National Review to Romney: Release the tax returns
You know, when even the editors of the highly conservative National Review are willing to take the GOP presidential nominee to task for not releasing his tax returns, the debate is pretty much over:
“The Romney campaign says he has released as many returns as candidate John Kerry did in 2004, and cites Teresa Heinz Kerry’s refusal to release any of her tax returns. Neither is an apt comparison. John Kerry actually released returns from 1999 through 2003, and also released tax returns during his Senate runs. As for Teresa Heinz, Romney isn’t the wealthy spouse of a candidate, but the candidate himself. In 2008, John McCain released two years of returns, but he had been filling out financial disclosure forms for decades as a senator. Romney protests that he is not legally obliged to release any tax returns. Of course not. He is no longer in the realm of the private sector, though, where he can comply with the letter of the law with the Securities and Exchange Commission and leave it at that. Perceptions matter.
Romney may feel impatience with requirements that the political culture imposes on a presidential candidate that he feels are pointless (and inconvenient). But he’s a politician running for the highest office in the land, and his current posture is probably unsustainable. In all likelihood, he won’t be able to maintain a position that looks secretive and is a departure from campaign conventions.”
In other words, get it all out and get it over with, because this current stance is unsustainable. But of course, the more stubbornly Romney refuses to follow the advice even of his friends and supporters, the more suspicious his behavior becomes. This is something that he should have handled back during the primaries, or at the very least right after clinching the nomination.
You do have to wonder why he hasn’t.
– Jay Bookman
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marko
July 17th, 2012
7:40 pm
The thing that’s really weird about this is Romney’s own father set the precedent for releasing tax returns. I never thought W was half the man his father was. Now I can say pretty much the same about Mitt. When you apply for the biggest job in the country, people have a right to look at you under a microscope.
Mitt’s an arrogant blow hard. Two bets. Mitt caves and releases his tax returns, and Obama doesn’t apologize to him. He didn’t apologize to Bin Laden, don’t expect him to apologize to the Mitster.
Jay
July 17th, 2012
7:41 pm
G Mare, B may have inadvertently inspired a blog post for tomorrow.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
7:42 pm
jm, the most frustrating thing about you is that you are far more intelligent than the rube you portray on this blog.
So far, all the available evidence suggests otherwise.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
7:42 pm
thanks for the tip, Josef.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
7:42 pm
Kammy!!
josef
July 17th, 2012
7:43 pm
BOTH
“Heck it is early in the game. The mud slinging, lies and bs hasn’t even really started on either side”
True dat!
Ralph
July 17th, 2012
7:43 pm
The tax returns could show Romney to be as alien to average Americans as the R’s have portrayed Obama. Instead of being of mixed race and Kenyan paternity, the voluminous and infinitely complex tax returns will show him to have millions in numbered Swiss and Cayman Island accounts, esoteric tax shelters, etc. Instead of innuendos about Muslim ancestry, the tax returns will accentuate his active support for what millions of Americans believe to be a weird cult.
It is ironic that Romney’s main claim to legitimacy as a candidate was health care reform in Massachusetts, but he can’t run on that because it is so much like the federal health care reform that was patterned after it and which partisan politics now requires him to renounce. Because he can’t run on his record as Governor, he has to run on his business experience. But because the business experience involves so much outsourcing jobs, bankrupting companies, destroying jobs, etc., and the personal wealth he gained in that manner is so alien to middle class Americans, he can’t run on that either.
Unfortunately, it has gotten to the point that normal middle class centrist Americans, no matter how capable and brilliant, cannot get through the nominating process to run for President. So we are left with Obama and Romney.
We could do better. We should do better. Somehow we must do better.
Jay
July 17th, 2012
7:43 pm
I didn’t mean to set off jm bashing, my apologies.
Soothsayer
July 17th, 2012
7:45 pm
Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news for all of you Fright-Wing “wishers and hopers.” Things just don’t look good.
Obama in the bag 221
Colorado 9
Iowa 6
Michigan 16
Nevada 6
New Hampshire 4
Ohio 18
Virginia 13
Wisconsin 10
Total: 303
Needed to win: 270
And I didn’t even include Florida 29 which Obama enjoys a slight lead.
Too bad!
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:45 pm
josef
Lies, Lies and more Lies
Coming via the Romney and Obama campaigns near you
Jm
July 17th, 2012
7:46 pm
Jay 7:37
Race to the bottom of the barrel
b
July 17th, 2012
7:47 pm
Jay, you’re not getting away with it. 80% plus in survey after survey of media types indicate that they support liberals. And the number of positive to negative articles about Obama runs about 6 to 1 whereas positive about republicans runs about 1 in 6. (Don’t have the research in front of me–sorry.) More negative articles came out in three weeks about Palin than came out in the entire campaign about Obama (2008 campaign). So don’t sit there and feed me bull about the media doing its job. And how the public was fully informed. You’re right: the info was in those books. (At least the parts that hadn’t been excerpted out in subsequent editions). And you tell me that if a conservative had something comparably explosive in his books that it wouldn’t be front and center news day after day after day!!!! Honestly, Jay, not even you can be that dishonest. For Obama, anything that was remotely controversial was tucked away as securely as possible.
And, I’m not sure, but I think you were accusing me of racism. HOW DARE YOU!!!!! I don’t give a flying fart what color someone is as long has he or she has a vision of this country which works, which honors the constitution which they’re supposedly bound to uphold. Which is not bound and determined to make us a nanny state, which is deadset on making us a nation of dependents. (How horrible. Liberals should be ashamed of themselves for what they’re doing in creating a permanent underclass of society…. It’s horrifying.)
Did you sean Nolte’s Breitbart column today about the Sununu press conference. You should…. as I said earlier: you read something other than the party line once in a while and you might learn something. Small business people who are furious with Obama. Where’s the coverage? One was a black woman (matters to the racists on the left perhaps, but not to me): totally ignored. Because it’s not the narrative that the lefties want to give….. But that’s the media that we’ve had to deal with for decades. Tell us what the paternalistic bastards who thinks we’re too dumb to think for ourselves wants us to hear. I’m not that stupid.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
7:47 pm
Hiya, Midori!
xoxoxoxo
getalife
July 17th, 2012
7:48 pm
Hey Midori
Jm
July 17th, 2012
7:49 pm
“I didn’t mean to set off jm bashing, my apologies.”
Par for the course. Blogs don’t equal sophisticated dialogue outlets.
There are a few here one can have a decent conversation with.
Josef comes to mind….
Bro, on occasion….
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
7:49 pm
They Both suck,
There’s a reply to your 5:27pm, downstairs should you choose to read it. This will be the last time I explain my position to you.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:50 pm
Hello Midori
Hope you had a good day
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
7:50 pm
Race to the bottom of the barrel
A race that you won long ago.
But cheer up, there are some contenders for your throne.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:51 pm
Recon
Thanks. Did you see my 6:28 on this thread
Midori
July 17th, 2012
7:53 pm
Hi getalife
Hi both
one thing I can tell you is b is keeping me fabulously entertained
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
7:53 pm
How horrible. Liberals should be ashamed of themselves …
The passive/aggressive card.
That one hasn’t worked on me since I was 15 years old.
You’re really digging yourself in deep here.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:53 pm
Recon
To be clear. My 6:28 on this thread is my reply to your last post downstairs.
Thanks
Jay
July 17th, 2012
7:54 pm
No, B., I did not in any way imply that you are motivated by racism, so you can save yourself your melodramatic “HOW DARE YOU!” That defense mechanism is not available to you.
And if the fact that one person on that call was a black woman did not matter to you, why did you think it worthy of mentioning?
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
7:58 pm
TBS,
Fair enough but don’t challenge those who disagree with you either because most like me aren’t going to change their belief. Thanks
getalife
July 17th, 2012
7:58 pm
cons are whining about corporate media today.
It is your media screaming show us your papers willard.
The gop agree.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
7:59 pm
For the record,
The birther / college transcripts / foreigner themes are all stupid
But so are the themes about Romney as a corporate shill, Romney as a crook, Romney as an outsourced in chief, Romney as a job killer
Thing is, this race may get stupid ugly, ironically because both candidates are at least in principal decent people duking it out in a winner take all political system
The close race means it is going to be a desperate match with lots of mud slinging
And that mud will splatter onto this blog as well
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
7:59 pm
Recon
You challenge and make assertions all the time. Never asked you or anyone to change their belief system, so you can save that one.
your welcome
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:01 pm
Jm
true enough……………..
Jay is probably on blog suicide alert from now until the election.
Soothsayer
July 17th, 2012
8:01 pm
Now, you know ol’ Sooth’s not going pull the wool over your eyes. (Well, there was that one time.) You can plunk down $666.00 for a “douche” burger! I am not kidding! You have to read this!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:02 pm
…duking it out in a winner take all political system
And in related news: water is still wet.
b
July 17th, 2012
8:02 pm
You did imply it: whitey tapes? Whatever the h*ll that is….
I pointed it out because the left always seems to care what a black woman has to say. As long as she says what she’s expected to say….. Say something different? Ignored…. Happens pretty much every time.
Jay, I usually read your little headline and refuse to give you a click. But today, I got to thinking about how you exemplify the left (I don’t have to read beyond the headlines to know that.) and decided to see if, indeed, you’re willing to give credence to the rest of the NR front page (that’s where my conversation started.) But I’m sorry I did it.. You and your sycophants in here: enjoy your little party. Live in your little world where you think everyone agrees with you…. Where you refuse to acknowledge how out of touch you are (how could you know differently?) Where you refuse to give credence to any idea which isn’t acceptable to the “elite.” You don’t need anyone upsetting your little petty reality.
I won’t make the mistake again. You’re not worth the effort. Your replies to me show this fact sadly and amply.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:03 pm
And as for it “may get stupid ugly”………
Easy bet in Vegas, especially when it comes to the Super Pac.
Rove will be Rove and the moveon types will be the moveon types
josef
July 17th, 2012
8:04 pm
MIDORI
“..one thing I can tell you is b is keeping me fabulously entertained ”
Oh, then, I do suspect you’d like “Confederacy”
“I do admire the terror which Negroes are able to inspire in the hearts of some members of the white proletariat and only wish (This is a rather personal confession.) that I possessed the ability to similarly terrorize. The Negro terrorizes simply by being himself; I however, must browbeat a bit in order to achieve the same end. Perhaps I should have been a Negro. I suspect that I would have been a rather large and terrifying one, continually pressing my ample thigh against the withered thighs of old white ladies in public conveyances a great deal and eliciting more than one shriek of panic. Then, too, if I were a Negro, I would not be pressured by my mother to find a good job, for no good jobs would be available. My mother herself, a worn old Negress, would be too broken by years of underpaid labor as a domestic to go out bowling at night. She and I could live most pleasantly in some moldy shack in the slums in a state of ambitionless peace, realizing contentedly that we were unwanted, that striving was meaningless.”
― John Kennedy Toole, A Confederacy of Dunces
getalife
July 17th, 2012
8:04 pm
jm,
Dish it out but can’t take it.
Three more months to go.
Politics is for adults not children.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:05 pm
fainting couch needed on aisle 5!!!
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:06 pm
Kam, it’s not always winner take all
But last time democrats won congress and the WH
If Romney wins, it will likely be true repubs won congress too
Which raises the stakes v divided WH and congress
TBS – blog suicide? Like jay signing off his own blog? Doubtful
Then again, Charlie sheen dropped off twitter
josef
July 17th, 2012
8:07 pm
BOTH
No paper dolls for you!
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:07 pm
Getalife 8:04 bring it
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:07 pm
Jm
Nice spin, but in regards to those who will press it too far and Jay has to send them packing
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:08 pm
josef
too funny
hahahahahah
Jack
July 17th, 2012
8:09 pm
Bookman’s paycheck requires a steady stream of Romney bashing. And where’re his drones gonna go when he’s away for two weeks?
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:09 pm
Tbs – not spin, just not clear on what you were saying.
If u mean jay has a pack full of red cards ready, I suspect you’re right
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:10 pm
Kam, it’s not always winner take all
By it’s very nature, a political election is winner-take-all.
There is no prize for second place.
What a naif!
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:10 pm
Jack
I don’t think jay has to be paid to say what he says, he’d do it for free probably is my guess
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:11 pm
Jm
exactly………………… probably in hand
I can think of a few on each side of the fence who may not make it……..
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:11 pm
Got a question for you, Josef
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/532639_498798326800592_1129961424_n.jpg
getalife
July 17th, 2012
8:12 pm
jm,
Consider it brought.
This one is over.
willard has his own party turning against him.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 17th, 2012
8:12 pm
Well, if the people that wanted to see Obama’s birth certificate are called Birthers, I’m going to call all the people that want to see Romney’s tax returns the Returners.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:12 pm
Kam 8:10 dodge
Yes, individual races are winner take all
The entire election isn’t necessarily
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:13 pm
Heck I might be one but it wont be over the election
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:15 pm
Getalife
The RW media is trying to prove its balance
I don’t really care what they have to say
Only Romney and his advisors know how bad the fallout might be from his tax returns
marko
July 17th, 2012
8:15 pm
At times I’ve had buyers remorse about my vote for Obama. After all we choose him when we could have had Hillary. I can’t imagine the righties ever feeling similar remorse thinking that they could have elected Rick Perry or Michelle Bachman. What’s really funny about this is that Mitt was really the best they had to offer. It’s almost like the GOP spent twelve hours slaving over Thanksgiving dinner. They lift the lid from the silver platter, and we get frozen fish sticks and canned peas.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:16 pm
And where’re his drones gonna go when he’s away for two weeks?
The same place we’ve been for the past three years when he went fishin’.
Geez….
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:18 pm
My guess is he hasn’t paid much in taxes for many of the years
With 1/2 his money in an IRA, no taxes there
With the other half in equity (where taxes can be deferred) or other tax preferred accounts and trusts, he probably hasn’t paid very much in tax period
Butno one knows for sure except Romney plus inner circle
Hootinanny Yum Yum
July 17th, 2012
8:18 pm
More concerned about what congress and the current administration is doing with my money than what Romney is doing with his…
barking frog
July 17th, 2012
8:18 pm
Enter your comments here
josef
July 17th, 2012
8:19 pm
midori
@ 8:11
Printed and hanging above my desk! Thanks!
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:20 pm
Tbs
Dude, you’re too mild mannered to be booted
Even with your whole “come down to Inman park – no gloves” thing
Soothsayer
July 17th, 2012
8:21 pm
If the International Monetary Fund is right, in a mere four years the U.S. will no longer be the world’s largest economy. By 2016, the People’s Republic of China’s total economic output will eclipse that of the U.S. Should this prediction prove true, Americans will see their nation knocked off a pedestal it has occupied for so long that holding any other place has become simply unimaginable.
Amazing how they became rich and we became poor, isn’t it? What could possibly explain such a thing? It’s way beyond a simple man like me.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:23 pm
More concerned about what congress and the current administration is doing with my money than what Romney is doing with his…
Yawn.
At least the 24th time that’s been posted here.
Obama is over
July 17th, 2012
8:24 pm
Romney should probably go ahead and release the tax returns. It will result in Obama yelling about sheltering income overseas and other tax driven strategies. None of this political rhetoric will help solve the problems facing the country today. The sad truth is that if Obama is re-elected, the only business thay will grow faster than tax shelter strategies from acountants and lawyers will be health care fraud. Have fun on vaca.
tireofit
July 17th, 2012
8:25 pm
Get the backup candidate warming up, this one may be toast soon.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:26 pm
The candidates will debate policy and the issues when there are 4 weeks left
Until then it is all BS and mud slinging / tit for tat / sandbox level debate
getalife
July 17th, 2012
8:26 pm
ron paul has more spine.
bill
July 17th, 2012
8:30 pm
So when is Obama going to releae his college records?
How about documents on how he sent guns to drug lords in Mexico how have murdered hundreds of people including Americans?
How pathetic the left is harping on nonsense like this when real crime by the Obama administration just continues on a daily basics.
How many billions of tax dollars in stimulus has Obamam sent to other countries?
How many billions of our tax dollars has he diverted to his union thug buddies?
how many billions of tax dollars have been wasted on his “shovel ready job nonsense”?
No it is much more important that liberal rags like the AJC harp on what Mitt did with HIS OWN MONEY! NOT TAX DOLLARS BUT HIS OWN MONEY.
Funny how nobody points out how Obama used every trick in the book to avoid taxes on his money.
He and mooochelle even gave the max amount of cash to their daughtes “as a gift” to avoid taxes on that.
Libs are so two faced. Clinton used to deduct $4 for every pair of old underwear he gave away.
Wake up people and see what a con job the left are.
josef
July 17th, 2012
8:31 pm
BOTH
Come down to Inman Park with the gloves….
I saw him at Whole Foods paying for these with his Food Stamp Card…
http://p.lefux.com/61/20100719/A2244000CM/wedding-lace-gloves-wrist-length-flower-1-big.jpg
John P. Picklenose
July 17th, 2012
8:32 pm
Yeah, you got that right.
left got punked.
again.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:32 pm
bill, bill, bill
I have some extra twine in case you need to restring your pearls.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:32 pm
pogo
July 17th, 2012
5:27 pm
[...]
…even if Obama is re-elected in November…
Obama is over
July 17th, 2012
8:24 pm
[...] The sad truth is that if Obama is re-elected…
A few months ago, it was we could nominate Elmer Fudd and he would beat Obama.
What gives?
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
8:33 pm
bill,
you left out all the really juicy stuff about Jimmy Carter in that rant of yours.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:34 pm
Hi Tax
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:34 pm
Jm
That still stands. But I digress and will save the amping up for more appropriate times.
marko
July 17th, 2012
8:35 pm
Soothsayer , we’re only 5% of the worlds population.The bulk of our wealth is held by a tiny percentage of that small group. The Chinese are 25% of the global population. In short our position as the world’s number one economy isn’t anymore sustainable than our current lifestyles. Six billion souls share this little blue marble. What if they all drove SUV’s?
josef
July 17th, 2012
8:35 pm
MIDORI
Let’s see now, Bill don’t like Michelle and knows what Clinton’s used underwear sell for…is there a connection there?
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:35 pm
josef
It is the Section 8 housing that I live in that is the kicker………
Food stamps is the small stuff
bman
July 17th, 2012
8:35 pm
I’m guessing Romney will release his returns sooner or later. Probably sooner. Whatever the reruns show, it’s just going to be a little extra ammo for Obama.
Race, $, Bush. That’s all you will hear Obama talk about until the election. The economy may slow even more, but Obama will use those 3 on his never-ending blame game.
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
8:36 pm
“You challenge and make assertions all the time. Never asked you or anyone to change their belief system, so you can save that one.”
Oh yes you have. You say that you understand the Christian perspective based on your early years of upbringing yet you seem to be saying you’ve rejected the beliefs that you were once taught and reject those who’ve found true faith from whatever way. Far different from me as I wasn’t brought up that way but found Christ late in life and I’m still learning. If you’ve rejected the faith you were exposed to in your early years, I’m not far enough in my walk to help you but never the less I wish you well , however, please don’t condemn those of us that believe differently than you.
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
8:36 pm
Hi Midori. How r u
weetamoe
July 17th, 2012
8:36 pm
July 18, 1969: Mary Jo Kopechne died in the back seat of a car driven and then abandoned by ultra wealthy Teddy Kennedy, tossed out of college for cheating, never worked a day in his life, long term holder of senate seat bought with daddy’s dollars, exceedingly generous with other people’s money, hero of the democrat party.
St Simons
July 17th, 2012
8:36 pm
You do have to wonder why he hasn’t.
No, not really. The gold nugget is 1999-2002. He’s gonna try an
intermediate step of ‘hey, here’s 10 years’ stopping at 2002.
But nooooo, that’s not the dealio. There’s something fugly between
99-02, my years of ’sperience say.
And what’s more interesting I believe than tax returns, is his
divesture of Bain, a $4 bil company after which he claimed
his net worth was $200 mil, while simultaneously claiming
he’s a ‘good bidnessman.’
That’s like the Premier division of Clearchannel claiming $200mil
in revenues, while paying one personality (fat pigboy Rush) $400mil,
all the while screeching ‘let the freeeee market decide’
at least they’re consistent with their goofiness. They don’t even
care about the truth anymore, they’re just flingin poo at this point.
and no matter how stupid the gen public is, they aint THAT stupid.
Four more years.Guaranteed.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:37 pm
LOL, Josef — thanks for translating that for me
doing good Tax. This blog is a barrel of laughs tonight
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:39 pm
LOL – Now we are “retroactively” watching the news from 1969
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:40 pm
…hero of the democrat party.
Presidential contender, never nominated.
Hero?
No, not so much.
Midori
July 17th, 2012
8:40 pm
weetamoe — how much further do we need to travel back into the future to view Mitten’s retirement from Bain?
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
8:40 pm
Just remember, Bill, no matter what kinda problems you have, they can all be washed down with an ice cold Billy Beer. And don’t forget to save the leftovers.
getalife
July 17th, 2012
8:41 pm
lil bill,
We are awake and the con job from you cons failed.
Jm
July 17th, 2012
8:41 pm
Kam 8:23
It is kinda old
But that’s where we are
Sound bite land
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:42 pm
But that’s where we are
Sound bite land
And in related news: water is still wet.
Recon 0311 2533
July 17th, 2012
8:42 pm
“Four more years.Guaranteed.”
By no means at all guaranteed.
David Granger
July 17th, 2012
8:43 pm
I do agree with you, Jay, and with the others who have called upon Romney to release all his tax returns. I believe he should, and the longer he refuses to do so the more it hurts him.
I disagree with the “National Review”, however, and do believe that the refusal of Teresa Heinz Kerry to release her tax returns is a valid comparison. During his Presidential campaign, John Kerry was critical of companies that outsourced jobs and that kept large amounts of cash overseas in order to avoid taxes and of large corporations who paid absolutely no taxes, and I think that the voters had a right to know whether his own wife owned stock in companies that did the very things he was complaining about.
And I also feel that, like both John Kerry and George Bush, President Obama should release his college transcripts and materials. I am not a birther, and DO believe that the President is a citizen. His mother was a citizen and he was born in Hawaii, and that settles it. But I do believe that we voters have the right to know whether or not he ever claimed foreign citizenship in order to qualify for financial aid programs or for special acceptance programs that were only available to foreign nationals. And I also believe that we have the right to read some of his college papers and writings on important legal topics. President Obama was the first African-American editor of the Harvard Law Review, and no one earns that post without having a collection of writings on various legal points to present in support of their application. And I believe that we have the right to read some of his ideas and analysis of key legal issues. We have been able to do that with other candidates in the past, and I think the voters deserve to read those legal briefs.
Like Romney’s refusal to release his tax returns…the more the refusal, the more suspicious it becomes. And as you point out, you do have to wonder why he hasn’t.
St Simons
July 17th, 2012
8:43 pm
Ron Paul is waiting in the wings. Remember – He’s transformational!
Newt is wading in the wings – no really, they’re 2 for $1 til 7pm
getalife
July 17th, 2012
8:44 pm
Just like 08.
The gop are running the same campaign but no hail mary pass like palin yet.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:45 pm
Recon
Ok man. If you can show were I have broad brushed all Christians, show it. You are one of the Kings of making derogatory comments, assertions and claims to what seems like all of the left, Democrats, etc on a regular basis.
You see it your way and I see it mine. With that said, we are all welcome to challenge and exchange on this board.
If you do not like being challenged when you make unsubstantiated assertions and claims, best I can say is not to make them. However, that is your choice, but I live on a two way street.
“I’m not far enough in my walk to help you ” Wasn’t a sad departure more than it was a progression. Kind of the like the opposite of your progression. So no assistance needed, but thanks for the offer……….. I guess.
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
8:45 pm
“I’m not a birther.” – Orly Taitz
Jay
July 17th, 2012
8:46 pm
By no means at all guaranteed.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 17th, 2012
8:46 pm
I am not a birther, and DO believe that the President is a citizen. His mother was a citizen and he was born in Hawaii, and that settles it. But…
That “but” makes you a birther.
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
8:47 pm
The GOP saved a step this time around and picked Mitt as their hail Mary.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:47 pm
Jay
Not guaranteed by a long shot. I think Obama will win but it will be much closer than people think, either way.
They BOTH suck
July 17th, 2012
8:49 pm
“Oh yes you have”
Going to call lie in regards to TBS ever asking anyone of this blog to change their belief system. Challenge, debate, argue, get feisty……………. GUILTY.
Change……….. NEVER
TaxPayer
July 17th, 2012
8:50 pm
I remember Birther. Birther But. She was one of the But sisters.