Time to put on those travelin’ shoes and go a-fishin’
The first time I saw the great Elvin Bishop, we were both younger men. It was back in the early ’70s, in Raleigh, N.C., right about the time he put out his excellent and underrated album “Let It Flow.” Looking through the song list from that album — “Travelin’ Shoes,” “Stealin’ Watermelons” — is like going back in time.
That album also included Elvin’s classic celebration of fishing, the aptly titled “Fishin’.” It’s a critically important theme, so important that Mr. Bishop felt obligated to revisit it at more length in a later song, the equally aptly titled “Gone Fishin’ Again,” as in “me and my no-good friends are gone fishin’ again.”
Which of course we are. See ya’ll back here in a couple of weeks. Be good, be cool and be wishin’ you were with us, ‘cuz we plan on having us a damn good time.
– Jay Bookman
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Jackie
July 27th, 2012
1:20 pm
The neocons from the GWB administration, Stephen Hadley specifically, has started to beat the drums of war. He indicates the USA is not doing enough to help the Syrian people against Assad.
This is the man who was one of the architects of the Iraq war and is presently an advisor to Mitt Romney.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
1:21 pm
Normal Free — “But let me ask you this, I can see no home defense situation that would require an assault rifle. Most home defense situations are usually home invasions, with the perp already inside the house, rendering an assault rifle useless. A good revolver, with special loads, would be the only choice if you are quick enough, but mostly the perp, if good, will use surprise and you have no chance at the weapon….then you have only given a perp a new weapon to commit mayhem… Reality.”
The muzzle velocity and penetration of assault rifle ammo means that their stopping power can be somewhat limited compared to a good pistol, revolver or shotgun. Depending on what assault weapon you use, you could easily get thru-and-thru hits, which won’t slow a bad guy down as much as the raw punch of a shotgun slug or a heavy revolver round would.
Lord High Hair-gel
July 27th, 2012
1:25 pm
I’ve told all you little people all you need to know. I am Lord High Hair-gel
Now you may exit through the service entrance,
and don’t touch the silverware.
Erwin's cat
July 27th, 2012
1:26 pm
larry – The governors of Georgia and Wisconsin have an approval rating of below 50%…
It was reported this morning that Deal has a 57% approval rating…You may want to check facts before making up your own
TaxPayer
July 27th, 2012
1:28 pm
When it comes to stopping a con in his tracks, it only takes one inexpensive weapon, one that can be obtained at numerous locations without any waiting period–a Raygun. That’s right. A picture of Ronnie Raygun. Just point it at a con and they’re like deer in headlights. They start drooling and their eyes get glazed over within a minute. But beware. Don’t let them stare at it longer than two minutes or they’ll start trickling down their own legs.
Peadawg
July 27th, 2012
1:29 pm
“Joe will treat you (you, Peadawg, Doom, etc.) exactly how you treat others. Be nice and you get nice.”
I still don’t understand why I’m included in this. All I did was ask you a simple yes or no question. And showing a complete lack or respect, you gave me the run-around for 30 minutes or so. You couldn’t give a straight yes/no answer if your life depended on it. This could have been over and squashed hours ago. But no, you had to move to goal post all over the effing place.
RB from Gwinnett
July 27th, 2012
1:30 pm
Joe, “I know you are but what am I” is all you got, dude.
You’re funny.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 27th, 2012
1:34 pm
I still don’t understand why I’m included in this.
Blinders, Seabiscuit boy.
TaxPayer
July 27th, 2012
1:34 pm
“My name is George Bush and I approve this message.” – Mitt Romney
Peadawg
July 27th, 2012
1:36 pm
“Blinders, Seabiscuit boy.”
Oy…..
Peadawg
July 27th, 2012
1:38 pm
A for effort, Kam.
Lord High Hair-gel
July 27th, 2012
1:42 pm
now, its off to my yacht on St Simons island
St Simons - he-ne-ha
July 27th, 2012
1:44 pm
hey, anybody seen our boat?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 27th, 2012
1:45 pm
A for effort, Kam.
JHM is about to give you yet another point by point explanation, peapup and my bet (8-5) is that you will still complain about not understanding.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
1:45 pm
Peadawg — “I still don’t understand why I’m included in this.”
I know you don’t.
“All I did was ask you a simple yes or no question.”
No, you *demanded* a yes or no response.
“And showing a complete lack or respect, you gave me the run-around for 30 minutes or so.”
If you show disrespect by *demanding* that I answer a certain way, then why should I show you respect by complying with you?
“You couldn’t give a straight yes/no answer if your life depended on it.”
I most certainly could. But petulant demands on your part don’t constitute life-or-death actions on my part.
“This could have been over and squashed hours ago.”
Well, I think it was when you announced you were done. (laughing)
“But no, you had to move to goal post all over the effing place.”
Punkin, you apparently think it’s fashionable to accuse others of moving the goalposts, but “moving the goalposts” is a specific kind of logical fallacy that has nothing to do with what we were discussing. I stated my argument. You disagreed with it. That’s not moving the goalposts, Punkin.
Here, read up on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 27th, 2012
1:47 pm
JHM is about to give you yet another point by point explanation
Looks like someone has access to Jay’s double secret program to watch what someone is typing.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
1:47 pm
RB — “Joe, “I know you are but what am I” is all you got, dude. You’re funny.”
RB, an intemperate, ill-judged demand is all you had to start with, and you fell flat on your face making it. Several lefty posters here took you right up on your challenge.
Better look to improving your ownself before you start critiquing the argumentation and debate skills of others, Champ.
Peadawg
July 27th, 2012
1:51 pm
“I most certainly could.” – Yet…still rambling on.
“I stated my argument.” – No, I asked you a very straight very direct question and you respond w/ “but but but cons say this about Romney’s bank accounts” like I care what they say.
Looks like Joe’s got a wittle cheerleader at 1:45. Cute.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 27th, 2012
1:57 pm
Looks like someone has access to Jay’s double secret program to watch what someone is typing.
“With great power comes great responsibility.”
– Thomas Jefferson
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
1:57 pm
Peadawg — ““I most certainly could.” – Yet…still rambling on.”
And despite your claim to have dropped the discussion a couple of hours ago, here *you* are as well.
“I stated my argument.” – No, I asked you a very straight very direct question and you respond w/ “but but but cons say this about Romney’s bank accounts” like I care what they say.”
I don’t *care* if you care what they say or not. You missed the entire *point,* Peadawg. This is where you missed the boat.
“Looks like Joe’s got a wittle cheerleader at 1:45. Cute.”
Cheerleaders at your school won’t give you the time of day, huh, kid?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
I hope you have your finger on the Shame Drone button, Kam.
[Keep an eye out for the drunks at that WI wedding party]
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 27th, 2012
2:05 pm
“OBAMA BUILT THAT !”
“Economic estimates reflecting a weak 1.5 percent growth rate in the second quarter quickly became a political football Friday, as Republicans used the stat to chastise President Obama over his economic policies and bolster warnings about “looming tax hikes” next year.”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 27th, 2012
2:07 pm
Scout invented the internet and computers and then taught himself how to read and write.
JamVet
July 27th, 2012
2:09 pm
(CNN) — Storms ripped through the Northeast, killing at least two people as they unleashed strong winds and knocked out power to hundreds of thousands of customers, authorities said Friday.
The storms struck Thursday, and at one point that evening, severe thunderstorm watches were in effect for a continuous stretch from Oklahoma through New Jersey.
Thanks, Obama.
TaxPayer
July 27th, 2012
2:09 pm
Scout,
Republicans obviously look for every opportunity to deflect from their failure to do more than continue to be the Party of No given that they have not been able to get a single jobs bill to President Obama to sign. Perhaps the Republicans would do well to abandon their War against Women, for starters.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 27th, 2012
2:10 pm
“Normal Free…Pro Human Rights Thug…And liking it!”
“But let me ask you this, I can see no home defense situation that would require an assault rifle. Most home defense situations are usually home invasions, with the perp already inside the house, rendering an assault rifle useless. A good revolver, with special loads, would be the only choice if you are quick enough, but mostly the perp, if good, will use surprise and you have no chance at the weapon….then you have only given a perp a new weapon to commit mayhem… Reality.”
I hear you but as always it depends on the situation:
1) The size of the home ……. small apartment or huge house.
2) Location of the home ……. inner city, country or Mexican border.
3) Experience of the home owner ……… novice vs. combat infantry veteran just back from Afghanistan.
For example, if you think someone is trying to steal your tractor out in the barn you might want to go outside with an AR-15 vs. a shotgun or pistol (acutally take the pistol too ……………..
If you hear someone in the house and they are coming up the stairs you may want to meet them at the top with a 12 gauge.
If they are already in your bedroom and you wake up you may want to respond with a pistol.
Bottom line: You should have the freedom to choose.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
0311 — “Republicans used the stat to chastise President Obama over his economic policies and bolster warnings about “looming tax hikes” next year.”
You mean like the expiration of the tax cuts that Republicans voted for?
And the automatic spending cuts that they ALSO voted for?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 27th, 2012
2:12 pm
Jam…. did you see the Obama plan for more ice cubes for the WH. He’s floating down an iceberg from Greenland.
Peadawg
July 27th, 2012
2:13 pm
“And despite your claim to have dropped the discussion a couple of hours ago, here *you* are as well.”
Ya I was just eating a snack and scannin’ the comments and saw my name brought up.
I asked you a simple, direct yes/no question @ 10:15 and instead of answering it like a grown up, you change the subject and said “but but but cons”…exactly like the cons do w/ a “but but but Obama” 10 posts into a new topic. And 4 hours like, still can’t man up.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
2:13 pm
0311 — “Bottom line: You should have the freedom to choose.”
Freedom of choice
Is what you want
– DEVO
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 27th, 2012
2:13 pm
Keep
The drone is not equipped with the Shame ray. I picked up some doomy missiles of truth for the drone at a fire sale and got em for $0.0000001 on the dollar. Total waste of money as every one of ‘em was a dud.
moonbat betty
July 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
Gentlemen! Gentlemen!
Can’t we all just meet at Chick Fil-a and work this out?
getalife
July 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
They are expecting a massacre in Syria.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 27th, 2012
2:17 pm
Carney is so amusing:
“White House refuses to name Israel’s capital”
“http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/white-house-refuses-to-name-israels-capital/”
Peadawg
July 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
“They are expecting a massacre in Syria.”
I am curious as to why Obama sat this one out.
After Egypt and Libya, has he finally come to the conclusion that the US needs to stop policing the world? It’d be a good step forward if he has.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
Oh no Scout got his cut and paste from his spam wrong … wnd.com should be wackadoodlerabitthole.yak under the new domain system
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
Peadawg — “I asked you a simple, direct yes/no question @ 10:15 and instead of answering it like a grown up”
No, you *demanded* a yes/no answer.
“you change the subject and said “but but but cons”
Uh, no. I’d already been *making* that very same point since earlier in the morning.
There’s no ‘but but but cons’ involved. It’s an observation that cons are using the ‘but it’s LEGAL’ as a defense for Romney and his investments, but they’re ignoring that when it comes to women who want abortions. That means that they’re holding pregnant women to a higher moral and ethical standard than the one to which they hold a man who wants to be President. IMO, there’s absolutely no logical justification for that.
It’s like when Michael Moore released Fahrenheit 9/11 and repeatedly accused President Bush of misleading the American people with fabrications — only to get accused of the same thing himself. Why, exactly would someone hold a self-admitted political commentator to a higher standard of honesty and ethics than one would hold the President of the United States to?
It *appears* to me that cons give passes to their own — particularly their own leaders — that they won’t give to ordinary people. It’s as if being at the top of the heap somehow *excuses* you from having to maintain a high standard of ethics and character.
“…exactly like the cons do w/ a “but but but Obama” 10 posts into a new topic.”
Sorry, Peadawg, but you’re missing the entire point.
“And 4 hours like, still can’t man up.”
If “still can’t man up” means ‘lop off part of your argument to please me and then answer me in the way I demand’ then fine, I can’t man up. And I’ve got no problem with that.
As it stands, though, I’ve posited an argument for the adults here to consider, and if you don’t want in on that, it’s cool with me.
getalife
July 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
pea,
He could order another no fly zone at any minute.
It is a civil war and the rebels are winning but expecting a major battle.
Peadawg
July 27th, 2012
2:25 pm
“I can’t man up. ” – Thanks. I respect you a little more for admitting that.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
2:26 pm
Peadawg — “I am curious as to why Obama sat this one out. After Egypt and Libya, has he finally come to the conclusion that the US needs to stop policing the world? It’d be a good step forward if he has.”
If you’ll remember, the Libyan rebels were getting the crap pounded out of them and Obama ordered air support under the War Powers Act. Whereupon Congress lost their freaking minds. Perhaps the President feels that if Congress wants action in Syria, then they can give him an AUMF just like they did for President Bush in Iraq.
moonbat betty
July 27th, 2012
2:28 pm
Hopefully, they can recover Iraq’s WMD program from Syria.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
2:28 pm
Peadawg — “Thanks. I respect you a little more for admitting that.”
As I said, I’m not going to lop off part of my argument to please you. If it makes you feel better to say that, then fine, go ahead.
FWIW, I almost died a couple of years ago. Since then, I don’t really give a spit what folks think or say about me.
Brosephus™
July 27th, 2012
2:28 pm
For example, if you think someone is trying to steal your tractor out in the barn you might want to go outside with an AR-15 vs. a shotgun or pistol (acutally take the pistol too
If someone’s in your barn, thats what 9-1-1 is for. Why would you want to play John Wayne and insert yourself into a dangerous situation when there are people who are trained to handle and respond to such situations?
“It’s better to be a living witness instead of a dead victim.”
–Thomas Jefferson
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 27th, 2012
2:29 pm
peapup seriously pwned.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
2:30 pm
M. Betty — “Hopefully, they can recover Iraq’s WMD program from Syria.”
I LOLed.
Peadawg
July 27th, 2012
2:31 pm
“peapup seriously pwned.”
Ra Ra Sis Bombah
Go Kam Go!!!!!
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
2:32 pm
Brosephus — “If someone’s in your barn, thats what 9-1-1 is for. Why would you want to play John Wayne and insert yourself into a dangerous situation when there are people who are trained to handle and respond to such situations?”
Word.
getalife
July 27th, 2012
2:33 pm
congress does not want any involvement in their civil war.
They fear the Muslim Brotherhood taking over.
They cling to their Koran and guns.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 27th, 2012
2:34 pm
2 words – Scout Zimmerman.
getalife
July 27th, 2012
2:35 pm
Unload clips then dial 911.
Make sure they are in the barn.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 27th, 2012
2:36 pm
If someone’s in your barn, thats what 9-1-1 is for.
Not to mention that the use of deadly force to combat a crime against property is generally frowned upon in a big sorta way.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 27th, 2012
2:38 pm
Ya-hoo!
First on 82!
Brosephus™
July 27th, 2012
2:38 pm
JHM
I like guns just as much as many others. I’m trained to respond to situations as such. However, if I have a chance to avoid a life/death situation and let someone better equipped handle it, I have no problem with being a great witness. At the same time, if someone’s in my home, then I have to do whatever it takes to protect me and my family. I am not, however, going to inject myself into a situation that I can avoid.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 27th, 2012
2:39 pm
Brosephus:
“If someone’s in your barn, thats what 9-1-1 is for. Why would you want to play John Wayne and insert yourself into a dangerous situation when there are people who are trained to handle and respond to such situations?”
Because:
1) You have a right to protect your property (citizens arrest and deadly force if necessary based on what the perp does).
2) The police may be a half-hour away because of where you live.
3) This may be the third tractor in two years you have had stolen and you can’t afford another one or even the insurance deductable.
4) You are preventing the perps. from escaping and robbing others (or worse).
getalife
July 27th, 2012
2:42 pm
I am pro gun and the moonbat is hilarious.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 27th, 2012
2:43 pm
“Not to mention that the use of deadly force to combat a crime against property is generally frowned upon in a big sorta way.”
You don’t use deadly force to combat a crime against property (except car-jackings in the State of Georgia which is authorized).
You combat the theft of your property and IF THE PERP ESCALATES the situation causing you to use deadly force to protect yourself then that’s HIS problem.
The police confront this everyday when they roll up on a robbery or burglary. If they shoot the suspect it’s NOT because of the theft ………….. it’s because the perp ESCALATED the situation to where the officer was in fear of his life or seriously bodily injury.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 27th, 2012
2:45 pm
You have a right to protect your property
Where is that in the constitution? And of course common law has long provided since the spring gun cases in the 1600s that life is more valuable than property. But of course, in Scout world, life matters except when his property is involved, or they ain’t the right religion.
Brosephus™
July 27th, 2012
2:45 pm
Scout
If that’s what you feel, then by all means, do what you think you need to do. As an active member of the law enforcement community, I would never advocate that position.
What you fail to consider is that property can be replaced. Life can’t. I don’t care if the police are 2 hours away. If I can get a description of the person, vehicle, tag number, or anything that will help them, I’d rather advocate doing that instead of putting your life in jeopardy.
I don’t own anything that’s more valuable than my life. If I’m protecting my life, or the life of my family, then I’m going to respond as such. If it’s property, what good does it do to protect it if I’m killed in the process?
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
2:46 pm
0311 — “You combat the theft of your property and IF THE PERP ESCALATES the situation causing you to use deadly force to protect yourself then that’s HIS problem.”
When you say “combat,” what do you envision if the perp does not escalate? Trying to pull him off the tractor? That’s something I wouldn’t try, given how the rear wheels would probably run you over.
Could you elaborate for us, please? Supposing the perp doesn’t escalate with a firearm, what would you as a property owner do?
Peadawg
July 27th, 2012
2:47 pm
“Where is that in the constitution?”
A lot of “rights” these days don’t seem to be in the Constitution.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 27th, 2012
2:49 pm
betty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIFknAdVvNM
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 27th, 2012
2:50 pm
Brosephus @ 2:45
I hear you …………. it always depends on the situation.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2012
2:50 pm
“A lot of “rights” these days don’t seem to be in the Constitution”
And a lot of them ARE:
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Soothsayer
July 27th, 2012
2:50 pm
Oh! NOOOOO! Not guns and NASCAR again! PLEASE!
moonbat betty
July 27th, 2012
2:51 pm
Serious question:
If you are in your car and some idiot road rager jumps out if his car walking toward you in your car making threats/menacing physical language, etc. do you have the right to pull a gun and/or use it if they don’t back off?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 27th, 2012
2:52 pm
Joe @ 2:46
Depends on the situation:
1) 99% of the time ……… having a gun pointed at you will cause you to refrain from illegal activity.
2) Shoot the tires out of your own tractor.
3) Shoot the tires/radiator out of his truck.
4) The options are endless ……………….
It’s the “perp’s choice” !
Got to run again ………………. back this evening !
getalife
July 27th, 2012
2:53 pm
moonbat.
Yes.
moonbat betty
July 27th, 2012
2:53 pm
Hey, Sooth,
Guess what?
I gave a monster truck with a gun rack in the back window!
Yeee Haw!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 27th, 2012
2:53 pm
moonbat, often it depends on whether the individual is reasonable in their assessment of immenient danger
TaxPayer
July 27th, 2012
2:54 pm
“So, tell me again in your own words why you used deadly force by lobbing grenades at your garage in order to prevent a carjacking.” – Investigating Officer
Soothsayer
July 27th, 2012
2:55 pm
“If you are in your car and some idiot road rager jumps out if his car walking toward you in your car making threats/menacing physical language, etc. do you have the right to pull a gun and/or use it if they don’t back off?”
There was a case very similar to that a few years back. A guy got of his car and went over and banged on the windshield of another person’s car. The person in the car shot and killed the attacker. The Grand Jury refused to indict.
Brosephus™
July 27th, 2012
2:55 pm
betty
Georgia is part of the “New Wild, Wild West” in that, according to current law, there is no duty to retreat when defending yourself, others, or your home.
http://www1.legis.ga.gov/legis/2005_06/search/hb1061.htm
Fred ™
July 27th, 2012
2:55 pm
How does one acquire “property?” Why one buys it.
How do you “buy” something? With money.
How do you get money? you give up a portion of your life to earn the money.
Therefore someone stealing from me is stealing a portion of my life equal to the value of the item that scumbag POS is trying to steal. Damn right I’m going to defend it with any means necessary. As to “proper authorities?” Screw them. I have more weapons training than 99.9% of law enforcement officers.
You preach it scout, the folks on the airliners thta were crashed into the World Trade center sat there and did NOTHING. The students shot at VA. Tech sat there and did nothing. Doing nothing gets you killed. You may get killed defending yourself, but you’ll damn sure get killed or injured by being a pssy.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 27th, 2012
2:55 pm
One more quick one:
moonbat betty:
“If you are in your car and some idiot road rager jumps out if his car walking toward you in your car making threats/menacing physical language, etc. do you have the right to pull a gun and/or use it if they don’t back off?”
If he stays outside of you car and does nothing but yell ………….. no.
If he breaks a window and tries to get in …………. yes.
You have the right under Ga. law to have that weapon in your car (permit or not) and you have the right to keep him from getting it and using it against you.
Again …………… “the perp’s choice”.
Soothsayer
July 27th, 2012
2:58 pm
“I [h]ave a monster truck with a gun rack in the back window!”
Why am I not surprised. I thought Jay asked you to vacate the premises.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
2:58 pm
0311 — “1) 99% of the time ……… having a gun pointed at you will cause you to refrain from illegal activity.”
Good point. But if you do it, I hope he doesn’t have a firearm as well.
“2) Shoot the tires out of your own tractor.”
This sounds like the more reasonable course of action, but again, you’d better hope he doesn’t also have a weapon. The perp will likely think you’re shooting at him and would return fire. And he won’t be aiming for your tires, I bet.
I’m thinking about getting in my car or truck and ramming the front end of the tractor to either tip it over or damage the front wheel. And again, hoping he doesn’t have a firearm.
moonbat betty
July 27th, 2012
2:58 pm
0311 – if you just pointed a gun at them for approaching you in the car in a menacing way, could you be charged?
Brosephus™
July 27th, 2012
2:59 pm
I hear you …………. it always depends on the situation.
Exactly. In the barn situation, the perp is not in my home or threatening the life of me or my family. Getting 3 or 4 tractors stolen could be God’s way of telling me to get out of farming. After getting 2 tractors stolen, I would have probably done something to upgrade security around my barn anyway.
If my life isn’t in danger, I’m not willing to put it in danger just to protect some material item. That’s just my outlook.
Soothsayer
July 27th, 2012
3:00 pm
Oh no! The core nucleus is here: Fred, Bro, Scout. Now I know it’s guns and NASCAR. I’ll check back in later.
Dance Floor
July 27th, 2012
3:00 pm
Don’t just stand there, get your Cupid Shuffle on….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3XfEjqfnn4&feature=related
Brosephus™
July 27th, 2012
3:01 pm
Fred
Gotta disagree with you on that one. It’s one thing to protect your life. I tend to think my life is more valuable than any man-made item. I can’t answer for you though.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
3:01 pm
Fred — “You preach it scout, the folks on the airliners thta were crashed into the World Trade center sat there and did NOTHING.”
To be fair, in the vast majority of previous American hijackings, the pax were let go without injury at the conclusion of the hijacking. But the rules of hijackings changed for Americans on 9/11.
Charles Krauthammer observed as much in a column right after 9/11, and pointed out that when the people on the 4th flight found out what was going on, they resisted energetically. I have no doubt that if the people on the other three planes had had the benefit of that same knowledge, they would have resisted in like manner.
Brosephus™
July 27th, 2012
3:01 pm
Sooth
What if I talk about bull riding then?
moonbat betty
July 27th, 2012
3:01 pm
Sooth, he never said anthing.
I guess I’m not banned anymore.
I’ll be nice to you for now on, OK?
Fred ™
July 27th, 2012
3:02 pm
Soothsayer
July 27th, 2012
2:58 pm
“I [h]ave a monster truck with a gun rack in the back window!”
Why am I not surprised. I thought Jay asked you to vacate the premises.
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i asked her to come back. Case closed.
Ivan
July 27th, 2012
3:04 pm
Joe@2:58
“The perp will likely think you’re shooting at him and would return fire”
If you’re going solely based on theory, Joe, the perp would likely run if anything, weapon or not.
moonbat betty
July 27th, 2012
3:04 pm
Thanks, Fred.
Sooth, will probably cry to Jay and try to get me banned again.
Fred ™
July 27th, 2012
3:06 pm
Brocephus (and JHM): Nowadays you never know what the kook perpetrating the crime is going to do. Were I 100% sure he’d take the stuff and leave that would be one thing. However more and more (especially with the the and in GA 2 strikes rule) the perps feel they have nothing to lose. Although it’s a trite little saying it’s true:
I’d rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
3:06 pm
Ivan — “If you’re going solely based on theory, Joe, the perp would likely run if anything, weapon or not.”
Shrug. I’d still rather ram the tractor. It’ll still stop him and at least I’ll have some small degree of protection if he does decide to fire on me.
Fred ™
July 27th, 2012
3:07 pm
I was banned (I think) when you got banned the first time. What did you do lol?
moonbat betty
July 27th, 2012
3:08 pm
Fred – I told Sooth to stick his head in a toilet.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 27th, 2012
3:08 pm
Sooth, he never said anthing.
I guess I’m not banned anymore.
It’s difficult to claim banishment while you were still here but posting under a different handle.
I’m guessing it was just a time-out.
the cat
July 27th, 2012
3:09 pm
The world would be a safer and happier place if we all had paintball guns instead of assault weapons.
Brosephus™
July 27th, 2012
3:09 pm
Charles Krauthammer observed as much in a column right after 9/11, and pointed out that when the people on the 4th flight found out what was going on, they resisted energetically.
I’ll add that Richard Reid, the shoe bomber, got his ass whipped when he tried to light his shoes. The “Fruit-of-the-Loom” bomber got his ass whipped by passengers in addition to getting his junk burned up. Countless others who have tried to open doors or have been otherwise disruptive on flights have generally been given the business by passengers on planes. I don’t think anything like that will happen again without passengers going balls to the wall to defend themselves.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 27th, 2012
3:10 pm
Of course “the perp’s choice” in Scout World is always done with a wink wink, nudge nudge.
moonbat betty
July 27th, 2012
3:10 pm
Kamchak, are you the blog poodle or something?
Just askin’
the smaller the club,
July 27th, 2012
3:10 pm
the bigger the party…something about this blog….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS2EGp66Q98
Joe Hussein Mama
July 27th, 2012
3:11 pm
Brosephus — “I don’t think anything like that will happen again without passengers going balls to the wall to defend themselves.”
A young feller on one of my flights shortly after 9/11 almost got a beat-down from me and the other pax in First Class because we thought he was about to start something. Fortunately, one of the flight attendants recognized what was happening and defused the situation.
Fred ™
July 27th, 2012
3:11 pm
the cat
July 27th, 2012
3:09 pm
The world would be a safer and happier place if we all had paintball guns instead of assault weapons
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Just for you pal…………
http://www.fight4atl.com/
Brosephus™
July 27th, 2012
3:13 pm
Fred
I completely understand, and I don’t disagree with you. That said, in Scout’s example of someone breaking into my barn, I’m not going to leave the safety of my house to confront him in the barn, especially if I don’t know whether he has accomplices or lookouts waiting for me to leave the safety of my house.
That’s why my alarm is always set to go off instantly if something goes awry. It’s gonna take a few seconds to get to my bedroom, and by the time you get there, my defenses will be set and armed to protect.