Time to put on those travelin’ shoes and go a-fishin’
The first time I saw the great Elvin Bishop, we were both younger men. It was back in the early ’70s, in Raleigh, N.C., right about the time he put out his excellent and underrated album “Let It Flow.” Looking through the song list from that album — “Travelin’ Shoes,” “Stealin’ Watermelons” — is like going back in time.
That album also included Elvin’s classic celebration of fishing, the aptly titled “Fishin’.” It’s a critically important theme, so important that Mr. Bishop felt obligated to revisit it at more length in a later song, the equally aptly titled “Gone Fishin’ Again,” as in “me and my no-good friends are gone fishin’ again.”
Which of course we are. See ya’ll back here in a couple of weeks. Be good, be cool and be wishin’ you were with us, ‘cuz we plan on having us a damn good time.
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Doggone/GA
July 21st, 2012
9:25 pm
“But anything to deflect from actually enacting sensible gun laws….”
See, I can’t get on that soap box. People like the Colorado killer will always be able to get whatever guns they think they need. Making things harder for people who will be law abiding anyway will do nothing to stop such monsters.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 21st, 2012
9:26 pm
“When news coverage is outlawed, only outlaws will have news coverage.”
– Thomas Jefferson
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
9:27 pm
0311
I think the interviews with
relatives and friends seem
to take advantage of their
state of grief. Who knows
what inspires copycats?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
9:27 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
I guess you don’t know that theater was a “Gun Free Zone”.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
9:28 pm
Self-retraint vs. outlawed I think is a good option.
Doggone/GA
July 21st, 2012
9:28 pm
“That, too”
I haven’t been following the story closely, but my understanding is that he came in with a ticket, left by an emergency exit…then re-entered through that same exit, that he had propped open. I can’t help but wonder what would have happened if someone had noticed that door was open when it wasn’t supposed to be and had just closed it properly.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2012
9:31 pm
Nice deflection Scout… again, sensible guns laws will not prevent any and all acts of stupidity any more than speed limits will stop all speeding and thereby prevent all loss of life….. but yes, go ahead and moan about news coverage and what might of been detected years ago…. while nothing is done to stop actual sales or sales of high capacity clips…. or any number of sensible laws that might actually reduce the loss of lives.
Josef
July 21st, 2012
9:32 pm
Doggone
I’ve tried to avoid it as much as possible.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
9:33 pm
At a time when law enforcement is already stretched to its capacity. Both sides do this.
“President Barack Obama will travel to Colorado on Sunday to meet with the victims of the shooting tragedy and their families, the White House announced Saturday.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78807.html#ixzz21JKqJ5Rh
getalife
July 21st, 2012
9:34 pm
Imagine sitting at home and tank shells come flying through your walls. You take your family and run but get hit by snipers, mortar shells and car bombs.
You are in a civil war in Syria.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2012
9:34 pm
Doggone, sure…. he could have driven a car into the ticket line… a determined person will find a way…. but we can make sure its not easy and that we have better methods to detect and stop them.
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
9:34 pm
I would like to see a ban on
all guns or a restriction to
defense and hunting arms.
Assault or automatic arms
are unnecessary to either.
Doggone/GA
July 21st, 2012
9:34 pm
“I’ve tried to avoid it as much as possible”
Me too. It’s bad enough knowing the basic facts without being hit over the head with them 24 x 7
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
9:35 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight:
…………….. or have given him the idea to just blow the apartment building he lived in while all were asleep killing probably a hundred or more.
…………….. or set the theatre on fire.
…………….. or drive his car at 60 mph into all those waiting to get in and then jump out yelling “I am the Joker” !
We have more than enough gun laws on the books.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 21st, 2012
9:36 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFfuUu5xmMA
This Is Still America
July 21st, 2012
9:37 pm
Time to quit coddling these murderers and give them the death sentence..
Doggone/GA
July 21st, 2012
9:37 pm
“but we can make sure its not easy and that we have better methods to detect and stop them”
But do we?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
9:38 pm
I believe Norway has gun laws much more strict than ours yet that psychopath murdered 69 people.
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
9:39 pm
0311
Do you believe AR15 or AK47
weapons should be available
to anyone with money to buy?
Doggone/GA
July 21st, 2012
9:40 pm
“Time to quit coddling these murderers and give them the death sentence..”
Which will neither ressurect the dead, nor heal the injured. How can we ever hope to learn what leads such people to do what they do if we kill them and deny ourselves the chance to study from them and hopefully learn something from them?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2012
9:41 pm
how absurd Scout….. tell me how many murders may have been averted because people were stopped before hand. Responsible law enforcement does NOT agree that the laws on the books are fully adequate…
G.I. Joe
July 21st, 2012
9:44 pm
This is still America – You are 100% correct. Mass murderers should get the ultimate punishment, a timely trial and the death sentence to be carried out in a timely fashion on national T.V.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
9:44 pm
WASHINGTON — “Gun control advocates sputter at their own impotence. The National Rifle Association is politically ascendant. And Barack Obama’s White House pledges to safeguard the Second Amendment in its first official response to the deaths of at least 12 people in a mass shooting at a new Batman movie screening in suburban Denver.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/21/calls-gun-control-stir-little-support/?page=3
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
9:45 pm
“tell me how many murders may have been averted because people were stopped before hand.”
Tell me how many murders may have been averted if right to carry people had been allowed in the theater?
Doggone/GA
July 21st, 2012
9:45 pm
“a timely trial and the death sentence to be carried out in a timely fashion on national T.V.”
And shall we use the Roman Coliseum as a venue?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
9:46 pm
barking frog @ 9:39
I agree with previous Supreme Court decisions on the subject.
Yes.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
9:48 pm
“Responsible law enforcement does NOT agree that the laws on the books are fully adequate”
You will find many police chiefs who espouse that viewpoint. They are political appointees who serve at the pleasure of the mayor or city council.
You will find most rank and file police officers and law enforcement agents believe there are enough laws already on the books. I know this from experience.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2012
9:50 pm
The AR-15 rife carried by Holmes, a civilian semi-automatic version of the military M-16, would have been defined as a “semiautomatic assault weapon” under the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994. If the law was still in force, semiautomatic assault weapons would have been outright banned
Scout, your absurd “somebody could have stopped him if only they were arm” claim has already been averted….. but of course, wait to the shooting begins…. dont do anything ahead of time that might have stopped the . That’s real smart law enforcement.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2012
9:52 pm
“I know this from experience” — sure Scout, you’ve spoken to law enforcement across the country and exclude those who you claim are biased but your own biases never warp your experience.
sorry, your opinion is not fact, sport.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2012
10:01 pm
There are about 20 mass shootings every year in the U.S.
And yet we cannot talk about sensible changes. As one of the survivors of VT asked…”If not now, when?”
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
10:03 pm
0311
Do you believe a fully
equipped B52 with hydrogen
bomb should be available to
anyone with money to buy?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:06 pm
barkilng frog:
No ………… and I support the decisons of our Congress, past presidents and the Supreme Court in that regard.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:08 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight !
When you refrain from personal attacks I will exchange opinions with you. Otherwise, you and I are done for the night.
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
10:09 pm
0311
At what point between an
AR15 and a Nuclear equipped aircraft should the
right to keep and bear arms
be infringed ?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:12 pm
Illinois (Chicago) has the strictest gun control laws in the United States including no carry permits.
Vermont has the most liberal gun control laws in the United States including no permit required to carry openly or concealed.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:14 pm
Gun Laws in the United States by State:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_(by_state)
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2012
10:15 pm
typical Scout…. :roll; I don’t care for your opinions Scout. I dont respect your opinion. You are entitled to your opinions but not false facts and not to disparage others with attacks on their character just because you dont agree with “them.” I will challenge your false claims that you have some “superior” information from your biased opinion. If you consider that a personal attack, then perhaps you should not put your biased claims of “experience” out as false facts.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:17 pm
For the sake of argument:
If you put me in a room crowded with targets and told me I had 60 seconds to hit as many as possible but I could only have a:
1) Glock .40 cal pistol
2) AR-15 .223
3) Remington 870 12 guage pump
I will take the 12 guage anytime.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:18 pm
P.S.
That 10:17 was for you barking frog.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:19 pm
………. and excuse me: “gauge”
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
10:21 pm
0311
I agree with your choice
of close firearm. I am
looking for your point
of stop on arms available
to the public.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 21st, 2012
10:22 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oIARF1-c1o
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:23 pm
barking frog:
Just a couple of articles regarding rank and file police officers’ views on gun control laws:
http://www.leaa.org/Cops%20Versus%20Gun%20Control/copsversusguncon.html
http://www.guncite.com/aswpolice.html
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:24 pm
barking frog:
“0311
I agree with your choice
of close firearm. I am
looking for your point
of stop on arms available
to the public.”
You lost me a little on the above. Could you amplify please ?
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
10:27 pm
0311
I am aware that police
officers have varying views
on gun control. I just want
to know your personal view
on how much weaponry
should be available to
the public.
Old Timer
July 21st, 2012
10:28 pm
Crazies and crooks will always have guns reardless of what the laws say. Only the innocent will be peanalized. I’ve got two good watch dogs, but if they bite someone I am the one in trouble. The country is upside down. Morally and financially.
Oscar
July 21st, 2012
10:29 pm
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
10:09 pm
_____
I think we as a nation need to decide the reason citizens are allowed to carry guns, and shape the laws accordingly.
If it’s for self defense and hunting guns should be limited to holding ten rounds or shells. Twelve gauge pump holds fewer then ten I believe. Deer rifles don’t need many rounds. Neither does home defense.
If it’s for defense in case of civil insurrection or invasion by foreign armies, or take over by a military coup, then automatics and heavy weapons should be allowed.
I grew up with a M-1 carbine, semi-auto with 40 round clip in the closet, always loaded. Started playing with it when I was about 12, Never told my dad but liked take the clip out at check out the rounds.
Just thinking out loud.
Oscar
July 21st, 2012
10:30 pm
make that 30 round clip
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:35 pm
Oscar:
People don’t like to discuss this but the 2nd Amendment was not put in the Constitution to allow for hunting, home protection, personal protection, target shooting, collecting or any such. Those were assumed.
It is there as a last check and balance against tyrannical government. I think you answered your own question and the Supreme Court agrees with you in their latest 2nd Amendment ruling.
It’s all here if you would like to read it:
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/07-290.pdf
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
10:35 pm
Oscar
I prefer single shot pistol
rifle shotgun for home.
Police and
military at their discretion.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:37 pm
Oscar:
Also note that in Switzerland, I believe males between a certain age are required to keep a fully automatic (not just semi-automatic) military rifle in their home as part of their reserve forces against invasion.
The crime right I’m betting is lower there than Chicago.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:39 pm
barking frog:
You had better be Olympic an quality marksman with that single shot pistol ……………..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2012
10:39 pm
them guns really work well against a military armed with drones that “kill WI wedding parties”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:42 pm
barking frog:
When there are conditions (for whatever reason) that citizens actually take up arms against their country you will find that the military does not remain loyal either. Parts will defect as those from general down to private are in agreement with the people. That’s why generals in Syria are defecting.
Therefore, an armed populace (along with a percentage of defecting military) can overcome a tyrannical government.
The key is to not replace it with a worse governmnet.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:42 pm
Excuse me: “overthrow”
Oscar
July 21st, 2012
10:45 pm
0311
______
I agree with you on why the 2nd amendment was put in the constitution.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 21st, 2012
10:46 pm
Overthrow the government violence porn.
Time to leave before it gets too sticky here.
Oscar
July 21st, 2012
10:47 pm
0311
______
I am aware to the Swiss law, and have noted in in comments here the last couple of days. I believe there may be similar requirements in Isreal.
And of couse, in Kennesaw.
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
10:47 pm
0311
The SCOTUS says the right
to keep and bear is not
unlimited but the 2nd says
shall not be infringed. Thus
limiting is not infringing.
What limits do you think
are reasonable?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:50 pm
Overthrow any possible future tyrannical government Constitutional duty and right !
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2012
10:50 pm
frog, I am heading out too but you may want to check this: http://smartgunlaws.org/the-second-amendment
Kam, you’re absolutely right!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 21st, 2012
10:51 pm
Wolverines!
getalife
July 21st, 2012
10:53 pm
“The country is upside down. Morally and financially.”
You ain’t seen nothing yet.
We are in the billionaires united era with a purge of dictators in the world.
Crazy times.
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
10:53 pm
The amendment was not
passed to insure the
government would leave
arms available to insurrectioists.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
10:57 pm
barking frog @ 10:47
Well, I think I already explained my position but here goes again.
The “People” should have whatever is necessary to have a strong enough means to resist tryannical government. In other words, not the government of today but one in the future that is totally enslaving the American people. It’s not beyond thought unfortunately.
Those arms therefore must include military style arms. I think today we have a reasonable balance and I am comfortable with that. The argument about fully automatic vs. semi-automatic means little as one can do just as much damage with a semi-auto.
Now to clarify: Just suppose our government overnight developed a method to make all gunpowder totally inert including that of our military. Poof ! Weapons become nothing but clubs.
But then they said, don’t worry because all of our military and your police will now be equipped with newly invented “ray guns” to protect you from criminals, etc.
Guess what ? I WANT MY RAYGUN !
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
10:59 pm
When the going gets sticky
the sticky get going.-Thomas
Jefferson
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
11:00 pm
barking frog @ 10:53
You need to read Heller vs. D.C. that I posted above and then go back and see why the 2nd Amendment was put in. You will find that it was put in as a final check and balance (when all else fails) against tryannical government.
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
11:02 pm
0311
You will have to pry your
raygun from Ronnie’s
cold dead hands…
getalife
July 21st, 2012
11:04 pm
scouit,
Taking on the US military with a gun is silly.
We are about freedom and you are paranoid.
Take your meds,
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
11:05 pm
barking frog:
Here is a great synopsis so you won’t have to read all of Heller vs. D.C. ……………….
“The militia consisted of all males capable of acting together for the common defense. The Antifederalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable citizen militias, thereby enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The Antifederalists therefore sought to preserve the citizens’ militia by denying Congress the power to abridge the right of individuals to keep and bear arms.”
http://www.lawnix.com/cases/dc-heller.html
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
11:07 pm
getalife:
See my 10:42
It wouldn’t be all ……….. only a part as there are always defections when it gets that bad.
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
11:08 pm
0311
You should read the opinion.
The 2nd exists to stop the
federal government from
disarming the state militias
by disarming individuals
by act of congress.
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
11:12 pm
0311
Looks like our issue is
back to how limited the
arms available should be.
getalife
July 21st, 2012
11:12 pm
scout,
We will be fine.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
11:12 pm
barking frog:
Work on your reading comprehension:
“thereby enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule”
Translation: Tyrannical government from which they had just been delivered.
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
11:19 pm
0311
The National Guard has
arms equivalent to the
federal military. Do you
think individuals should
be allowed the same
armament to bring with
them when activated?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 21st, 2012
11:29 pm
barking frog:
One last post from the ruliling and then TAPS for me.
“The Second Amendment right is not a right to keep and carry any weapon in any manner and for any purpose. The Court has upheld gun control legislation including prohibitions on concealed weapons and possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, and laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. The historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons supports the holding in United States v. Miller that the sorts of weapons protected are those in common use at the time.”
Translation: Reasonable gun laws but the government can’t forbid weapons in common use at the time.
I really enjoyed the exchange. Night !
barking frog
July 21st, 2012
11:35 pm
0311
We can be limited to knives
and black powder firearms
then and not the arms of
the military.
Tundra Dude
July 21st, 2012
11:39 pm
Does anyone on here agree with me that the 24 hr. coverage of the Colorado shooting incident only encourages the “copycat syndrome” among some out there with the same deranged minds?
I doubt it. It takes more than a deranged mind. How many would have such an arsenal ready…?
Besides, as they say in showbizzz….”that’s a tough act to follow.”
G Mare
July 21st, 2012
11:47 pm
As many of you here know, I am 71years old. I have never, ever owned or fired a gun. Here is one reason why. When I was in highschool, I was briefly hospitalized. My “roommate” was a 30 something woman who, in the process of loading a shotgun/rifle one night when her husband was out of town, literally shot her face off. The bullet entered under her chin & exited thru her forehead. When I met her, some many months after the incident, her chin had been reconstructed & the doctors were still working on her tongue & nose. She told me, when I could finally understand her, that she used to look like her beautiful 15 year old daughter who came to visit her. Okay, long story short, it is now over 50 years later and I cannot get that image out of my mind. So if I ever get a chance to vote re guns, I will vote NO.
Oscar
July 22nd, 2012
12:20 am
Rule number one. Never point the barrel of a gun, or let it be positioned toward anyone or any part of anyone’s body, loaded or unloaded.
People get killed loading and cleaning weapons. They are dangerous and are to be handled with care.
G Mare – I turned 70 in June so I’m right behind you. Let me know what it’s like up ahead. Does 71 seem better than 70?
G Mare
July 22nd, 2012
12:54 am
Ah, Oscar, not better for me. I am afflicted with COPD, so each day is a struggle to breathe, which makes me really tired. My mind still works tho, so I am glad I can still take on some of the nutcases posting here. I don’t classify you as one of them; while we may disagree on some topics, I admire and respect you as one of the good guys.
That “midnight hour” has passed; good night all.
Thomas
July 22nd, 2012
8:01 am
As pointed out it will come out that drugs played a key role in Colorado.
More folks die from drug related issues (prescription or illegal) than guns.
We are an over medicated society that should look to legalizing marijuana v. continued use and prescription of opiates.
carlosgvv
July 22nd, 2012
8:02 am
Scout
Neither Jesus or St. Paul is recorded as saying anything in opposition to the institution of slavery.
I guess this is just another example of New Testament grace. Right?
carlosgvv
July 22nd, 2012
8:10 am
The 2nd ammedment allows a milita to “keep and bear arms”. In those days, there was no standing professional Military. So, the 2nd ammendment allows our Military, and by extension, our Police, to “keep and bear arms. If you are not in the Military or Police, the 2nd ammendment does NOT allow you to “keep and bear arms”.
It’s just that simple and easy to understand.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
8:21 am
carlosgvv:
And the Supreme Court disagrees with you.
http://www.lawnix.com/cases/dc-heller.html
Recon 0311 2533
July 22nd, 2012
8:25 am
Heard an interesting statistic pointing out that of all homicides less than 1% involve the mass killing of 5 or more people and that statistic hasn’t changed over several decades.
bman
July 22nd, 2012
8:35 am
Here comes the “ban guns” crowd.
JamVet
July 22nd, 2012
8:41 am
19,000 Americans have been killed with guns since Representative Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head 18 months ago.
NINETEEN THOUSAND AMERICANS.
But no sir, we do not have a problem with gun violence in this country.
American exceptionalism…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
8:43 am
carlosgvv @ 8:02
I would have to STRONGLY disagree:
1) Jesus: He came not to make political changes but spiritual changes. But he did set the foundation for us to love one another as He loved the Church.
2) Paul:
“The Epistle brings into vivid focus the whole problem of slavery in the Christian Church. There is no thought of denunciation even in principle. The apostle deals with the situation as it then exists. He takes it for granted that Philemon has a claim of ownership on Onesimus and leaves the position unchallenged. Yet in one significant phrase Paul transforms the character of the masterslave relationship. Onesimus is returning no longer as a slave but as a brother beloved (Verse 16). It is clearly incongruous for a Christian master to “own” a brother in Christ in the contemporary sense of the word, and although the existing order of society could not be immediately changed by Christianity without a political revolution (Which was clearly contrary to Christian principles), the Christian master-slave relationship was so transformed from within that it was bound to lead ultimately to the abolition of the system.”
http://www.gty.org/resources/bible-qna/BQ070912/the-apostle-paul-and-slavery
3) Timothy:
Timothy specifically condemned the SLAVE TRADE.
I Timothy 1:
“8We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. 9We also know that lawa is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10for adulterers and perverts, for SLAVE TRADERS and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine 11that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.”
carlosgvv
July 22nd, 2012
8:44 am
Scout – 8:21
It was not unannimous. There was disent. Furthermore, you know as well as I that a Court with a liberal majority would, in all likelihood, render a different decision.
What it comes down to is this. Do we understand plain English and American history and restrict guns to the Police and Military. Or, in our zeal to have guns, do we engage in mental gymnastics and, in addition, have Justices who seem to be nothing more than lackeys for Big Business.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 22nd, 2012
8:44 am
Out for the morning ………… check in after lunch. Everyone be nice to each other.
TaxPayer
July 22nd, 2012
8:46 am
“19,000 killings with guns! That Obama is a sneaky one.” – Wayne LaPierre’s Innermost Mind aka the Outer Limits
carlosgvv
July 22nd, 2012
8:46 am
Scout
So, Jesus, the Son of God, doesn’t bother to denounce slavery. Neither does Paul. It’s left to Timothy to overrule both Jesus and Paul.
How can this possibly make any sense to you?
carlosgvv
July 22nd, 2012
8:48 am
bman – 8:35
They came a long time ago. They’re known as the Founding Fathers.
bman
July 22nd, 2012
9:04 am
Banning guns is no solution. But, try to make that argument if you like.
BADAss BING
July 22nd, 2012
9:10 am
The same amount of people get killed every week in Chicago. Where is the outrage?
BADAss BING
July 22nd, 2012
9:13 am
The sci-fi type movies and video games glorify this type of violence to all ages. Where is the outrage?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 22nd, 2012
9:15 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXBHrZZ36bk
JamVet
July 22nd, 2012
9:26 am
BADAss, banning stuff is generally for fascists/the hard-core right wing in this country.
Revering that kind of stuff is uniquely American.
And idiotic and self-destructive.
And EXTREMELY lucrative.
So go ahead, let little Billybob play his ultra-violent video games and watch his ultra-violent Hollywood stars as HE sees fit. Then pretend that him obsessing over that garbage for hours, days and weeks at a time is normal..
It was true in 1977. It still is…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzk-yVBWoiY&feature=player_embedded