What Gingrich, Santorum, etc. got right about Romney
Back in the heat of the primary season, Republican leaders grew very uneasy when Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Rick Perry began to attack Mitt Romney as an out-of-touch rich guy who built his wealth through “vulture capitalism” (Rick Perry’s term) and was hiding something in his taxes. Among other concerns, GOP leaders recognized that if such attacks on Romney worked, they might end up with Gingrich, Santorum or Perry as their nominee.
That was not an outcome they were willing to risk, so they quickly ruled that line of attack out of bounds.
These days, however, they may be reaping the consequences of that decision. The latest CNN poll has Barack Obama pulling out to a seven-point lead over Romney. Ipsos/Reuters also puts the margin at seven, while Fox News puts it at nine. And as Fox notes, the internals are more worrisome still for Romney:
“Obama’s advantage comes largely from increased support among independents, who now pick him over Romney by 11 percentage points. Some 30 percent of independents are undecided. Last month, Obama had a four-point edge among independents, while Romney had the advantage from April through early June….
“The Obama campaign has spent heavily on advertising attacking Romney’s time at Bain Capital and his tax returns. And it appears to be working. Romney’s favorable rating dropped six percentage points since last month and now sits at 46 percent, down from 52 percent in mid-July. At the same time his unfavorable rating went up five points. Romney’s favorable rating has held steady among his party faithful, but it’s down eight percentage points among independents and seven points among Democrats.”
Moreover, Fox notes, Obama outpolls Romney by eight percentage points on the question of which man is more likely to help people achieve the American dream, which constitutes the foundation of the Romney strategy. And the erosion of support isn’t limited to the party’s nominees:
“While Democrats typically hold a slight edge over Republicans nationally in party identification, this attitude shifts based on events and changing sentiment. These days, voters seem to be even more likely to consider themselves Democrats than Republicans. There has been a five-percentage-point Democratic advantage, on average, in Fox News polls this year. In this poll, the Democratic edge is nine points. That may or may not be on the high side, although it is similar to other recent national polls conducted by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal, which put Democrats up 11 percentage points, and the Pew Research Center, with Democrats up by 13 percent.”
(In a humorous aside, only one major polling outfit in the last three weeks — the ever-reliable Rasmussen — has Romney leading, with the former Massachusetts governor up by four. See below.)
Source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
It’s still early, of course — the campaign holds a lot of unanticipated twists and turns ahead. But for the moment, the line of attack against Romney that Republican leaders ruled off-limits in the GOP primary seems to be working quite well when employed by Democrats. The party’s decision to protect Romney back in January and February — in effect, Gingrich et al were told not to look the dressage horse in the mouth — meant that he was never forced to develop an explanation or defense against such criticism, and it appears that he has yet to do so to this day.
With voters now forming their early impressions of the GOP nominee, that could prove to have been a major blunder.
– Jay Bookman
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Paul
August 10th, 2012
11:37 am
independent thinker
To clarify, I do not care for the strategy of demonizing a person because they availed themselves of all deductions provided by law. The fault, if there is any, is with Congress and the law, not the taxpayer.
I have faulted Pres Obama for not embracing at least part of Simpson-Bowles. Would the Republican House have shut off any efforts at such reform? Of course. But it would at least have demonstrated leadership on the President’s part to forge ahead with such proposals.
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
11:38 am
Recon
Go look up Rasmussen’s EC projections. He has the states that he says are solid & likely one or the other and the swing states.
All you need to do his put you cursor over each swing state and see what Rasmussen is polling. It doesn’t equal a Romney victory. yes polls can change, but betting on all the “What ifs” to go your way is not a good bet.
That’s why Adelson’s casinos/bookies are betting against Romney, even though he personally wants Obama gone.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/election_2012
Still a long way to go in election time frames, but the clock is ticking…………….
“Like sands in an hour glass………..”
Get Real
August 10th, 2012
11:38 am
Aquagirl
Spare me, sounds like you are familiar with creepy so I will let you own that space
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
11:39 am
Paul @ 11:37
I agree 100%. That is why even with all the bs throw at him, I say he has been mediocre.
getalife
August 10th, 2012
11:40 am
One thing is for sure, the cons dare not speak of romneycare or palin was not qualified.
corporate media calls that a gaffe but it is just the truth.
RB from Gwinnett
August 10th, 2012
11:40 am
Do you think Cox deducts Jays entire salary, benefits and expenses as a campaign contribution to Obama?
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
11:40 am
Recon
Didn’t say you did say you were betting. However I was saying do not do so.
As for me, I already have a bet with Bruno.
Loser pays to the winner’s charity of choice.
Win win for everyone
Brosephus™
August 10th, 2012
11:41 am
I do not care for the strategy of demonizing a person because they availed themselves of all deductions provided by law. The fault, if there is any, is with Congress and the law, not the taxpayer.
Amen!!!!
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
11:43 am
Paul: I agree with you about the income tax thing, but I’ll go even further. I don’t think it’s right that Presidents are forced to release their income tax statements in the first place. It’s no more our business than who a President (or candidate) sleeps with. Or prays to (or doesn’t).
East Lake Ira
August 10th, 2012
11:44 am
There are more Dems than Repubs.
Fact.
Deal with it cons.
Jefferson
August 10th, 2012
11:45 am
After living thru President Bush, nothing could be worse, I hope, but with Romney you just can’t tell. With President Obama you know what you get and its been improvement to date and if the GOP would get their head out of their butts and work for the good of the country, the deficit could be addressed if that “really” is a concern, it wasn’t when President Reagan or President Bush lived in the white house.
DannyX
August 10th, 2012
11:45 am
Things are getting real bad for Romney. People just don’t like Mitt. Romney needs a major Republican player to help lift him up, a Republican more popular than he is.
Romney needs to flip flop again and let George W Bush speak at the Republican convention. Yes its that bad.
getalife
August 10th, 2012
11:45 am
I would wager those loopholes will never be closed with unlimited donations making sure that never happen.
I think Americans need to ask themselves, what do they expect in return for those unlimited donations?
BeeJay
August 10th, 2012
11:46 am
Oh yes, people do indeed watch polls, which can easily be manipulated, and all kinds of media, which is definitely manipulated. Lots of people know how to read between the lines of the information they’re being fed (why would you believe everything you hear?), many more don’t want to for fear of what they’ll find out, and the rest are too stupid to wonder about the veracity of the media.
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
11:47 am
RB from Gwinnett
August 10th, 2012
11:40 am
Do you think Cox deducts Jays entire salary, benefits and expenses as a campaign contribution to Obama?
++++++++++++++++++++
And THIS is what passes for witty or cutting to Republicans. RB thinks he has somehow “scored a point” because he has (correctly for a change) identified that Jay Bookman is a left wing OPINION writer.
Wow. It took RB this long to figure it out?
Hey I know. I’m going to be clever too, ya’ll watch this……….
Do you think Cox deducts Kyle’s entire salary, benefits and expenses as a campaign contribution to Romney?
Oh boy howdy. Aren’t I the clever one now. I’m so witty………
RB from Gwinnett
August 10th, 2012
11:47 am
Independent thinker, I’m pretty certain no amount of explaining anything to you could possibly get past your bias, so why bother?
Recon 0311 2533
August 10th, 2012
11:47 am
TBS,
Gallup and Rasmussen are not predicting a Romney win but they’re certainly not predicting an Obama win as you seem to be pretty sure about. Good luck with that and BTW…I know how to navigate electoral maps with a cursor.
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
11:48 am
East Lake Ira
August 10th, 2012
11:44 am
There are more Dems than Repubs.
Fact.
Deal with it cons.
++++++++++++++++++++
Fact? Prove it then.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 10th, 2012
11:49 am
Well, y’all can hold out hope for Romney if you want to, but me, I’m planning to be off of Bookman’s blog the day after the election so I won’t have to hear from No. 1 Foxy Lady. I got a wife and a boss. I don’t need a third person to tell me to go f*** myself. Like I said before, Romney couldn’t get a date if he was the only man on a island with the Women Marines.
Anyhow, I’m hauling and lugging and trying to get you ready to swap weird music tonight. Sorry I ain’t been on here alot in the past couple days. I been keeping track of this PGA tournament over in S. Carolina. Those pros sure play by weird rules. They even putt the ball if they’re only a couple feet from the cup. Heck, me and my buddy Jim Earl and my other buddy Joe Bill use the one-putt rule and we sometimes use a tee from the fairway, but don’t tell Sooth that, he’ll run and blab to the course ranger and try and get us kicked off of the course.
Have a good Friday everybody.
Paul
August 10th, 2012
11:50 am
fair and balanced
“Taxpayer got it right- that is the Karl Rove method of blaming someone else for stinking up the room after his candidate got caught laying one.”
Time for a little off-topic levity. From my university undergraduate days (and it’s not about me, okay?); guy made the unfortunate mistake of asking out an attractive young lady in front of a group. She not only refused the date, she did it in a very put-down way.
Fast forward a couple of weeks. It’s finals time. Guy goes to the library. It’s super crowded. There’s a long table, one seat open… right next to little miss put-down. He takes the seat and after a few minutes, lets loose with a silent but deadly (this guy’s gas could peel the wallpaper off a wall). People start fidgeting as they get the first whiff and this guy grabs his books, stands up, looks at little miss put-down and loudly exclaims “THAT IS SO DISGUISTING!” and stomps away.
Gotta be one of the best paybacks evah -
getalife
August 10th, 2012
11:51 am
RB,
“Independent thinker, I’m pretty certain no amount of explaining anything to you could possibly get past your bias, so why bother?”
Smart move to surrender.
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
11:52 am
Fred
Give them all hell.
I don’t care who it is. You crack me up each time you are on the blog.
Was late to the party last night, but you were in classic form.
Bravo, bravo
getalife
August 10th, 2012
11:54 am
Fred,
The proof is the election of President Obama.
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
11:55 am
TBS: Thank you very much. I’ll be here the rest of the week. Don’t forget to tip the wait staff…………
DannyX
August 10th, 2012
11:55 am
Party identification from Huffington Post using averages from all the polls, yes Rasmussen included.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/party-identification
Steve
August 10th, 2012
11:56 am
Neither Obama or Romney are going to cure what ails us. Congress is what needs fixing. However, Romney at the helm with this teaparty Congress – we’d be screwed. Instant recession, the rich get richer. I’m going with the path we’re on now with Obama, and praying that voters boot these party traitors out of Congress.
ragnar danneskjold
August 10th, 2012
11:56 am
Obama That I Used to Know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJnAp3YxCCw&feature=player_embedded
getalife
August 10th, 2012
11:58 am
I support a choice to dissolve corrupt congress like other countries.
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
11:59 am
Rags
That was pretty funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v4PWW301JM
Project Dreamz
August 10th, 2012
12:01 pm
Are YOU registered to vote?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP6Mcvgdrtg
Brosephus™
August 10th, 2012
12:02 pm
Paul @ 11:50
Paul
August 10th, 2012
12:02 pm
getalife
“I think Americans need to ask themselves, what do they expect in return for those unlimited donations?”
And after honestly assessing that, the answer should be a major factor in their vote decision.
But an honest assessment will lead to a conclusion many will not want to face, so they’ll avoid your question.
Brosephus™
August 10th, 2012
12:03 pm
They BOTH
Fred’s always good for a smile or two. If I ever get a chance to meet him in person, the first round’s on me.
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
12:05 pm
DannyX: Thanks. I don’t usually trust Huff though. Have the Republicans lost that much ground? It used to be roughly 30% dems, 30% Pubs, and 40% indies.
Stevie Ray
August 10th, 2012
12:05 pm
Both parties have more in common than not…they both take half truths to lambast opponents, they both align equally with special interests, they both sell the fact that they can control employment, wall street, lobbyist et al but they truly have little to no power over each and continue to (remember President Trillions “the days of lobbyist controlling DC agenda are over..”…he quickly turned into same old politician..no different from Bush and other predecessors) be defined by campaign funds vs what is good for the people.
Congress is the problem…they are now totally indebted to cash from special interests..they are supposed to represent us but with only 16% approval (on a good day), clearly their interests don’t lie with us….until we get balance budget amendment and limit and amendment to eliminate private campaign funds relying totally on tax dollars…not a thing will change regardless which dope occupies WH.
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
12:06 pm
Bro
He is great. He cracks on everyone. No one is immune from Fred lashing
Doggone/GA
August 10th, 2012
12:06 pm
“What really did it for me was that interview with Anne Romney when she blurted out “We have given you people all the information you need”. ”
Oh come on! If you listen to that interview it is PERFECTLY CLEAR that “you people” meant the media
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
12:08 pm
LOL Rags and TBS: great videos.
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
12:09 pm
Fred
Rasmussen’s breakdown
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/partisan_trends
Stevie Ray
August 10th, 2012
12:09 pm
I’m reading that only 5% are undecided…all this cheese throwing is likely attempt on both sides (mostly Obama) to get out the vote…unlikely he will have same turnout of his victimized voting base as in 2008. Sad state of affairs indeed.
Thulsa Doom
August 10th, 2012
12:10 pm
Paul,
Nice story. We’ll have to call that one revenge of the nerd.
Thulsa Doom
August 10th, 2012
12:12 pm
Has the world been turned upside down today? I see lots of liberals quoting the Fox news poll as if its gospel. I guess its Fox news when it fits their narrative and Faux news when it doesn’t.
dagnabit
August 10th, 2012
12:12 pm
Mighty Righty: Any body would. What do you have to hide?
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
12:13 pm
If I ever get a chance to meet him in person, the first round’s on me.
Hell, I’m ALWAYS available for free beer. Have truck will travel.
Olympics at The Grove? http://thegrovedecatur.com/
Me and a buddy will be heading out shortly lol. Bronze medal for Men’s soccer at 2:45……….
DannyX
August 10th, 2012
12:14 pm
“I don’t usually trust Huff though.”
Fred, I am not a big fan of Huffsterical Post either, but in this case the numbers come from the individual pollsters and have links to the results.
Looking at the results it is easy to see why Rasmussen results favor Republicans, they are currently the only pollster that has Republicans with party id edge.
The trend seems to be away from both parties, more people now consider themselves to be independent.
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
12:14 pm
Thulsa
That is true, however can’t the same be sad for those who watch Fox. They don’t seem to be touting that poll, but will tell you how many viewers they have and how “fair & balanced” they are, etc.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 10th, 2012
12:14 pm
Recon — “Gallup and Rasmussen both depict a far different polling scenario. The news organizations poll a majority of Democrats in their mix so their polls a skewed accordingly and lack accuracy.”
How would you know? What’s your background in stats?
“Gallup polls all registered voters but does a far better job of ensuring their result accuracy.”
And they accomplish that how, exactly? Please tell me.
“Beginning in October Gallup will begin polling only likely voters because by then the undecided voters will be making their decision. Rasmussen polls only likely voters.”
Rasmussen also deliberately skews its numbers towards what they THINK the turnout will be on Election Day. In other words, they use a made-up multiplier. Did you know that?
“The polls will begin to reflect a more accurate condition by late September. I follow Gallup and Rasmussen the others in my opinion are no where near as accurate.”
Unless you have any statistical grounding, I fail to see why your opinion has anything to do with their *actual* accuracy.
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2012
12:15 pm
“I think Americans need to ask themselves, what do they expect in return for those unlimited donations?”
Paul,
First of all, they expect everyone else to accept blame for that smell because their poop don’t stink and
to that payback story.
Brosephus™
August 10th, 2012
12:15 pm
Fred
We’ll have to get together sometime. Gotta take the lil one for her 4 year check up today though. Otherwise, I’d try to meet you there.
Don Abernethy
August 10th, 2012
12:16 pm
Obama is leading that much based on polls?? Are there that many people getting government checks???
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 10th, 2012
12:16 pm
from AP -Romney Moving Away From The Economy To Attack Obama
- Red Meat for the Base
this is a critical signal, bee-cuzz –
there is the political calculation that, if Romney is destined to lose, that Republican focus will switch to the Senate & House races and that means turn-out, turn-out, turn-out.
what they don’t want is, Republicans in blue/purple states to see that Romney is going to lose their state and stay home in protest, because Mitt is not conservative enough.
By throwing red meat to the base this early, it can let the Senate/House Campaigns focus on getting out the faithful by the church bus-full
I think today, they gave up on Rmoney winning, and now will focus on the
House & Senate. Another indicator of this will be the selection of
AynPaul Ryan (or Palin or Tim Tebow heheh) as VP, bypassing
someone who could help the top ticket. Watch for that. That’ll be the ‘tell’
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2012
12:16 pm
Nice story. We’ll have to call that one revenge of the nerd.
I don’t know. Wouldn’t Revenge of the turd be a little more apro pos.
getalife
August 10th, 2012
12:17 pm
Paul,
I don’t see the bp’s (blind partisans) ending but the increase in registered Independents gives me hope for our country.
I think we are at the point of stopping deflection of blame to the parties and placing the blame on the American people for reelecting a congress with a single digit approval rating.
independent thinker
August 10th, 2012
12:19 pm
Doggone/GA – you made my point exactly. They think it is only the media that wants to see those returns! As to those who praise Mitt’s tax saving skills-fine but did you ever think it might effect his
ability to truly reform the tax code and cut those loopholes? McCain took one look and selected the airhead from Alaska instead.
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
12:20 pm
Don Abernethy
August 10th, 2012
12:16 pm
Obama is leading that much based on polls?? Are there that many people getting government checks???
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
And here we have another shining example of the intellectual void that afflicts the Republican party. Good old Donny thinks he has “scored” with his recycled Boortz/Rushbot lie. Well to HIM it’s not a lie lol he actually believes that garbage. Sad isn’t it?
Doggone/GA
August 10th, 2012
12:20 pm
” I don’t think it’s right that Presidents are forced to release their income tax statements in the first place”
Take it up with Romney’s father. He started it.
Thulsa Doom
August 10th, 2012
12:21 pm
Fred,
I see you are back to giving hell to folks on both sides of the aisle. Its always fun to watch and worth the price of admission if its only a round of beer. I would disagree with you on the Huffington post or on several far right and far left sites.
There is some good info on Huffpo as well as far right or left sites. Not all the articles on those sites are BS. The thing is that whether left or right they tend to cover stories that are often true but which support their particular narrative of course. Or they just cover some stories that the dominant media doesn’t have the time and space to cover- they can’t report everything. I just think people have to sift through the BS stuff that is pure unsupported opinion and focus on reading about actual events that the dominant media may have just missed.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 10th, 2012
12:22 pm
Olympics at The Grove?
Damn! If I was in the ATL, I’d meet you there.
getalife
August 10th, 2012
12:23 pm
St Simmons,
Yes, it looks like the gop polling shows they are losing their base so it will be ryan or rubio.
Probably ryan to take the heat for ending Medicare in his plan.
163 more days
August 10th, 2012
12:23 pm
I wonder how O’Bama can give pensions to union workers, but non union workers can do without. I am sure the 20,000 non union workers at Delphi would like to know.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 10th, 2012
12:24 pm
W. Mike — “President Obama’s policies have been devastating to minority communities”
Mighty good impression of a concerned citizen you’ve got there, Mike.
getalife
August 10th, 2012
12:24 pm
Simons not simmons.
My bad.
Thulsa Doom
August 10th, 2012
12:26 pm
“Good old Donny thinks he has “scored” with his recycled Boortz/Rushbot lie. Well to HIM it’s not a lie lol he actually believes that garbage. Sad isn’t it?”
Fred,
What in the hell Boortz/Rushbot lie are you referring to that I supposedly recycled???
Mike
August 10th, 2012
12:26 pm
Mitt Romney wants to be president so he can sell out America to the highest bidder.
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
12:27 pm
Doomy: Yeah you have to balance out Fox with Huff and vicey versa. (Ok maybe not FOX lol, Briebart though). Huff HAS gotten better, I just got used to the constant Bush bashing that made Huff “famous” so it’s hard for me to take her any more serious than I take Michael Moore or Glenn Beck. Or this new guy on WSB, Erick Erickson, what a tool he is……..
Joe Hussein Mama
August 10th, 2012
12:27 pm
Aquagirl — “So get back out in that kitchen and fetch him a sammich while he fixes that Republican war on wimmen, beeyotch.”
I LOLed.
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
12:28 pm
Damn! If I was in the ATL, I’d meet you there.
And you’d be welcome. We’ll be SOMEWHERE to watch the gold medal game tomorrow. In honor of all my illegal alien friends, I’m cheering for Mexico.
getalife
August 10th, 2012
12:28 pm
Fred,
It turns out the HP was telling the truth about w and yes they are corporate media now.
Brosephus™
August 10th, 2012
12:29 pm
Doom
Did you even read what Fred posted?
“Good old Donny thinks he has “scored”
You can thank me later.
Mark in mid-town
August 10th, 2012
12:30 pm
Gallup and Rasmussen poll daily with the largest cumulative sample amounts in their running tallies over a pro-longed period of time. Rasmussen consistently shows the race about even or Romney ahead by a couple of points or so and Gallup consistently shows Obama tied or ahead by a couple of points or so. Rasmussen uses a likely voter model and weighs the poll based on realistic party breakdown. Gallup poll is is among all registered voters. A likely voter model would skew a bit to Romney as polls among all registered voters consistently skew towards the Democrat. Which means that for all intents and purposes, Gallup results are consistently far closer to what Rasmussen consistently shows than to many of these other polss which get released every couple of weeks. I know you don’t respect Rasmussen, but how about Gallup? The Fox News poll from yesterday showing Obama ahead by 9 seems to have over-sampled Democrats by about 5 or 6 points or so. That’s the same situation for many of the polls show Obama comfortably ahead. If you weigh many of the polls showing Obama comfortably ahead by a more realistic party breakdown, then most of these also show a tight race with Obama maybe 2 or 3 points ahead, but still well under 50% which is critical measure since history shows us most undecided voters break against the incumbent.
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
12:30 pm
Fred
Forget the political issues, that Erik Erickson has to be the most boring person on talk radio………….. It is like he is just reading from a script. He is awful. Whether I agree with their politics or not, there a few that are somewhat entertaining, he is far from it
He couldn’t be funny if you burnt one and drank a six pack……..
Heck, burnt two
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
12:30 pm
hulsa Doom
August 10th, 2012
12:26 pm
“Good old Donny thinks he has “scored” with his recycled Boortz/Rushbot lie. Well to HIM it’s not a lie lol he actually believes that garbage. Sad isn’t it?”
Fred,
What in the hell Boortz/Rushbot lie are you referring to that I supposedly recycled???
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Slow down and read what’s on the page DOOMY (as opposed to Donny, AKA Don Abernathy to whom the comment was directed lol). I know you were in a hurry catching up.
Thulsa Doom
August 10th, 2012
12:30 pm
Fred,
Regarding your 12:20 post. Why did you mock me regarding a completely different person’s post- Don Abernathy’s post of 12:16??? I’ve no problem if you want to take a shot at my posts but at least take a shot at an actual post of mine and not somebody else’s post and then insert my name into it.
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
12:32 pm
“In honor of all my illegal alien friends, I’m cheering for Mexico.”
And that my friends will be the funniest post of the day……….
Try as you might, the prize has been given.
hahahahaha
Thulsa Doom
August 10th, 2012
12:32 pm
Fred,
Good God you are right. I better get my damn contacts prescription renewed. Donny, Doomy.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 10th, 2012
12:33 pm
M. in mid-town — “Rasmussen uses a likely voter model and weighs the poll based on realistic party breakdown.”
No. They do not base their weighting on a realistic party breakdown. They base their weighting on what they *think* the turnout will be on Election Day, even though there is no reliable or accurate means of predicting that.
In other words, they use a guesswork multiplier. In the financial world, that’s called fraud.
getalife
August 10th, 2012
12:33 pm
cnn has gone downhill quickly after firing their President.
They are no floundering with no direction.
I think they should fire all analysts, wolf, cafferty and others that give their stupid opinions, and just report the news without bias or the AP.
Let Americans decide what to think not talking heads finding a niche in the market to get paid..
GT
August 10th, 2012
12:36 pm
The truth of the matter is Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Rick Perry would have destroyed the Republican Party if they were nominated. Their message works in a very local market and the image, real as it is, would have tainted the whole party including the tea party as the “touched in the head” bunch they are. They might have lost both houses along with the presidency. Romney was a damage control candidate that has taken some legs because of the horrible economy and the superpac money he has accumulated.
They have tried to keep Romney as buried as possible but as the light hits this stiff, over the top preppy, with no vision only criticism of other men’s program and who himself in real life has had his most successful years doing exactly what O offers. The polls and the truth or lack of it are catching up with him. The country has a hard time electing a man they don’t like and the press has done all it can to hold back what a real bore this guy is til now. One thing Newt could do is entertain, Mitt is like watching a Baptist church service over and over again delivered by a Yankee without his heart being in it. He really doesn’t understand his constituency and neither do I, but I am not running for office representing the nuts.
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
12:37 pm
TD
Send some of that “good stuff” to WSB in care of Erik Ericson. He needs all the help he can get
If you haven’t heard him, tune in around 7 or 8 in the evening. You might agree with him politically, but you will quickly tune out.
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
12:37 pm
TBS: I agree…….. kind of………
I found Herman to be pretty boring as well, it would be tough for me to make a choice between the two for “most” boring.
That’s what hacks me off about Boortz. Until he sold out to the Republicans a few years ago his show was great. Whether or not you agreed with him, he was entertaining. Now it’s all just “Obama sucks” for 4 1/2 hours. No creativity or originality anymore. And without Royal to spice things up no reason to listen. I keep trying but can’t hang long without my mind wandering lol.
getalife
August 10th, 2012
12:39 pm
Radio is for music not learning what to think from talk radio.
That Black Guy
August 10th, 2012
12:39 pm
JOE COOL…………
August 10th, 2012
10:17 am
No offense Republicans, but you guy really have a sucky candidate. When are you guys gonna stop voting for the RICHEST candidate?
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If that’s the case, why didn’t Kerry, Edwards, Kennedy, win?
Tealiban Party
August 10th, 2012
12:39 pm
Woodstock Mike
August 10th, 2012
10:43 am
When you see Democrats say the econmony is trending in the right direction you realize how completely out of touch these liberals are with reality. You guys need a lesson on economics.
I see Woodstock Mike (like many of the other cons on here) long for the good ol’ days of W. You know, when the economy was contracting at a rate of -8.9% and we were shedding 750,000 jobs a month.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 10th, 2012
12:39 pm
TBS — “Send some of that “good stuff” to WSB in care of Erik Ericson. He needs all the help he can get”
“If you haven’t heard him, tune in around 7 or 8 in the evening. You might agree with him politically, but you will quickly tune out.”
I was home sick a couple of days earlier this year, and he was apparently filling in for Neal Boortz (our clock radio is set to WSB). Geebus cripes, what an incredibly boring man. He put me to sleep quicker than Nyquil.
independent thinker
August 10th, 2012
12:39 pm
What difference does any of this make in Georgia????????
The GOP is going to select electors who will vote for Romney and there is nothing any voter does that will make a difference. We are as red a state as you can get.The campaign is irrelevant for the presidency in this state. Until the electoral college is abolished and the popular vote determines the presidential election, we do not have a true democracy. Picking electors was left up to the state legislatures in the Constitution back when states had more power.
The same for picking Senators – it was left to the states legislatures or governors to pick Senators . Then we got a constitutional amendment for popular voting of Senators. Maybe we should abolish that amendment – no special interests holding dollars over the Senators heads- just beholden to the state government. Can’t be any worse than what we got now
Brosephus™
August 10th, 2012
12:40 pm
Fred
Did you see Dodge’s announcement about NASCAR?
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
12:41 pm
Fred
I still listen to Boortz at times, but you are right.
He always had that “edge” about him, but now it is just vitriol almost the entire time. Doesn’t seem to have that humor he once had.
And ratings will sink with Cain. He might be a great business and ladies man, but a talk show host?
He was boring when he had Ericson’s spot, now they are going to put him on in the morning.
Thulsa Doom
August 10th, 2012
12:41 pm
Fred, they both suck,
Eric Erickson? I listened to part of his show once or twice. He was talking about the city of Atlanta’s population and he was swearing up and down it had to be like 5 million. Idiot. The metro population is near 5 million. The city of Atlanta itself is only something like 400k. i wanted to reach through the radio and smack the fool that he couldn’t figure out the distinction.
getalife
August 10th, 2012
12:44 pm
erickson tries to hide his bias for his gig on cnn.
I think Americans tuning into talk radio or corporate media”pundits” are intellectually lazy.
Too lazy to read and decide for themselves.
Fred ™
August 10th, 2012
12:45 pm
GT: The truth of the matter is Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Rick Perry would have destroyed the Republican Party if they were nominated.
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I think that would be a GOOD thing actually GT. The Republican party has really lost it’s way and has lost touch with all but a few radical right wingers. There isn’t a very good “check and balance” on the left wing. As I keep saying, it scares me when the Democrats are the saner of the two parties lol.
We actually NEED both parties for sanity and balance. Given their way the Republicans would have us in some sort of fascist theocratic state while given THEIR way the Democrats would have us all in some warped Karl Marx Utopian view of a egalitarian slave state with “free thought” limited to what they want you to think (that last applies to the Republicans too).
What a long strange trip it’s been. I need to burn one or two of them things TBS was talking about lol, excepting I’m too old for that stuff any more.
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
12:45 pm
TD
I’m dogging the dude out, but must give him a little credit. Just a few years ago, he was a lawyer in Macon.
He started redstate.com and is moving on up. Syndicated talk show, commentary on CNN and a popular website, especially for the politicos into the legislative details and nuances.
He is making that “paper”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 10th, 2012
12:45 pm
Boortz?
Give. Me. A. Break.
He’s been doing a rehash of the same shows when he was on WRNG in the 70s.
He’s a faux populist douchebag asshat.
That Black Guy
August 10th, 2012
12:46 pm
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2012
10:22 am
‘Horses prove to be mysterious miracle workers for disabled’
Those in need of such therapy that are currently on Medicare and Medicaid should most definitely write to Ann and ask for her secrets to getting those stable hand expenses covered. I hear they can work wonders too.
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You do realize that you do NOT have to OWN a horse to take part and benefit from the therapy.
Wait! What am I thinking?
Please continue to make fun of Mrs. Romney’s MS therapy.
After all, it’s politics.
Being a jackhole is perfectly acceptable.
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
12:46 pm
Fred
I’m too old as well, sort of, but have my memories or lack of them,,,,,,,
Thulsa Doom
August 10th, 2012
12:47 pm
they both suck,
The only con I listen to on the radio from time to time is probably Limbaugh and he doesn’t come on till 1 in the afternoon. Beck I don’t think is even on the radio and he’s boring anyway. Now I will listen to Boortz on occasion as its priceless when a liberal calls in and Boortz just skewers him and makes him realize just how dumb he sounds. I get in an hour or 2 of Limbaugh a week maybe but haven’t heard any Boortz in a month or 2. But I think the real reason I don’t listen to much con radio is all the commercials. Wayyy to many relative to just regular music channels so why listen.
They BOTH suck
August 10th, 2012
12:48 pm
TBG @ 12:39
Don’t look for a response on that one
hahahaha
Joe Hussein Mama
August 10th, 2012
12:49 pm
TBG — “You do realize that you do NOT have to OWN a horse to take part and benefit from the therapy.
Wait! What am I thinking?
Please continue to make fun of Mrs. Romney’s MS therapy.
After all, it’s politics.
Being a jackhole is perfectly acceptable.”
TBG, was it not you who posted a couple of links the other day that demonstrated that this equestrian therapy really is a for-real thing?
And did you not also post a link that showed that the Romneys only stood to be able to write off a few bucks for their horse-related expenses?
Might be time to post those links again.
FWIW, lefty friends, I think the Romney horse angle has little to no value and is mean-spirited to boot. Perhaps TBG will oblige us with the same links he posted earlier this week.
Thulsa Doom
August 10th, 2012
12:50 pm
“Those in need of such therapy that are currently on Medicare and Medicaid should most definitely write to Ann and ask for her secrets to getting those stable hand expenses covered. I hear they can work wonders too.”
Nope. It doesn’t get any slimier than that. Pushing new frontiers in classlessness I see. Stay classy.
That Black Guy
August 10th, 2012
12:50 pm
Steve
August 10th, 2012
10:24 am
It’s a fact that men still make more than women on average, a lot more – and there’s not good reason for this. The GOP wants to keep it that way.
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Yep, ONLY the GOP …… wait, what?!?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/17/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-lawandlife-idUS152134247220120717
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/07/survey-female-staffers-make-less-than-men-in-both-128792.html
GT
August 10th, 2012
12:51 pm
What I hate is the weak radio station carrying Georgia Tech sports. You get pass 14th street and it starts going on you. When did radio get so cheap you can’t pick up a traditional game of football but can hear these Hitler type rants all over the state. They make money they must be right. I am totally surprise someone hasn’t figure out how to show public executions. WSB would be right there with a play by play, maybe Boortz’s humor might come back enough to be the color man.