National Review to Romney: Release the tax returns
You know, when even the editors of the highly conservative National Review are willing to take the GOP presidential nominee to task for not releasing his tax returns, the debate is pretty much over:
“The Romney campaign says he has released as many returns as candidate John Kerry did in 2004, and cites Teresa Heinz Kerry’s refusal to release any of her tax returns. Neither is an apt comparison. John Kerry actually released returns from 1999 through 2003, and also released tax returns during his Senate runs. As for Teresa Heinz, Romney isn’t the wealthy spouse of a candidate, but the candidate himself. In 2008, John McCain released two years of returns, but he had been filling out financial disclosure forms for decades as a senator. Romney protests that he is not legally obliged to release any tax returns. Of course not. He is no longer in the realm of the private sector, though, where he can comply with the letter of the law with the Securities and Exchange Commission and leave it at that. Perceptions matter.
Romney may feel impatience with requirements that the political culture imposes on a presidential candidate that he feels are pointless (and inconvenient). But he’s a politician running for the highest office in the land, and his current posture is probably unsustainable. In all likelihood, he won’t be able to maintain a position that looks secretive and is a departure from campaign conventions.”
In other words, get it all out and get it over with, because this current stance is unsustainable. But of course, the more stubbornly Romney refuses to follow the advice even of his friends and supporters, the more suspicious his behavior becomes. This is something that he should have handled back during the primaries, or at the very least right after clinching the nomination.
You do have to wonder why he hasn’t.
– Jay Bookman
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josef
July 17th, 2012
5:31 pm
IMAM
WORKS EVERY TIME!!!!
But thanks…downstairs was getting plumb nasty…
Lucifer
July 17th, 2012
5:32 pm
Either he releases his returns or loses the election. This issue is NOT going away!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
5:35 pm
The cons are throwing Romney under the bus so they can pick someone else.
getalife
July 17th, 2012
5:36 pm
Lets guess what willard is hiding.
Launder for the drug cartels is my guess.
josef
July 17th, 2012
5:37 pm
“Of course not. He is no longer in the realm of the private sector, though, where he can comply with the letter of the law with the Securities and Exchange Commission and leave it at that. Perceptions matter.”
My point on the whole megillah. Does this mean I’m a conservative?
Chas Holman
July 17th, 2012
5:37 pm
Governor Romney’s new campaign song..
I Fell Into A Burning Ring Of Fire
I Went Down, Down, Down
And The Flames Went Higher
And It Burns, Burns, Burns
The Ring Of Fire
The Ring Of Fire
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 17th, 2012
5:38 pm
josef @4:41 pm
Showing my age here,
from downstairs catching up here
———————————————————————–
Yes we are sir LOL
manster
July 17th, 2012
5:39 pm
release your birth certificate and i will release my tax………..uhh nevermind!!!
JohnnyReb
July 17th, 2012
5:40 pm
Obviously, Romney needs to take ques from Obama on how to hide things.
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 17th, 2012
5:40 pm
Only little people pay taxes
- the king of greed
PJ
July 17th, 2012
5:41 pm
getalife @5:36 pm
You might have a point there after all the Caymans is when they keep their money too.
larry
July 17th, 2012
5:42 pm
Romney: Hey, ill tell you what. Ill release my birth certificate instead. That should shut everyone up.
JohnnyReb
July 17th, 2012
5:42 pm
“Does this mean I’m a conservative?”
Of course you are, although sometimes sheep stray from the fold. As long as you vote for Romney any trangressions will be forgiven.
OriginalTP
July 17th, 2012
5:44 pm
If John Kerry’s wife didn’t release her tax returns why should Ann Romney’s husband have to? This is yet another Liberal Double Standard!!!!
josef
July 17th, 2012
5:44 pm
COMMON SENSE
K’Chak
“The cons are throwing Romney under the bus so they can pick someone else.”
That thought had crossed my mind, too…I’m not sure how much of a chance they’ve got, though…it promises to be, uh, spirited, at the convention…sorta like the old Democrats, eh?
I’ll start paying closer attention when he names his VP pick…
ByteMe - Political thug
July 17th, 2012
5:45 pm
Real Americans don’t hide their money overseas.
ByteMe - Political thug
July 17th, 2012
5:45 pm
Release Ann Romney’s tax returns!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
5:46 pm
If John Kerry’s wife didn’t release her tax returns why should Ann Romney’s husband have to?
She did.
Teh stoopid, it burns!
Doggone/GA
July 17th, 2012
5:46 pm
“If John Kerry’s wife didn’t release her tax returns”
Actually…she did
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 17th, 2012
5:46 pm
interesting on msnbc sunday about Romney’s potential VP picks. The majority were Catholic’s. Makes me wonder how balanced the MITTSTER really is.
Union
July 17th, 2012
5:47 pm
squirrel.. squirrel.. squirrel
“Study says Obama tax proposals could cost 700,000 jobs”
squirrel.. squirrel.. squirrel
josef
July 17th, 2012
5:47 pm
Johnny Reb…
Oh, no, I’m not! You’re just a closet liberal! And me vote for a Republican? I’m a lot of things, but not a heretic! My Granny’s grey ghost would rise from the tomb and smite me if I ever voted for the Party of Diocletian of the Potomac…
ByteMe - Political thug
July 17th, 2012
5:47 pm
Study says Obama tax proposals could cost 700,000 jobs
More stupid. Need some ointment to make it go away.
carlosgvv
July 17th, 2012
5:49 pm
“you have to wonder why he hasn’t”
I would suggest that Romney’s refusal is a natural by-product of his upbringing and business career. Romney was born into a rich family, went to expensive schools and always had to best of everything.
In his business career, he was at the top and had, at his beck and call, the best lawyers and accountants to give him every tax break and dodge possible. Romney’s rich friends, naturally, has access to these same kinds of lawyers and accountants and used every tax shelter and dodge that was legal(and perhaps many that wern’t).
So, Romney’s mind set is that of a very wealthy man who doesn’t have to play by the same tax rules we more or less middle class do. This is so much a part of him that, amazingly, he seems to think, even as a Presidential candidate, that we should give him a free pass on this because he’s of the wealthy, upper crust class.
PJ
July 17th, 2012
5:50 pm
Romney /Cheney 2012
A tax cheat and a war criminal should go hand in hand.
Jay
July 17th, 2012
5:50 pm
“Of course not. He is no longer in the realm of the private sector, though, where he can comply with the letter of the law with the Securities and Exchange Commission and leave it at that. Perceptions matter.”
That’s also the point of the whole Bain thing. What Romney and Bain did was not by any means illegal, and you can make a strong argument that firing people is dirty work but in a capitalist economy striving for efficiency, somebody has to do it.
The question is whether voters will accept that “somebody” as their president, where a different set of rules and expectations apply.
ByteMe - Political thug
July 17th, 2012
5:50 pm
Romney’s already lost HUGE on this issue. He looks weak by demanding an apology, which he’ll never get. He looks secretive. He looks desperate to try to change the subject, so the Rightwingnuts invent a supposed “quote” taken completely out of context and try to change the meaning to fit their crazy narrative. Didn’t work.
My wife reads it this way: “He looks sleazy.”
Release the tax returns!
josef
July 17th, 2012
5:50 pm
Common Sense
I wish he’d pick Paul Babeu…that’d throw a monkey wrench in the machinery, now, wouldn’t it…Scout, Del and Company would have a heart attack…but they’d still vote for him…anything to get Obama out…
Union
July 17th, 2012
5:51 pm
carlosgvv
July 17th, 2012
5:49 pm
“So, Romney’s mind set is that of a very wealthy man who doesn’t have to play by the same tax rules we more or less middle class do.”
kind of like obamas sot?
USMC
July 17th, 2012
5:51 pm
“National Review to Romney: Release the tax returns”–JAY BOOKMAN
YES!
Please…. anything to take attention away from Caesar Obama’s record on the ECONOMY and UNEMPLOYMENT! LOL!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
5:52 pm
josef
I think it might not get as far as Romney announcing his VP pick.
If McCain saw four years ago what Romney’s now trying to hide and still chose Palin over Romney as his running mate, that tells me there is something politically damaging there.
It’s beginning to look like McCain may have revealed what he saw there, too.
getalife
July 17th, 2012
5:52 pm
Show us your papers willard.
Now.
JohnnyReb
July 17th, 2012
5:52 pm
Be careful josef, accussing me of being a closet liberal could cost you some credibility here. Besides, today I’m a racist, according to some.
ByteMe - Political thug
July 17th, 2012
5:53 pm
If you’re not clear on the point of all the Bain and tax return attacks, it’s this:
Romney isn’t running on anything at this point other than his business abilities. Not his governorship, not his running the Olympics. Nada. Just his time at Bain. Obama is turning that into a huge liability before Romney gets a chance to “introduce himself” at the convention. Leaving Romney absolutely nothing good to run on. It’s brilliant strategy and it’s working well so far. Romney looks completely ineffective trying to defend himself.
JamVet
July 17th, 2012
5:53 pm
The man is a farce. And unfit to lead.
The neocon’s Michael Dukakis.
His “principles” (LOL!) remind of…
http://tinyurl.com/bmxkjpx
JohnnyReb
July 17th, 2012
5:53 pm
You say Bain….I say GE
ByteMe - Political thug
July 17th, 2012
5:54 pm
You say Bain….I say GE
Really? Jack Welch is running for President??
USMC
July 17th, 2012
5:55 pm
OBAMA: The Private Sector is Doing Fine…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-RjdyQ3oNc
Tax Returns?????
YES! YES!….. Anything to take the attention away from Caesar Obama’s record.
getalife
July 17th, 2012
5:55 pm
I say Haliburton.
lynnie gal
July 17th, 2012
5:55 pm
Robme obviously made the calculation that releasing his tax returns will hurt him more than continuing to refuse to release them. I suspect it’s because there are years where he paid ZERO (-0-) income tax. What’s his next move? Announce the name of his V.P. so he can (attempt to) divert attention from his tax return/outsourcing issues. If he does actually release the returns, it will be late on a Friday afternoon before a holiday.
josef
July 17th, 2012
5:55 pm
JOHNNY REB
And being a liberal means you can’t be a racist, TOO?
K’CHAK
You do have a point there…he’s got a lot of baggage…has McCain spoken to why he didn’t choose him that you know of?
ty webb
July 17th, 2012
5:56 pm
He shouldn’t release anything.
ByteMe - Political thug
July 17th, 2012
5:56 pm
OBAMA: The Private Sector is Doing Fine…
Yep, the private sector doesn’t need government help… unless you’re a socialist who thinks that the government needs to meddle in the market. You’re not one of them, right?
JohnnyReb
July 17th, 2012
5:56 pm
BTW, and excuse me for venting, but the Meebo bar is a kissing cousin to my dislike of Barry. I buy a computer that will handle 64 bit windows and pay almost a hundred a month to Comcast for high speed, and low and behold the AJC makes my blogging slow with Meebo.
josef
July 17th, 2012
5:57 pm
LYNNIE
“If he does actually release the returns, it will be late on a Friday afternoon before a holiday.”
I think that’s a safe bet!
USMC
July 17th, 2012
5:58 pm
Obama: If you’ve got a business — you didn’t built that. Somebody else made that happen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-ZO7XOpwa8
The Bolshevik, Caesar Obama, relishing in his own NARCISSISM!
Obama is a JOKE; in WAY over his head!
tireofit
July 17th, 2012
5:59 pm
Come on, we all know these guys play by different rules. Who are we to question them?
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:00 pm
“National Review to Romney: Release the tax returns”–JAY BOOKMAN
Why do that…. I say Romney should just wait 3 YEARS to release the other Tax Returns…
JUST like Caesar Obama did with his “Birth Certificate”. LOL!
Jay
July 17th, 2012
6:00 pm
Just an FYI to the blog regulars, as of Friday I’ll be off for two weeks of fishing, rafting, hiking etc.
The week cannot end soon enough.
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:02 pm
“National Review to Romney: Release the tax returns”—JAY BOOKMAN
Does that make both National Review/Bill Kristol and JAY BOOKMAN……
…… “TAXERS”???
Jay
July 17th, 2012
6:02 pm
“Why do that…. I say Romney should just wait 3 YEARS to release the other Tax Returns…
Or, he could wait three years and declare that he was releasing them retroactively to July 16, 2012.
JamVet
July 17th, 2012
6:02 pm
2012 US Presidential Election – Winning Party
Democratic Party -160
Republican Party +130
http://sports.bovada.lv/sports-betting/political-props.jsp
Pony up your pennies Romney fans!
Easy money…
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:05 pm
“Just an FYI to the blog regulars, as of Friday I’ll be off for two weeks of fishing, rafting, hiking etc.
The week cannot end soon enough.”–JAY
No Comrade Bookman, the Party needs you. Your vacation has been denied. You are to report back to the Propaganda Room! LOL!
Sounds like a great vacation, Jay. You deserve it!
PJ
July 17th, 2012
6:05 pm
.I love in the commercial where he demands an apology from the President and it’s saying “There’s no evidence of wrong doing”. That’s precisely what the mouth piece says when his client is guilty. Somebody call Ben Matlock.
OriginalTP
July 17th, 2012
6:06 pm
USMC – Ha Ha Ha – that almost makes it sound like the president doesn’t respect hard work. Pretty funny quote there.
josef
July 17th, 2012
6:06 pm
A hundred years from now, the reference works will begin with “Barak Hussein Obama was the first (whatever we’ll be calling the melanin enhanced then) to be elected President of the United States of America.” If Romney is elected his will read “Willard Mitt Romney was the first Mormon to be elected President of the United States of America…” It’s a historic election and an exercise in trivial pursuit no matter how you slice it…
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:07 pm
“Just an FYI to the blog regulars, as of Friday I’ll be off for two weeks of fishing, rafting, hiking etc.
The week cannot end soon enough.”–JAY
What the heck are the “Welfare” Bloggers going to do with their time for two weeks???
(You know who you are!)
Jay
July 17th, 2012
6:08 pm
USMC:
In the immortal words of Rick Blaine, “Where I’m going, you can’t follow. What I’ve got to do, you can’t be any part of.”
:>)
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:08 pm
“USMC – Ha Ha Ha – that almost makes it sound like the president doesn’t respect hard work. Pretty funny quote there.”
The President let us in on how he really feels about himself….
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 17th, 2012
6:09 pm
josef@5:50 pm
Talk about assplodin heads
Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people
July 17th, 2012
6:10 pm
Obama is a shill for corporations and insurance companies
Let’s guess what he’s hiding behind all his closed door meetings even though he promised transparency
PJ
July 17th, 2012
6:11 pm
“Why do that…. I say Romney should just wait 3 YEARS to release the other Tax Returns…”
I agree, he won’t be president anyway.
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
6:11 pm
Release your long forms, Mitt. The truth shall set you free.
josef
July 17th, 2012
6:12 pm
“Just an FYI to the blog regulars, as of Friday I’ll be off for two weeks of fishing, rafting, hiking etc.
The week cannot end soon enough.”
Oh, dear…any takers on how long before the blog gets shut down? Whose the poor shmo down to the AJC who drew the lot of having to moderate this motley crew? Bless his (her) heart…
Anyway, have fun and get some R&R time in before heading into the homestretch for the election…
Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people
July 17th, 2012
6:12 pm
Obama is going to make us buy insurance
Obama is a corporatist
barking frog
July 17th, 2012
6:13 pm
McCain picking Palin was
not a show of Romney’s criminality but of McCain’s
stupidity.
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:13 pm
“In the immortal words of Rick Blaine, “Where I’m going, you can’t follow. What I’ve got to do, you can’t be any part of.””–JAY
Well if you say so Jay. I wouldn’t do that to you anyway. I want you to have a peaceful and enjoyable vacation after all of the stuff you put up with (from me) here on your blog.
I really owe you a swee+water 420 someday! And I promise to be well mannered.
(Maybe I will run into you at the Yacht Club, Elmyr, or BrewHaus sometime.)
JamVet
July 17th, 2012
6:13 pm
The day that Mitt Romney becomes President of the United States of America is the day that I will become president of the local Jews for Jesus chapter!
Which is to say…………………………………. never!
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 17th, 2012
6:13 pm
Jay
Are you going to put Kyle’s rules into effect or are you going to trust us?
Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people
July 17th, 2012
6:14 pm
Obama is going to make more profits for power companies
Obama = corporatist
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:16 pm
“Release your long forms, Mitt. The truth shall set you free.”
Someone sounds a little(a lot) jealous/envious of Mitten’s wealth.
(back to the trough, YOU!)
josef
July 17th, 2012
6:16 pm
ZamVet
Never say never…stranger things have happened…and given what’s already come down the pike this season, nothing would surprise me…
barking frog
July 17th, 2012
6:17 pm
Jm
Obama is Kenyanesian.
ByteMe - Political thug
July 17th, 2012
6:17 pm
McCain: I chose Palin instead of Romney “because we thought that Sarah Palin was the better candidate.”
Hahahahahahahahaha
Zebra
July 17th, 2012
6:17 pm
Romney is too stupid to be president if he doesn’t have anything to hide. This has gone way too long already and it is not going away.
ByteMe - Political thug
July 17th, 2012
6:18 pm
Obama is Kenyanesian
Excellent.
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:18 pm
“The day that Mitt Romney becomes President of the United States of America is the day that I will become president of the local Jews for Jesus chapter!”–AMVET
Jay, would you kindly file this away for after election day in November???
(I hope Amvet knows how to wear his Yarmulke!)
ByteMe - Political thug
July 17th, 2012
6:19 pm
Obama: “We released our tax returns. That’s how Kenyan’s do it. Can we trust a Mexican to do the same?”
Jay
July 17th, 2012
6:19 pm
I’ll leave the blog open, and will try to program two Fridays of music beforehand. How long it stays open will depend on whether they get complaints about behavior here, so … self-police!
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:21 pm
“Romney is too stupid to be president if he doesn’t have anything to hide. This has gone way too long already and it is not going away.”
Mitt…. Stupid???
Obama was a D+ student; only getting by through AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, and you can clearly see from his (lack of) policies that he is not very intelligent.
barking frog
July 17th, 2012
6:21 pm
Self police. That’s funnier
than self deport.
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 17th, 2012
6:22 pm
Jay
I understand that an ipad and fishing/rafting can lead to all kinds of problems
not to mention the alcohol that will be drunk
LOL
ByteMe - Political thug
July 17th, 2012
6:22 pm
and you can clearly see from his (lack of) policies that he is not very intelligent.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Show us YOUR Harvard Cum-Laude law degree. Or are you saying you’re not as intelligent?
F. Sinkwich
July 17th, 2012
6:25 pm
Okay, get the Mittster to release more tax returns.
Then let’s see O’bozo’s credentials as an American — not the old birth certificate thing, I mean in a state of mind kind of thing.
His parents were commies and he was raised as such.
He actively searched out Marxists, socialists, etc., in college for friends.
He’s never done anything to earn a real paycheck.
He says things like “now is not the time for profits.”
He calls our constitution, the greatest human freedom document ever written, as “negative.”
Wifey has never been proud of this country until he won an election.
He spent 20 years listening to “God damn America” in church.
His best buddy bombed government facilities.
O’bozo may be a US citizen, but he’s no American.
ByteMe - Political thug
July 17th, 2012
6:26 pm
His parents were commies and he was raised as such
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Teh stoopid is too funny tonight.
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:27 pm
Jerry Springer gushes about Obama
http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2012/07/jerry-springer-gushes-about-obama-129228.html
Jerry Springer Show LOVES Obama….. Are we surprised??? LOL! Par for the course.
That’s it! I could not put my finger on it…. The Jay’s daily Socialist blogheads(you know who you are) remind me of Jerry Springer’s show; same intelligence level and unemployed! LOL!
(And they mysteriously disappear in the afternoon during the show)
Erwin's cat
July 17th, 2012
6:27 pm
This is orchestrated….you guys don’t even recognize your own game?
josef
July 17th, 2012
6:28 pm
FROG
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
6:28 pm
Recon
reply to your 5:35 downstairs
The issue is not understanding or comprehending. I grew up going to church. I probably have a little more knowledge of the Bible as well as the social conservative / evangelical ideology of Christianity, at least from an overall Southern Baptist viewpoint, than you might think. Not anywhere near a scholar or even well versed, but some knowledge nonetheless.
Agreeing and believing would be where we part……………… “like the red sea”
Jay
July 17th, 2012
6:28 pm
Common, no cell signals where I’m headed, so an I-pad would just be a hunk of metal to lug around.
I do confess that around Aug. 1 I’ll be slightly curious about how the T-SPLOST went. Maybe you guys can hire a skywriter to let me know?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 17th, 2012
6:28 pm
Just an FYI to the blog regulars, as of Friday I’ll be off for two weeks of fishing, rafting, hiking etc.
O no! Last time Bookman went fishing we wound up with something like 5,000 posts before Paul put a end to them all. Have mercy, Bookman. Leave a couple new write-ups with somebody at the AJC that can put them up for you.
As for this tax return business, I recall a time when I would of been ashamed to let somebody else see my returns. I made so little money in those years I couldn’t even pay for new tires for my cement mixer. This was back when I was hanging sheetrock and doing odd jobs.
I bet that’s the reason why Romney won’t release his returns. He probly went flat-out busted and would of hung his head in shame if anybody saw his returns.
On the other hand. . . naw, a straight-up guy like Romney wouldn’t of pulled any shenigans with his money. I hope he’s not holding the returns back because it would be all over for him if somebody saw the fast ones that he pulled.
Anyhow, I’m looking up old Newt again just in case Romney needs to pull out of the race. Newt’s got some great positions, but he’s awful hard on other peoples women. I don’t know who to be scared of most—Newt or Those People. Both will use your woman like a rented mule.
Have a good night everybody.
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:29 pm
“Show us YOUR Harvard Cum-Laude law degree. Or are you saying you’re not as intelligent?”
I will show you my college transcripts when Caesar Obama shows HIS. Oh wait!
JamVet
July 17th, 2012
6:31 pm
Enjoy the downtime, Jay.
And the time away from us miscreants!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HtsDHsBvGw
barking frog
July 17th, 2012
6:32 pm
F. Sinkwich
You would be so funny
if you weren’t so serious.
G Mare
July 17th, 2012
6:32 pm
Jay, have great trip! If you are going to Oregon, say hello for me. I may have said here that I grew up in Portland.
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:32 pm
“I do confess that around Aug. 1 I’ll be slightly curious about how the T-SPLOST went. Maybe you guys can hire a skywriter to let me know?”
Jay, serious question here…. Why has Atlanta NOT synchronized the Traffic lights?
Is it cost or what?? I don’t get it. That seems like a quick way to get rid of SOME of the traffic congestion, etc. I know it’s not the end all answer to transportation, but come on.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
6:33 pm
Jay
While this issue is surely getting time in the mainstream, liberal and conservative media, it could backfire on the Obama campaign.
Depending what is or isn’t in those returns, it isn’t a guaranteed “got ya” for Obama.
Erwin’s Cat and josef mentioned this yesterday.
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 17th, 2012
6:34 pm
Jay
I’ll bet the Holiday Inn you will be staying at has wireless
Enjoy the time off and I promise I will be good (up to a certain point that I will apologize for in advance)
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
6:34 pm
USMC @ 6:32
Great point.
off topic: You ever try the burgers with sausage?
Jay
July 17th, 2012
6:35 pm
G Mare, the Deschutes River.
And USMC, there is no excuse for the lights not being synchronized. Pretty basic stuff.
G Mare
July 17th, 2012
6:35 pm
Hey, y’all, I seem to recall that some said Paul was the arbiter of the blog when Jay is gone, but don’t recall seeing posts from him recently. Info, anyone?
Jay
July 17th, 2012
6:36 pm
And Both, I agree. But if there’s nothing there, Romney deserves all the credit in the world for playing ‘possum so well.
josef
July 17th, 2012
6:36 pm
USMC
“Why has Atlanta NOT synchronized the Traffic lights?”
That’d take all the fun out of it…
b
July 17th, 2012
6:37 pm
Just wondering, Jay, if you read the rest of the front page of NR…. Or any of the Corner pages? Good stuff…. You may indeed learn something beyond the “objective, unbiased, legitimate” reporting of the “mainstream” media. (Yeah, right: sarcasm, in case you can’t tell.) And Breitbart is pretty good too. (Of course, Brietbart wouldn’t even exist if people like you in the media would actually do their jobs and report from all sides of an issues, instead of giving the Obama party line on everything: the piece that John Nolte did today exposing the media’s idiocy regarding Sununu’s statement is a clear example–one of thousands–that we center/right people have to deal with on a daily basis). Honestly, Romney is right. He’s complying with the law, and any and everything he gives the Obama media will be misconstrued and lied about in as many a ways as possible. These hacks have NO intention of balance or perspective: their only goal is to protect the worst President we’ve known in generations. Anything they can do to ignore his failures–regardless of how much they have to lie and contort Romney to do so–they will do. No doubt about it in my mind or anyone else’s. And, if we want our Presidential candidates to be so forthcoming, then let’s deal with Obama’s college transcripts. Let’s deal with why, out of the blue, he decides to use executive privilege to defend Holder–or himself? I’d love to see the “media” do a tenth of the “investigative” reporting on him that they gave Palin in three weeks. But that ain’t gonna happen. They’ve had five-six years to examine this man and they’ve not done a smidgen of the job yet. And the sad part: all the so-called intelligent people who believe them. I mean, seriously. The brains are so little that they’re still believe the lies about Bain? They believe that Romney’s tax returns beyond anything lawfully required are more important than the proclamation that Obama will unilaterally refuse to enforce the constitution and our laws if he doesn’t like them….? That they’re more important than the Fast and Furious cover-up? That they’re more important than unilaterally deciding to, again, ignore law and undo Clinton’s welfare reform–just because he “wants” to? I And, obviously, I could go on and on and on…..) I mean seriously: people are so small-minded that the fabricated media narrative against Romney is more important than actually dealing with the dangerous failings of this President?
And, please, don’t insult your intelligence by trying to defend this so-called media. Any thinking person with some common sense and any desire whatsoever to be fair knows that the media is indefensible.
But, seriously, Jay and all the rest of his sycophants who visit this site to gobble up the garbage: read the articles on these sites you go to and find something to comment about other than the one or two items every now and then which you happen to find as fodder for your propaganda. You really will learn something and be a far better human being because of it.
And, btw, one reason I love NR: there are various opinions there. Unlike most democrats who are so used to the same status quo bull that they wouldn’t recognize a valid opposing opinion if it bit them in their *s* (….I mean mouth), conservatives do engage in meaningful examination of the issues from a myriad of perspectives.
Erwin's cat
July 17th, 2012
6:37 pm
Do you guys ranting over Mitts tax forms ever consider that you are being “punked”?….this is so hangover II….Mitt’s not gonna release anything until after the nomination
Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people
July 17th, 2012
6:39 pm
Usmc 6:32
They are working on controlling lights like sandy springs does
Their progress is just glacial though
Frog
“Self police. That’s funnier
than self deport.”
josef
July 17th, 2012
6:39 pm
GMARE
Paul does take time off on occasion…
Peter
July 17th, 2012
6:39 pm
OBVIOUSLY USMC was never a soldier….. I f he ever was a true American soldier he would show respect toward the current commander in Chief.
The guy who got Bin Laden, and the guy who ended the Bush Invasion or …… Iraq war.
F. Sinkwich
July 17th, 2012
6:41 pm
bf,
I’m
just
a lot
smarter
than
you.
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:41 pm
off topic: You ever try the burgers with sausage?
Yes! But I must say…. I will take a burger with ANYTHING!
josef
July 17th, 2012
6:42 pm
PETER
USMC doesn’t show respect for anything or anybody…but don’t take him too seriously, he doesn’t take himself so…he just likes to twit…
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:43 pm
“Why has Atlanta NOT synchronized the Traffic lights?”That’d take all the fun out of it…”–The Headmaster (josef)
Yeah, Josef, someone UP THERE is laughing their collective behinds off!
F. Sinkwich
July 17th, 2012
6:43 pm
Hey b, your style is the anti-bf.
But it’s nothing to be proud of.
josef
July 17th, 2012
6:44 pm
SINKWICH
“bf,
I’m
just
a lot
smarter
than
you.”
Are you saying that BF is dumber than 16 trashcans?
Full disclosure
July 17th, 2012
6:44 pm
He’s taking PR advice from the same guys who told President Obama to not release his birth certificate for 3 years or so. How do those type of PR clowns get jobs?
Peter
July 17th, 2012
6:44 pm
Ever consider that you are being “punked”?
Voting for Mitt….. a guy who bought American Companies and then added allot of debt to the books in the form of payouts to his company, then chose to bankrupted them saying they were losing money……. bottom line causing American’s to loose their jobs.
That is job creation in the US ?
Steve - USA "None of the Above"
July 17th, 2012
6:45 pm
Jay – “That’s also the point of the whole Bain thing. What Romney and Bain did was not by any means illegal, and you can make a strong argument that firing people is dirty work but in a capitalist economy striving for efficiency, somebody has to do it.”
“The question is whether voters will accept that “somebody” as their president, where a different set of rules and expectations apply.”
Hundreds of Counties in Red and Blue States have fired people over the last couple of years. Most of them because voters on both sides were unwilling to increase their property taxes to make up for shortages. Seems like the voters would be holding a candidate to a different standard than what they are more than happy to do in their own community.
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:46 pm
“The guy who got Bin Laden, and the guy who ended the Bush Invasion or …… Iraq war.”
Obama didn’t do that….. someone ELSE did that….”—–Peter
Obama didn’t do that…. Remember?????
Caesar Obama: If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-ZO7XOpwa8
Erwin's cat
July 17th, 2012
6:47 pm
Come on Peter…or should I call you “Polly”
Peter
July 17th, 2012
6:48 pm
Josef….. USMC reminds me of the guy who just called the President these names……I think Obama is a jerk, a pantywaist, a lightweight, a blowhard.
And the world wonder why the younger generation has little respect….. Thank you for the great teaching lessons in the lack of respect !
Willie
July 17th, 2012
6:48 pm
Bookman and the rest of the Obamacrats don’t have anything positive to run on so they are all negative, all the time. Obama used to lie to us about a new tone in politics. Now he is just a hypocrite. Attack. Attack Attack is all he and his minions ever do.
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:48 pm
“USMC doesn’t show respect for anything or anybody…but don’t take him too seriously, he doesn’t take himself so…he just likes to twit…”–josef
Oh I do show respexts though. But this is a rough and unedumacated crowd in here and “while in Rome”… well you know the rest.
JamVet
July 17th, 2012
6:49 pm
The guy who has to tell everyone how smart he is reminds me of the athlete who has to tell everyone how good he is.
In both cases their results would do their talking for them.
And a certain blogger’s posts here give away his real IQ more that the braggadocio sprinter who keeps coming in sixth in a seven man race…
Peter
July 17th, 2012
6:50 pm
Obama didn’t do that….. someone ELSE did that.
Who did it then ?
Who planned it, and who was in charge when it happened..who put their political career on the line ?
Sorry make some sense some of the time.
Obama was in charge.he gave the go !
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:51 pm
Yeah, I guess Peter was the ONLY Leftwing Hater not DISRESPECTING President Bush.
Peter and the Pepsi generation are stuck on Hot Pockets and Video Games.
Peter
July 17th, 2012
6:52 pm
Why don’t we go with who was in charge when the country was imploding, while Bin Laden was free, and the Iraq war was raging ?
Barney Fife
July 17th, 2012
6:52 pm
Mittins reminds me of the spoiled rich kid played by Bill Bixby on the Andy Griffith show. Maybe he can sit down with some regular folks and see what life is about.
Jay
July 17th, 2012
6:52 pm
Willie, given how conservatives have treated Obama over the last four years — the things they’ve called him and the stories they’ve invented about him — complaining about “attack attack attack” is truly precious.
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:54 pm
Who did it then ?
Are you kidding me?
The Intelligence Community and the Operators of Seal Team Six. Obama said Okay.
Doesn’t sound like Peter knows much about the Intelligence Community.
(Maybe from his lack of intelligence)
Steve - USA "None of the Above"
July 17th, 2012
6:54 pm
Jay-
Have fun on your trip. Are you going to go all the way and get off the grid?
Peter
July 17th, 2012
6:55 pm
USMC that was silly…… since you are making more stuff up have at it !
Peter and the Pepsi generation are stuck on Hot Pockets and Video Games.
For starters I don’t eat fast food, Hot Pockets, drink soda at all, or play video games.
I am a guy who works continuously. Have not had a job since 1984. Self employed since then.
barking frog
July 17th, 2012
6:55 pm
F.
U
R
Not.
carlosgvv
July 17th, 2012
6:56 pm
Union – 5:51 “kind of like Obama’s”?
No, it’s not.
josef
July 17th, 2012
6:56 pm
PETER
With rare exceptions, I’ve found the younger generation to be quite respectful…
Like I said, USMC likes to twit, and you fall for it…
Erwin's cat
July 17th, 2012
6:56 pm
Jat@ 6:52 – life imitating life
Jay
July 17th, 2012
6:57 pm
Even after the Sununu squabble, Romney himself goes on the campaign trail to accuse Obama of wanting to “change the nature of America” and claiming that “His course is extraordinarily foreign.”
In other words, Sununu didn’t misspeak. He expressed exactly the message that the Romney campaign had consciously settled upon, to cast Obama as “extraordinarily foreign” and unAmerican.
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:57 pm
“Willie, given how conservatives have treated Obama over the last four years — the things they’ve called him and the stories they’ve invented about him — complaining about “attack attack attack” is truly precious.”
Oh please Jay…. What did they call Bush??? You ALL made up garbage and spewed it on George Bush. “Bush lied, People Died” The ape caricatures, the Bush manikins hanging from trees with NOOSES around his neck… just to scratch the surface.
Erwin's cat
July 17th, 2012
6:58 pm
and….
F. Sinkwich
July 17th, 2012
7:00 pm
I guess no lib ilk on Jay’s leftie blog can demonstrate that O’bozo has an American state of mind.
My proof stands.
Oh, one point I didn’t mention, O’bozo wants to fundamentally change this country.
I ask you, if you loved something, would you want to fundamentally transform it?
No, you’d only want to do that to something you HATE.
Ipso facto, case closed.
Jay
July 17th, 2012
7:00 pm
Steve, yes.
http://www.djensenphotography.com/images/ne_ore/mountains/deschutes_river_sun_spotlit.htm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
7:00 pm
JohnnyReb
If you’re still around, there’s a way to get rid of the meebo bar if you’re using firefox.
It involves the add-on adblock or adblock plus and putting mebo in the custom filter file.
USMC
July 17th, 2012
7:00 pm
“Like I said, USMC likes to twit, and you fall for it…”
Josef, I think Peter sounds a little angry and doesn’t seem to be the brightest bulb… well you get my drift.
carlosgvv
July 17th, 2012
7:01 pm
While Romney is heming and hawing and delaying, his top dollar tax lawyers and CPA’s are working around the clock to produce a set of tax returns and financial statements that will satisfy the American people. Although these documents will be complely fraudulent,they will appear so authentic and contain so many fail-safes that even the closest scrutiny will not reveal them for the fakes they are.
In this country, tons of money can get you just about anything.
G Mare
July 17th, 2012
7:01 pm
Jay, that is a beautiful area of Oregon. In fact, most of Oregon is beautiful. I’ve considered moving back, but kids & grands are here. I am curious as to you came to discover it. Only if you care to share, of course.
Truth-O-Meter
July 17th, 2012
7:01 pm
Question: What do people who pledge to give $100,000,000.00 to see a candidate win an office that pays less than a half million dollars a year really want for their donation?
josef
July 17th, 2012
7:01 pm
“For starters I don’t eat fast food, Hot Pockets, drink soda at all, or play video games.”
Bless your heart…
“I am a guy who works continuously. Have not had a job since 1984. Self employed since then.”
Why be a workaholic? I’m one, too, but I consider it one of my greatest failures of character…and what makes it even worse is that I don’t have to…got work on the other screen right now…
But, really, Mec, lighten up a bit…
F. Sinkwich
July 17th, 2012
7:02 pm
“In other words, Sununu didn’t misspeak. He expressed exactly the message that the Romney campaign had consciously settled upon, to cast Obama as “extraordinarily foreign” and unAmerican.”
O’bozo is, Jay.
Please see the proof in my previous posts.
Truth hurts sometimes.
Peter
July 17th, 2012
7:02 pm
Yeah, I guess Peter was the ONLY Left wing Hater not DISRESPECTING President Bush.
Yes I was truly impressed with comments from Cheney like . Bin Laden and Saddam were working together….. The invasion of Iraq because we were attacked on 911…… Letting the Bin Laden family fly after 911 when all others couldn’t….. “Cost Plus Contracts” because the benefited the American tax payer.
Shall we go on…… Corporate bailouts, because there were no regulations.how about the “Energy For America Meetings ” who included the Enron Exec’s.all closed doors to the American public…..
The bilking of California, so the governor would be removed, but Arnold was not what the Republican’s expected…..or the favorite of all the Republican statements…..and why America is where it is today………
Deficits Don’t matter !
Yes the Republican’s were impressive during those 8 years !
Steve - USA "None of the Above"
July 17th, 2012
7:02 pm
Jay-
Looks nice. I just backtracked to the last page and saw you answered that already about being on the grid. Sorry.
JKL2
July 17th, 2012
7:04 pm
-You do have to wonder why he hasn’t.
Which is that? Released his college transcripts or anything related to fast and furious? Shouldn’t expect much less from someone who took over three years to find his birth certificate…
Peter
July 17th, 2012
7:05 pm
USMC .. show off your watt power as you classify another …… give us some humor or an example of wit please. You big brain you.
josef
July 17th, 2012
7:05 pm
SINKWICH
Was your Mama scared by Joseph McCarthy when she was carrying you?
b
July 17th, 2012
7:06 pm
Jay, your comment at 6:57 speaks volumes. Yes. Exactly. The facts of Obama’s education and influences are clear. It’s just that the leftist media has never gotten around to telling America this…. because? They agree. They agree with the radically left influences on Obama—and they’ve done everything they can to construe this as all “normal.” Sorry, it won’t fly anymore. Americans are, thankfully, not that dumb. We’re not willing to have the wool thrown over our heads and lead around like idiots any more. And the New Media is playing a huge part in this. Thank God. Literally.
I told one of my buddies in Athens not long ago–and after having lived there, working at UGA for a while, I know what I’m talking about. “You guys are so used to talking with each others’ *s* holes that you don’t even recognize what they are anymore.” Media people all hang out together and say the same things that they want to hear. And the bubble is being burst. Finally, someone is telling the world that the dude’s nekkid. The emperor has no clothes.
Hey, and if you agree with Obama’s perspective, then fine: vote for him. But don’t count on the wave of irrationality to carry him over the top as it did last time. Too many people are finally learning the truth.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:07 pm
josef
I’m thinking J Edgar
josef
July 17th, 2012
7:08 pm
USMC
Before I forget…Sinkwich says you live under exit 5 on Georgia 400…
Peter
July 17th, 2012
7:08 pm
Hey, and if you agree with Obama’s perspective, then fine: vote for him. But don’t count on the wave of irrationality to carry him over the top as it did last time. Too many people are finally learning the truth.
So what is the truth the Republican’s are offering ? A guy who sold American jobs abroad ?
Steve - USA "None of the Above"
July 17th, 2012
7:09 pm
“Hey, and if you agree with Obama’s perspective, then fine: vote for him. But don’t count on the wave of irrationality to carry him over the top as it did last time. Too many people are finally learning the truth.”
Luckily for Obama it isn’t a one man election and the guy he has to beat is basically a Stooge.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
7:09 pm
I know what I’m talking about.
So what?
I can make The Most Interesting Man in the World cry like a three year old.
jeff
July 17th, 2012
7:13 pm
Obama is the one hiding things… past school info, past association, and past lies about what he really wants for America.. I will vote for the one who can bring our economy back and knows how to get America back to work, Send Obama and his socialist ways back where he really came from.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
7:14 pm
Teddy’s all natural peanut butter is awesome
2 ingredients: peanuts and salt
Erwin's cat
July 17th, 2012
7:16 pm
I can make The Most Interesting Man in the World cry like a three year old.
really?, I swear I can make him seem more interesting….so what’s with the hummingbirds,are they all up there ’cause of GCC down here?
Peter
July 17th, 2012
7:16 pm
josef . Any hobbies ? I like growing my garden……..my tomatoes are kicking it to the point I just made a huge container of sauce with only tomatoes from the garden, and plenty on the vine.
Last year when I finally picked the last group about the 1st of December we got 22 lbs……. 1/2 were green, so they went into salsa for our Tamale making party.
Nothing like a fresh tomato off the vine !
Jay
July 17th, 2012
7:17 pm
I’ve lived out there twice, G Mare, once as a kid when my father was stationed near Tillamook, and I worked eight years as a journalist in the Portland area. So I know it pretty well.
And B., the “leftist media” never got around to telling people that his name was Barack Hussein Obama, that he lived in Indonesia as a kid, that his natural father was a Kenyan? Really?
So all that came as a surprise to you? When did you discover all those facts (no doubt on your own, since everyone had conspired to keep them from you)?
Here’s the brutal facts: The American people learned all those things and more, they learned them from the mainstream media, and THEY DECIDED THEY DIDN’T MATTER!!!!
That’s the thing that conservatives cannot bring themselves to accept. This whole “the media didn’t vet him” garbage is an excuse to save themselves from having to admit that the American people really do know all this stuff about their president, and they like him anyway or in some cases because of it.
Ralph
July 17th, 2012
7:18 pm
I miss Ike.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 17th, 2012
7:18 pm
Teddy’s all natural peanut butter is awesome
2 ingredients: peanuts and salt
Well, you need to get your hands on some of the peanut butter us rednecks make down at Blakely. It’ll clean you out good. Just leave a few dozen sacks of peanuts with them. You’ll like what comes out of there.
b
July 17th, 2012
7:20 pm
Peter, just wondering: are you aware of how debunked that whole Bain is Bad thing really is? (Even by people who are Obama toadies?) Are you also aware of how much Obama and this government is guilty of the same thing you’re accusing Romney of–except in his case, he’s wasting tax dollars not money from investors? Are you aware of how unfriendly the tax code is in this country which makes outsourcing such a viable option? Are you aware of the fact that unions have institutionalized mediocrity to such an alarming extent while extorting unsustainable benefits that companies (who are earning money for their shareholders–as they are supposed to–money which nearly everyone in this company who owns stocks or retirement plans or mutual funds benefits from) have often had no choice?
I’m going to consider two options: either you don’t know all of this because you trust the media and have never had any other perspective offered you.
Or you willfully want to deny anything which doesn’t fit your pretty little picture with a haloed Obama in the center.
And as far as being a “Stooge,” as Steve says. Sorry. Won’t fly. Guy has been successful at pretty much everything he’s ever touched. Great academic record. And the people in Salt Lake swear by him–because he saved those Winter Games. Took something that was collapsing and turned it into a major success. But again, if you’re depending on the so-called media for your info, then of course, you have no clue.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
7:22 pm
Erwin’s cat
I dunno. Usually, I can make 3 cups of food for the feeder and it’ll last about a month, give or take.
This year 3 cups won’t last 2 weeks.
josef
July 17th, 2012
7:22 pm
PETER
We got our first fried green ones the last of April and our first ripe ones the first week of May…okra is doing well and we’ve got plenty of peppers…Unmentionable is the one with the green thumb…I sketch, draw, paint and do moss garden villages…blogging, though, is my way of relaxing…I can do and my other work, too…
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
7:23 pm
hussein calls romney a felon and implies he’s a tax cheat and that is parroted by the eternal liberal hack bookman…..another day, same old classless, dishonest leftists…….how about obama starting his political career in the living room of an unrepentent domestic terrorist named bill ayers…..if that was romney’s history that would be all you would parrot jay…..keep it up hack, please!!!!
F. Sinkwich
July 17th, 2012
7:23 pm
Gee, no lib ilks have defended O’bozo as an American from a state-of-mind perspective.
Because no one here has any evidence of that.
He doesn’t much like America.
I do. I love it. As the majority of our citizens do.
That’s why he will lose in November.
Boris Badnoff
July 17th, 2012
7:23 pm
Certainly it would make interesting reading along with The Messiah’s Birth Certificate, academic records, medical records, et al. Oh Dear, now even some of the faithful have doubts
http://www.mediaite.com/online/star-of-obama-super-pac-ad-calls-president-a-jerk-a-pantywaist-a-lightweight-and-a-blowhard/
Not to worry. With out booming and prosperous economy featuring full employment, free everything, and The Messiah’s genius for bipartisanship he will be reelected in a landslide.
Certainly there is room for Face of The Messiah on Mount Rushmore. But those ears present a problem.
b
July 17th, 2012
7:24 pm
Jay, I’m sorry: I’m not stupid enough to accept your bull. If you honestly can sit there and say that the so-called media vetted this man, you’re as idiotic as they are. Don’t like calling names, but seriously. Of course I knew all that stuff. And lots more because I actually did some homework–because I haven’t trusted the media since I was 11 years old. I listened to other voices, was not stupid enough to get swept off my feet by rhetoric. By Greek columns. By people fainting and chanting “yes we can.” I’m not that dumb. And for you to insinuate that I am is just typical of the left.
josef
July 17th, 2012
7:25 pm
K’CHAK
We’ve had several humming birds this year…I was noticing your comment the other day on the nasty tempered female…her sister must live in this neighborhood…
Midori
July 17th, 2012
7:27 pm
Boris,
you sound like a five year old.
and for that comparison, I apologize to all 5 year olds.
G Mare
July 17th, 2012
7:27 pm
Thanks, Jay. It is truly a wonderful state & I have many fond memories. Sad to say, I have not been back in too many years. Did you, perchance, work for the OREGONIAN? There was another paper, but I can’t remember the name. The Portland Journal maybe? Okay, will google.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
7:27 pm
Redneck 7:18 duly noted thx
“Obama is foreign”
Yup. Like a needle in a delta sandwich.
Ralph
July 17th, 2012
7:27 pm
I even miss Truman.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:28 pm
“hussein calls romney a felon ”
When did this happen?
Fill us in with the “hot off the press” facts
Midori
July 17th, 2012
7:28 pm
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/552309_458882434130076_1342581473_n.jpg
Midori
July 17th, 2012
7:29 pm
All the Republicans Calling on Romney to Release His Tax Returns
The chorus of conservatives calling for Mitt Romney to release more of his tax returns has grown from being mostly those with an ax to grind to elected officials and the conservative establishment. Here’s who’s on the record wanting Romney’s taxes on the record so far:
Rick Perry. The Texas governor told the Associated Press Tuesday, “I’m a big believer that no matter who you are, or what office you’re running for, you should be as transparent as you can be with your tax returns and other aspects of your life so that people have the appropriate ability to judge your background and what have you… I think anyone running for office, if they get asked within reason to give people background about what they have been doing, including tax returns, should do that.”
Ron Paul. “Politically, I think that would help him… In the scheme of things politically, you know, it looks like releasing tax returns is what the people want,” the former presidential candidate told Politico Tuesday.
Brit Hume. “Anytime it’s an issue between disclosure and non-disclosure, you always wonder whether it’s better just to put it out there,” the Fox News commentator told Bill O’Reilly Monday night.
real john
July 17th, 2012
7:29 pm
No Jay I don’t have to wonder why because I DON’T CARE!!!
Questions Jay:
1. What information do you hope to gather from Romney’s tax returns?
2. Would you change your opinion of him if he released his returns?
3. If for example he gave a lot to charity, would that lead you to change your mind about him and potentially vote for him???
4. What if he paid a really high effective tax rate? Would you consider voting for him then??
If you answer No and No to questions three and four, than why do YOU care??
Answer…Because Romney is a Republican you automatically can’t stand him and his wealth. Therefore lets make up a bunch of non stories to try and make him look bad.
No offense Jay, but this is pretty bush league. Who cares how much Romney or anyone for that matter makes…I think our country has far bigger issues…don’t you????
Jm
July 17th, 2012
7:29 pm
“That’s why he will lose in November.”
Sink, Not unless you go the distance….
Contribute
Make phone calls
Bumper sticker
And go vote
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
7:30 pm
I listened to other voices…
I see the problem now.
Maybe this will help.
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
7:30 pm
obama’s campaign called romney a felon…..enough said
martin the calvinist
July 17th, 2012
7:30 pm
Jay, I know why Romney will not release his tax records, at least for now. Obama will use it to show how rich Romney is and that he’s out of touch from the average American and that he will only protect the rich. Again, I find this thing a distraction because Obama refuses to talk specifics about his policies, if the average American knew what Obama really meant by spreading the wealth around, he would lose his re-election bid. I sure wish politicans had the courage to speak policy issues and direction instead of personal attacks…..
Jay
July 17th, 2012
7:30 pm
B, your fellow Americans know all that stuff too. Hell, Obama confessed half of it himself in his two books.
But they, unlike you, have decided it doesn’t matter. I know you can’t accept that reality. Because if you accept it, then you have to also have to accept the fact that it is not Obama who is out of touch with America. It is you. America has changed, and you have not, and it is now you who is out of place.
That fact cannot be allowed to penetrate. You will believe whatever is necessary — birth certificate, media conspiracy, whitey tapes, etc. — to keep that thought at bay.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:31 pm
Billybob
I wouldn’t claim that Romney said Obama need to learn to be an American, because that would be a lie.
Maybe you just made a mistake
yeah that is it
Jm
July 17th, 2012
7:31 pm
Tbs 7:28 catch up
that’s old news
Peter
July 17th, 2012
7:32 pm
josef . I am out of here to go do a project……..
I was an Art major in college…… did drawing, Lithography, painting, clay, sculpture…….but my favorite that I did the most of was hand blown glass… I got pretty good at it. My roommate from college is a world renowned glass artist.
I sold glass around the northeast including in a gift shop in Rockefeller center.
I do stained glass, and pride myself in that all I make, I create the designs.
Currently I am redoing a ranch…so off to work on the bathroom marble design.
Creativity is a wonderful release !
Jay
July 17th, 2012
7:32 pm
G Mare, the Vancouver Columbian, across the river.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:32 pm
“obama’s campaign called romney a felon…..enough said”
thanks for the clarification, however you spoke of “dishonesty” in your post and it was so ironic that you knowingly being just that
typical for you
Erwin's cat
July 17th, 2012
7:33 pm
Kam @7:22 – the complete opposite here…at least for me
Midori
July 17th, 2012
7:33 pm
aw Jay — take it easy on b.
he’s still licking his wounds after watching Joe Arpiao’s lackluster press conference.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
7:35 pm
“B, your fellow Americans know all that stuff too. Hell, Obama confessed half of it himself in his two books.”
Obama’s book sold 300 million copies in the US? Wow!
josef
July 17th, 2012
7:36 pm
midori
Hey! They were suggesting some reads for you. I got one. If you haven’t already read it, John Kennedy Toole’s “A Confederacy of Dunces.” Best thing since “Don Quijote” and guaranteed to give you a thigh slapping laugh in your time of troubles…It sure did us in ours…
G Mare
July 17th, 2012
7:36 pm
Whoa, Jay@7:30, AWESOME!!!
Jay
July 17th, 2012
7:37 pm
jm, the most frustrating thing about you is that you are far more intelligent than the rube you portray on this blog.
EOM.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:37 pm
Jm
I knew what he meant, however he was being dishonest while speaking of others being dishonest
He probably doesn’t even see the irony.
Heck it is early in the game. The mud slinging, lies and bs hasn’t even really started on either side.
getalife
July 17th, 2012
7:38 pm
Divide and conquer.
They will call this one early.
Again.
Mr. Snarky
July 17th, 2012
7:39 pm
Jay, It’s simple…because he’s a weasel.
marko
July 17th, 2012
7:40 pm
The thing that’s really weird about this is Romney’s own father set the precedent for releasing tax returns. I never thought W was half the man his father was. Now I can say pretty much the same about Mitt. When you apply for the biggest job in the country, people have a right to look at you under a microscope.
Mitt’s an arrogant blow hard. Two bets. Mitt caves and releases his tax returns, and Obama doesn’t apologize to him. He didn’t apologize to Bin Laden, don’t expect him to apologize to the Mitster.
Jay
July 17th, 2012
7:41 pm
G Mare, B may have inadvertently inspired a blog post for tomorrow.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
7:42 pm
jm, the most frustrating thing about you is that you are far more intelligent than the rube you portray on this blog.
So far, all the available evidence suggests otherwise.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
7:42 pm
thanks for the tip, Josef.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
7:42 pm
Kammy!!
josef
July 17th, 2012
7:43 pm
BOTH
“Heck it is early in the game. The mud slinging, lies and bs hasn’t even really started on either side”
True dat!
Ralph
July 17th, 2012
7:43 pm
The tax returns could show Romney to be as alien to average Americans as the R’s have portrayed Obama. Instead of being of mixed race and Kenyan paternity, the voluminous and infinitely complex tax returns will show him to have millions in numbered Swiss and Cayman Island accounts, esoteric tax shelters, etc. Instead of innuendos about Muslim ancestry, the tax returns will accentuate his active support for what millions of Americans believe to be a weird cult.
It is ironic that Romney’s main claim to legitimacy as a candidate was health care reform in Massachusetts, but he can’t run on that because it is so much like the federal health care reform that was patterned after it and which partisan politics now requires him to renounce. Because he can’t run on his record as Governor, he has to run on his business experience. But because the business experience involves so much outsourcing jobs, bankrupting companies, destroying jobs, etc., and the personal wealth he gained in that manner is so alien to middle class Americans, he can’t run on that either.
Unfortunately, it has gotten to the point that normal middle class centrist Americans, no matter how capable and brilliant, cannot get through the nominating process to run for President. So we are left with Obama and Romney.
We could do better. We should do better. Somehow we must do better.
Jay
July 17th, 2012
7:43 pm
I didn’t mean to set off jm bashing, my apologies.
Soothsayer
July 17th, 2012
7:45 pm
Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news for all of you Fright-Wing “wishers and hopers.” Things just don’t look good.
Obama in the bag 221
Colorado 9
Iowa 6
Michigan 16
Nevada 6
New Hampshire 4
Ohio 18
Virginia 13
Wisconsin 10
Total: 303
Needed to win: 270
And I didn’t even include Florida 29 which Obama enjoys a slight lead.
Too bad!
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:45 pm
josef
Lies, Lies and more Lies
Coming via the Romney and Obama campaigns near you
Jm
July 17th, 2012
7:46 pm
Jay 7:37
Race to the bottom of the barrel
b
July 17th, 2012
7:47 pm
Jay, you’re not getting away with it. 80% plus in survey after survey of media types indicate that they support liberals. And the number of positive to negative articles about Obama runs about 6 to 1 whereas positive about republicans runs about 1 in 6. (Don’t have the research in front of me–sorry.) More negative articles came out in three weeks about Palin than came out in the entire campaign about Obama (2008 campaign). So don’t sit there and feed me bull about the media doing its job. And how the public was fully informed. You’re right: the info was in those books. (At least the parts that hadn’t been excerpted out in subsequent editions). And you tell me that if a conservative had something comparably explosive in his books that it wouldn’t be front and center news day after day after day!!!! Honestly, Jay, not even you can be that dishonest. For Obama, anything that was remotely controversial was tucked away as securely as possible.
And, I’m not sure, but I think you were accusing me of racism. HOW DARE YOU!!!!! I don’t give a flying fart what color someone is as long has he or she has a vision of this country which works, which honors the constitution which they’re supposedly bound to uphold. Which is not bound and determined to make us a nanny state, which is deadset on making us a nation of dependents. (How horrible. Liberals should be ashamed of themselves for what they’re doing in creating a permanent underclass of society…. It’s horrifying.)
Did you sean Nolte’s Breitbart column today about the Sununu press conference. You should…. as I said earlier: you read something other than the party line once in a while and you might learn something. Small business people who are furious with Obama. Where’s the coverage? One was a black woman (matters to the racists on the left perhaps, but not to me): totally ignored. Because it’s not the narrative that the lefties want to give….. But that’s the media that we’ve had to deal with for decades. Tell us what the paternalistic bastards who thinks we’re too dumb to think for ourselves wants us to hear. I’m not that stupid.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
7:47 pm
Hiya, Midori!
xoxoxoxo
getalife
July 17th, 2012
7:48 pm
Hey Midori
Jm
July 17th, 2012
7:49 pm
“I didn’t mean to set off jm bashing, my apologies.”
Par for the course. Blogs don’t equal sophisticated dialogue outlets.
There are a few here one can have a decent conversation with.
Josef comes to mind….
Bro, on occasion….
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
7:49 pm
They Both suck,
There’s a reply to your 5:27pm, downstairs should you choose to read it. This will be the last time I explain my position to you.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:50 pm
Hello Midori
Hope you had a good day
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
7:50 pm
Race to the bottom of the barrel
A race that you won long ago.
But cheer up, there are some contenders for your throne.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:51 pm
Recon
Thanks. Did you see my 6:28 on this thread
Midori
July 17th, 2012
7:53 pm
Hi getalife
Hi both
one thing I can tell you is b is keeping me fabulously entertained
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
7:53 pm
How horrible. Liberals should be ashamed of themselves …
The passive/aggressive card.
That one hasn’t worked on me since I was 15 years old.
You’re really digging yourself in deep here.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:53 pm
Recon
To be clear. My 6:28 on this thread is my reply to your last post downstairs.
Thanks
Jay
July 17th, 2012
7:54 pm
No, B., I did not in any way imply that you are motivated by racism, so you can save yourself your melodramatic “HOW DARE YOU!” That defense mechanism is not available to you.
And if the fact that one person on that call was a black woman did not matter to you, why did you think it worthy of mentioning?
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
7:58 pm
TBS,
Fair enough but don’t challenge those who disagree with you either because most like me aren’t going to change their belief. Thanks
getalife
July 17th, 2012
7:58 pm
cons are whining about corporate media today.
It is your media screaming show us your papers willard.
The gop agree.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
7:59 pm
For the record,
The birther / college transcripts / foreigner themes are all stupid
But so are the themes about Romney as a corporate shill, Romney as a crook, Romney as an outsourced in chief, Romney as a job killer
Thing is, this race may get stupid ugly, ironically because both candidates are at least in principal decent people duking it out in a winner take all political system
The close race means it is going to be a desperate match with lots of mud slinging
And that mud will splatter onto this blog as well
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:59 pm
Recon
You challenge and make assertions all the time. Never asked you or anyone to change their belief system, so you can save that one.
your welcome
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:01 pm
Jm
true enough……………..
Jay is probably on blog suicide alert from now until the election.
Soothsayer
July 17th, 2012
8:01 pm
Now, you know ol’ Sooth’s not going pull the wool over your eyes. (Well, there was that one time.) You can plunk down $666.00 for a “douche” burger! I am not kidding! You have to read this!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:02 pm
…duking it out in a winner take all political system
And in related news: water is still wet.
b
July 17th, 2012
8:02 pm
You did imply it: whitey tapes? Whatever the h*ll that is….
I pointed it out because the left always seems to care what a black woman has to say. As long as she says what she’s expected to say….. Say something different? Ignored…. Happens pretty much every time.
Jay, I usually read your little headline and refuse to give you a click. But today, I got to thinking about how you exemplify the left (I don’t have to read beyond the headlines to know that.) and decided to see if, indeed, you’re willing to give credence to the rest of the NR front page (that’s where my conversation started.) But I’m sorry I did it.. You and your sycophants in here: enjoy your little party. Live in your little world where you think everyone agrees with you…. Where you refuse to acknowledge how out of touch you are (how could you know differently?) Where you refuse to give credence to any idea which isn’t acceptable to the “elite.” You don’t need anyone upsetting your little petty reality.
I won’t make the mistake again. You’re not worth the effort. Your replies to me show this fact sadly and amply.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:03 pm
And as for it “may get stupid ugly”………
Easy bet in Vegas, especially when it comes to the Super Pac.
Rove will be Rove and the moveon types will be the moveon types
josef
July 17th, 2012
8:04 pm
MIDORI
“..one thing I can tell you is b is keeping me fabulously entertained ”
Oh, then, I do suspect you’d like “Confederacy”
“I do admire the terror which Negroes are able to inspire in the hearts of some members of the white proletariat and only wish (This is a rather personal confession.) that I possessed the ability to similarly terrorize. The Negro terrorizes simply by being himself; I however, must browbeat a bit in order to achieve the same end. Perhaps I should have been a Negro. I suspect that I would have been a rather large and terrifying one, continually pressing my ample thigh against the withered thighs of old white ladies in public conveyances a great deal and eliciting more than one shriek of panic. Then, too, if I were a Negro, I would not be pressured by my mother to find a good job, for no good jobs would be available. My mother herself, a worn old Negress, would be too broken by years of underpaid labor as a domestic to go out bowling at night. She and I could live most pleasantly in some moldy shack in the slums in a state of ambitionless peace, realizing contentedly that we were unwanted, that striving was meaningless.”
― John Kennedy Toole, A Confederacy of Dunces
getalife
July 17th, 2012
8:04 pm
jm,
Dish it out but can’t take it.
Three more months to go.
Politics is for adults not children.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:05 pm
fainting couch needed on aisle 5!!!
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:06 pm
Kam, it’s not always winner take all
But last time democrats won congress and the WH
If Romney wins, it will likely be true repubs won congress too
Which raises the stakes v divided WH and congress
TBS – blog suicide? Like jay signing off his own blog? Doubtful
Then again, Charlie sheen dropped off twitter
josef
July 17th, 2012
8:07 pm
BOTH
No paper dolls for you!
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:07 pm
Getalife 8:04 bring it
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:07 pm
Jm
Nice spin, but in regards to those who will press it too far and Jay has to send them packing
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:08 pm
josef
too funny
hahahahahah
Jack
July 17th, 2012
8:09 pm
Bookman’s paycheck requires a steady stream of Romney bashing. And where’re his drones gonna go when he’s away for two weeks?
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:09 pm
Tbs – not spin, just not clear on what you were saying.
If u mean jay has a pack full of red cards ready, I suspect you’re right
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:10 pm
Kam, it’s not always winner take all
By it’s very nature, a political election is winner-take-all.
There is no prize for second place.
What a naif!
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:10 pm
Jack
I don’t think jay has to be paid to say what he says, he’d do it for free probably is my guess
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:11 pm
Jm
exactly………………… probably in hand
I can think of a few on each side of the fence who may not make it……..
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:11 pm
Got a question for you, Josef
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/532639_498798326800592_1129961424_n.jpg
getalife
July 17th, 2012
8:12 pm
jm,
Consider it brought.
This one is over.
willard has his own party turning against him.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 17th, 2012
8:12 pm
Well, if the people that wanted to see Obama’s birth certificate are called Birthers, I’m going to call all the people that want to see Romney’s tax returns the Returners.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:12 pm
Kam 8:10 dodge
Yes, individual races are winner take all
The entire election isn’t necessarily
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:13 pm
Heck I might be one but it wont be over the election
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:15 pm
Getalife
The RW media is trying to prove its balance
I don’t really care what they have to say
Only Romney and his advisors know how bad the fallout might be from his tax returns
marko
July 17th, 2012
8:15 pm
At times I’ve had buyers remorse about my vote for Obama. After all we choose him when we could have had Hillary. I can’t imagine the righties ever feeling similar remorse thinking that they could have elected Rick Perry or Michelle Bachman. What’s really funny about this is that Mitt was really the best they had to offer. It’s almost like the GOP spent twelve hours slaving over Thanksgiving dinner. They lift the lid from the silver platter, and we get frozen fish sticks and canned peas.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:16 pm
And where’re his drones gonna go when he’s away for two weeks?
The same place we’ve been for the past three years when he went fishin’.
Geez….
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:18 pm
My guess is he hasn’t paid much in taxes for many of the years
With 1/2 his money in an IRA, no taxes there
With the other half in equity (where taxes can be deferred) or other tax preferred accounts and trusts, he probably hasn’t paid very much in tax period
Butno one knows for sure except Romney plus inner circle
Hootinanny Yum Yum
July 17th, 2012
8:18 pm
More concerned about what congress and the current administration is doing with my money than what Romney is doing with his…
barking frog
July 17th, 2012
8:18 pm
Enter your comments here
josef
July 17th, 2012
8:19 pm
midori
@ 8:11
Printed and hanging above my desk! Thanks!
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:20 pm
Tbs
Dude, you’re too mild mannered to be booted
Even with your whole “come down to Inman park – no gloves” thing
Soothsayer
July 17th, 2012
8:21 pm
If the International Monetary Fund is right, in a mere four years the U.S. will no longer be the world’s largest economy. By 2016, the People’s Republic of China’s total economic output will eclipse that of the U.S. Should this prediction prove true, Americans will see their nation knocked off a pedestal it has occupied for so long that holding any other place has become simply unimaginable.
Amazing how they became rich and we became poor, isn’t it? What could possibly explain such a thing? It’s way beyond a simple man like me.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:23 pm
More concerned about what congress and the current administration is doing with my money than what Romney is doing with his…
Yawn.
At least the 24th time that’s been posted here.
Obama is over
July 17th, 2012
8:24 pm
Romney should probably go ahead and release the tax returns. It will result in Obama yelling about sheltering income overseas and other tax driven strategies. None of this political rhetoric will help solve the problems facing the country today. The sad truth is that if Obama is re-elected, the only business thay will grow faster than tax shelter strategies from acountants and lawyers will be health care fraud. Have fun on vaca.
tireofit
July 17th, 2012
8:25 pm
Get the backup candidate warming up, this one may be toast soon.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:26 pm
The candidates will debate policy and the issues when there are 4 weeks left
Until then it is all BS and mud slinging / tit for tat / sandbox level debate
getalife
July 17th, 2012
8:26 pm
ron paul has more spine.
bill
July 17th, 2012
8:30 pm
So when is Obama going to releae his college records?
How about documents on how he sent guns to drug lords in Mexico how have murdered hundreds of people including Americans?
How pathetic the left is harping on nonsense like this when real crime by the Obama administration just continues on a daily basics.
How many billions of tax dollars in stimulus has Obamam sent to other countries?
How many billions of our tax dollars has he diverted to his union thug buddies?
how many billions of tax dollars have been wasted on his “shovel ready job nonsense”?
No it is much more important that liberal rags like the AJC harp on what Mitt did with HIS OWN MONEY! NOT TAX DOLLARS BUT HIS OWN MONEY.
Funny how nobody points out how Obama used every trick in the book to avoid taxes on his money.
He and mooochelle even gave the max amount of cash to their daughtes “as a gift” to avoid taxes on that.
Libs are so two faced. Clinton used to deduct $4 for every pair of old underwear he gave away.
Wake up people and see what a con job the left are.
josef
July 17th, 2012
8:31 pm
BOTH
Come down to Inman Park with the gloves….
I saw him at Whole Foods paying for these with his Food Stamp Card…
http://p.lefux.com/61/20100719/A2244000CM/wedding-lace-gloves-wrist-length-flower-1-big.jpg
John P. Picklenose
July 17th, 2012
8:32 pm
Yeah, you got that right.
left got punked.
again.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:32 pm
bill, bill, bill
I have some extra twine in case you need to restring your pearls.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:32 pm
pogo
July 17th, 2012
5:27 pm
[...]
…even if Obama is re-elected in November…
Obama is over
July 17th, 2012
8:24 pm
[...] The sad truth is that if Obama is re-elected…
A few months ago, it was we could nominate Elmer Fudd and he would beat Obama.
What gives?
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
8:33 pm
bill,
you left out all the really juicy stuff about Jimmy Carter in that rant of yours.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:34 pm
Hi Tax
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:34 pm
Jm
That still stands. But I digress and will save the amping up for more appropriate times.
marko
July 17th, 2012
8:35 pm
Soothsayer , we’re only 5% of the worlds population.The bulk of our wealth is held by a tiny percentage of that small group. The Chinese are 25% of the global population. In short our position as the world’s number one economy isn’t anymore sustainable than our current lifestyles. Six billion souls share this little blue marble. What if they all drove SUV’s?
josef
July 17th, 2012
8:35 pm
MIDORI
Let’s see now, Bill don’t like Michelle and knows what Clinton’s used underwear sell for…is there a connection there?
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:35 pm
josef
It is the Section 8 housing that I live in that is the kicker………
Food stamps is the small stuff
bman
July 17th, 2012
8:35 pm
I’m guessing Romney will release his returns sooner or later. Probably sooner. Whatever the reruns show, it’s just going to be a little extra ammo for Obama.
Race, $, Bush. That’s all you will hear Obama talk about until the election. The economy may slow even more, but Obama will use those 3 on his never-ending blame game.
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
8:36 pm
“You challenge and make assertions all the time. Never asked you or anyone to change their belief system, so you can save that one.”
Oh yes you have. You say that you understand the Christian perspective based on your early years of upbringing yet you seem to be saying you’ve rejected the beliefs that you were once taught and reject those who’ve found true faith from whatever way. Far different from me as I wasn’t brought up that way but found Christ late in life and I’m still learning. If you’ve rejected the faith you were exposed to in your early years, I’m not far enough in my walk to help you but never the less I wish you well , however, please don’t condemn those of us that believe differently than you.
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
8:36 pm
Hi Midori. How r u
weetamoe
July 17th, 2012
8:36 pm
July 18, 1969: Mary Jo Kopechne died in the back seat of a car driven and then abandoned by ultra wealthy Teddy Kennedy, tossed out of college for cheating, never worked a day in his life, long term holder of senate seat bought with daddy’s dollars, exceedingly generous with other people’s money, hero of the democrat party.
St Simons
July 17th, 2012
8:36 pm
You do have to wonder why he hasn’t.
No, not really. The gold nugget is 1999-2002. He’s gonna try an
intermediate step of ‘hey, here’s 10 years’ stopping at 2002.
But nooooo, that’s not the dealio. There’s something fugly between
99-02, my years of ’sperience say.
And what’s more interesting I believe than tax returns, is his
divesture of Bain, a $4 bil company after which he claimed
his net worth was $200 mil, while simultaneously claiming
he’s a ‘good bidnessman.’
That’s like the Premier division of Clearchannel claiming $200mil
in revenues, while paying one personality (fat pigboy Rush) $400mil,
all the while screeching ‘let the freeeee market decide’
at least they’re consistent with their goofiness. They don’t even
care about the truth anymore, they’re just flingin poo at this point.
and no matter how stupid the gen public is, they aint THAT stupid.
Four more years.Guaranteed.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:37 pm
LOL, Josef — thanks for translating that for me
doing good Tax. This blog is a barrel of laughs tonight
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:39 pm
LOL – Now we are “retroactively” watching the news from 1969
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:40 pm
…hero of the democrat party.
Presidential contender, never nominated.
Hero?
No, not so much.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:40 pm
weetamoe — how much further do we need to travel back into the future to view Mitten’s retirement from Bain?
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
8:40 pm
Just remember, Bill, no matter what kinda problems you have, they can all be washed down with an ice cold Billy Beer. And don’t forget to save the leftovers.
getalife
July 17th, 2012
8:41 pm
lil bill,
We are awake and the con job from you cons failed.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:41 pm
Kam 8:23
It is kinda old
But that’s where we are
Sound bite land
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:42 pm
But that’s where we are
Sound bite land
And in related news: water is still wet.
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
8:42 pm
“Four more years.Guaranteed.”
By no means at all guaranteed.
David Granger
July 17th, 2012
8:43 pm
I do agree with you, Jay, and with the others who have called upon Romney to release all his tax returns. I believe he should, and the longer he refuses to do so the more it hurts him.
I disagree with the “National Review”, however, and do believe that the refusal of Teresa Heinz Kerry to release her tax returns is a valid comparison. During his Presidential campaign, John Kerry was critical of companies that outsourced jobs and that kept large amounts of cash overseas in order to avoid taxes and of large corporations who paid absolutely no taxes, and I think that the voters had a right to know whether his own wife owned stock in companies that did the very things he was complaining about.
And I also feel that, like both John Kerry and George Bush, President Obama should release his college transcripts and materials. I am not a birther, and DO believe that the President is a citizen. His mother was a citizen and he was born in Hawaii, and that settles it. But I do believe that we voters have the right to know whether or not he ever claimed foreign citizenship in order to qualify for financial aid programs or for special acceptance programs that were only available to foreign nationals. And I also believe that we have the right to read some of his college papers and writings on important legal topics. President Obama was the first African-American editor of the Harvard Law Review, and no one earns that post without having a collection of writings on various legal points to present in support of their application. And I believe that we have the right to read some of his ideas and analysis of key legal issues. We have been able to do that with other candidates in the past, and I think the voters deserve to read those legal briefs.
Like Romney’s refusal to release his tax returns…the more the refusal, the more suspicious it becomes. And as you point out, you do have to wonder why he hasn’t.
St Simons
July 17th, 2012
8:43 pm
Ron Paul is waiting in the wings. Remember – He’s transformational!
Newt is wading in the wings – no really, they’re 2 for $1 til 7pm
getalife
July 17th, 2012
8:44 pm
Just like 08.
The gop are running the same campaign but no hail mary pass like palin yet.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:45 pm
Recon
Ok man. If you can show were I have broad brushed all Christians, show it. You are one of the Kings of making derogatory comments, assertions and claims to what seems like all of the left, Democrats, etc on a regular basis.
You see it your way and I see it mine. With that said, we are all welcome to challenge and exchange on this board.
If you do not like being challenged when you make unsubstantiated assertions and claims, best I can say is not to make them. However, that is your choice, but I live on a two way street.
“I’m not far enough in my walk to help you ” Wasn’t a sad departure more than it was a progression. Kind of the like the opposite of your progression. So no assistance needed, but thanks for the offer……….. I guess.
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
8:45 pm
“I’m not a birther.” – Orly Taitz
Jay
July 17th, 2012
8:46 pm
By no means at all guaranteed.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:46 pm
I am not a birther, and DO believe that the President is a citizen. His mother was a citizen and he was born in Hawaii, and that settles it. But…
That “but” makes you a birther.
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
8:47 pm
The GOP saved a step this time around and picked Mitt as their hail Mary.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:47 pm
Jay
Not guaranteed by a long shot. I think Obama will win but it will be much closer than people think, either way.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:49 pm
“Oh yes you have”
Going to call lie in regards to TBS ever asking anyone of this blog to change their belief system. Challenge, debate, argue, get feisty……………. GUILTY.
Change……….. NEVER
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
8:50 pm
I remember Birther. Birther But. She was one of the But sisters.
getalife
July 17th, 2012
8:52 pm
Tax,
Now the cons will say see, we need to run a con.
0-2 on the moderates.
josef
July 17th, 2012
8:52 pm
According to the Romany Lady, it looks like Obama in the Electoral College, but the popular vote is still iffy…
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
8:53 pm
I see no reason for Romney to release his tax returns. His 011 returns are still being prepared and he released his returns for 20 years when McCain was vetting him as a possible running mate in 08. McCain came out today saying that there was no issue with Romney’s tax return filings. Why should Romney give in to anyone when the voters aren’t concerned. The left wing libs should read the polls and not their favorite lefty Web sites.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:54 pm
Democrats calling bank of America Stadium the “panther stadium”
Ah the absurdity
McColl is probably annoyed
Another Romney fundraiser after the convention
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:54 pm
“Does this birther make my butt look fat?”
– Thomas Jefferson
josef
July 17th, 2012
8:54 pm
TAXI
“I remember Birther. Birther But. She was one of the But sisters.”
Now, thass funny!
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:55 pm
Recon
On that we agree. Story is old already. But Romney camp as no reason to cry about lies and bs. They have been spewing themselves as all big campaigns do
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:57 pm
Birther but is what you get when you’re pregnant
independent thinker.
July 17th, 2012
8:57 pm
Michael Steele just said on MSNBC that if Romney does not release his tax returns , he may not make it to the nomination. Anybody heard from Newt lately?
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:59 pm
Repubs are absurd
Jm
July 17th, 2012
9:00 pm
Retraction
Michael Steele is absurd
Just saying..
July 17th, 2012
9:00 pm
“The cons are throwing Romney under the bus so they can pick someone else.”
Honestly, I’ve begun to think that’s a possibility.
Pardon My Blog
July 17th, 2012
9:00 pm
Nothing is to be accomplished by Romney releasing prior returns just as nothing is accomplished by Obama releasing his school records. We know that Romney has done well and paid his taxes according to the tax code and we know that Obama was a druggy and did not learn much at school!
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
9:01 pm
“You are one of the Kings of making derogatory comments,”
Of course you never put up any examples but your “broad brushes” now do you.
Lets agree to this, you don’t like me and you’ve convinced me now that I wouldn’t like you, so lets just ignore each other. Fair enough?
RB from Gwinnett
July 17th, 2012
9:01 pm
Note to Romney… You could relase your tax returns back to your first filing when you were 10 and it won’t matter because your tax returns are not the issue. The issue is the liberal and their useful idiots like Bookman are desparate to make the conversation be about Obama, his lack of a record to run on, and the absolutely astounding blather he uttered recently about business owners owing their success to the government they fund with their tax dollars. Don’t waste your time on them or their sheep who will blindly follow them off a cliff if Bill Maher says to.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 17th, 2012
9:02 pm
Anybody heard from Newt lately?
Nope. Been too busy checking to see if he’s in GA. I got to make sure before I leave the missus alone in the trailer.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
9:06 pm
“Bill Maher”
Too funny!
Obambarrassment
July 17th, 2012
9:07 pm
The media hurts Romney’s effort by criticizing his limited release of tax returns brought up by the Obama campaign.
For years the media criticizes the effort to entice Obama to release his birth certificate, an issue brought up by conservatives. They even coined a term, “birthers” to sneer and heap derision on those actively concerned with the issue.
We see how things are in “the media.” Vetting is a selective thing here in media-land. The Washington press corps isn’t in the White House to report the news, but to protect Obama from scandal.
Also, you can’t say that National Review is very conservative, not since Rich Lowry took over.
Ahem
July 17th, 2012
9:07 pm
Hey Waterboy. Will you also advocate for Obama to take the “hold” off all the records relating to his past? Things like college writings and transcripts? Passport records? Student loans? Grades? Affiliations? Well, will you? And since you are now amusingly comfortably with citing “conservative” sources…
The star of a pro-Obama super PAC ad is speaking out against … President Barack Obama.
“I could really care less about Obama,” Donnie Box says of President Obama, according to In These Times. “I think Obama is a jerk, a pantywaist, a lightweight, a blowhard. He hasn’t done a goddamn thing that he said he would do. When he had a Democratic Senate and Democratic Congress, he didn’t do a damn thing. He doesn’t have the guts to say what’s on his mind.”
Box, In These Times reports, won’t be voting for Obama.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/star-pro-obama-super-pac-ad-unleashed-obama-jerk-pantywaist-lightweight-blowhard_648688.html
John D. Picklenose
July 17th, 2012
9:08 pm
kwishwa!
snick your nose up in this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufb6T-av-rU
Jm
July 17th, 2012
9:08 pm
Newt is as likely to be the nominee as Abe Lincoln
Obambarrassment
July 17th, 2012
9:10 pm
Michael Steele just said on MSNBC that if Romney does not release his tax returns , he may not make it to the nomination. Anybody heard from Newt lately?
thinker,
Think.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
9:10 pm
I want to see “the campaign”
Btw, side note, I hear bush takes a beating in the movie, so be prepared if you see it
Jm
July 17th, 2012
9:12 pm
Libs should consider Romney might be pulling a “birth certificate” on them
Who knows though
Ahem
July 17th, 2012
9:13 pm
And agian I say that I like Trump’s idea, albeit a good deal more than Trump.
Romney should publicly and loudly agree to release his tax returns simultaneously with Obama releasing his college records and congressional records. Would that somehow be unfair?!?
Obama is over
July 17th, 2012
9:15 pm
Kamchak
I am still confident that Obama has less support than he did in 2008. The vast number of people affected by the recession are not seeing any progress or creative ideas coming out of the administration to get us out of this mess. The American dream used to involve self sufficiency and personal freedom. It was considered embarassing to be dependent on the Government dole. Obama wants it to be socially acceptable to be dependent on the Government because he thinks he knows what is best for our interests. You can’t blame him. This comes from his background as a community organizer. He simply does not have the experience to grow the economy, completely overhaul the tax code (like 1986), or address entitlement reform. Because of his background, Obama’s proposals (when we get them) are always going to be tax the rich because the man is keeping me down. Unfortunately, the problems facing the U.S. today are bigger than Obama can handle. Romney may be boring, but he has successfully turned around $billion problems with his own money. He would be a more responsible guardian of ours.
St Simons
July 17th, 2012
9:15 pm
when he loses, the Republicans will retroactively recall him
as their candidate.
USMFail
July 17th, 2012
9:20 pm
USMC
July 17th, 2012
6:29 pm
“Show us YOUR Harvard Cum-Laude law degree. Or are you saying you’re not as intelligent?”
I will show you my college transcripts when Caesar Obama shows HIS. Oh wait!
The fact you don’t know the difference between degree and transcript says all we need to know.
Obambarrassment
July 17th, 2012
9:20 pm
St. Simons,
And in the next “open” debate about some creeping socialist legislative issue in the second Obama term, say, raising federal taxes to 50%, the President will pout and say simply, “guys, I won!”
Jm
July 17th, 2012
9:21 pm
Ahem
No one cares about obama’s grades or should they at this point
His policies are enough to judge him on
And no one should care about romney’s tax returns much either, but clearly many do
Jay – perhaps you should thank all the con media
If Romney releases his tax returns, it will highlight every loophole out there and help make the case for tax reform
And the con media surely knows this or they’re idiots…..
Wait a sec….
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
9:22 pm
I am still confident that Obama has less support than he did in 2008.
Yet, despite your nom de blog (Obama is over) you posited, “…if Obama is re-elected…
You’ve already ceded your confidence.
You can’t walk it back now.
Four more years.
Obambarrassment
July 17th, 2012
9:22 pm
You do have to wonder why he hasn’t.
What you don’t wonder is why the Democrats aren’t talking about Obama’s record instead of Romney’s taxes.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
9:23 pm
Obama is over 9:15
99% amen
St Simons
July 17th, 2012
9:29 pm
Libs should consider Romney might be pulling a ‘birf certificate’ on them
I don’t think there’s anything illegal in his taxes. I’m sure the audits
in 08 were thorough.
I think they are the holy grail of what’s WRONG with our taxes.
And one of two things is the case –
-he doesn’t want you to see that wrong-ness documented
& personalized/crystallized into one Mitt Rmoney, or
-Lord High Hair-gel doesn’t think you deserve to see them
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
9:31 pm
Recon
Example of a broad brush would be your post about the left and their comprehension of the Biblical passage How fresh can the paint on the brush be?
And your example of me vilifying and entire group of people would be?
peace
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
9:31 pm
jay,
you should probably tell your leftist leader to not go off teleprompter until the election is over….he denigrates success, and more people saw a little glimpse into the radical nature of this clown on friday…..like i said, his own words will destroy your party……i’ll borrow the words you borrowed from me……he and you will reap what you have sowed on this country since radical pelosi and reid got the purse strings in 07′…..all gub’t all the time, right jay? it’s too easy to expose the failings of your ideology and hussein makes it easier every time he opens his mouth
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
9:31 pm
Tax returns are far less important to the voters than results over the past four years of this failed presidency. Obamanation must/should be voted out of office in November. On that statement, I’m out…Taps
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
9:33 pm
“Libs should consider Romney might be pulling a “birth certificate” on them”
I alluded to that earlier. Could be the case. I think you or someone else said it, the returns probably have a fairly low percentage of taxes paid to income earned. Not that he did anything illegal, but it would offer ammo
Oscar
July 17th, 2012
9:33 pm
My guesss is that is he releases his returns and they are gone over carefully, they will show some false reporting or valuations of assets in the value of the contributions he made to his IRA account. He has over 100 million in the account. There could be some other problems.
Also there could be some infomation about who he has been doing business with over the years as partners and investors that could be damaging.
But he is a man of priciple who believes he should not be forced to reveal his personal private business.
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
9:34 pm
jay,
was obama’s first fundraiser in politics held in unrepentant domestic terrorist bill ayers’ house? simple yes or no…..
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
9:35 pm
speaking of teleprompters
Mitt needs to call Obama for some lessons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ubsRRAADTg
“end of quote”
hahahahaha
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
9:36 pm
obama appointed a tax cheat to run the treasury…..you liberals are so ridiculous, if you need a boogeyman geithner is right there for you to continue to ignore…..easy
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
9:36 pm
“And your example of me vilifying and entire group of people would be?”
I vilified no one personally. I vilified sin and you know what I posted. I have no further use for you. You are a liar.
JamVet
July 17th, 2012
9:37 pm
I am not much into schadenfreude.
And after Barry’s win in 2008, I had very little it say to or about these petulant sore losers that comprise the ranks of the fake conservatives.
But after the past four years of unmitigated insanity and the putrifying ODS by these anti-patriots, this time I will make an exception…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
9:37 pm
Billybob
“Wreaking” of “desparation”
TGT
July 17th, 2012
9:37 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
So you libs are still in a tizzy over Romney’s tax returns, yet you voted into the highest office in the land a man with the most mysterious and secretive past in the history of the United States. He allows the narrative that he was born abroad to be published for decades. He’s extremely secretive about his birth certificate–to the point that his own supporters call him out on it. His college records are virtually non-existant. He’s involved in a shady land deal with a man now in prison. In his young adult life he’s surrounded by racists, communists, and terrorists, yet you libs are obsessed with Romney’s 50-year-old pranks and the fact that he’s wealthy (though not as wealthy as the Kennedy’s or several other U.S. Presidents).
I suppose this is what you cling to when you have nothing positive you can run on.
Remember 2010 libs, it’s about to happen all over again.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
9:38 pm
Recon
Look in the mirror and have another
Jm
July 17th, 2012
9:39 pm
Oscar
I doubt many of those IRA contribution were in the last 12 years
ragnar danneskjold
July 17th, 2012
9:39 pm
National Review used to be a conservative magazine, when Buckley was alive. Today their principles align with the standard RINO view of the world, i.e., not so different from those of Clinton democrats.
TGT
July 17th, 2012
9:40 pm
excuse me: yet you voted into the highest office in the land a man with the most mysterious and secretive past in the history of the United States elections
ragnar danneskjold
July 17th, 2012
9:43 pm
Four years ago John McCain saw 20 years of Romney tax returns, when he was vetting Romney for the VP position. Today McCain said there was nothing odd in those returns. Even if I disagree with McCain’s “overlord” view of the world, I think he is an honest fellow (at least compared to the current occupant of the Oval office) and his “blessing” on such a trivial matter as tax returns is sufficient for my desires.
Since the only issue in this camapaign is “who is the most competent candidate to make the economy move,” the tax returns do nothing to mitigate Obama’s horrific records.
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
9:43 pm
kam,
what you call “Wreaking” of “desparation”…..i call two facts that you can’t deny…..spelling is as spelling does……if that’s all you got you can have it all……easy
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
9:43 pm
Also, you can’t say that National Review is very conservative…
National Review used to be a conservative magazine…
From the No True Scotsman school of logical fallacies.
ragnar danneskjold
July 17th, 2012
9:44 pm
I want to see every math grade Obama received after the 10th grade – I have to think that would explain much.
JamVet
July 17th, 2012
9:45 pm
To the horrifyingly unread and the willfully ignorant everything must seem tuber-secretive and mysterious.
As I noted last night, intellectual curiosity in the GOP is dead. Kaput. Rigor motis has set in…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svh6v2uWd1E
Jm
July 17th, 2012
9:45 pm
Recon 9:31
True
Tbs could be
Jay- dry flies
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
9:47 pm
My bad I mistook vilification for some sort of accolade…….
Wow is me.
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
4:57 pm
Love the sinner, hate the sin.
Basic Christianity–unique in the world, I might add.
The left has no comprehension of what that means.
Good night, Recon. Have a great week
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
9:47 pm
ask libs to defend facts about obama and they either garner amnesia or what you hear is crickets or they make fun of diction or your spelling or misdirect to another topic…..democrat leaders want success to start and end with gov’t….conservatives think success should start and end with each and every individual…..conservatives 1, democrats 0…..liberal is the gutless choice…..easy
Matti's favorite mascot t-shirt
July 17th, 2012
9:48 pm
Ah, the Rand cultist weighs in by explaining that conservatives are simply not conservative enough for Rand cultists. Well now, that changes everything! Nevermind! Suddenly, the money a Presidential candidate makes and how he makes it are no longer pertinent. Thankyewsomuuuuuch!
JamVet
July 17th, 2012
9:48 pm
Actually, using the word wreaking instead of reeking speaks to problems much more severe than chronic spelling and grammatical problems.
It speaks to a disastrous vocabulary issue.
Being poorly written does not lend itself to making persuasive arguments…
Jm
July 17th, 2012
9:50 pm
Ragnar
Obama got an A in social studies
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
9:55 pm
many comments and a couple of spelling mistakes…..actually lends itself to the substance and level of your arguments….ignore actual issues and facts about obama and dance on the perimeter wasting time about nothing…..jay needs one more on his ship, i nominate you sir
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
10:00 pm
‘if you got a business, you didn’t build that, somebody else made that happen’……
i may misspell a word from time to time, but our current president has no clue about the economic engine of this country and is currently running against the economic engine of this country which is capitalism…..and people like you want to parse inconsequential words instead of opening your eyes to the disaster this socialist is…..again easy
ragnar danneskjold
July 17th, 2012
10:01 pm
Dear Kamchak @ 9:43, good evening, a citation to a flawed authority is therefore a flawed citation – error charged to Bookman.
Dear Jm @ 9:50, good evening, suppose it could be worse – major in basket weaving or women’s studies or some such other slightly less useful area.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 17th, 2012
10:02 pm
“In other words, get it all out and get it over with, because this current stance is unsustainable. But of course, the more stubbornly Romney refuses to follow the advice even of his friends and supporters, the more suspicious his behavior becomes. This is something that he should have handled back during the primaries, or at the very least right after clinching the nomination.”
Kind of like Eric Holder ?
JamVet
July 17th, 2012
10:02 pm
Worse even than struggling to demonstrate a mastery of our native tongue beyond a seventh grade level, is how the rank and file con on these forums is so culturally, scientifically and historically illiterate.
What’s up with that?
It certainly explains why almost none of them are apparently capable of basic research or “showing their work”.
Almost to a man they are incapable of providing empirical data or proof. It truly seems beyond their grasp. Thus for them opinions are facts and the basic, long established truths are of no value at all.
I’m not sure who wrote their resumes for them, but I presume that it was someone more than their semi-literate selves.
Either that, or they have jobs befitting those “skills”…
ragnar danneskjold
July 17th, 2012
10:02 pm
I don’t care about Romney’s tax returns. I want to see the tax returns of those who deliver my daily news, to prove the absence of corruption.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:03 pm
Billy bob 10
Yep. Btw my wife can’t spell but she’s smart as a whip
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
10:03 pm
a citation to a flawed authority is therefore a flawed citation – error charged to Bookman.
Doubling down on the No True Scotsman.
I expect no more from a Randroid.
Whahema
July 17th, 2012
10:03 pm
America to Obama: Stop attacking success.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 17th, 2012
10:05 pm
YOU GUYS DIDN’T BUILD THAT !
http://asianconservatives.com/government/obama-to-wright-bros-you-guys-didnt-build-that/
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:06 pm
Ragnar 10:01
Obama probably also got an A in “labor economics”
(the fancy term for wealth distribution Econ)
stands for decibels
July 17th, 2012
10:06 pm
I’m pretty sure I thought Romney’s decision not to follow in his father’s footsteps re: releasing more than just a bare-minimum tax history was going to bite him in the butt, eventually. Actually, I thought it would be a bigger deal during the primaries, but — better late than never.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
10:07 pm
“There aint no good guy. There aint no bad guy. There’s only you and me, and we both disagree”
Thomas Jefferson
Obama
July 17th, 2012
10:08 pm
“Whahema
July 17th, 2012
10:03 pm
America to Obama: Stop attacking success.”
-transmission error-
-message not received-
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 17th, 2012
10:08 pm
Recon:
………….. and how many Americans have given their lives for these knuckleheads ?
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/07/17/guns-banned-for-usfk-town-patrols.html#.UAXT6McLNic.email
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
10:08 pm
kam says conservatives are stupid liars that can’t write…….i think his words are very enlightening…..
did obama’s political career start in domestic terrorist bill ayers’ house with a fundraiser?
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:09 pm
Tbs 10:07 true words…..
ragnar danneskjold
July 17th, 2012
10:09 pm
Dear Kamchak @ 10:03, sorry to break your heart, but you know only leftists march lock step to whatever tune their overlords play. If Bookman cites a purportedly conservative authority to persuade – who, conservatives? – and it fails, why does it fail? Because he erroneously assumed that conservatives are like leftists, and respond to that citation to authority. Conservatives respond to intelligent arguments, which are MIA on this discussion.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
10:09 pm
“If you like Pina Coladas
And getting caught in the rain
If you’re not into yoga
If you have half a brain
If you’d like making love at midnight
In the dunes on the Cape
Then I’m the love that you’ve looked for
Write to me and escape.”
– Thomas Jefferson
jconservative
July 17th, 2012
10:10 pm
Today the campaign is about Romney and not about the economy.
Romney needs to clean house of all the incompetent staffers he has had for the last year.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:10 pm
The problem with Obama is that he has offended every American that works their tail off
Which is a pretty big number of Americans
Though it appears to be a dwindling number
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
10:11 pm
…but you know only leftists march lock step to whatever tune their overlords play.
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:12 pm
Jcon
The race will be decided in the last 30 days IMO
And Romney is gearing up
Just wait and be patient….
TGT
July 17th, 2012
10:13 pm
Prediction: If Romney decides to release more tax returns, it will be revealed, much to liberal’s dismay, that Romney gave more to charity than anyone in U.S. presidential election history.
ragnar danneskjold
July 17th, 2012
10:13 pm
Dear Jm @ 10:06, ha. I took Vandy’s course in “labor economics” – probably not as thorough as those taken by Fearless Leader. Wonder if they still teach that? Kinda like “anti-trust,” a dead field.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
10:13 pm
I hear you knocking Billy-poo, but you can’t come in.
JamVet
July 17th, 2012
10:14 pm
Back in the 1980s I became somewhat interested and more tha a little appalled at the obvious “dumbing down” of America.
I bought two excellent books, Cultural Illiteracy and The Closing of the American Mind that spoke to this sad state of affairs.
How could I possibly have know then that the once proud Republican Party would go on to champion these ideas?
Tragic…
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:15 pm
Tho he does need to turn the dialogue appropriately back to the economy
ragnar danneskjold
July 17th, 2012
10:15 pm
Dear Kamchak @ 10:11, should have guessed Psilocybin – always wondered what they must have been smoking.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:16 pm
Ragnar
They definitely still teach it
It’s not all garbage, but some of it definitely is
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
10:19 pm
Rags @ 10:09
You are either being disingenuous or ignorant when you speak of marching in lock step. There are those who march to the left and to the right. PERIOD
And there are individuals all over the political spectrum on any given issue.
Only a FOOL would think it is a one way street.
For someone whose writing would lead one to think you were fairly intelligent, it surely doesn’t manifests itself in the details of the posts.
I’m not saying that based on your political views, but your naive or ignorant views of those who do not march in “lock step” with your ideology. Same can be said for several lefties on this blog as well.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:20 pm
Obama aced “Political Philosophy: Marxism”
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
10:21 pm
hearing my knock tells me all i need to know…..remember, i may be one of those vampire capitalists so don’t invite me in….ever
jam,
ignore facts and change subject…did obama start his career in a domestic terrorists living room with a fundraiser? simple yes or no…..jay won’t anser will you or do you want to do some more of that projection thingy?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
10:22 pm
Psilocybin – always wondered what they must have been smoking.
Could be worse, I suppose.
Coulda been freaked out paranoid meth-heads like Ayn Rand.
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
10:23 pm
how bout dat dere bone?
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
10:23 pm
Rags
But do carry on. Even when it is pure unadulterated crap, you are still eloquent with your wording.
JamVet
July 17th, 2012
10:24 pm
Speaking of stuck on stupid – “Marxism”.
Sixty years on and these lamebrains are still McCarthyites???
Beyond insane…
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:29 pm
Jam
Fukuyama was right, end of history
Marxism won
gm
July 17th, 2012
10:30 pm
Billybob
The name says it all, shut off racist, misinformed fox news and pull up the tape, oh I forgot you can not reseach for yourself.
Obama says Americans build the roads for business to operate, most business dont do their own consruction, most of the hicks on the right would not know a socialist if it handed you a new trailer.
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
10:33 pm
jam,
what’s insane is that obama’s own words and views and ideas have used many of the tenets of marxism to argue against the capitalist system in this country and you are blinded to neither hear or see it……when this guy is no longer destroying our country is the time that all of his supporters will actually see the man for what he is…..his words after he is out of office will open everyone’s eyes…..not just the future leaders of our country who will celebrate success and the greatest economic system ever created instead of trying to tear it down…..too much easy tonight, must save some for another day of reading liberal political hackism from jaylo’….good night all
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
10:35 pm
gm
Big on hyperbole and rhetoric? With out a doubt
Lot’s of misinformation intertwined with a sprinkle of facts? With out a doubt
Racist? Might be a strong word, to say the least, based on his posts. That is unless you know him
gm
July 17th, 2012
10:36 pm
Lets see, is Rush scum Limbaugh qualified to bad mouth the President?
1. Drop out of Jr. College with a D average
2. Ex Druger
3. Top 20 ex DJ
3. Can any body tell me what cause he ever stood up and lead other then siting behind a mic? yet he makes 100 million off these idiots on the right only in America””
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 17th, 2012
10:36 pm
WELCOME TO THE “OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT” CAMPAIGN BLOG
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
10:37 pm
liberalism 101 alert in…..3…..2……1……
gm….nice job…..that was easy…..next
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:39 pm
GM
Limbaugh is in many ways an idiot
Obama is a well educated idiot
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:41 pm
Scout, yes it is
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
10:41 pm
any lib answer true or false….did obama start his political career with a fundraiser in domestic terrorist bill ayers house? i guess i will answer for you…..TRUE
tbs,
pc is out the window, so racist doesn’t shut people up anymore and libs hate that…..gm sounds like he is looking for another bailout…….
G Mare
July 17th, 2012
10:42 pm
Lotta’ con desperation on display here!
gm
July 17th, 2012
10:44 pm
Only a bunch of idiots on the right can sit there and listen to their boss who has shut down there plants sent there jobs overseas then come back years later and tell them he wants to be there boss again.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
10:44 pm
Billybob
I didn’t call you a racist. Actually said you were not, so why the crying.
Get mad at gm, not me.
DwayneL
July 17th, 2012
10:45 pm
Why are obama’s college transcripts sealed? How did he pay for that ivy league education? Why is his SS# issued in CT??? These are much more pressing questions!!!
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:45 pm
G mare
Nahhhh
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
10:46 pm
Billybob
Tell us all about the start of Obama’s career and how that went down………
Was it a fundraiser? A long meeting? Seeing that I only catch the lame stream media, I probably missed all the juicy details.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:47 pm
“Only a bunch of idiots on the right can sit there and listen to their boss who has shut down there plants sent there jobs overseas then come back years later and tell them he wants to be there boss again.”
Someone bought the lib propaganda hook line and sinker
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
10:48 pm
OH NOES! THE VILLAIN IN THE NEW BATMAN FILM IS CALLED BANE! IT’S A LIBERAL CONSPIRACY FOISTED BY HOLLYWOOD TO SMEAR ROMNEY!
RELEASE THE KRAKEN!
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
10:48 pm
facts about obama = desperation to democrats….brilliant
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
10:49 pm
BB
Of course he knew of Bill Ayers so that is a given. Now move on to the juicy details.
I’m sure Horowitz, Limbaugh ( the writer not Rush), Coulter and the like have the inside scoop and have provide all the details.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:49 pm
Dwayne
All transcripts are sealed and private silly
He probably paid with student loans – no shocker there
The CT thing is new to me but I’d guess there’s a reasonable explanation
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
10:52 pm
Barnum and Bailey strikes again. He just laughs to the bank at his minions who actually believe this stuff. Same as Maddow, Shultz, etc.
Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh on Tuesday suggested that Hollywood liberals have been plotting for years to release the third and final Batman movie before the election in 2012 with a villain who’s name sounds like GOP hopeful Mitt Romney’s former company, Bain Capital.
“Do you know the name of the villain in this movie?” Limbaugh asked his listeners. “Bane. The villain in ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ is named Bane. B-A-N-E. What is the name of the venture capital firm that Romney ran and around which there is now this make-believe controversy? Bain.”
“The movie has been in the works for a long time, the release date has been known — summer 2012 — for a long time,” he added. “Do you think that it is accidental that the name of the really vicious, fire-breathing, four-eyed, what-ever-it-is villain in this movie is named Bane?”
“And now there’s discussion out there as to whether or not this was purposeful and whether or not it will influence voters. It’s going to have a lot of people. This movie, the audience is going to be huge. A lot of people are going to see the movie, and it’s a lot of brain-dead people, entertaining the pop-culture crowd. And they’re going to hear ‘Bane’ in the movie and they’re going to associate ‘Bain’ and the thought is that when they start paying attention to the campaign later in the year and Obama and the Democrats keep talking about Bain — not Bain Capital — Romney and Bain that these people will think back to the bad man.”
Acer706
July 17th, 2012
10:52 pm
Why do we care what Romney did with his own money?
Shouldn’t we be more worried about what Obama is doing with our money?
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:53 pm
“OH NOES! THE VILLAIN IN THE NEW BATMAN FILM IS CALLED BANE”
The dnc and Obama are the ones trying to make a big deal out of this and snowball voters on it
The dnc is lost
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 17th, 2012
10:53 pm
Jm:
“He probably paid with student loans – no shocker there”
Maybe ………. but since he was a U.S. citizen did he apply for student aid as a foreign student?
gm
July 17th, 2012
10:54 pm
Willard stated if elected he will come visit all the trailer parks along 75 South and tell these people how to have a 100 million 401k, ha, ha,
Billybob
July 17th, 2012
10:54 pm
tbs,
was responding to your post and the racist slant was directed at gm and people like gm who play the racist card…there was no whining though, just the fact that the lib pc tactic doesn’t work to shut people up anymore
tbs,
it was a political fundraiser to start his political career in ayers’ living room, uh…..i mean in the living room of ‘just some guy from the neighborhood’(his words, not mine)
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
10:55 pm
The dnc and Obama are the ones trying to make a big deal out of this and snowball voters on it
No, Limbaugh is the one making a big deal out of it.
What a naif!
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
10:56 pm
Jm
It is election time. While you thought it was crap, some people still buy into the birther bs, Muslim, etc stories. Not as many as a few years ago, but it is still out there and articles that are not old can be read on right leaning websites regarding these issues.
All sides hype up crap and lie………….. Yes even Obama and the DNC
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:57 pm
“bane”
Silly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bane_(comics)
They must have known Romney would run all the way back in 1993 /sarc/
JamVet
July 17th, 2012
10:59 pm
Limbaugh is much worse than being a garden variety idiot; he is a depraved, malicious liar who profits enormously from selling snake oil to you guppies. Who gulp all of it right down.
But perhaps the most remarkable thing is how so many of you neocons emulate another depraved liar and infamous scumbag in American history – Joseph McCarthy.
Arguably one of the most disgusting men to have ever walked the halls of our Capitol Building.
Yet you revere him and his ideology of blind hatred and anti-American stupidity. Look at that disgraced and disgraceful Alan West for proof.
What more needs to be said?
Jm
July 17th, 2012
10:59 pm
Scout 10:53
I see no need to discuss obama’s history pre-presidency at this point
His record is so bad, it should stand (or fall) on its own
Republicans can and should take Obama down on his policies and record
gm
July 17th, 2012
11:01 pm
Hey Mitt, gov is bad, so thats why you took millions of dollars from the gov to help fund the Olympics, what a bunch of hypocrites on the right.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
11:02 pm
BB
He did go to Ayers home for a meet and greet as well as 20 other homes in that area.
Check it out on “snopes”. The relationship between the two is not what is being portrayed by some on the right. With that said, if you think that is going to work, you might want to check the results from the last election.
Obama is beatable. There is no way to say he is not. However, Bill Ayers, birthers, Muslim, Rev Wright, etc is not going to win the day. Not sure if you are banking on that, but it only helped solidify a whipping last time.
Going to be a close election, but rest assured Romney will not have his camp engaged in the things I mentioned and will distance himself quickly from organizations who do attempt to bring it up. Count on that.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 17th, 2012
11:03 pm
Jm:
I hear you but the sad thing is where are the “Berstein’s and Woodward’s” out there.
The mainstream media is really missing a coup here. No one will step up to the plate.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
11:04 pm
Tbs
Birther thing is nonsense
But the liberal obsession with birther ism is almost (ALMOST) as silly
gm
July 17th, 2012
11:05 pm
Please Obama lets run on your record: talk about the millions of jobs you saved in the auto indust from suppliers to plant workers.
How about you have created more jobs in 3 years then GW did in 8, oh I forgot Fox liers never report that to the idiots that watch them.
Atlanta 1
July 17th, 2012
11:06 pm
Romney should release his tax returns.
And our President should release all documents from the ‘Fast and Furious’ case.
That way we will all understand that they had NOTHING to hide.
Or would we?
Jm
July 17th, 2012
11:06 pm
Scout 11:03
The media won’t help
It’s incumbent on the citizens to inform themselves and make the choice
For better or worse
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 17th, 2012
11:06 pm
More Arab Spring:
“In the new Egypt, Muslim men’s demands to wear beards — vilified under Hosni Mubarak — reflect the country’s struggle to redefine its relationship with Islam after the revolution.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/in-the-new-egypt-beards-appear-where-they-were-once-banned/2012/07/17/gJQAWaEurW_story.html?hpid=z1
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
11:06 pm
Jm
Well it can still be read about on several right wing websites and it was for the most part right leaning folks suing all over about this issue.
Sheriff in AZ still hunting…………….
Let’s not downplay it like it totally went away. It is still under the surface. Will not impact the election, but still there and should be called out when it surfaces.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
11:11 pm
I’m asking a question. Not being sarcastic. I truly do not know.
Is Santorum regulated to just being a mouth piece or does he have real clout in terms of swaying Romney and making sure he stays right on social issues?
I ask because, he seemed to be adamant about what credentials the VP was going to have.
I tend to think he is just trying to make himself seem more prominent than he is, however I do not know.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
11:12 pm
Tbs
The instigators definitely deserve more of the ridicule
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
11:13 pm
Well it can still be read about on several right wing websites and it was for the most part right leaning folks suing all over about this issue.
Sheriff in AZ still hunting…………….
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/arpaio-obama-probe-finds-national-security-threat/
http://times247.com/articles/arpaio-calls-congress-to-move-on-obama-eligibility
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
11:13 pm
Jm
Before I go to bed. What do you think about my 11:11 question?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
11:14 pm
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/19042196/arpaio-zullo-to-give
http://news.yahoo.com/arpaio-obama-birth-record-definitely-fraudulent-010211250.html?_esi=1
Jm
July 17th, 2012
11:15 pm
Tbs
Santorum has been deregulated because no one cares about him
He has no cred
So he has been RELEGATED to obscurity
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
11:16 pm
Kam
WND never disappoints. Breitbart is a close second, but WND is a sure bet.
Daily Kos and Moveone can ratchet up the bs as well, but WND is in a league of its own.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
11:17 pm
Jm
thanks for the exchange
And I’m gone
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
11:18 pm
They BOTH suck
Lead stories at Drudge.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
11:21 pm
kam
Crazy. Like I said there are not as many as last time, but it is under the surface. Romney will distance himself, but it will be on the fringes from now until the election.
peace
Jm
July 17th, 2012
11:26 pm
So far
Lib ads better than con ads
I think at some point (later) Romney has to offer his own vision
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 17th, 2012
11:26 pm
Headline: “Hummingbirds declare for Romney !”
Jm
July 17th, 2012
11:29 pm
Hummingbirds are smart buggers
Ok I’m out
G Mare
July 17th, 2012
11:36 pm
I truly abhorred Pres. Bush & probably called him more than a few names. My favorite, however, is one he called himself: the decider. Perhaps while standing under the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner?
Jake
July 18th, 2012
12:07 am
ragnar danneskjold,
Don’t believe Senator McCain’s skills include vetting things very well, and that is pretty well known by now (cheap shot, I know). I think McCain actually said he didn’t think he saw anything that would preclude Romney from being President. What do you really think that means? It is obviously a game of words. What would be on a tax return that would preclude anyone from President of the United States (not Bain Capital)? Really, as far as the Constitution is concerned I am sure Romney’s old enough to be president, and we are all going to trust he was actually born in America. But, here is the thing, most Americans are inherently patriotic, and even if they could save a buck, they wouldn’t put their money in a foreign bank, for ANY reason. Not everyone jumps hoops to avoid taxes at ALL cost. Most of us could find some shady tax shelter to invest in, but our morals or patriotic duty don’t let us do this. I don’t know how anyone could want to be President, and do all he could to not pay taxes, given how much God has given him. I really don’t He loves his church, but not his/our country?
voter
July 18th, 2012
1:13 am
How about if Holder and Obama release the Fast and Furious documents?
Oscar
July 18th, 2012
1:20 am
G Mare
July 17th, 2012
11:36 pm
______
The decider. More like “The Disaster.”
ld
July 18th, 2012
2:14 am
OK, so, Romeny’s not legally obligated to release his tax returns. The electorate is also not obligated to vote him president.
BUT Romney really really really really really wants to be president, and unless and until he does release his returns, it’s likely most of us really really really really really will not want him to be president.
Oscar
July 18th, 2012
2:23 am
Let’s face it. It’s like this. If Romney doesn’t release his returnes, he doesn’t get elected. If Romney does release his returens, he doesn’t get elected.
So, why release the returns.
(Paraphase of an old Russian proverb about drinking)
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 18th, 2012
6:15 am
Fascinating analysis by the CJR about the whole Mittens / Bain fact-checking situation:
“Readers are often frustrated with the narrow and seemingly pedantic nature of fact-checking by watchdogs like PolitiFact and Factcheck.org, which typically focus on the specifics of a given claim rather than the larger issue or debate in question. But there’s a good reason for the narrow focus of the genre—broader questions about significance and responsibility are simply beyond their purview and cannot be answered within the realm of facts. For example, as BostInno’s Walt Frick noted in a clever “Choose Your Own Adventure”-style Romney/Bain explainer, the significance of the dispute will vary depending on your answers to a series of highly subjective questions
How relevant do you think Romney’s time at Bain Capital is to his presidential candidacy?…
Is someone responsible for the business they own, even if they’re no longer involved in decision-making?…
How worried are you about offshoring of US jobs?
There are no objective answers to these questions. The irony is that many liberals were outraged by PolitiFact’s choice of the Democratic charge that the House GOP budget would “end Medicare” as its so-called 2011 “Lie of the Year.” As Chait wrote at the time, “it’s obviously a question of interpretation, not fact.” The same principle applies to Romney’s responsibility (or lack thereof) for decisions made at Bain during the period when he was technically its owner and CEO but not involved in “day-to-day” management of the firm. Some claims are too important to check.”
http://www.cjr.org/swing_states_project/unanswered_questions_in_the_ro.php?page=all
stands for decibels
July 18th, 2012
6:15 am
mornin’.
I read stories like this…
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/18/us/politics/senate-democrats-propose-letting-all-tax-cuts-expire.html?_r=2&hp
and I am reminded that meek, lil’ old Harry Reid used to be a) a boxer, and b) a guy who had to be forcibly kept from strangling someone who’d tried to bribe him, some years ago.
Give ‘em hell, Harry.
Madmax
July 18th, 2012
6:30 am
So even if he releases, the Dem’s will start to fine comb every inch and bring up such relavent isssues like “Did you see how much money he made! And look at line 1200, form WHOCares where he listed all this FORIEGN income, tsk, tsk, tsk and then HE can’t be one of us (says the president sitting at courtside seats, wonder who paid for those?). Why, because the alternative is to focus on Barack Obama’s record during this recovery which is the worst ever following a major recession. If we focused on how this president has handled his presidency, it might sway enough people to say let’s try someone who has run large organizations successfully. In fact, succcess is not bad, it is good because it actually creates jobs contrary to the presidents version where he thinks all jobs and all success is a result of government action.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 18th, 2012
6:32 am
dB – I think he used to be in charge of the gambling regulatory entity in Vegas
not someone to be trifled with.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 18th, 2012
6:34 am
“(says the president sitting at courtside seats, wonder who paid for those?).”
yeah … nothing so un-American as basketball …
“form WHOCares where he listed all this FORIEGN income”
report incorrectly and you’re liable for a $50K fine and jail time … or is that only for the “little people”???
Jay
July 18th, 2012
6:36 am
Yeah, the mob tried to car bomb him back then.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 18th, 2012
6:41 am
Jay – I knew you’d know! I remembered you said that he was featured in the Scorsese movie Casino – (not him, personally, but that he was in the story)
Jay
July 18th, 2012
6:42 am
The De Niro character in the movie is one of those suspected in planting the bomb.
Mr_B
July 18th, 2012
6:43 am
Hey, Jay. You’re up before the chickens this AM.
Jay
July 18th, 2012
6:43 am
It happened while I was working at the Vegas newspaper. My wife covered the mob as her beat at one point.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 18th, 2012
6:44 am
I had no idea Mrs. B was a reporter, as well!! No wonder your daughter wound up a writer!! (hope she’s doing well, btw)
Mr_B
July 18th, 2012
6:47 am
Re Harry Reid: ANYBODY will to assume any position relating to the Democratic party and having the word “leadership” in the title has got to have an inordinate amount chutzpah.
Jay
July 18th, 2012
6:47 am
Always am, Mr. B.
I’m like that guy in the old commercial: “Gotta make the donuts.”
Speaking of which, fresh donuts upstairs.
Mr_B
July 18th, 2012
6:49 am
Sorry: should be “willing to assume.” I washed my participles last night and now I can’t do a thing with ‘em.
SheeshLouise
July 18th, 2012
6:53 am
I HIGHLY recommend any of you out here who have not seen “The End Of America” documentary, please watch it! It paints a pretty clear picture of the parallels of what has transpired over the almost past 12 years in DUMBING down of the U.S. citizenry (displayed by much of what we see on these blogs daily) and the OLIGARCHY, and what took place in Nazi Germany, starting in the late 20s.
Many of these moonbats are SOOOOO braindead it’s ridiculous!
Joel Edge
July 18th, 2012
7:44 am
“You do have to wonder why he hasn’t.”
Not really. You folks are going to have a hard time talking openness while not applying the same rules to the current administration.
gm
July 18th, 2012
8:24 am
Only a bunch of idiots on the right can sit there and listen to their boss who has shut down there plants sent there jobs overseas then come back years later and tell them he wants to be there boss again.”
independent thinker
July 18th, 2012
10:45 am
gm above is on the money about outsourcing..
Good reporting on MSNBC about the heart of the controversy which will probably decide the election-outsourcing and government assistance to corporations that outsource making people like Romney and Bain very rich. Nobody here so far talking about that 1998 filing of Bain to set up plant in China to outsource appliance amnufacture jobs or that plant Bain is closing right now in Freeport Illinois to outsource jobs to China. Nobody here talking about bills before Congress that have died to end outsourcing. I guess it is because Georgia is not a state up for grabs in national politics and jobs actually coming back to Georgia like Caterpillar.
First president to attempt to close tax loopholes for overseas investments by US companies -JFK! Some good reporting on this would be helpful for the illiterates and Obozo haters..
Johnny One
July 18th, 2012
12:05 pm
Not one Romney supporter, in all the comments that I’ve read on any article on this topic, has argued that Romney shouldn’t release his tax returns. Every single pro-Romney comment takes the form of attacks on Obama. Not one actually supports Romney’s decision; they are *only* able to support their candidate in the form of a “No, you!” argument.
Madmax
July 18th, 2012
12:30 pm
Johnny – that’s because all of this is bs to divert attention away from Obamas record. Nobody really cares whether Romney releases them because as soon as he des, the Obama camp will release a new smokescreen to keep people from focusing on the issue: has Obama done the things needed to get this economy back on track and if not, why not (and blaming someone else is not a valid answer).