Time to put on those travelin’ shoes and go a-fishin’
The first time I saw the great Elvin Bishop, we were both younger men. It was back in the early ’70s, in Raleigh, N.C., right about the time he put out his excellent and underrated album “Let It Flow.” Looking through the song list from that album — “Travelin’ Shoes,” “Stealin’ Watermelons” — is like going back in time.
That album also included Elvin’s classic celebration of fishing, the aptly titled “Fishin’.” It’s a critically important theme, so important that Mr. Bishop felt obligated to revisit it at more length in a later song, the equally aptly titled “Gone Fishin’ Again,” as in “me and my no-good friends are gone fishin’ again.”
Which of course we are. See ya’ll back here in a couple of weeks. Be good, be cool and be wishin’ you were with us, ‘cuz we plan on having us a damn good time.
– Jay Bookman
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Mighty Righty
July 23rd, 2012
4:21 pm
Does anyone know where the Colorado orange haired bozo was employed? Those guns and amunition are not cheap. He had a rather large apartment. Where does he get his money? Seriously!
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2012
4:22 pm
“They are too easy to make and sell on the black market.”
Godless heathen,
Careful with the common sense thing. Its a little too much for folks like keep up to handle.
JamVet
July 23rd, 2012
4:24 pm
Pea, not to pick on you, but I made the huge mistake of eating at a Krystal not long after I moved here in 1979.
My gawd, up until then I had no idea that it was actually legal to make burgers out of sawdust.
I think I’d rather eat…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
moonbat betty
July 23rd, 2012
4:25 pm
“Well Betty, you don’t think that someone buying thousands of rounds of bullets in a period of a few days might at least trigger a cursory investigation?”
How do you track it Keep?
At a shooting range, you can go through alot of rounds in only an hour.
There would be alot of federal investigating going on…for nothing.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2012
4:27 pm
JamVet,
Well you’re definitely right about it all being a bunch of crap food. Unfortunately a lot of people just eat it out of laziness or convenience or just not giving a shyte.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2012
4:29 pm
“At a shooting range, you can go through alot of rounds in only an hour.
There would be alot of federal investigating going on…for nothing.”
Oh lawdy. There they go agin beatin down keep with a whole lotta common sense.
TaxPayer
July 23rd, 2012
4:30 pm
I sure would like to trickle down on some more cons but I’m gonna need more tax cuts first. When are the cons gonna give me another tax cut. How about giving me zero income taxes on non-qualifying dividends. You can make it up by cutting medicaid and medicare and social security and federal pensions. Come on cons. Help me trickle down.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 23rd, 2012
4:31 pm
Doom — “Red herring? Oh noes. Now Suzie is really gonna get it from the federal food inspection folks. There’s some kinda nonsense someone sayin about red herring and her lemonade. I dunno. Maybe she put raw red herring in her lemonade and now folks is getting salmonella. And word is that the lemonade as a result has a putrid, fishy smell. Looks like keep up’s client can now add in a dangerous product in one helluva product liability case against Suzy. Poor Suzy.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule
moonbat betty
July 23rd, 2012
4:31 pm
JamVet,
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKgk3JAlFMo
Joe Hussein Mama
July 23rd, 2012
4:33 pm
Righty — “Does anyone know where the Colorado orange haired bozo was employed? Those guns and amunition are not cheap. He had a rather large apartment. Where does he get his money? Seriously!”
He was a doctoral student. It’s possible that he was funded through his university by some means; either by working for the school in some capacity or via scholarship/assistantship. That said, I don’t know for a fact where his money came from.
moonbat betty
July 23rd, 2012
4:34 pm
“Where does he get his money? Seriously!”
Probably mommy and daddy.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 23rd, 2012
4:35 pm
JamVet — “Pea, not to pick on you, but I made the huge mistake of eating at a Krystal not long after I moved here in 1979. My gawd, up until then I had no idea that it was actually legal to make burgers out of sawdust.”
Seriously, though — White Castle is WAY worse, IMO. I know they *look* exactly the same, but I’ve eaten at White Castles twice in my life and I was sorry both times. And I *like* Krystals. ‘Specially bacon cheese Krystals with jalapenos on them (on the rare occasions they have peppers on the menu).
Joe Hussein Mama
July 23rd, 2012
4:36 pm
Righty — Holmes apparently had a Federal grant from the NIH to pursue his studies. Here’s his Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Eagan_Holmes
Recon 0311 2533
July 23rd, 2012
4:36 pm
Gun control is placing rounds down range in a tight group within the center black circle on your target and placing two rounds into the thoracic cavity of an attacker.
moonbat betty
July 23rd, 2012
4:37 pm
Thulsa,
Where is this little Suzy?
Call the authorities!
This miscreant must be brought to justice!
I said JUSTICE!
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2012
4:40 pm
Appeal to ridicule? T’aint nothin funny bout Suzy’s terrible dilemna.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2012
4:42 pm
moonbat,
Between all the regulators they’ll get little Suzy. Not that many regulators are competent to begin with of course. They couldn’t catch Bernie Madoff swindling 50 billion despite repeated warnings and red flags. But they sure caught little Suzy.
Mighty Righty
July 23rd, 2012
4:44 pm
Joe Hussein, Moonbat, Thanks for input. I would think the media would be interested in his source of income but I haven’t seen the first interest by anyone in the subject. Seems strange. The media wants to know everything about him except where he got his money to buy the weapons he used.
pogo
July 23rd, 2012
4:45 pm
Record numbers on foodstamps. Record numbers of people on disability. Record poverty numbers. The 50 percent of us who are working are paying for the 50 percent of you who aren’t. America is going down the tubes and you liberals messiah Obama is overseeing it. The liberal created parasites should enjoy it while they can. The entitlement party is about to be over.
getalife
July 23rd, 2012
4:46 pm
Who let the moonbat out?
JamVet
July 23rd, 2012
4:47 pm
JHM, to each his own.
And I must confess that I do laugh at myself these days. Considering that I was once someone who lived a wild lifestyle back in the day – lots of alcohol, female types and multitudes of mind altering substances. And garbage food was a huge part of my diet.
Now I’m monogamous, work out, eat healthy stuff, drink very little and do a little a dobbie wah occasionally.
That’s it!
But no regrets. My only regret would have been had I not done all of that stuff when I was younger! (But then I would have been a Republican! Eewww! LOL!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZEy_kJ8nJU
josef
July 23rd, 2012
4:49 pm
Good Fight…
Loves me dem Muppets!
THULSA
Calm down, Mec, nobody’s threatening to sue Chik-fil-a! Cathy has made his stance, and now those opposed are making theirs.
CARLOS
Really, Son, that Christian academy education one is rather disingenuous. Some of the finest and most prestigious schools in the world are connected to religious institutions…I wouldn’t take anything for the time in Catholic schools…
Joe Hussein Mama
July 23rd, 2012
4:49 pm
Righty — “Joe Hussein, Moonbat, Thanks for input. I would think the media would be interested in his source of income but I haven’t seen the first interest by anyone in the subject. Seems strange. The media wants to know everything about him except where he got his money to buy the weapons he used.”
If you look at the footnotes on his Wiki page, most of them seem to have come from news organizations. The bit about him being on an NIH grant appears to have come from the Seattle Times.
Doggone/GA
July 23rd, 2012
4:50 pm
I’m not fond of Krystal burgers either, but when we first moved here they were a dozen for a dollar!
Joe Hussein Mama
July 23rd, 2012
4:51 pm
JamVet — “Now I’m monogamous, work out, eat healthy stuff, drink very little and do a little a dobbie wah occasionally. That’s it!”
The only drugs I do are prescriptions. And some of ‘em are awfully expensive.
getalife
July 23rd, 2012
4:52 pm
We ate Krystal or the Waffle House at four in the morning .
Thomas
July 23rd, 2012
4:53 pm
Another day of folks looking somehow to be a victim- of a fried chicken sandwich place?
For the love of god simply don’t eat at Chick fil a if it makes you feel better or get one of those hidden cameras in your hat and say Hi, I am _____, I am gay but well quailified and want to be hired. You could be in line for a nice law suit that will shut the company down, right? Secondly, go to Wendys where they are all about red headed folks with pig tails
I myself am going to venture to Bulldogs and then to little china town in San Fran and asked to be hired.
Mighty Righty
July 23rd, 2012
4:54 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
Thanks for the info. Those grants must be pretty darn lucrative to allow him to buy $6,000 to $10,000 in weaponry in addition to his normal living expense plus university cost.
Ch, ch, changes
July 23rd, 2012
4:54 pm
“Not that many regulators are competent to begin with of course.”
Well seeing that many used to work in the industry that they now “regulate”, is it a surprise?
Both Democrat and Republican load up agencies with their cronies and in many cases they come directly or indirectly from the industry in question.
Fox guarding the hen house in many cases
Erwin's cat
July 23rd, 2012
4:57 pm
MR – Thanks for the info. Those grants must be pretty darn lucrative to allow him to buy $6,000 to $10,000 in weaponry in addition to his normal living expense plus university cost.
I’m sure it was put on a CC he had no intention of paying off….how did they catch him anyway?
Doggone/GA
July 23rd, 2012
4:57 pm
“For the love of god simply don’t eat at Chick fil a if it makes you feel better”
Looks like someone’s scroll bar is broken
Joe Hussein Mama
July 23rd, 2012
4:57 pm
Righty — “Thanks for the info. Those grants must be pretty darn lucrative to allow him to buy $6,000 to $10,000 in weaponry in addition to his normal living expense plus university cost.”
I have no way of knowing if these figures are in the ballpark, but I found this by googling “NIH grants doctoral”
http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/notice-files/NOT-OD-12-033.html
If he was pursuing his PhD, then this table suggests he got about $22K. He’d probably supplement that with some sort of package from the university to cover tuition, fees and books; maybe he’d teach a freshman-level class or two in exchange for that. When I was in grad school, I taught one section per term and earned just enough to cover the cost of school. GI Bill and other jobs made up the rest of my income back then.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 23rd, 2012
4:59 pm
We ate Krystal or the Waffle House at four in the morning .
Me too, after a night of drinking.
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betty
The fact that you were already posting under whatever-the-hell that symbol you were using is an indicator that Jay already lifted the ban.
As far as shooting at the range — 6000 rounds is a lot of range time — a couple of hundred and I’m ready to find something to eat with a beer.
josef
July 23rd, 2012
4:59 pm
I loves me some Krystals! Yeah, I know they’re pure unadultrated garbage fried in grease and heart attack city, but when you want a Krystal, nothing else will do. After living in the Northwest for a year and coming back home on vacation, the first place I went after getting off the plane in Memphis…went to the one that was our high school hangout! Yum!
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
5:00 pm
My thoughts on PSU (Pedophile State):
1. No one owes anything to the Penn St fans. You choose to be fans for better or worse. If you want to be angry, be angry at the administrative staff that put you in this position.
2. The Penn St fans should be ashamed for their program and should want to self impose punishment to show support for those children who had their lives forever marred.
3. It is disgusting for the fans to point the finger the other way, to cry foul, to beg for leniency. Did these little boys get the help they needed when the staff at penn st heard their cries?
4. Imagine the painful, the vile, the dark things these kids went through. To see the whites of their terrified eyes, to hear the tears and blood drip as they scream in pain. The quiver in their lips begging for mercy. To have Penn St turn their back on these kids, to throw away their lives for the sake of the program…..
And all you fans can think about is your football experience? that’s disgusting, and mimic the culture at Penn St.
josef
July 23rd, 2012
5:04 pm
DDR
WORD!
barking frog
July 23rd, 2012
5:05 pm
DebbieDoRight – The Only
Thing Wrong With
Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
5:00 p.m.
JamVet
July 23rd, 2012
5:06 pm
It probably was a moronic business decision by the son of the Christian chicken dude.
They already have the agents of intolerance demographic.
All this might do is alienate the other people who might just take their chicken business elsewhere, instead of giving it to bigots and small minded people stuck in the 1950s.
To that extent, good on him. He makes enough dough, he doesn’t have to care…
Joe Hussein Mama
July 23rd, 2012
5:07 pm
http://deadspin.com/5927065/here-is-the-inevitable-photo-of-pedobear-posing-alongside-the-joe-paterno-statue
JamVet
July 23rd, 2012
5:12 pm
Although I find most of his stuff eminently forgettable, I do like this one…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJi4bln-hHQ
Ch, ch, changes
July 23rd, 2012
5:14 pm
JamVet
Cathy’s are very intelligent business folks. While I am not a Chickfila customer and certainly will not be in the future, they knew some push back was coming. They are good with it in my opinion.
I’m not saying I agree with it, but any company that has never had less revenue then they had the year before is not doing things on the fly. They made a calculated decision. Now it is time for people to decided if they want to engage in commerce with them.
Simple as that.
JamVet
July 23rd, 2012
5:18 pm
Bowie, agreed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um6eNkswv3g
RB from Gwinnett
July 23rd, 2012
5:19 pm
I’d bet most of these liberals don’t know there are thousands of people out there making their own bullets and making them by the thousands. Much cheaper and not very hard to do.
bman
July 23rd, 2012
5:20 pm
Penn State shouldn’t be fined, or penalized for anything. Okay, maybe hit them with a little for making the decision of hiring and appointing the wrong people in certain positions.
The ones who were responsible for the acts and cover-up should be held accountable.
josef
July 23rd, 2012
5:22 pm
Changes
@ 5:14
That’s about the size of it. Some folks will patronize the business because of the stance. some folks won’t. Most folks really won’t give it much thought. It remains to be be seen. There is the lesson of Anita Bryant and the cost to the Florida citrus industry…
Seriously, though, I am far, far more concerned with the Boy Scouts stance than I am Cathy’s…and, it looks like they’ll get by with it. C’est la vie, c’est la guerre, c’est la meme chose…
Jefferson
July 23rd, 2012
5:23 pm
The only thing that will run off chik-fila customers would be if it was full of gay folks. This is what Cathy wants.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 23rd, 2012
5:24 pm
Bowie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM0e1m9T9HQ
Ch, ch, changes
July 23rd, 2012
5:28 pm
RBG
Oh yeah, no liberal know that. Why did you let out the secret?
You are great at coming up with the unfounded and idiotic crap.
Brosephus™
July 23rd, 2012
5:28 pm
I’d bet most of these liberalsdon’tknowthere are thousands ofpeople out there making their own bullets and making them by the thousands.
You can do that
josef
July 23rd, 2012
5:29 pm
bman
I disagree…it’s the culture of the institution and the population. To hell with the little boys when the brand name and cash cow is at stake.
Ch, ch, changes
July 23rd, 2012
5:29 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtfpsLmmdVI&feature=related
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
5:30 pm
bman: Penn State shouldn’t be fined, or penalized for anything. Okay, maybe hit them with a little for making the decision of hiring and appointing the wrong people in certain positions
PSU should not have only been fined, they should’ve been told that all football related activities will be suspended for two years.
A “LITTLE” fine is offensive. Not only to the true victims, the children, of this travesty; but to the people with children who put their trust in The Second Mile, Sandusky, JoePa, and PSU.
What does it take for this to be considered bad for you? Would it have made it better if it was girls that were molested? Cheerleaders? How about the FOOTBALL players?
When the football program allows the morals to be set aside and become bigger than the supposed work of the university, to EDUCATE, then they have to be slapped down and made to realize that they are the problem.
“We Are PEDOPHILE STATE”.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2012
5:33 pm
DDR,
Its not the entire Penn State alumni base that is at fault. More like the 3-4 people left at the top who allowed the molester to continue unabated. I’m glad Penn St got penalized hard but I think a lot of people are missing a major point which is that young men who play on the team, current and future students, businesses who depend on football saturdays, lesser sports including women’s sports that are funded by football revenues, these are all people who are paying the price for the scandal. And none of them had anything to do with the cover up. We’re punishing a lot of people who had nothing to do with it.
And on top of that Penn State lost 40 scholarships to give away to football players. That’s 40 less young men- many of them minorities, who will not get to live out the dream of playing big time college football and more importantly will be deprived of a good and most of all free education at an otherwise good school.
That being said I think the fine and the money being set aside for victim abuse is a great idea.
The one thing that I have not seen in any of this rancor is what is going to happen to the 3 men at the top who covered up the whole thing? Are they going to be criminally prosecuted or can they even be criminally prosecuted? I’ve yet to read anything on the repercussions for the 3 men left who are most culpable. Just stuff on the university itself.
I think we would be better served focusing more on the 3 men who covered everything up then punishing multitudes of people from young men trying to get scholarships to students, fans, and small businesses and employees who had absolutely nothing to do with this. And keep in mind that that football pays for all the women’s sports. Don’t be surprised if several of the women’s sports are cancelled or money spent on those programs is reduced because of reduced football revenues. The lesser sports and athletes who play those sports will also be unfairly punished.
Just my opinion that a lot of people are going to be unfairly punished for something that they had nothing to do with and that I wish there was more of a focus on punishing the 3 men left who actually did the cover up. That’s all.
pogo
July 23rd, 2012
5:33 pm
For proof of exactly just what low levels network news will sink to, ABC’s reporting that the mother of James Holmes saying (early Saturday morning) that “they had the right person” is dispiccable. She knew nothing about the shooting when they called her in the early hours of Saturday and she was referring to herself. NBC, ABC, CBS, and most all of the rest of them have become nothing but tabloid networks who have no objectivity at all and are enamoured of liberalism/progressivism. They have all officially sold out. Their unwavering non-critical/non-questioning reporting of Obama should be proof enough of the deterioration of their credibility, but the Holmes story is proof positive. You can throw the NYT’s, the Washington Post and every medium sized big city newspaper in this country (including the AJC) into this unsavory pile as well. Journalism is dead and 5th branch of government no longer exists. No longer is there anywhere that the people of this country can go to find unbiased journalism to find out what is going on. Nowhere.
josef
July 23rd, 2012
5:35 pm
DDR
It’s football, you dumbass…macho, manly, all that testosterone stuff…they can’t possibly have any pedophiles. Coaches don’t do that, don’t you know. That’s the province of the priests…a double standard is at work, but don’t you dare point that out…ssshhh, sweep it under the carpet the same way we’ve been doing for generations…
And if it were females? Hey, that’s not pedophilia, doncha know? It’s perfectly acceptable, nay, encouraged, behavior. Just watch the breeder males and the studly attitudes they come off with when an old geezer snags him a young piece…it’s disgusting….
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
5:36 pm
josef: bman
I disagree…it’s the culture of the institution and the population. To hell with the little boys when the brand name and cash cow is at stake.
Word.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 23rd, 2012
5:37 pm
PENN STATE HAS BEEN NEUTERED !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 23rd, 2012
5:38 pm
Heard this today:
“A city that lets broken windows and graffiti in an area go unpunished will soon have robberies and murders.”
A lot of truth in that.
Ch, ch, changes
July 23rd, 2012
5:40 pm
Sports radio, of course, was talking about PSU today.
Outside of the tragedies themselves, people were talking about the taking away of wins.
One person asked does anyone think that the most of the kids recruited to PSU from 98 on would be there if Paterno or the school President would have said, by the way we have a child molester that was once on staff and still involved with the program via a charity……. and we are doing little to nothing about it?
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
5:40 pm
Doom: I’m glad Penn St got penalized hard but I think a lot of people are missing a major point which is that young men who play on the team, current and future students, businesses who depend on football saturdays, lesser sports including women’s sports that are funded by football revenues, these are all people who are paying the price for the scandal. And none of them had anything to do with the cover up. We’re punishing a lot of people who had nothing to do with it.
that’s how it always is. That’s how it was at USC — Reggie and the coach had already left, but USC’s players that came AFTER him are feeling the pain.
that’s how it’s been for decades. Why would you want it to change now? Because it’s Penn State?
josef: testosterone be damned! It’s amazing to me how people say, “oh it was AwwwwFul what what happened to the kids, BUT…..” that’s sickening to me. just sickening!
We Are PEDOPHILE State!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 23rd, 2012
5:41 pm
…when an old geezer snags him a young piece…
That “young piece” is after the bigger, better deal and is not as innocent as you are portraying. The name Anna Nicole Smith immediately leaps to mind
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 23rd, 2012
5:41 pm
Also this:
“In the past six months Obama has been fundraising 106 times, golfing 10 times and has met with his “jobs council” …………….. ZERO times.”
barking frog
July 23rd, 2012
5:41 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 23rd, 2012
5:37 pm
PENN STATE HAS BEEN
NEUTERED !
……
No. The lawyers for the
victims will do that.
getalife
July 23rd, 2012
5:41 pm
“Iraqi Insurgents Kill at Least 100 After Declaring Offensive” NYT
Syria has chemical weapons dispatched.
Israel declare open war with Iran.
There ya go pogo.
The news.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
5:43 pm
Doom: And keep in mind that that football pays for all the women’s sports. Don’t be surprised if several of the women’s sports are cancelled or money spent on those programs is reduced because of reduced football revenues
Title IX will take care of that. Thanks for your concern though.
Chhanges: Word!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 23rd, 2012
5:43 pm
P.S.
I personally think that it is unsavory for a Commander in Chief of any party to be out golfing while your troops are at war.
getalife
July 23rd, 2012
5:44 pm
Oh and Spain’s banks need bailouts and some are predicting a recession for us soon.
Ch, ch, changes
July 23rd, 2012
5:44 pm
The fallout for the school would have come down in 98 had Paterno and others had any character and integrity. And more so than that, less kids would have been victimized by Sandusky.
It snowballed for the victims due to the “Code of Silence” of not wanting embarrassment for the school and loss or revenue.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
5:45 pm
Frog – Word!
“We Are PEDOPHILE State!!”
getalife
July 23rd, 2012
5:45 pm
“Now watch this drive” w.
Ch, ch, changes
July 23rd, 2012
5:46 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
Did you say that when Bush was in office? Remember when he joked about WMD when US servicemen were dying in Iraq?
I know you said it today, but were you adamant about it when Bush was in office.
Thulsa Doom
July 23rd, 2012
5:46 pm
Debbiedo,
I understand that “because that’s the way they’ve always done it” explanation but that doesn’t make the punishment right. The fine I think is a good fine and is unprecedented. But the rest of it I think goes too far, punishes way too many people who have nothing to do with it, and again I would like to know why there isn’t more focus on the 3 men at the top who were behind it all. That’s all. And it doesn’t seem like we read anything about any possible repercussions for those 3. I haven’t seen anything on what if anything action is being taken against them.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
5:47 pm
It snowballed for the victims due to the “Code of Silence” of not wanting embarrassment for the school and loss or revenue.
Money changes everything. Wasn’ that a Cyndi Lauper song?
“We Are PEDOPHILE State!”
G Mare
July 23rd, 2012
5:48 pm
0311@5:43, SERIOUSLY? Does cutting brush as opposed to golf, bother you?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 23rd, 2012
5:49 pm
Debbie:
1) Shouldn’t Title IX be extended to professional sports? Heck, that ain’t fair to women.
2) Shouldn’t college and professional tennis have the same number of sets for men’s and women’s championships?
3) For that matter, shouldn’t one of the two U.S. senators from each state and half the Congresspersons be required to be women via Constitutional Amendment ?
I mean ……….. fair is fair.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
5:50 pm
Doom: I understand that “because that’s the way they’ve always done it” explanation but that doesn’t make the punishment right.
It makes them consistent. Question: What would’ve happened if, after decades of making the School pay for trangressions of people who had sometimes left 5 years earlier from the program; the NCAA would’ve suddenly changed their policy for Penn State?
Riddle me that one.
We Are PEDOPHILE State!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 23rd, 2012
5:50 pm
G Mare:
No.
josef
July 23rd, 2012
5:51 pm
DDR
Don’t know if you caught Maureen Dowd’s column yesterday or not…but an interesting read,
“If I were the Decider, I’d leave it up. But I’d put up another darkly alluring statue behind Paterno, whispering in his ear: Mephistopheles”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/22/opinion/sunday/dowd-paterno-sacked-off-his-pedestal.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120722
pogo
July 23rd, 2012
5:52 pm
How stupid have people become? Walking on hot coals for the charlatanTony Robbins? And they are complaining about it because they got burned? They got burned more by more than the hot coals. Morons.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
5:53 pm
1) Shouldn’t Title IX be extended to professional sports? Heck, that ain’t fair to women.
The word PROFESSIONAL negates your whole sentence.
2) Shouldn’t college and professional tennis have the same number of sets for men’s and women’s championships?
Again, the world PROFESSIONAL negates your whole sentence.
3) For that matter, shouldn’t one of the two U.S. senators from each state and half the Congresspersons be required to be women via Constitutional Amendment ?
I mean ……….. fair is fair.
Have you been drinking? Aren’t you starting a little TOO early?
Union
July 23rd, 2012
5:54 pm
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/14/obamas-100th-golf-round/
barking frog
July 23rd, 2012
5:56 pm
Penn State is trying to bury
this entire scandal with
Paterno but i think it will
take a few more bodies.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 23rd, 2012
5:57 pm
“Upside Down Land”
“You can get arrested for expired tags on your car but not for being in the country illegally.
The Supreme Court of the United States can rule that lower courts cannot display the 10 Commandments in their courtroom, while sitting in front of a display of the 10 Commandments.
You have to have your parents signature to go on a school field trip but not to get an abortion.”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 23rd, 2012
5:58 pm
Debbie:
Sorry. Thought you women wanted everything equal.
Just trying to help you get there.
pogo
July 23rd, 2012
5:58 pm
Penn state? It’s ALL about money. Universities make so much money from athletics they are willing to overlook basically anything. After all, they have to pay for all of those tenured liberal professors somehow don’t they?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 23rd, 2012
5:59 pm
P.S.
I don’t drink.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 23rd, 2012
6:01 pm
Union:
Thank you but a lot of folks won’t click on just a website so I pulled this out.
“The next time President Obama hits the links, it will be his 100th round of golf since coming to the White House. That’s quite a milestone in just 3 1/2 years. As it takes him about six hours to drive to the greens and complete 18 holes, Mr. Obama has spent the equivalent of four months’ worth of work time golfing. Meanwhile, the U.S. economy has been stuck in a sand trap.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/14/obamas-100th-golf-round/
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
6:02 pm
Frog: I read a column today in ESPN by a writer who questioned WHY PSU signed the infraction document with such speed. I’m thinking, like you, that there’s so much more that’ll come outta that closet in the next few weeks, that they wanted to take the first deal offered, slap their signature on it, to keep what little they have a football program intact before more information came out.
Here’s an excerpt from the column:
When Penn State president Rodney Erickson signed the consent decree imposed by the NCAA, he and the school agreed not only to the punishments but also to the monitoring, the supervision and to an enforcement process. This is not just a settlement contract. It is the document that governs enforcement and provides for penalties if Penn State screws up.
These agreements are typically negotiated by two organizations in the middle of a dispute. There is no indication of a negotiation or even a minimal role by Penn State or its president and his lawyers. A typical decree would say that Penn State neither admits nor denies wrongdoing. This decree is all about wrongdoing with Penn State admitting everything.
Consent decrees are ordinarily sterile legal documents, but this one expresses outrage. The decree states the evidence against Penn State “presents an unprecedented failure of institutional integrity leading to a culture in which a football program was held in higher esteem than the values of the institution, the values of the NCAA, the values of higher education, and, most disturbingly, the values of human decency.”
Penn State did not negotiate this document. Penn State surrendered to the terms of this document.
It is possible for a wealthy alumnus, a season-ticket holder, a coach, a taxpayer or even a student-athlete to file a lawsuit challenging the sanctions and the consent decree. But any lawsuits are doomed to failure. Erickson’s signature on the consent decree means that the university has agreed to the sanctions and to be bound by them for five years.
No one has the standing or the authority to challenge what Erickson and the university have agreed to do. Penn State expressly agrees that it cannot be challenged with “judicial process.” Anyone who files a lawsuit would face not only an early dismissal of the case but also the payment of the legal fees incurred by the NCAA and Penn State as they obtain the dismissal. The lawsuit would be an expensive failure.
– Lester Munson
bman.
July 23rd, 2012
6:02 pm
“What does it take for this to be considered bad for you?”
Alright now, I never said anything about it not being bad. “Bad” is very mild word. It’s beyond bad, and I’m not sure how my suggestion that those who are guilty, be held responsible. it’s the fault of very few people. It’s those few people who are responsible. It’s not the fault of the students, players, fans, or community (past, present, future,).
I even added that those who were responsible for the hiring, promoting, appointing etc…should be held accountable.
A man just recently walked into a theater and killed more than a dozen people. If I’m understanding your way of thinking, he isn’t the only one responsible for the murders. At the very least, his parents should be locked up and charged, right? How about past teachers? Shouldn’t the people who made and have made violent movies be responsible, too?
ps…I’m no college football fan. I have better things to do than sit around all day on saturdays watching that stuff. The “fine: by the NCAA doesn’t upset me at all. I just think it’s wrong…that’s all.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 23rd, 2012
6:03 pm
How stupid have people become? Walking on hot coals for the charlatanTony Robbins?
Not any stupider than that idiot snake handler preacher killed by a rattle snake that saw his daddy die the same way that he did.
josef
July 23rd, 2012
6:04 pm
K’Chak
So, that makes it right? And I’m not referring to consenting adults…that’s another matter entirely…
getalife
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DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
6:05 pm
Scout – you mean you’re like this all the time without chemical assistance?
Spooky…….
Ch, ch, changes
July 23rd, 2012
6:05 pm
0311
I figured when you had a minute you was going to post the following, but thought I would save you this post. Glad I was able to save you a minute or two.
There has been criticism of the president’s vacation at this time. But how does the number of vacation days the president has spent compare to his predecessors? CBS Radio’s Mark Knoller has kept track of presidential vacations for years and supplied the data.
So far, President Obama has taken 61 vacation days after 31 months in office. At this point in their presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch where his staff often joined him for meetings. And Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.
Among recent presidents, Bill Clinton took the least time off — 28 days.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18563_162-20093801.html
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Selective outrage to say the least.
Ch, ch, changes
July 23rd, 2012
6:06 pm
Union
Forgot to address you in my 6:05, but that was meant for 0311 and you.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
6:08 pm
bman – I’ll ask you the same thing that I asked Doom earlier:
Question: What would’ve happened if, after decades of making the School pay for the trangressions of people who had sometimes left 5 years earlier from the program; the NCAA would’ve suddenly changed their policy for Penn State?
Brosephus™
July 23rd, 2012
6:09 pm
Yo can do that, but you’re fooling yourself if you don’t think Uncle Sam knows about it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 23rd, 2012
6:12 pm
So, that makes it right?
Nope, and I never said that it did, All I said was they were not as innocent as you seem to be portraying them.
And I’m not referring to consenting adults…that’s another matter entirely…
“Consenting adults” are not the only people that can form intent. A 16 year old can decide to be a gold digger just the same as an 18 year old.
barking frog
July 23rd, 2012
6:13 pm
DebbieDo
They seem to be setting up
a legal position with Erickson
the chief sacrifice along with
the others probably to go
in negotiation with the
victims since they allegedly
were the only ones aware
of the molestation.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Captalists..
July 23rd, 2012
6:15 pm
josef – thanks for the link. From the article:
But Freeh learned the sulfurous truth: that it was Paterno who persuaded Graham Spanier, who was the university president, Gary Schultz, a vice president, and Tim Curley, the athletic director, not to report Sandusky to state authorities. Eager to protect the brand and their cash cow, they decided to rationalize. Euphemistically, they said they wanted to do the “humane” thing; so they warned Sandusky to stop bringing children onto campus. As far as the noble coach was concerned, Sandusky could simply switch the venue of his child rapes.
Paterno, Freeh said, made “the worst mistake of his life,” committing the deadly sin of pride. After all those decades acting the part of a modest, moral man, he put his own reputation above the welfare of children. The saint in black cleats sold his soul, and Satan leads the dance.
She’s very eloquent and she nailed it on the head.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 23rd, 2012
6:18 pm
Changes:
““In the past six months Obama has been fundraising 106 times, golfing 10 times and has met with his “jobs council” …………….. ZERO times.”
My post was about fundraising and golf outings ………… not vacations.
But that said, you left this out:
“These numbers are separate from his 20 visits to Camp David spanning all or part of 48 days.”
And I don’t see (and really don’t care) any figures on the comparative costs between the presidents’ various “vacations” ………. for example going to the ranch in Texas (one’s home) vs. Martha’s Vinyard.