Romney camp toying with symbolic birtherism

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A screengrab from DrudgeReport.com, the conservative id, highlighting accusations from Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio that President Obama's birth certificate is undoubtedly a fake. It is complete with links to World Net Daily, which gleefully reports Arpaio's claim that this information "threatens to weaken national security.”

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John Sununu, a prominent spokesman for the Romney campaign, says that he is sorry for his remark Tuesday morning that “I wish this president would learn how to be an American.”

I do not for a moment believe that Sununu is sorry about that remark. Quite the contrary, he said what he intended to say and what the Romney campaign had instructed him to say.

After all, in a separate appearance Tuesday morning on Fox News, Sununu said much the same thing in slightly different words, claiming that Obama “has no idea how the American system functions. And we shouldn’t be surprised about that, because he spent his early years in Hawaii smoking something, spent another set of years in Indonesia.”

How is that functionally different from the comments for which he apologized?

Later that same day, Romney himself accused Obama of wanting to “change the nature of America,” claiming that “his course is extraordinarily foreign.” If Sununu’s statement had been a mistake and the campaign was truly chagrined by it, there is no way Romney would have publicly reinforced it.

In other words, Obama’s “otherness” was the Romney campaign’s message of the day. Their goal was to not to discuss Obama’s economic policies, but to cast their opponent as “extraordinarily foreign” and unAmerican in the eyes of voters. It is a slightly more subtle form of the lunacy playing out in the Drudge screengrab posted above.

That, in turn, is a sign of danger and weakness within the Romney campaign.

In the last couple of weeks, Romney has come under harsh attack from the Obama campaign, both in speeches and statements by Obama and in campaign ads airing in swing states. He hasn’t responded well. In fact, Romney’s inability to either defend himself or change the subject has brought also harsh condemnation from the GOP right, which is fearful that he is repeating the mistakes of John McCain.
For example, Byron York, in a much-publicized piece headlined “How Did Vaunted Romney Death Star Break Down?“, complains that “the Romney campaign is not displaying the super-aggressive effectiveness it showed in the primaries” against his fellow Republicans. If Romney doesn’t regain “the back-against-the-wall fighting spirit he had in the Florida primary,” York writes, “the Obama campaign will run over him.”

It has become an article of faith on the conservative right that in 2008, McCain lost because he did not play rough and did not fight back. He didn’t raise questions about Obama’s citizenship, about his patriotism, about Obama’s alleged goal of destroying America as we know it, about his ties to terrorists, etc. The conservative right is quite convinced that raising such allegations before the general public is the path to victory, because it matches so closely to what they themselves already believe.

The statements by Sununu and Romney on Tuesday were intended to reassure nervous conservatives that yes, they get it. However, to the degree that the Romney campaign is pushed closer to the lunatic fringe as a means of proving its toughness to its own base, it will lose. Popular as it is among conservatives, it simply is not an argument likely to convince the swing and independent voters who will decide this race. As the backlash to Sununu’s statement suggests, it is likely to do the opposite.

In fact, I suspect the Obama campaign is pushing the Romney folks hard for just that reason, hoping to provoke them to overreact. They know that the GOP base is pushing Romney in that same direction, and they too must have noticed that one of the striking attributes of the Romney campaign has been its inability to deny the right what it demands.

In other words, yesterday’s “slip” may become tomorrow’s campaign theme, and if that happens it will make the Obama campaign very very happy.

– Jay Bookman

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Chas Holman

July 18th, 2012
12:11 pm

It’s all they have..

The once Grand Old Party has been reduced to petulance inspired ‘tit for tat’..

Keep Up the Good Fight!

July 18th, 2012
12:11 pm

OriginalTP

July 18th, 2012
12:14 pm

SSHH! Don’t give them any ideas. One of these times they are going to look around at the hole they have been digging and realize it is a burial pit.

ty webb

July 18th, 2012
12:16 pm

hey look, Jay’s been watching MSNBC.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

July 18th, 2012
12:16 pm

We have already seen that pandering to the lunatic fringe means that the “elected official” will continue to pander if they take office….. and after seeing the tea party craziness, independents and swing voters know that only the weak pander and flip and flop. Mitt is weak.

Jefferson

July 18th, 2012
12:17 pm

IRS should look into the good sheriff’s returns.

Goldie

July 18th, 2012
12:20 pm

woo-hoo! The Mitt is trying his best to show his “true colors” to the GOP, and birtherism is what they want, so birtherism is what it’ll be — bring it Idjits!

:)

ragnar danneskjold

July 18th, 2012
12:20 pm

If the Obama administration would give the House of Representative the 90% of the “Fast and Furious” documents currently withheld, I would think Obama committed to Americanism – respect for our system of checks and balances, and hopefully proof that Holder and company were not conspiring to break laws for a perverse purpose. As is, Sununu has it right.

They BOTH suck

July 18th, 2012
12:20 pm

I doubt it will play the role it did last time, but it will be under the surface and on the fringes even though Romney will distance himself from it; at least I think he will.

It will work as well as last time.

Joe Hussein Mama

July 18th, 2012
12:20 pm

T. Webb — “hey look, Jay’s been watching MSNBC.”

If you’d been out from under your rock since last week, you’d realize that MSNBC doesn’t exist any more.

Goldie

July 18th, 2012
12:22 pm

Yep, the Cons are in full headlock with Oxycontin Limbaugh and his “advice” for The Mitt now, just like we knew would happen!

:)

Brosephus™

July 18th, 2012
12:23 pm

I guess we’re about to witness a flameout of epic proportions. When you can only rally the fringe, your campaign is in trouble.

the cat

July 18th, 2012
12:23 pm

I submit the name of Oliver North to run as Romoney’s VP.

DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism is Capitalists...

July 18th, 2012
12:23 pm

You guys should’ve heard that nutzo Boortz this morning!! He had a field day with this topic!

God help him, I think the man has finally gone insane on an over indulgence of a daily dose of hate.

they’re all suffering from ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome).

“The Death Penalty For PSU Should Only Be The Tip Of The Iceberg”.

ty webb

July 18th, 2012
12:23 pm

“if you’d been out from under your rock since last week, you’d realize that MSNBC doesn’t exist any more.”

you might want to check that…I don’t want to be rude, but you appear to have no idea what you’re talking about…and my rock is fairly comfortable.

East Lake Ira

July 18th, 2012
12:24 pm

This is going to be one of the greatest elections ever if Romney goes down this road.

I really really hope he does.

We’ll see signs from the floor in Tampa that read:

SHOW ME THE REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE

SOCIALISM = OBAMA

GO HOME KENYAN

etc… That’ll really pull in the Independants.

Please please please!!!

Jay

July 18th, 2012
12:25 pm

Ty, I honestly have no idea what channel MSNBC could be found on. Other than on election nights and other major events, I watch none of the news channels and none of the talking head shows. When they don’t offend me with their stupidity they bore me with their inanity, and I mean that of all of them.

Joe Hussein Mama

July 18th, 2012
12:27 pm

E-V.com updated, and Obama gaining ground.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Cons, what was that about the Bain attacks not getting traction?

ty webb

July 18th, 2012
12:27 pm

Jay,
they’ve been selling this “otherness” meme since Obama’s inauguration…so I trust you when you say that you don’t watch them…perhaps y’all just share the same “sources”.

the cat

July 18th, 2012
12:28 pm

MSNBC is now known as NBCNews

SwamiDave

July 18th, 2012
12:28 pm

PrezBO in his own words is the best campaigner for Romney!

The quasi-Marxist droning of how achievers have not earned what they have achieved is unAmerican. It is a political theology by, of, and for losers seeking to take credit from those who accomplish things to those who did not. Quite possibly, if PrezBO had ever accomplished anything of merit under the American economic system (besides exist in one form or another subsisting off / redistributing that which is produced by others), he would have a perspective of how Main Street America works than he does.

It circles to the secondary reality that (regardless of what the liberal shills would have you think) most Americans are more interested in what PrezBO does with taxpayer money than what Romney does with his own.

-SD

Goldie

July 18th, 2012
12:28 pm

And I seem to recall how well the “Obama pals around with terrrrists” meme worked out for the GOP in 2008… as goes birther-gate, too!

:)

Mr. 0bvious

July 18th, 2012
12:30 pm

Barry 0bama has been “WEAKENING U.S. NATIONAL SECURTY” for over 3 years now.

Is this really news?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

July 18th, 2012
12:31 pm

…most Americans are more interested in what PrezBO does with taxpayer money than what Romney does with his own.

The most oft repeated meme in the past week.

Joe Hussein Mama

July 18th, 2012
12:31 pm

T. Webb — “you might want to check that…”

Actually, *you’d* better check it, Champ. MSNBC ceased to exist over the weekend.

“I don’t want to be rude, but you appear to have no idea what you’re talking about…”

No, that’s not rude at all. Especially considering *you* have no idea what you’re talking about. :D

“and my rock is fairly comfortable.”

Flat and warm, huh? Just what you need to bask in the sun?

HDB

July 18th, 2012
12:31 pm

The problem is that Romney can’t push back from its own screwup — not getting on top of his tax returns and Bain!! This should be evident how Romney handles issues: taxes were a problem when Romney faced Kennedy in his Senate run and his gubernatorial run in Massachussetts; Bain has been a problem since Romney signed papers to the SEC while supposedly “retired”. Romnmey has been running for President for EIGHT YEARS…and if John McCain saw 26 YEARS of Romney’s returns and chose Sarah Palin for VEEP…..something’s being HIDDEN…….and Romney has yet to fix that!! If Romney handles his personal issues like this…can you imagine how he’d handle the Presidency????

getalife

July 18th, 2012
12:31 pm

They desperately need a distraction from willard’s tax forms.

Joe Hussein Mama

July 18th, 2012
12:32 pm

K’Chak — “The most oft repeated meme in the past week.”

Indeed. And repeated this time by a blog-flogger.

ZoSo

July 18th, 2012
12:32 pm

Jay @ 12:25

So true.

Mr. 0bvious

July 18th, 2012
12:32 pm

When opened with that application, ADOBE software doesn’t have any difficulty in processing 0bama’s long-form birth certificate, released (& created) in 2011, because ADOBE was used to create that document from scratch in the first place.

Recon 0311 2533

July 18th, 2012
12:32 pm

“In fact, I suspect the Obama campaign is pushing the Romney folks hard for just that reason, hoping to provoke them to overreact. They know that the GOP base is pushing Romney in that same direction, and they too must have noticed that one of the striking attributes of the Romney campaign has been its inability to deny the right what it demands.”

Jay’s entire commentary was rambling and betrays desperation. Obama’s attack campaign hasn’t produced any result just like his presidency. Check the national polls, after all the money over 100 million spent on attack ads, Obama hasn’t moved up one bit in the polls. The Democrats might be fearing Romney’s recent counterattack.

They BOTH suck

July 18th, 2012
12:34 pm

As I stated, I expect Romney’s camp to distance themselves, especially if this issue gains much traction. I doubt it will and I really hope it doesn’t.

If does gain much traction and Romney is silent, you know what is coming……………….

“See you at the Iowa State Fair: Still Trying, Romney 2016″

That will be on the back of the t-shirt. On the front will be a picture of him eating a funnel cake.

Bumper sticker:

“Let’s try this one more time. Romney 2016″

Goldie

July 18th, 2012
12:34 pm

“can you imagine how he’d handle the Presidency????”

No I honestly cannot, HDB — too scary to consider! And we don’t need to go down the same ole road as the failed Voodoo Economic policies that have been heaved upon us for the past 30 years!

Forward America! :)

Recon 0311 2533

July 18th, 2012
12:35 pm

Joe is singing Tanenbaum Oh Tanenbaum again.

Mr. 0bvious

July 18th, 2012
12:35 pm

By the way, 0bama’s demographic designation of “African-American” on that computer-generated did not become part of the demographic lexicon or appear as an option on any standardized government-approved forms, until at least a decade after The Great Jive-Talker’s alleged date of birth.

Brosephus™

July 18th, 2012
12:35 pm

http://www.dailytech.com/The+Breakup+NBC+Buys+Microsofts+50+Stake+in+MSNBCcom/article25176.htm

As of Sunday night, MSNBC.com became NBCnews.com ending the partnership that has spanned well over a decade. NBC paid Microsoft about $300 million for its 50% share in the website according to sources cited by the New York Times. Sources close to the deal weren’t allowed to speak on the record. The full purchase price is not being disclosed.

Didn’t know that until I googled it. The things I learn from conversations here.

Not to mention the site you get to when you click here http://www.msnbc.com/

playthatfunkymusicwhiteboy

July 18th, 2012
12:35 pm

Overheard in Spalding County… “Better a Kenyan than a Mormon”.

Does Romney have ANYONE on his team from this region of the country? If he did, he would understand that unless he convinces the evangelicals that Obama is truly the anti-christ and “Mormon is no different than Methodist” he’s got little shot getting them to vote at all. Forget this “birther” crap.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

July 18th, 2012
12:35 pm

oy vey, the desperation card. :roll: How silly.

Joseph

July 18th, 2012
12:35 pm

What the hell has Oblama producing a fake birth certificate have to do with Romney? I swear Jay you fruits will resort to anything to cover for this failed President…

Brosephus™

July 18th, 2012
12:35 pm

the cat

July 18th, 2012
12:35 pm

They both-I would like to place an order for a bumper sticker or 2! Too funny

FrankLeeDarling

July 18th, 2012
12:36 pm

Yeah! Bring back the Birthers those guys are a hoot !

(funny when I was typing the word Birthers my spell chech kept trying to change the word to
Birchers)

Mr. 0bvious

July 18th, 2012
12:37 pm

Careful with That Hot Fire of Truth, Sheriff Joe!

If you aren’t already, you don’t want to wind up on Barry’s “Secret Kill List,” do you?

Goldie

July 18th, 2012
12:37 pm

I encourage all evangelicals to sit this one out in November — better play it safe and not vote for the Mormon-devil! :)

They BOTH suck

July 18th, 2012
12:37 pm

the cat

Order has been placed

I’m partial to the t shirt.

ATL

July 18th, 2012
12:38 pm

There is something particularly idiotic about smearing a man as “un-American” who is the literal embodiment of the American dream. Oh but nevermind, Conservatives are having a good old freak out realizing Mitt can’t win. The man can’t even explain his own business career. And the tax returns? Oi Vey.

Goldie

July 18th, 2012
12:38 pm

FLDarling @ 12:36 — yep, Birthers and Birchers are one and the same! :)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

July 18th, 2012
12:39 pm

If I can just get a photo of Romney standing with Orly and Cheney, I can make millions :D

They BOTH suck

July 18th, 2012
12:39 pm

“3rd time could be the trick. Romney 2016″

Again, I doubt he will get close to that fire if it grows.

Mr. 0bvious

July 18th, 2012
12:40 pm

J.R. Ewing for President!

Could J.R. REALLY be any worse than either of these clowns?

Maybe with the aid of Viagra, at least he could probably seduce the German Chancellor into giving us whatever we wanted.

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 18th, 2012
12:40 pm

Goldie

July 18th, 2012
12:40 pm

Oi Vey, ATL! The Cons are a real laugh-riot these days — their heads explode everytime Our President is speaking from the presidential podium!

:)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

July 18th, 2012
12:40 pm

Romney has enough baggage without adding birtherism to it.

If he keeps this up, they really will throw him under the bus just to nominate someone that has a semblance of a chance.

ty webb

July 18th, 2012
12:40 pm

Joe Mama,
Microsoft dropping out of their relationship with MSNBC, doesn’t mean that MSNBC ceases to exist…MSNBC.com(a different entity than the channel) will temporarily redirect you to NBCnews.com…however, a new MSNBC.com(again, different than the channel) will relaunch later…MSNBC exists now and will continue to exist…again, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Joe Hussein Mama

July 18th, 2012
12:41 pm

Mr. O — “When opened with that application, ADOBE software doesn’t have any difficulty in processing 0bama’s long-form birth certificate, released (& created) in 2011, because ADOBE was used to create that document from scratch in the first place.”

Are y’all still spinning this long-debunked bulldada?

It must irritate the living heck out of y’all that Hawaii’s Republican Governor validated and verified Obama’s long-form BC before the election in 2008. The part y’all miss is that by law, Hawaii doesn’t release long-forms to ANYONE except the individual the BC belongs to.

weetamoe

July 18th, 2012
12:41 pm

Only someone like Stephanie Cutter could have come up with the *symbolic birtherism* epithet. However if it is to become a common slur among democrats, it might be instructive to remember who first came up with the implications about Obama’s place of birth and religious belief–and it was not a republican.

Joe Hussein Mama

July 18th, 2012
12:42 pm

Brosephus — “link is actually”

No, it’s not. Check the URL window when it resolves and see where it’s pointed.

HDB

July 18th, 2012
12:42 pm

Mr. 0bvious

July 18th, 2012
12:32 pm

Obviously….you don’t read much!!

Hawaii: Obama birth certificate is real
Updated 7/28/2009 7:41 PM

In an attempt to quash persistent rumors that President Obama was not born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, Hawaii’s health director reiterated Monday afternoon that she has personally seen Obama’s birth certificate in the Health Department’s archives:

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago….”

On Oct. 31, Fukino originally tried to put an end to the belief among “birthers” that Obama was born in Kenya and thus was ineligible to run for the office of president.

Despite Fukino’s statements, the issue has continued to resonate from Capitol Hill to the national airwaves.

Last week, CNN’s Lou Dobbs demanded Obama’s original birth certificate. CNN/U.S. President Jon Klein told staffers of Lou Dobbs Tonight that the issue is a “dead” story, Kline told the Los Angeles Times in an interview published Sunday.

In an e-mail, the Times reported, Klein wrote that CNN researchers determined that Obama’s 1961 birth certificate no longer exists because Hawaiian officials had discarded paper documents in 2001 — a claim denied Monday by Hawaiian health officials.

In 2001, Hawaii’s paper documents were reproduced in electronic format, but “any paper data prior to that still exists,” Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.

Okubo would not say where Obama’s original birth certificate is but said, “We have backups for all of our backups.”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_n.htm

getalife

July 18th, 2012
12:43 pm

joey should investigate what willard is hiding.

joey lost the Independent vote.

Thanks joey.

East Lake Ira

July 18th, 2012
12:43 pm

Jeremiah Wright!

Saul Alinsky!!

Tony Rezko!!!

Kenyan!!!!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

July 18th, 2012
12:43 pm

Joe, I don’t think Hawaii even releases long form certificated to the individual named. Obama’s team had to ask Hawaii to make a special exception to get the “long-form.”

They BOTH suck

July 18th, 2012
12:43 pm

“Hello. It is me……… again. Romney 2016″

ty webb

July 18th, 2012
12:44 pm

Brosephus,
don’t know if you were directing that at me, but MSNBC.COM is different than MSNBC the channel. Plus, the new MSNBC.COM will launch in 2013.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

July 18th, 2012
12:44 pm

Well, we been hoodwinked with that so-called birth certificate! I might of knowed it! We got a Socialist Kenyan Muslim Marxist in the White House that needs to come out of there. If Sheriff Joe says it’s so then it must be so. He knows how to deal with these crooks—put a pair of pink undershorts on them and make them live in tents without air conditioning.

We need to put Obama in with those Atlanta teachers that tried to hoodwink us after we paid them thousands of bucks in bonuses for fake improvement. The nerve of that crook!

Mr. 0bvious

July 18th, 2012
12:44 pm

Why was Barry 0bama trying to assume the Social Security # of a person in Connecticut, anyway?

Issued SS#s have specific numeric formats based on the State of Birth to which they are issued.

Therefore, Barry’s ID theft stood out like a sore thumb.

arnold

July 18th, 2012
12:44 pm

I do think the Democrats have to fear the nut case right somewhat. They are more fanatical and driven than the Democrats. There just may be enough to elect Mitt.

Joe Hussein Mama

July 18th, 2012
12:44 pm

T. Webb — “Microsoft dropping out of their relationship with MSNBC, doesn’t mean that MSNBC ceases to exist…”

It already *has* ceased to exist. Give Microsoft’s legal department a call and see what they have to say about it. (laughing) :D

“MSNBC.com(a different entity than the channel) will temporarily redirect you to NBCnews.com…however, a new MSNBC.com(again, different than the channel) will relaunch later…”

Clearly implying that it doesn’t exist NOW. (laughing) :D

“MSNBC exists now and will continue to exist…again, you don’t know what you’re talking about.”

Ty, ty, ty, you’ve got to drink more coffee in the morning and get more sleep at night. I can’t be constantly bringing you up to speed on everything. :D

Jay

July 18th, 2012
12:45 pm

weetamoe, google confirms that I’m the first to use “symbolic birtherism.”

You think I should trademark it?

Brosephus™

July 18th, 2012
12:46 pm

JHM

I did a yahoo search for MSNBC, and the link in their return shows the one I typed. I saw that it was redirected. Just trying to show that MSNBC is now NBC. Hard to be MSNBC when the MS portion bailed out. :)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

July 18th, 2012
12:46 pm

I heard a comment recently: while Romney is clearly an experience politician, he has only won 1 election to date….

Fear cons fear! :lol:

ty webb

July 18th, 2012
12:46 pm

Joe Mama,
smiley faces don’t excuse your repeatedly displayed ignorance…again, you do not know what you’re talking about.

They BOTH suck

July 18th, 2012
12:46 pm

If Romney doesn’t win and he goes right into campaigning mode as he basically did after the last election, someone needs to call the Guinness World Book of Record folks.

There has to be a record for the longest campaign without ever winning the WH.

But we will see. Long way before November.

Mr. 0bvious

July 18th, 2012
12:47 pm

HDB @ 12:42 pm,

You got some MAD Copy-and-Paste SKILLZ, Dawg!

(Too bad that article you pasted is dated 2 years BEFORE last year’s newest forgery was made public.)

Keep it Real, KDB!

getalife

July 18th, 2012
12:47 pm

“Dems Propose Bill Requiring Presidential Candidates To Release Tax Returns” Aol.

Show us your papers willard. Now.

Joe Hussein Mama

July 18th, 2012
12:47 pm

KUTGF — “Joe, I don’t think Hawaii even releases long form certificated to the individual named. Obama’s team had to ask Hawaii to make a special exception to get the “long-form.”

They will, but the procedure has gotten more difficult recently. The Hawaii state assembly actually granted the authority to the state department of vital records to refuse requests for records which were, in the department’s judgment, harassing, unwarranted or repetitious. The good people of the state of Hawaii don’t like outsiders coming in and telling them how to run their affairs any more than the good people of the state of Georgia would.

Filter

July 18th, 2012
12:48 pm

I, for one, welcome this line of attack. Insular thinking seems to have become a particular problem with the right. They are constantly surrounded by like minds, watch a lot of Fox News at home and even when they are out and about need only turn on am radio to have every “Marxist” “socialist” “Kenyan” “un-American” “out to destroy America” thought reinforced.

Pretty soon they begin to believe that everyone else thinks as they do and that these very fringe ideas are actually part of the mainstream. After all, everyone they know thinks the same things and the rest of us are just liberal nutjobs. This is how you get to the point where an entire segment of the population is willing to state, with the full force of faith in the Gospel that anyone who would vote for the President is “ignorant”, “unintelligent”, “uninformed”, or “just plain bought off by government handouts”.

They cannot seem to grasp that there is more than one viewpoint on the best direction for this Country and adherence to one over the other, be it right or left, may be a point of disagreement for you but it says nothing about the true base nature of the person holding that allegiance.

Groupthink and an insular nature will continue to separate the right from the mainstream to the point of irrelevance.

They BOTH suck

July 18th, 2012
12:48 pm

birther alert

birther alert @ 12:44

Joseph

July 18th, 2012
12:48 pm

Why can’t Oblama just produce a legitimate birth certificate????

Brosephus™

July 18th, 2012
12:48 pm

You think I should trademark it?

Yuuuuuuupppppppp!!!!!!

:)

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ty

I wasn’t directing that at you. Until you and JHM talked about it, I had no idea. I generally avoid MSNBC and FOX when it comes to news reporting as I can’t stand their biases. I prefer actual news journalism instead of opinionating masquerading as journalism.

Joe Hussein Mama

July 18th, 2012
12:49 pm

T. Webb — “Joe Mama, smiley faces don’t excuse your repeatedly displayed ignorance…”

Punkin, what you call an “excuse” is me laughing at you. (giggling) :D

“again, you do not know what you’re talking about.”

What’d the Microsoft legal department tell you, Cowboy? (laughing) :D

bookman parrot

July 18th, 2012
12:49 pm

Jay,
I knew you would bring this up today.
I’ll reiterate a point before, that you and yours would NOT care if turned out BHO was not legit.

Goldie

July 18th, 2012
12:49 pm

Bring it Cons! You’re arguing with a Con governor of Hawaii, ya know!

:)

Michael

July 18th, 2012
12:50 pm

The GOP wrote the book on dirty politics, but when someone attacks them they whine like stuck pigs. This not so subtle racism can be directly attributed to people like Sarah Palin and the rise of the Tea-Party, too bad the Republicans (and especially Romney) are two cowardly and morally bankrupt to nip it in the bud.

Obama/Biden 2012!

Brosephus™

July 18th, 2012
12:51 pm

Jay

Just googled your term and every response points back to the AJC. :)

http://tinyurl.com/78xpe38

Seven results so far.

Butch Cassidy (I)

July 18th, 2012
12:51 pm

I demand that Sheriff Joe explain his hair immediately! ;)

Joe Hussein Mama

July 18th, 2012
12:51 pm

Joseph — “Why can’t Oblama just produce a legitimate birth certificate????”

He did.

Why can’t y’all accept that Hawaii Governor Linda Lingle (Republican) verified and validated it before the 2008 election even happened?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

July 18th, 2012
12:52 pm

Jay

Whatever happened to David What’shisname that kept a birther thread of yours open for days?

Brosephus™

July 18th, 2012
12:52 pm

barking frog

July 18th, 2012
12:52 pm

Social Security Numbers
show the SS region they are
issued in. Nothing to do
with the SS region where
you are born unless they
coincide.

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 18th, 2012
12:52 pm

“Romney 2016″

Yes

He will want a second term

weetamoe

July 18th, 2012
12:52 pm

Just looked for a link to Drudge to see what the heck Bookman was talking about . There are a lot of
(in Obamaspeak a whole bunch) links to items he apparently prefers to overlook. Nice bit of misdirection, this venture into the ludicrous— *symbolic birtherism* indeed.

Adam

July 18th, 2012
12:52 pm

IT’S A TRAP!

ty webb

July 18th, 2012
12:53 pm

Joe mama,
okay, my sincere apologies…the smiley faces explain your repeatedly displayed ignorance.

ragnar danneskjold

July 18th, 2012
12:53 pm

Speaking of symbols, today is the 43rd anniversary of the death of Mary Jo Kopechne – symbolic of the death of decency among democrats.

Adam

July 18th, 2012
12:53 pm

ty: hey look, Jay’s been watching MSNBC.

Hey look, ty doesn’t have a counter argument :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A dad

July 18th, 2012
12:53 pm

Given the cries for Romney to cough up more tax returns, I think it only fair for Obama to produce his actual live birth certificate (and no, I’m not a birther, I’m just arguing quid pro quo on this issue). I mean, really now, if the POTUS can’t get a copy of his actual paper birth certificate from Hawaii can we really expect this guy to turn the economy around?

TaxPayer

July 18th, 2012
12:53 pm

Republicans are looking for the sympathy vote. “Look who we picked to be our presidential candidate and even worse look at the original lineup that we had to pick from. You should feel sorry for us and vote for Romney.”

Adam

July 18th, 2012
12:54 pm

If the Obama administration would give the House of Representative the 90% of the “Fast and Furious” documents currently withheld, I would think Obama committed to Americanism

I call bullsh*t.

barking frog

July 18th, 2012
12:54 pm

Jm
good comeback.

the cat

July 18th, 2012
12:54 pm

The stupid, still burns.