National Review to Romney: Release the tax returns

You know, when even the editors of the highly conservative National Review are willing to take the GOP presidential nominee to task for not releasing his tax returns, the debate is pretty much over:

“The Romney campaign says he has released as many returns as candidate John Kerry did in 2004, and cites Teresa Heinz Kerry’s refusal to release any of her tax returns. Neither is an apt comparison. John Kerry actually released returns from 1999 through 2003, and also released tax returns during his Senate runs. As for Teresa Heinz, Romney isn’t the wealthy spouse of a candidate, but the candidate himself. In 2008, John McCain released two years of returns, but he had been filling out financial disclosure forms for decades as a senator. Romney protests that he is not legally obliged to release any tax returns. Of course not. He is no longer in the realm of the private sector, though, where he can comply with the letter of the law with the Securities and Exchange Commission and leave it at that. Perceptions matter.

Romney may feel impatience with requirements that the political culture imposes on a presidential candidate that he feels are pointless (and inconvenient). But he’s a politician running for the highest office in the land, and his current posture is probably unsustainable. In all likelihood, he won’t be able to maintain a position that looks secretive and is a departure from campaign conventions.”

In other words, get it all out and get it over with, because this current stance is unsustainable. But of course, the more stubbornly Romney refuses to follow the advice even of his friends and supporters, the more suspicious his behavior becomes. This is something that he should have handled back during the primaries, or at the very least right after clinching the nomination.

You do have to wonder why he hasn’t.

– Jay Bookman

478 comments Add your comment

josef

July 17th, 2012
5:31 pm

IMAM

WORKS EVERY TIME!!!!

But thanks…downstairs was getting plumb nasty…

Lucifer

July 17th, 2012
5:32 pm

Either he releases his returns or loses the election. This issue is NOT going away!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

July 17th, 2012
5:35 pm

The cons are throwing Romney under the bus so they can pick someone else.

getalife

July 17th, 2012
5:36 pm

Lets guess what willard is hiding.

Launder for the drug cartels is my guess.

josef

July 17th, 2012
5:37 pm

“Of course not. He is no longer in the realm of the private sector, though, where he can comply with the letter of the law with the Securities and Exchange Commission and leave it at that. Perceptions matter.”

My point on the whole megillah. Does this mean I’m a conservative?

Chas Holman

July 17th, 2012
5:37 pm

Governor Romney’s new campaign song..

I Fell Into A Burning Ring Of Fire
I Went Down, Down, Down
And The Flames Went Higher

And It Burns, Burns, Burns
The Ring Of Fire
The Ring Of Fire

Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common

July 17th, 2012
5:38 pm

josef @4:41 pm

Showing my age here,

from downstairs catching up here :-)

———————————————————————–

Yes we are sir LOL

manster

July 17th, 2012
5:39 pm

release your birth certificate and i will release my tax………..uhh nevermind!!!

JohnnyReb

July 17th, 2012
5:40 pm

Obviously, Romney needs to take ques from Obama on how to hide things.

Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common

July 17th, 2012
5:40 pm

Only little people pay taxes :-)

- the king of greed

PJ

July 17th, 2012
5:41 pm

getalife @5:36 pm

You might have a point there after all the Caymans is when they keep their money too.

larry

July 17th, 2012
5:42 pm

Romney: Hey, ill tell you what. Ill release my birth certificate instead. That should shut everyone up.

JohnnyReb

July 17th, 2012
5:42 pm

“Does this mean I’m a conservative?”

Of course you are, although sometimes sheep stray from the fold. As long as you vote for Romney any trangressions will be forgiven.

OriginalTP

July 17th, 2012
5:44 pm

If John Kerry’s wife didn’t release her tax returns why should Ann Romney’s husband have to? This is yet another Liberal Double Standard!!!!

josef

July 17th, 2012
5:44 pm

COMMON SENSE
:-)

K’Chak

“The cons are throwing Romney under the bus so they can pick someone else.”

That thought had crossed my mind, too…I’m not sure how much of a chance they’ve got, though…it promises to be, uh, spirited, at the convention…sorta like the old Democrats, eh?

I’ll start paying closer attention when he names his VP pick…

ByteMe - Political thug

July 17th, 2012
5:45 pm

Real Americans don’t hide their money overseas.

ByteMe - Political thug

July 17th, 2012
5:45 pm

Release Ann Romney’s tax returns!

:lol:

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

July 17th, 2012
5:46 pm

If John Kerry’s wife didn’t release her tax returns why should Ann Romney’s husband have to?

She did.

Teh stoopid, it burns!

Doggone/GA

July 17th, 2012
5:46 pm

“If John Kerry’s wife didn’t release her tax returns”

Actually…she did

Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common

July 17th, 2012
5:46 pm

interesting on msnbc sunday about Romney’s potential VP picks. The majority were Catholic’s. Makes me wonder how balanced the MITTSTER really is.

:-)

Union

July 17th, 2012
5:47 pm

squirrel.. squirrel.. squirrel

“Study says Obama tax proposals could cost 700,000 jobs”

squirrel.. squirrel.. squirrel

josef

July 17th, 2012
5:47 pm

Johnny Reb…

Oh, no, I’m not! You’re just a closet liberal! And me vote for a Republican? I’m a lot of things, but not a heretic! My Granny’s grey ghost would rise from the tomb and smite me if I ever voted for the Party of Diocletian of the Potomac… :-)

ByteMe - Political thug

July 17th, 2012
5:47 pm

Study says Obama tax proposals could cost 700,000 jobs

More stupid. Need some ointment to make it go away.

carlosgvv

July 17th, 2012
5:49 pm

“you have to wonder why he hasn’t”

I would suggest that Romney’s refusal is a natural by-product of his upbringing and business career. Romney was born into a rich family, went to expensive schools and always had to best of everything.

In his business career, he was at the top and had, at his beck and call, the best lawyers and accountants to give him every tax break and dodge possible. Romney’s rich friends, naturally, has access to these same kinds of lawyers and accountants and used every tax shelter and dodge that was legal(and perhaps many that wern’t).

So, Romney’s mind set is that of a very wealthy man who doesn’t have to play by the same tax rules we more or less middle class do. This is so much a part of him that, amazingly, he seems to think, even as a Presidential candidate, that we should give him a free pass on this because he’s of the wealthy, upper crust class.

PJ

July 17th, 2012
5:50 pm

Romney /Cheney 2012

A tax cheat and a war criminal should go hand in hand.

Jay

July 17th, 2012
5:50 pm

“Of course not. He is no longer in the realm of the private sector, though, where he can comply with the letter of the law with the Securities and Exchange Commission and leave it at that. Perceptions matter.”

That’s also the point of the whole Bain thing. What Romney and Bain did was not by any means illegal, and you can make a strong argument that firing people is dirty work but in a capitalist economy striving for efficiency, somebody has to do it.

The question is whether voters will accept that “somebody” as their president, where a different set of rules and expectations apply.

ByteMe - Political thug

July 17th, 2012
5:50 pm

Romney’s already lost HUGE on this issue. He looks weak by demanding an apology, which he’ll never get. He looks secretive. He looks desperate to try to change the subject, so the Rightwingnuts invent a supposed “quote” taken completely out of context and try to change the meaning to fit their crazy narrative. Didn’t work.

My wife reads it this way: “He looks sleazy.”

Release the tax returns!

josef

July 17th, 2012
5:50 pm

Common Sense

I wish he’d pick Paul Babeu…that’d throw a monkey wrench in the machinery, now, wouldn’t it…Scout, Del and Company would have a heart attack…but they’d still vote for him…anything to get Obama out…

Union

July 17th, 2012
5:51 pm

carlosgvv
July 17th, 2012
5:49 pm

“So, Romney’s mind set is that of a very wealthy man who doesn’t have to play by the same tax rules we more or less middle class do.”

kind of like obamas sot?

USMC

July 17th, 2012
5:51 pm

“National Review to Romney: Release the tax returns”–JAY BOOKMAN

YES!
Please…. anything to take attention away from Caesar Obama’s record on the ECONOMY and UNEMPLOYMENT! LOL! :-)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

July 17th, 2012
5:52 pm

josef

I think it might not get as far as Romney announcing his VP pick.

If McCain saw four years ago what Romney’s now trying to hide and still chose Palin over Romney as his running mate, that tells me there is something politically damaging there.

It’s beginning to look like McCain may have revealed what he saw there, too.

getalife

July 17th, 2012
5:52 pm

Show us your papers willard.

Now.

JohnnyReb

July 17th, 2012
5:52 pm

Be careful josef, accussing me of being a closet liberal could cost you some credibility here. Besides, today I’m a racist, according to some.

ByteMe - Political thug

July 17th, 2012
5:53 pm

If you’re not clear on the point of all the Bain and tax return attacks, it’s this:

Romney isn’t running on anything at this point other than his business abilities. Not his governorship, not his running the Olympics. Nada. Just his time at Bain. Obama is turning that into a huge liability before Romney gets a chance to “introduce himself” at the convention. Leaving Romney absolutely nothing good to run on. It’s brilliant strategy and it’s working well so far. Romney looks completely ineffective trying to defend himself.

JamVet

July 17th, 2012
5:53 pm

The man is a farce. And unfit to lead.

The neocon’s Michael Dukakis.

His “principles” (LOL!) remind of…

http://tinyurl.com/bmxkjpx

JohnnyReb

July 17th, 2012
5:53 pm

You say Bain….I say GE

ByteMe - Political thug

July 17th, 2012
5:54 pm

You say Bain….I say GE

Really? Jack Welch is running for President??

USMC

July 17th, 2012
5:55 pm

OBAMA: The Private Sector is Doing Fine…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-RjdyQ3oNc

Tax Returns?????

YES! YES!….. Anything to take the attention away from Caesar Obama’s record.

getalife

July 17th, 2012
5:55 pm

I say Haliburton.

lynnie gal

July 17th, 2012
5:55 pm

Robme obviously made the calculation that releasing his tax returns will hurt him more than continuing to refuse to release them. I suspect it’s because there are years where he paid ZERO (-0-) income tax. What’s his next move? Announce the name of his V.P. so he can (attempt to) divert attention from his tax return/outsourcing issues. If he does actually release the returns, it will be late on a Friday afternoon before a holiday.

josef

July 17th, 2012
5:55 pm

JOHNNY REB

And being a liberal means you can’t be a racist, TOO?

K’CHAK

You do have a point there…he’s got a lot of baggage…has McCain spoken to why he didn’t choose him that you know of?

ty webb

July 17th, 2012
5:56 pm

He shouldn’t release anything.

ByteMe - Political thug

July 17th, 2012
5:56 pm

OBAMA: The Private Sector is Doing Fine…

Yep, the private sector doesn’t need government help… unless you’re a socialist who thinks that the government needs to meddle in the market. You’re not one of them, right?

JohnnyReb

July 17th, 2012
5:56 pm

BTW, and excuse me for venting, but the Meebo bar is a kissing cousin to my dislike of Barry. I buy a computer that will handle 64 bit windows and pay almost a hundred a month to Comcast for high speed, and low and behold the AJC makes my blogging slow with Meebo.

josef

July 17th, 2012
5:57 pm

LYNNIE

“If he does actually release the returns, it will be late on a Friday afternoon before a holiday.”

I think that’s a safe bet! :-)

USMC

July 17th, 2012
5:58 pm

Obama: If you’ve got a business — you didn’t built that. Somebody else made that happen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-ZO7XOpwa8

The Bolshevik, Caesar Obama, relishing in his own NARCISSISM! :-)

Obama is a JOKE; in WAY over his head!

tireofit

July 17th, 2012
5:59 pm

Come on, we all know these guys play by different rules. Who are we to question them?

USMC

July 17th, 2012
6:00 pm

“National Review to Romney: Release the tax returns”–JAY BOOKMAN

Why do that…. I say Romney should just wait 3 YEARS to release the other Tax Returns…

JUST like Caesar Obama did with his “Birth Certificate”. LOL!

Jay

July 17th, 2012
6:00 pm

Just an FYI to the blog regulars, as of Friday I’ll be off for two weeks of fishing, rafting, hiking etc.

The week cannot end soon enough.

USMC

July 17th, 2012
6:02 pm

“National Review to Romney: Release the tax returns”—JAY BOOKMAN

Does that make both National Review/Bill Kristol and JAY BOOKMAN……

…… “TAXERS”??? :-)

Jay

July 17th, 2012
6:02 pm

“Why do that…. I say Romney should just wait 3 YEARS to release the other Tax Returns…

Or, he could wait three years and declare that he was releasing them retroactively to July 16, 2012.

JamVet

July 17th, 2012
6:02 pm

2012 US Presidential Election – Winning Party

Democratic Party -160
Republican Party +130

http://sports.bovada.lv/sports-betting/political-props.jsp

Pony up your pennies Romney fans!

Easy money…

USMC

July 17th, 2012
6:05 pm

“Just an FYI to the blog regulars, as of Friday I’ll be off for two weeks of fishing, rafting, hiking etc.
The week cannot end soon enough.”–JAY

No Comrade Bookman, the Party needs you. Your vacation has been denied. You are to report back to the Propaganda Room! LOL!

Sounds like a great vacation, Jay. You deserve it! :-)

PJ

July 17th, 2012
6:05 pm

.I love in the commercial where he demands an apology from the President and it’s saying “There’s no evidence of wrong doing”. That’s precisely what the mouth piece says when his client is guilty. Somebody call Ben Matlock.

OriginalTP

July 17th, 2012
6:06 pm

USMC – Ha Ha Ha – that almost makes it sound like the president doesn’t respect hard work. Pretty funny quote there.

josef

July 17th, 2012
6:06 pm

A hundred years from now, the reference works will begin with “Barak Hussein Obama was the first (whatever we’ll be calling the melanin enhanced then) to be elected President of the United States of America.” If Romney is elected his will read “Willard Mitt Romney was the first Mormon to be elected President of the United States of America…” It’s a historic election and an exercise in trivial pursuit no matter how you slice it… :-)

USMC

July 17th, 2012
6:07 pm

“Just an FYI to the blog regulars, as of Friday I’ll be off for two weeks of fishing, rafting, hiking etc.
The week cannot end soon enough.”–JAY

What the heck are the “Welfare” Bloggers going to do with their time for two weeks???
(You know who you are!) :-)

Jay

July 17th, 2012
6:08 pm

USMC:

In the immortal words of Rick Blaine, “Where I’m going, you can’t follow. What I’ve got to do, you can’t be any part of.”

:>)

USMC

July 17th, 2012
6:08 pm

“USMC – Ha Ha Ha – that almost makes it sound like the president doesn’t respect hard work. Pretty funny quote there.”

The President let us in on how he really feels about himself….

Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common

July 17th, 2012
6:09 pm

josef@5:50 pm

Talk about assplodin heads

:-)

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 17th, 2012
6:10 pm

Obama is a shill for corporations and insurance companies

Let’s guess what he’s hiding behind all his closed door meetings even though he promised transparency

PJ

July 17th, 2012
6:11 pm

“Why do that…. I say Romney should just wait 3 YEARS to release the other Tax Returns…”

I agree, he won’t be president anyway.

TaxPayer

July 17th, 2012
6:11 pm

Release your long forms, Mitt. The truth shall set you free.

josef

July 17th, 2012
6:12 pm

“Just an FYI to the blog regulars, as of Friday I’ll be off for two weeks of fishing, rafting, hiking etc.
The week cannot end soon enough.”

Oh, dear…any takers on how long before the blog gets shut down? Whose the poor shmo down to the AJC who drew the lot of having to moderate this motley crew? Bless his (her) heart… :-)

Anyway, have fun and get some R&R time in before heading into the homestretch for the election…

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 17th, 2012
6:12 pm

Obama is going to make us buy insurance

Obama is a corporatist

barking frog

July 17th, 2012
6:13 pm

McCain picking Palin was
not a show of Romney’s criminality but of McCain’s
stupidity.

USMC

July 17th, 2012
6:13 pm

“In the immortal words of Rick Blaine, “Where I’m going, you can’t follow. What I’ve got to do, you can’t be any part of.””–JAY

Well if you say so Jay. I wouldn’t do that to you anyway. I want you to have a peaceful and enjoyable vacation after all of the stuff you put up with (from me) here on your blog. :-)
I really owe you a swee+water 420 someday! And I promise to be well mannered.
(Maybe I will run into you at the Yacht Club, Elmyr, or BrewHaus sometime.)

JamVet

July 17th, 2012
6:13 pm

The day that Mitt Romney becomes President of the United States of America is the day that I will become president of the local Jews for Jesus chapter!

Which is to say…………………………………. never!

Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common

July 17th, 2012
6:13 pm

Jay

Are you going to put Kyle’s rules into effect or are you going to trust us?

:-)

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 17th, 2012
6:14 pm

Obama is going to make more profits for power companies

Obama = corporatist

USMC

July 17th, 2012
6:16 pm

“Release your long forms, Mitt. The truth shall set you free.”

Someone sounds a little(a lot) jealous/envious of Mitten’s wealth. :-)
(back to the trough, YOU!)

josef

July 17th, 2012
6:16 pm

ZamVet

Never say never…stranger things have happened…and given what’s already come down the pike this season, nothing would surprise me…

barking frog

July 17th, 2012
6:17 pm

Jm
Obama is Kenyanesian.

ByteMe - Political thug

July 17th, 2012
6:17 pm

McCain: I chose Palin instead of Romney “because we thought that Sarah Palin was the better candidate.”

Hahahahahahahahaha

Zebra

July 17th, 2012
6:17 pm

Romney is too stupid to be president if he doesn’t have anything to hide. This has gone way too long already and it is not going away.

ByteMe - Political thug

July 17th, 2012
6:18 pm

Obama is Kenyanesian

Excellent.

USMC

July 17th, 2012
6:18 pm

“The day that Mitt Romney becomes President of the United States of America is the day that I will become president of the local Jews for Jesus chapter!”–AMVET

Jay, would you kindly file this away for after election day in November??? :-)
(I hope Amvet knows how to wear his Yarmulke!)

ByteMe - Political thug

July 17th, 2012
6:19 pm

Obama: “We released our tax returns. That’s how Kenyan’s do it. Can we trust a Mexican to do the same?”

Jay

July 17th, 2012
6:19 pm

I’ll leave the blog open, and will try to program two Fridays of music beforehand. How long it stays open will depend on whether they get complaints about behavior here, so … self-police!

USMC

July 17th, 2012
6:21 pm

“Romney is too stupid to be president if he doesn’t have anything to hide. This has gone way too long already and it is not going away.”

Mitt…. Stupid???
Obama was a D+ student; only getting by through AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, and you can clearly see from his (lack of) policies that he is not very intelligent.

barking frog

July 17th, 2012
6:21 pm

Self police. That’s funnier
than self deport.

Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common

July 17th, 2012
6:22 pm

Jay

I understand that an ipad and fishing/rafting can lead to all kinds of problems :-)

not to mention the alcohol that will be drunk

LOL

ByteMe - Political thug

July 17th, 2012
6:22 pm

and you can clearly see from his (lack of) policies that he is not very intelligent.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Show us YOUR Harvard Cum-Laude law degree. Or are you saying you’re not as intelligent?

F. Sinkwich

July 17th, 2012
6:25 pm

Okay, get the Mittster to release more tax returns.

Then let’s see O’bozo’s credentials as an American — not the old birth certificate thing, I mean in a state of mind kind of thing.

His parents were commies and he was raised as such.

He actively searched out Marxists, socialists, etc., in college for friends.

He’s never done anything to earn a real paycheck.

He says things like “now is not the time for profits.”

He calls our constitution, the greatest human freedom document ever written, as “negative.”

Wifey has never been proud of this country until he won an election.

He spent 20 years listening to “God damn America” in church.

His best buddy bombed government facilities.

O’bozo may be a US citizen, but he’s no American.

ByteMe - Political thug

July 17th, 2012
6:26 pm

His parents were commies and he was raised as such

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Teh stoopid is too funny tonight.

USMC

July 17th, 2012
6:27 pm

Jerry Springer gushes about Obama
http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2012/07/jerry-springer-gushes-about-obama-129228.html

Jerry Springer Show LOVES Obama….. Are we surprised??? LOL! Par for the course.

That’s it! I could not put my finger on it…. The Jay’s daily Socialist blogheads(you know who you are) remind me of Jerry Springer’s show; same intelligence level and unemployed! LOL! :-)
(And they mysteriously disappear in the afternoon during the show)

Erwin's cat

July 17th, 2012
6:27 pm

This is orchestrated….you guys don’t even recognize your own game?

josef

July 17th, 2012
6:28 pm

They BOTH suck

July 17th, 2012
6:28 pm

Recon

reply to your 5:35 downstairs

The issue is not understanding or comprehending. I grew up going to church. I probably have a little more knowledge of the Bible as well as the social conservative / evangelical ideology of Christianity, at least from an overall Southern Baptist viewpoint, than you might think. Not anywhere near a scholar or even well versed, but some knowledge nonetheless.

Agreeing and believing would be where we part……………… “like the red sea”

;-)

Jay

July 17th, 2012
6:28 pm

Common, no cell signals where I’m headed, so an I-pad would just be a hunk of metal to lug around.

I do confess that around Aug. 1 I’ll be slightly curious about how the T-SPLOST went. Maybe you guys can hire a skywriter to let me know?

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

July 17th, 2012
6:28 pm

Just an FYI to the blog regulars, as of Friday I’ll be off for two weeks of fishing, rafting, hiking etc.

O no! Last time Bookman went fishing we wound up with something like 5,000 posts before Paul put a end to them all. Have mercy, Bookman. Leave a couple new write-ups with somebody at the AJC that can put them up for you.

As for this tax return business, I recall a time when I would of been ashamed to let somebody else see my returns. I made so little money in those years I couldn’t even pay for new tires for my cement mixer. This was back when I was hanging sheetrock and doing odd jobs.

I bet that’s the reason why Romney won’t release his returns. He probly went flat-out busted and would of hung his head in shame if anybody saw his returns.

On the other hand. . . naw, a straight-up guy like Romney wouldn’t of pulled any shenigans with his money. I hope he’s not holding the returns back because it would be all over for him if somebody saw the fast ones that he pulled.

Anyhow, I’m looking up old Newt again just in case Romney needs to pull out of the race. Newt’s got some great positions, but he’s awful hard on other peoples women. I don’t know who to be scared of most—Newt or Those People. Both will use your woman like a rented mule.

Have a good night everybody.

USMC

July 17th, 2012
6:29 pm

“Show us YOUR Harvard Cum-Laude law degree. Or are you saying you’re not as intelligent?”

I will show you my college transcripts when Caesar Obama shows HIS. Oh wait! :-)

JamVet

July 17th, 2012
6:31 pm

Enjoy the downtime, Jay.

And the time away from us miscreants!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HtsDHsBvGw

barking frog

July 17th, 2012
6:32 pm

F. Sinkwich
You would be so funny
if you weren’t so serious.

G Mare

July 17th, 2012
6:32 pm

Jay, have great trip! If you are going to Oregon, say hello for me. I may have said here that I grew up in Portland.

USMC

July 17th, 2012
6:32 pm

“I do confess that around Aug. 1 I’ll be slightly curious about how the T-SPLOST went. Maybe you guys can hire a skywriter to let me know?”

Jay, serious question here…. Why has Atlanta NOT synchronized the Traffic lights?
Is it cost or what?? I don’t get it. That seems like a quick way to get rid of SOME of the traffic congestion, etc. I know it’s not the end all answer to transportation, but come on.

They BOTH suck

July 17th, 2012
6:33 pm

Jay

While this issue is surely getting time in the mainstream, liberal and conservative media, it could backfire on the Obama campaign.

Depending what is or isn’t in those returns, it isn’t a guaranteed “got ya” for Obama.

Erwin’s Cat and josef mentioned this yesterday.

Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common

July 17th, 2012
6:34 pm

Jay

I’ll bet the Holiday Inn you will be staying at has wireless :-)

Enjoy the time off and I promise I will be good (up to a certain point that I will apologize for in advance)

:-)

They BOTH suck

July 17th, 2012
6:34 pm

USMC @ 6:32

Great point.

off topic: You ever try the burgers with sausage?

Jay

July 17th, 2012
6:35 pm

G Mare, the Deschutes River.

And USMC, there is no excuse for the lights not being synchronized. Pretty basic stuff.