Romney’s selection of Ryan good for the country

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I’m thrilled that Mitt Romney has chosen Paul Ryan as his running mate. Not because it will make the election more difficult for Romney to win, although it might. I think the choice is good for the country because it ensures that this campaign will confront American voters with a stark choice of direction, and the time for that choice has come.

If the Romney/Ryan ticket wins, and if the Democrats do their job during the campaign in explaining the repercussions of such a victory, come January the federal government will have clear marching orders. The political stalemate will have been broken, even if on behalf of an ideology that I believe is dangerously naive and even cruel.

Conversely, if President Obama wins re-election against a Republican team that has explained its alternative course clearly and bluntly — and the Ryan selection all but ensures that will happen — a victorious Obama will also be able to argue that the debate has been heard and a direction set, and this country can once again begin to move forward.

Whatever the outcome, the selection of Ryan and all it entails is a gamble by Romney that raises the stakes in this election considerably. It’s what we needed.

– Jay Bookman

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Doggone/GA

August 11th, 2012
11:03 am

The body language in that photo is VERY telling. What is Ryan congratulating the modest Romney for? As I said in the previous blog…Ryan will be a “sappy sidekick” on the model of Dick Cheney if this pair gets elected.

VaHi Guy

August 11th, 2012
11:03 am

Agree 100%.

Romney / Ryan is the personification of the Republican Party platform.

On November 7, no one can plausibly claim that Republican voters had to compromise their beliefs.

Zebra

August 11th, 2012
11:04 am

Romney was going to have to defend the idiotic Ryan budget plan anyway so he might as well have the author to help him. I don’t think it matters. If nothing big happens (war with Iran, etc.) Obama wins in a landslide. If something does, Romney’s VP choice will not matter.

Welcome to the Occupation

August 11th, 2012
11:05 am

I think the choice is good for the country because it ensures that this campaign will confront American voters with a stark choice of direction, and the time for that choice has come.

As I said yesterday, how does any single action of political strategy “guarantee” that a hard choice is confronted? Your next line, “if Democrats do their job”, underscores the problem. No guarantees, as far as I can see.

Furthermore, it presupposes that the two choices given actually represent a genuine choice of a radical nature, which I think is anything but the case.

GW

August 11th, 2012
11:05 am

This ticket is so far to the right that it might actually scare the left into turning out at the polls : )

Recon 0311 2533

August 11th, 2012
11:08 am

From downstairs. I completely agree with Jay on the stark difference.

We want to create equal opportunity for everyone not try to create equal results for everyone. And therein is the difference in philosophy between the Obama administration and the governing philosophy of Romney/Ryan. The people will have a clear choice in November of reelecting a far left socialist or electing a new administration that will put us back on a proven course that made this country the greatest and most successful nation in the history of the world.

RF

August 11th, 2012
11:12 am

Was there really a choice for Mitt? He’s not wildly popular with the party, he hasn’t articulated a clear plan on…anything. With Ryan, he’s pointed his campaign clearly at the far right, now with substance rather than pandering rhetoric. It locks Romney, whose past indicated a more moderate ideology, to the clearly non-negotiable far right plan. In some ways, I see this turning Romney as president into a symbolic signature for the legislation that will rain down around him from conservatives. It all but ends any negotiation, and that worries me mightily. While I agree that it’s time to break the stalemate, even if we have to follow the lemmings off the cliff, I really don’t think this is the way to go. I also think Romney had little choice.

What I also see is that Ryan will have to be carefully controlled or he’ll outshine Romney, and he probably will no matter what. The choice was carefully made, I’m sure, but I wonder if this will be another Palin taking the stage. Romney simply doesn’t have the speaking power to match the direct, energetic speech Ryan is known for, even when his plans are too far right to be practical.

If this helps commit the undecided voters, then perhaps we’ll see where the country really stands on the issues. It’s probably the best choice for the Romney campaign, but I don’t like it.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

August 11th, 2012
11:13 am

And Ryan is prettier than Palin!

Welcome to the Occupation

August 11th, 2012
11:15 am

“if President Obama wins re-election against a Republican team that has explained its alternative course clearly and bluntly”

But there’s no reason they have to “explain their course clearly and bluntly”. They’ll simply engage in the same old misdirection they always do. The Romney team may not be the sharpest bunch, but they’re not complete idiots. They know how abysmally unpopular the Ryan budget plan was (remember that upstate NY race that was won largely by hammering away at the Ryan budget?). So they’re not going to come right out and endorse the most unpopular parts.

Whether they succeed of course is another question, but they know that to have any chance they will have to misdirect from start to finish.

MC

August 11th, 2012
11:16 am

Far left socialist my azz! I just love it when the loonies start throwing out that word. Especially when the ones throwing it out are obviously fascists. lol

RF

August 11th, 2012
11:16 am

Recon: while the right wants to paint Obama as far left, what are the facts? He’s been painfully moderate, and most on the left aren’t happy with him for that reason. Even as congress has polarized, his positions have shifted constantly. He has been anything but a “far-left socialist” to the dismay to many on the left that assumed a black president would be their far-left poster child.

Welcome to the Occupation

August 11th, 2012
11:17 am

Recon: “The people will have a clear choice in November of reelecting a far left socialist”

Far left socialist?

Where!

A far left socialist and I didn’t even notice it, how’d that happen?

C’mon tell me, what’s his name, this “far left socialist” I’m just dying to know.. LOL

kelly

August 11th, 2012
11:17 am

The geezers in Florida will not give up a nickel in entitlements no matter how handsome Ryan is. And when asked why there was no compromise possible with a 10/1 ratio spending cuts to revenue increases proposal by the administration, what will his answer be? He won’t have one because it was always about regaining power, not helping the country.

jconservative

August 11th, 2012
11:17 am

The election will be about Romney’s taxes and offshore money and about the Ryan Plan. The White House has been trying to tie Romney to the Ryan Plan all spring and summer and now Romney has done the task for them.

The only chance Romney/Ryan has is to outspend the Obama campaign about 2 to 1. And they are well on their way in fundraising.

Wally

August 11th, 2012
11:18 am

When was Trickle Down EVER proven to work? I mean it, ever? Thirty plus years, even if you exclude how similar philosophies caused the calamities of the post-Civil War economy and the advent of the Great Depression. Really, where are the facts that prove the theory?

As for Obama being a socialist, that is incredibly laughable. The ACA was written with medical and insurance companies in mind. I have seen government payrolls reduced, no takeovers of anything. Your so-called “Government Motors” is independent and profitable.

Sure, we should probably be pointing these things out daily, but you just get hoarse talking to a wall. Either way, had a few moments to laugh at the incredible silliness of the conservative argument and figured I’d weigh in.

SBinf

August 11th, 2012
11:18 am

Romney had to make a choice that would shore up his base.

That does not bode well for his fortunes in the race.

Jay

August 11th, 2012
11:18 am

Welcome, while I’m sure the GOP will misdirect to a degree — as will the Democrats — if they wanted to avoid the debate altogether they never would have chosen Ryan. This has to be interpreted as a full embrace of the Ryan doctrine by Romney, who after all had many other choices for veep.

SBinf

August 11th, 2012
11:19 am

“The only chance Romney/Ryan has is to outspend the Obama campaign about 2 to 1. And they are well on their way in fundraising.”

Spending in that respect won’t matter. Both sides have more than enough money to saturate the air waves. The winner will go to the best ground game. Obama’s been working on that for 4 years.

ty webb

August 11th, 2012
11:19 am

most often, those that throw out the word “fascist”, are just that…or they’re simply illiterate.

Bernie

August 11th, 2012
11:20 am

Now that we have the long awaited announcement coming from “THE SHIP TO NOWHERE”. While watching this stilted display, several things jumps right off of the screen that makes this entire announcement a little discomforting. As a NAVY Veteran seeing the fighting ship namesake U.S.S. Wisconsin used as a prop for a Presidential candidate who when presented with an opportunity and a choice to defend this great NATION in Vietnam, his choice was to get a DEFERMENT to go FRANCE and perform MORMON CHURCH missionary duties. Now we have him using one our greatest defense vessels as a STAGED PROP.

Just as in the case of his (5) Military aged and able SONS who have followed in their Fathers footsteps and have chosen not to serve this GREAT NATION’S MILITARY when we are already in a WAR TIME FOOTING. The second noticeable spectacle was the selective placement of 3 minorities (African American Man & Woman along with a woman who appears to be of Asian ethnicity) who were certainly strategically and perfectly placed for any and all camera and still shot views. The other very interesting vision was the African MAN & Woman, who did “NOT” actively CHEER and wave flags on cue as many of the supporters there. As a matter of fact the African American Man’s body language was not one of positive support, but as if her were saying I am here because I am being paid. I was starkly reminded of many movie shots of a SAMUEL JACKSON pose, when faced with MISSION IMPOSSIBLE! in his ALL of his action movies!

As far as the substance of Ryans speech calls into the question MITTS current refusal to provide more than one year of TAXES. ” We won’t duck the tough issues…we will lead!” along with ” And the courage to tell you the truth.”. neither assurance MITT has honored so far in his campaign.

“I hear some people say that this is just “the new normal.” High unemployment, declining incomes and crushing debt is not a new normal. It’s the result of misguided policies” says Ryan . WE ALL must Remember, those were the polices that were started, implemented and continued through the last BUSH Administration, that brought us to where we are, TODAY!

All in all, this is MITT & RYANS great debut! As in most things MITT, the gaffes continue its normal course. We have seen this Movie before with W. and they are no longer funny. For when they occur Americans end up dying and the rest pay for the costly errors and the JOKE ultimately ends up being on US, WE THE PEOPLE!

I for one, no longer find the Humor in such foretelling behavior. Mr. RYAN is the MEDICARE”S “GRIM REAPER” in live personification. Along with MITTS unannounced specific plans he has for America going forward, neither ONE inspires great confidence they are the RIGHT CHOICE FOR AMERICA!

SBinf

August 11th, 2012
11:21 am

And I wonder if Mitt sees the irony in announcing his veep pick on a decommissioned battleship, while he received multiple deferments to avoid serving in the armed forces.

Let’s not forget the last time a politician appeared on a battleship, back in 2003, Bush and his codpiece announcing, “mission accomplished!”

MC

August 11th, 2012
11:21 am

Because that’s all he can throw out there RF. He’s one of those Faux news parrots. It’s the only thing he knows to say.

Peadawg

August 11th, 2012
11:21 am

Had to hop on here and see what Jay had to say. Interesting, very very far right pick. And I disagree Finn, Sarah Palin is a total MILF.

And what is it w/ Obama and Romney and introducing their running mates as the next President?

“I would like you to join me in welcoming the next president of the United States, Paul Ryan!” Romney told a fired-up crowd in Norfolk, Virginia.”

“So let me introduce to you the next president-the next vice president of the US of America, Joe Biden.”

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

August 11th, 2012
11:23 am

Be funny if the Cons don’t even win Wisconsin

ty webb

August 11th, 2012
11:23 am

peadawg,
only mitt’s “gaffes” count…didn’t you get the memo?

Nancy

August 11th, 2012
11:26 am

I agree, but we have heard very little from Obama, or Dems in general, defending the role of any government in our lives. Hearing incessantly the drumbeat that regulations are oppressive and evil I’d welcome someone succinctly explain regulation is what keeps our water and air clean, who gets to drill where; and what safety controls must be in place when they do, and how safe our workplaces and food sources are. It also rules on whether our banks can risk our savings with no oversight, can doctors, dentists, realtors and others practice with no licence, who has the right to own how much of our media outlets and so many other questions. Certainly government has to be watched – that’s our job – but Democrats must make a real effort to counter the “evil government regulation” charges and remind us of the positive parts of regulation we take for granted. They are at risk.

MC

August 11th, 2012
11:26 am

Bernie all of these cons are a bunch of chairborn warriors. Look at the worst one of all Dickey Doo Cheney. When his daughter got tapped to go to Irag with Paul Bremmer, Deadeye Dickless Cheney pulled the plug saying it was too dangerous for his little darling there. Typical gutless cons.

getalife

August 11th, 2012
11:27 am

ryan wants to end SS and Medicare. Yes, it is radical.

Cue tossing gradma off the cliff ads………..

Recon 0311 2533

August 11th, 2012
11:28 am

RF,

Many see his agenda from health care to his attacks on high income earners and all in between as proof that Obama has indeed a socialist perhaps even a communist ideology. I’m among those who see him that way. No offense because I’m certain there are many Democrats that truly see him as a moderate but I do agree with Jay that the people have a choice between to starkly different philosophies.

hiram

August 11th, 2012
11:29 am

@sbinf
It was an aircraft carrier. Don’t you remember? W played dress up and rode in the back seat of a jet that landed on the Deck.

Mary Elizabeth

August 11th, 2012
11:29 am

The ultraconservative financial backers of wealth and power – who want to shift this nation’s populace to support a more Libertarian vision for America – have their eyes on the future. They desired for Ryan to be selected as VP – now – to give him national credibility and additional exposure, in order to finance Ryan’s run for president in 2016 and 2020, so that their financial interests and vision will be advanced.

I support the tenets of our Founding Fathers when they avowed that this nation was created to serve the interests of the many, not simply the interests of the few of wealth and power. Those founders established a democratic Republic, not an obligarchy. I support the Obama-Biden ticket, as a result.

Brosephus™

August 11th, 2012
11:30 am

As I said in the previous blog…Ryan will be a “sappy sidekick” on the model of Dick Cheney if this pair gets elected.

According to “The Daily Beast”, Ol’ Grover tends to agree with you too.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/13/grover-norquist-speech-cpac.html

All we have to do is replace Obama. … We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don’t need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. … We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don’t need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate.

The requirement for president?

Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared.

Erwin's cat

August 11th, 2012
11:30 am

Nice pick…forces a debate on issues

RF

August 11th, 2012
11:31 am

“most often, those that throw out the word “fascist”, are just that…or they’re simply illiterate.”

ty: those who throw out “socialist” are worse than illiterate: they’re brainwashed and incapable of intelligent thought.

Welcome to the Occupation

August 11th, 2012
11:31 am

Jay: “if they wanted to avoid the debate altogether they never would have chosen Ryan”

One of the best ways to blunt the negative effects of something is to place it front and center, so that it’s hidden ‘in plain sight’.

In fact, the announcement is only an hour old and the misdirection is already underway:

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/mitt-romney-ryan-budget.php

• Gov. Romney applauds Paul Ryan for going in the right direction with his budget, and as president he will be putting together his own plan for cutting the deficit and putting the budget on a path to balance.

Not exactly a denial, granted, but a sidestep nonetheless. Getting that balance right will be crucial for Romney.

hiram

August 11th, 2012
11:32 am

Odds are, if Obama were all Irish, instead of half Irish, he wouldn’t be preceived as a communist – just a lib, at worst. It’s a racial thing.

RF

August 11th, 2012
11:34 am

Recon: true, but I think the difference is more between a far-right ideology and a moderately liberal one. The “attacks” on the high income earners are less than or equal to what Clinton did with congressional support in the 90’s- and the economy grew and the budget balanced. There’s just no way to practically, or factually, paint Obama as far-left. Plenty of folks over there who have tried, and failed, to pull him their way.

ty webb

August 11th, 2012
11:34 am

” those who throw out “socialist” are worse than illiterate: they’re brainwashed and incapable of intelligent thought.”

so your doo doo doesn’t smell as bad as theirs?… the problem is, it’s all “doo doo”.

MC

August 11th, 2012
11:35 am

Recon keep braying burro. Maybe he’s actually a realist. Much like the first term Reagan or Daddy Bush. Nothing about people paying the percentage of their income that they rightfully should is remotely Socialist or Communist. Maybe you should retake 2nd grade civics and get in touch with the definition of Socialist.

independent thinker

August 11th, 2012
11:35 am

Ayn Rand devotee Paul Ryan will be forced to explain why she aaccepted pubic benefits in her old age while railing against entitlements.

Simple Truths

August 11th, 2012
11:36 am

Jay believes that spending what you make and not running up massive deficits is dangerously naive and even cruel. Wow!

MC

August 11th, 2012
11:36 am

RF….if you can stomach it turn on Fox News for just 5 minutes and you’ll know exactly where the Recon parrot gets his propaganda.

162 more days

August 11th, 2012
11:36 am

Getalife
O’Bama is going down, just like your honey badger

ty webb

August 11th, 2012
11:36 am

“The ultraconservative financial backers of wealth and power – who want to shift this nation’s populace to support a more Libertarian vision for America – have their eyes on the future. They desired for Ryan to be selected as VP – now – to give him national credibility and additional exposure, in order to finance Ryan’s run for president in 2016 and 2020, so that their financial interests and vision will be advanced.”

Jaime Dimon disagrees.

RF

August 11th, 2012
11:39 am

ty: absolutely it’s all doo-doo, but the playground namecalling generally seems to start from the far-right, and only gets worse as the day goes on, regardless of facts for or against their views.

larry

August 11th, 2012
11:39 am

Romney : Here you go Mr.President , the election is all yours.

President Obama : Mitt, Mitt, Mitt, you went with Ryan ? Really ? You made this too easy.
And guess what , my party took his house seat too. Which made winning back the house that much easier.

Yep , the choice is clear. Either you want to finish the job Bush did to the country or you want the slow , steady climb out of the vast hole the Repubs put this country in.

MC

August 11th, 2012
11:40 am

Nobody wants to talk about how many jobs were lost during the last Republi-con administration. That was a day day at the beach compared to what the next con administration would engineer.

RF

August 11th, 2012
11:40 am

MC: I do, and sometimes I even watch Lou Dobbs for a while. I had to bolt the furniture down and buy some foam bricks so I didn’t break the TV, but I find it’s important to keep up as best I can.

DannyX

August 11th, 2012
11:41 am

Republicans may be in love with the Ryan budget but the American people will sure need a lot of convincing.

An ABC News poll released in June showed most Americans did not like the Ryan budget, 50% against, 32% support. Ryan’s voucher plan was even more unpopular 65% against, 35% for.

Big gamble picking Ryan. Is the House now in play?

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PJ

August 11th, 2012
11:42 am

Bernie @11:20 am

Well said on all points!

hiram

August 11th, 2012
11:42 am

It should be obvious from the last two presidential elections, that the Republican Party is dying in this country. Look at the field of losers that showed up for the party, and look at who they are running. The changing demographics in this country will all but insure that this is the last time they will even have a shimmer of hope at success. Of course, Al Capone could get elected Governor in Georgia, and I think he did, but thank God, they don’t count in presidential elections.

Recon 0311 2533

August 11th, 2012
11:42 am

I wonder why socialists are so ashamed of being referred to as socialists. I guess it’s because the United States hasn’t historically fully embraced socialist ideology and the, (excuse me) socialists don’t want their secret revealed that when Obama talked about transforming America he was really talking about transforming America into a socialist state.

larry

August 11th, 2012
11:43 am

Jaime Dimon disagrees

You mean the poster boy for more financial regulation in this country.

Something that is severely needed that is.

Jay

August 11th, 2012
11:44 am

Danny X, it may indeed be in play now. This selection changes the nature of the race. It is no longer Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney; to a degree that we haven’t seen in a long time, it is now the Democratic approach vs. the Republican approach. For that reason, I would expect the victor in the presidential race to have pretty long coattails in bringing fellow party members to Washington.

RF

August 11th, 2012
11:46 am

MC: don’t know how much reading/study you’ve done on the rise of fascism in Europe in the early 20th century, but it’s soooo easy to see the signs of it here in the last decade. Many on the right have fallen into the mire of fear that fascists use to convince them they need the focused, mightily powerful leadership they can offer. It’s probably lucky for us that the best they could come up with was Romney. If they had a Reagan for this election, we’d be marching and saluting the Supreme Leader before his first term was up. Yet another reason Ryan is vital in this election. They know they will likely lose, but they want him out there as the face of the party for 2016. Between now and then, just stay away from crowded public places except for Chick-fil-A and the baptist churches.

ty webb

August 11th, 2012
11:46 am

Jay,
no way control of the house is in play…the GOP can afford to lose Ryan’s seat.

MC

August 11th, 2012
11:48 am

“We will restore America to greatness”. LMAO! The last administration that shilled that theme gave us Iraq, Afghanistan, runaway war spending, no bid, no oversight contracts, and the illustrious Department of Homeland boondoogles….uh I mean Security. LMAO! To that bunch greatness is unwinnable wars that bust the budget to the point of putting us into a depression. You go cons!

RF

August 11th, 2012
11:49 am

Recon: I’ll wear the socialist badge if you’ll wear the fascist one. If you want us to “admit” to some extreme philosophy because we dare to disagree with The Party, then you must wear your badge too. Study fascism….you’re proving it’s just as alive and well as anything on the left.

Happy Walker

August 11th, 2012
11:49 am

let’s hope it is an honest debate. There are plenty of people who believe your side is the cruel side. hopefully we can point out what damage liberal policies have done to many people and groups of people in this country without being labeled a racist or a murderer.

Jay

August 11th, 2012
11:51 am

It’s not about Ryan’s seat, Ty.

But the nature of this contest has changed. The battleground on which it will be fought has changed. The likelihood of ticket-splitting — voting one way for Congress, another for president — has now fallen, because it’s going to be less about personality and more about policy. In a sense, it will be more of a parliamentary type election.

MC

August 11th, 2012
11:51 am

Well stated RF. One of the ways to combat our slide into fascism would be to abolish the Department of Homeland Security. It’s a virtual fascist manifesto.

barking frog

August 11th, 2012
11:52 am

Jay, I agree.
Romney may have broken the back of the moderate
republicans with this tea
party hack and they may
stay home in huge numbers.

getalife

August 11th, 2012
11:52 am

Yay, lets scare the crap out of our Seniors so the wealthy can keep their tax cuts.

Yaahaw., that is the ticket.

Doggone/GA

August 11th, 2012
11:52 am

“the illustrious Department of Homeland boondoogles….uh I mean Security”

Maybe you don’t realize, but that particular idea originated in the Clinton admin. If I remember correctly, they even tried to get Congress to pass it…but failed.

larry

August 11th, 2012
11:52 am

I think the house is in play. All its needed is 25 seats. And with the country firmly against Ryan’s plan, and knowing that with a Repub Congress, it will be implemented, I think it makes the house very much in play and it also strengthens an already Democratic Senate.

The move was one of many Romney gaffes that he has made since the primary’s were over.
Oh well.

ByteMe - Political thug

August 11th, 2012
11:54 am

I don’t think it changes anything.

Romney is already saying his pick doesn’t mean he 100% backs the Ryan “plan” to kill Medicare. But Democrats will hang that around his neck anyway.

So Ayn Ryan and the Monopoly Guy go on the road to convince us that they really mean it and don’t mean it at the same time. How does that clarify anything??

Welcome to the Occupation

August 11th, 2012
11:55 am

Jay: “But the nature of this contest has changed. The battleground on which it will be fought has changed. The likelihood of ticket-splitting — voting one way for Congress, another for president — has now fallen, because it’s going to be less about personality and more about policy”

I do agree on that point. But of course it had to. The Romney ship was taking on water at a terrifying rate.

The percentage of Americans who had even heard of Paul Ryan yesterday was in the mid-30s. As we speak the needle is rising way up. The result of that will be an ideological retrenchment, much like we saw in that other race in Ryan’s home state with Walker. People will lock in along ideological lines.

MC

August 11th, 2012
11:56 am

Keep braying Recon. Parroting that word only plays to the lowest common denominator. Come with something clearly socialist and why it is socialist and then you might get some play. Until then you are just another Faux news lemming.

ty webb

August 11th, 2012
11:57 am

“because it’s going to be less about personality and more about policy. In a sense, it will be more of a parliamentary type election.”

Jay,
I wish I shared your optimism with regards to this race being about the issues…I just don’t see “dog on top of car/being eaten stories”, “high school bullying stories”, “birtherism”, “bainers”, and “tax returners”, going away…and sadly those “stories” get the most attention it seems.

Recon 0311 2533

August 11th, 2012
11:57 am

Both Gallup and Rasmussen currently have Obama’s disapproval over 50%. To early to see what effect if any Ryan’s selection may have, however, if there’s any significant shifting in both Romney’s and Obama’s approval/disapproval next week, it could be a indicator that the current stalemate is breaking one way or the other.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

August 11th, 2012
12:02 pm

Republican delusional mindset will be their end. I have no doubt this Veep pick was forced on Romney just as the one from 4 years ago was forced on McCain. And that is fine with me. Just keep doing what you are doing GOP so we can finally be done with you. Once the details of the Ryan plan are out for all to see the November slaughter of the GOP will look like Mondale/Dukakis demolitions.

Jay

August 11th, 2012
12:02 pm

Ty, you’ll still see some of that, no doubt. But less so under these circumstances. (That’s not to say that both parties won’t be trying to push the cartoon version of the other side’s approach, of course.)

Erwin's cat

August 11th, 2012
12:03 pm

Jay you are absolutely correct…the fabric of the debate and this election has changed dramatically

RF

August 11th, 2012
12:05 pm

“and sadly those “stories” get the most attention it seems.”

VERY true, Ty, but I have to give Jay his point. This really does add some solid base to the quite honestly wimpy stance Romney has had on anything he’s been asked about so far. It does at least set the stage for more policy debate, and it’s time for that. The ridiculousness will ramp up as it usually does during a presidential race, but the policy debate will ramp up also and regardless of political ideology, I like that idea too.

ty webb

August 11th, 2012
12:06 pm

“This really does add some solid base to the quite honestly wimpy stance Romney has had on anything he’s been asked about so far.”

as I was saying.

DannyX

August 11th, 2012
12:07 pm

On July 24th Real Clear Politics average had Obama up by 1.8%, a little over 2 weeks later the Obama lead is up to 4.6%.

Obviously Romney felt he had to make a big move, but why Ryan? How is Ryan, the Tea Party darling going to help Romney with the independents he has been losing the past 2 weeks?

ByteMe - Political thug

August 11th, 2012
12:07 pm

But less so under these circumstances.

I doubt it. When was the last time ANYONE paid attention to what the VP candidate said unless it was to play up gaffes?

People don’t vote for VP. They can vote against them, but not for them. They vote FOR the President.

And Obama knows that.

This doesn’t change anything other than to give more ammo to Team Obama.

Shine

August 11th, 2012
12:08 pm

How can the tea party like this guy? Paul Ryan on Bailouts, Government Stimuli and Spending
-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)
-Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003)

How many of the above votes are Tea Party positions? Ryan and Barney Frank vote alike dont they?

What a joke!!!

Praveen

August 11th, 2012
12:08 pm

How does Romney plan on reducing the budget with a foreign policy team that gets us into ridiculously expensive proactive wars? Obama hasn’t done a great job reducing defense spending, but at least he doesnt get us into new wars.If Romney was president, the Libya conflict would have escalated into a full blown war by the US with defense expenditure going up. All those republicans (except for Ron Paul) dont mind spending overseas but balk at dom4estic spending which increases our assets. When you rebuild bridges, that makes the US more valuable while giving americans jobs at the same time.

ty webb

August 11th, 2012
12:08 pm

I’m out to watch the PGA championship…I hope a small few of you have a good day.

Brosephus™ - aka "The Bitter Brother"

August 11th, 2012
12:10 pm

Ty, you’ll still see some of that, no doubt. But less so under these circumstances.

I may have to change my handle until November based on that one. I’ve already bought up ponchos, waders, and anything else that will keep the mud off of me and my family. I’m predicting we are about to see the worst campaign ever when it comes to mudslinging. All the signs are there. You have very defined ideological differences. There is the hyper partisanship. Add the almost limitless spending that can be done by Super PACS, and you have a recipe for “Mud Bowl 2012″.

RF

August 11th, 2012
12:10 pm

MC: Homeland Security will be abolished about the time that congress agrees defense spending needs to be reduced, and that ain’t happening any time soon! Conservatives, who got drunk on power post 9/11 in the tsunami of growth of conservatism, can’t accept the shift that has occurred in this country since 2006. They won’t, and they’ll tilt at every windmill they can possibly call a dragon to keep any bit of power they can. We need the opposition of ideas to keep this country balanced, but the balance shifted mightily for several years, and the right got addicted to the power. Homeland Security is one vehicle to maintain some of that power they have left even if Obama gets reelected.

Truth-O-Meter

August 11th, 2012
12:11 pm

Question: Did Paul Ryan have to show his tax returns as part of the vetting process? Just asking…
Quote: What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. (A great philosopher named Romney.)

Jay

August 11th, 2012
12:12 pm

I’m not arguing the race will get less ugly, Bro. In other words, keep the ponchos and hipwaders handy, you may need them more than ever.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)

August 11th, 2012
12:12 pm

Can’t wait for the debate between VP Joe Biden and Rex Ryan! Oophs, I meant Paul Ryan! Good for Joe that it is Paul instead of Rex, just imagine the bleeps from that debate!! My money would be on Rex(NY Jets coach, in case some of you knucleheads did not know him)!

Erwin's cat

August 11th, 2012
12:12 pm

I hope a small few of you have a good day.

this is most of the problem in today’s politics

Adam

August 11th, 2012
12:15 pm

This is fantastic!

Paul Ryan now will have to give up his congressional seat to run, and since he and Romney are BOTH going to lose, No more Paul Ryan in Congress! And Obama cruises to a second term by running against Romney as endorsing a plan that kills Medicare (let’s face it, that’s what it does, despite making an entirely new plan and slapping the same name on it).

No more Paul Ryan, Ayn Randian bullsh*t will be dealt a mortal blow
No more Romney.

I await the Congressional predictions from Nate Silver. But for today, I’m popping open a bottle of bubbly. This news is almost as good as when Obamacare was upheld. Obama must be doing a jig:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il1vY2IQATs

getalife

August 11th, 2012
12:15 pm

It puts the gop house vote to end Medicare the top issue.

It puts the gop house is a bad spot but they deserve it for voting for it.

Good pick because he was losing the cons but now they lose the house.

larry

August 11th, 2012
12:16 pm

Tom, i think Romney would have done better naming Rex Ryan instead of Paul.

Liberal Pariah

August 11th, 2012
12:19 pm

No matter who gets elected, there won’t be much of a mandate becaues the country is so polarized at this time. Hopefully, sane conservative policies (yes I said sane) could prevent this country’s economic and moral freefall.

ByteMe - Political thug

August 11th, 2012
12:20 pm

Tom, i think Romney would have done better naming Rex Ryan instead of Paul.

Tim Tebow would have been an even better pick. Land the evangelical in droves, no discernable record so the etch-a-sketch can continue to function….

Adam

August 11th, 2012
12:20 pm

This race would have been so much better with a Santorum/Ryan ticket, because THEN the cons would HAVE to acknowledge their views are NOT what the majority of the country wants, thus ruining their idea of “WE HAVE A MANDATE”

If, somehow, the Democrats regain the House, Democrats still have the Senate, and since Obama will DEFINITELY win the Presidency, THAT would be a mandate.

Adam

August 11th, 2012
12:21 pm

Hopefully, sane conservative policies (yes I said sane) could prevent this country’s economic and moral freefall.

Agreed.

Romney and Ryan don’t have any such policies though.

Slayer

August 11th, 2012
12:21 pm

Vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson and get true liberty!

Doggone/GA

August 11th, 2012
12:22 pm

“Hopefully, sane conservative policies (yes I said sane) could prevent this country’s economic and moral freefall”

Problem is: all a “conservative” has to do is state one to be immediately labeled a RINO

getalife

August 11th, 2012
12:22 pm

I remember when he blamed w for all those votes he casted but he could have voted no.

Adam

August 11th, 2012
12:23 pm

Vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson and get true liberty Obama by default!

FYT

Just saying..

August 11th, 2012
12:23 pm

I’m beginning to get that “A choice not an echo” feeling…

Bernie

August 11th, 2012
12:24 pm

There is NO REAL and SUBSTANTIVE change here, other than we NOW have an official endorsement by MITT and the Republican Party on RYANS proposed budget plan. We already know that even the most moderate Republicans must HOLD THEIR NOSES going forward and pray that the American people will warm up to it.

After the last roll out of this DASTARDLY PLAN, its was treated like the HERPES VIRUS! Everyone ran away from it, even RYAN himself.

This is nothing but a RE- rollout of the (4) FOUR ” R’’s” : REPUBLICAN – ROMNEY – RYAN – RERUN!

Its viewers will soon reject it, again as well!

Today was just the kissing of THIS PIG! Throughout today, All of the REPUBLICANS will be applying LIPSTICK on it and tomorrow it will be called PRETTY!

Austerity has already failed in EUROPE, why would America be willing to embrace the same failing concept?

GRANDMA AND GRANDPA ARE NOW ON THE FAST TRACK RIDE OFF THE CLIFF, FOR SURE!

getalife

August 11th, 2012
12:24 pm

They have sane cons?

Name them.