One pro-Obama ad reveals a lot about 2012 campaign

They come into a company and make ruthless, heartless decisions without regard to the human cost, decisions that those with a longer history or commitment to the company perhaps cannot bring themselves to make

And some on this blog call Jay a “leftie”?

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Aaaaand…..Ms. Saul scores a gold medal in the 100 meter faceplant! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

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Good morning Jay. Just thought I would say this morning you are the best and most talented Opinion writer at the AJC. Thank you for being here.

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I should mention, again, that this ad was called “not accurate” by CNN, but they have not said that about other clearly inaccurate ads on the Romney side, nor have they called any Obama ad “accurate” when it was.

Some of us might call that CONSERVATIVE BIAS.

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In an era of increasingly no-holds-barred capitalism, do we also slash unemployment insurance, job training, Medicaid benefits, Social Security and ObamaCare, so that individuals are even more fully exposed to the cruel caprices of free enterprise?

yes. because you see, if you don’t, then Goopers run around screaming “100 million on de WELFAREZ!!”

also too, you might not get invited to Karl’s for pheasant.

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Jay – so are you saying that since capitalism is so brutal the govt should be more “compassionate” or be a safety net for those affected by the harshness of the capitalist society?

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Sounds like Romney hired Newt’s team of winners!

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Then you have masburn gop rep refusing to talk about robmecare.

I see a trend brewing and a new commandant from the gop.

Thou shall not speaketh the truth.

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Wonder what all the parents of the soldiers killed in Afghanistan the past few months after this white house announced a pull out date and leaving our men and women over there with no clear mission getting picked off one by one…..Just wondering.

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“This is not rocket science, even if the geniuses on the Supreme Court are unable to grasp it.”

Come on Jay. One minute you are signing the praises of the SCOTUS (ObamaCare) and the next you blasts them (Campaign spending).

Libs blasts Bain for “closing down businesses” but ignore Obama in his forcing GM dealerships to close down as part of his bail-out.

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Peadawg: From earlier: Obama isn’t upset that the military get three extra days to vote. He is filing against the law in Ohio that restricts early voting, when it was previously available to everyone 3 days before the election, is now ONLY available to active duty military AT POLLING PLACES. In other words, these active duty military have to be on Ohio soil living in Ohio districts while being active. Also, Veterans, reservists, etc do not get this same ability – their early voting privileges were taken away. None of this applies to mail in ballots either from within state or from overseas military.

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Erwin’s Cat: I’ll remember that next time someone makes a “liberal bias” argument under the same umbrella.

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Here is the truth as it is known. The worker was laid off 7 years before his wife was diagnosed with cancer. The worker was offered a cash buy out when he was laid off. The wife had health insurance. The worker obtained another job working for a school system where health insurance that would have covered his wife was offered. The worker refused the health insurance. Romney was not at Bain Capital when any of the above took place. The worker is a paid campaign worker for Obama and has made several campaign ads for Obama. The worker was captured on tape during a conference call with officials of the Obama white house which is now dishonestly claiming they didn’t know about the false, malicious slime throwing ad. The Obama campaign, a year ago, established a strategy of destroying Romney’s character because they cannot talk about the Obama acomplishments as president because there are none. This lie is part of that campaign of disinformation and character assasination. Had the worker’s wfe been covered by Obamacare, the death panel would probably have refused her treatment based on the plan’s cost vs. probability of success odds. Most likely, knowing the normal speed of a government agency, the panel would probably not have gotten around to authorizing her treatment in the twenty two days she lived after the cancer was discovered. The real shame is that Democrats are unable to face the fact that Obama is disperate, will exagerate and lie at evry oppotrunity. The man has no character.

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Liberals are under the mistaken assumption that corporations exist for the sole reason to provide jobs for unemployed and to serve as some sort welfare system for those who are employed. Poorly managed companies do not make it in the real world. Bain Capital was not in the business of providing some kind of nirvana for those companies that it took over. If they are not making money, there is no reason for them to exist. That’s the way business works. That harsh reality is hard to accept but reality often is.

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“When you get attacked for telling the truth, you might want to look for a new party cons”

…still waiting for the new darling of the libs – none other than Elizabeth “pocahontas” Warren – to tell us about her Indian upbringing.

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I just read Paul’s post to me downstairs then I came upstairs to read Jay’s comments. I can truthfully say that I was taken in by the ad. As Jay said, “the underlying theme of the ad is powerful and emotionally resonant.” Yes, it got to me.

I guess I am more afraid of a “United Corporate States of America”, and I am of anything else in this world. Corporations do not base their business decisions on national concerns nor the concerns of their people. Bottom line is their goal and their God.

Mitt Romney represents a greater danger to the America I fought for, bled for and believe in than any Middle eastern group or nation could ever hope to be. I do not want to lose my rights to the Bottom Line of corporations. I certainly do not want to lose our ability to help those who needs it. Corporations are NOT people and Mitt Romney is NOT the answer for America.

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“That brings us back once again to the central question of the 2012 campaign: If we are to live in an Bain-type economy in which brutish efficiency is the primary goal and the human impact is not to be considered in decision-making, what steps if any should government take to protect individual Americans from the worst vagaries of that process?

In an era of increasingly no-holds-barred capitalism, do we also slash unemployment insurance, job training, Medicaid benefits, Social Security and ObamaCare, so that individuals are even more fully exposed to the cruel caprices of free enterprise? Or do such programs become even more important in an era in which jobs, companies and indeed entire industries can disappear quickly?”

And that’s what it’s really all about.

Romney’s time as governor would give hope that’s not the direction he’d take as an elected official; however, the question is, has that Romney been eclipsed by the candidate we now see? If the answer is “I don’t know” then the next question is “do we want to gamble on what we now see?”

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“… what steps if any should government take to protect individual Americans from the worst vagaries of that process?”

Might ought to ask the 20,000 salaried (non-union) employees of GM/Delphi how well the government protected them and their pensions during the government forced “auto bailout” first.

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PD, about military voting? Please read this.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-08-07/fact-check-obama-ohio-military-voting/56859922/1

Conservative blogs and opinion pieces have also misrepresentedthe case, claiming in headlines that President Obama was suing to “restrict military voting.” A fundraising email appeal from a group called Special Operations Speaks — which wants to “remove Barack Obama from the White House” — wrongly says that Obama “deploys army of lawyers to suppress military’s voting rights,” claiming that “Obama needs the American military to not vote, so he has set out to make it as difficult as possible for them to do so.” But that’s not what the Obama lawsuit aims to do at all.

Contrary to conservative claims, the Democratic lawsuit seeks to restore early voting “for all Ohio voters.”

You still want to call this a “hissy fit”? I hope not.

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Sorry. Gingrich says there is “no proof” that the welfare argument from the Romney camp is true.

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“The Obama campaign, a year ago, established a strategy of destroying Romney’s character because they cannot talk about the Obama acomplishments as president because there are none.”

Not intended to be a factual statement

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This one gets the top pinoccho award. Jay begins by condemning the ad and then further on supports it. Jay, does, however, correctly reveal the Obama ideology along with his own. They’re both committed Socialists.

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I forced myself to listen to Rush’s and Coulter’s rants about this yesterday, and their apoplectic rage was good for the soul.

Is an open convention too much to ask for at this point?

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Yes, vulture capitalists (like vultures) perform a valuable service by devouring a carcass before it can infect other scavengers with disease.

Bain/Romney is the symbol of our times.

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Adam, Obama needs to leave military voters alone. He must have forgotten that they are a protected group under federal law.

“Candidates can claim to have no knowledge of or control over such advertisements, and thus no responsibility for it.”

Except in this case Obama had knowledge of this individual and lied when he said he didn’t.

” The republicans are saying the gentleman in this ad was blaming Romney for his wife’s death. I don’t agree.”

Of course you don’t .

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The Democrat party is the only political party who has ever attempted to keep our military personnel from voting. This policy was established by the Democrats in the Florida Gore/Bush vote recount when the Democrats tried to throw out the military votes and not count them. Their action in Ohio is merely an extension of the Democrats trying to not allow military votes to be counted.

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Corporate profits are at all time highs in the USA due to Obama policies. How did that lead to massive layoffs?

Drilling in the USA is up 300% since Jan 2009.

Exports are at record highs.

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T. T. Guy — “I will have to appear before a Death Panel to request permission to have my teeth cleaned at 4 am by a blind Eskimo with a harpoon.”

Nice bit of hyperbolic writing there. Shame it doesn’t bear any resemblance to reality.

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““The Obama campaign, a year ago, established a strategy of destroying Romney’s character because they cannot talk about the Obama acomplishments as president because there are none.”

Not intended to be a factual statement”

…have yet seen an Obama “Forward” ad trumpeting his “reducing the debt in half, being a more transparent Washington, thousands of green jobs, a solid energy policy, less than 8% unemployment, etc., etc.”

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Obama ad about one of his accomplishments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayILjfYs7xw

What’s that about how he can’t talk about his accomplishments because he has none?

Want to see a litany of positive ads he’s run on TV? You know, the ones he CAN’T do because he HAS to be negative all the time to win?

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So where was all this reporting on the inaccuracy of campaign ads back when the very definition of “swift-boating” was being formed, and a decorated military officer was being slandered by a supposedly patriotic political party?

It’s funny how much the so-called “liberal media” bends over backwards to fact check these ads when they come from the left, but allows complete and total fabrications to slide from the other side.

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Ahem — “The fact that Obama himself has not denounced this scurilous attack tells many voters what kind of character they are dealing with in Obama. Nobody but his inside hacks and dishonest sycophants find anything acceptable about this tactic and those chickens will come home to roost.”

I certainly hope they do, and in the same way they roosted in 2004. (laughing)

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I agree with Peadawg’s observation about Jay in this particular post. It reminded me of the typical liberal/progressive/democrat non-apology apology. Sort of like the high school jock apologizing for grabbing the girls butt and then commenting on how good it looked and that she was responsible and shuld be ashamed for tempting him. And the head coach agrees and the stud plays on.

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A couple of points about Bain. Bain largely bought troubled companies at discounted prices who had potential value if the problems could be turned around. No company turned around troubled companies better than Bain and Romney was a brilliant and visionary CEO of that company. Romney’s reputation as a uniquely talented problem-solver and turn-around artist was why he was turned to when severe problems arose with the 2002 Winter Olympics. Don’t know if those exceptional talents would translate into the presidency as I think Romney is a political stiff. Regardless, the truth is that Romney and Bain saved a heck of a lot more jobs than were lost. As well, Bain under Romney operated during a time when the U.S. economy was functioning on all cylinders. That means that in most cases, those who lost jobs could very easily find other jobs, a heck of lot easier than today after Obama’s policies have been in place for near 4 years.

The corrupt liberal msm, in clear conjunction with the Obama Campaign, has helped perpetuate the following 2 narratives. First, the economic problems of today are Bush’s fault. Then when that got tiring and started to lose traction, the narrative shifted to today’s economic problems being the fault of evil “predators” such as Bain and Romney. Obama is responsible for nothing. Just unbelievable dishonesty, but straight out of the Saul Alinsky playbook.

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Obama the “Grim Reaper” !

“1. There’s a well-established relationship between a nation’s prosperity and the lifespan of its people (see Figures 1 and 2 in my 1992 article in the Journal of Regulation and Social Cost).

2. Obama’s policies have dampened growth in the United States (according to data from the Congressional Budget Office and the St. Louis Federal Reserve Bank, actual GDP (in today’s dollars) is $836.6 billion below potential GDP).

3. Based on these two simple facts, we can conclude that the foregone growth is causing needless premature deaths.”

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/danieljmitchell/2012/08/09/obama_policies_killed_59757_and_counting/page/full/

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I see that some have difficulty comprehending that while the specific message may have some issues, the underlying concepts that the message tries to convey do have merit.

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Saul Alinsky! Drink!

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M

August 9th, 2012
10:38 am
So if there’s outrage over Obama’s possible knowledge of this ad or the people in it, surely there is proportional outrage over how Sheldon Adelson is hosting fundraisers for Romney and is constantly in his ear about pro-Israeli issues while donating huge sums to a pro-Romney super-PAC, right?

APPLE, meet ORANGE.

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“Yes, because if you are an official you’re either ALWAYS right or you’re ALWAYS wrong, no in between. ”

of course, the ironic thing is that JUST DOWNSTAIRS, he was saying that he didn’t like it when some peopel are portrayed as always good / always bad.

oy to the vey.

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Hum, no takers on discussing the blood on Obama’s hands. There’s plenty. Ask away.

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K71 — “Government regulation does not a profit make.”

And the point goes WHOOSHing right over your head.

“You can regulate a company or a corporation until the moon turns blue and it does not ensure that the company will stay in business.”

Exactly my point. If corporations are going to f**k employees and say ‘well, that’s just business,’ then prepare for their employees to elect representatives who will change the way business is done.

“And if a company fails, all of those benefits go up in smoke.”

Given the corporate-driven cutbacks in employee benefits over the last 20 years, you can spare me this line of argument. It’s a sure loser for your argument.

“That is unless you are like Government Motors where the unions vote themselves what they want because they own the controlling stock. The harsh reality is that if a company fails for any reason, that “general public” that you rail on about is a non starter. It won’t matter.”

If a company screws its employees in order to get ahead, eventually the employees (read: the public) will figure it out and push back. You’re beginning to see this, post-2008. Business interests ignore this reality at their peril.

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I saw the ad, and it is a highly decpetive if you choose to dissect it that way. People however are so dense that they don’t see the larger issue, and I think it was puposefully done to underscore the point. Opponents of the POTUS would love to throw this on Obama like hot grits, but the truth of the matter is, this came from a “SUPERPAC”! This is the VERY thing that Obama stood up in his first State of The Union and warned the American people about what the Supreme Court did in ruling the way it did in the Citizen’s United case. He told all of us that money was going to flood the system from “anonymous” sources to inlfuence (and basically BUY) elections of the future, no matter the cost (in cold hard cash ot trufh). But noooo.. his detractors only sought to mutter “not true” (Alito), and scream “you lie!”

Well, the chickens have come home to roost. Deal with it!

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You guys know this means nothing, right? Honestly, you know Mitt Romney stands absolutely ZERO chance of getting elected, right?

I want you to seriously examine the amount of Mitt Romney signage you see around your area. Now, compare that to the number of McCain/Palin from 2008. The contrast is stunning, IMO, but feel free to disagree with that.

There isn’t a soul that is excited about Mitt Romney (which, how could you be…) and Republicans know it. Obviously, the thought of defeating Obama is of interest to Republicans, but it was in 2008 also. And people actually LIKED John McCain. Couple that with the inherent power of incumbancy and well……Multiple-choice Mitt probably shouldn’t quit his day job.

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“Whether or not the law gets overturned, the active duty military still get early voting.”

I get that. But he’s forgotten that the military has always had special voting privileges that others don’t have under federal law. The Democrats and the GOP know that Ohio is critical and they’ll do anything to get that vote.

Jay, this blog kind of reminds me of when someone says “I’m not racist but…”. Meh, I’ll see y’all later.

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I hope Mitt quits his day job, seeing as “campaigning for President” has been his day job for the last six years or so (and people STILL don’t like him, or know much about him).

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I’m a liberal 10:34

“Anyone gonna write a story or research the millions who have lost their health insurance due to the policies of this Administration, who have caused massive layoffs? ”

What policies of this administration have caused millions to lose health benefits and jobs?

Are you sure you’re looking at the correct administration?

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” want you to seriously examine the amount of Mitt Romney signage you see around your area. Now, compare that to the number of McCain/Palin from 2008. The contrast is stunning, IMO, but feel free to disagree with that.”

Probably do better to look at polls than signs IMO, Scuba. Just ask the TSplost people.

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MiltonMan: Another Obama TV ad on his jobs RECORD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnspxInJxHs

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MiltonMan: Obama Ad on his auto bailout RECORD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgjTYFE2aYc

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M

August 9th, 2012
10:50 am
I hope Mitt quits his day job,…

He will, on January 20, 2013. Then he will work days, nights, and weekends trying to fix this damn mess that the Most Incompetent has created.

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Seems to me that the denial of such a thing as RomneyCare by the Republicans is just plain deceptive and brutally unfair to Romney. I mean, it is his one true accomplishment.

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Compromise

Your point is a fair one, but I think the signage is more telling in a national election — specifically a presidential election. People are supposed to be ‘excited’ about their candidate. At least to some degree. And I mean, good heavens…is ANYONE inspired by this guy at all?

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HUSSEIN………..” They had to agree”….. That’s pretty funny……On a picket line with no cars being built is a pretty powerful position to be in…..Thus more and more robots in factories and less and less Democrats I’d say.

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I trust I’ve made my point.

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Peadawg: Why do you believe that Obama is doing something negative to Ohio military voters when he clearly is not?

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Mark in Mid-town: “Regardless, the truth is that Romney and Bain saved a heck of a lot more jobs than were lost”

Got any stats on that rosy claim?

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One cannot be surprised that the most scurrilous, dishonest, slimey, political ad ever run by a sleazy, corrupt, political campaign would find favor by Obama and Jay. Shame on you.

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I’m a liberal sounds more like one of the eighty to me. Definitely not management material.

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to Alex at 10:39 Am — With regard to the so-called “swiftboating” of John Kerry in 2004: President Bush never did anything but praise Kerry for his Vietnam Service. Bush was quite generous with his praise. Contrary to the dishonest narrative created by the liberal msm, The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were not a Republican Party group nor part of the Bush Campaign. That group was comprised of Vietnam Vets of various political party affiliations who had one thing in common. They could not stand John Kerry and didn’t think Kerry had been honest in the past regarding the Vietnam War and they didn’t think he was fit to be president. The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were people who lent their own names to their cause and made the charges under their own names. Every one of them faught in Vietnam and many were decorated veterans as well. People can decide for themselves whether they think the various charges they made about Kerry were true or not, such as them accusing Kerry of lying about being beyond Cambodian lines on Christmas Eve of 1968, or about them questioning whether Kerry deserved his medals.

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The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were not a Republican Party group nor part of the Bush Campaign.
and Bush winked and said “they should stop.”

I remember it very, very well.

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I do think it’s sad that Romney has to shun his own achievement because of partisan politics. In a different universe Romney would have been very proud of the fact that the Obama administration patterned much of their health care plan after his own.

And although the Affordable Care Act is not without its flaws there is one undeniable benefit. It will save lives. Lots of them. For a party that calls itself pro-life the Republican Party should be ashamed.

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FrankLeeDarling

I’d say it’s more like a company chief operating officer implemented policies that weakened cyberseccurity, then when customer data was breached and accounts infected, the account holders blamed the guy from Geeks on Call for not getting rid of the infection quick enough and restoring all the data to just the way it was.

’cause the customers liked the company COO and didn’t like the Geeks on Call guy -

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Gasp! In inner tribal, patisan, Us vs. Them, and we’re better instinct is coming out again.
Obviously, your very reptilian brained.

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Just one observation llibs,

you guys are killing yourselves. Romney paid no taxes, he murdered, wants to take away all womens rights, wants to take us back to the cave man days.

you are making yourselves look very desperate and less trustworthy than you would have us believe Romney is.

just saying

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Mighty Righty

“One cannot be surprised that the most scurrilous, dishonest, slimey, political ad ever run by a sleazy, corrupt, political campaign would find favor by Obama and Jay. Shame on you.”

You may want to pause and reread Jay’s post.

He said in it’s specifics the ad is deceptive and brutally unfair.

He used the add and the charges/countercharges to illustrate two competing ideologies and what they would mean for the country. That’s the issue.

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I’m a liberal,

Your decision to try to get in on the growing home construction business in January 2007 does not reflect poorly on anyone other than yourself.

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wait now, you want me to be ‘outraged’ or feel guilty ’cause the dirty
lyin stinkin bully got cheapshot-ed?

well hold your breath & wait heheh….keep holdin

Ohio turns blue outside the margin of error.
Kaine moves ahead of Macaca in Virginia.
Where did your shiny November goooo, cons?

http://www.electoral-vote.com

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“Peadawg: Why do you believe that Obama is doing something negative to Ohio military voters when he clearly is not?”

Because if everyone is allowed to vote under the same rules then the military no longer has “special” voting privileges?

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Mama Says: you guys are killing yourselves. Romney paid no taxes, he murdered, wants to take away all womens rights, wants to take us back to the cave man days.

just saying

I don’t suppose you’d like to analyze all the ads Romney puts out and the ones coming from PACs on his side and tell us how much those ads don’t throw hyperbolic attacks at Obama and are generally positive and uniting, would you?

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Doggone: Because if everyone is allowed to vote under the same rules then the military no longer has “special” voting privileges?

That is my suspicion. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense does it?

No way in hell am I “agreeing to disagree” with that. If that is what he thinks, he is plain WRONG.

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Welcome ot the Occupation writes: Mark in Mid-town: “Regardless, the truth is that Romney and Bain saved a heck of a lot more jobs than were lost”

Got any stats on that rosy claim?
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It’s not possible to come up with such stats. But let’s apply a little common sense. Romney ran Bain during a period of incredible job growth and low unemployment in the United States. Bain’s great skill was in fixing troubled companies who were floundering or failing but that had inherent underlying value if their problems could be fixed. In other words, companies that would have gone under ended up being saved by Romney and Bain. While plenty of jobs ended up being lost, plenty of others which would have been lost if not for Bain ended up being saved. Investers made tons of money. Those gains ended up creating capital that could then be used to make other investments which helped the economy grow further in the aggregate. Additional new jobs were then created in the aggregate in these other areas. Again, the economy and job creation was firing on all cylinders during the time Romney was running Bain. It’s beyond silly to believe that Bain during the time Romney ran it caused more jobs in the aggregate to be lost than created or saved.

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“Please don’t tell us about killing Bin Laden again. That was Bush’s polices that set that up, not his”

ohmyeffinggod.

“bush’s policies” set up killing Bin Laden???

what? he created the SEALs???

and, while we’re at it … it was Bush’s policies that led to GOOD things, but not the economy falling apart …

laugh.

effing.

riot.

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List Obama’s accomplishments? Here you go. Knock yourself out:

http://bit.ly/bvEVyU

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Everthing was going so good before Obama, I’m surprised we didn’t demand President Bush stay on for 4 more years even if the Constitution limits the President to two terms.

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Poor MiltonMan must be crying tears of joy over the positive ads I gave him.

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Adam

August 9th, 2012
10:53 am
MiltonMan: Another Obama TV ad on his jobs RECORD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnspxInJxHs

You drank the Kool Ade! More lies by Obama! He claims to have created 4 million jobs. As of this A.M. there are 330 thousand fewer people employed in the United States than when Obama took office, so any jobs “he” created were replacement jobs that “he” lost. As far as the auto indusrty jobs he claims to have saved, his actions caused more job losses than Bani Capital ever lost. More than a thousand dealerships were closed and tens of thousands of those jobs were lost just to mentioned a few. Manwhile, GM continues to lose money(our money) hand over fist. The actual cost to we taxpayers will never be repaid, and was a gift of our money the the U.A.W. union and Chrysler was given to Fiat. I challenge anyone to look at the ad cited where mortage foreclosures continue at record rates (see todays news), the national debt has been more than doubled, the unemployment rate remains above 8% 3.7 yaers after Obama took office. There are no signs of economic recovery and the Obama quotes of him warning that we should not expect things to get better are well known in spite of the lies in the ad.

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Ima Librul — “HUSSEIN………..” They had to agree”….. That’s pretty funny……”

I accept your implicit concession.

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“Please don’t tell us about killing Bin Laden again. That was Bush’s polices that set that up, not his”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o

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Mighty Righty: As of this A.M. there are 330 thousand fewer people employed in the United States than when Obama took office,

Incorrect. That’s since ALL of January’s numbers were in. And here are more facts for you to digest on this issue:

The jobs report indicates that 163,000 new jobs were added in July, with 9,000 lost in the public sector, 172,000 gained in private. The change for May was revised upward from 77k to 87k new jobs, but June was revised downward from 80k to 64k.

Total Jobs in January 2009: 133,561,000
Total Jobs in February 2009 (first full month after Obama takes office): 132,837,000
Total Private Jobs in January
2009: 110,985,000
Total Private Jobs in February 2009 (first full month after Obama takes office): 110,260,000

Total Jobs for July 2009: 133,245,000
Total Private Jobs for July 2009: 111,317,000

Total Jobs Change since January 2009: -316,000
Total PRIVATE Jobs Change since January 2009: +332,000
Total Jobs Change since February 2009 (first full month after Obama takes office): +408,000
Total PRIVATE Jobs Change since February 2009 (first full month after Obama takes office): +1,057,000 (that’s 1 MILLION new private jobs since Obama’s first full month in office)

Let’s see what happens if I hold Obama responsible for an average number of jobs lost since day 1 in office. January 20, 2009. There are 31 days in January, and we are now assuming Obama is responsible for 11 of those days.

11/31*818,000 total jobs lost = 290,258 (rounding to 291,000)
11/31*839,000 private jobs lost = 297,709 (rounding to 298,000)

From the starting point using an average responsibility for January 2009, we subtract these numbers from the ones I noted as change from February:

Total jobs difference since January 20, 2009: +117,000
Total PRIVATE jobs difference since January 20,2009: +759,000

Obama 2012.

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Forget fair. Republicans are finally getting their own back. Punk-a$$ Romney always wants to cry somebody is being unfair to me. Remember his trip to kiss the ring of Trump and his nod and wink to the racists: “I can’t control all my supporters.” Well guess what, Obama can’t control us either. And frankly, there ain’t going to be no fair in this campaign. Romney should stop whining, cause otherwise that’s all they’ll be doing until November.

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There are no signs of economic recovery

Also incorrect.

-Jobless claims are down
-Jobs are being created in the private sector for 29 straight months
-Gas prices are starting to go back up (one indicator of economic recovery)
-New housing is up
-GDP is growing, not shrinking

There’s plenty of evidence that we are recovering.

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Ima Librul — “………Tell us what crowning jewels your man has accomplished in 4 years. Other than spending money on failed companies and failed programs……Please don’t tell us about killing Bin Laden again. That was Bush’s polices that set that up, not his…..”

Don’t tell us about Reagan getting the hostages released from Iran. It was Carter’s policies that set that up.

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The reality is that Romney’s company Bain Capital is part of a system that often consolidates losing businesses to save some jobs while others are lost. It is important to realize that without them even more jobs might be lost. (One can argue that Bain’s fees are excessive, but that is not my point.) My point is that we as a capitalist nation, and the richest nation in the world, ought to provide a safety net for the fallout of capitalism. The Saftey Net ought to include healthcare for all, reeducation programs for those that lose jobs, and a minimum standard of living.

One only need look at the unbelievable number of large homes and mansions across this country to realize that rich people would find a 2% tax increase to be “No Big Deal”. Can they really be that greedy that they want a tax decrease?

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“Romney is not the hope and change canidate (sic)”

sister, you just said a mouthful

but probably not in the way you meant to

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A vibrator giveaway that attracted long lines in New York City came to an abrupt end when the city told the promoters to pack it up. According to the New York Post, the giveaway was interrupted when a city representative told the promoters to shut down because of crowds. One of those on line, Melody Henry, grumbled that Mayor Michael Bloomberg “doesn’t want anyone to have fun. You can’t have a giant soda, You can’t have a vibrator.”

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As for accomplishments, well, Little Nero with a Cowboy Hat wrecked
a whole planet for the rest of all of our natural lives.
woo-hoo ‘Merka f* yeah, buddy. Mission Accomplished.

It would be hard for Obama, or anyone to top that, dude.
even if he had a fancy banner.

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You can’t have a giant soda, You can’t have a vibrator.”

We can’t have nice things.

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The one issue I have with this ad is how the banking crisis and stimulus destroyed many more jobs and businesses than Bain did. Those jobs were lost not to improve the business or provide a better product or service at a better value to the customer or public.

The president received very large campaign contributions from Goldman Sachs and Wallt Street in 2008. Societe Generale, the French Bank, and Goldman Sachs received the most money from the AIG bailout; however, more importantly, the government raised the capital requirement on the banks, which is the ratio of cash or government bonds on hand to the loans outstanding. The banks couldn’t get cash in such a short period because borrowing adds cash and liabilities, so the banks canceled loans. There was political pressure to not foreclose on mortgage bonds so they canceled business loans. The banks increased lending to the Federal government by $700B and decreased loans to businesses by $500B, since leading to the government is the same as cash. Nice trick if you are the borrower. My father had his revolving line of credit canceled. His customers canceled orders because they didn’t think the business would survive. He couldn’t sell the business so it went bankrupt, and he lost his entire life savings. He had to sell his house for the amount outstanding on the mortgage because housing prices went down. All the people who worked for him, the majority of which were minorities, lost their jobs, health insurance, etc. Although, the presidents changed, the priorities remained the same, which is why the economy has been so poor. It was really disappointing that the financial regulation was named after someone who took bribes from Countrywide, which was the bank that stole from investors and their poor customers in California. Both the health care bill and the stimulous bill were poorly designed. They should have spent the time to design them right. If the government didn’t force these business out of business there would be less need to cover the unemployed and uninsured. I am so disappointed both by the performance and by the propaganda and mud. If I go to a hotel and get bad service, I don’t want to hear about how every other hotel is horrible. If I hear that, I think I will keep trying new hotels until I find a descent one.

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It is tough to run as Candidate Romney when your signature piece of legislation at state level is ruining the state quickly (read scary article in WSJ a couple days ago and you see our future, if anyone really wants to be a doctor) . Real spending on education down 15% in last 10 years, real road spending down 23% in same time frame, and Gubmint spending on health care up from 21% of budget to 52% in ten years. Ouch. And now the state will dictate HOW doctors operate their practices. Shucks, that’s not rationing at all.
“I’m from the government and I’m here to tell the doctor how to operate on you. Don’t worry……”

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And frankly, this is good for Romney — nobody is talking about his taxes today.

that is the ONLY reason this ad is a story at all. Corporate media have a vested interest in keeping what’s projected to be a ~66 electoral vote victory by Obama to be some kind of a horserace.

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“Outside predators such as Mitt Romney and Bain Capital can perform a useful function in a capitalist economy. They come into a company and make ruthless, heartless decisions without regard to the human cost, decisions that those with a longer history or commitment to the company perhaps cannot bring themselves to make.”

Outside “predators”? “Ruthless”? “heartless decisions without regard to human cost”?

Lay off the tear jerking rhetoric and take a look at what they did at Bain. It many cases they took a company that was on its way to complete failure and attempted to turn it around. If they don’t step in the company just goes under and everyone is out of work. If they do step in and lay off people or close a plant or 2 to keep the company afloat then its a helluva lot better than the alternative of everyone losing their job.

Part of the problem here is when you make rather sweeping judgements such as calling these people predators or ruthless. That kind of jackassery doesn’t add to the debate.

But thanks for acknowledging the sliminess of the Obama lie regarding this man’s completely BS story.

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GOP Congresswoman Refuses To Acknowledge Mitt’s Health Care Law

This gop lying is ridiculous.

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straitroad — “Jay, I worked for a family owned company that was steadily losing market share over a period of years. The owner held on to employees he knew were a drag on the company. Eventually, he sold the company and the new CEO came in and cleaned house.”

If the company was losing market share, that seems to be more a failure of management than a failure of the employees. Maybe the guy running the show should have laid himself off instead.

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Thin Guy (I be’s Thin on facts) wrote:

Unless it’s repealed I will lose my Health Care in 2014 when Marxist Medicine becomes the Law of the Land.

You can fight back by voting Out all your fav lawmakers, (they’re all consumers of Marxist Medicine)

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The ad exemplifies the viciousness and mendacity of the Obama campaign and supports the view that no decent person can win against someone who does not even know the meaning of decency. We have also seen, especially in the lies about Obama’s *you didn’t build that* speech in Roanoke and the implications about Romney in words such as *brute and verboten* that the left either does not understand or supports statism and that the media are either afraid or unwilling to speak truth to power.

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I figure this much from the ad. If this is all obama has got on Romney, than Romney is way more fit for the job than I thought.
It’s one thing to sling mud, it’s another to sling mud that doesn’t actually exist.
Yep, this ad sure says a lot about this campaign. It says that obama is a dirty liar who will say anything to anybody to get his way, even if it’s rediculous.

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Doom — “Now THAT is hilarious.”

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The fact checkers proved the gop does nothing but lie.

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weetamoe — “The ad exemplifies the viciousness and mendacity of the Obama campaign and supports the view that no decent person can win against someone who does not even know the meaning of decency.”

So you’re saying Romney still has a chance, then?

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“I worked at a Motorola plant that closed down. It was pretty simple to get my COBRA insurance and actually the insurance company gave me continuance once the COBRA period was over”
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The other 99% cannot afford COBRA benefits for the entire 18 month period let alone continuing afterwards. The family monthly premium is greater than the max monthly unemployment benefit. Someone making less than 50K trying to support a family could not even afford 1 month of COBRA.

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JHM: Romney’s chances are roughly 28%:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

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Another lying pac ad:

Romney Ad: Obama Has Declared ‘War On Religion’

BS. Nothing but more lies to see if something sticks.

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“Investers made tons of money. Those gains ended up creating capital that could then be used to make other investments which helped the economy grow further in the aggregate. Additional new jobs were then created in the aggregate in these other areas. Again, the economy and job creation was firing on all cylinders during the time Romney was running Bain. It’s beyond silly to believe that Bain during the time Romney ran it caused more jobs in the aggregate to be lost than created or saved.”

Cons understand that. Its pretty self evident that if enormous amounts of wealth and economic activity were created than obviously Romney and Bain created far more jobs than they lost. You have to be a complete moron to not understand that. But Mark in midtown do you realize you are trying to talk common sense to libs???

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Shorter Conservative Argument: Waaah! THEIR lies are getting more traction than OUR lies!

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Obama hates America if he thinks he can sway people with lies… Oh wait, sadly there are lots of stupid people in America. This blog is proof. They’ll believe anything a liberal says.

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Scuba Steve

August 9th, 2012
10:57 am
Compromise

Your point is a fair one, but I think the signage is more telling in a national election — specifically a presidential election. People are supposed to be ‘excited’ about their candidate. At least to some degree. And I mean, good heavens…is ANYONE inspired by this guy at all?
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Scuba, do you live in GA?

You DO realize that GA is a lock for Romney (sad to say).

Why would the Romney campaign spend large amounts of money on a state that they KNOW they will win.

Does that make sense to you?

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Was on a conference call and had to actually “listen” to what they had to say…….anyway, just read Jay’s article.

He speaks of SuperPac’s for Obama being “unfair to Mitt”; however the SuperPac’s for Mitt are trying to start their own little race war in order to get their candidate hired.

So, what’s worse? Yeah, I know it’s more of “He did it too!!”; but there has to be a sense of proportion to this thing. You can say that tadpole is “big” and it’s a problem. Or you can look at that 20 ft. gator and see what a “big” problem really is.

Proportion is the key.

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“Oh wait, sadly there are lots of stupid people in America. This blog is proof.”

Yes, every time you post it is very evident. But you could save yourself time and just look in the mirror

Just saying

Been to Kyle’s lately?

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Lost in this hubub, bub, emphasis mine…

Priorities’ ad, released Tuesday but yet to actually air in a paid commercial time slot, ties Mitt Romney to the death of a former GST Steel worker’s wife

It’s something I’ve been saying for awhile now about the Citizens United decision and I’ll say it again–what’s most insidious about shadowy superPACs wielding this kind of money and power, is not so much what they spend their money on, but what they can credibly THREATEN to spend their money on.

I guarantee that this is being played out in scores of podunk districts, where some slick representative of a Koch- or suchlike-funded outfit is telling some underpaid representative that it’d really be in his interest to play ball on this bill. Or else.

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curious

August 9th, 2012
11:04 am
Maybe we don’t need a businessman in the White House. Our Government and Country should not be just about making a profit.
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Could the appeal that Romney holds for some people be because as a businessman, he had to know how to solve problems? Maybe, just maybe, the “make a profit” aspect of a businessperson is because they (some) have experience at identifying, isolating, and correcting the problem.

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Liberals remind of the parent that’s watching their child perform on stage at the school play and doing horrible. When they come off stage they still tell them that they did great. That’s exactly what they are doing with Oblama right now.. Its laughable that they still have confidence that he’s gonna win….

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citizen united is the worst decision ever

Dred Scott is holding for you on Line One.

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“Dred Scott is holding for you on Line One.”

Take a message.

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joey,

willie robme had a horrible summer.

Check the pols son.

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Life sucks sometimes. If the Dems had been in charge we would never have survived to emerge from the African grasslands.

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Its laughable that they still have confidence that he’s gonna win….

Joseph, seriously?

We’re supposed to assume that a handicapper like Nate Silver, who has been as solid as they come, who foretold trouble for Dems in 2010, etc.–we’re supposed to think that’s just nonsense, that the real Mitt Romney’s going to emerge in the next month and suddenly turn Ohio and Florida (and, why not, Pennsylvania too, right?) blue, despite all the polling to date, because…?

well?

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It’s really getting desperate when cons post links to hotair.

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Bumper Sticker:

“I HOPE WE CHANGE”

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A bit closer to the topic, I hope.

Does anyone here think that it’s a bad thing if people lose jobs because of corporate restructuring, industries moving overseas, whatever the reason – that it’s a bad thing that laid-off workers still have health care coverage?

Or do people who think that’s a bad idea think it better that the laid-off workers use emergency room services so people with jobs can pay for their care?

Or do they think it’s okay to gamble that no life-threatening diseases would occur that would result in death?

This is one of the elements it gets down to, isn’t it?

(Diversions need not reply)

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Take a message.

I did. He says “don’t make me come out of my grave and stomp your old white ass for implying that a cheezy pro-corporate-advertising decision compares to the one that basically wound up getting 600,000 Americans killed.”

but I might’ve got a few words wrong. He was hollerin’ something fierce before he hung up.

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Our President is winning:

http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com/

Owned willie robme.

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Please do not feed the energy creature.

I probably shouldn’t ever, but I am fascinated how often the right wingers just go “la la la can’t hear you” when I bring up 538. They know they can’t get away by going “librul NY Times!” because Nate didn’t make his bones on the Times’ payroll, he did it as an independent web entrepreneur.

Seriously, I have not once, this whole year, hear anyone of a conservative bent tell me why I shouldn’t pay any heed to Nate’s work, beyond some superficial “all polling is suspect” blather.

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Actually Steve Atl, I lied. I am actually looking forward to the Bush Tax Cuts expiring for everyone.

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This is one of the elements it gets down to, isn’t it?

I think you missed one, Paul.

It seems that we should all look in the mirror and blame ourselves for the crappy choices we’ve made.

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By the way, I AM willing to bet $100 that Obama will win against anyone willing to bet Romney will win. That’s PER PERSON.

I’ll take both sides of that bet and we can just caqll it even.

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Paul

August 9th, 2012
11:08 am
Heath

” THE GUY & HIS FAMILY HAVE NO HEALTH CARE INSURANCE!!! ”

The man’s wife had health insurance through her job.

The man refused to purchase health insurance at his new job.
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That’s what makes this ad so disgusting. There were many, many ways to make this point without FALSELY using the DEATH of a fellow American to score political points.

And, lets be adults here.

The purpose of this ad was NOT to further a CIVIL discussion about the plight of Americans who face losing their HC insurance when they lose their jobs. There are MILLIONS of legimate examples of that.

The purpose of this ad was to throw blood on Romney (using the death he had NOTHING to do with) to enrage voters against him.

Yes, I also think the Romney BS welfare ad sucks as well.

They BOTH will continue doing this until the ADULTS stand up and say “ENOUGH”.

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oops. That’s “call”

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The SC ruled you can lie about certain things. After all the lies from the GOP supporters against Kerry, karma has its ways.

I’d say it works.

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The only way I will support this ad is if it gets Republicans to push legislation that says you cannot lie in ads or in any broadcast that discusses current events.

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Joseph — “I’m really going to feel sorry for you people on the morning of November 7th. Think about it. Obama is a sitting President that can’t even come close to garnering 50%.

http://www.electoral-vote.com

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Joseph

Do you have a post of mine where I said Democrats would not be beat in 2010 or you just doing your usual and pulling something bull$hit out of your behind?

Adelson who is plowing in millions to defeat Obama, is hedging his bets in his own casinos that Obama is going to win.

How righteous is that?

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This is kinda fun watching some of the libs get their panties in a wad because Jay had to acknowledge this despicable LIE of Obama about the steelworker’s wife and cancer. No doubt. Obama and his campaign have descended into new frontiers of sliminess. Stay classy Obama. Stay classy.

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I’m a liberal and believe everything I read….
August 9th, 2012
10:54 am
Paul……….I’ve laid off 80 people ( from 204) since he was sworn in. They all HAD health ins. Shall I post their names for you.

Perhaps if you spent less time blogging and more time making your company successful, this would not be the case.

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“By the way, I AM willing to bet $100 that Obama will win against anyone willing to bet Romney will win. That’s PER PERSON.”

A fool and his money are soon parted.

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Calling Romney heartless, are you Jay? Well, from my perspective YOU are heartless, in terms of the programs you advocate stripping moral fiber from the fabric of our nation and citizens.

It’s harsh on either count to call someone “heartless”. Artificially sustaining institutions and employment which is economically unsustainable on its own merits has an impact on the broad population providing the economic sustenance. Providing social welfare benefits can have a detrimental impact on social and moral fabric (and liberty), heck, even mainstream Democrats and the Clintons have acknowledged that. Corporate “raiders” (if you prefer) and social welfare programs have a place in our life. Taken to an extreme each is dangerous.

The facts underlying the ad do not indicate ANYONE was “heartless”. Implying they were (and you do) is “heartless” at face value.

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Who remembers the state of the nations in 2000, then in 2008. Short memories for the GOP, as they trashed the country and amazingly think somehow it would be different next time. Wake up, you look foolish.

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and having said what I just said…I think the SuperPACs are the worst of politics and SCOTUS did our process no favors and made it uglier. This is on their heads. Both sides are wrong.

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When is Mitt going to share his secrets on how he will create 250,000 jobs per month for 48 straight months. Is there no limit to the tall tales Mitt is willing to dump on his conned constituency.

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“After the “swiftboat” atrocity ”

What was “atrocious” about that?

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The ads are like chicken, you don’t have to buy the chicken, you don’t have to watch the ads.

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“what steps if any should government take to protect individual Americans from the worst vagaries of that process?”

Jay, if Mitt manages to get himself elected in November, you can pretty much bet that the gov’t will take NO steps to protect individual Americans — Mitt has made it clear that the “business experience” that he brings to the table is all about making profit$ for himself and his corporate buddies and nothing more than that… he’s not even campaigning based on the good policies he supported for the people of Massachusetts just 10 years ago. Why should anyone believe that he will do anything to “promote the general welfare” of the American people — the general welfare he and the Repubs believe in is for corporations only!

Obama/Biden 2012 — it’s the only way the American people will be protected from corporate greed!

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“Daddy, Obama punches back!” – Ex-Scissorhand Mitt

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Romney should reply. I guess we should of propped this guy up for life and spoon fed him. He was a Democrat you know. Geez. Reminds me of some sitting on the porch in New Orleans watching the water rise.

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LOL! Obama won’t even run on his own higher educational RECORD!

LOL! Birthers.

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I love it when liars accuse others of lying. The ad claims Romney causes cancer. That is a lie, but I think you are to stupid to know it.

Y’all are like a dog in a litter box…

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Reminds me of some sitting on the porch in New Orleans watching the water rise.

Yeah because people who didn’t have transportation out of the city were just SOOOOO stupid…..

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Geez, where do Dems go now after accusing the guy of murder….Lot of time left to top that….Didn’t shoot their wad to early with that low blow.

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Romney should reply. I guess we should of propped this guy up for life and spoon fed him. He was a Democrat you know. Geez. Reminds me of some sitting on the porch in New Orleans watching the water rise

or “let them eat cake”

Reinforces the GOP mindset.

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Adam, guess you were at a protect march somewhere and missed the 300 buses sitting under water.

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They BOTH suck:

Did I include your name in my post? I didn’t think so… But wait. Could you perhaps be Aint that a shame, Joe Hussein Mama, or stands for decibels (SfBA)? Don’t worry I won’t tell. I realize that there couldn’t possibly be that many fruits who follow Bookman so I’m sure a couple you foaming at the mouth libs have to double or even triple up on names and posts… LOL…

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cum laude from Harvard

And no, Mighty Rightie, that’s not what your “uncles” used to pay Mamma to do.

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Yeah because people who didn’t have transportation out of the city were just SOOOOO stupid…..

Didn’t you get the memo?

Choices and bootstraps.

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” 1 million more private sector jobs since February 2009 (job loss over the same time period for Bush’s first term)”

So are there more or less people working than from the day O came into office? Last I saw is we’re still down 300k.

-” More New Housing being purchased”

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I see libs never let the facts get in the way of their argument.

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Sales of new houses fell 8.4% in June after reaching a two-year high in May, suggesting that the slowdown in the U.S. economy might be making buyers more cautious.

Sales declined to an annual rate of 350,000 in June and median prices of new homes also fell to the lowest level since January, the Commerce Department reported Wednesday.

http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-07-25/economy/32838638_1_patrick-newport-home-sales-sales-of-new-houses

“- An economy that is recovering enough for oil demand to be back”

1.5% economic growth is a recovery? Oh my gawd that is funny!

“- Tax Cuts for everyone (stimulus, Bush Tax Cut extension, payroll tax cut)”

From the poster who just stated that he hopes the W tax cuts get rescinded. You can’t make this stuff up.

“- Positive ads from the Obama campaign which highlight his record”

Bwaahahahahhahahahh. Positive ads like the bogus LIE about the steelworker’s wife? Obama has a record to highlight? He sure does- 8.3% unemployment, 5 trillion in new debt, and horribly weak, anemic economic growth. That would be his record and it do need highlighting.

“- A candidate not being able to “buy” the election by outspending the other guy”

That’s pretty hilarious considering it was thought that the Obama campaign would be the first campaign ever to hit 1 billion in money raised. So easy to obliterate this LIE. So easy.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/05/obama-campaign-aims-to-collect-a-billion-while-gop-relies-on-superpacs.html

“Good times…”

Sure buddy. Good times always constitutes 1 trillion dollar deficits, pi$$ poor economic growth of 1.5%, and a record shattering 42 straight months of unemployment over 8% with no end in sight.

But just keep on drinking that koolaid. Ya hear?

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If people don’t like the Super Pacs, write to the Supreme Court and complain. The SC justices decision in the Citizens United opened Pandora’s Box to fabricated and fraudulent claims on both sides. For any politician to whine about a Super Pac ad being untruthful or unfair is a joke.

On another note it is extremely amusing to see the likes of Rush Limbaugh get upset. Makes my day.

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DawgDad — “What was “atrocious” about that?”

Historical record and *eyewitness* accounts disagree with most of the Swiftboaters’ claims regarding Kerry’s service and decorations. In fact, one Swiftboater who has previously defended Kerry’s Silver Star and who had previously officially rated Kerry’s performance highly, changed his mind after being approached by the Swiftboaters and began criticizing Kerry’s performance and award.

One of the physicians who treated Kerry for a wound for which he received a Purple Heart criticized Kerry’s receipt of that reward, despite multiple claims from Navy administrators that PHs received under the same circumstances as Kerry’s award were “routine.”

One of the Swiftboaters even put Kerry *in* for one of the awards the organization later criticized him for receiving.

I don’t begrudge political mudslinging, but IMO veterans shouldn’t diss other veterans’ service, and I take a very dim view of veterans who do that. They should have found something else to criticize Kerry on.

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Adam, can’t be true. That was a well run Democratic controlled city. Can’t be right.

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“Failure of the local government, not of the people who were stranded.”

Gasp! Government failed?

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Goldie…..only went back 6 years…..I’d keep looking for more. And I guessed you missed the FACT she had insurance AFTER the time in question with HER job.

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Adam, can’t be true. That was a well run Democratic controlled city. Can’t be right.

I don’t restrict my criticism solely by political party. They f***ed up, pure and simple.

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Hey Thulsa Pigeon, I’m not arguing with you, since when I give you facts you just sh*t on the board and strut around like you’re victorious.

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“This – to me – is near the top of the worst aspects of the Citizens United decision. The inability of too many people to understand that a Super PAC ad has nothing to do with a candidate’s campaign”

Except when the head of the “super pac” is the one and the same former Barack Obama white house aide and campaign manager. And when Barack Obama refuses to condemn the ad and the lie that was told by the worker who was recorded talking to another Obama white house staffer.

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I have shown otherwise in the ads Obama has run on TV highlighting his record and accomplishments.

Yes, Adam, PLEASE keep highlighting (with BROAD BRIGHT colors please) the Obama record. I’m all for it.

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“The inability of too many people to understand that a Super PAC ad has nothing to do with a candidate’s campaign.”

I hear ya on that inability of people to understand that. I hard a hard time convincing libs of that when the swiftboat vets were doing some truth telling about that phony Kerry that W couldn’t do anything about it.

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You didn’t embarrass me. You mentioned at the end your post “liberals”, so I jumped in.

So were you able to back up your assertion from any blogger or were you lying as usual.

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Like I posted, negligence and apathy are not what we want in the White House EVER. Oh, and we don’t want corporatists in the White House EVER, either — thanks for posting!

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Adam, thanks…I putting that post in my journal….and you have totally ruined my right to say Dems never admit failure…Damn you,

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Doggone

It is all the same. The answer for both is NEITHER.

Mighty Righty will not answer because he knows the answer.

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ann running on hannity to get her fired was hilarious but this is just ridiculous:

“Marsha Blackburn, GOP Congresswoman, Refuses To Acknowledge Romneycare (VIDEO) ” aol.

romneycare, say it cons.

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Post of 12:55…………………..so

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No telling what Romney might say when he’s angry. That’s the point.

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The cons decided to leave reality because it is a sure loser for them.

Say romneycare cons.

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If people don’t like the Super Pacs, write to the Supreme Court and complain.

alternatively, treat Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas to the kind of artery-clogging fare they surely love, in copious quantities. (hey, is there a superPAC for that? hmm…)

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oh yeah, but y’all remember that if only this guy’s wife had lived in Massachusetts for the past decade, she would’ve had excellent healthcare options and maybe she would not have waited so long to seek treatment, etc. etc. That’s what Mitt’s spokesperson explained so clearly to a reporter when asked about this political ad — and please know that I am really sorry that once again you Cons are stuck with another train wreck for a candidate… you know, someone who gets creamed by The Party for speaking with some truthfulness!

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getalife — “ann running on hannity to get her fired was hilarious but this is just ridiculous:”

It’s kinda like when we issued the Potsdam Declaration in the summer of 1945 and the Japanese ignored our demand for their surrender. They decided to “mokusatsu” the demand (e.g. ‘kill by silence’).

And guess what happened 67 years ago today?

Nagasaki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasaki#World_War_II_and_atomic_bombing

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Joe Hussein Mama

August 9th, 2012
12:01 pm
And then getting Federal money to throw at the problem despite their professed preference for ‘private-sector solutions.’
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And then there’s that.

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“He (Obama) Improved the Economy”

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Yes, please Adam, you libs get together and spend millions on ad(s) touting this “achievement.”

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Of the nineteen men who served the “four months” in Viet Nam with John Kerry sixteen of them agreed Kerry did not deserve the medals he was awarded. Kerry himself applied for the medals. His war injuries never required medical treatment other than simple first aid.

http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php

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stands for decibels (SfBA)

August 9th, 2012
12:09 pm
Take a message.

I did. He says “don’t make me come out of my grave and stomp your old white ass for implying that a cheezy pro-corporate-advertising decision compares to the one that basically wound up getting 600,000 Americans killed.”

but I might’ve got a few words wrong. He was hollerin’ something fierce before he hung up.
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Thulsa

You are splitting hair and you know it. SVBs and the liberal Pac with this ad is all crap.

The SVBs went on Fox and stated they had nothing to do with the Bush campaign were not connected in any shape or form with anyone, etc, etc

The very next day after claiming that, it was discovered their main back just so happen to be a a lawyer from Houston who was a friend of Rove’s and one of the largest financial contributors to Bush’s campaign’s for governor, one of the largest contributors to the Repub Party in TX and to Bush’s Presidential campaigns

So if you want to play that “got ya” game we can.

So which way do you want to have it. It is all bs or split hairs to meet your own version and ideology

I say these PACs are all crap, but it is legal and it is going to get nasty

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Mighty Righty

Again, how many of the SBVs served on Kerry’s boat?

Simple question.

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They BOTH suck

August 9th, 2012
12:20 pm
TBG

By far the worst to date by either side. Romney and the right leaning Super Pacs have told some whoppers for sure, but this one was despicable.

Hopefully that is as low as we go, but I am not betting on it for either side.

Going to get nasty
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Wuzzup TBS.

Sadly, what you say is true.

This BS didn’t start with Romney or Obama, and it won’t end with them unless WE do something.

What, I have no idea.

Stocking up on asprin and Maalox.

And RUM.

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I wonder if Obama and/or the leftist PACs will circulate any ads about the $1.4 trillion deficits and the sustained 9+% unemplyment. Probably not.

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TGT: Yes, please Adam, you libs get together and spend millions on ad(s) touting this “achievement.”

Just curious, but today, August 9, 2012, are you worse off than you were on January 20, 2009? Serious question. If so, without divulging any uncomfortable personal details, in what ways specifically are you worse off?

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Thulsa, you have an extremely short memory, too:

THE OBAMA RECORD
Robert P. Watson, Ph.D.
Lynn University

I am always being asked to grade Obama’s presidency. In place of offering him a grade, I put together a list of his accomplishments thus far. I think you would agree that it is very impressive. His first six months have been even more active than FDRs or LBJs the two standards for such assessments. Yet, there is little media attention given to much of what he has done. Of late, the media is focusing almost exclusively on Obama’s critics, without holding them responsible for the uncivil, unconstructive tone of their disagreements or without holding the previous administration responsible for getting us in such a deep hole. The misinformation and venom that now passes for political reporting and civic debate is beyond description.

As such, there is a need to set the record straight. What most impresses me is the fact that Obama has accomplished so much not from a heavy-handed or top-down approach but from a style that has institutionalized efforts to reach across the aisle, encourage vigorous debate, and utilize town halls and panels of experts in the policy-making process. Beyond the accomplishments, the process is good for democracy and our democratic processes have been battered and bruised in recent years.

There is a lot of misinformation circulating on talk radio, at town hall meetings, in the blogosphere, and around office water coolers about President Barack Obama. For instance, Obama is criticized for allegedly doing nothing and for doing too much. While Obama, like all presidents, has made mistakes, his presidency has thus far been marked not just by bitter opposition but by an ambitious array of initiatives and numerous accomplishments. His is turning out to be one of the most active presidencies in history. Following is a list of initiatives that are either being pursued or have been achieved by the Obama Administration (through April 2010).

Let me know if I missed anything in the list (surely I did).

Ethics:

• Ordered the White House and all federal agencies to respect the Freedom of Information Act; Bush era limits on accessibility of federal documents have been overturned (2009)
• Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible (2009)
• Placed limits on lobbyists’ access to the White House (2009)
• Placed limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration (2009)
• Signed a measure strengthening registration and reporting requirements for lobbyists (2009)
• Ordered that lobbyists must be removed from and are no longer permitted to serve on federal and White House advisory panels (2009)
• Companies and individuals who are delinquent on their taxes or owe back taxes are no longer allowed to bid for federal contracts (2009)
• Initiated the “e-Rulemaking Initiative” (cooperating with Cornell University) to allow for online public “notice and comment” of federal laws and initiatives (2010) • Issued the “Open Gov Directive” ordering all Cabinet departments to promote transparency and citizen participation in their policies (2010)

Governance

• The White House website now provides information on all economic stimulus projects and spending, along with an unprecedented amount of information on our government (2009)
• Ended the Bush era practice of circumventing established FDA rules for political reasons (2009)
• Ended the Bush era practice of having White House staff rewrite the findings of scientific and environmental regulations and reports when they disagreed with the results (2009)
• Limited the salaries of senior White House aides (salaries cut to $100,000) (2009)
• Has urged Congress to adopt “Pay-Go” (whereby each dollar of spending is offset by a dollar in cuts or revenues, which was used in the `90s but abandoned in the `00s) (2010)
• Has been holding open meetings with Republican leaders who complained of a lack of access and information (2010)

National Security
• Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane (which wasn’t even used in Iraq/Afghanistan) and other outdated weapons systems (2009)
• Announced his intention to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay – though the closure has been delayed due to opposition it is still on the agenda (2009)
• Attempting to house terrorists at a new federal “super max” facility in the US (2009)
• Cut the expensive Reagan era missile defense program, saving $1.4 billion in 2010 (2009)
• Cancelled plans to station anti-ballistic missile systems in Poland and the Czech Republic (2009)
• Replacing long-range, expensive missile systems with more efficient smaller systems (2009)
• Increased US Navy patrols off the Somali coast in response to pirating (2009)
• Established a new cyber security office and appointed a cyber security czar (2009)
• Ordered the first nation-wide comprehensive cyber threat assessment (2009)
• One-year extension on some provisions of the PATRIOT Act (2009)
• Instituted a new Nuclear Posture Review, revising US nuclear deterrence policy to encourage more nations to join the 1996 Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (2010)

Components of the policy:

– US pledges to stop nuclear testing
– US pledges to not build a new generation of nucs
– Nuclear terrorism – not a launch from another nuclear state – is a major threat
– US will pledge to not use nucs on a non-nuclear state

Iraq & Afghanistan

• Began the phased withdrawal of US troops from Iraq (2009); continuing the withdrawal (2010)
• Authorized the use of more unmanned warplanes/drones (Predator, Reaper, etc.) in Iraq/Afghanistan (2009)
• Authorized the deployment of 17,000 additional troops to Afghanistan, which had been pending for months during the previous administration (2009)
• Changed the US military command in the Afghan conflict (2009)
• Tasked the Pentagon to reorganize US policy in Afghanistan; the new policy includes 30,000 additional troops deployed, priority training of Afghan forces, developing agriculture and infrastructure, limiting aerial bombing, etc. (2009)
• Ordered the Pentagon to send additional helicopters to assist US marine and special forces units in Afghanistan (2009)
• Increased unmanned drone strikes on Taliban and al-Qaeda targets in Afghanistan (2009)
• Ended the Bush era “stop-loss” policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date (2009)
• Visited US soldiers in Afghanistan (2010)

Military & Veterans

• Ordered the Pentagon to cover expenses of families of fallen soldiers if they wish to be on site when the body arrives back in the US (2009)
• Ended the Bush era “blackout” imposed on media coverage of the return of fallen US soldiers; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and with the approval of the fallen soldier’s family (2009)
• Ended the Bush era “black out” policy on media coverage of war casualties – full information is now released (2009)
• Ordered better body armor to be procured for US troops (2009)
• Funding new Mine Resistant Ambush Vehicles (which are needed because of susceptibility of the old hummers to roadside explosives) (2009)
• Working to increase pay and benefits for military personnel (2009)
• Improving housing for military personnel (2009)
• Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses (2009)
• Ordered that conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other neglected military hospitals be improved (2009)
• Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military (initiated by Bush but abandoned after the war in Iraq began) to a post-Cold War, modern fighting force… this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military and special ops units, establishing new technology and cyber units, etc. (2009)
• Ended the Bush era practice of awarding “no-bid” defense contracts (2009)
• Improving benefits for veterans as well as VA staffing, information systems, etc. (2009)
• Authorized construction of additional health centers to care for veterans (2009)
• Suspended the Bush era decision to purchase a fleet of Marine One helicopters from foreign suppliers in favor of American made helicopters (2009)
• Ordered a review of the existing “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on gays in the military (2010)
• New GI Bill for returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan (2009)

Foreign Policy & International Relations
• Closed the Bush era “secret detention” facilities in Eastern Europe (2009)
• Ended the Bush era policy allowing “enhanced interrogation” (torture); the US is again in compliance with Geneva Convention standards (2009)
• Restarted international nuclear non-proliferation talks (Bush withdrew from them) and reestablished international nuclear inspection protocols (2009)
• Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic (2009)
• Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions suspended under Bush (2009)
• Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office (2009)
• Banned the export of cluster bombs (2009)
• Overturned Bush era plans to increase the US nuclear arsenal (2009)
• Authorized the Navy SEALS operation that freed by force the US shipping captain held by Somali pirates (2009)
• Restored the US commitment to the UN population fund for family planning that was suspended under Bush (2009)
• Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return “home” to visit families (2009)
• Extended an offer of engagement (free from sanctions and penalties) to Iran through December 31, 2009 (Iran did not accept the offer) (2009)
• Sent envoys to the Middle East and other parts of the world, reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy (2009)
• Authorized discussions with North Korea and the private mission by former president, Bill Clinton, to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons (2009)
• Authorized discussions with Myanmar and the mission by Senator Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive (2009)
• Renewed loan guarantees for Israel (2009)
• Signed the USIFTA trade agreement with/for Israel (2009)
• Authorized a $550m advance for Israel (six months prior to the scheduled date) in order to accommodate Israeli’s economic and financial needs (2009)
• Continued agreements with Israel for cultural exchanges, immigration, etc. (2009)
• Spoke on Arab television, spoke at an Egyptian university, and met with Arab leaders in an effort to change the tone of US-Arab relations (2009)
• Ordered the US to finally pay its dues to the United Nations (2009)
• Attended the Summit of America’s meeting in Trinidad and Tobago (2010)
• Invited the Israeli Prime Minister to Washington; met with him (2010)
• Dispatched several envoys and initiated talks with numerous nations (2010)
• Signed a nuclear limitation treaty with Russia; both countries reduce nucs by one-third (1,500) and launch systems by half (800) (2010)
• Hosted nuclear non-proliferation summit for several nations (2010)

Economy
• Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants…) after years of neglect during the Bush era (2009)
• Authorized the US auto industry rescue plan and two GMAC rescue packages (2009)
• Authorized the housing rescue plan and new FHA residential housing guarantees (2009)
• Authorized a $789 billion economic stimulus plan (1/3 in tax cuts for working-class families, 1/3 to states for infrastructure projects, 1/3 to states to prevent the layoff of police officers, teachers, etc. at risk of losing their jobs because of state budget shortfalls) (2009)
• Instituted a new rule allowing the public to meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (in as quickly as one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying (2009)
• Authorized a continuation of the US financial and banking rescue plans initiated at the end of the Bush administration and authorized TARP funds to buy “toxic assets” from failing financial institutions (2009)
• Authorized the “Cash for Clunkers” program that stimulated auto sales and removed old, inefficient, polluting cars from the road (2009)
• Convened a “jobs summit” to bring experts together to develop ideas for creating jobs (2009)
• Ordered the FDIC to beef up deposit insurance (2009)
• Ended the Bush era policy of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from the credit card industry’s predatory practices (2009)
• Authorized the federal government to make more loans available to small businesses and ordered lower rates for federal loans to small businesses (2009)
• After former presidents of both parties refused such action (George W. Bush refused four times), Obama placed a 35% tariff on Chinese tires and a few other products such as pipes after China was found to be illegally “dumping” exports below cost (2009)
• In November 2009, Obama extended unemployment benefits for one million workers
and expanded coverage for some existing homeowners who are buying again (2009)
• Called on Congress to deliver a “Jobs bill” (2010)
• Credit card companies are prohibited from raising rates without advance notification or arbitrarily if customers are paying bills on time (2010)

Taxes
• Negotiated a deal with Swiss banks to permit the US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals (2009)
• Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy promotes in-sourcing investments to bring jobs back to the US (2009)
• Signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act which provides small tax cuts for 95% of “working families” (2009)
• Convened an advisory board that is looking into simplifying the tax code (2009)
• Ordered the closing of offshore tax safe havens (for individual and business tax evaders) (2009)
• Reduced taxes for some small businesses to stimulate the economic recovery (2009)
• Extended the Home Buyers Credit for first-time home buyers (2009)
• Proposed doubling the child tax credit (2010)
• Called for the repeal of the capital gains tax for small businesses (2010)
• Proposed rolling back the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans (families earning over $250,000/year) (2010)

Budgeting
• Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut federal spending (2009)
• Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify wasteful spending and practices (2009)
• Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient (2009)
• Overturned the Bush era practice of not listing certain federal programs in the federal budget (in an effort to hide programs and make the budget look smaller); such “off budget” items are now included in the annual budget (2009) (2010)
• Full appropriations for war are now included in the budget (2009) (2010)
• Funds for emergency appropriations are now included in the budget (2009) (2010)
• Proposed a three-year freeze on federal discretionary spending beginning in 2011 (2010)
• Is in the process of cutting 120 federal programs identified as either wasteful or unnecessary (2010)
• Established a bipartisan commission on fiscal responsibility, staffed by House and Senate members and private citizens, tasked with submitted proposals to balance the budget (2010)

Healthcare
• Removed Bush era restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research (2009)
• Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research (2009)
• Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children (2009)
• Established an independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare (2009)

• Reversed some (but not all) of the Bush era restrictions that prevented Medicare from negotiating with pharmaceutical firms for cheaper drugs, allowing government to again competitively bid; negotiated with drug companies for them to lower their costs (2009)

• Expanding vaccination programs (2009)

• Issued new disease prevention guidelines and priorities for the CDC (2009)
• Authorized the FDA to finally begin regulating tobacco (2009)
• Tasked federal labs to prioritize research on and deployment of H1N1 vaccines (2009)
• Asked multiple congressional committees to bring forward a healthcare reform bill; held numerous public hearings and town halls on the issue (2009) (2010)
• Healthcare reform (32 million additional Americans will receive healthcare coverage and costs will be lowered for most Americans; the total cost to the government is $940 billion over 10 years; many of the goals phased in over four years) (2010)

Components of the bill:

– Prevents insurance companies from denying coverage to individuals/family members with pre-existing health conditions; a temporary plan is being developed to cover high-risk individuals with pre-existing conditions until the full reforms go into effect in 2014
– Prevents insurance companies from placing lifetime limits on benefits
– Bans “rescission” so insurance companies can’t cancel coverage if individuals keep their policies current or if they become ill
– An individual’s out-of-pocket healthcare expenses are capped
– Closes the “donut hole” (Part D) for Medicare prescription drug coverage (under Bush, Medicare helped pay for drugs up to $2,600 and above $4,550, but individuals had to pay 100% of the costs in between these amounts); now Medicare helps cover costs irrespective of the amount – seniors will now pay only 25% of drug costs up to $4,550 and only 5% of drug costs above that amount
– In 2010, an emergency provision will offer seniors a $250 rebate on the costs incurred within the “donut hole”
– Individuals living at or below the poverty line were eligible for healthcare under Medicaid, but by 2014 individuals/families living slightly above (making up to $14,404/$29,327) the poverty line will also be eligible for benefits
– Individuals/families making less than $43,320/$88,200 per year will qualify for government subsidies to help purchase health insurance
– All individuals must have health insurance or face a government fine; all large (over 50 employees) employers must offer health insurance to employees or pay a fine
– Small businesses can get a tax credit if they offer health care
– There are hardship exemptions if individuals can’t afford health insurance
– Families can keep their children in college on their plans through age 26
– Promotes health insurance “exchanges” so consumers can buy “wholesale”
– Creates consumer assistance offices to help consumers file complaints or appeal decisions from insurance companies; beginning in 2011, insurance companies can no longer make excessive rate hikes without justification and approval, and those doing so may be barred from participating in new health insurance exchanges

Funding sources:

– Large employers (over 50 workers) that don’t offer health benefits will be charged a $2,000/worker fee; if the employer offers coverage but employees instead purchase federally subsidized insurance the fee is $3,000/worker receiving federal subsidies or $750/worker (whichever is lower)
– Annual fees on pharmaceutical companies ($27 billion), health insurance companies ($60 billion), and medical device-makers ($20 billion)
– Annual penalties on individuals who do not have health insurance (up to a maximum of $695/person)
– Increase in the Medicare payroll tax from 1.45% to 2.35% for individuals making $200,000+ and families making $250,000+
– 3.8% tax on unearned income for millionaires
– Insurance companies will be subject to a tax on each high-end insurance plan (so-called “Cadillac” plans) they offer

Miscellaneous:

– Illegal immigrants are not eligible for insurance or subsidies
– By Executive Order, such federal funding can’t be used for abortion
– The federal government will assist states by covering all of the increased expenses of expanding Medicaid coverage (90% of costs after 2020)

Energy & Environment

• Removed a ruling that now allows individual states to enact automotive fuel efficiency standards above federal standards (2009)
• Offered attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles (2009)
• Overturned Bush era rule to weaken the Endangered Species Act (2009)
• Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government (2009)
• Ended the Bush era policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions (2009)
• Signed a measure requiring energy producing plants to begin producing 15% of their energy from renewable sources (2009)
• Announced that the federal government would reengage in the long-delayed effort to clean up “Superfund” toxic waste sites (2009)
• Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production (2009)
• Proposed a new refuge for wild mustangs (2009)
• Cancelled several Bush era mountain-top removal and mining permits (2009)
• Reengaged in international treaties and agreements to protect the Antarctic (2009)
• Asked Congress for an energy reform and “cap and trade” bill (2009)
• Developing plan to lease US coastal waters for wind and water-current energy production (2009)
• Overturned Bush-era policies that allowed uranium mining near national parks such as the Grand Canyon (2009)
• Expanded the Petrified Forest National Park (2009)
• Signed the Omnibus Public Lands Management Act that protects millions of acres of scenic, historic, and recreational lands and trails (2009)
• Requiring that government buildings and facilities be retrofitted to save energy costs (2009)
• Authorized studies in several western states to determine how to support large-scale solar installations (2009)
• Attended the Copenhagen talks and, after the talks were stalled, negotiated an international (voluntary) agreement on reducing carbon emissions and raising funds to assist developing nations in offsetting carbon emissions (2009)
• Banned importation of pythons (in response to a growing population of pythons damaging the Florida Everglades) (2009)
• Committing the federal government to increasing research and use of renewable, clean energy sources such as wind, biomass, etc. (2009)
• Called for exploring the possibility of additional off-shore oil drilling in the Gulf, Atlantic, and off Alaska (but not in ANWR) (2010)
• Agreed to consider increases in nuclear energy production and requested a study on the feasibility of nuclear power plant construction (2010)

Rights

• Instituted enforcements for equal pay for women (Lilly Ledbetter Bill) (2009)
• Appointed the first Latina to the Supreme Court (2009)
• Held the first Seder in White House (2009)
• Appointed a diverse Cabinet and diverse White House staff (2009)
• Spoke at the annual dinner of the Human Rights Campaign, a gay rights organization (2009)
• Signed the first major piece of federal gay rights legislation that includes acts of violence against gays under the list of federal hate crimes (2009)
• Reversed the Bush era practice of politicizing Justice Department investigations and prosecutions against political opponents (2009)
• Pushing for some of the 9/11 perpetrators to be tried in federal court (2009)
• Signed an extension of the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Bill to provide federal research and support for treating the disease (2009)
• Allowed the State Department of offer same-sex benefits for employees (2009)
• Proposed that the Pentagon repeal the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy; placed a “freeze” on current efforts to remove alleged homosexuals from the military (2009)
• After eight years of neglect, the Justice Department and EEOC are again enforcing employment discrimination laws (2009)
• Convened the White House Tribal Nations Conference, inviting representatives from 564 federally-recognized Indian tribes (2009)
• Provided increased school projects for Indian lands and increased funds for the Indian Health Service (2009)
• Signed an Executive Order mandating that his Cabinet develop plans to work with and consult Indian tribes on issues impacting Indian lands (2009)
• Commissioned a study to develop alternatives to “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” (2010)
• Called for federal agencies to look into recognizing gay partnerships in terms of benefits (2010)
• Signed an Executive Order for the President’s Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities (2010)
• Increased funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (2010)

Education Policy

• Authorized construction funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access in K-12 public schools (2009)
• Increased funding for school construction (2009)
• Increased funding available for student loans (2009)
• Expanded the national youth service program (2009)
• Streamlined the federal student loan process to save $87 billion over the next 10 years (2009)
• Changed the rule to allow students struggling to make college loan payments to refinance their loans (2009)
• Beginning discussions with Congress for education reform (2009)
• Initiated a “Race to the Top” competitive federal grant program for states who develop innovative policies (2009)
• Instituted a “judgment review” allowing families with student loans to petition to have their current financial status determine the loan rather than the previous year’s finances (2009)
• Launched “Educate to Innovate,” a public/private partnership making $236 million available for science, mathematics, and technology education programs (2009)
• Proposed capping the maximum amount students must pay on student loans (as percentage of their income) (2010)
• Proposed reducing student loan obligations for individuals going to work in community and public service jobs (2010)
• The federal government will offer direct student loans, cutting out the cost of private banks (“middle man”) who increase the costs in order to make a profit (2010)

Other Policies & Initiatives

• New federal funding for science and research labs (2009)
• Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program (2009)
• Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program (2009)
• Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness (2009)
• Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud (2009)
• Demonstrated an immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters (2009)
• Ordered that funds be released and red tape be streamlined for the ongoing Hurricane Katrina recovery effort in the Gulf Coast (2009)
• Ordered the DEA to stop raids on medical marijuana usage (2009)
• Ordered a review of existing “mandatory minimum” prison sentencing (2009)
• Signed an order to limit airport tarmac delays and the time passengers had to sit in the plane/on the tarmac during delays (2009)
• Restored the EPA to “Cabinet level” status (this was the case under Clinton but not Bush) (2009)
• FEMA once again reports directly to the president (this was the case under Clinton but not Bush) (2009)
• Beginning discussions with Congress for comprehensive immigration reform (2010)
• Commissioned expert panels and reports from NASA; announced a new direction for human space flight that involves funding a new heavy lift-launcher and jettisoning the Ares 1 program; boosting NASA’s budget by $1 billion in 2011 (2010)
• Ordered a ban on text-messaging for all commercial truck and bus drivers (2010)

Haiti Disaster Response
• Timely and massive relief effort in response to the January 2010 earthquake and ensuing humanitarian crisis (2010)

Components of the response:

– The FBI’s National Center for Disaster Fraud was tasked to look into possible fraud with organizations soliciting funds for relief
– Announced the Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund
– Established an emergency Haiti Task Force in the State Department
– Established a website with information, resources, and a posting of a “person finder” online to help families and friends to locate loved ones
– Joint aid and relief planning with the U.K.
– Sponsored a resolution in the UN Security Council for additional security and police forces in Haiti
– Dispatched the US Navy floating hospital (USNS Comfort) and, within 5 days, 9 naval and relief ships, 5 Coast Guard cutters, 8 Coast Guard aircraft, and 12,000 US military personnel
– Initial dispatch of several ships and cargo planes full of humanitarian aid and supplies, 6 search/rescue teams (500 personnel), and 265 Department of Health & Human Services personnel for emergency medical and aid support
– Established a mobile US air traffic control center at the destroyed airport in Port-au-Prince

P.S.

• The Obamas did not use the $100,000 authorized (to all First Families) for the refurbishment and redecoration of the White House’s private living quarters; they paid for it out of their own pockets (2009)
• The Obamas reused Christmas ornaments from previous White House trees rather than buy new ones (2009)
• The Obamas used LED energy-saving lights on White House Christmas tree (2009)
• Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize; donated the award money for the prize to several charities (2009)
• Planted a garden for the White House’s vegetables and flowers (2009)
• Installed a swing set/playground for the Obama daughters and children of White House employees (2009)
• Held over 150 public town halls, press conferences, interviews, etc. in first year in office (official numbers are not available on such things, but this seems to be a new record high)
• Less than 30 days of vacation in first year in office (official numbers are not available on such things, but this seems to be a new record low)

Remember, this is only through April of 2010. Much more has been accomplished since then.

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Mighty Righty

How many of the SVBs campaigned for Kerry when he was a Senator?

You do know that several did, right?

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Mighty Righty

I see you are at a lost for words and as usual facts.

Catch you later

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they both suck,

Not sure what you’re asking for. Are all the superpacs bs. Well of course. But on the SBV I don’t have a problem with that because these are all men who came out of the woodwork that served alongside Kerry. I’ve no problem with their voices being heard. Are they all lying? 100 men or so? That is simply not plausible. Most rational people know that an entire group of men aren’t lying. Hard to coordinate that if not impossible.

And frankly I don’t have a problem with the the Obama superpacs but when they tell an outright provable LIE like on the steelworker’s wife you can be sure Doomy gonna lay his mighty hammer to that LIE. They can put up their wall of LIES as is their right. But Doomy gonna launch a conservative missile of truth and shatter that wall.

The only other issue I have is that it looks like there is coordination between that Stephanie Cutter and the superpacs. Still has to be proven of course but its mighty funny that she got caught lying about knowing that steelworker when she was in fact on a conference call with him months earlier.

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DDR wrote, in part:

if we run the country like a business, as some republicans want, then the US’s main goal would be to make a profit.

(snipped her long list of Great ideas, adding my 2 farthings)

As CEO of USA, Inc,. Romney should “spin off” the unprofitable Southern Red states (all except Jawja are net importers of Federal $$)

Then get rid of non-paying customers (disabled and old flatulaters, welfare parasites) Put them on ices floes or rafts.

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“And Ben, I WOULD LOVE if this was about Obama’s ACTUAL record, instead of the FAKE one you guys keep making up.”

OK Adam, what part of $1.4 trillion deficits and sustained 9+% unemployment do you consider fake and made up?

Thanks in advance.

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Bumper Sticker: “I HOPE WE CHANGE”

‘If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.’ ~Emma Goldman

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Doom — “these are all men who came out of the woodwork that served alongside Kerry”

Nope.

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“………. shouldn’t bother you………”

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Anyway, Kerry was taken down by a bunch of political low life’s who couldn’t win if they played fair. And look what it got us. Eight years of governmental cronyism, two wars, and a sunk economy that we are still trying to overcome…and still without the help of the men and women responsible. GOP: Greed Over Progress.

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“Mitt Romney represents a greater danger to the America I fought for, bled for and believe in than any Middle eastern group or nation could ever hope to be. I do not want to lose my rights to the Bottom Line of corporations. I certainly do not want to lose our ability to help those who needs it. Corporations are NOT people and Mitt Romney is NOT the answer for America.”

How is Mittie going to take away your “rights”??? As Americans, we throw around the word “right” around like a frisbee – the right to vote, the right to drive, the right for free healthcare, etc., etc.

You can help the less fortunate all you want to pal – and you can do it without the government being involved. Work at a soup kitchen for the homeless, give cash to a worthy charity, etc.

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Doggone/GA

August 9th, 2012
12:45 pm
“So Obama is in the sewers throwing slime with his ads”

This – to me – is near the top of the worst aspects of the Citizens United decision. The inability of too many people to understand that a Super PAC ad has nothing to do with a candidate’s campaign.
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Doggone, although I think the CU decision was horrible, I can’t blame the CU decision for the FACT that some people are that dumb.

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“the implication that Romney is to blame is barely plausible”

The ad is aimed towards those who are easily persuaded (read: easily fooled) by slick marketing gimmicks. Facts are irrelevant.

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“To be honest, it’s not Obama’s ad, it’s the Super PAC’s ad (anthough Obama has not rebuked it).”

Yeah. I know. You and they both suck got me there. I should have stated that it was Obama’s superpac and not his actual campaign although it looks to me like there might be some coordination there given the Stephanie Cutter situation. And that is against federal election law. We’ll see what happens there- maybe something. Maybe nothing.

“OTOH, Romney’s false “welfare” ad was put out by his camp.”

Not so fast as Lee Corso would say. The Washington post’s factcheck i think it was gave it 4 pinnochios. But I watched an interview with Dick Morris who worked for Clinton and Morris said the Romney ad is 100% true. He then pointed out that the Washington Post has a long history of being against Welfare reform and if its their “fact check” service I don’t think we can view them as credible. Interesting thing about these factcheck sources is that of the 3 main ones I think all 3 of them are run by 3 very liberal newspapers. How fair can they really be?

But I digress. Anyway Morris stated that he helped craft the legislation specifically so that the language regarding work cannot be changed. They went to great lengths to do that. And what Obama is doing is changing the language to include school, training, and other activities as “work”. So there is no question it has been changed.

The last point on that matter is that the politifact article just glosses over the fact that whether or not Obama can just scrap this law on his own will be decided in court. From what he understand from other readings is that he cannot simply change the law on his own and that his action was blatantly illegal. That its not even in question that its illegal and that its pretty clear cut on that issue. That remains to be seen but it does strike me as odd that a president can just arbitrarily strike down different pieces of law all by himself.

Last on that issue its pretty clear that there is disagreement on whether or not Obama abandoned the work requirement. It does seem though that there is no question he changed it or at least the language of it and of course there is the question of whether what he did was even legal. So there is room for disagreement as to whether or not its true.

On the lie regarding the steelworker and his wife’s cancer there is no room for discussion on whether or not its a lie. Its a cut and dried lie.

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MiltonMan — “Back in the day, S4 sent me to the PX to purchase multiple ribbons/awards at the local PX with zero paperwork & I ended up spending close to $300 bucks for replacement medals.”

Ouch!

That’s why you send the request to your service branch; you’re only out a stamp, an envelope and the time it takes to write and sign the request.

I haven’t stopped in at Hodge Army-Navy in Marietta in a while to see what they charge for medal sets, but I bet it’s pretty steep.

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Good afternoon Jay, mostly agree with your essay – disagree primarily with your analysis of “conservative anger” at Andrea Saul. We are not angry at Andrea Saul for suggesting there were virtues in 75-page RiomneyCare – we are angry at her naivete, for thinking the issue had anything to do with health care. She should have confined her comments to the blatant lies in the ad.

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“Again, one can make the same claim about coordination with Rove and the SVBs. So if that doesn’t bother you, it should bother you if it is true the other way.’

they both suck,

Obama’s Stephanie Cutter is on a conference call with that steelworker from month’s earlier- a person she denied ever knowing. There is a recording of the call. That is a fact. That is actual evidence which is a little different from you or me just saying we think there is coordination. Very different.

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TGT: And yes, Adam, I am “worse off” in the sense that, among other things, the country is “worse off” by having a raging liberal running the country.

Yes, please Adam, you libs get together and spend millions on ad(s) touting these “achievements.”

Glad to have your permission. And you BET I will. Those are good things.

By the way, if your only reason for being “worse off” is that a “liberal is running things,” you’ve already lost.

I mean seriously, how much traction do you think i would get out of “well, I have a better job, more money in the bank, the economy isn’t hemorrhaging jobs, our military is getting most of our enemies, but DADGUMMIT A CONSERVATIVE IS IN OFFICE”?

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Goldie

August 9th, 2012
12:53 pm
Oh, and we don’t want corporatists in the White House EVER, either — thanks for posting!
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Then WHO are you going to vote for?
They are BOTH corporatists.

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Ben: OK Adam, what part of $1.4 trillion deficits and sustained 9+% unemployment do you consider fake and made up?

How about both of those things?

If you’re going to complain about high unemployment and high yearly deficits, at least get the numbers right.

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“Doggone, although I think the CU decision was horrible, I can’t blame the CU decision for the FACT that some people are that dumb”

I didn’t say I blamed them. Just that it was one of the worst aspects of the decision. Unintended consequences and all that.

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Mitt has not paid taxes in 10 years. He indirectly killed a lady by stripping a company of health care. He spends more a year on his dancing horse, Rafalca , than most people earn. His father was born in Mexico. His biggest problem is he will not stand up to his party and do and say what he really believes is right in his heart… That is why I would not vote for him…… If he will not stand up for himself , he will not stand up for the our nation.

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Ahh…here we go..the annoited one can do nothing wrong and it is never his fault. forget the Delphi workers he threw under the bus, forget that under Obama care the elderly will need to have their health care reviewed by a panel, forget his attorney general thinks that to get a drivers license you need three forms of ID, but you do not need any form of ID to vote, forget that in Mass. the welfare checks have a voter registration attached. forget that Obama has spent tons of money to block his college records and do we know why..yep the media including Jay protect this man with a vengence. The ad…well the gentlemen in the ad has been on other Obama ads and has an inside track to the white house. forget that he was offered a buy out, forget that he did acquire another job but refused to put his wife on their plan, forget that his wife was working and could have been covered under her plan…the ad is all lies,,Cichago style mob rule and Jay loves it…to all you ignorant people who agree with Jay..enjoy picking cotton on the south white house lawn…how ignorant can you people be…

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Nate Silver is a great numbers person and he evaluates numbers in a strictly unemotional way. That is why I believe his odds of Obama winning re-election are way off-base. There is near no further up-side for Obama. He’s a known quantity and seems to have a ceiling of 47 or 48%. Romney has had everything including the kitchen sink thrown at him, and he seems to be about even in most of the polls that don’t substantially over-sample Democrats.

There is far more of a potential upside available for Romney than there is for Obama. Additionally, I suspect some Democrats are lying to polsters about intending to vote for Obama. While Silver’s analysis of current numbers show a 70% chance of Obama winning, I tend to think that the current data and environment is consistent with Romney winning by 4 – 6 points come November.

I also base that on how the individual campaigns are behaving. It seems to me that the Obama Campaign is acting in an increasingly desperate and negative way, which is what candidates who believe they are losing tend to do. Obama Campaign is burning through money a lot faster than Romney, while Romney seems to be raising more money than Obama for future expenditures. Romney seems content to absorb the blows because they don’t seem to be hurting him that much as Obama can’t get above the 47% or 48% ceiling.

The incredible negative nature of the Obama Campaign is consistent with a campaign that thinks the election is trending to Romney. Anything can still happen, but my view is that if Romney has a good convention and holds his own in the debates with Obama, that the late breakers will overwhelmingly go to Romney, just as they did to Reagan back in 1980.

People like to say that Romney is no Reagan. But neither was Reagan the beloved Reagan back in 1980. Reagan was the Republican Carter wanted to run against in 1980 as Reagan was considered near as unelectible as Barry Goldwater back in 1964. So Reagan wasn’t particularly popular among the electorate-at-large back in 1980 up until the point when almost all the late breaking went Reagan’s way once Reagan and Carter had their debate and Reagan showed that he was acceptable alternative.

While it’s possbile Romney will come across as a stiff in the debates, it’s also possible he will clean Obama’s clock. I’ve seen Romney have great debate performances, and I’ve seen him fall flat on his face as well. It may all depend on what he has for breakfast that day.

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K’Chak — “You should see some of his posts when the thread topic is about same sex marriage. Endless posts about anal sex.”

I know; it’s why I posted that.

Some of the most virulent anti-gay posters sure do seem to enjoy geting into the minute details of what them thar gay d00dz git up to in tha bedroom.

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I didn’t you you could apply for a medal. No wonder I didn’t get any.

Aside from how “sorry” some thought Kerry was/is, let all who even exposed themselves to hostile fire speak up.

I was accused of IRR envy, whatever that is, but it looks like there’s medal envy going on here.

Did those guys commenting about Kerry receive any $ from that PAC.

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You libs

August 9th, 2012
1:15 pm
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Please stop doing that.

Please just post a link to those lengthy articles.

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Does anyone know where I can find what time Jay Carney is doing his press briefing today? He said he would answer the question about this ad today.

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Adam

They could denounce it. It is that simple.

This thing is going to get nasty, I tell you.

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The BOTH suck: I too wish they would denounce it.

And yes, nastiness is to be expected. Personally I’d rather be chilled tot he bone by an ad that is accurate (like this one from Obama that Washington Post gave a Geppetto Checkmark), that by an ad that is false.

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The economy is Obamas- and it sux..

If it’s leadership you are attacking, then technically the economy belongs to:

Reagan …………… 8 years
Bush the elder ….. 4 years
Clinton ……………. 8 years
Bush Jr. ……………8 years

More right than left

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What absolute rubbish Bookman’s 10:04 posting was this morning. You Democrats have nothing credible to say about Obama’s record or accomplishments so you all are pathetically reduced to unending character assassination of an honorable opposition candidate.

Blaming Romney for the death of a woman with cancer now? How pathetic! Hiding behind PAC attacks, but taking no responsibility for their content? We’re not buying your disassociation with Democrat donor PAC’s. You are representative of its authors.

Bain Capital created more jobs, kept more jobs, and resurrected more companies than Obama’s inept administration could ever imagine. Your union playbook tactic of poisoning the well with misinformation about that nasty old Bain Capital is your low class calling card. The electorate will remember such low character attempts in November.

You liberals had nothing to offer in your choice of candidadtes in the last election so you fooled everyone into thinking an empty suit with Hope & Change would be good for America. Look at us now. What you see is what you get. You double down and offer this same left wing loser to represent America again. Only this time, you realize that in absence of Obama accomplishments, character assassination of his challenger is the only card to play. PATHETIC and LOW CLASS.

How do you defend against an administration of incompetent appointees, a corrupt DOJ, a cabinet comprised of individuals without private sector job experience, bureaucratic left wing czars, a corrupt Labor Dept., a political base of liberal kooks, and a hypocrite president who forgets earlier pronouncements? YOU CAN’T!

Sadly, you wretched Democrats resort to the only weapon in your playbook. Character assassination and misinformation. Next time you all see Harry Reid, ask him to supply you with his proof about those 10 years of tax dodging that Mitt was able to get away with. A fool leading fools. Had it not been for the union thug intercedings in Vegas, that old crank would be out to pasture by now.

You people are really something. You’ve lost your souls.

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Donavan

Are you God’s overseer? How do you know who lost their soul or not?

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Nate Silver is a great numbers person and he evaluates numbers in a strictly unemotional way. That is why I believe his odds of Obama winning re-election are way off-base. There is near no further up-side for Obama. He’s a known quantity and seems to have a ceiling of 47 or 48%

Upon what do you base this “ceiling?” Gallup’s nationwide approval polling, perchance?

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I’ve seen ads that were more inflammatory than this one, and ads that were in various ways more reprehensible than this one (not many, but some). But I cannot recall a single presidential campaign ad in the history of American politics that lied more blatantly than this one.

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Fox and Drudge are on this issue like a chicken after a june bug…

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Is anybody acutally stupid enough and gullible enough to believe all these left wing lies?? Oh I see.

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“Is anybody acutally stupid enough and gullible enough to believe all these left wing lies?? Oh I see.”

About as many as are stupid enough and gullible enough to believe all these right wing lies, I’d say.

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we NEED a post size limit on this blog!

No spit. I have scroll finger carpal tunnel syndrome after that mess at 1:15.

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Joe Hussein Mama

August 9th, 2012
1:50 pm
Some of the most virulent anti-gay posters sure do seem to enjoy geting into the minute details of what them thar gay d00dz git up to in tha bedroom.
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I know, right.

It’s as if they only think they are gay in the bedroom.

They’re not gay at work.
They’re not gay at softball practice.
They’re not gay in the shower at the gym as they wonder why TGT is looking at them with that “Need some help with that” look in their eyes.

Only in the bedroom.

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They BOTH suck: And I have to say that even though I am voting for him, because I can’t stand the thought of a Repub WH and maybe even a Repub Senate, he imo is “politics as usual”.

I agree, and it’s sad. I am ticked that someone couldn’t go into the White House, do things different in a “radical” way, and actually make significant change in the political process. But now that my dream of that is shattered, I know better than to break the system up all at once but to vote for people who will eventually bring the system closer to the way I want it to be.

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I think it was Lyndon Johnson who instructed his campaign team to put out an ad (a rumor? something anyway) accusing HIS OPPONENT of doing something embarrassing (can’t remember exactly what)

I believe the first graf of this piece will give you the “exactly what.”

(and boy, was that ever fun to Google…)

All pure political legend, of course, although I’d love for it to be true.

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unprecedented smear campaign being waged by a sitting president against his opponent.

A “R. M. Nixon” is holding for you on Line One.

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Donovan,
“Sadly, you wretched Democrats resort to the only weapon in your playbook. Character assassination and misinformation. Next time you all see Harry Reid, ask him to supply you with his proof about those 10 years of tax dodging that Mitt was able to get away with.”

Harry is just doing to Mitt what the “Birther’s” did President Obama. All Mitt has to do is what the president did…show the proof and it will all be over. But guess what? He doesn’t. Dose he have something to hide? Could it be he’s not qualified to be president?

Gee, it does feel good to throw the words of rhe Right back at them…kind of tickles…

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Doggone: If we don’t give a President a Congress he can work with, then you don’t see much getting done.

I await the analysis of the Senate and House races from Nate Silver. However, if the Republicans gain the Senate and/or keep the House, I’ll still settle for Obama getting 4 more years to veto their bullsh*t.

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About as many as are stupid enough and gullible enough to believe all these right wing lies, I’d say.

If Lying were an Olympic sport, Romney wins the Gold!:

ALL of Romney’s Lies in One Place! UPDATED YET AGAIN!

http://bit.ly/KHcG3F

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This may have been stated already in the 11 pages of responses but this is going to “get real” interesting now that Cutter has been proven to be a liar regarding her knowledge about the situation which ties it directly into Obama’s campaign and not the Super Pac. It is also very interesting that the facts regarding the timeline of this poor guy’s situation do not add up. Not to mention that the former CEO of the company completely discredits the entire scenario….

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Get Real – Yes, please focus on this ad more. Focus on it day and night. Parse out the lies and innuendoes and make sure FoxNews spends hours and hours of airtime on this.

Please write letters to the editor of your local paper and demand it be denounced by local tv news.

Please please please make this in to a VERY BIG DEAL.

Please?

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Liberal Chicks

What’s up lady?

Haven’t seen you at Kyle’s?

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“McCain had a lot of broad personal appeal, not just because he was a war hero, but because he seemed comfortable around people.”

McCain, to me, is a detestable political snake who very likely should have gone to jail over the S&L scandal. Had to hold my nose big-time on that one, and he’s a big reason why I was motivated enough to attend Tea Party meetings and support non-RINO GOP candidates. I will admit the S&L scandal has biased my perception of McCain, quite probably irreversably.

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“And Romney doesnt care about people only corporations..”

He has a wife and kids.

This is a hilarious line of argument; we heard it before when the GOP was having the vapors only equal treatment under the law for women’s health. “Why, Mitt can’t hate women, he is married to a woman! look at her–ok, you can’t tell by looking but honest, she has a vagina and everything!”

FFS, Dick Cheney has an openly gay daughter; that didn’t stop him from riding to re-election via a crude batch of homophobic state-referendum measures designed to turn out the base in 2004.

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