What Gingrich, Santorum, etc. got right about Romney

Back in the heat of the primary season, Republican leaders grew very uneasy when Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Rick Perry began to attack Mitt Romney as an out-of-touch rich guy who built his wealth through “vulture capitalism” (Rick Perry’s term) and was hiding something in his taxes. Among other concerns, GOP leaders recognized that if such attacks on Romney worked, they might end up with Gingrich, Santorum or Perry as their nominee.

That was not an outcome they were willing to risk, so they quickly ruled that line of attack out of bounds.

These days, however, they may be reaping the consequences of that decision. The latest CNN poll has Barack Obama pulling out to a seven-point lead over Romney. Ipsos/Reuters also puts the margin at seven, while Fox News puts it at nine. And as Fox notes, the internals are more worrisome still for Romney:

“Obama’s advantage comes largely from increased support among independents, who now pick him over Romney by 11 percentage points. Some 30 percent of independents are undecided. Last month, Obama had a four-point edge among independents, while Romney had the advantage from April through early June….

“The Obama campaign has spent heavily on advertising attacking Romney’s time at Bain Capital and his tax returns. And it appears to be working. Romney’s favorable rating dropped six percentage points since last month and now sits at 46 percent, down from 52 percent in mid-July. At the same time his unfavorable rating went up five points. Romney’s favorable rating has held steady among his party faithful, but it’s down eight percentage points among independents and seven points among Democrats.”

Moreover, Fox notes, Obama outpolls Romney by eight percentage points on the question of which man is more likely to help people achieve the American dream, which constitutes the foundation of the Romney strategy. And the erosion of support isn’t limited to the party’s nominees:

“While Democrats typically hold a slight edge over Republicans nationally in party identification, this attitude shifts based on events and changing sentiment. These days, voters seem to be even more likely to consider themselves Democrats than Republicans. There has been a five-percentage-point Democratic advantage, on average, in Fox News polls this year. In this poll, the Democratic edge is nine points. That may or may not be on the high side, although it is similar to other recent national polls conducted by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal, which put Democrats up 11 percentage points, and the Pew Research Center, with Democrats up by 13 percent.”

(In a humorous aside, only one major polling outfit in the last three weeks — the ever-reliable Rasmussen — has Romney leading, with the former Massachusetts governor up by four. See below.)

realclear

Source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

It’s still early, of course — the campaign holds a lot of unanticipated twists and turns ahead. But for the moment, the line of attack against Romney that Republican leaders ruled off-limits in the GOP primary seems to be working quite well when employed by Democrats. The party’s decision to protect Romney back in January and February — in effect, Gingrich et al were told not to look the dressage horse in the mouth — meant that he was never forced to develop an explanation or defense against such criticism, and it appears that he has yet to do so to this day.

With voters now forming their early impressions of the GOP nominee, that could prove to have been a major blunder.

– Jay Bookman

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Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

August 10th, 2012
9:38 am

Thanks Bat$hi% Crazy Newt and Sanctimonious Ricky.

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

August 10th, 2012
9:41 am

First.

I’d like to start by thanking my alarm clock. Second I’d like to thank the fast speeds of my interwebs.
Also, I’d like to thank that can of sardines I had for bkfst – the bkfst of champeeens, ya know!

Finally, I’d like to thank the members of the Academy….

and, of course, hats off to debbie..

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

August 10th, 2012
9:41 am

When Obama is ahead 9 points in a FOX NEWS poll.

Well that cant be good for Romney.

We will now be told that the polls dont mean everything and etc etc.

I will tell you who they are important too. The campaigns. I’m sure they watch every one for any slight movement of the needle.

The Romney camp cant like what they are seeing.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 10th, 2012
9:42 am

Mitt, proven to have lied before, needs to quit telling us to “trust him” about what he claims is in his taxes and let the American people see what it there.

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

August 10th, 2012
9:43 am

Romney is most likely to help you with your American dream until it looks profitable – at which time he will take it and make it his own American dream.

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

August 10th, 2012
9:43 am

It could be Fox News trying to create a panic in the base?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 10th, 2012
9:44 am

Look I posted 4th and I am not thanking anyone. I built my post all by myself, you didn’t build that. It was all me I tell ya.

Brosephus™

August 10th, 2012
9:46 am

When Obama is ahead 9 points in a FOX NEWS poll.

What is it about Fox that’s often heard from the left? They lie and distort? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Steve

August 10th, 2012
9:50 am

Four more years! :)

So – how is the Senate looking?

larry

August 10th, 2012
9:51 am

* polls dont mean everything* . Im pretty sure that someone will come on and post that according to the pea picker, nose picker poll, Romney is up by nine points.

And that all the other polls are liberal polls. And that they are trusting the pea picker, nose picker poll.

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

August 10th, 2012
9:51 am

(In a humorous aside, only one major polling outfit in the last three weeks — the ever-reliable Rasmussen — has Romney leading, with the former Massachusetts governor up by four. See below.)

That is funny. Rasmussen had McCain winning 4 years ago right up until he lost.

When they are the clear outlier among all these polls, again and again, then their methodology has to be brought into question.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 10th, 2012
9:52 am

Would any self respecting proud,true blue, hard working conservtaive vote for a member of the 47%?

Hell yes.

For a person living at the poverty level legally paying no federal income taxes makes them lazy, welfare royalty.

For a person with an abnormally large IRA and Cayman Islands tax shelters it makes them a GOP star.

Mighty Righty

August 10th, 2012
9:52 am

Here is a simple question to determine if the Democrat lies about Romney’s tax returns make any sense at all. Would any of you, file a tax return and then provide a copy of that return to one or more of your co-workers?

Martin the Calvinist

August 10th, 2012
9:53 am

What Jay has failed to mention in all of those polls is the Romney polls better and has large leads on some cases when asked about who’s better on tax policy, which President can manage an economy better, which President can handle the deficit better. Romney leads on all three of those questions, in almost every stinkin’ one of those polls……

larry

August 10th, 2012
9:53 am

It could be Fox News trying to create a panic in the base?

Good point.

And remember who works for Faux, Bush’s brain .

JOE COOL

August 10th, 2012
9:53 am

We all know FOX is an OBAMA propaganda machine…..

Steve

August 10th, 2012
9:54 am

I’ve been saying since last year that Romney would be the nominee and then lose mightily. I stand by that prediction, confidently.

Nate Silver’s site now gives Obama an 80% chance of winning, and he nailed the 2008 election predictions.

Buh by Robme!

larry

August 10th, 2012
9:55 am

Would any of you, file a tax return and then provide a copy of that return to one or more of your co-workers?

If i was running for president, yes.

In fact, he can have a copy of the last 12 years of tax returns.

I have nothing to hide. But……….. im not running for president.

Get Real

August 10th, 2012
9:56 am

The swing has been tied to all the negative and baseless ads that the Obama campaign has been putting out; but they have been effective regardless of facts no doubt. Just wait until after the GOP convention and the Romney campaign can access their general election funds…look out as it is going to get really nasty at that point which is sad for the country but at least the playing field will be somewhat balanced…

Steve

August 10th, 2012
9:56 am

Seeing that I pay a tax rate at twice what Romney pays, and I don’t shelter my money in the Cayman’s or Switzerland, I have nothing to hide either and would gladly share my tax returns with the world. Then again, I’m not running for President either.

JOE COOL............

August 10th, 2012
9:59 am

Repubs gave obama he11 about that darn BC, that this tax return thing is NOT going to go away. A little payback.

Cosby

August 10th, 2012
10:00 am

Ahh…hate the Republicans..lets just go ahead and let the annoited one keep his job so he can ‘RULE”. wonder when I will see a blog on Barry regarding what he is or is not. Romney may not be the best, but he sure beats waht is in there now…one who ignores the constitution, pays off his buddies with taxpayer money, robs from everyone and has nothing to show for it but a lot of debt and high unemployment..yea, lets have that tingleing feeling up and down our legs for the Chicago mofia…go fer it Jay…

straitroad

August 10th, 2012
10:00 am

Wow, Jay is citing a Fox News poll. I guess it’s not such a bad organization when you like the results, huh? Polls at this point are good for discussion and news reporting but not much else. We’ll see what happens after Romney begins his ad campaign. In Obama’s defense, he doesn’t have much else to run except smear ads. He has to do everything he can to avoid his record.

getalife

August 10th, 2012
10:00 am

“Obama’s advantage comes largely from increased support among independents, who now pick him over Romney by 11 percentage points. ”

We Independents decide this election.

Steve

August 10th, 2012
10:02 am

I’d love to see what happens during the debates. Romney will be clobbered there, as he’s been for and against everything over the years, nobody knows what he stands for. Besides, he’s stiff, fake, and not believable.
Romney will get a brief “bump” when he picks the VP, unless it’s Paul Ryan (please please!!)

getalife

August 10th, 2012
10:02 am

Cosby,

w is gone.

Welcome to the Occupation

August 10th, 2012
10:03 am

Does anyone know about the exact dates the calls were made for these latest polls? I suspect that just as important as the Bain/vulture push by Obama was the blithering idiot Romney made of himself in London.

JOE COOL............

August 10th, 2012
10:04 am

“SELF-DEPORTATION”…lol

Get Real

August 10th, 2012
10:04 am

getalife We Independents decide this election.

You are no more an independent than the man in the moon; don’t you get tired of sounding like a ranting boob? Don’t bother answering as I already know the answer

getalife

August 10th, 2012
10:06 am

He will pick Ryan to stand up to attacks on ending Medicare in the ryan plan.

mr,

We are not running for President silly.

the cat

August 10th, 2012
10:06 am

There will be an even bigger bump in the polls when the GOP War on Women is brought out and paraded once again. Folks have a way of forgetting bad things as time goes by so we will do a little reminding of how much the GOP hates women.

Recon 0311 2533

August 10th, 2012
10:08 am

Gallup and Rasmussen both depict a far different polling scenario. The news organizations poll a majority of Democrats in their mix so their polls a skewed accordingly and lack accuracy. Gallup polls all registered voters but does a far better job of ensuring their result accuracy. Beginning in October Gallup will begin polling only likely voters because by then the undecided voters will be making their decision. Rasmussen polls only likely voters. The polls will begin to reflect a more accurate condition by late September. I follow Gallup and Rasmussen the others in my opinion are no where near as accurate.

TaxPayer

August 10th, 2012
10:08 am

“You people don’t need to know any more about dressage than you already know. After all, it’s not as though it would ever be a matter of practical import to you.” – Ann Romney’s innermost thoughts

getalife

August 10th, 2012
10:08 am

Get Real,

People are probably tired of hearing this but I have no party or ideology.

I think country first and find it silly being a blind partisan for a party getting unlimited bribes.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

August 10th, 2012
10:08 am

I’ve given all you (little) people all you need to know.
Now you can leave through the service entrance,
and don’t touch any of the silverware.

best.strategy.evah.teehee

Get Real

August 10th, 2012
10:09 am

War on Women….oh please…cry me a river, what a complete load of crap

Planet Kolob

August 10th, 2012
10:09 am

Get Real – by then, the American public will be so fatigued by all the negative advertising that all the money in the world won’t save Romney. There’s gonna be a whole lot of very expensive white noise coming down the pike!

TaxPayer

August 10th, 2012
10:09 am

Cons love them some Rasmussen. It’s what keeps their hope for change alive.

Jay

August 10th, 2012
10:10 am

Fred, that is untrue. Take Georgia as an example:

“Georgia’s Home Study law (GA Code Ann. 20-2-690-(c)(7), requires that children take a national standardized achievement test every three years, beginning at the end of the third grade. These test scores are NOT to be submitted to public school authorities, but are only to be seen and kept on file for at least 3 years by the parents. There is NO exit exam required of home school high schooled students to graduate.”

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

August 10th, 2012
10:10 am

We had the Birthers, now we have the Taxers

Erwin's cat

August 10th, 2012
10:11 am

I saw on one of the morning news shows that Mitt was up by 5 in one of the swing battle ground states..don’t recall which..

but as I’ve been saying all along….Pats by 3

I would not be surprised if Romney won the popular but loses the EC…or if O win’s both, it is difficult to beat an incumbent no matter…the house and senate on the other hand could easily be given to the R’s

getalife

August 10th, 2012
10:11 am

It was the trust me on my taxes silly cons.

Real Americans will never do that with no trust in government.

Only cons will.

Truth-O-Meter

August 10th, 2012
10:11 am

Jay cited the FoxNews poll, he didn’t say the results must be true because Fox reported it. Jay is no fool.
The president is smart to define Romney now because when Rove and company unlease their billion $$ lie campaign three weeks before the election, few will vote for Obama who “kidnapped his mother”, “robbed the Catholic charity at gun point”,
“pulled his children’s legs off and ate them”, and who knows what else they will manufacture. This is their MOS. Couple that with the wide spread voter suppression tactics around the country, anything can happen.

Here is my promise, anyone getting in my way to vote, won’t hender another human being. It should not be easier to get a gun permit than it is to vote.

JamVet

August 10th, 2012
10:12 am

I strongly oppose the individual mandate at any level. Well, you don’t have to take my word for it. You can take President Obama’s word for it. President Obama said that he designed Obamacare after Romneycare and basically made it Obamneycare. ~Tim Pawlenty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEkVSChQWHM

There’s only one candidate, Gov. Romney, who’s committed that he will repeal the Obamney — the Obamacare tax increase,” Jindal said. “He will repeal Obamacare as soon as he’s elected.”

Though Jindal quickly correct himself, the damage was done. Just an hour later, Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley (D) had already seized on the comments to show the similarities between the two laws.

Speaking on a conference call organized by the Obama campaign, O’Malley said of the tax penalty for people who do not buy insurance, “It was a penalty provision that was also in Romneycare, or as Gov. Jindal just called it, Obamneycare.”

Looks like Tim and Bobby will not be great veep choices, huh?

Get Real

August 10th, 2012
10:13 am

Getalife…I agree that it is silly being a blind partisan but you need to read what you post before you submit as they are the writings of a blind partisan

Paul

August 10th, 2012
10:13 am

My initial response was ‘what a shame that it’s do be decided not on policy, but on personality.”

But it does seem one can make the case, at least with Romney, that the personality elements under attack may very well, based upon what he’s said, translate into policy.

What this shows is it’s better to be aloof and detached (Obama) than nonemphathetic.

Keep Up

“Mitt, proven to have lied before, needs to quit telling us to “trust him” about what he claims is in his taxes and let the American people see what it there.”

I’ll say it again – even if the Financial Accounting Standards Board and a host of others reviewed his returns and found not one thing illegal or shady, Democrats would still make him – not the tax system passed by Congress – the issue.

Mr Right

August 10th, 2012
10:13 am

Why would ANYONE vote for Romney? You know he is EVIL when he causes women to get cancer, even women that he has nothing to do with?

Steve

August 10th, 2012
10:13 am

Rasmussen has been wrong every single time, people. Get a clue hat.

JamVet

August 10th, 2012
10:14 am

War on Women….oh please…cry me a river, what a complete load of crap

Tell that to all of the sluts, prostitutes and FemiNazis out there.

BTW, did you get any of the videos?

getalife

August 10th, 2012
10:15 am

Get real,

You are a blind partisan con and free to be one.

Uncle Billy

August 10th, 2012
10:15 am

My troops will soon be singing “Glory, Glory Hallelujah” and “Marchin’ Through Georgia” like in 1864! Old Abe the greatest of all Republican Presidents squared!!

Ahem

August 10th, 2012
10:16 am

Polls and Trolls. Obama will lose notwithstanding the plethora of outcome designed polling.

Paul

August 10th, 2012
10:16 am

TaxPayer

“You people don’t need to know any more about dressage than you already know. After all, it’s not as though it would ever be a matter of practical import to you.” – Ann Romney’s innermost thoughts”

‘Horses prove to be mysterious miracle workers for disabled’

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Equine-therapy-a-medical-serious-tool-3725446.php

JOE COOL............

August 10th, 2012
10:17 am

No offense Republicans, but you guy really have a sucky candidate. When are you guys gonna stop voting for the RICHEST candidate?

They BOTH suck

August 10th, 2012
10:18 am

Well if you follow Rasmussen and Gallup, you might want to check out thier EC projections.

Neither of them have Romney leading and while close, Obama is leading in most of the swing states in their polls

Next month will be wait until October

Then it will be wait until the election

you get the picture

but you put a great spin on it, even if not grounded in reality

If Romney doesn’t knock out Obama in the debates, it will still be close but the lady will be warming up……….

larry

August 10th, 2012
10:18 am

I follow Gallup and Rasmussen the others in my opinion are no where near as accurate.

Like i said , 30 minutes earlier. And that all the other polls are liberal polls. And that they are trusting the pea picker, nose picker poll.

Get Real

August 10th, 2012
10:19 am

Planet Kolob

Perhaps…but that may not be the case. Regardless, most folks have made up their minds either way specific to the hardcore base. Independents on the other hand I believe can be swayed….only time will tell

And lighten up on the hypocrisy as the Chicago slime machine will do or say anything, absolutely anything, to get re-elected

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 10th, 2012
10:19 am

Erwins cat

Nope…..

I see the Democrats keeping the simple majority in the senate.
However with the loss of a couple of yellow dogs, the gain of a few real progressives and Sen Reid’s serious consideration of changing the filibuster rules (perfectly, delightfully legal) we’ll see a much stronger senate.

In the house the Democrats only need to flip 25 seats. I don’t think it’ll happen. I’ll keep my fingers crossed on that.

getalife

August 10th, 2012
10:19 am

I do love the read the con’s knee jerk reaction to dismiss the truth in a blink of an eye.

After this election, I hope to see you cons get back to normal.

I am concerned you cons can never return to normal.

DannyX

August 10th, 2012
10:21 am

Its all a big conspiracy!!!! Dick Morris has super secret poll numbers that show Romney winning! It will be a landslide!!!

Dick Morris 4 days ago:

“So don’t believe the garbage being put out by the media. The attempt to portray Romney as not catching on and as dropping in the polls is ludicrous. It is, at best, the product of incompetent polling and, at worst, the result of deliberate media bias. But Romney is winning and expanding his lead each week. That’s the real story.”

Congratulations President Romney! Dick Morris says so.

Jefferson

August 10th, 2012
10:21 am

Use them against one another, President Reagans “nice” rules get blowed off.

BILL

August 10th, 2012
10:22 am

Mighty Righty: What you fail to realize, apparently, is that Romney is running for President of the United States. And, he now has no “co-workers” or company. Other Presidential nominees have disclosed their taxes for many years back–why doesn’t Romney? It’s obvious he would put out the fire if Reid’s assertion was not true and release his taxes. Quite likely, Romney paid a very small percentage of taxes on his high income over the years. While this, likely, will not make him a tax cheat, it will further expose the sham of trickle-down economics, and how the system is greatly targeted in favor of the super wealthy–the real class warfare going on since W, and in the Reagan years. Voters would also likely see quite a bit of off-shore stuff. I suspect he realizes disclosure of tax returns would likely doom his chances.

TaxPayer

August 10th, 2012
10:22 am

‘Horses prove to be mysterious miracle workers for disabled’

Those in need of such therapy that are currently on Medicare and Medicaid should most definitely write to Ann and ask for her secrets to getting those stable hand expenses covered. I hear they can work wonders too.

JOE COOL............

August 10th, 2012
10:23 am

“Trump to Have ‘Major Role’ at GOP Convention”

Donald Trump will have a “major role” at the Republican National Convention, an aide to the real estate mogul tells ABC News.

Trump heads to Tampa the day after receiving the Statesman of the Year award from the Sarasota GOP and will be in Tampa to kick off the start of the Republican National Convention on Aug. 27.

stands for decibels (SfBA)

August 10th, 2012
10:23 am

Gingrich et al were told not to look the dressage horse in the mouth

Jay, ya dun earned your pay this week.

getalife

August 10th, 2012
10:23 am

I would check the polls after they correct right before the election like last time.

I will give you cons some hope.

They had McCain up by 10.

sam

August 10th, 2012
10:23 am

what i really want to see is Romney’s 11th grade term paper and his score on the PhysEd fitness test from middle school. that will tell me everything i need to know.

Jefferson

August 10th, 2012
10:23 am

Romney banks offshore, not a image of a US president, but an image of greed that has something to hide.

Get Real

August 10th, 2012
10:23 am

getalife

Not at all, I do tend to be more conservative but I just have a very low BS tolerance meter and you have exceeded the acceptable level with your blind partisan rants

Steve

August 10th, 2012
10:24 am

It’s a fact that men still make more than women on average, a lot more – and there’s not good reason for this. The GOP wants to keep it that way.

JamVet

August 10th, 2012
10:25 am

CBS News) FRANKSVILLE, Wis. – In directing what appeared to be a new level of vitriol toward Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum on Sunday described his rival as “the worst Republican in the country to put up against Barack Obama.”

After a rally at the South Hills Country Club here, Santorum asked Republicans to “pick any other Republican in the country” than GOP presidential front-runner Romney, based on issues that make the former Massachusetts governor “uniquely disqualified” to run against Obama.

What a quandary, huh?

One of the rabid red, meat eating, lunatic fringers or a flip-flopping, milquetoast, socialist RINO from Taxachusetts.

Better than the funny papers…

sam

August 10th, 2012
10:25 am

if ever a first name perfectly described a person it is Dick Morris…the only good thing about him is he talks like my Aunt Ida

getalife

August 10th, 2012
10:26 am

Get Real.

Please show me one post of me being a blind partisan for the dem party.

Thanks.

Steve

August 10th, 2012
10:26 am

But honestly – we STILL have folks demanding Obama’s birth certificate (which has already been proven valid), yet the Dems are “out of line” for asking Romney to disclose his tax returns? Hmmm…hypocrisy, thy name is the GOP.

nelson

August 10th, 2012
10:26 am

It is a forgone conclusion that Mitt will be the next great president of the U.S. so I would like everyone to henceforward refer to Mitt as President Romney. You will be thrilled when a man of his capability is at the helm of this great country. A proven businessman of the very highest moral terpitude and also proven in politics. Mr. President Romney will get us out of this quagmire of high unemployment, runaway deficit increases and a plan for the future [including how to win in the middle east]. Need I say more, he will vacation modestly at his New Hampshire or Lake Michigan summer retreats. A new day coming, you are going to love it.

They BOTH suck

August 10th, 2012
10:27 am

DannyX

I guess Dick Morris was not talking about those liberal outlets such as the WSJ and Fox News (which he works for), that have Romney behind

That is too funny.

Get Real

August 10th, 2012
10:27 am

Not a fan of Dick Morris…he is kind of creepy

Erwin's cat

August 10th, 2012
10:27 am

It’s a fact that men still make more than women on average, a lot more –

This has been debunked several times but still makes for a good bumper sticker huh?

getalife

August 10th, 2012
10:27 am

Joe Cool,

trump is a birther and another reason they lost Independents.

It is like the gop wants to lose.

Jay

August 10th, 2012
10:28 am

I think the word you’re looking for is impetigo, Liberal.

And tempting as you’ve made it, I will offer no further comment on YOUR version of the disease.

Paul

August 10th, 2012
10:28 am

BILL

” It’s obvious he would put out the fire if Reid’s assertion was not true and release his taxes. ”

Same argument used by Issa and Republicans against the Obama Administration over Fast and Furious. Obama won’t release the documents, therefore he has something to hide, therefore he’s done something illegal and he’s hiding the evidence so he won’t get impeached.

TaxPayer

Just strikes me there was an awful lot of knee-jerk ridicule on this topic. Not all that different than what happened when people said “you think those behavior episodes can be linked to what the kid ate?!!?” or “you think people get sick because of little things we can’t even see?”

I daresay if Michelle Obama had been diagnosed with MS and a doctor suggested riding therapy, the news accounts would be looking at it from the angle of why health benefits could occur.

Steve

August 10th, 2012
10:30 am

Erwin – debunked? Really, by whom? Old white men? The data is clear and on the Internets…women are not being paid the same as men. They are paid less. Clearly. Honestly. Yes. Read something. Learn something.

sam

August 10th, 2012
10:30 am

neither party has a stranglehold on hypocrisy, to be a politician is to be a hypocrite.

ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT

August 10th, 2012
10:30 am

ROB-ME is toast, Newt and Rick are pandering moorons…

ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT

August 10th, 2012
10:31 am

ROB-ME has no spine

Brosephus™

August 10th, 2012
10:31 am

In the house the Democrats only need to flip 25 seats. I don’t think it’ll happen. I’ll keep my fingers crossed on that.

I wouldn’t waste the energy necessary to cross my fingers on that one. Gerrymandering has made that almost impossible as there are fewer and fewer seats that are truly contested anymore. The GOP will have the House for the foreseeable future based on redistricting done in 2010. He who controls the state gets to make the rules when it comes to House districts in most states.

They BOTH suck

August 10th, 2012
10:31 am

“neither party has a stranglehold on hypocrisy, to be a politician is to be a hypocrite.”

Very true

bookman parrot

August 10th, 2012
10:32 am

the supposed lead of BHO shows the sheer stupidity of some. terrible unemployment; high fuel costs; high food costs; … etc; yet blindly they follow him; well when the country is a total toilet, then you will have reaped your foolishness.

stands for decibels (SfBA)

August 10th, 2012
10:32 am

I know I’m probably a bit of a broken record here, going to the Nate Silver well, but for what it is worth he says these national polls are no reason for Romney to panic.

(not that Jay was saying Mitt *should* panic–the point of Jay’s piece, that the 2012 primary history is worth revisiting, is utterly valid.)

Anyhow, the money quote from Nate if you’re interested:

And yet, despite all that, I think the importance of these new polls could easily be overstated — and probably will be by some in the news media.

One problem is that the trend toward Mr. Obama in national polls has hardly been uniform. The Gallup national tracking poll has shown a very flat race. And Rasmussen Reports had a swing toward Mr. Romney in its release on Thursday, with his pulling ahead by four points in its survey. Weekly tracking polls from Public Policy Polling and YouGov have also not shown especially good numbers for Mr. Obama lately. If there had really been a shift in the race of the magnitude that the Real Clear Politics average implies — it has Mr. Obama gaining three points on Mr. Romney over roughly the past 10 days — we probably wouldn’t be seeing these contradictory data points.

Perhaps more importantly, there hasn’t really been a lot of news to drive something on the order of a three-point swing toward Mr. Obama. There have been far more momentous news events at earlier stages of the campaign, like the Supreme Court’s ruling on Mr. Obama’s health care bill, or the set of poor jobs reports in April through June, that didn’t seem to move the numbers much at all. So your default position should be one of skepticism toward the numbers having moved very much.

getalife

August 10th, 2012
10:34 am

For the record I am a Clinton voter but when I witnessed our President getting attacked and there was no unity from the gop after a collapse, I decided to stand with our President to save our country.

I am surprised some cons did not do the same since they claimed to be very patriotic.

JamVet

August 10th, 2012
10:34 am

A proven businessman of the very highest moral terpitude.

Hysterical.

I love it when cons try to sound edumacated.

Notwithstanding the obvious vocabulary challenges I’m guessing that terpitude is a mixture of turpitude and turpentine…

Steve

August 10th, 2012
10:34 am

Blindly follow him? Seeing that the stock market is back up, the housing market is turning, jobs continue to be returning, economy keeps improving – why in God’s name would we go back to the policies that got us into this horrendous mess in the first place? Expensive war with Iran? Tax cuts on wealthy and tax increases on middle class? Seriously?

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

August 10th, 2012
10:35 am

Is it just Trump and his spokesman saying Trump will play an “important” role at the RNC? I haven’t heard any insiders say much about the Donald.

Aquagirl

August 10th, 2012
10:36 am

Those in need of such therapy that are currently on Medicare and Medicaid should most definitely write to Ann and ask for her secrets to getting those stable hand expenses covered.

They’d have better luck in the lib’rul democrat People’s Republic of DeKalb, where a communist-marxist greenspace supports an Equine therapy program. It’ll be available until a sacred job provider needs that greenspace for mall expansion.

Paul

August 10th, 2012
10:36 am

bookman parrot

” yet blindly they follow him; well when the country is a total toilet, then you will have reaped your foolishness.”

I’ll offer there’s nothing blind about it – it’s weighing how the candidates tie their values to their policy proposals. As far as reaping your foolishness, if one considers continuing to move away from the policies of the last decade (and earlier) that led us to where we were in the fall of 2008, then we’ll just have to disagree on what constitutes foolishness.

Proud to be me

August 10th, 2012
10:36 am

What Hillary got right about Obama (Jay, when candidates are running against each other . . . yes, they say things that will be used later. Just remember that!!!)

Brosephus™

August 10th, 2012
10:37 am

neither party has a stranglehold on hypocrisy, to be a politician is to be a hypocrite.

Oh so very true!!

Chris London

August 10th, 2012
10:38 am

I would be wary of polls today. This is way of lulling voters into a passivity about the election. If all the people that would be impacted negatively by the election of a International Financial Racketeer like Mitt Romney as America’s President, were to vote, Romney would lose in a landslide. Those of us who work, trying to survive and make ends meet would be foolish to believe that every single one of our votes is not needed to eliminate t one of the most hollow, fraudulent, corrupt and patently offensive candidates for President that this country has ever seen. RMoney is so Nixonian he would make Tricky Dicky blush while Spiro Agnew would dropt the bags of cash being handed to him in his White House office to seek Romney’s advice on how to smile while taking bribes. The worst things said about Romney were clearly by those presently aligned with him in his party. His branding as a hollow, soul less, patently dishonest, fraudulent, con-man with no core principles or values who cares only about Money & Mormonism, is basically true. Everything about this man is a deception based upon a lie. Romney masquerades as a human being. Nevertheless, I do suspect that there will be a massive shift when over $600 million is spent in two months in battleground states by the Romney Campaign against Obama. This will truly be the ugliest campaign we have ever seen. I do not know if that is enough money to make people like Mitt Romney, but it might be enough to make 5% of the electorate decided that its not worth leaving their house to vote. The GOP & Romney will suppress the vote and deflate voter turnout. The fewer people vote the better the odds.

the cat

August 10th, 2012
10:38 am

War on Women doesn’t exist? Tell the Komen foundation losing over 30% of their donation, the president resigning in disgrace all due to being a part of the GOP War on Women. Ask Karen Handel.

Woodstock Mike

August 10th, 2012
10:38 am

Interesting how minorities still support Obama…

“President Obama’s policies have been devastating to minority communities and to the most vulnerable in our society. America is suffering through the longest period of high unemployment since the Great Depression: Unemployment has been stuck over 8 percent for almost three-and-a-half years under Obama, after averaging only 5.3 percent under President George W. Bush. Minority communities have been hit much harder: African-American unemployment is 14.4 percent, and black youth unemployment is an obscene 44.2 percent. Latino unemployment is 11 percent. I recited these figures recently to a gathering of Pacific Islanders in Nevada, which is being crushed by the highest unemployment rate and worst housing crisis in the country. They didn’t need to hear these numbers to know that their community is hurting. If you had tried to tell these folks, three-and-a-half years into the Obama presidency, that their ongoing misery was President Bush’s fault, they would rightly have considered that to be an insult to their intelligence.”