
I can’t speak for every Democrat, but from where I’m sitting, the issue with Romney isn’t that he *has* a Swiss account — it’s that he seems to not want to talk about it. That piques my curiosity. Whereas with Wasserman, she’s been pretty up-front about it.
“i read she didnt release any of her files and account info….i really dont know..im asking..”
I’m not familiar with what you’re talking about. What was it that she supposedly didn’t release? Can you post a link to a news story or something, please?
SwamiDave
August 16th, 2012
10:57 am
Joe
“If she’s complied with US tax law in *disclosing* that account and its transactions, then what’s your grief about it?”
Well according to the accepted Harry Reid method of accusation and insinuation……
Whats-Her-Name-Shultz hasn’t proven that she doesn’t have other Swiss accounts (with other transactions) which have not been disclosed and the very fact that she does have the one disclosed one makes her a valid suspect to have other non-disclosed ones. I’m sure that there is someone who has claimed she does so absent the required documentation to disprove the negative, current standards among Democrats would make her guilty.
-SD
The Leg Lamp is a "Major Award"....
August 16th, 2012
10:58 am
Butch Cassidy (I)
August 16th, 2012
10:54 am
“Obsess much?”
Um, no. I’m on here now about once every 2 or 3 months.
And yourself? So who’s obsessing?
Verbal Kint
August 16th, 2012
10:58 am
“Opening a bank account in foreign banks and depositing large sums of money there is quite another thing”
Is there a law that is being broken?
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 16th, 2012
10:58 am
the next National holiday is going to be called “Election Day”
The Founders placed it there before the festivals & Christmas
season, and after the crops were in, correctly assuming almost
all the people of that time would be OFF that day.
When we pass “Election Day” you just THINK the cons are unhinged now
Joe Hussein Mama
August 16th, 2012
10:59 am
V. Kint — “And Romney hasn’t disclosed his per US Tax law? Give me a break.”
Maybe not. That’s where the criticism of Romney seems to be headed; that he *didn’t* disclose per US tax law.
“You all are pissed because he hasn’t released any more information to the public.”
I’m upset about that, too, yes. And I’ve made no secret of it.
“Frankly, I’m more concerned about how the gov’t SPENDS my tax dollars than what some rich guy paid in taxes.”
That’s certainly your right to do so. But not everyone is going to agree with you.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 16th, 2012
11:00 am
The third choice is to leave them in a permanent legal limbo where they’re stuck mowing a lazy American’s lawn instead of inventing a cure for cancer.
I swear, that girl’s had it in for me ever since I offered to come check out her plumbing over on Wooten’s blog.
Butch Cassidy (I)
August 16th, 2012
11:01 am
Leg – “So who’s obsessing?”
Anytime you mention Joe Biden in more than 3 posts in less than 5 minutes in an attempt to prove that he’s an idiot (which I think he is) would qualify as “obsessing”. The question is, why are you so obsessed with the man to begin with?
Joe Hussein Mama
August 16th, 2012
11:01 am
larry — “If companies have a right to look at credit records as a basis for employment, the public has a right to look at his taxes. Its all part of the background check. If he wanted privacy, he shouldnt have run for president.”
Completely agree, larry.
FWIW, 0311 and I don’t agree on much, but we DO agree on this: candidates for President need to undergo a background check.
If we had to get checked out in order to be trusted with some of the country’s secrets, then Presidential candidates should do no less.
TaxPayer
August 16th, 2012
11:02 am
Verbal Kint
August 16th, 2012
10:58 am
“Opening a bank account in foreign banks and depositing large sums of money there is quite another thing”
Is there a law that is being broken?
Glad you asked. Let’s look for the answer. By the way, I see Jay has already called you out for your false claim regarding one person’s Swiss holdings. Come on now. Try to at least present a factual basis with your claims.
Paul
August 16th, 2012
11:03 am
Best of luck to them. The documentation’s enormous. People opposed to his are already in the Republican camp. The ones Republicans will lose are, as noted, Hispanics who may have been in the Republican camp.
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 16th, 2012
11:03 am
And yeah it’s probably louder than it should be since I need to hear it over the lawn mower
yeah. I rationalize my (dumb) choice by figuring my hearing’s shot from having spent too much time too close to a drum kit as a yout, anyways.
Maybe both of us should ask our better halves for good quality noise-cancelling ‘phones for Xmas.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 16th, 2012
11:03 am
SD — “Well according to the accepted Harry Reid method of accusation and insinuation……”
In other words, you’re just going to make something up.
“Whats-Her-Name-Shultz hasn’t proven that she doesn’t have other Swiss accounts”
Kettle logic. Well done.
Doggone/GA
August 16th, 2012
11:04 am
“And Romney hasn’t disclosed his per US Tax law? Give me a break. You all are pissed because he hasn’t released any more information to the public”
To your first question: we don’t know. For the reason why we don’t know, see your first statement.
larry
August 16th, 2012
11:04 am
Ooooops…………….. They did it again. Of course , they seem to do it every election.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/15/band-demands-that-romney-campaign-stop-using-its-song/comment-page-2/#comment-4335991
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 16th, 2012
11:04 am
FWIW, 0311 and I don’t agree on much, but we DO agree on this: candidates for President need to undergo a background check.
Given that I’ve done my share of Scout-knocking over the years (where DOES the time go?) I should take this opportunity to give credit where it’s due.
0311 took a principled stand on this. Good for him.
Peadawg
August 16th, 2012
11:04 am
“Maybe both of us should ask our better halves for good quality noise-cancelling ‘phones for Xmas.
Not sure what Xmas is. You mean Christmas?
But yes I agree.
They BOTH suck
August 16th, 2012
11:05 am
off topic but good article
http://tinyurl.com/8dvg9xs
The Leg Lamp is a "Major Award"....
August 16th, 2012
11:05 am
Butch Cassidy (I)
August 16th, 2012
11:01 am
So you’ve directed two posts about me in about 7 minutes. Are you obsessing?
The question is, why are you so obsessed with me to begin with?
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 16th, 2012
11:06 am
Congress has kicked the can down the road on this repeatedly, it’s clear they’re not doing jack squat. I say good for Obama.
this.
Gordon
August 16th, 2012
11:06 am
Why did Obama wait until now to do this? Oh yeah…..
“In recent polls, Obama’s lead over Romney among Hispanic voters has grown to 40 percentage points or more….”
What an inspirational leader!