NRA, gun industry once again mine profit from paranoia
In the health-care debate, we’ve all watched as the proudest single accomplishment of a self-described “severely conservative” Republican governor has somehow been transformed into proof of Marxist intent once that same plan was adopted by a Democratic president.
It’s political alchemy at its best. In fact, as testimony to the power of propaganda, that one’s hard to beat. It reminds us that if people really want to believe something — even something manifestly ridiculous, illogical and countermanded by facts — they will still find a way to do so.
But this example of that same phenomenon comes in a close second:
“Gun sales are soaring nationwide and retailers say that’s not unusual to see during a presidential election year. “Basically the situation you have now is 2008 all over again,” said Steven B. Drew, owner of Georgia Gun and Loan.
Analysts say the 2008 spike came from fear that new gun control legislation would make it more difficult to acquire firearms. “People were uncertain what the new president and the new administration was going to do so there tends to be a upsurge in fire arm sales in general,” said Drew.
Now, they are seeing it all over again. “A lot of people got guns and they certainly don’t want to be without ammo. If they think they are going to cut back on the ammunition they are going to stock pile it so they wont be out,” said Jackie Sizemore, the owner of Backwoods Outdoors.
Sizemore says his store has been busy. He’s constantly having to re-order guns and ammo to keep supplies on the shelves. “You’ll be out of a lot of goods, people will be waiting on a lot of stuff ,” he said.
Weapons like pistols and tactical weapons like AR-15s.
“Those are what you will find on the chopping block first they will do away with tactical type guns like that and high capacity magazines stuff like that,”he said.
In fact, Sizemore says he can barely keep AR-15s on the shelf. “Everybody will be out of AR 15s. You won’t be able to find them anywhere,” he said.
A screen-grab from the NRA's "gunbanobama.com" website.
As I’ve noted earlier, we’ve been through this before. During the 2008 campaign, Wayne LaPierre and the NRA warned gun owners that Barack Obama had a 10-point plan to confiscate all of their guns and ammunition.
Point One was supposed to be a federal ban on the use of guns for home defense. Point Three was a ban on the sale, manufacture and possession of handguns. Point Four was the closure of 90 percent of American gunshops. Federal taxes on guns and ammunition were supposed to go up 500 percent, and the sale of ammunition for hunting rifles was supposed to be banned altogether.
And of course, none of that ever happened. It was all tinfoil-hat stuff, manufactured to part the gullible from their money, and it worked spectacularly well. Based on a completely fabricated threat, the NRA and its sponsors in the gun industry terrified the suckers into buying huge quantities of the gun industry’s products. Ka-ching!
Now, you might think that people who get fooled so badly would learn a lesson from that humiliation. They might get wary of those who had played them for dummies. But once again, such thinking fails to account for the fact that sometimes people just want to be fooled, and if people want to be played for suckers there is no way on earth to help them.
Consider, if you will, LaPierre’s explanation for why that 10-point plan was never implemented. He now argues that the fact that Obama has done nothing regarding gun control — the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence has even given Obama an “F” rating — in fact proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he’s a sinister gun-grabber.
And yes, that is actually the argument that they are using. And yes, that is the argument that is driving gun owners into the stores to buy still more guns. Like people lining up for a rollercoaster ride, they are scared because they want to be scared and, I suspect, even enjoy it at some level.
And the people scaring them are chuckling all the way to the bank.
– Jay Bookman
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Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 19th, 2012
9:24 am
TaxPayer@9:21 am
Bullets go bad.
I heard that you have to burn the old ones and buy new ones once a year.
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we have a winning plan for cons there
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 19th, 2012
9:24 am
In July, a federal judge in Florida permanently blocked an NRA-backed Florida law that threatened to strip doctors of their medical licenses if they warned patients about the proven risks of guns in the home. The court ruled that the law violates the First Amendment because it interferes with truthful speech about the dangers of easy access to guns.
Because in NRA land, the 2d amendment trumps the 1st and because no one should have the information to make an intelligent decision…. The NRA will lead the lemmings!
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
9:24 am
Perhaps we should let Eric Withholder confiscate all our guns so he can give them to criminals or send them to Mexico…
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
9:24 am
joe mama- No, it’s not, and even the SCOTUS decision didn’t say that it was.
It’s only constitutional because it is a tax. But It’s not really a tax because obama said so. Got it.
Vote obama: Power to the sheeple!
Recon 0311 2533
July 19th, 2012
9:25 am
The left keeps coming up with these absurd statements that the ACA is identical to the health care bill that Romney passed as a Governor. That’s a complete lie just like the lies about the NRA terrifying suckers. The only ones that the NRA terrifies are anti-gun nut suckers on the left.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:26 am
Joseph — “Making libs foam at the mouth is my hobby…”
Punkin, you clearly haven’t clued in to the fact that you’re a figure of fun here. We’re not frustrated by you. We’re *laughing* at you.
“I can’t do that at Blogspot or Wordpress because you loons would never subscribe to my blog…….”
Why would we need to, when we get our fun-filled bugnuts conservaposts delivered to us right here?
MiltonMan
July 19th, 2012
9:26 am
“The above is a perfect description of fundamentalist Christians who actually believe the fables of the Bible. It is not suprising that these same “compasionate conservatives” are the very ones who are packing the gun stores and turning their homes into armed camps. It is even less suprising that these same mindless loons are the voting backbone of today’s Republican Party.”
In other words:
Jimmy peanut Carter, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson Sr/Jr, = all good Christians because they are libs
Republican Christians = All bad
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
9:27 am
Joe Hussein Mama:
Wow you people just hold your ears and bang your heads against the wall don’t you… What a dense lot you libs are…..
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/taxes-going-pay-pay-obamacare-145413745.html
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 19th, 2012
9:28 am
A federal judge in Texas agreed with the Brady Center’s legal briefs and threw out an NRA-supported challenge to the Obama Administration’s Mexico gun trafficking rule requiring that gun shops along the Mexico border report bulk high-powered rifle sales to law enforcement.
This victory exposes the lie behind the gun lobby’s claims that it wants to enforce the laws on the books, and it reveals the gun lobby hypocrisy over their feigned indignation about Attorney General Holder and the Fast and Furious controversy. The gun lobby wants to keep law enforcement from cracking down on gun trafficking to Mexico because it jeopardizes gun industry profits, and this ruling is a sharp blow to gun industry’s efforts to keep profiting off sales to traffickers.
OMG, you mean that the conned poutrage over Fast and Furious, spurred by the lies of the NRA guppies, could be feigned?
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:29 am
JKL — “’s only constitutional because it is a tax.”
Which is not what the SCOTUS said.
Go get yourself up to speed by reading what the decisions actually said, then come on back and we can talk.
“But It’s not really a tax because obama said so. Got it.”
Nope. Failing to read the SCOTUS decisions but behaving like you did doesn’t make you look smart. It just makes you look desperate and clueless.
Again, go read what they SAID — not what some wingnut website CLAIMS they said — and come on back. I’ll be waiting.
Grits
July 19th, 2012
9:29 am
Bookman go home, you don’t deserve to be in the South.
Pizzaman
July 19th, 2012
9:30 am
ty webb @ 8:42:
the sentence is true. The ACA is almost exactly the same Health care Act Newt proposed in ‘96, yes it’s centerpiece was the individual mandate. The only difference I can find so far was Newt’s had massive tort reform. To help the people? Yea, people at insurance companies.
Back on subject:
1. Why in hell would anyone not in the Military need an AR-15? Ever see what they do to squirrel?
2, GA’s requirements for carrying concealed. No training or safety. A tighty rightie with a gun. Disaster looking for a place.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:30 am
Joseph — “Wow you people just hold your ears and bang your heads against the wall don’t you… What a dense lot you libs are…..:”
You can post Yahoo links all day long if you like; it won’t change anything. I think I’ll rely on what the SCOTUS actually said. (laughing)
TaxPayer
July 19th, 2012
9:30 am
I asked a rather simple question that could be easily satisfied with a link – even one to Huffington yet you default to typical lib logic mode.
MiltonMan,
You could always try to refute my logic. Perhaps with data showing that mostly liberals purchase guns and sell them in the aftermarket, etc.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
July 19th, 2012
9:31 am
The cow is out of the barn. There are a reported 45 million men and woman in the US WHO LIKE TO HUNT who are well armed with several guns each and plenty of ammo. No, they are not clinging to them. They are not plotting with them, but they are there…….But, in a moments notice, they could become a pretty powerful force to be dealt with say for someone in power decided to exceed their authority and do something stupid like declare marshal law. Never happen because 95% of military and police would not obey the order. Who wants to track down 45 million hunters with rifles with scopes on them? And why would Americans feel the need to “rush” out and arm themselves?
MiltonMan
July 19th, 2012
9:31 am
Here is your “idiotic lib of the moment” link – none other than one of Obozo’s hand pick clowns:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/13304283-418/emanuel-determined-to-preserve-city-gun-law-despite-judges-ruling.html
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
9:31 am
Joe Hussein Mama:
Joseph — “Making libs foam at the mouth is my hobby…”
Punkin, you clearly haven’t clued in to the fact that you’re a figure of fun here. We’re not frustrated by you. We’re *laughing* at you.
I’m sure you are… I don’t hear any laughing but do hear some howling going on in the distance once I submit a post… Maybe I’m hearing things…
“I can’t do that at Blogspot or Wordpress because you loons would never subscribe to my blog…….”
Why would we need to, when we get our fun-filled bugnuts conservaposts delivered to us right here?
You just proved an excellent point that I do have a place here. Suck it…. LOL…
barking frog
July 19th, 2012
9:31 am
Obamacare bans all guns
and hunting so this thread
is moot.
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
9:33 am
Looks like even CBS couldn’t even muster some good news for Oblama…
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57475191/cbs-news-new-york-times-poll-7-18-12/
GT
July 19th, 2012
9:33 am
A lot of that Republican hearing on Obama not supplying the information and Holder being held in contempt is a paranoid gun crew thinking O is after them so they are creating this charade to rally around. Bachmann does this creation of fear and rakes in political donations. The woman can’t get a national audience but she is a power broker because instead of giving money to a cause like cancer or orphan kids, people of laying it out for guns and Bachmann lies. Delay became Speaker of the House as did Newt churning up these science fiction novels poorly written to raise money from idiots. Criminals operating with immunity of being politicians, with the exception of Delay who finally was convicted.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:34 am
Ima Librul — “…….But, in a moments notice, they could become a pretty powerful force to be dealt with say for someone in power decided to exceed their authority and do something stupid like declare marshal law. Never happen because 95% of military and police would not obey the order. Who wants to track down 45 million hunters with rifles with scopes on them? And why would Americans feel the need to “rush” out and arm themselves?”
If you think a disorganized horde that’s already distrustful of any kind of centralized government authority would coalesce “in a moments notice” to something even remotely resembling a military “force,” then I have a bridge to sell you.
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
9:35 am
joe mama- Punkin, you clearly haven’t clued in to the fact that you’re a figure of fun here. We’re not frustrated by you. We’re *laughing* at you.
Ditto
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
9:35 am
Joe Hussein Mama:
Yes and they clearly stated it was a tax… Right there on the first page… Perhaps when your reading it the word TAX just isn’t legible to you??? LOL??
TaxPayer
July 19th, 2012
9:35 am
This one’s for you, MiltonMan. You party pooper:
Virtually every gun starts out as a legally manufactured product, but the
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) points to three common ways guns move from legal distribution channels to the criminal market:
•Corrupt federally licensed gun dealers: Federally licensed gun dealers send more guns to the criminal market than any other single source. Nearly 60% of the guns used in crime are traced back to a small number—just 1.2%—of crooked gun dealers. Corrupt dealers frequently have high numbers of missing guns, in many cases because they’re selling guns “off the books” to private sellers and criminals. In 2005, the ATF examined 3,083 gun dealers and found 12,274 “missing” firearms.
•Straw purchasing: Straw purchasing is the most common way criminals get guns, accounting for almost 50% of trafficking investigations. A straw purchaser is someone with a clean record who buys guns on behalf of someone legally prohibited from possessing guns. Straw purchasers are often the friends, relatives, spouses or girlfriends of prohibited purchasers. The two Columbine High School shooters recruited friends to buy guns for them at Colorado gun shows. One of the buyers admitted she would not have bought the guns if she had been required to submit to a background check.
•Gun Shows and private gun sales: Gun shows have been called “Tupperware parties for criminals” because they attract large numbers of prohibited buyers. A loophole in federal law allows unlicensed or “private” sellers, many of whom work out of gun shows, to lawfully sell or transfer guns without conducting a criminal background check. Gun show dealers have been known to advertise to criminals with signs that read “no background checks required here.”
MiltonMan
July 19th, 2012
9:35 am
“MiltonMan,
You could always try to refute my logic. Perhaps with data showing that mostly liberals purchase guns and sell them in the aftermarket, etc.”
Man you are clueless. Your originally statement was the libs buy most of their guns from cons to which you provided ZERO proof. Your logic = hilarious
Bill Orvis White
July 19th, 2012
9:35 am
The NRA teaches common sense and safety with weaponry. I’m sick and tired of the left and the lamestream media beating up on the NRA. I feel like I should be writing them more checks after reading the idiocy on this blog. Again, Bill White’s not going to be around to protect you silly naive secular progressives.
GOOD NIGHT!
Amen,
Bill
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
July 19th, 2012
9:35 am
Real men don’t need a gun
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 19th, 2012
9:36 am
But, in a moments notice, they could become a pretty powerful force to be dealt with say for someone in power decided to exceed their authority and do something stupid like declare marshal law
Apparently someone has not heard about them Obama secret drones that wipe out entire wedding parties in Wisconsin.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:36 am
Joseph — “I’m sure you are… I don’t hear any laughing but do hear some howling going on in the distance once I submit a post… Maybe I’m hearing things… ”
You are. That howling isn’t coming from us. Really, we don’t take you much more seriously than we take someone like Rags.
“You just proved an excellent point that I do have a place here.”
I’ve never said otherwise. (laughing, pointing)
“Suck it…. LOL…”
I love it when a conservachimp thinks he’s made a point, but actually manages to stumble backwards into proving the point that was just made *against* him.
Moderate Line
July 19th, 2012
9:37 am
If Obama could not do it with 60 Dem Senators and a majority in the house then I don’t think there is much of a threat now.
Gun ownership per 100 people:
United States 88.8 1
Serbia 58.2 2 [5]
Yemen 54.8 3
Switzerland 45.7 4
Cyprus 36.4 5
Saudi Arabia 35.0 6
Iraq 34.2 7
Finland 32.0 8 [6]
Uruguay 31.8 9
Sweden 31.6 10
Norway 31.3 11
France 31.2 12
Canada 30.8 13
Austria 30.4 14
Iceland 30.3 15
Germany 30.3 15
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:37 am
JKL — “Ditto”
Yes, don’t get your feelings hurt. You’re a figure of fun, too. Joseph has just made more of a splash here than you have. Try harder and maybe you can reach Joseph’s level.
Mighty Righty
July 19th, 2012
9:37 am
Why on earth would anyone think Obama is a marxist? Gee, could it be because his grand parents that raised him were communinsts? Could it be because his mother was a communist? Could it be because his admitted mentor was a communist? Could it be because many of his closest advisors in the white house are communists? Could it be because he has adopted as his reelection slogan a communist motto? Could it be because his “redistribution of wealth” ideaology is basic communism? Could it be becuase his policies are designed to destroy capitalism? Could it be because his “big” government ideas mimic communism? Individually none of those things mean anything, but collectively I just can’t imagine why anyone would think he is anything other than a marxist.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
July 19th, 2012
9:38 am
Mama…………..Most of these 45 million ain’t bed wetters. It’s Obama’s worst nightmare to accomplish his real dream.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:38 am
Joseph — “Yes and they clearly stated it was a tax…”
The SCOTUS said no such thing.
“Right there on the first page… Perhaps when your reading it the word TAX just isn’t legible to you??? LOL??”
Again, you can rely on Yahoo all you want. I prefer to rely on what the SCOTUS actually said. (laughing, pointing)
Hootinanny Yum Yum
July 19th, 2012
9:39 am
Yep. All about paranoia.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/18/walmart-flash-mob_n_1682778.html
Rightwing Troll
July 19th, 2012
9:39 am
“Hahaahahah…wow…I wonder how many Priuses were sold because of the “sky is falling” claim of man made global warming.”
Never mind the fact that oil is a finite resource and at some point we’ll have to have alternatives, so priouses and their ilk will be necessary, and also never mind the fact that the whole “Obama is going to take your guns” is an outright fabrication to scare the idiot cons into wetting their pants…(successfully I might add…)
Pizzaman
July 19th, 2012
9:40 am
I just read most of the posts and completely forgot about the Black Helicopters and the Blue Helmeted UN troops. And foolish me I didn’t realize it was Hillary and the UN who are going to take your guns and or ammo this time. So just run off to the gun store like good little lemmings and make the gun manufactures and store owner rich. May end up putting some people back to work before the election! Ever think of that?
MiltonMan
July 19th, 2012
9:40 am
TaxPayer
July 19th, 2012
9:35 am
This one’s for you, MiltonMan. You party pooper:
Virtually every gun starts out as a legally manufactured product, but the
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) points to three common ways guns move from legal distribution channels to the criminal market:
•Corrupt federally licensed gun dealers: Federally licensed gun dealers send more guns to the criminal market than any other single source. Nearly 60% of the guns used in crime are traced back to a small number—just 1.2%—of crooked gun dealers. Corrupt dealers frequently have high numbers of missing guns, in many cases because they’re selling guns “off the books” to private sellers and criminals. In 2005, the ATF examined 3,083 gun dealers and found 12,274 “missing” firearms.
•Straw purchasing: Straw purchasing is the most common way criminals get guns, accounting for almost 50% of trafficking investigations. A straw purchaser is someone with a clean record who buys guns on behalf of someone legally prohibited from possessing guns. Straw purchasers are often the friends, relatives, spouses or girlfriends of prohibited purchasers. The two Columbine High School shooters recruited friends to buy guns for them at Colorado gun shows. One of the buyers admitted she would not have bought the guns if she had been required to submit to a background check.
•Gun Shows and private gun sales: Gun shows have been called “Tupperware parties for criminals” because they attract large numbers of prohibited buyers. A loophole in federal law allows unlicensed or “private” sellers, many of whom work out of gun shows, to lawfully sell or transfer guns without conducting a criminal background check. Gun show dealers have been known to advertise to criminals with signs that read “no background checks required here.”
So, using your logic, (1) The FEDERALLY licensed gun dealers = all cons; (2) Straw purchaser is a liberal who convinces his con friends to buy guns from a con dealer; (3)Criminals are libs who buy their guns at gun shows from cons. So the ATF agents in Fast & Furious were all libs who were forced to buy guns from all cons who also forced them to “hand-over” said guns to libs in Mexico.
Sounds like your “logic” is back firing on you little buddy
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
9:41 am
Joe Hussein Mama:
Should you perhaps change your name to rambler… Because you make no sense… But I guess that’s a liberal thing…. To take a quote from the great Governor John Sununu.. “Your struggling” Joe Hussein Mama….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 19th, 2012
9:41 am
Welcome to the “Obama for President” Campaign Blog
Aquagirl
July 19th, 2012
9:41 am
How many thugs have been killed by cash/gold coins vs. a nice warm lead slug being introduced into their carcass???
It’s comments like these, typed with one hand, that show exactly what I’m talking about.
If you must defend your home it’s regrettable but necessary. Not cause for fantasizing and grabbing a handful of tissue.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:41 am
Ima Librul — “Mama…………..Most of these 45 million ain’t bed wetters. It’s Obama’s worst nightmare to accomplish his real dream.”
Given that he hasn’t made Move One to accomplish what you call “his real dream,” I’m going to have to go with the NRA Is Full Of Crap reply to your assertion.
Speaking of the NRA and their scary bullcrap, where are the “jack-booted government thugs” they promised us about ten years ago?
godless heathen
July 19th, 2012
9:41 am
. Why in hell would anyone not in the Military need an AR-15? Ever see what they do to squirrel?
Why in the world would anyone want a car that will go 100 mph when the legal limit is 70? Ever see what a car going 100 mph does to whatever it hits?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 19th, 2012
9:42 am
NIGHT WATCHMAN
Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle of a desert.
Congress said, “Someone may steal from it at night.”
So they created a night watchman position and hired a person for the job.
Then Congress said, “How does the watchman do his job without instruction?”
So they created a planning department and hired two people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do time studies.
Then Congress said, “How will we know the night watchman is doing the tasks correctly?”
So they created a Quality Control department and hired two people. One was to do the studies and one was to write the reports.
Then Congress said, “How are these people going to get paid?”
So they created two positions: a time keeper and a payroll officer then hired two people.
Then Congress said, “Who will be accountable for all of these people?”
So they created an administrative section and hired three people, an Administrative Officer, Assistant Administrative Officer, and a Legal Secretary.
Then Congress said, “We have had this command in operation for one year and we are $918,000 over budget, we must cut back.”
So they laid-off the night watchman.
NOW slowly, let it sink in.
Quietly, we go like sheep to slaughter. Does anybody remember the reason given for the establishment of the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY during the Carter administration?
Anybody?
Anything?
No?
Didn’t think so!
Bottom line is, we’ve spent several hundred billion dollars in support of an agency, the reason for which very few people who read this can remember!
Ready??
It was very simple… and at the time, everybody thought it very
appropriate.
The Department of Energy was instituted on 8/04/1977, TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL.
Hey, pretty efficient, huh???
AND NOW IT’S 2012 — 35 YEARS LATER — AND THE BUDGET FOR THIS “NECESSARY” DEPARTMENT IS AT $24.2 BILLION A YEAR. IT HAS 16,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES ANDAPPROXIMATELY 100,000 CONTRACT EMPLOYEES; AND LOOK AT THE JOB IT HAS DONE!
(THIS IS WHERE YOU SLAP YOUR FOREHEAD AND SAY, “WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?”)
34 years ago 30% of our oil consumption was foreign imports. Today 70% of our oil consumption is foreign imports.
Ah, yes — good old Federal bureaucracy.
NOW, WE HAVE TURNED OVER THE BANKING SYSTEM, HEALTH CARE, AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY TO THE SAME GOVERNMENT?
Hello!! Anybody Home?
Signed….
The Night Watchman
Rightwing Troll
July 19th, 2012
9:42 am
” Individually none of those things mean anything, but collectively I just can’t imagine why anyone would think he is anything other than a marxist.”
Well, some of us use actual facts (as opposed to fantasy, hatred, and suppostion) to decide… when you frame it using facts, then the only conclusion you can reach is that Obama is certainly NOT a communist…
MiltonMan
July 19th, 2012
9:43 am
“And foolish me I didn’t realize it was Hillary and the UN who are going to take your guns and or ammo this time. So just run off to the gun store like good little lemmings and make the gun manufactures and store owner rich. May end up putting some people back to work before the election! Ever think of that?”
Yep, the same Hildabeast who tried to convince us that her husband’s supposed affairs were nothing more than a right wing witch hunt.
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
9:43 am
Joseph- Perhaps when your reading it the word TAX just isn’t legible to you???
Stop being a racist. It’s not right to make fun of illiterate minorities and illegal immigrants.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 19th, 2012
9:44 am
ITS ALL BUSH’S FAULT:
“Real men don’t need a gun”
You are correct in part ………. but they do need one against evil men ……. who have guns.
But then I’m guessing you have never been there …………..
RB from Gwinnett
July 19th, 2012
9:44 am
Even a bush league journalist would have mentioned the recent news reports of a UN gun ban treaty being reported to control everything down to handguns as a reason for the spike Jay. Did you leave that out of your post intentionally or are your journalistic skills not even up to bush league level?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 19th, 2012
9:45 am
Two Headlines:
17 wounded after gunman opens fire in Tuscaloosa
2 killed, 19 hurt in shooting at outdoor party in Toronto
How could the second one happen? Guns are not allowed in Canada !
Moderate Line
July 19th, 2012
9:45 am
It’s political alchemy at its best. In fact, as testimony to the power of propaganda, that one’s hard to beat. It reminds us that if people really want to believe something — even something manifestly ridiculous, illogical and countermanded by facts — they will still find a way to do so.
++++
One man’s propaganda is another man’s truths. There is a big difference between doing something at the state level and doing something at a national level. For one the people of Mass probably favor the legislation while nationally people don’t. Also, Obama criticised Hillary for manadates. All politicians are flip floppers.
http://www.urban.org/publications/901151.html
Mighty Righty
July 19th, 2012
9:45 am
Moderate Line
July 19th, 2012
9:37 am
If Obama could not do it with 60 Dem Senators and a majority in the house then I don’t think there is much of a threat now.
I hope you are right. However this president has shown he has no obligation to uphold his oathe of office and ignores our laws and constitution as he chooses.
the cat
July 19th, 2012
9:45 am
I am mostly upset that these delusional people vote.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:45 am
Joseph — “Should you perhaps change your name to rambler… Because you make no sense…”
I make plenty of sense. You’re just not listening.
The SCOTUS did *not* call the ACA a tax, no matter what else anyone wants to say about it. The assertion that the ACA is a tax is simply not objectively true.
“But I guess that’s a liberal thing….
I can’t help it if you can’t keep up with me, Joseph.
“To take a quote from the great Governor John Sununu.. “Your struggling” Joe Hussein Mama….”
Given how quickly Sununu had to back off and apologize for what he said the other day, I’m really don’t impressed by anything he has to say.
Besides, Punkin, you’re reduced to posting Yahoo links to argue with the SCOTUS. I’m not a bit concerned. (laughing)
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
9:46 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801:
Welcome to the “Obama for President” Campaign Blog
And the simple fact is these fruits are actually helping Romney. If an Independent were to stumble in here and read the tripe these fruits are posting. They would certainly realize that if they were to vote for Oblama they would be aligning themselves with these loons. Chalk up a vote for Romney…..
Recon 0311 2533
July 19th, 2012
9:46 am
“Why in the world would anyone want a car that will go 100 mph when the legal limit is 70? Ever see what a car going 100 mph does to whatever it hits?”
Excellent reply to a squirrely anti-gun nut.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:47 am
0311 — “Does anybody remember the reason given for the establishment of the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY during the Carter administration? Anybody? Anything? No? Didn’t think so!”
I do.
The reason was that the Nixon Administration had already largely set it up in the wake of the Arab oil embargo of 1974.
You’re welcome.
Oscar
July 19th, 2012
9:48 am
I hope they are only buying guns and ammo made in the USA. Good for the economy.
TaxPayer
July 19th, 2012
9:49 am
MiltonMan,
Todd Tiahrt (R-KS) sends his regards. Now tell me again about how it is the libs out there demanding their 2nd amendment rights be protected from that socialist Obama.
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
9:49 am
Joe Hussein Mama:
Poor poor lost soul… Bless your heart….
AU Liberal in ATL
July 19th, 2012
9:49 am
Typical NRA, NRA supporters, republicans, right wingers, conservatives, t-baggers and religious nuts…never let facts get in the way of your sick and twisted ideaology.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 19th, 2012
9:50 am
JHM…. oh come on, if it is not in the fearmail to cut and paste you can’t expect Scouty to know about it….
Williebkind
July 19th, 2012
9:50 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 19th, 2012
9:45 am
Is it not illegal to have guns in Chicago? Blacks sure are racist, they kill more blacks with guns than anybody.
Oscar
July 19th, 2012
9:50 am
It should be a requirment that every head of household should own a rifle or a shotgun.
Works in Kenesaw, Switzerland and Isreal.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:51 am
Joseph — “Poor poor lost soul…”
Sorry, Punkin! No soul to lose!
“Bless your heart….”
Post some more Yahoo links, whydontcha? Maybe you can use Yahoo to prove why global climate change isn’t happening or why minorities use so many social welfare programs. (giggling)
Hootinanny Yum Yum
July 19th, 2012
9:52 am
Paranoia strikes deep…
Into your soul it will creep…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/18/samuel-williams-duwayne-henderson-davis-dawkins-internet-cafe-shooting_n_1682519.html
Recon 0311 2533
July 19th, 2012
9:52 am
Lets just forget that Chief Justice Roberts said that the ACA was constitutional based on Congress’s right to tax and that based only on the commerce clause it would be unconstitutional. I think there will be reminders of this decision during the weeks leading up to Novembers election but of course the left doesn’t enjoy hearing it.
JKL2
July 19th, 2012
9:52 am
the cat- I am mostly upset that these delusional people vote.
And as Democrats they get to conitnue voting long after their dead. Anyone trying to take away their constitutional right to do so is a racist!
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:53 am
KUTGF — “JHM…. oh come on, if it is not in the fearmail to cut and paste you can’t expect Scouty to know about it….”
He actually expects us to believe that Carter promulgated, set up and launched an entire Cabinet-level Federal Department . . . in only SEVEN MONTHS. Riiiiiiiight.
TaxPayer
July 19th, 2012
9:53 am
NRA=Libs
Some more of that MiltonMan=LaPierre logic.
I wonder if MiltonMan is sporting that latest NRA bumper sticker: “GunShows are for Libs.”
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
July 19th, 2012
9:53 am
Can’t understand why Obama is not “pulling away” with all the mud being slung at Romney for being guilty of all things ” being successful”. Pretty weak case for this President to be going around the country saying, ” this guy is rich….he’s made a lot of money…..He’s paid a lot of taxes………And damn, he wants it for you to………………We can’t have that…..there are tables in the back set up to sign you up for food stamps ans welfare……….It’s the least I can do”
ty webb
July 19th, 2012
9:53 am
Pizzaman,
(re: your 9:30) Newt has never been a republican governor, therefore I posit that Jay wasn’t referring to Newt in that untrue sentence he typed, which I referenced.
Stonethrower
July 19th, 2012
9:53 am
A lot of these fearful folks in and around the town I live purchased firearms and have concealed/carry permits. I did the same to protect myself from them! I don’t wont to be caught in a gun fight with just a knife.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
9:54 am
Recon — “I think there will be reminders of this decision during the weeks leading up to Novembers election but of course the left doesn’t enjoy hearing it.”
On the contrary. We LOVE hearing it.
Bring it up some more. LOTS more.
Erwin's cat
July 19th, 2012
9:54 am
I always get a blank stare from the clerk at Walmart when I ask for 2000 rounds.
St Simons
July 19th, 2012
9:56 am
I have no problem with guns,
its stupid people with guns that bother me
hyped up on 5 gallon buckets of red bull racist hate
like the target audience of that ad up there.
Jay
July 19th, 2012
9:56 am
You’re right, RB.
A bush-league journalist WOULD have mentioned that equally paranoid, equally groundless conspiracy theory that is driving foolish people to give their money to the very people peddling that total BS.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 19th, 2012
9:57 am
Joseph:
Could be true ! Thanks !
luangtom
July 19th, 2012
9:58 am
Well, I would just say to look at who is meeting in New York City right now discussing their Small Arms Treaty. The UN and its anti-USA detractors are meeting on our soil to discuss moves to implement removing small-arms, both military and private, from the hands of the citizens of its member nations. Guess who’s citizens hold the most small-arms in their possession…..USA, of course. So, why not be paranoid when dealing with a President that advocates his Secretary of State voting for and signing the Small Arms Treaty on July 27th in NYC. He will try to circumvent the legislative process in the US for enforcing international rule that he feels will need no approval, other than his. Yes, there is reason to be paranoid.
TaxPayer
July 19th, 2012
9:58 am
Congress has passed a series of laws that allow easy access to guns and restrict law enforcement’s ability to go after traffickers. Three policies in particular impede law enforcement’s ability to prosecute traffickers:
•Keeping crime gun trace information secret: Until 2002, the ATF released aggregate crime gun trace reports to local police departments, researchers, policymakers and public safety advocates. The reports revealed for the first time that 1.2% of federally licensed gun dealers supply 57% of the guns used in crime. But, bowing to pressure from the gun lobby, Congress voted to restrict police access to crime gun trace data and cut off public access altogether. These restrictions, known as the Tiahrt Amendments (named for the Kansas Congressman who sponsored the bill), have passed in every Department of Justice budget since 2003, despite the fact that prominent law enforcement associations oppose them as a serious threat to public safety.
•Handcuffing the ATF: The ATF, the sole government agency charged with enforcing federal gun laws, has operated without a permanent director since the Bush Administration, and operates with just 1,800 agents to monitor approximately 77,000 gun dealers. Given these constraints, it would take ATF 22 years to inspect all federally licensed gun dealers. Even if the ATF had the manpower to inspect most gun dealers, federal law limits the agency to a single unannounced inspection of a dealer in any 12-month period. Congress has made it increasingly difficult for the ATF to revoke licenses of crooked gun dealers.
•An absence of records: It is impossible for law enforcement to know the whereabouts of millions of firearms in circulation today because Federal law explicitly bars the ATF from establishing a database of retail firearms sales, and private gun sellers are not required to keep a paper trail of transactions. Prior to 2001, federal authorities maintained criminal background check records for up to six months. Under President Bush, Attorney General John Ashcroft reversed this policy and ordered the destruction of all criminal background check records within 24 hours. Even though the General Accounting Office found that destroying these records endangers public safety, the policy remains in effect.
MiltonMan forget to tell us that Bush and Ashcroft were libs! Them libs and their guns!
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
9:59 am
I know dems are proud to be represented by this loon…. Bring back McKinney… LOL….
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/congressman-makes-most-non-rousing-case-for-being-world-citizens/
the cat
July 19th, 2012
9:59 am
JKL2-actually you are one of the delusional voters I am annoyed that gets to vote. I include but not limited to Mighty Righty, Joseph, 0311, etc.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 19th, 2012
9:59 am
Joe Hussein Mama:
Nixon did some stupid things as we all know.
That doesn’t change the fact that once a
bureaucracy is established ………. it becomes entrenched !!!
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
10:00 am
Obama’s got so much on his plate…. You know like playing golf and campaigning…
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/jay-carneys-actual-response-to-jobs-council-not-meeting-obama-has-a-lot-on-his-plate/
stands for decibels (SfBA)
July 19th, 2012
10:00 am
Works in Kenesaw [sic]
might want to read the actual
pathetic publicity stuntstatute and realize there’s no actual requirement whatsoever, there.Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.
so basically you have to own a gun, unless you don’t want to.
GT
July 19th, 2012
10:00 am
“NRA teaches common sense and safety with weaponry.”
And the Klan teaches how to do laundry. Rambo is a factious character like Santa Claus, sorry to burst you bubble.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 19th, 2012
10:00 am
the gunman approached the Copper Top bar in Tuscaloosa just after midnight and opened fire through a window with a “military-style assault weapon.” The shooter also fired on people fleeing and then walked away himself.
But of course if one of those people inside the building had just been armed….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 19th, 2012
10:00 am
luangtom :
Thank you.
Vigilance !
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
10:01 am
Joseph — “I know dems are proud to be represented by this loon…. Bring back McKinney… LOL….”
Now, who’s rambling? Is it possible for you to stay on topic?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 19th, 2012
10:01 am
“But of course if one of those people inside the building had just been armed…. ”
Maybe ………… better than nothing.
TaxPayer
July 19th, 2012
10:01 am
“I’ll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead lib hands!” – Charlton Heston in Planet of the Gun-toting Libs.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 19th, 2012
10:02 am
Keep Up the Good Fight:
You know I assume that the military issues pistols as a last defense against someone with an AK-47.
stands for decibels (SfBA)
July 19th, 2012
10:02 am
I am mostly upset that these delusional people vote.
…and breed, and expect us to pay for their radical clerics to indoctrinate their little’uns.
Willie
July 19th, 2012
10:03 am
It’s hard for Jay and his lefty friends to appreciate freedom. Bookman has never cared about liberty or freedom, only government control. When those of us who don’t like the rising level of government control buy guns, it never occurs to Jay to solve the problem, only to regulate the response. Pretty soon life will come with a ten thousand page rule book that Jay and the democrats draft to keep the rest of us in line. It’s what collectivists have always done when actual people don’t properly appreciate the “workers paradise” that the elites have created for them.
To Jay, there are no problems that more rules can’t fix.
No thanks Jay. I don’t want to live in your worker’s utopian hell hole.
Jefferson
July 19th, 2012
10:03 am
All handgun owners are paranoid.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 19th, 2012
10:03 am
Joseph
July 19th, 2012
9:24 am
I figured you would like that. Send all those guns to Mexico, let them kill bunches of Mexicans and then there would be less illegals coming over our borders for you to worry about…
Thomas
July 19th, 2012
10:03 am
No time to read the blog as I am “Fast and Furious”…..
Joe Hussein Mama
July 19th, 2012
10:03 am
0311 — “Joe Hussein Mama: Nixon did some stupid things as we all know. ”
Right. For example, he set up the Department of Energy. Maybe you should look into the crap you post, rather than being so credulous.
“That doesn’t change the fact that once a bureaucracy is established ………. it becomes entrenched !!!”
You know, if you hadn’t just ranted about the DOE and Carter and ZOMGDADGUMLIBRULSINMAHGUBMINT, I might be willing to meet you halfway in this discussion. But when I pointed out that it was Nixon, not Carter, who largely SET UP the DoE, off you go with the handwaving and dismissing.
If the DoE was such a crappy thing, then SHARPEN YOUR AIM and BLAME THE RIGHT GUY.
JamVet
July 19th, 2012
10:04 am
Guns don’t kill people, Slimy right wing fanatics and chickenhawks like James Adkisson strolling into churches do.
Too bad about those innocent liberal women and children, huh cons?
And too bad he feasted on a steady diet of hatred and vicarious violence from his cowardly heroes Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.
The only real surprise is that it hasn’t happened more often….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 19th, 2012
10:04 am
Well ……….. this deserve another post:
A: Guns have only two enemies – rust and liberal Democrats.
B: It’s always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
C: Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.
D: Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arms length.
E: Never say “I’ve got a gun.” If you need to use deadly force, the first (and last) sound they hear should be “boom, boom” (double tap always).
F: The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes, the response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.
G: The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win – cheat if necessary.