Time to put on those travelin’ shoes and go a-fishin’
The first time I saw the great Elvin Bishop, we were both younger men. It was back in the early ’70s, in Raleigh, N.C., right about the time he put out his excellent and underrated album “Let It Flow.” Looking through the song list from that album — “Travelin’ Shoes,” “Stealin’ Watermelons” — is like going back in time.
That album also included Elvin’s classic celebration of fishing, the aptly titled “Fishin’.” It’s a critically important theme, so important that Mr. Bishop felt obligated to revisit it at more length in a later song, the equally aptly titled “Gone Fishin’ Again,” as in “me and my no-good friends are gone fishin’ again.”
Which of course we are. See ya’ll back here in a couple of weeks. Be good, be cool and be wishin’ you were with us, ‘cuz we plan on having us a damn good time.
– Jay Bookman
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DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
1:39 pm
SoCoBro: Instead, news like that usually leads me to “open mic night at the Chuckle House” type thoughts and jokes nowadays. I guess it’s my coping mechanism or something
You laugh — and i have nightmares. What a pair we’d make huh?!
Erwin's cat
July 22nd, 2012
1:40 pm
DDR @1:14 you said I have to report it in 6 hrs or face the same penalties
grow up yourself or at least try
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
1:40 pm
“We do know the COSTS”
We do?
So what are we insuring against? And how is that currently impacting legal gun owners?
Please clarify. You are not making much sense in terms of how insurance works
Doggone/GA
July 22nd, 2012
1:40 pm
“So what numbers will the actuaries work from to come up with the rates?”
Might be smarter to ask an actual actuary that question.
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
1:43 pm
Doggone
You start pushing that idea with your elected officials.
Seems like it will go far
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
1:44 pm
gee, why not mandate insurance for bricks in your yard or on your house in case someone picks it up and throws it thru a window or beats someone else to death with it
We already have that — it’s called Home Owner’s Insurance. Al those things mentioned, could be included in your policy.
BTW — this is just a brief outline of a very good idea that getalife mentioned. Is it feasible? Yes, of coure. Will it be a deterrent? Don’t know. Will it be a First Step to solving a problem? Definitely.
Doggone/GA
July 22nd, 2012
1:44 pm
“Please clarify. You are not making much sense in terms of how insurance works”
Insurance works however it’s written to work. There’s no hard and fast rules.
Doggone/GA
July 22nd, 2012
1:46 pm
“You start pushing that idea with your elected officials.”
Why should I? I don’t own a gun and never will.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
1:47 pm
DDR @1:14 you said I have to report it in 6 hrs or face the same penalties
grow up yourself or at least try
IMO you were being facetious — not really interested in the answer(s) just interested in putting a wrench in the works. You must be a republican right?
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
1:48 pm
Doggone
You are probably an intelligent individual, however you probably need to refrain from this idea.
We are going to mandate gun insurance to “cover costs” that we have no idea how it impacts gun owners from a financial perspective.
Makes all the sense in the world, if you are on mars
Doggone/GA
July 22nd, 2012
1:48 pm
“Will it be a deterrent?”
Answer to that is no, it will not. People who are obessessed aren’t detered by things that will deter a normal person. Deterence isn’t the point. It’s dealing with the aftermath that is the issue.
Oscar
July 22nd, 2012
1:48 pm
Looks like its pretty evident there is no concensus for changing the gun laws.
Or for increased attention to the mental health of college sturdents or other troubled men in their early twenties, which is the age of most of these shooters.
So we are left to live with it.
Next problem.
OK. Looks like Obama in a landslide. Mitt can’t help but keep shooting himself in the foot. Who let him out of the dog house and why didn’t the GOp do better.
Erwin's cat
July 22nd, 2012
1:49 pm
really so if my neighbor seals a brick from my garden and throws it thru the local home depot window, my home ins covers the home depot damages???or is that an add on policy..
Insurance mandates are not the savior…for anything…
getalife
July 22nd, 2012
1:49 pm
“GOP Senator: High-Capacity Magazines A Constitutional Right”
That is what you are up against and the insurance idea has been proposed.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
1:49 pm
So what are we insuring against? And how is that currently impacting legal gun owners?
See “Car Insurance” for a brief outline/idea.
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
1:49 pm
“Why should I? I don’t own a gun and never will.”
You are advocating some dumb ass insurance plan that make no sense for starters.
If you feel it is necessary start the charge.
How many gun owners you think are looking to but this type insurance?
Oscar
July 22nd, 2012
1:50 pm
I forget to use spellcheck again. consensus
Doggone/GA
July 22nd, 2012
1:50 pm
“We are going to mandate gun insurance to “cover costs” that we have no idea how it impacts gun owners from a financial perspective”
Once again, we are discussing ALTERNATIVES TO GUN CONTROL. You would prefer gun control I take it, since you can’t seem to join – intelligently – a discussion of an alternative.
Oscar
July 22nd, 2012
1:52 pm
Mitt wnats to require mandatory insurance for guy buyers.
Doggone/GA
July 22nd, 2012
1:53 pm
“How many gun owners you think are looking to but this type insurance?”
Those who would prefer it to tougher gun control laws?
Erwin's cat
July 22nd, 2012
1:54 pm
DDR – just because i don’t agree with what is a tremendously bad idea, i must be a Republican?
Grow up !
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
1:54 pm
Doggone
I’m not a gun control advocate in the sense that many might be. Automatic and even semi automatic. They could ban them and I wouldn’t care. Hallow point bullets, they could ban them, I would care.
back gound cks. I’m good with.
Outside of that, it is what it is.
There will always be dumb asses to that have a legal right to purchase guns that sell them to crooks. Happens every day in America.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
1:57 pm
really so if my neighbor seals a brick from my garden and throws it thru the local home depot window, my home ins covers the home depot damages???or is that an add on policy..
Let’s hope you never go through litigation –
OK let’s break down how a good litigator can make your life a living hell; and how something innocuous as a Home Owner’s Insurance Policy can save your life savings.
Hooligans grab a bunch of bricks out of your yard and then take those bricks and smash in a couple of windows around the neighborhood AND kill old lady Bruce’s dog.
The hooligans claim that they never would’ve done those awful things, but for the “temptation” of your bricks loosely laying around in your yard that is fenceless, (see beautiful nuisance laws — pools).
Now the homeowners and the old lady can file charges against the hooligans of course, but to recoup their losses, it’ll be more benefcial to make YOU pay.
Enter the experience litigator.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
1:59 pm
“Those who would prefer it to tougher gun control laws?”
Seeing that there is no major gun control initiatives in Congress even when the Democrats had control, you point is invalid. Might be valid and make sense to you, but on a macro level it holds zero weight and has no foundation or merit.
Republicans certainly aren’t going to advocate for more restrictive gun laws and Democrats didn’t change anything during the 4 yrs they had Congress.
So why would gun owners be looking to purchase insurance to combat something that is not even a reality?
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
2:00 pm
“Hallow point bullets, they could ban them, I would care. ”
“wouldn’t care”
sorry
Doggone/GA
July 22nd, 2012
2:02 pm
“you point is invalid.”
It’s a DAMN DISCUSSION. Who said there was any intiative? And after that inanity, I’m out for a while. I’m tired of listening to inanaity on TV and then having to deal with it here.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
2:02 pm
DDR – just because i don’t agree with what is a tremendously bad idea, i must be a Republican?
Not agreeing with me is not the problem. Millions don’t. Like I said before – to me you were just being facetious. If I hurt your feelings by calling you a republican; I’m sorry.
Erwin's cat
July 22nd, 2012
2:03 pm
DDR – maybe on planet Clair
you can’t legislate against crazy
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
2:04 pm
“I’m tired of listening to inanaity on TV and then having to deal with it here.”
Probably best to refrain from your own absurdity. That would be a start that you can influence immediately.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
2:11 pm
DDR – maybe on planet Clair
you can’t legislate against crazy
True — but you can sure LITIGATE against it. Loopholes are where pure inventiveness thrives and survives.
Hence the reason why the BAR is responsible as well as the patron.
A litigator found a way through that loophole don’t ya know?
Erwin's cat
July 22nd, 2012
2:17 pm
DDR try again….you obviously have not thought this thru and are being facetious yourself.
btw do you have an umbrella policy?…and no it doesn’t cover umbrellas
getalife
July 22nd, 2012
2:19 pm
The good news:
“July 22 – U.S. prosecutors and European regulators are close to arresting individual traders and charging them with colluding to manipulate global benchmark interest rates, according to people familiar with a sweeping investigation into the rate-rigging scandal”
The bad news, Afghan police officer opened fire at training facility to kill three Americans.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 22nd, 2012
2:22 pm
DDR, while I understand the objective of insurance concept may be explored and possible litigation, there are unfortunately existing laws that limit liability concepts: http://smartgunlaws.org/immunity-statutes-policy-summary
But the loss reporting concept is viable in several states: http://smartgunlaws.org/reporting-lost-or-stolen-firearms-policy-summary
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
2:22 pm
Of COURSE i haven’t thought it through! This is just an idea that just came up on page 12! Just kicking some ideas around — nothing more. If i, or anyone else, would’ve had a concrete idea that we thought would fly, then we wouldn’t be discussing it here on the blog–we’d probably just go straight to our local congressman.
Jeesh!
Do me a favor — google these words: Idea. Outline. Theory. Proposal.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
2:26 pm
Keep – IMO to change all existing gun laws on the books throughout the states, you’d have to Ammend the Constitution.
That will probably never happen in my lifetime.
Oh well!
getalife
July 22nd, 2012
2:33 pm
They let the automatic gun law expire so the President would sign a bill to reinstate it but the gop would kill it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 22nd, 2012
2:35 pm
DDR, you are probably right but small steps…. there are people trying pass some sensible laws (and watch the Ftrooper whine about “complete bans” which have not been proposed).
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
2:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7pGt_O1uM8
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
2:41 pm
Keep – the lobbyists for the NRA are too powerful. Now. Maybe in 2030 we, the people, can finally see the innanity of some of our ridiculous gun laws and then try to find a sensible approach to curbing them.
Erwin's cat
July 22nd, 2012
2:43 pm
DDR
Proposal – a plan that is proposed you have no plan
Is it your “theory” that a gun ins mandate would somehow curtail shootings ? or just not make the shooting costly to the victim and the owner?
I really have no idea what the theory behind the proposed plan….assuming the “plan” is mandated gun ins similar to auto ins?
If someone steals your car and causes damage to another car, are you or your auto insurer liable for that damage?
getalife
July 22nd, 2012
2:46 pm
I agree. The me generation failed America.
“(Reuters) – Syrian forces bombarded parts of Damascus with helicopter gunships on Sunday, witnesses said, rounding people up as troops clawed back territory a week after opposition fighters launched a major assault on the capital”
You will need more than guns to take on the military but the rebels will get our help. The big bombs blowing up military building are probably ours.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 22nd, 2012
2:47 pm
Well, I think the fix for something like that CO shooting is to make everybody buy a gun and carry it. Maybe two or three. That guy wouldn’t of got more than six or seven shots off before he got plugged if everybody in that theater was packing. And if you don’t like the movie you can just blast away at the screen. This insurance stuff is just silly.
But that’s just me.
I hope everybody went to church this morning. It sure feels good to get all my sins forgiven and start the week with a clean slate. Have a good Sabbath everybody.
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
2:49 pm
Ftrooper 1 & 2
Erwin's cat
July 22nd, 2012
2:49 pm
I’m out
travel safe
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 22nd, 2012
2:50 pm
DDR, while the NRA is a strong lobby, which each and every insane act they show themselves to be extremists….. The majority of people are against this insanity. It’s not going to be easy but they have stumbled and many are ready for real action.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
2:50 pm
http://cnsnews.com/blog/ron-meyer/auroras-strict-gun-laws-didnt-prevent-shooting-if-one-law-abiding-person-theater-had
Ahem
July 22nd, 2012
2:50 pm
Why not just insure individuals’ actions instead of weapons of choice. Some drive their cars while drunk or stoned; others commit arson; some use firearms; others use knives; and then some simply beat another to death.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
2:52 pm
“President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney have spoken little about gun control in their campaigns for the White House and showed no sign of shifting course after one of the deadliest shootings in recent U.S. history.”
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-07-20/obama-joins-romney-in-reticence-on-gun-control-after-shootings
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
2:54 pm
“This wasn’t a Colorado problem. This is a human problem,” Mr. (Governor) Hickenlooper said on “This Week.” “Even if he didn’t have access to guns, this guy was diabolical…he would have found explosives. He would have found something…he would have done something to create this horror.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/jul/22/hickenlooper-dodges-gun-control-questions/
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
2:57 pm
” ……………. on Friday, (Press Secretary) Jay Carney said, “The president believes that we need to take common-sense measures that protect Second Amendment rights of Americans, while ensuring that those who should not have guns under existing law do not get them.”
http://www.nwherald.com/2012/07/22/calls-for-gun-control-stir-little-support/a6n9lx5/?page=3
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
2:58 pm
“Sen. Dianne Feinstein, one of more outspoken gun-control advocates in Congress, said today that both Mitt Romney and President Obama should give the gun control issue a lot of “consideration,” but said now is a “bad time” to press the issue politically.
“I think that they should give it a lot of consideration, I think this is a bad time to embrace such a new subject,” the California Democrat said said on “Fox News Sunday.” “There has been no action because there is no outrage out there, people haven’t rallied forward.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/sen-feinstein-bad-time-to-press-gun-control/
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 22nd, 2012
2:58 pm
According to a nationwide poll, nine out of ten Americans oppose laws allowing guns on college campuses, or in bars, restaurants, stadiums, hospitals, or government buildings.5 Despite near-universal agreement that public space should be gun-free, however, most states do not prohibit the possession of concealed weapons in a variety of public places. Often, state law is simply silent about whether a person with a concealed carry permit may bring a gun into a particular location; these gaps allow permit holders to bring guns into a variety of sensitive places by default. The adoption of “shall issue” or “no permit” systems over the past few decades makes these omissions exponentially more dangerous, since more people than ever may now carry concealed handguns.
In recent years, the gun lobby has mounted a nationwide campaign to undo existing location-based restrictions and explicitly allow the carrying of firearms in places where large numbers of people are likely to congregate. Some of these laws are particularly egregious. In Kansas, for example, permit holders may carry concealed, loaded handguns into bars and restaurants, where they may drink alcohol as long as they do not become so intoxicated that they are “incapable of safely operating” their weapons.6 In Utah, permit holders are allowed to carry concealed weapons in elementary schools.7 Individuals carrying concealed weapons may have the best of intentions, believing that carrying guns will protect themselves and the rest of us from some imagined, unforeseen danger. The reality, however, is that concealed handgun holders create new risks of intentional or accidental shootings.8 Members of the public who carry guns risk escalating everyday disagreements into public shootouts, especially in places where disputes frequently occur—in bars, at sporting events, or in traffic
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
2:59 pm
Source please.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 22nd, 2012
3:01 pm
Concealed permit holders in TX were arrested for over 5000 crimes, including murder, rape, kidnapping and theft in a 6 month period…..
Makes you feel real safe, warm and fuzzy right?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
3:01 pm
Holmes wasn’t supposed to have a gun in the movie theater.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
3:02 pm
Source again please.
JamVet
July 22nd, 2012
3:03 pm
You want to know just how laughable the GOP candidates for President of the United States of America have become?
I just saw a commercial for AAG reverse mortgages with Fred Thompson as their spokesman.
Tawdry TV clowns selling garbage products and assorted imbeciles.
And this is the BEST that they can come up with…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 22nd, 2012
3:06 pm
Does the Second Amendment prevent effective gun regulations? What is the “right to bear arms”? Second Amendment litigation has become a critical battleground since the U.S. Supreme Court held, in District of Columbia v. Heller, that the Amendment guarantees an individual right to possess a firearm in the home for self-defense. This decision created a radical shift in the meaning of the Second Amendment, but it doesn’t prevent smart gun regulations. In fact, since Heller, courts nationwide have found a wide variety of firearms laws constitutional because they can help prevent gun deaths, injuries, and crimes in communities across the country.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 22nd, 2012
3:07 pm
Am, what? Not ED?
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
3:07 pm
Are crimes such as robbery, rape, murder, etc any less in states with more lenient gun laws as opposed to states with more restrictive laws?
I understand that some municipalities go beyond the state law in terms of restricting gun ownership, but are there stats on a state level?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
3:09 pm
IN OTHER WORDS, CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMIT HOLDERS (IN TEXAS) ARE CONVICTED OF A CRIME AT A RATE THAT IS A TINY FRACTION OF THAT OF THE GENERAL POPULATION’S.
“Assuming the search is for the “percentage of concealed weapons permit holders who commit crimes in any given year,” the only complete database is from Texas, which has a database showing the number of individuals who are convicted of a crime with the percentage of CCW permit holders who are convicted.(pdf)
That is, if there were 1,000 crime X’s during a year, and two of those convicted were CCW holders, the percentage is 0.0020. If you click on the link above, you will find that for most crimes the percentage is a whopping 0.0000%.
That does not mean that a Concealed Weapons Permit holder never commits a crime. For 3,680 persons convicted of “aggravated assault” during 2009, just 8 had a CCW. That is a whopping 0.0022 percent of those convicted of aggravated assault.
There were 1,913 robbery convictions, none by a CCW holder, for a 0.0000% rate.
And the overall rate for the 65,541 individuals who were convicted of some crime during 2009 was a whopping 0.1541 percent. Many of those were relatively minor “slips of the mind,” carrying a gun into a bottle shop, for example.
For Texas overall, just 0.002654 percent of the population was convicted of a crime during 2009. In more familiar terms, Texas had a conviction rate of 265.5 per 100,000 population. Concealed Weapons Permit holders had a conviction rate of 0.408 per 100,000 population.
In other words, Concealed Weapons Permit holders are convicted of a crime at a rate that is a tiny fraction of that of the general population’s.
Incomplete data from other states strongly suggest that Texas experience is either typical or a bit high. But Concealed Weapons Permit holders are an extremely peaceful lot.”
http://extranosalley.com/?p=28697
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
3:09 pm
Why so restrictive and limited in your definition? To better b@st@rdize your claim? Let’s expound on the definition a bit why don’t we?
noun Proposal:proposal – suggestion, plan, programme, scheme, offer, terms, design, project, bid, motion, recommendation, tender, presentation, proposition, overture.
Now take the ones highlighted and then come back with at least a lucent and compelling argument. Unless you’re just in it for the argument. If that’s the case I’ll be more than happy to waste a few hours with you arguing about nothing.
Your choice.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
3:10 pm
Still waiting for your sources. I think one is “Media Matters”. It figures.
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
3:10 pm
http://www.wral.com/news/state/nccapitol/story/11204311/
getalife
July 22nd, 2012
3:12 pm
There are no leaders from the right.
They ignore the collapse and consequences of the collapse.
They exist to fight change.
Worthless Americans.
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
3:12 pm
Someone is fibbing
http://tinyurl.com/cuuuoob
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
3:15 pm
NRA will lie for lying sake.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/13/national-rifle-association/barack-obama-supports-plan-ban-deer-hunting-ammuni/
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 22nd, 2012
3:17 pm
FTrooper, if you can’t figure how to click a link (already provided) and be respectful, well [something about a flying donut here]… I don’t post claim my false personal experiences are “fact”, sport.
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
3:17 pm
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/76717-gun-control-group-gives-obama-an-f
But I thought Obama was going to take out guns. NRA said this directly in 08 and has already mentioned it during this campaign
Truth or LIES?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
3:18 pm
Going Going Gone @ 3:10
Based on the article you posted the jury is still out on that one.
However, this was stated at the end:
“Hilton adds one note. In 1995, he said, many worried out loud that offering concealed weapons permits would lead to a Wild West mentality and cause violent crime to go up.
“We were told that there was going to be blood in the streets, it was going to be the OK Corral,” Hilton said. That hasn’t come to pass either, he said.”
P.S. It’s really a separate issue. The right to protect oneself is separate from the crime rate whether it is high or low.
For the person actually being assaulted …………. the crime rate is HIGH !!!!
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
3:18 pm
Keep: DDR, while the NRA is a strong lobby, which each and every insane act they show themselves to be extremists….. The majority of people are against this insanity. It’s not going to be easy but they have stumbled and many are ready for real action.
Word.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
3:19 pm
Going Going Gone:
He also wants to be president again.
Being a “lame duck” is what can be dangerous to 2nd Amendment freedoms.
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
3:20 pm
The American Journal of Public Health conducted a study that concluded “the United States has higher rates of firearm ownership than do other developed nations, and higher rates of homicide. Of the 233,251 people who were homicide victims in the United States between 1988 and 1997, 68% were killed with guns, of which the large majority were handguns.”[72] The ATF estimated in 1995 that the number of firearms available in the US was 223 million.[73]
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
3:22 pm
Good Fight:
1) See 3:09
2) Your “supposed” 5,000 translates to 0.408% per 100,000 vs. 265.5 per 100,000 for non-gun toters.
“For Texas overall, just 0.002654 percent of the population was convicted of a crime during 2009. In more familiar terms, Texas had a conviction rate of 265.5 per 100,000 population. Concealed Weapons Permit holders had a conviction rate of 0.408 per 100,000 population.”
3) Still waiting for your sources.
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
3:23 pm
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Lie in 08. Lie now
You have crap to back up the NRA’s lies. Was it a lie in 08 or are you spinning to talk about 2012?
Have they retracted their lies from 08? No they did not.
It was a scare tactic to rile the base and boost the price of guns. Didn’t get McCain elected, but prices did go up, at least for awhile until reality set in that the NRA was lying and there was no need to run and buy before it was made illegal
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
3:23 pm
If everyone carries, why don’t we just get rid of things like cops, courts and due process.
With everyone carry we can all be judge, jury, executioners and crime scene analysts.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 22nd, 2012
3:23 pm
Well I am off before Ftroop starts more absurd claims that a “lame duck” is dangerous and then encourages more lunatics to use their “2d amendment remedies” to stop tyranny. Sickening that they keep on using code words. Shameful really.
getalife
July 22nd, 2012
3:23 pm
Even ideas the right came up with in the past like health insurance mandate are voted down to get our President.
This was another newt idea.
Get the President after a collapse is unacceptable . Period.
The gop must be held accountable by the people for their unpatriotic behavior.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
3:27 pm
Ah …………….. Keep Up is leaving without posting his sources.
Hummmm ………………………..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
3:28 pm
Going @ 3:23
Agree to disagree.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
3:30 pm
I’m watching Real Stories Of The E.R. – and there’s this guy who stuffed his peni$ in a campstove!!
They asked him how it happened and the guy says he and his girl was high and the stove had a knob missing and his girl says put your peni$ in there and I’ll blow u. He said YES!
HAHAHAHA!! OMG!!
this is the funniest show ever!!!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
3:30 pm
Debbie @ 3:23
Because being able to protect oneself is necessary when there are no cops, courts or judges handy.
I assume by your comments that you would never intervene to prevent your or someone else’s injury or death even on your own property or in your home/car.
Is that correct ?
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
3:32 pm
Agree to disagree.
Disagree all you like. NRA stated numerous things that Obama was going to do.
Did it happen? Was it even close?
Answer in both cases is NO. They LIED. You bought it. Your right your ignorance. No offense, but are you buying it again. After all they are making the same “claims” as they did in 08.
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July 22nd, 2012
3:32 pm
“For Texas overall, just 0.002654 percent of the population was convicted of a crime during 2009. In more familiar terms, Texas had a conviction rate of 265.5 per 100,000 population. Concealed Weapons Permit holders had a conviction rate of 0.408 per 100,000 population.”
What this means is that as a “group”, gun permit holders are much, much more law abiding than the population in general.
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July 22nd, 2012
3:33 pm
Going:
Even Obama didn’t do things he said he was going to do ……………… does that make him a liar ?
He couldn’t do a lot of things because the NRA thwarted him. Hoo Ray !
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July 22nd, 2012
3:35 pm
Going:
What about this one?
To the American electorate: “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
JamVet
July 22nd, 2012
3:35 pm
What can you say? Cons are violence addicted.
It stems from their KKK background.
And I’m kinda PO’d at the gun industry. They are NOT doing their jobs!
South Africa, Columbia and Thailand lead us in gun murders per capita.
We’re only number four???
Whatever happened to American exceptionalism?
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
3:36 pm
Yes that makes him a liar
So I stand by what I said, the NRA lied to the gullible base. And they are lying now? I mean you have exactly what to back up that they are not lying?
You cite all sort of links, so let’s see it.
My bad, NRA nor you could back up their lies in 08 and now , nor do you.
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
3:37 pm
“NRA thwarted him”
You are a LIAR. There was no bill to thwart from either party
Too bad you are a LYING Christian and not a LION Christian
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
3:39 pm
Scout: I assume by your comments that you would never intervene to prevent your or someone else’s injury or death even on your own property or in your home/car. Is that correct ?
You know what they say when you AZZsume things don’t ya?
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
3:40 pm
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Lying is a horrible characteristic for anyone, only compounded by individuals who were tout their religion and love to lie.
You might be one of those false prophets that the Bible spoke about.
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July 22nd, 2012
3:41 pm
Going:
You are engaging in personal attacks against another poster. This is an opinion blog.
If you will remove “You are a LIAR.” from your 3:37 post to me and then resend it I will respond to you.
Otherwise we are done.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
3:41 pm
G+G+G: Too bad you are a LYING Christian and not a LION Christian
Welcome to the blog!
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July 22nd, 2012
3:43 pm
Debbie:
“You know what they say when you AZZsume things don’t ya?”
O.K. Then I’m asking what would your response would be.
Going Going Gone
July 22nd, 2012
3:44 pm
“He couldn’t do a lot of things because the NRA thwarted him. Hoo Ray !”
If you can back up this statement with fact then I will resend my post. What you stated is not an opinion or was not phrased as such.
“otherwise we are done”
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists..
July 22nd, 2012
3:44 pm
Jam: We’re only number four??? Whatever happened to American exceptionalism?
That sound you hear? That’s Debbie snickering in the background!
getalife
July 22nd, 2012
3:44 pm
Well, number four is great when you compare our country to other countries in education and health care costs.
I am getting tired of losing to Canada.
Recon 0311 2533
July 22nd, 2012
3:47 pm
Yeah sure go to an anti-gun activist Website then come back to the blog with some cut and paste propaganda calling it factual. The sorry far left is at least entertaining with their laughable rants.
Thomas
July 22nd, 2012
3:48 pm
It appears that not only are folks not using their two brain cells but the blog group is rather lazy.
Perhaps google gun deaths and research suicide and black on black gun deaths.
I assume our leftist friends would like to reduce gun ownership as well as deport blacks and suicidal folks.
There- problem solved!
carlosgvv
July 22nd, 2012
3:51 pm
Big Business moguls have finally found a way to build vast personal fortunes. They have sucessfully bought the Republican Party and now have those political lackeys at their command. Next, they will go all out to buy the Democrats. They aren’t there yet, but the’re getting close. When this is accomplished, they will begin the financial rape of middle class America. All of our freedoms of speech and large protest marches will mean nothing as both parties will be interested only in keeping their corporate masters happy. When the electorate finally realizes that voting for either the Republicans or the Democrates does them no good at all, a third and fourth party, not owned by these sociopathics, will emerge and we will finally get our country back. By then, these moguls will have amassed huge personal fortunes and will probably move to some posh place in Europe.