NRA, gun industry once again mine profit from paranoia

“Consider, if you will, LaPierre’s explanation for why that 10-point plan was never implemented. He now argues that the fact that Obama has done nothing regarding gun control — the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence has even given Obama an “F” rating — in fact proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he’s a sinister gun-grabber.”

ah, yes … the heads I win / tails you loose gambit …

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Ha! Ninja’d the hell out of you, UK.

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P-dawg –

the first time I’ve ever seen ninja as verb … and I’m so stealing it!

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“There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — [pauses] — shame on you. Fool me — [pauses] — You can’t get fooled again.”

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Consumers. You gotta love ‘em. The capitalist thing to do would be to spread talk about how them Muslims are invading as we type and they are out there buying up all the guns and ammo from local suppliers so there will not be any left for conservative Christian Republican patriots, the only ones that love America, to use to defend themselves.

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-It reminds us that if people really want to believe something — even something manifestly ridiculous, illogical and countermanded by facts — they will still find a way to do so.

exhibit 1: President obama “I only need 4 more years to accomplish all that stuff you fell for last time” Hopey/changey you can believe in.

Vote obama: Power to the sheeple!

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Hahaahahah…wow…I wonder how many Priuses were sold because of the “sky is falling” claim of man made global warming.

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PD @ 8.43, if you want a real treat, actually *watch* that Bush video wherein he utters that now-famous bollocks-up of a line everyone already knows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

(ignore the laugh-trackin’ in the background–it was probably swiped from Jon Stewart or such.)

What’s really priceless, what keeps me coming back to watch it again and again, is what Bush actually DOES, body-English-wise, when he realizes he’s screwing up. He starts SELLING it. You get the impression that he’s been there, done that scores of times in the past. You can see the gears turning in his brain: “I can make this work, if I just put my hand out there like… SO. And deliver the rest of the line with confidence.”

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Those gun buyers may have been duped….but they are prepared.

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usinuk,
so in that sense, Romneycare is better than Obamacare’s “war on women”, right?

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Obamacare doesn’t include abortions – Romneycare does

FIFTY DOLLAR ABORTIONS!

Abortions so cheap that even if have LOTS OF SEXYTIME SEX, you don’t need that extra-expensive birth control that sluts want the government to pay for. You can just have abortions!

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(yes, I do hope that things never get so grim for Team Obama in this 2012 general election season that they have to schlep around this stinky bait, but I’m not above it. Nosirree.)

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Tangentially on topic

Everyone should have to buy a gun or pay a tax penalty.

After all, we’re all in the marketplace for security, but those without guns have a greater need for the police and security.

Back to the regular scheduled programming.

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but they are prepared.

…to sell their stuff to me for pennies on the dollar in a year or two. Heh.

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Pea… That was the sleeping giant waiting to be awoken.

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Stands.. You wouldn’t buy a gun would you? What would the other bloggers on here think?

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Like T.S. Eliot’s arch-villain McMavetey the Mystery Cat

“when it comes to seizing all your guns;
Obama isn’t there!!!”

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“So … the two plans are different because the number of pages differ?”

yes for that, and many many other reasons.

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It’s impossible to argue that a bill 35 times longer than the other is the same.

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Why worry about who does and does not have guns…. I mean according to some, if it is god’s plan for them to kill you…. it’s God’s fault, no regrets!

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Yeah these kind of folks are clinging to their guns and religion…

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The Bible said it 2,500 years ago in Proverbs: “The instruction of fools is folly.”

And yes, dumb people with guns scare me more than smart people with guns. I’m scared that so many of these people are so easily swayed by racist and political campaigns.

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Jay

of course the 2 plans are different.

I just counted the words and ‘the’ was used more times in one than the other

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Show me somebody that is stocking up on AR-15’s and ammo ‘for protection’ and I will show you someone that is about 300 times more likely to hurt himself or someone else accidentally than ever protect himself…

The NRA sold out years ago.

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Political classifications have become a social classification in this generation. If you run with a macho crowd you have to be conservative, if you run with a religious crowd you have to be conservative, if you are liberal you are gay, communist or worse. For these social reasons declaring one’s self open minded especially in the south which has a innate inferiority complex to start with will shut down any popularity your natural personality can muster.

I have notice the most brilliant southern people with facilitate the most brain dead beliefs in fear of not getting into a country club or private school or any other social reward held high. So you have Ivy Leaguers in the south believing gay life is a personal choice, Obama is not born in this country, and illegals are the ruination of this nation. To think differently is not worth the torture to many. Religion gets the same drag of logic because it is not religion people practice it is to be seen that matters. If you are liberal that is not an option in the south, creativity depends upon different, social well being depends on walking a straight line.

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The NRA is pure lunacy and about 38% of the voting population listens to them! Kids carrying guns to school and they don’t want to do ANYTHING to change that… bad for business and bad for tamping down all the paranoia they promote!

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Stands.. You wouldn’t buy a gun would you?

Why not? I owned my first lethal bang-shootie thing before I could drive.

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Jm- Everyone should have to buy a gun or pay a tax penalty

Just waiting on obama to pick the winner for us. You know people aren’t smart enough to make a decision on their own.

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With all the communist and marxist “mentors” BHO has had, I’d rather have a stockpile than wait and not be able to secure my home and family. Once bitten, twice shy. If he continues with his class warfare and spending our country into a worthless currency, I’ll at least be protected from the “class” that stages flash mob robberies (see Jacksonville walmart for the latest example). Have a great day.

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The NRA likes to put it in your face in order to raise money (I am a gun owner, and don’t agree with this tactic). Actually, the assault on gun ownership is more insidious. They seek to 1) make it harder to get/transfer weapons without leaving a paper trail and 2) make it difficult to get ammunition for the gun. The real threats are things like the EPA regulating lead used in bullets. Or, stopping person-to-person sales of weapons without transferring through an FFL (those with a license to transfer firearms who will use the NICS database), thus adding a fee to every sale and creating a pseudo “registry” of all guns (assuming most guns change hands within a generation).

Most actual gun owners see through the NRA nonsense. They are more concerned about ammunition shortages like occurred in 2008 and persisted for almost two years.

I don’t think people are viewing this election like that in 2008. In 2008, there was real concern that a Democratic led house/senate/whitehouse would act against gun owners. They didn’t, as they were too busy with Obamacare to pay attention to anything else including guns or the economy. This election is not the same, but there is always a concern that the WH will use it’s executive power to rule on some aspect of gun ownership that will be illegal and will take the courts to untangle.

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Jay- So … the two plans are different because the number of pages differ?

Romneycare is a state-run healthcare plan. Obamacare is a tax.

Maybe you should should read it so you can find out all the neat things inside the law…

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What liberal Democratic pol from a large northern city is not a proponent of strict gun control? President Obama?? Sure. He’s good at reading the polls and wise to realize that it’s not a winning position with the American people outside of a few liberal conclaves. He’ll have more latitude after the election (if he’s re-elected), but no congressional support so I do not see any more Clinton-esque gun grabbing in the near future.

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Let’s see:
The whole “fast and Furious” uproar is about letting people buy guns.
Guns in national parks now OK
In 3 1/2 years not one federal gun control initiative, let alone signed legislation….

That Obama sure is a slippery devil.

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M F seems to believe that liberals do not own firearms and instead sing Kumbaya as protection. As a liberal I can assure MF that is false. I own a gun but I’m also in favor of background checks for mental patients–something conservatives and the NRA fight against, (I suspect) because so many right wingers would fail the background check.

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My lousy aim has forced me to limit my weapons purchases to horse shoes. Or was it, hand grenades. I forget. I do hope I remember which to take to the park the next time we have a friendly game planned.

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Would it help if there were a law requiring gun owners to post a sign on their property stating that guns are present? Many gun owners would love that…and so would criminals.

Yes, criminals would love that, because guns are a treasure trove to a burglar. You have to be home to use that gun. Why don’t you post a sign saying “lots of cash and gold coins here?”

There is something weird about this “ooh, criminals are so skeered of me” richard-swinging. Then again, there’s plenty of gun owners who seem to do nothing but sit in the house cleaning their guns and posting paranoid $#!^ on the internet. So maybe they are home all day.

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Who bought it? The gun store owners who promptly took it back to their stores and resold it for two or three times the

Piffle!! (thanks GG)

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F. Sinkiewicz — “It’s common knowledge that Dems would implement such laws nationally if they got the chance. It’s in their DNA.”

Don’t do drugs, kids!

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guns and ammo…..

my preciousssssssssssss

can’t let the hobbits get

my preciousssssssssssss

my preciousssssssssssss

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JKL — “Obamacare is a tax.”

No, it’s not, and even the SCOTUS decision didn’t say that it was.

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Well I think the NRA is a bit nutty

But I give them credit for this:

Any foreign country would be insane to invade the US

We’re armed to the teeth

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“Most guns used by criminals are bought in the after-market from cons.”

Proof?

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It is amazing that in conservative world, time travel is possible. It is real…People have traveled back in time to create President Obama. And now Hollywood traveled all the way back to 1993 to create DC Comics character Bane to slight Mitt Romney. It must be cool to travel back in time to change the future…

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/rush-limbaugh-takes-batman-dark-knight-rises-features-villain-a-deliberate-ploy-impune-mitt-romney-article-1.1116479

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Bullets go bad.

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“Most guns used by criminals are bought in the after-market from cons.”

Proof?

Cons proclaim that liberals do not own guns so who they gonna turn to, ye of short memory.

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Those evil Republicans are going to take away your Social Security/healthcare/poison your drinking water etc, etc, blah blah blah…

Let me guess, you need proof.

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Joe Hussein Mama:

You are clearly uninformed….

The Act provides that this “penalty”
will be paid to the Internal Revenue Service with an individual’s taxes, and “shall be assessed and collected in the same manner” as tax
penalties. §§5000A(c), (g)(1).

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“Yes, criminals would love that, because guns are a treasure trove to a burglar. You have to be home to use that gun. Why don’t you post a sign saying “lots of cash and gold coins here?””

How many thugs have been killed by cash/gold coins vs. a nice warm lead slug being introduced into their carcass???

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Joe Hussein Mama:

Making libs foam at the mouth is my hobby… I can’t do that at Blogspot or Wordpress because you loons would never subscribe to my blog…….

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Joseph — “You are clearly uninformed….”

Nope. I’m better informed than you.

“The Act provides that this “penalty”
will be paid to the Internal Revenue Service with an individual’s taxes, and “shall be assessed and collected in the same manner” as tax
penalties. §§5000A(c), (g)(1).”

Not if you’ve got insurance already. I won’t be penalized. Therefore, not a tax.

And once again, even the SCOTUS didn’t say it was a tax, and I’m sure they’re better informed that you or me on the topic.

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In July, a federal judge in Florida permanently blocked an NRA-backed Florida law that threatened to strip doctors of their medical licenses if they warned patients about the proven risks of guns in the home. The court ruled that the law violates the First Amendment because it interferes with truthful speech about the dangers of easy access to guns.

Because in NRA land, the 2d amendment trumps the 1st and because no one should have the information to make an intelligent decision…. The NRA will lead the lemmings!

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joe mama- No, it’s not, and even the SCOTUS decision didn’t say that it was.

It’s only constitutional because it is a tax. But It’s not really a tax because obama said so. Got it.

Vote obama: Power to the sheeple!

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Joseph — “Making libs foam at the mouth is my hobby…”

Punkin, you clearly haven’t clued in to the fact that you’re a figure of fun here. We’re not frustrated by you. We’re *laughing* at you.

“I can’t do that at Blogspot or Wordpress because you loons would never subscribe to my blog…….”

Why would we need to, when we get our fun-filled bugnuts conservaposts delivered to us right here?

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Joe Hussein Mama:

Wow you people just hold your ears and bang your heads against the wall don’t you… What a dense lot you libs are…..

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/taxes-going-pay-pay-obamacare-145413745.html

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JKL — “’s only constitutional because it is a tax.”

Which is not what the SCOTUS said.

Go get yourself up to speed by reading what the decisions actually said, then come on back and we can talk.

“But It’s not really a tax because obama said so. Got it.”

Nope. Failing to read the SCOTUS decisions but behaving like you did doesn’t make you look smart. It just makes you look desperate and clueless.

Again, go read what they SAID — not what some wingnut website CLAIMS they said — and come on back. I’ll be waiting.

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ty webb @ 8:42:
the sentence is true. The ACA is almost exactly the same Health care Act Newt proposed in ‘96, yes it’s centerpiece was the individual mandate. The only difference I can find so far was Newt’s had massive tort reform. To help the people? Yea, people at insurance companies.

Back on subject:

1. Why in hell would anyone not in the Military need an AR-15? Ever see what they do to squirrel?

2, GA’s requirements for carrying concealed. No training or safety. A tighty rightie with a gun. Disaster looking for a place.

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I asked a rather simple question that could be easily satisfied with a link – even one to Huffington yet you default to typical lib logic mode.

MiltonMan,

You could always try to refute my logic. Perhaps with data showing that mostly liberals purchase guns and sell them in the aftermarket, etc.

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Here is your “idiotic lib of the moment” link – none other than one of Obozo’s hand pick clowns:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/13304283-418/emanuel-determined-to-preserve-city-gun-law-despite-judges-ruling.html

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Obamacare bans all guns
and hunting so this thread
is moot.

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A lot of that Republican hearing on Obama not supplying the information and Holder being held in contempt is a paranoid gun crew thinking O is after them so they are creating this charade to rally around. Bachmann does this creation of fear and rakes in political donations. The woman can’t get a national audience but she is a power broker because instead of giving money to a cause like cancer or orphan kids, people of laying it out for guns and Bachmann lies. Delay became Speaker of the House as did Newt churning up these science fiction novels poorly written to raise money from idiots. Criminals operating with immunity of being politicians, with the exception of Delay who finally was convicted.

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joe mama- Punkin, you clearly haven’t clued in to the fact that you’re a figure of fun here. We’re not frustrated by you. We’re *laughing* at you.

Ditto

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This one’s for you, MiltonMan. You party pooper:

Virtually every gun starts out as a legally manufactured product, but the
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) points to three common ways guns move from legal distribution channels to the criminal market:
•Corrupt federally licensed gun dealers: Federally licensed gun dealers send more guns to the criminal market than any other single source. Nearly 60% of the guns used in crime are traced back to a small number—just 1.2%—of crooked gun dealers. Corrupt dealers frequently have high numbers of missing guns, in many cases because they’re selling guns “off the books” to private sellers and criminals. In 2005, the ATF examined 3,083 gun dealers and found 12,274 “missing” firearms.
•Straw purchasing: Straw purchasing is the most common way criminals get guns, accounting for almost 50% of trafficking investigations. A straw purchaser is someone with a clean record who buys guns on behalf of someone legally prohibited from possessing guns. Straw purchasers are often the friends, relatives, spouses or girlfriends of prohibited purchasers. The two Columbine High School shooters recruited friends to buy guns for them at Colorado gun shows. One of the buyers admitted she would not have bought the guns if she had been required to submit to a background check.
•Gun Shows and private gun sales: Gun shows have been called “Tupperware parties for criminals” because they attract large numbers of prohibited buyers. A loophole in federal law allows unlicensed or “private” sellers, many of whom work out of gun shows, to lawfully sell or transfer guns without conducting a criminal background check. Gun show dealers have been known to advertise to criminals with signs that read “no background checks required here.”

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The NRA teaches common sense and safety with weaponry. I’m sick and tired of the left and the lamestream media beating up on the NRA. I feel like I should be writing them more checks after reading the idiocy on this blog. Again, Bill White’s not going to be around to protect you silly naive secular progressives.
GOOD NIGHT!
Amen,
Bill

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But, in a moments notice, they could become a pretty powerful force to be dealt with say for someone in power decided to exceed their authority and do something stupid like declare marshal law

Apparently someone has not heard about them Obama secret drones that wipe out entire wedding parties in Wisconsin.

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If Obama could not do it with 60 Dem Senators and a majority in the house then I don’t think there is much of a threat now.

Gun ownership per 100 people:

United States 88.8 1
Serbia 58.2 2 [5]
Yemen 54.8 3
Switzerland 45.7 4
Cyprus 36.4 5
Saudi Arabia 35.0 6
Iraq 34.2 7
Finland 32.0 8 [6]
Uruguay 31.8 9
Sweden 31.6 10
Norway 31.3 11
France 31.2 12
Canada 30.8 13
Austria 30.4 14
Iceland 30.3 15
Germany 30.3 15

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Why on earth would anyone think Obama is a marxist? Gee, could it be because his grand parents that raised him were communinsts? Could it be because his mother was a communist? Could it be because his admitted mentor was a communist? Could it be because many of his closest advisors in the white house are communists? Could it be because he has adopted as his reelection slogan a communist motto? Could it be because his “redistribution of wealth” ideaology is basic communism? Could it be becuase his policies are designed to destroy capitalism? Could it be because his “big” government ideas mimic communism? Individually none of those things mean anything, but collectively I just can’t imagine why anyone would think he is anything other than a marxist.

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Joseph — “Yes and they clearly stated it was a tax…”

The SCOTUS said no such thing.

“Right there on the first page… Perhaps when your reading it the word TAX just isn’t legible to you??? LOL??”

Again, you can rely on Yahoo all you want. I prefer to rely on what the SCOTUS actually said. (laughing, pointing)

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“Hahaahahah…wow…I wonder how many Priuses were sold because of the “sky is falling” claim of man made global warming.”

Never mind the fact that oil is a finite resource and at some point we’ll have to have alternatives, so priouses and their ilk will be necessary, and also never mind the fact that the whole “Obama is going to take your guns” is an outright fabrication to scare the idiot cons into wetting their pants…(successfully I might add…)

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TaxPayer

July 19th, 2012
9:35 am
This one’s for you, MiltonMan. You party pooper:

Virtually every gun starts out as a legally manufactured product, but the
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) points to three common ways guns move from legal distribution channels to the criminal market:
•Corrupt federally licensed gun dealers: Federally licensed gun dealers send more guns to the criminal market than any other single source. Nearly 60% of the guns used in crime are traced back to a small number—just 1.2%—of crooked gun dealers. Corrupt dealers frequently have high numbers of missing guns, in many cases because they’re selling guns “off the books” to private sellers and criminals. In 2005, the ATF examined 3,083 gun dealers and found 12,274 “missing” firearms.
•Straw purchasing: Straw purchasing is the most common way criminals get guns, accounting for almost 50% of trafficking investigations. A straw purchaser is someone with a clean record who buys guns on behalf of someone legally prohibited from possessing guns. Straw purchasers are often the friends, relatives, spouses or girlfriends of prohibited purchasers. The two Columbine High School shooters recruited friends to buy guns for them at Colorado gun shows. One of the buyers admitted she would not have bought the guns if she had been required to submit to a background check.
•Gun Shows and private gun sales: Gun shows have been called “Tupperware parties for criminals” because they attract large numbers of prohibited buyers. A loophole in federal law allows unlicensed or “private” sellers, many of whom work out of gun shows, to lawfully sell or transfer guns without conducting a criminal background check. Gun show dealers have been known to advertise to criminals with signs that read “no background checks required here.”

So, using your logic, (1) The FEDERALLY licensed gun dealers = all cons; (2) Straw purchaser is a liberal who convinces his con friends to buy guns from a con dealer; (3)Criminals are libs who buy their guns at gun shows from cons. So the ATF agents in Fast & Furious were all libs who were forced to buy guns from all cons who also forced them to “hand-over” said guns to libs in Mexico.

Sounds like your “logic” is back firing on you little buddy

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Welcome to the “Obama for President” Campaign Blog

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Ima Librul — “Mama…………..Most of these 45 million ain’t bed wetters. It’s Obama’s worst nightmare to accomplish his real dream.”

Given that he hasn’t made Move One to accomplish what you call “his real dream,” I’m going to have to go with the NRA Is Full Of Crap reply to your assertion.

Speaking of the NRA and their scary bullcrap, where are the “jack-booted government thugs” they promised us about ten years ago?

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NIGHT WATCHMAN

Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle of a desert.

Congress said, “Someone may steal from it at night.”

So they created a night watchman position and hired a person for the job.

Then Congress said, “How does the watchman do his job without instruction?”

So they created a planning department and hired two people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do time studies.

Then Congress said, “How will we know the night watchman is doing the tasks correctly?”

So they created a Quality Control department and hired two people. One was to do the studies and one was to write the reports.

Then Congress said, “How are these people going to get paid?”

So they created two positions: a time keeper and a payroll officer then hired two people.

Then Congress said, “Who will be accountable for all of these people?”

So they created an administrative section and hired three people, an Administrative Officer, Assistant Administrative Officer, and a Legal Secretary.

Then Congress said, “We have had this command in operation for one year and we are $918,000 over budget, we must cut back.”

So they laid-off the night watchman.

NOW slowly, let it sink in.

Quietly, we go like sheep to slaughter. Does anybody remember the reason given for the establishment of the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY during the Carter administration?

Anybody?

Anything?

No?

Didn’t think so!

Bottom line is, we’ve spent several hundred billion dollars in support of an agency, the reason for which very few people who read this can remember!

Ready??

It was very simple… and at the time, everybody thought it very
appropriate.

The Department of Energy was instituted on 8/04/1977, TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL.

Hey, pretty efficient, huh???

AND NOW IT’S 2012 — 35 YEARS LATER — AND THE BUDGET FOR THIS “NECESSARY” DEPARTMENT IS AT $24.2 BILLION A YEAR. IT HAS 16,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES ANDAPPROXIMATELY 100,000 CONTRACT EMPLOYEES; AND LOOK AT THE JOB IT HAS DONE!

(THIS IS WHERE YOU SLAP YOUR FOREHEAD AND SAY, “WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?”)
34 years ago 30% of our oil consumption was foreign imports. Today 70% of our oil consumption is foreign imports.

Ah, yes — good old Federal bureaucracy.

NOW, WE HAVE TURNED OVER THE BANKING SYSTEM, HEALTH CARE, AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY TO THE SAME GOVERNMENT?

Hello!! Anybody Home?

Signed….

The Night Watchman

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“And foolish me I didn’t realize it was Hillary and the UN who are going to take your guns and or ammo this time. So just run off to the gun store like good little lemmings and make the gun manufactures and store owner rich. May end up putting some people back to work before the election! Ever think of that?”

Yep, the same Hildabeast who tried to convince us that her husband’s supposed affairs were nothing more than a right wing witch hunt.

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ITS ALL BUSH’S FAULT:

“Real men don’t need a gun”

You are correct in part ………. but they do need one against evil men ……. who have guns.

But then I’m guessing you have never been there …………..

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Two Headlines:

17 wounded after gunman opens fire in Tuscaloosa
2 killed, 19 hurt in shooting at outdoor party in Toronto

How could the second one happen? Guns are not allowed in Canada !

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Moderate Line

July 19th, 2012
9:37 am
If Obama could not do it with 60 Dem Senators and a majority in the house then I don’t think there is much of a threat now.

I hope you are right. However this president has shown he has no obligation to uphold his oathe of office and ignores our laws and constitution as he chooses.

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Joseph — “Should you perhaps change your name to rambler… Because you make no sense…”

I make plenty of sense. You’re just not listening.

The SCOTUS did *not* call the ACA a tax, no matter what else anyone wants to say about it. The assertion that the ACA is a tax is simply not objectively true.

“But I guess that’s a liberal thing….

I can’t help it if you can’t keep up with me, Joseph.

“To take a quote from the great Governor John Sununu.. “Your struggling” Joe Hussein Mama….”

Given how quickly Sununu had to back off and apologize for what he said the other day, I’m really don’t impressed by anything he has to say.

Besides, Punkin, you’re reduced to posting Yahoo links to argue with the SCOTUS. I’m not a bit concerned. (laughing)

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“Why in the world would anyone want a car that will go 100 mph when the legal limit is 70? Ever see what a car going 100 mph does to whatever it hits?”

Excellent reply to a squirrely anti-gun nut.

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I hope they are only buying guns and ammo made in the USA. Good for the economy.

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Joe Hussein Mama:

Poor poor lost soul… Bless your heart….

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JHM…. oh come on, if it is not in the fearmail to cut and paste you can’t expect Scouty to know about it….

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It should be a requirment that every head of household should own a rifle or a shotgun.
Works in Kenesaw, Switzerland and Isreal.

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Paranoia strikes deep…

Into your soul it will creep…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/18/samuel-williams-duwayne-henderson-davis-dawkins-internet-cafe-shooting_n_1682519.html

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the cat- I am mostly upset that these delusional people vote.

And as Democrats they get to conitnue voting long after their dead. Anyone trying to take away their constitutional right to do so is a racist!

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NRA=Libs

Some more of that MiltonMan=LaPierre logic.

I wonder if MiltonMan is sporting that latest NRA bumper sticker: “GunShows are for Libs.”

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Pizzaman,
(re: your 9:30) Newt has never been a republican governor, therefore I posit that Jay wasn’t referring to Newt in that untrue sentence he typed, which I referenced.

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Recon — “I think there will be reminders of this decision during the weeks leading up to Novembers election but of course the left doesn’t enjoy hearing it.”

On the contrary. We LOVE hearing it.

Bring it up some more. LOTS more.

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I have no problem with guns,
its stupid people with guns that bother me
hyped up on 5 gallon buckets of red bull racist hate
like the target audience of that ad up there.

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Joseph:

Could be true ! Thanks !

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Congress has passed a series of laws that allow easy access to guns and restrict law enforcement’s ability to go after traffickers. Three policies in particular impede law enforcement’s ability to prosecute traffickers:
•Keeping crime gun trace information secret: Until 2002, the ATF released aggregate crime gun trace reports to local police departments, researchers, policymakers and public safety advocates. The reports revealed for the first time that 1.2% of federally licensed gun dealers supply 57% of the guns used in crime. But, bowing to pressure from the gun lobby, Congress voted to restrict police access to crime gun trace data and cut off public access altogether. These restrictions, known as the Tiahrt Amendments (named for the Kansas Congressman who sponsored the bill), have passed in every Department of Justice budget since 2003, despite the fact that prominent law enforcement associations oppose them as a serious threat to public safety.
•Handcuffing the ATF: The ATF, the sole government agency charged with enforcing federal gun laws, has operated without a permanent director since the Bush Administration, and operates with just 1,800 agents to monitor approximately 77,000 gun dealers. Given these constraints, it would take ATF 22 years to inspect all federally licensed gun dealers. Even if the ATF had the manpower to inspect most gun dealers, federal law limits the agency to a single unannounced inspection of a dealer in any 12-month period. Congress has made it increasingly difficult for the ATF to revoke licenses of crooked gun dealers.
•An absence of records: It is impossible for law enforcement to know the whereabouts of millions of firearms in circulation today because Federal law explicitly bars the ATF from establishing a database of retail firearms sales, and private gun sellers are not required to keep a paper trail of transactions. Prior to 2001, federal authorities maintained criminal background check records for up to six months. Under President Bush, Attorney General John Ashcroft reversed this policy and ordered the destruction of all criminal background check records within 24 hours. Even though the General Accounting Office found that destroying these records endangers public safety, the policy remains in effect.

MiltonMan forget to tell us that Bush and Ashcroft were libs! Them libs and their guns!

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JKL2-actually you are one of the delusional voters I am annoyed that gets to vote. I include but not limited to Mighty Righty, Joseph, 0311, etc.

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Obama’s got so much on his plate…. You know like playing golf and campaigning…

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/jay-carneys-actual-response-to-jobs-council-not-meeting-obama-has-a-lot-on-his-plate/

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“NRA teaches common sense and safety with weaponry.”

And the Klan teaches how to do laundry. Rambo is a factious character like Santa Claus, sorry to burst you bubble.

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luangtom :

Thank you.

Vigilance !

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“But of course if one of those people inside the building had just been armed…. ”

Maybe ………… better than nothing.

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Keep Up the Good Fight:

You know I assume that the military issues pistols as a last defense against someone with an AK-47.

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It’s hard for Jay and his lefty friends to appreciate freedom. Bookman has never cared about liberty or freedom, only government control. When those of us who don’t like the rising level of government control buy guns, it never occurs to Jay to solve the problem, only to regulate the response. Pretty soon life will come with a ten thousand page rule book that Jay and the democrats draft to keep the rest of us in line. It’s what collectivists have always done when actual people don’t properly appreciate the “workers paradise” that the elites have created for them.
To Jay, there are no problems that more rules can’t fix.
No thanks Jay. I don’t want to live in your worker’s utopian hell hole.

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Joseph

July 19th, 2012
9:24 am

I figured you would like that. Send all those guns to Mexico, let them kill bunches of Mexicans and then there would be less illegals coming over our borders for you to worry about…

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0311 — “Joe Hussein Mama: Nixon did some stupid things as we all know. ”

Right. For example, he set up the Department of Energy. Maybe you should look into the crap you post, rather than being so credulous.

“That doesn’t change the fact that once a bureaucracy is established ………. it becomes entrenched !!!”

You know, if you hadn’t just ranted about the DOE and Carter and ZOMGDADGUMLIBRULSINMAHGUBMINT, I might be willing to meet you halfway in this discussion. But when I pointed out that it was Nixon, not Carter, who largely SET UP the DoE, off you go with the handwaving and dismissing.

If the DoE was such a crappy thing, then SHARPEN YOUR AIM and BLAME THE RIGHT GUY.

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Well ……….. this deserve another post:

A: Guns have only two enemies – rust and liberal Democrats.

B: It’s always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

C: Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.

D: Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arms length.

E: Never say “I’ve got a gun.” If you need to use deadly force, the first (and last) sound they hear should be “boom, boom” (double tap always).

F: The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes, the response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.

G: The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win – cheat if necessary.

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I guess you didn’t head about the anti-gun thing Hilary is going to sign with the UN?

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Joe Hussein Mama:

I have a great idea. Quit reading my posts.

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Jefferson – All handgun owners are paranoid.

Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean everyone isn’t after you

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0311 — “A: Guns have only two enemies – rust and liberal Democrats.”

I’ll ask again, since my previous query went unanswered by the first asserter. What makes you think libs don’t own firearms?

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Guns are for guys with little pee pee disorder..

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Well, these gun dealers won’t get no profits from me. I’ll stick with my two machine guns and the antitank weapon I use for hunting and self-defense, thank you. No need to get all fancy to get the job done.

Have a good Thursday everybody.

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ultimate hypocrite face of the left…… This mental giant Rosie O’donnell going around complaining about gun control………and you guessed it, her body guard ( to protect her food I guess) is packing……….Same thinking as Al Gore screaming carbon footprint while flying alone everywhere in a PRIVATE JET and Leaving his Limo running for an hour while he gives a speech on the subject. You gotta watch something besides MSNBC to see this hypocrisy.

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0311 — “Joe Hussein Mama: I have a great idea. Quit reading my posts.”

I have a better idea. Quit posting demonstrably misleading garbage.

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“What makes you think libs don’t own firearms?”

Well ………………. they shouldn’t.

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“I have a better idea. Quit posting demonstrably misleading garbage.”

See my 10:08

He owns it !

P.S.

Quit reading my posts !!!

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Cut defense spending in half and we still outspend every other country including China. For what? Jackwagons..

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Well ………………. they shouldn’t.

because they’ll walk into churches in the heartland and blow away, say, a guy who was ushering at a service, or people watching elementary-school-age children performing a song?

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Conservatives shouldn’t be allowed to rent Ryder trucks, or buy fertilizer, either. For the record.

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NRA really stands for National Regurgitation Association

I thought it was “National Reach-around Association”, but it turned out they lied about that, too.

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Joe Hussein Mama:

Just spreadin the news…. LOL…

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“If I were to select a jack-booted group of fascists who were perhaps as large a danger to American society as I could pick today, I would pick [the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives]. They are a shame and a disgrace to our country.” – NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre

That darned lib, La Pierre! How could he!

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0311 — “Well ………………. they shouldn’t.”

Why not?

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Headline: “Jordan king warns Syria on the brink of civil war”

I aske this last night. When do we want the King of Jordan taken down and replaced by radical Islamists ??

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/syria-brink-civil-war-jordanian-king-213636899.html

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These cons think god ttells them to invade other countries and kill women and childern. Just like the terrorists.

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0311 — “See my 10:08″

Did. Don’t care.

“He owns it !”

So you say. Why don’t you actually do some reading about how the DoE got set up, as opposed to just cutting and pasting stuff you don’t understand?

“P.S. Quit reading my posts !!!”

No.

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JoeH why would 0311 want to blame a Republican?

That would be so unlike him. He did exactly what he wanted to do. Frame it around Democrats and Carter.

Truth was never in the equation.

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you think libs don’t have guns?

good, you keep thinkin that, heheh

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“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” Sure is a lot shame going around out there.

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Joe @ 10:14 #1 Disagree.

Joe @ 10:14 #2 Satire. Don’t be so serious.

P.S. Quit reading my posts.

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0311@ 10:04: Add

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

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Honest question. Why would anyone who has a job and pays taxes vote for a democrat?

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We don’t call 911

I’m sure that just terrifies an experienced B&E practitioner..

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Bumper Sticker:

Build your own business Mr. President !

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godless heathen @ 10:18

Good one.

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“P.S. Quit reading my posts.”

No.”

PLEASE !!!

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0311 — “PLEASE !!!”

No, thank you.

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Godless Heathen…….. smart people don’t need to carry a cop. We carry a box of hot Krispy Kremes and the cops follow us……..

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Woodstock, the majority of Democrats are terrified of guns, however, there are exceptions like St. Simons who have rational views regarding guns and gun ownership by responsible law abiding citizens.

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Hey I gotta another (con) idea for the NRA…start a chain of low-cost shooting ranges – hell, maybe even franchise em like yogurt stands – with volume discounts for ammo used that day. Pretty soon folks will have, as they say, shot their wad and have to restock for the day when ‘them Libs’ start trying to git them guns…see? Actually maybeeven a better idea would be for the fishing version of the NRA ought to start a campaign claiming that concerns about the dangers of contaminated fish will result in rods, reels and fast-a$$ boats being confiscated by the next non-fish eating President…now that ought to spur the economy.

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Breaking –

Ann Romney: ‘We’ve Given All You (Little)People Need To Know’ About
Family Finances

I added the ‘Little’, but you can just hear that in her condescension
can’t you…

still say I’ll be shocked if he’s their final nominee

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According to MiltonMan “logic”, Sandy Abrams is a lib. Who would have ever guessed.

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the majority of Democrats are terrified of guns

And here’s the source for this info.

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Joe Hussein Mama:

Are taxes the only thing that matter to you when choosing a candidate to support?

Of course not… I take into consideration many issue’s. Social issue’s are very important to me….

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Woodstock Mike

July 19th, 2012
10:24 am

Watching Democrats try to defend Obama’s comments this week on business owners is truly hilarious!!

When they can’t even admit that those comments were terrible and completely a mistake it really shows how deep in denial they are…
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Now THERE was a perfect example of posting Neal Boortz’s show as soon as he went to break.

Yo Mikeyt, I’m streaming Boortz on my computer, I don;t need the retarded version of what he just said, but thanks for trying.

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Darned libs need to stop selling guns to criminals!

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the cat, duh!

Tell me one substantive policy that he has not?

The man is a walking, talking fraud. A total sellout. A joke. A really, really bad one that is the punch line for the worst comedian in the history of the genre – Dennis Miller.

And these equally unprincipled frauds who will vote for him deserve him as a candidate.

It is perfectly apropos…

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What are you saying Scout/ We should invade Syria and FORCE them to become our 51st state? I know that’s the Republican way, but it’s not the AMERICAN way.

Sounds more like something the German would have done back in the 1930’s and 40’s………

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Fred, for Obama, it would be #58…………..His words.

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Joseph 10:19
Why would anyone in the financial industry who avoids paying taxes vote for a Democrat?

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Funny how Dennis Miller was hip and cool to libs on SNL …….until he wised up and grew up.

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Yo Jamvet? Did you see that a band calling themselves The Who is going to tour and has a show date in Atlanta?

I’ve seen The Who multiple times and I’ve seen this band that now calls themselves The Who. All I can say is………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE

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Hey WoodstockMike…are you really that stupid or do you just think we are? If you listen to Obama’s ‘entire’ comment…the one that wasn’t ’selectively’ edited…and can’t understand what was meant, then Cherokee County needs to overhaul how their teaching English and you need to stop skinnin your ignorance…or is it just prejudice?

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the cat………….no, I have family and friends that are libs……And I would fight along side of you to defend your right to have your say……I know you would do the same for me………right?

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JKL — “You’re a racist if you don’t vote for the black man.”

I don’t think anyone here has said or thought such a thing, but thank you foor bringing that out into the light. It helps to present a good contrast between conservatives and liberals.

Speaking of racism, are there going to be any Romney campaign ads that depict the President with a bone through his nose, or are y’all just going to keep that stuff to e-mail messages like you did before?

http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/conservatives-circulate-picture-obama

“Don’t forget, if you’re successful, thank your congressman be cause you had nothing to do with it.”

Good thing no one actually said or thought anything like that.

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the 2nd amendment! It was placed in the Constitution as a barrier to the formation of a tyrant central government!

I guess this is an example of “liberal indoctrination in the government schools” I’ve been hearing so much about.

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Next, use by dates on bullets…..

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let’s turn the voting thing around. If one of you Libs was talking to a friend or co-worker who was an opened minded conservative, what talking points would you use to switch and vote for Obama?

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I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not

July 19th, 2012
10:43 am
let’s turn the voting thing around. If one of you Libs was talking to a friend or co-worker who was an opened minded conservative, what talking points would you use to switch and vote for Obama?

They don’t exist.

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Just as I figured…. You fruits have no answer… Even Jay really don’t know….

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“I’ll leave for a while and let you libs fester in your thoughts.. LOL…”

Translation: They just called all baggers to the front at the local Kroger

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if you invades our island mon, we weel pelt you wit shrimp & grits
and assorted beach souvenirs

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Ima Liberal — “let’s turn the voting thing around. If one of you Libs was talking to a friend or co-worker who was an opened minded conservative, what talking points would you use to switch and vote for Obama?”

Try turning it around on *yourself.* What talking points would you use to try to convince an open-minded liberal friend or associate to vote for Romney?

Go ahead and try it on me. I voted Republican for over 20 years, so your points have as good a chance of getting traction on me as on anyone.

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Consider this, if you will, Mr. Bookman.

Your side represents left wing kooks, elitists, geeks, academics, pacifists, and sissies afraid of guns. I’m sure I will get a reaction from your litte sharks, but it is what it is.

After your group hijacked this country via misinformation and low class propaganda in the last election, the pragmatic majority bought weapons and ammo as a knee-jerk reaction to what happened. Your liberal bunch in the Democrat Party has tried gun control for decades, but has failed. To a limited effect you all were successful in the sordid Clinton regime of banning magazines over the 10 round capacity and assault rifles. This liberal law was finally sun-setted in the Bush years.

Hillary Clinton has endorsed the UN’s proposal for gun control and we are quite aware of your intentions to levy a gun control law if the time is right for your success.

That time would be right if Obama was to be elected for 4 more years and the Senate and House would gain more Democrats. Since Obama would not have to worry about reelection, he and his troop of liberals would seize the moment with gun control.

We are hardly suckers, chump. We are pragmatists who know full well how you kooks think.

Besides, all this weapons and ammo selling is good for American business. Something that liberals know nothing about. This economy run by the contraints of Democrat government control is proof in the pudding.

This silly little essay of yours this morning only makes sense to your dedicated chior, preacher.

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“and sissies afraid of guns.”

Well you may not be afraid of guns, but not sure we can say you are not a ____________

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JKL — “ROFLMFAO!!! (LAUGHING AND POINTING AT YOU)”

Laugh and point all you want. Then, when you’re done, actually *prove* your claim that someone here’s said that. I’ll be waiting.

“Never seen that before.”

Lots of people did; the conservative activist who was busted mailing it couldn’t disavow it quickly enough once he was outed.

“Thanks for posting. Good to see you kept it on your desktop.”

Of course. One needs to bear in mind what conservatives are capable of.

“Is that something like your liberal friends publish? http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=bush+with+hitler+mustache&qpvt=bush+with+hitler+mustache&FORM=IGRE”

Nope, it’s something a conservative political activist was caught sending out.

“except the president…”

Except he didn’t. Conservative commentators have been misrepresenting what the President *actually* said all week long. It’s kinda like when y’all claim that the SCOTUS said the ACA was a tax — except for the fact that they never said any such thing.

If you’re going to post at me, you’d better be sharp on the details, JKL, And that’s because your conservative friends very often are *not.*

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Man, it has been a long time since I’ve been out and out name jacked.

I must be doing something right, if these cons are becoming that unhinged.

This promises to be a grueling summer and autumn for them.

Get lots of popcorn ready!

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These Obama political adds attacking Romeny for not releasing 10 years of tax returns are pathetic!!

How many years has Obama produced? Has any president in the history of our country produced 10 years of tax returns? Nope

Why didn’t Democrats want to see John Kerry and his wife’s tax returns? They are much wealthier than Mitt Romney. Interesting…

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My advice is to buy guns, ammo and stock up on food if the gop win.

It will be a total collapse.

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JKL — “Nice dodge. you’ve asked alot of questions but still haven’t given a single answer.”

Punkin, you’re lucky I even speak to you, as clueless and nasty as you are.

If you want an answer, then you can be polite. If you want to continue being a jackass, I can oblige with that, too.

“Are you sure you don’t work for the DNC?”

Yes. I’m actually the National Director of the DNC. And I have a bridge to sell you in the middle of a swamp.

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Mitt Romney, along with most wealthy people in America including Republicans and Democrats paid what he was suppposed to pay. What don’t Democrats get about that? Pathetic…

Do rich Democrats pay more income taxes than rich Republicans? LOL

What’s funny is some idiots probably think they do…

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romney’s wife said they have shown all they will show you little people.

It is obvious the romney’s are guilty of a crime.

Lets just go ahead and call them the robme cartel.

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Anyone that thinks lib don’t have guns haven’t been to quickshot on date nite

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Jam,

Reminds me of the old blog but the wanker will be banned.

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Jam Vet….about the Who…..if you have a local theater that shows Fathom Productions, the Who will be shown in theater, performing the original Quadro from 1973, on July 24. Google Fathom Productions and find a theater near you showing it. I hope to make it.

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Jay, since I have been visiting your blog I have learned a thing or two from you, mostly about economics, plus I can see where you most often do your homework before writing be it sometimes skewed by your idiology. But on this matter, you are all wrong.

The only, and I mean only reason there has not been changes in gun ownership is the grass roots up opposition that Obama cannot overcome. There may not be that many court decisions, etc, but there has been sufficient other Constitutional rights cases that he can see this one is unwinnable – except

If somehow Obama can get the UN Arms treaty approved by the Senate, he will at least partially accmplish some of his goal. If this was not the case, the US would not be participating in authoring the treaty.

I know the preface of the treaty references no conflict with our Second Amendment, but the preface is not the treaty.

There is absolutely no doubt that if Obama and the anti-gun portion of his base were to have their way, Americans would be stripped of most if not all their firearms.

Lastly, Obama is a Socialist. He is close to being a Marxist. If he had his way, he would be our last President. To take over a country, the first thing you do is take the weapons. There is a lot of history to suppport this theory. Call it tin foil hat. Call it what you will. But there are more people who believe it than there are hard Lefties. And no, I don’t have a link for all you doubters, but all you have to do is look to the Wisconsin recall results to see the power of the NRA and gun lobbies.

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joe mama- JKL — “Nice dodge. you’ve asked alot of questions but still haven’t given a single answer.” Punkin, you’re lucky I even speak to you, as clueless and nasty as you are. If you want an answer, then you can be polite. If you want to continue being a jackass, I can oblige with that, too

ROFL (laughing and pointing at you yet again)

Strike two. Care to dodge again?

If you can come you with names like punkin and jackass, I’m sure you can do better…

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Bumper sticker for police
firemen and emt

911 CALLS ME

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the cat – They don’t exist.

Speaking of open minded!….

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Cue the “Jay only bans cons” whine in 3….2….1

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the cat – I would ask a conservative how they are for the death penalty but against a woman’s choice. Not one person has been able to provide an answer.

I’m against both…call me a pro-lifer
Maybe you shouldn’t paint with such a broad brush

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I may be a sucker in your shriveled minds, but I’m an ARMED sucker.

I see many of you describe the NRA as “lunatics” and other non-flatterring terms, hiding behind your blog-post anonymity. Reminiscent of the character displayed by the “Love and Peace” crowd that would spit on soldiers returning from Vietnam.

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Funny how you all keep ignoring the UN small arms treaty Hillary is discussing with the UN which is the real driver behind all of this. And if you don’t believe Obama’s motive behind these negotiations is gun control he can’t get any other way, you are an idiot. As was pointed out earlier, liberals impose gun controls whenever they can. You aren’t fooling anybody with this “ha ha” garbage.

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The National Shooting Sports Foundation NSSF estimates the gun industry is responsible for approximately 180,000 jobs and has an annual impact on the U.S. economy of $28 billion.

Gun manufacturing is the one private-sector industry “doing fine” on Mr. Obama’s watch. Mr. Obama could honestly take credit for this jobs program, economic boost and the reduction in violent crime that has followed the spike in gun ownership on his watch. Instead, he’s silent about his greatest positive accomplishment.

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Dawg Dad-good grief-please prove any returning soldier was spit on. Are you that gullible, really?

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JKL — “I’ll let this guy try to explain it to you. I know it’s all a lie because his lips are moving, but since you believe everything he says, here goes:”

And since y’all insist on taking a small piece of what Obama *actually* said out of context, here’s how it REALLY went down. Read on, Champ:

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/romney-these-hands-ad-you-didnt-build-that.php

It’s a shame that conservatives can’t actually be honest about what others actually say and do.

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Anything to avoid talking about the Obama economy.

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Oscar – you need to do your own research on Obama. Don’t believe me. Don’t believe the Left. You will find there are too many pointers and logical explanations of what Obama says, does, and tries to do, to ignore the growing cry from the Right that Obama is not one of us.

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JKL — “ROFL (laughing and pointing at you yet again)”

Laugh all you want. Doesn’t change the fact that no one here said what you claimed they did. All your laughing won’t change the fact that you’re wrong.

“Strike two. Care to dodge again?”

Cowboy, you’ve given me nothing to dodge. You don’t even have an argument

You’ve made an unsupportable claim and haven’t even tried to support it. What’s to dodge? (pointing, laughing)

“If you can come you with names like punkin and jackass, I’m sure you can do better”

You’re not worth any additional effort, at least not until you actually come up with an argument.

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the cat- Most cons have death penalty inmates on a express lane and then refuse to allow a woman her own choice.

I think the real crime is keeping people on death row for years. I have no problem with choice, but am against the late term stuff. With modern technology, I think we should be able to save the fetis and get rid of it’s stupid incubator at that point.

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JohnnnyReb @11:09 — Son, you’re completely off the deep end.

If this is how you behave when confronted with a moderate Democrat, you’d fairly LIQUEFY if someone actually introduced you to an actual Marxist.

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Jay

Since you know what everyone is writing before they write it, you should have stopped him before he thought about posting

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Elephant — “Anything to avoid talking about the Obama economy.”

Wordpress and Blogspot await at your pleasure.

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I prefer Chris Rock’s plan:

I think we need some bullet control. I think every bullet should cost five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars for a bullet. Know why? Cos if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, there’d be no more innocent by-standers. That’d be it. Some guy’d be shot you’d be all ‘Dang, he must’ve done something, he’s got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in him!’ And people’d think before they shot someone ‘Man I will blow your head off, if I could afford it. I’m gonna get me a second job, start saving up, and you a dead man. You’d better hope I don’t get no bullets on lay-away!’ And even if you get shot you wouldn’t need to go to the emergency room. Whoever shot you’d take their bullet back. ‘I believe you got my property?’

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DawgDad — “I see many of you describe the NRA as “lunatics” and other non-flatterring terms, hiding behind your blog-post anonymity.”

So? What do you care? You plan to shoot us if you figure out who we are?

“Reminiscent of the character displayed by the “Love and Peace” crowd that would spit on soldiers returning from Vietnam.”

Except that there’s no documented evidence that such a thing ever happened.

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carlosgvv- Please state EXACTLY what Obama has done to make him a socialist

I’m guessing you didn’t read any of his books either…

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JKL — “Strike three. The dodging continues…”

Sonny, I’ve already rounded the bases twice on you. Let me know when you have an actual point to make.

“Still can’t come up with some obama love to share with the rest of us?”

You seem to be laboring under the misconception that I owe you some kind of answer to something.

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carlosgvv

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That is a popular argument. However, the Surpreme Court does not except it. Neither does the vast majority of Americians.
It’s not possible to say for sure what the authors of the Constition would think about citizens bearing arms in this day and age. I think they would still be in favor of it.
But trying to guess what they would now think is nothing but speculation.
They expected us to construct the kind of government we want now, that’t why they allowed for amendments to the constitution. Not to be governed by what we thought they would have wanted.

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Carlosgvv….your analysis of the 2nd admendment is BRILLIANT! I mean, how come NO ONE has ever brought this amazing fact before the Supreme Court to have the 2nd admendment overturned?

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V. Kint — “Carlosgvv….your analysis of the 2nd admendment is BRILLIANT! I mean, how come NO ONE has ever brought this amazing fact before the Supreme Court to have the 2nd admendment overturned?”

Because no one’s arguing to have it overturned.

The argument is over what it means and what it permits.

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The second ammendment authorizes a milita to keep and bear arms.

…in a cowardly, horribly written way. For the record.

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before the Supreme Court to have the 2nd admendment overturned?

it’s gonna be hard to beat that one on the ol’ negative IQ scale.

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“It does NOT authorize civilians not in the military or police to keep and bear arms”

And I disagree totally and completely. I think it does precisely that: authoriize citizens to keep and bear arms.

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JKL — “You said you would give a shot at answering why any business owner or tax payer would want to vote Democrat. So far you have asked a bunch of questions but have repeated dodged giving any type of answer.”

By your own logic, you have repeatedly dodged clarifying your question because you won’t respond to me. Get over yourself.

I’m not dodging your question. I’m trying to get at why — if you think there are multiple factors that go into selecting the person for whom *you* will vote — you would demand that Democrats only consider *one* factor. That’s what your original question asked.

You need to pay closer attention to detail, Punkin.

“Where’s the obama love?”

Where’s the vaunted conservative wisdom and sense of fair play? If you’re going to stack the deck with the question and refuse to clarify yourself, then why should I play in your ballpark? You said it was a serious question, and I said that I didn’t believe you. The way it’s turning out, I was exactly right — you weren’t serious at all.

“Feel free to give me the standard Democrat response of “You’re a racist”. I’m used to it by now…”

Oh, my dear country mouse. You don’t know me very well at ALL. (laughing)

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getalife-agreed. I loved the quote from the dad saying “We must worship different Gods”

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Where’s the vaunted conservative wisdom and sense of fair play?

Out frolicking with the unicorns in my backyard.

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How much does the NRA pay someone to Photoshop those cartoonish frowns on Preznit Uppity, by the way?

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It all makes sense, ridiculous sense. Trash education, create an underclass, keep it loyal by identifying a minority population to blame for their circumstance and,… then convince them the low paying jobs are caused by taxes on the boss —- wait. …and arm them?

Reminds one of the lyrics from Bob Dylan’s southern political ode:
“…A finger fired the trigger to his name
A handle hid out in the dark
A hand set the spark
Two eyes took the aim
Behind a man’s brain
But he can’t be blamed
He’s only a pawn in their game.”

“Only a Pawn in Their Game”

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We haven’t heard from the fast ‘n furious whistleblowers yet. Evidently the gun buyers have money to spend and are helping the economy. Smith and Wesson did not build that gun business. Somebody else did. Glock did not… ya know awready….Atlanta cop responding to complaints about crime on Tech campus said the police can not be everywhere at once. You are responsible for your own safety. Supreme court said same thing. Obama really needs to go home and do something about the blood bath in Chicago. He has not really instilled any sense of security, and seems to consider more and more of us enemies of the people.

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Bankster SHEETZ.

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joe mama- I’m not dodging your question. I’m trying to get at why — if you think there are multiple factors that go into selecting the person for whom *you* will vote — you would demand that Democrats only consider *one* factor

Strike four, dodging continues…

Who said you have to limit it to one factor? Your non-answer was to try and reverse the question. Typical of today’s DNC. Do nothing while complaining the Republicans have no ideas.

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-Where’s the vaunted conservative wisdom and sense of fair play?

It’s hard to see beneath all of obama’s mud slinging…

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Aqua girl, I assume that means you aren’t aware of the treaty. Maybe Google would be a good option to educate yourself before you post on the subject again??

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The ACA outlaws pre-existing conditions. Romney and the GOP by supporting repeal rather than amend would leave people out in the cold. If you or someone in your family had cancer, they would understand the importance of this and have no reason to support those that offer no solutions, just talk.

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Maybe Google would be a good option to educate yourself before you post on the subject again??

I did. BTW, googling brings up every bat$#!^ crazy message board, so I generally check snopes, which debunks the crazy. Of course cons hate snopes just for that reason, so I’m sure you would rather accept your bat$#!^ crazy sources based on whatever google craps out.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp

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The DOE was established in Aug, 1977. If I am not mistaken, Jimmy Carter was the POTUS.
Side note, during his one term, he made The Dept Of Energy and the Dept of Education, cabinets levels jobs.

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That pesky Second Amendment. What a bummer.

When can we get another one of your hilarious global warming posts, Jay?

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Hahahaha! I remember when Georgia was considered the South. Now you’ve got Yankee liberals writing for your papers!

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Everyone knows President Obama is pro gun control. Now with the Colorado movie massacre he must use his bully pulpit and seize this opportunity to lead the nation to become gun free!

Some gun nut states will vote against him but President Obama has a moral imperative to do what’s right. Even if he loses his election he’s won the argument.

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