Hottest July, hottest seven months, hottest 12 months ….
Not that this will change any minds — actual data having been stripped of pertinence in modern political debate — but …
“The average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during July was 77.6°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, marking the hottest July and the hottest month on record for the nation. The previous warmest July for the nation was July 1936 when the average U.S. temperature was 77.4°F. The warm July temperatures contributed to a record-warm first seven months of the year and the warmest 12-month period the nation has experienced since recordkeeping began in 1895….
The January-July period was the warmest first seven months of any year on record for the contiguous United States. The national temperature of 56.4°F was 4.3°F above the long-term average. Most of the contiguous U.S. was record and near-record warm for the seven-month period, except the Pacific Northwest, which was near average….”
The U.S. Climate Extremes Index (USCEI), an index that tracks the highest and lowest 10 percent of extremes in temperature, precipitation, drought and tropical cyclones across the contiguous U.S., was a record-large 46 percent during the January-July period, over twice the average value, and surpassing the previous record large CEI of 42 percent which occurred in 1934. Extremes in warm daytime temperatures (83 percent) and warm nighttime temperatures (74 percent) both covered record large areas of the nation, contributing to the record high year-to-date USCEI value.”
Again, I have no illusion that such data will have any effect, largely because accepting the reality of man-driven climate change means accepting a self-imposed banishment from the conservative tribe. But I think it’s important to post it anyway, for the historical record if nothing else.
– Jay Bookman
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Mark T
August 8th, 2012
12:22 pm
Blah, Blah Blah, its hot in July…Blah, Blah, Blah
Paul
August 8th, 2012
12:23 pm
Amazing how some people think you can dump a bunch of waste into a system and it has no effect.
None.
Talk about the ultimate denial of personal responsibility and accountability.
Welcome to the Occupation
August 8th, 2012
12:26 pm
Paul:
Indeed. “personal responsibility” is just a cudgel used to whack the lower orders into shape, keep them in place. No personal responsibilities for the hedgies, nosirreeeee.
getalife
August 8th, 2012
12:27 pm
They are looking for a new planet for the 1 % after they destroyed our planet.
Oscar
August 8th, 2012
12:28 pm
It sure feels a lot hotter in Atlanta to me then it did years ago. I can believe it.
Atlanta also is a heat island caused from all our sprawl, roads, parking lots and buildings with black roofs.
At least we should paint our roofs white. That would help some.
Peadawg
August 8th, 2012
12:30 pm
“man-driven climate change” – I thought it was “man-made”. When did this change? But kudos on finally using a more proper term (I prefer man-assisted but oh well).
saywhat?
August 8th, 2012
12:33 pm
Peadawg
August 8th, 2012
12:30 pm
“I prefer man-assisted but oh well”
_________________________________________
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Welcome to the Occupation
August 8th, 2012
12:34 pm
The old predication that NY would eventually have a Miami-like climate now almost sounds optimistic. More like, Miami with a Nor’easter season thrown in the mix.
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 8th, 2012
12:35 pm
See also this, from nearly three years ago.
Makes me almost not want to stick around on this planet to help raise the grandkids, knowing what I’m in for.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 8th, 2012
12:36 pm
Heard on the Weather Channel last weekend:
Canada had more tornadoes than the US did in July. Which is apparently *unheard of,* if the TWC talking heads are right.
Recon 0311 2533
August 8th, 2012
12:36 pm
This must mean that we should look for something to come out from the Obama campaign in the next week or so about global warming.
East Lake Ira
August 8th, 2012
12:36 pm
But but but it SNOWED in Johannesburg SA and they had pictures and all so that proves you’re wrong and it’s all part of the natural cycle as God intended.
Oh, and you’re going to he11.
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 8th, 2012
12:37 pm
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
…and Mrs. PD is cool with it, yeah. Go for the gusto, my son.
Jefferson
August 8th, 2012
12:37 pm
NASA knows, Romney blows.
Peadawg
August 8th, 2012
12:37 pm
“Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”
My issue was with the term “man-made” that was used for so long. The climate had been changing and had gone in cycles for millions of years before man came along. “Man-assisted” is the most appropriate term imo.
USMC
August 8th, 2012
12:37 pm
It used to be GLOBAL WARMING.
Now Jay calls it CLIMATE CHANGE.
Why, Jay?
Adam
August 8th, 2012
12:39 pm
OH LOOK JAY GOT THE MEMO
Thought I’d get that one out of the way early.
Jay
August 8th, 2012
12:40 pm
USMC, I use them interchangeably. I see no difference between them.
So what’s your point?
Adam
August 8th, 2012
12:41 pm
I still wonder why conservatives decided to make THIS one of the issues they fight to the death over. In a valley. With heavy artillery firing at them while they have muskets.
Paul
August 8th, 2012
12:41 pm
USMC
I think it has something to do with science being devoted to constant inquiry and testing and revising, while rejecting of science has to do with picking an issue or a term and sticking with it ’cause evidence or changing information is neither desired nor trusted.
getalife
August 8th, 2012
12:41 pm
When they start building houses on the moon and Mars, you know the end of this planet is near.
“You people” will be stuck here to burn and drown while the rich live comfortably on another planet.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
August 8th, 2012
12:42 pm
Of course the recent news that Mr. and Mr. Climate Change Denier(Koch Bros)funded a study to get to the truth about climate change and they found a
Bombshell: Koch-Funded Study Finds ‘Global Warming Is Real’, ‘On The High End’ And ‘Essentially All’ Due To Carbon Pollution
I’m really sick of the deniers.
They think their excrement has no aroma.
Their stubborn ignorance puts all of us at risk.
A pox on them.
Patrick
August 8th, 2012
12:42 pm
Hi Jay–What are the chances we are already BEYOND the “tipping point” of being able to slow down or reverse the effects of man made climate change?
Not that we shouldn’t try, but from what I have heard, things move faster and faster once the tipping point is reached. Arctic ice gone, warmer oceans, melting permafrost releasing huge amount of CO2, etc. It gets worse exponentially…
Personally, I think our goose is already cooked.
saywhat?
August 8th, 2012
12:42 pm
When climate change inevitably presents challenges whose origin is so blatantly clear even head-in-the-sand conservatives can’t deny it, any guesses on who will be laying blame, pointing fingers and shouting the loudest that it is everybody elses fault, all the while insisting that nobody saw it coming?
Mark in mid-town
August 8th, 2012
12:42 pm
Jay,
Wasn’t the winter 3 years ago the coldest for North America in 50 years, an area larger than the continguous United States? I seem to recollect that when man-made global warming skeptics were pointing to that as evidence against global warming, that man-made global warming proponents countered that North America was just a part of the planet and that the rest of the planet wasn’t experiencing the coldest winter in 50 years. Yet now when the continguous United States shows record heat, it’s ok to extrapolate from that and use it as evidnce of man-made global warming? Interesting double standard, but not exactly a surprise.
Adam
August 8th, 2012
12:43 pm
Peadawg: Only one reason to argue over semantics like that. It’s the same as calling your opponent “divisive” while attacking him and other opponents in other ways: To make it seem as though the ENTIRE issue being discussed is either non-important or non-existent.
Brosephus™
August 8th, 2012
12:43 pm
I don’t have the stomach to sift through the stuff coming on this topic.
Y’all have fun. I have some grass thats begging me to watch it grow.
barking frog
August 8th, 2012
12:44 pm
How do you stop climate
change ?
East Lake Ira
August 8th, 2012
12:45 pm
I see USMC continues to be an embarassment to the Corps.
Shame on him.
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 8th, 2012
12:45 pm
I still wonder why conservatives decided to make THIS one of the issues they fight to the death over.
Two words: Dabrudderz Koch.
and I’m not being terribly hyperbolic, either. Had super-rich guys from some other industry, that didn’t have an ax to grind regarding greenhouse gas emissions, put so much money behind think tanks and such over the past 30 years, I doubt we’d be having this particular battle.
We’d probably be working toward some kind of incremental approach like other sensible industrialized nations, similarly burdened with providing cheap personal transport and affordable energy to their citizens.
Adam
August 8th, 2012
12:45 pm
Patrick: We are very near the tipping point as I understand it. That tipping point may not be a hard statistical value if our technology advances enough to get ahead of and stave off the problem. However, I am not too optimistic that will happen.
We’re toast.
Adam
August 8th, 2012
12:45 pm
stands: Word.
Peadawg
August 8th, 2012
12:45 pm
“Only one reason to argue over semantics like that.” – Not arguing over semantics. “Man-made” is misleading while “Man-assisted” is not.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
August 8th, 2012
12:46 pm
So the beginning if time was 1895 and whether or not it was ever hotter prior is of no consequence. But wait according to the clock on my computer, the beginning of time is 01/01/1900.
Soothsayer
August 8th, 2012
12:46 pm
Jay, I just don’t see how my 5,500 lb. GMC Yukon with the 6.2 L V8 could have anything to do with climate change. Get real!
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 8th, 2012
12:47 pm
Wasn’t the winter 3 years ago the coldest for North America in 50 years
no.
This has been another edition of Simple Answers to Simple Questions.
getalife
August 8th, 2012
12:48 pm
Did willard flip flop on this issue too?
You can add the Mars mission to our President’s accomplishments.
We have a couple of satellites orbiting Mars but they are not there looking for rocks, they are there to see if Mars can support lives and we own Mars now.
TaxPayer
August 8th, 2012
12:48 pm
Republicans would have needed to stay awake in science class and learn the basics such as ice melts when it get heated above freezing. You know, the basics at least.
“Has anyone seen my igloo. It was right here just a minute ago.” – From James Inhofe’s Innermost Thoughts
Adam
August 8th, 2012
12:48 pm
Peadawg: “man-made” vs. “man-assisted” is the same as saying “end Medicare” is a lie but “end Medicare as we know it” is totally fact. It is semantics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics
“The word semantics itself denotes a range of ideas, from the popular to the highly technical. It is often used in ordinary language to denote a problem of understanding that comes down to word selection or connotation”
In essence, you’re missing the point and distracting from the main issue if you don’t immediately follow up with “This is actually happening, scientists have said so, and though man has not been the ONLY cause, he is a major contributor and thus can stop it from occurring so quickly”
Stevie Ray
August 8th, 2012
12:48 pm
Climate folks can’t even predict the weather next week without reasonable doubt much less 100 years from now. The data is unproven along with the science. The sky may be indeed falling but a significant reasonable doubt continues to exist…..perhaps we need historical volcano erruption to smooth things out. Jay, perhaps we should wait a few more years and see what happens before subscribing to this hook, line and sinker..
Adam
August 8th, 2012
12:50 pm
Basically, arguing over whether man is ALL of the problem or PART of the problem is only useful in a conversation attempting to get people to not address Climate Change, or to delay addressing it, in favor of bickering over stuff that is already settled.
Adam
August 8th, 2012
12:51 pm
Stevie Ray: Climate folks can’t even predict the weather next week without reasonable doubt much less 100 years from now
Another distraction.
The science of meteorology and weather patterns in a particular area over a short time period is VERY DIFFERENT than Global Climate Change science.
jms
August 8th, 2012
12:51 pm
Just drop it, Bookman. Drop it like it’s hot.
Adam
August 8th, 2012
12:51 pm
Stevie Ray: a significant reasonable doubt continues to exist….
Not Intended to Be a Factual Statement
Beth
August 8th, 2012
12:52 pm
No matter what the data, no matter what the problem is, Bookman wants more taxes, more government and less liberty. Notice how it’s reflexive response to every stimulus ( no pun intended). Jay is a just a little bundle of solutions looking for a problem.
JRock
August 8th, 2012
12:53 pm
Weird- July also had one of the largest (#11) solar events in recent history.
#1-10 occurred in the last year (The same “Warmest Year on Record”)
I wonder if the SUN might have some sort of effect on Earth’s climate. Then again, I suppose the CO2 we’re cranking out is responsible for the Sun’s activity, what with it being a few million miles away and all.
Science is hard.
Patrick
August 8th, 2012
12:53 pm
Good points Adam. Thank you!
Peadawg
August 8th, 2012
12:53 pm
““end Medicare” is a lie but “end Medicare as we know it” is totally fact.”
Those mean 2 different things to me. The 1st one is intentionally misleading. Just like “man-made”.
getalife
August 8th, 2012
12:54 pm
Stevie,
I understand American are doubtful.
Lets face it, our government has screamed the sky is falling with the coming ice age, y2k and wmd’s in Iraq.
But a day will come when it will be so obvious that scientists are right and it would be too late to save our planet. Our congress is owned by the polluters so don’t worry. They are called the do nothing congress for a reason.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 8th, 2012
12:54 pm
S. Ray — “Climate folks can’t even predict the weather next week without reasonable doubt much less 100 years from now.”
Seems like someone here doesn’t understand the distinction between weather and climate. Who wants to give the Climatology 101 lesson today?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
August 8th, 2012
12:54 pm
“The data is unproven along with the science.”
Not intended to be a factual statement.
No matter how many times in the thread it appears.
Stevie Ray
August 8th, 2012
12:54 pm
ADAM,
Since the DEMS have the same solution to every perceived problem…..throw other peoples money in it’s direction. This issue is far from 100% accurate by any account. Yet all the sheepish liberals who subscribe and defend any position, stupid statement, while attacking the other….no less can be expected…You complain about offshoring jobs…see what happens when corporations incur yet another tax for no proven gain….
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 8th, 2012
12:54 pm
SR @ 12.48, fer cryin’ out loud. Adopting sensible long term measures to curb known greenhouse gas emissions is not “subscribing to this hook, line and sinker..”
There’s no good reason, other than the preservation of a VERY few people’s current fortunes, to maintain the status quo dependency on fossil fuels. We all know we’re going to have to make that transition anyway, so why not just do it, instead of falling prey to yet another stalling tactic from those whose ox is being gored?
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 8th, 2012
12:55 pm
.throw other peoples money in it’s direction.
Other people’s?
I’m on record as being ok with a tax increase for my income level. So are plenty of regulars here.
Try again.
Panty Waste
August 8th, 2012
12:56 pm
Well we better raise taxes exponentially and force-feed immature technologies on the market place. That’ll address these bothersome climate changes. First we’ll need a strong central planning body that make it’s decisions unilaterally and unconditionally. Then we’ll all need ID #’s so we can be tracked and accounted for. That’s a good start isn’t it fellow Progressive scum bags. Doncha think so Granny God Awful Evil? You can start it off. What should we do first totalitarian decision maker?
Peadawg
August 8th, 2012
12:56 pm
Adam
August 8th, 2012
12:50 pm
Then don’t argue w/ me when I state my opinion.
That’ll solve it. All I did to begin w/ was applaud Jay for finally using an appropriate term. Maybe I’m just ocd, I don’t know.
Mr_B
August 8th, 2012
12:56 pm
“I still wonder why conservatives decided to make THIS one of the issues they fight to the death over.”
Because addressing the problem in a rational manner might has the unallowable consequence of lowering some corporate “person’s” profit margin by some fraction of a percentage point.
getalife
August 8th, 2012
12:57 pm
““end Medicare” is a lie but “end Medicare as we know it” is totally fact.”
The gop voted to end Medicare several times.
Privatizing Medicare ends Medicare.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
August 8th, 2012
12:57 pm
Climate change debate reminds me of the debate on whether cigarettes caused cancer.
The cigarette companies denied for years that they did. They were protecting their profits.
Same thing is in play here.
That and the lemmings on the right will believe it if their leaders tell them so.
Eventually they are brought around as the evidence continues to pile up.
But it takes awhile.
Grandpa Tarkin
August 8th, 2012
12:58 pm
@Adam: conservatives deny global warming because oil companies pay them to. That’s really all there’s to it. And they wont fight to the death over it, they’re already gradually shifting to “we believed in global warming all along but want more evidence that it is man-made” as evidence keeps mounting and getting harder to ignore or shout down.
Stevie Ray
August 8th, 2012
12:58 pm
OK all, so what has GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE contributed that is based on undisputable facts?
Many weather readers/meteoroligists are not climate scientists, but many “climate scientist” are meterologists…predicting what the climate will be in 100 years accurately would be quite the accomplishment no doubt..
Stands For Getting His Butt Kicked
August 8th, 2012
12:58 pm
Are you on record? Really? On record? Isn’t that special. Aren’t you special. Now go fukkkkk yourself and leave the rest of us be.
steve
August 8th, 2012
12:59 pm
listen… more government, less freedom and more taxes will fix all of this.
Doggone/GA
August 8th, 2012
12:59 pm
“I think it has something to do with science being devoted to constant inquiry and testing and revising, while rejecting of science has to do with picking an issue or a term and sticking with it ’cause evidence or changing information is neither desired nor trusted”
Actually…and if memory serves me correctly…it was a politcal ploy by an R operative that changed the “debate” from global warming to global climate change
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 8th, 2012
12:59 pm
It used to be GLOBAL WARMING.
Now Jay calls it CLIMATE CHANGE.
Why, Jay?
If you want to complain about the phrase “CLIMATE CHANGE,” take it up with republican wordsmith and spinmeister extraordinaire, Frank Luntz.
Yet, the phrase “global warming” is often replaced by the term “climate change,” a phrase first advanced by Republican political strategist Frank Luntz, who found in his focus groups that the term sounded more positive to viewers.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
August 8th, 2012
1:00 pm
“The data is unproven along with the science.”
And you heard this same argument about cigarettes causing cancer too.
Even when the consensus was that they did cause cancer I’m sure there were some ” studies ” out there that proved they didn’t.
Thomas Heyward Jr.
August 8th, 2012
1:00 pm
EGAD!
.
Let’s send so’more money to Washington.
.
Romney/Obama will fix it.
HDB
August 8th, 2012
1:00 pm
East Lake Ira
August 8th, 2012
12:36 pm
“But but but it SNOWED in Johannesburg SA and they had pictures and all so that proves you’re wrong and it’s all part of the natural cycle as God intended.”
Isn’t it also due to the SEASON’s being different in Jo’Burg??
Remember when it’s SUMMER here, it’s WINTER there……….
getalife
August 8th, 2012
1:00 pm
Red card.
Paul
August 8th, 2012
1:01 pm
Mark in midtown 12:42
“Winters have generally been warming faster than other seasons in the United States. However, recent research indicates that climate change is disrupting the Arctic and ice around the North Pole in a particularly interesting way. In the Arctic, frigid air is typically trapped in a tight loop known as the polar vortex. This super-chilled air is not only cold, it also tends to have low barometric pressure compared to the air outside the vortex. The surrounding high-pressure zones push in on the vortex from all sides so the cold air is essentially “fenced in” above the Arctic, where it belongs.
As the Arctic region warms faster than most other places, however, the Arctic sea ice melts more rapidly and for longer periods each year, and is unable to replenish itself in the briefer, warmer winter season. This can destabilize the polar vortex and raises the barometric pressure within it.
For two winter seasons now (2009/2010 and 2010/2011), the polar vortex has been notably unstable. In addition, another measurement of barometric pressure—the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO)—has been in negative mode, weakening part of the barometric pressure “fence” around the polar vortex. This instability allows the cold Artic air to break free and flow southward, where it collides with warmer, moisture-laden air. This collision can produce severe winter weather.
The winter of 2009/2010 recorded the second lowest negative phase of the NAO since the 1970s, which helps to explain the record snowfalls across the northeastern United States. The 2010/2011 winter is also trending toward a strong negative phase.”
It’s an interconnected system with many variables in play. It’s not a simple, one variable system.
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/cold-snow-climate-change.html
Speed Racer
August 8th, 2012
1:01 pm
There was record heat in 1936 then it snowed in Florida in the mid-70’s when I was a kid (and either Time or Newsweek had a cover story wondering if we were headed for a new ice age) and now it is hot again. And, current US temp records only go back to 1895. How is there really enough data to say that we are on a trend that will lead the our planet heating and flooding?
Joe Hussein Mama
August 8th, 2012
1:01 pm
S. Ray — “OK all, so what has GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE contributed that is based on undisputable facts?”
“Dispute” is a loaded term here. There are a lot of scientists who ‘dispute’ the findings of climatologists, but in the vast majority of cases, those doing the disputing are not themselves climatologists.
My dad’s an agricultural scientist, for example, and while he knows a great deal about scientific topics, he’s not qualified to make assertions about the climate. The same thing goes for a lot of those doing the ‘disputing.’
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
August 8th, 2012
1:01 pm
U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) has a goal for the United
States to produce 20% of its electricity from wind energy by 2030.
Iowa met that goal this time last year.
This isn’t really about our planet to the deniers….it’s about what’s in their own pockets.
If Andy and Dave made wind turbines instead of being heavily invested
in fossil fuels we’d be well past that 20% already.
Greed. Greed. Stupidity. and more Greed.
A pox on them.
Mr_B
August 8th, 2012
1:01 pm
“more government, less freedom”
Classic false dichotomy.
Thulsa Doom
August 8th, 2012
1:02 pm
So in other words one year unequivocally proves global warming. Sure buddy.
Joe Mama,
Perhaps you and the other climatology perfesser in the room Adam can both go ahead and prove conclusively once and for all that the majority of the earth’s warming trend is without a doubt proven to be due to man made activities. Prove it sir.
Beth
August 8th, 2012
1:03 pm
On a day when even CNN says Obama’s atttack ad accusing Romney of killing a woman is false and misleading, Jay wants to talk about the weather.
He could talk about truthfulness.
Or civility( what a joke that is coming from him)
Or he could talk legitimacy
Or he could talk about whether Obama committed murder in fast and furious ( by his own logic)
But there is a reason that Jay only wants to talk about the weather.
Can you blame him?
George Benter
August 8th, 2012
1:03 pm
Went to the NOAA – National Climatic Data Center site, and could not find this chart anywhere. Is this a forgery? If anyone can find it please let me know.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 8th, 2012
1:03 pm
I look forward to the troll at 12:58 enjoying an extended vacation from Jay’s blog.
TaxPayer
August 8th, 2012
1:03 pm
Stevie Ray’s brain is hurting as a result of all these complex terms such as climate and weather. It’s not too late to sign up for a science class.
Stevie Ray
August 8th, 2012
1:03 pm
GRANNY,
What has it proven beyond a reasonable doubt?
STANDS,
Why not the simply contribute you money now to President Trillions? I’m sure you will get market beating value in return….maybe your money can help us rush to implement yet another costly, under develope solution…
Borrow and spend….We have much more imperative issues to deal with now…we can’t even afford to pay our bills without borrowing..
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
August 8th, 2012
1:05 pm
Perhaps you and the other climatology perfesser in the room Adam can both go ahead and prove conclusively once and for all that the majority of the earth’s warming trend is without a doubt proven to be due to man made activities. Prove it sir.
Even if they did you wouldn’t accept it. Total waste of time on a lemming like you. Move along.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 8th, 2012
1:05 pm
Doom — “Joe Mama, Perhaps you and the other climatology perfesser in the room Adam can both go ahead and prove conclusively once and for all that the majority of the earth’s warming trend is without a doubt proven to be due to man made activities.”
Why would I bother to prove something that I have not asserted? (giggling)
“Prove it sir.”
See question above. (laughing)
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 8th, 2012
1:05 pm
Red card.
Why, whatever could you be writing about?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
August 8th, 2012
1:06 pm
People once denied cigarettes caused cancer too.
This is the same exact thing.
TaxPayer
August 8th, 2012
1:06 pm
From the Koch-funded former skeptic, Muller:
“Call me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.”
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
August 8th, 2012
1:06 pm
Stevie Ray
Reasonable doubt? That requires a resaonable person.
Perhaps you might review The Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature Study (BEST)
Andy and Dave are I’m sure.
getalife
August 8th, 2012
1:07 pm
Beth,
Both sides are running distorted ads but do you have an opinion on this issue?
Thulsa Doom
August 8th, 2012
1:07 pm
“July also had one of the largest (#11) solar events in recent history.
#1-10 occurred in the last year (The same “Warmest Year on Record”)”
Point 1- Any fact that doesn’t agree with the Lib nonsense does not matter.
“Wasn’t the winter 3 years ago the coldest for North America in 50 years, an area larger than the continguous United States?”
Point 2- Never mind the man behind the curtain. Facts don’t matter to the libs.
Didn’t Europe just have one of its coldest winters on record with several towns in Eastern Europe recording alltime record lows.
Point 3- Again. Facts do not matter to the lib agenda. Once they get an idea in those little noggins the kooks aint gonna let go of it.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
August 8th, 2012
1:07 pm
But there is a reason that Jay only wants to talk about the weather.
Can you blame him?
We could talk about the poll numbers which show Obama pretty much stomping Romney
Would that do ?
Paul
August 8th, 2012
1:08 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
You know what they say about what’s the evidence of a weak mind trying to express itself.
A long vacation? How long is infinity?
Cheesy Grits
Nice analogy with the cigarettes -
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 8th, 2012
1:08 pm
Are you on record? Really? On record? Isn’t that special.
Well not the way your caregivers think you’re special, but I appreciate the kind words.
Why not the simply contribute you money now to President Trillions?
Better men than me have tried to reason with you on your faux- naivete, so I guess I shouldn’t bother beyond saying such arguments are cop-outs and deflections from the topic at hand.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
August 8th, 2012
1:08 pm
Didn’t Europe just have one of its coldest winters on record with several towns in Eastern Europe recording alltime record lows.
Its not global warming dummy. Its climate change which causes wild swings in the weather.
Im not sure you even know what we are talking about. Either way talking to you is like talking to a 5 year old.
Ill leave it to others.
TaxPayer
August 8th, 2012
1:09 pm
Speaking of wind energy, I do recall Mitt sticking his foot down his throat with regard to Sen Grassley’s call for tax credits for such things.
getalife
August 8th, 2012
1:09 pm
“Why, whatever could you be writing about?”
Allow me to retort:
“Now go fukkkkk yourself and leave the rest of us be.”
There ya go.
Red card.
TaxPayer
August 8th, 2012
1:10 pm
GG,
I linked to that BEST in my 1:06.
Adam
August 8th, 2012
1:10 pm
Peadawg: I think it’s a stretch to say definitively that either statement is intentionally misleading. Why is it so hard to think that people just didn’t meticulously and carefully plan out the exact words to use to satisfy semantics arguers? I think that’s more common than you think, and a much more likely explanation for the terms used that people like to quibble over instead of addressing the actual problem.
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 8th, 2012
1:10 pm
Better men than me have tried to reason
me have tried. me sound stupid. me Ogg. Me live in cave. Me drop this rock on head…
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 8th, 2012
1:10 pm
Allow me to retort:
jes’ pullin’ your leg, bud.
JDW
August 8th, 2012
1:11 pm
@Stevie Ray…”perhaps we should wait a few more years and see what happens before subscribing to this hook, line and sinker..”
Ever watch a frog boil? He never even knows…right up to the last. Of course we are supposed to be smarter than frogs…we some of us anyway.
getalife
August 8th, 2012
1:12 pm
stands,
I know.
Just wanted to flag it again in case Jay shows up.