NRA, gun industry once again mine profit from paranoia
In the health-care debate, we’ve all watched as the proudest single accomplishment of a self-described “severely conservative” Republican governor has somehow been transformed into proof of Marxist intent once that same plan was adopted by a Democratic president.
It’s political alchemy at its best. In fact, as testimony to the power of propaganda, that one’s hard to beat. It reminds us that if people really want to believe something — even something manifestly ridiculous, illogical and countermanded by facts — they will still find a way to do so.
But this example of that same phenomenon comes in a close second:
“Gun sales are soaring nationwide and retailers say that’s not unusual to see during a presidential election year. “Basically the situation you have now is 2008 all over again,” said Steven B. Drew, owner of Georgia Gun and Loan.
Analysts say the 2008 spike came from fear that new gun control legislation would make it more difficult to acquire firearms. “People were uncertain what the new president and the new administration was going to do so there tends to be a upsurge in fire arm sales in general,” said Drew.
Now, they are seeing it all over again. “A lot of people got guns and they certainly don’t want to be without ammo. If they think they are going to cut back on the ammunition they are going to stock pile it so they wont be out,” said Jackie Sizemore, the owner of Backwoods Outdoors.
Sizemore says his store has been busy. He’s constantly having to re-order guns and ammo to keep supplies on the shelves. “You’ll be out of a lot of goods, people will be waiting on a lot of stuff ,” he said.
Weapons like pistols and tactical weapons like AR-15s.
“Those are what you will find on the chopping block first they will do away with tactical type guns like that and high capacity magazines stuff like that,”he said.
In fact, Sizemore says he can barely keep AR-15s on the shelf. “Everybody will be out of AR 15s. You won’t be able to find them anywhere,” he said.
A screen-grab from the NRA's "gunbanobama.com" website.
As I’ve noted earlier, we’ve been through this before. During the 2008 campaign, Wayne LaPierre and the NRA warned gun owners that Barack Obama had a 10-point plan to confiscate all of their guns and ammunition.
Point One was supposed to be a federal ban on the use of guns for home defense. Point Three was a ban on the sale, manufacture and possession of handguns. Point Four was the closure of 90 percent of American gunshops. Federal taxes on guns and ammunition were supposed to go up 500 percent, and the sale of ammunition for hunting rifles was supposed to be banned altogether.
And of course, none of that ever happened. It was all tinfoil-hat stuff, manufactured to part the gullible from their money, and it worked spectacularly well. Based on a completely fabricated threat, the NRA and its sponsors in the gun industry terrified the suckers into buying huge quantities of the gun industry’s products. Ka-ching!
Now, you might think that people who get fooled so badly would learn a lesson from that humiliation. They might get wary of those who had played them for dummies. But once again, such thinking fails to account for the fact that sometimes people just want to be fooled, and if people want to be played for suckers there is no way on earth to help them.
Consider, if you will, LaPierre’s explanation for why that 10-point plan was never implemented. He now argues that the fact that Obama has done nothing regarding gun control — the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence has even given Obama an “F” rating — in fact proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he’s a sinister gun-grabber.
And yes, that is actually the argument that they are using. And yes, that is the argument that is driving gun owners into the stores to buy still more guns. Like people lining up for a rollercoaster ride, they are scared because they want to be scared and, I suspect, even enjoy it at some level.
And the people scaring them are chuckling all the way to the bank.
– Jay Bookman
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Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
10:40 am
SfD — “I guess this is an example of “liberal indoctrination in the government schools” I’ve been hearing so much about.”
(sound of Daffy Duck hooting in the distance)
Jefferson
July 19th, 2012
10:42 am
Next, use by dates on bullets…..
JamVet
July 19th, 2012
10:43 am
Funny how Dennis Miller was hip and cool to libs on SNL
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
He always sucked. As has that show for more than 30 years.
The Who are coming to Atlanta, Fred?!
Oh rapture! Oh joy!
I’ve seen them twice here; once in 1989. Legendary, epic, stellar. I was hoarse for three days.
And again a few years back with the Pretenders opening for them. Much less raucous but still enormously satisfying.
For me, in any iteration, Pete and Roger are a can’t miss proposition. And I just saw at their website that they will playing Quadrophenia!
Thanks for the heads up!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzLky4U-xCg
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
July 19th, 2012
10:43 am
let’s turn the voting thing around. If one of you Libs was talking to a friend or co-worker who was an opened minded conservative, what talking points would you use to switch and vote for Obama?
MiltonMan
July 19th, 2012
10:44 am
…and even more reason why Obozo needs to go after Mittie even harder vs. convincing the US that Obozo & his record is what America truly needs.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/48239619
the cat
July 19th, 2012
10:45 am
I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not
July 19th, 2012
10:43 am
let’s turn the voting thing around. If one of you Libs was talking to a friend or co-worker who was an opened minded conservative, what talking points would you use to switch and vote for Obama?
They don’t exist.
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
10:46 am
joe mama- I don’t think anyone here has said or thought such a thing
ROFLMFAO!!! (LAUGHING AND POINTING AT YOU)
-Speaking of racism, are there going to be any Romney campaign ads that depict the President with a bone through his nose, or are y’all just going to keep that stuff to e-mail messages like you did before?
Never seen that before. Thanks for posting. Good to see you kept it on your desktop. Is that something like your liberal friends publish? http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=bush+with+hitler+mustache&qpvt=bush+with+hitler+mustache&FORM=IGRE
-Good thing no one actually said or thought anything like that.
except the president…
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
10:47 am
Just as I figured…. You fruits have no answer… Even Jay really don’t know….
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
10:47 am
I’ll leave for a while and let you libs fester in your thoughts.. LOL…
You don't say
July 19th, 2012
10:49 am
“I’ll leave for a while and let you libs fester in your thoughts.. LOL…”
Translation: They just called all baggers to the front at the local Kroger
JamVet
July 19th, 2012
10:49 am
an opened minded conservative
They don’t exist.
Hysterical.
I’m not sure because of the obvious paradox or because this gawdawful, diseased GOP has killed, deader than a doornail, actual American conservatism – historically based on intellect, logic, pragmatism and statesmanship – and to that extent, you are right – they do not exist.
St Simons
July 19th, 2012
10:49 am
if you invades our island mon, we weel pelt you wit shrimp & grits
and assorted beach souvenirs
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
10:51 am
What the dems are saying I’m sorry Mrs. Romney… LOL… Too late…
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/dnc-regrets-offending-ann-romney-no-more-horse-ads/
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
10:52 am
Ima Liberal — “let’s turn the voting thing around. If one of you Libs was talking to a friend or co-worker who was an opened minded conservative, what talking points would you use to switch and vote for Obama?”
Try turning it around on *yourself.* What talking points would you use to try to convince an open-minded liberal friend or associate to vote for Romney?
Go ahead and try it on me. I voted Republican for over 20 years, so your points have as good a chance of getting traction on me as on anyone.
Proud to be me
July 19th, 2012
10:52 am
Does anyone really think having stricter gun control will keep guns out of kids’ possession? Really! It is no secret Jay that the left would love to have stricter gun control so basically you are saying much that could also apply to the left, i.e., “In fact, as testimony to the power of propaganda, that one’s hard to beat. It reminds us that if people really want to believe something — even something manifestly ridiculous, illogical and countermanded by facts — they will still find a way to do so.” A statement that can also be made about the left!!! All this about the rich not paying their “fair” share . . all this about ObamaCare and if you like you health insurance, you’ll be able to keep it!!
Donovan
July 19th, 2012
10:53 am
Consider this, if you will, Mr. Bookman.
Your side represents left wing kooks, elitists, geeks, academics, pacifists, and sissies afraid of guns. I’m sure I will get a reaction from your litte sharks, but it is what it is.
After your group hijacked this country via misinformation and low class propaganda in the last election, the pragmatic majority bought weapons and ammo as a knee-jerk reaction to what happened. Your liberal bunch in the Democrat Party has tried gun control for decades, but has failed. To a limited effect you all were successful in the sordid Clinton regime of banning magazines over the 10 round capacity and assault rifles. This liberal law was finally sun-setted in the Bush years.
Hillary Clinton has endorsed the UN’s proposal for gun control and we are quite aware of your intentions to levy a gun control law if the time is right for your success.
That time would be right if Obama was to be elected for 4 more years and the Senate and House would gain more Democrats. Since Obama would not have to worry about reelection, he and his troop of liberals would seize the moment with gun control.
We are hardly suckers, chump. We are pragmatists who know full well how you kooks think.
Besides, all this weapons and ammo selling is good for American business. Something that liberals know nothing about. This economy run by the contraints of Democrat government control is proof in the pudding.
This silly little essay of yours this morning only makes sense to your dedicated chior, preacher.
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
10:54 am
Wow Oblama and Holder are muzzling employee’s.. What are they hiding???
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/19/lawmakers-ominous-video-warning-to-atf-whistleblowers-after-furious/
You don't say
July 19th, 2012
10:55 am
“and sissies afraid of guns.”
Well you may not be afraid of guns, but not sure we can say you are not a ____________
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 19th, 2012
10:57 am
One comment and then I must leave but I will check back and would love to continue on this later this evening:
Every dangerous item or issue known to affect children is handled by the government schools (lectures on safety) from how to cross the street, to poisons, to child abuse, to STD’s, etc., etc., etc. ………………… EXCEPT gun safety.
Why?
Everyone be nice.
You too Joe.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
10:57 am
JKL — “ROFLMFAO!!! (LAUGHING AND POINTING AT YOU)”
Laugh and point all you want. Then, when you’re done, actually *prove* your claim that someone here’s said that. I’ll be waiting.
“Never seen that before.”
Lots of people did; the conservative activist who was busted mailing it couldn’t disavow it quickly enough once he was outed.
“Thanks for posting. Good to see you kept it on your desktop.”
Of course. One needs to bear in mind what conservatives are capable of.
“Is that something like your liberal friends publish? http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=bush+with+hitler+mustache&qpvt=bush+with+hitler+mustache&FORM=IGRE”
Nope, it’s something a conservative political activist was caught sending out.
“except the president…”
Except he didn’t. Conservative commentators have been misrepresenting what the President *actually* said all week long. It’s kinda like when y’all claim that the SCOTUS said the ACA was a tax — except for the fact that they never said any such thing.
If you’re going to post at me, you’d better be sharp on the details, JKL, And that’s because your conservative friends very often are *not.*
the cat
July 19th, 2012
10:58 am
I remember that Ann Romoney’s horse got them a $71K tax deduction. Explain that again.
So sorry about her hurt feelings, NOT.
JamVet
July 19th, 2012
10:58 am
Man, it has been a long time since I’ve been out and out name jacked.
I must be doing something right, if these cons are becoming that unhinged.
This promises to be a grueling summer and autumn for them.
Get lots of popcorn ready!
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
10:59 am
joe mama- Go ahead and try it on me. I voted Republican for over 20 years, so your points have as good a chance of getting traction on me as on anyone.
Nice dodge. you’ve asked alot of questions but still haven’t given a single answer.
Are you sure you don’t work for the DNC?
Woodstock Mike
July 19th, 2012
11:00 am
These Obama political adds attacking Romeny for not releasing 10 years of tax returns are pathetic!!
How many years has Obama produced? Has any president in the history of our country produced 10 years of tax returns? Nope
Why didn’t Democrats want to see John Kerry and his wife’s tax returns? They are much wealthier than Mitt Romney. Interesting…
You don't say
July 19th, 2012
11:00 am
Expel the name jackers
getalife
July 19th, 2012
11:00 am
My advice is to buy guns, ammo and stock up on food if the gop win.
It will be a total collapse.
You don't say
July 19th, 2012
11:01 am
Woodstock
Teresa Heniz Kerry ran for POTUS.
When?
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
11:02 am
JKL — “Nice dodge. you’ve asked alot of questions but still haven’t given a single answer.”
Punkin, you’re lucky I even speak to you, as clueless and nasty as you are.
If you want an answer, then you can be polite. If you want to continue being a jackass, I can oblige with that, too.
“Are you sure you don’t work for the DNC?”
Yes. I’m actually the National Director of the DNC. And I have a bridge to sell you in the middle of a swamp.
BADAss BING
July 19th, 2012
11:02 am
Guns don’t kill people…..the Attorney General does.
Woodstock Mike
July 19th, 2012
11:02 am
Mitt Romney, along with most wealthy people in America including Republicans and Democrats paid what he was suppposed to pay. What don’t Democrats get about that? Pathetic…
Do rich Democrats pay more income taxes than rich Republicans? LOL
What’s funny is some idiots probably think they do…
You don't say
July 19th, 2012
11:02 am
what exactly were you saying Mike? It is usually bs, so come again
Adding to my previous post, another false excuse Mr. Romney is using to avoid releasing his tax returns is that John Kerry had only released two years of returns in 2004. This is not true. As in “pants on fire” false. John Kerry released his tax returns every time he ran for Massachusetts Senator. By the time he ran for President, he had already released 20 years worth of returns. As former Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney should know this for a fact.
getalife
July 19th, 2012
11:03 am
romney’s wife said they have shown all they will show you little people.
It is obvious the romney’s are guilty of a crime.
Lets just go ahead and call them the robme cartel.
the cat
July 19th, 2012
11:03 am
I would ask a conservative how they are for the death penalty but against a woman’s choice. Not one person has been able to provide an answer.
FrankLeeDarling
July 19th, 2012
11:04 am
Anyone that thinks lib don’t have guns haven’t been to quickshot on date nite
JamVet
July 19th, 2012
11:04 am
BING, I like the new moniker.
OK, off to pay for the plutocracy.
Business has picked up considerably and yes, I am unreservedly of the opinion that I am better off than I was four years ago. In every way.
Toodles, Mitt fans…
getalife
July 19th, 2012
11:05 am
Jam,
Reminds me of the old blog but the wanker will be banned.
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
11:07 am
joe mama- Except he didn’t.Conservative commentators have been misrepresenting what the President *actually* said all week long.
I’ll let this guy try to explain it to you. I know it’s all a lie because his lips are moving, but since you believe everything he says, here goes: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/obama-in-roanoke-if-youve-got-a-business-you-didnt-build-that-somebody-else-made-that-happen-video/
BADAss BING
July 19th, 2012
11:08 am
Jam Vet….about the Who…..if you have a local theater that shows Fathom Productions, the Who will be shown in theater, performing the original Quadro from 1973, on July 24. Google Fathom Productions and find a theater near you showing it. I hope to make it.
You don't say
July 19th, 2012
11:09 am
Woodstock Mike
psst: let you in on a little secret
Just because you heard it on talk radio, doesn’t make it true.
Might want to do a little fact finding before posting. Probably save you from being so void of facts when you post
Good day
JohnnyReb
July 19th, 2012
11:09 am
Jay, since I have been visiting your blog I have learned a thing or two from you, mostly about economics, plus I can see where you most often do your homework before writing be it sometimes skewed by your idiology. But on this matter, you are all wrong.
The only, and I mean only reason there has not been changes in gun ownership is the grass roots up opposition that Obama cannot overcome. There may not be that many court decisions, etc, but there has been sufficient other Constitutional rights cases that he can see this one is unwinnable – except
If somehow Obama can get the UN Arms treaty approved by the Senate, he will at least partially accmplish some of his goal. If this was not the case, the US would not be participating in authoring the treaty.
I know the preface of the treaty references no conflict with our Second Amendment, but the preface is not the treaty.
There is absolutely no doubt that if Obama and the anti-gun portion of his base were to have their way, Americans would be stripped of most if not all their firearms.
Lastly, Obama is a Socialist. He is close to being a Marxist. If he had his way, he would be our last President. To take over a country, the first thing you do is take the weapons. There is a lot of history to suppport this theory. Call it tin foil hat. Call it what you will. But there are more people who believe it than there are hard Lefties. And no, I don’t have a link for all you doubters, but all you have to do is look to the Wisconsin recall results to see the power of the NRA and gun lobbies.
larry
July 19th, 2012
11:09 am
I am not in favor or banning most guns but i am in favor of putting back the ban on assult rifles .Those things usually mean trouble.
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
11:10 am
joe mama- JKL — “Nice dodge. you’ve asked alot of questions but still haven’t given a single answer.” Punkin, you’re lucky I even speak to you, as clueless and nasty as you are. If you want an answer, then you can be polite. If you want to continue being a jackass, I can oblige with that, too
ROFL (laughing and pointing at you yet again)
Strike two. Care to dodge again?
If you can come you with names like punkin and jackass, I’m sure you can do better…
Ahem
July 19th, 2012
11:12 am
Now, you might think that people who get fooled so badly would learn a lesson from that humiliation. They might get wary of those who had played them for dummies. But once again, such thinking fails to account for the fact that sometimes people just want to be fooled, and if people want to be played for suckers there is no way on earth to help them.
The above paragraph was clearly intended to be included in a piece about Obama supporters.
barking frog
July 19th, 2012
11:14 am
Bumper sticker for police
firemen and emt
911 CALLS ME
the cat
July 19th, 2012
11:14 am
Isn’t it convenient (in the church lady voice) that now Dirty Deal says the 400 tolls will go away next year? Too late gubner!
Jay
July 19th, 2012
11:15 am
The person who namejacked Jamvet has been posting here quite a while, most recently under “I’m a liberal….”, and thus should know the rules against namejacking as well as the penalty.
He is banned at least until my return in early August.
getalife
July 19th, 2012
11:15 am
The right has zero credibility but you can’t depend on government to save you if the gop win and collapse our economy again.
Erwin's cat
July 19th, 2012
11:16 am
the cat – They don’t exist.
Speaking of open minded!….
Ahem
July 19th, 2012
11:18 am
Anybody notice all the bad economic/jobs news out today. Obama will be replaced.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 19th, 2012
11:18 am
Cue the “Jay only bans cons” whine in 3….2….1
Oscar
July 19th, 2012
11:19 am
JohnnyReb
July 19th, 2012
11:09 am
Lastly, Obama is a Socialist. He is close to being a Marxist. If he had his way, he would be our last President.
____________
Where in the world did you come up with that bit of nonsense. I think you have now completlely fell off the wagon for good.
Erwin's cat
July 19th, 2012
11:19 am
the cat – I would ask a conservative how they are for the death penalty but against a woman’s choice. Not one person has been able to provide an answer.
I’m against both…call me a pro-lifer
Maybe you shouldn’t paint with such a broad brush
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
11:20 am
getalife- you can’t depend on government to save you
I would be careful if I were you. Eric Holder put you on the terrorist watch list with that one.
Hopefully OWS won’t find where you live and start protesting.
DawgDad
July 19th, 2012
11:20 am
I may be a sucker in your shriveled minds, but I’m an ARMED sucker.
I see many of you describe the NRA as “lunatics” and other non-flatterring terms, hiding behind your blog-post anonymity. Reminiscent of the character displayed by the “Love and Peace” crowd that would spit on soldiers returning from Vietnam.
JDW
July 19th, 2012
11:20 am
@Ragnar…”Suggesting that the 70 page RomneyCare is virtually identical to the 2500 page ObamaCare is a journalist tort.”
Not to let facts get in the way of a good “Con”..from the WaPo Fact Checker…
“An apples-to-apples comparison suggests there is virtually no difference in page count between the relevant parts of the two laws—and that is not even accounting for the fact that “Romneycare”covers just one state and “Obamacare” covers an entire country. ”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romneys-strange-counting-of-pages-to-distinguish-romneycare-from-obamacare/2011/06/01/AGdQ1hGH_blog.html?hpid=z2
RB from Gwinnett
July 19th, 2012
11:20 am
Funny how you all keep ignoring the UN small arms treaty Hillary is discussing with the UN which is the real driver behind all of this. And if you don’t believe Obama’s motive behind these negotiations is gun control he can’t get any other way, you are an idiot. As was pointed out earlier, liberals impose gun controls whenever they can. You aren’t fooling anybody with this “ha ha” garbage.
barking frog
July 19th, 2012
11:21 am
It is JamVet’s fault for being
so vulnerable to imitation.
JV
July 19th, 2012
11:21 am
The National Shooting Sports Foundation NSSF estimates the gun industry is responsible for approximately 180,000 jobs and has an annual impact on the U.S. economy of $28 billion.
Gun manufacturing is the one private-sector industry “doing fine” on Mr. Obama’s watch. Mr. Obama could honestly take credit for this jobs program, economic boost and the reduction in violent crime that has followed the spike in gun ownership on his watch. Instead, he’s silent about his greatest positive accomplishment.
the cat
July 19th, 2012
11:21 am
Erwin-you are the exception then. Most cons have death penalty inmates on a express lane and then refuse to allow a woman her own choice.
the cat
July 19th, 2012
11:23 am
Dawg Dad-good grief-please prove any returning soldier was spit on. Are you that gullible, really?
Steve
July 19th, 2012
11:23 am
I personally don’t think these are people buying more guns because of anything the NRA say’s or who the president might be but are new gun owners that are concerned for their safety. And since when have analyst ever been right about something?
Jay
July 19th, 2012
11:23 am
Fooling you is never my intention, RB. You do such a damn fine of it yourself, why bother?
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
11:25 am
the cat- I would ask a conservative how they are for the death penalty but against a woman’s choice. Not one person has been able to provide an answer
One is a right to life issue and the other is a punishment for a crime. They are two completely different subjects.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
11:25 am
JKL — “I’ll let this guy try to explain it to you. I know it’s all a lie because his lips are moving, but since you believe everything he says, here goes:”
And since y’all insist on taking a small piece of what Obama *actually* said out of context, here’s how it REALLY went down. Read on, Champ:
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/romney-these-hands-ad-you-didnt-build-that.php
It’s a shame that conservatives can’t actually be honest about what others actually say and do.
Aces & 8's
July 19th, 2012
11:26 am
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Elephant in the room
July 19th, 2012
11:26 am
Anything to avoid talking about the Obama economy.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 19th, 2012
11:27 am
Well, I see where they’re saying Romney could get more votes than Obama but still lose because of this electoral vote thingy.
If that happens you’ll be hearing a howl like the last time you cut up the little woman’s credit card.
It was OK back when Gore got a couple million more votes than My President and lost. But that was OK because it was a good thing. But if it happens to Romney this year you’ll need all the guns you can get your hands on to protect you from us Republicans. It ain’t right! It’s anti-democratic! We won’t stand for it—you hear?
We got our eyes on you and we ain’t going to let you steal the White House from us.
And have a good Thursday everybody.
JohnnyReb
July 19th, 2012
11:27 am
Oscar – you need to do your own research on Obama. Don’t believe me. Don’t believe the Left. You will find there are too many pointers and logical explanations of what Obama says, does, and tries to do, to ignore the growing cry from the Right that Obama is not one of us.
Erwin's cat
July 19th, 2012
11:27 am
what’s a *con* cat?
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
11:30 am
JKL — “ROFL (laughing and pointing at you yet again)”
Laugh all you want. Doesn’t change the fact that no one here said what you claimed they did. All your laughing won’t change the fact that you’re wrong.
“Strike two. Care to dodge again?”
Cowboy, you’ve given me nothing to dodge. You don’t even have an argument
You’ve made an unsupportable claim and haven’t even tried to support it. What’s to dodge? (pointing, laughing)
“If you can come you with names like punkin and jackass, I’m sure you can do better”
You’re not worth any additional effort, at least not until you actually come up with an argument.
JohnnyReb
July 19th, 2012
11:30 am
“I would ask a conservative how they are for the death penalty but against a woman’s choice. Not one person has been able to provide an answer.”
That’s an easy one – the unborn child is completely innocent; the death penalty recipient has been vetted to the best of our abilities, time and time again, and found to have demonstrated no redemable quality that justifies continued existence.
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
11:31 am
the cat- Most cons have death penalty inmates on a express lane and then refuse to allow a woman her own choice.
I think the real crime is keeping people on death row for years. I have no problem with choice, but am against the late term stuff. With modern technology, I think we should be able to save the fetis and get rid of it’s stupid incubator at that point.
carlosgvv
July 19th, 2012
11:32 am
JohnnyReb – 11:09
Please state EXACTLY what Obama has done to make him a socialist.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
11:33 am
JohnnnyReb @11:09 — Son, you’re completely off the deep end.
If this is how you behave when confronted with a moderate Democrat, you’d fairly LIQUEFY if someone actually introduced you to an actual Marxist.
Michael
July 19th, 2012
11:34 am
The question was raised as to why a person who has a job and pays taxes would vote for a democrat (or liberal). I have a job and pay taxes, and I intend to vote democrat for three major reasons.
1. Since 1928 there have been three stock market crashes – 1929, 1987, and 2007/8. All three occurred with republicans living in the white house. I do not like stock market crashes, so I don’t support the idea of republicans living in the white house.
2. Since 1928 there have been three financial crises – the banking crisis of 1930/31, the savings & loan crisis of the 1980s, and the banking crisis of 2007-2008. All three crises started with a republican living in the white house. I do not like financial crises, so I don’t support the idea of republicans living in the white house.
3. Since 1928 the stock market has gained over 12,800 points while democrats were living in the white house and has a net loss while republicans were living in the white house. I prefer it when the stock market goes up, so I prefer a democrat living in the white house.
There are other reasons, but these are three economic reasons that I prefer to have a democrat living in the white house.
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 19th, 2012
11:34 am
Jay
Since you know what everyone is writing before they write it, you should have stopped him before he thought about posting
larry
July 19th, 2012
11:34 am
I believe the second admendment gives the right to bear arms but also the gives the government the right to regulate that right , does it not ?
And this conspricy theory about U.N. and Hillary , hogwash, to put it nicely.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
11:34 am
Elephant — “Anything to avoid talking about the Obama economy.”
Wordpress and Blogspot await at your pleasure.
carlosgvv
July 19th, 2012
11:35 am
JohnnyReb – 11:30 “the unborn child is completely innocent”
And yet, 20% of all pregnacies end in spontaneous abortion. If you’re a Christian, you believe God knows even when a sparrow falls to the ground. Therefore, God knows when all these women abort and DOES NOTHING ABOUT IT
Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)
July 19th, 2012
11:37 am
I prefer Chris Rock’s plan:
I think we need some bullet control. I think every bullet should cost five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars for a bullet. Know why? Cos if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, there’d be no more innocent by-standers. That’d be it. Some guy’d be shot you’d be all ‘Dang, he must’ve done something, he’s got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in him!’ And people’d think before they shot someone ‘Man I will blow your head off, if I could afford it. I’m gonna get me a second job, start saving up, and you a dead man. You’d better hope I don’t get no bullets on lay-away!’ And even if you get shot you wouldn’t need to go to the emergency room. Whoever shot you’d take their bullet back. ‘I believe you got my property?’
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
11:38 am
joe mama- “Strike two. Care to dodge again?” Cowboy, you’ve given me nothing to dodge. You don’t even have an argument
Strike three. The dodging continues…
Still can’t come up with some obama love to share with the rest of us?
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
11:38 am
DawgDad — “I see many of you describe the NRA as “lunatics” and other non-flatterring terms, hiding behind your blog-post anonymity.”
So? What do you care? You plan to shoot us if you figure out who we are?
“Reminiscent of the character displayed by the “Love and Peace” crowd that would spit on soldiers returning from Vietnam.”
Except that there’s no documented evidence that such a thing ever happened.
carlosgvv
July 19th, 2012
11:38 am
The second ammendment authorizes a milita to keep and bear arms. At the time it was written, there was no standing professional Military as we have now. Citizen soldiers were the military. So, the Constitution authorizes our Military, any by extension, our Police, to keep and bear arms. It does NOT authorize civilians not in the military or police to keep and bear arms.
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
11:39 am
carlosgvv- Please state EXACTLY what Obama has done to make him a socialist
I’m guessing you didn’t read any of his books either…
getalife
July 19th, 2012
11:40 am
cons thought Jay was on vacation and boom.
Keep in mind the gop are cutting government jobs and that includes police.
In the end, you will need your guns and that end will arrive quicker voting gop.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
11:41 am
JKL — “Strike three. The dodging continues…”
Sonny, I’ve already rounded the bases twice on you. Let me know when you have an actual point to make.
“Still can’t come up with some obama love to share with the rest of us?”
You seem to be laboring under the misconception that I owe you some kind of answer to something.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 19th, 2012
11:42 am
A change of pace…
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/07/19/political-videos-mitt-romneys-iphone-s-ad/
Oscar
July 19th, 2012
11:44 am
carlosgvv
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That is a popular argument. However, the Surpreme Court does not except it. Neither does the vast majority of Americians.
It’s not possible to say for sure what the authors of the Constition would think about citizens bearing arms in this day and age. I think they would still be in favor of it.
But trying to guess what they would now think is nothing but speculation.
They expected us to construct the kind of government we want now, that’t why they allowed for amendments to the constitution. Not to be governed by what we thought they would have wanted.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
11:44 am
J. Reb — “found to have demonstrated no redemable quality that justifies continued existence.”
I’ve found no such quality in you, how about that?
People don’t have to justify their “continued existence” in our society. I don’t know what you do for a living, but it’s pretty clear that you operate in some sort of emotional/mental shoot-from-the-hip haze that doesn’t admit for very much attention to anything else.
If you can find some sort of justify-your-life legal procedure in the Georgia State Code, you let me know, K?
Verbal Kint
July 19th, 2012
11:44 am
Carlosgvv….your analysis of the 2nd admendment is BRILLIANT! I mean, how come NO ONE has ever brought this amazing fact before the Supreme Court to have the 2nd admendment overturned?
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 19th, 2012
11:45 am
If you are a republican and you are not rich, this is for you…
http://lolcats.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/07/19/funny-cat-pictures-how-low-can-you-go/
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
11:48 am
V. Kint — “Carlosgvv….your analysis of the 2nd admendment is BRILLIANT! I mean, how come NO ONE has ever brought this amazing fact before the Supreme Court to have the 2nd admendment overturned?”
Because no one’s arguing to have it overturned.
The argument is over what it means and what it permits.
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
11:48 am
joe mama- You seem to be laboring under the misconception that I owe you some kind of answer to something.
You said you would give a shot at answering why any business owner or tax payer would want to vote Democrat. So far you have asked a bunch of questions but have repeated dodged giving any type of answer. Where’s the obama love?
Feel free to give me the standard Democrat response of “You’re a racist”. I’m used to it by now…
stands for decibels (SfBA)
July 19th, 2012
11:48 am
The second ammendment authorizes a milita to keep and bear arms.
…in a cowardly, horribly written way. For the record.
RB from Gwinnett
July 19th, 2012
11:48 am
Are you saying you weren’t aware of the treaty and the stir it has caused in the gun community Jay?
Your either lying or your journalistic skills are severely lacking. Which is it?
stands for decibels (SfBA)
July 19th, 2012
11:49 am
before the Supreme Court to have the 2nd admendment overturned?
it’s gonna be hard to beat that one on the ol’ negative IQ scale.
stands for decibels (SfBA)
July 19th, 2012
11:50 am
the gun community
hee hee.
“gun community.”
Doggone/GA
July 19th, 2012
11:51 am
“It does NOT authorize civilians not in the military or police to keep and bear arms”
And I disagree totally and completely. I think it does precisely that: authoriize citizens to keep and bear arms.
getalife
July 19th, 2012
11:51 am
FYI, if your argument is you are not racist, don’t go on hannity’s show only.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
11:54 am
JKL — “You said you would give a shot at answering why any business owner or tax payer would want to vote Democrat. So far you have asked a bunch of questions but have repeated dodged giving any type of answer.”
By your own logic, you have repeatedly dodged clarifying your question because you won’t respond to me. Get over yourself.
I’m not dodging your question. I’m trying to get at why — if you think there are multiple factors that go into selecting the person for whom *you* will vote — you would demand that Democrats only consider *one* factor. That’s what your original question asked.
You need to pay closer attention to detail, Punkin.
“Where’s the obama love?”
Where’s the vaunted conservative wisdom and sense of fair play? If you’re going to stack the deck with the question and refuse to clarify yourself, then why should I play in your ballpark? You said it was a serious question, and I said that I didn’t believe you. The way it’s turning out, I was exactly right — you weren’t serious at all.
“Feel free to give me the standard Democrat response of “You’re a racist”. I’m used to it by now…”
Oh, my dear country mouse. You don’t know me very well at ALL. (laughing)