American history, as told through the two Romneys
The political debate continues to be dominated by questions involving GOP nominee Mitt Romney and his financial history, more particularly his refusal to release any tax information other than his 2010 return and an estimate of his 2011 taxes.
The decision to withhold the information has begun to perplex even conservative pundits such as William Kristol (”It’s crazy”) to George Will (”He must have calculated that there are higher costs in releasing them).” In many cases, unflattering comparisons are being drawn between Romney and his father, George, who as a candidate for the GOP nomination in 1968 began the modern practice of tax disclosure by releasing 12 years of his returns.
While that debate rages, I thought it might be interesting to study what we know of the two Romneys not for what it might tell us about their character, openness, etc., but about the time and place in which each man lived.
Take a look at the thumbnail financial descriptions posted on the right. The younger Romney, as a passive, non-working investor now drawing upon his success at Bain Capital, collected income in 2010 amounting to 439 times the median household income of his fellow Americans.
His father, during a 12-year period in which he mainly worked as chairman and president of American Motors, earned an average annual income that was 44 times that of the median household income of his fellow Americans. Adjusted for inflation, his average income of $247,743 in 1965 dollars would be $1.7 million today.
In the ’50s and ’60s, a period considered the economic heyday of a free and capitalist post-war America, George Romney paid 37 percent of his income in federal taxes.
By 2010, Romney’s son paid a total of 13.9 percent of his income in federal taxes, this in an America that is supposedly well on its way to becoming a socialist state, with a confiscatory federal government intent on stealing the wealth of its highest earners.
Reality, in other words, directly contradicts mythology, but with little apparent effect. The fact that the “socialist” meme not only survives but thrives despite its obvious absurdity is, I would argue, testimony to the perception-altering power of propaganda. Or as the elder Romney might put it, a case of brainwashing.
– Jay Bookman
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They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
8:52 pm
Jm
Look in the mirror
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
8:54 pm
Rags
Would I be voting for the pragmatic Mass governor or the guy who is bouncing a ball on his nose like a seal for the social conservatives? Mind you his choice to do so, but to win he did NOT have that choice.
Mr_B
July 16th, 2012
8:55 pm
Shalom : josef! Back to work already?
JamVet
July 16th, 2012
8:55 pm
John McCain is a respectful and respectable man. He was/is a class act. And that is why, as much as any other reason, he was/is labeled a RINO and damn near swift boated by his own political party..
Mitt makes no such mistake. He is absolutely dripping with classlessness. He even looks a bit like Nixon. And his demeanor is dead on. A mean little pr!ck.
The difference being that Nixon had VAST intellectual curiosity. On the trip to China, he devoured books about them and asked for more. Mitt seems to have sold what he ever had to appease the “sluggish” RNC…
josef
July 16th, 2012
8:55 pm
JM
Actually DDR is one of the most intelligent, best educated, best read posters aboard….and I’ll say that even when crossing swords with her…and she being a young’un it’s even more impressive..and a looker, too? Shoot! What more could a breeder male ask for?
gm
July 16th, 2012
8:55 pm
Rep of the old days would never have voted for a piece of scum like Willard, oh I forgot Obama is a different color so he has to be a socialist, because CEO’s are making record profits since he has been in office.
The right shows why this country had collaps under the previous administration, these people are not really Americans, their is no pride in outsource of jobs, what a bunch of losers on the right””””
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 16th, 2012
8:55 pm
oy vey…. now Recon is name calling….
Scout is gonna be so disappointed in his little buddy. F Troop salute of shame. :lolL
bman
July 16th, 2012
8:55 pm
I haven’t listened to Rush Limbaugh since college. I only listened to him 4 or 5 times before I started singing to myself with no radio. This was the 90’s and I’m still not sure what my father was trying to teach me by my driving a 2-tone chevette (luggage rack-4door and automatic) with only an AM radio.
Still, I wonder what Rush Limbaugh has said about Obama since he was first elected. My guess is that he’s been right-on for 3 years. Who listens to him?
Soothsayer
July 16th, 2012
8:55 pm
Heck, Redneck, now I feel terrible for being so ugly to you. So, I thought I’d post this one to cheer you up! Heck, it always cheers me up!
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism; is Capitalists
July 16th, 2012
8:56 pm
Hiya Both!! Glad you got your ears on tonight!
Frog – I remind Dudley of that all the time. So far I’ve remained faithful to my vows, (hey I’m a realist — he’s away 8 outta 12 months a year), and his family and I are real close. I’ve asked for a “spousal raise” and I’m sure I’ll get it next time he comes home.
Jm
July 16th, 2012
8:56 pm
Josef 8:55 she has an odd way of displaying her supposed intelligence
Where was she educated?
barking frog
July 16th, 2012
8:57 pm
TBS
When Jm looks in a mirror
he sees an optical delusion
but he doesn’t recognize it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 16th, 2012
8:57 pm
Someone may have already posted this:
R.I.P. Kitty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYij4OpOY6E
Jm
July 16th, 2012
8:57 pm
Or maybe DDR can inform us of her education credentials since she’s here…..
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
8:57 pm
josef
I do agree. There will always be the far left and right wings, but there is a movement at least on the “social front” of a more inclusive approach within the Republican ranks.
Democrats need to wise up as well on how they approach numerous issues.
Recon 0311 2533
July 16th, 2012
8:58 pm
They both suck including you,
Sure and most certainly.
Jm
July 16th, 2012
8:58 pm
Josef 8:55 btw i could care less what she looks like
josef
July 16th, 2012
8:59 pm
Mr B
Shalom! Yeah, back to the daily. But at least I had a little time to do nothing except what I wanted to pretty much when I wanted to…new principal this year…my first impressions are highly positive…brought me lunch today!
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
8:59 pm
frog
BINGO
Brosephus™
July 16th, 2012
8:59 pm
Josef 8:55 she has an odd way of displaying her supposed intelligence
Not really sure if you’re the one that should be questioning someone else’s intelligence.
Just sayin’…
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:01 pm
Recon
If being for the death penalty, gun ownership, phasing out most if not all of the EITC, keeping capital gains at or no more than 5% higher makes me a commie pinko……..
I am good with it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 16th, 2012
9:01 pm
Headline: “Navy’s new gender-neutral carriers won’t have urinals”
“Sweepers, sweepers man (I mean woman) your brooms. Clean sweep fore and aft !”
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/11/navys-new-gender-neutral-carriers-wont-have-urinals/
JamVet
July 16th, 2012
9:02 pm
My guess is that he’s been right-on for 3 years.
???????????????????????????????????
The man who called that decent woman a slut and prostitute??
And he wants the videos of her f&cking???
Who refers to women as FemiNazis???
With decades of despicable and malicious lies about countless people.
He is a mentally vacuous, depraved idiot.
And little more.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism; is Capitalists
July 16th, 2012
9:02 pm
John McCain is a respectful and respectable man. He was/is a class act. And that is why, as much as any other reason, he was/is labeled a RINO and damn near swift boated by his own political party..
I’ll never forget the “McCain’s adopted a black baby” slander that Rove created in South Carolina in order to get Dubya the win. What was even more unforgivable to me was the fact that McCain went BACK to them in 2008 begging for their approval.
I woulda went Independent first before I would’ve taken a DIME from them — he probably would’ve been President instead of Obama if he would’ve went Indie.
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:04 pm
Bro
Well if you want to go down that path
If one had to be intelligent to open one’s mouth, I’m sure you’d be a mute
Recon 0311 2533
July 16th, 2012
9:04 pm
TBS says…”I am good with it.”
Sorry, thought you were an Obama supporter.
josef
July 16th, 2012
9:05 pm
JM
She doesn’t make a big deal of her pieces of paper, but, uh, they are impressive enough. It’s what she knows to go with them, though, that makes her outstanding…
And for the record, she and I have tangled before and she gave me one of the best runs for my money I’ve “enjoyed” here…
GOOD FIGHT
BOTH
nice link….
And as for as the move, you’re right. The social issues thing is going to be an interesting thing to watch…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 16th, 2012
9:05 pm
They BOTH suck:
Some new ones:
A: Guns have only two enemies – rust and liberal Democrats.
B: It’s always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
C: Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.
D: Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arms length.
E: Never say “I’ve got a gun.” If you need to use deadly force, the first (and last) sound they hear should be “boom! boom! (double tap).
F: The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes, the response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.
G: The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win – cheat if necessary.
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:05 pm
Recon
continued. If at 42 yrs old, having earned a retirement from Fortune 500 company, owning my own business and 3 properties makes me a commie pinko to you
I’m good with it
I know that doesn’t fit your weak broad brushed stereotypes that you come on this blog with, but not much does……………….. if you were to be honest
Doggone/GA
July 16th, 2012
9:06 pm
“I’ll never forget the “McCain’s adopted a black baby” slander that Rove created in South Carolina”
It was worst than that. McCain DID adopt a dark skinned daughter. The ad said, or at least implied, that she was his NATURAL daughter.
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:06 pm
“John McCain is a respectful and respectable man. He was/is a class act. And that is why, as much as any other reason, he was/is labeled a RINO and damn near swift boated by his own political party..”
Just nonsense
Liberals always profess former republican candidates and presidents as being more liberal than the current crazy con
It’s their standard ratchet tool at work
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:06 pm
Scout
We do not have too much disagreement on that list
Maybe a little, but not enough to even quarrel about
Brosephus™
July 16th, 2012
9:08 pm
jm
If that’s what you want to believe, so be it. Just be cognizant that simply believing in something doesn’t automatically make it factual. I tend to be somewhat quiet anyway when there’s nothing worth responding to.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism; is Capitalists
July 16th, 2012
9:09 pm
Thanks josef and SoCoBro.
to paraphrase Blanche –
“I’ve always depended on the kidness of Gentlemen.”
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:09 pm
“The ad said, or at least implied, that she was his NATURAL daughter.”
Bingo. Post of the day.
Don’t forget the SBVs that were not connected to the Bush team (wink wink), but yet Rove knew someone directly tied to one of their financial backers as he did to the group who ran the ad in South Carolina
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:09 pm
1 hour ago McCain was the crazy who picked palin
Now he’s a class act
Liberals are nuts
bman.
July 16th, 2012
9:10 pm
Jam : “The man who called that decent woman a slut and prostitute?? And he wants the videos of her f&cking??? Who refers to women as FemiNazis??? With decades of despicable and malicious lies about countless people.”
I do remember the prostitute story. But, that isn’t what I said. What all has Rush Limbaugh said about Obama since he was first elected.
I don’t know what he’s said over the last 3 years about Obama. I was just wondering how off the mark he’s been during that time.
Soothsayer
July 16th, 2012
9:10 pm
Scout: would you mind if I save a copy of your 9:05? You never know when it might be useful!
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:11 pm
“I’ve always depended on the kidness of Gentlemen.”
Probably another welfare mom.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 16th, 2012
9:13 pm
Sooth:
Not mine (although I did make just a few adjustments) ………. should have been in quotes.
Recon 0311 2533
July 16th, 2012
9:13 pm
TBS, I’m glad you’ve made it to age 42. I’m a little bit ahead of you by one quarter of a century. You can stick your broad brush where the sun never shines but I’d bet that you wouldn’t even feel it.
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:13 pm
“I’ve always depended on the kidness of Gentlemen.”
Prostitution is illegal
Probably better fishing on Craigslist too
just FYI
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:14 pm
DDR, for a smart person, tees the golf ball up nicely
Thanks DDR
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:15 pm
Recon
As stated before I voted for Hillary in 08 but will be voting for Obama this November
Not to keen on a Repub House for sure and maybe Senate and Romney WH.
While I stated that their is a movement within the Repub Party to moderate on social issues, it isn’t there yet.
Brosephus™
July 16th, 2012
9:15 pm
Y’all have fun… I don’t wanna see jm end up with a feather boa shoved into a parallel universe.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 16th, 2012
9:17 pm
I’m a little bit ahead of you by one quarter of a century. You can stick your broad brush where the sun never shines but I’d bet that you wouldn’t even feel it
Churlish old man yells at clouds about lack of sun…
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism; is Capitalists
July 16th, 2012
9:20 pm
If one had to be intelligent to open one’s mouth, I’m sure you’d be a mute
If only you’d follow your own idiom………..
DG: McCain DID adopt a dark skinned daughter. The ad said, or at least implied, that she was his NATURAL daughter
OMG — she was from Indonesia right? They’d take something so sweet and sefless that two people could do for a child, and turn it into some racist BS to garner votes! How very “republican” of them.
Josef
July 16th, 2012
9:20 pm
DDR
Well, he and I are Southern gentlemen of culture and breeding and don’t accept that chivalry is dead.
Old Goober
July 16th, 2012
9:21 pm
While campaigning on behalf of Republican Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney Monday at the American Legion Post 351 in Utica, Arizona Sen. John McCain slammed President Barack Obama for looming military cuts and a high unemployment rate for veterans.
Is this the “class act” everybody’s praising? The guy who voted for the “looming military cuts” and now wants to blame Obama for them?
Some of you really have a distorted notion of what a “class act” is. McCain is every bit the nasty, embittered old man that he was even before he secured the nomination. In fact, his pick of Palin, contrary to the notion that he was inspired, was a deliberate attempt to snub his opponents in the nomination race. He’s the kind of guy who will twist his boot heel in the face of a defeated opponent. Next, I suppose you’ll be calling Limbaugh a class act.
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:21 pm
Rerun (Recon)
“You can stick your broad brush where the sun never shines but I’d bet that you wouldn’t even feel it.”
No need for me to stick it anywhere. It is apparent to all that you are so shallow that you are unwilling or unable to paint without a broad brush. I would not want a Baby Huey like yourself to be without her proper tools. So you keep on doing the only thing you know how to do. Paint with your BROAD BRUSHES.
Take care now
Josef
July 16th, 2012
9:22 pm
BOTH
Speaking of obsessions…
Recon 0311 2533
July 16th, 2012
9:23 pm
Keep, you must be a pathetic little man of no significant accomplishments in your life. I pity you but cannot help you, so I must ignore you even though I hope that you can find comfort from somewhere.
Doggone/GA
July 16th, 2012
9:24 pm
“OMG — she was from Indonesia right?”
I believe she is, yes. And now that I think about it, I’m not sure if there were actual ads or not. What I remember is what is called “push polling” – where they would have telephone polls and one of the questions was something like “would you vote for a white candidate who has a black daughter” – or words to that effect.
bman.
July 16th, 2012
9:25 pm
“As stated before I voted for Hillary in 08 but will be voting for Obama this November”
I understand the Romney & rep house/senate majority concern. I really do prefer some balance of power. But, you witnessed what Obama and the democrats did when they were in the position that you are now using as one reason to not vote for Romney.
Did the process that the healthcare law went through truly not bother you? And after witnessing that power-grab, you would vote for him again?
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:25 pm
Mr Evangelical (RECON) tells me to stick a broad brush somewhere. Note: not all evangelical / conservative Christians are like Rerun. And that is a great thing
That latent physiological issue is eating him up.
I can’t help on that accord.
It will play out again……… No doubt
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:26 pm
Old goober 9:21
Thanks for proving my point
Liberals like to make the facts fit the circumstances rather than evaluating facts on their own merit
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:27 pm
bman
Since there will be no Dem House. That is the safest bet you can make in Vegas, I will be voting for Obama for the 1st time in November.
As I stated and you indicated in your post, I voted for Hillary in 08.
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:27 pm
Bman 9:25
Don’t worry
Even if republicans win the senate, they won’t have a filibuster proof majority like the democrats did
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism; is Capitalists
July 16th, 2012
9:28 pm
sniff sniff……..anyone smell that?
Smells like that little french poodle has crapped all over the blog. Again. I guess he’ll do anything for attention…….
barking frog
July 16th, 2012
9:29 pm
Enter your comments here
Recon 0311 2533
July 16th, 2012
9:30 pm
Suck, seems to be obsessed by me and his own self importance. Sorry lad, you’re not that relevant or important to me but you can carry on.
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:30 pm
Let’s see a liberal try to craft a reasonably factual, balanced, portrait of McCain
Any lib up to the task?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 16th, 2012
9:30 pm
Soothsayer
July 16th, 2012
9:30 pm
Well, you know what? I’m out of here too.
Just a reminder: The British Open begins Thursday. You can watch it on ESPN beginning at 7:00 am (12:00 noon local time) through 3:00 pm (8:00 pm local time) Thursday – Sunday.
You don’t want to miss it! This is a biggie! And all of the “biggies” will be there! Tiger, Phil, Rory, Graeme, Furyk, as well as a host of Eurpopean players, etc.
Coming, this year, from Royal Lytham & St. Anne’s — Yorkshire, you can recall where Bobby Jones won in 1926. Four years before he won the “Grand Slam” — all four majors in one year.
If you get the chance, try to watch some of the tournament. Especially late on Sunday. It will be unforgettable, I know.
JamVet
July 16th, 2012
9:31 pm
Debbie, Karl Rove was disgraceful and pathetic human being. In every way. And to that extent he was the very face of the cowardly and immoral previous administration.
And again, why McCain was, in that regard, the polar opposite of these gutless neocons…
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:32 pm
Ddr’s 9:28 – clearly the work of a genius /sarc/
Ok, well, moving on….
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:32 pm
have another spirit , Recon. That seems to be the time that your version of the Holy Spirit really goes to work
Make it a double. Drink up Johnny
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 16th, 2012
9:33 pm
josef, an indecent jewress proposal?
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:33 pm
“I think he is skeered cause Mitt is getting whupped.”
Or because he was the last Repub standing
Doggone/GA
July 16th, 2012
9:34 pm
“Karl Rove was disgraceful and pathetic human being”
Was?
barking frog
July 16th, 2012
9:34 pm
The most significant moments of the life of
John ‘Crash’ McCain were
the multimillion dollar
aircraft he destroyed.
The pos remained a pow
when offered freedom
which helped no one.
After the military he left
the woman who stood by
him through the war for
a beer princess who has
financed the rest of his
pointless career. He is
the epitome of Republican
hypocrisy. As a result of
cross party voting to stop
Hilary for him, He handed
the White House to Barak
Obama for eight years
which will probably his
only positive historical
contribution.
Peter
July 16th, 2012
9:34 pm
Looks like Romney and Bain and took the part of Michael Douglas in Wall Street and ran it perfectly. Buy up companies, load them with debt, and sell off the parts, screw the employees…..
Yup this is a guy all Republican’s who would sell their own children down the road should be proud of !
Old Goober
July 16th, 2012
9:35 pm
Even if republicans win the senate, they won’t have a filibuster proof majority like the democrats did
And what makes you think Republicans will play by the rules? In fact, McConnell has already said that he will use reconciliation, wherein a simple majority is sufficient, to repeal Obamacare. And if that tactic can be used in that case, it can be used in others. One of the huge mistakes the Senate Democrats have made is to put too much faith in Harry Reid, who does play by the rules, thereby permitting a Senate minority to veto just about everything.
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:36 pm
Kam or Sooth
Not sure, but I think it was one of them that said the right leaning desperation would be increasing as the days draw closer to the election……….
Heck, we are still months out
Peter
July 16th, 2012
9:37 pm
Let’s see a liberal try to craft a reasonably factual, balanced, portrait of McCain
McCain…… the guy who wanted to cut benefits to returning war veterans…… you speaking about ?
Recon 0311 2533
July 16th, 2012
9:37 pm
Jm,
Sad when a woman or a male gets sexual fulfillment on a political blog that some seem to do without mentioning any names.
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:37 pm
Old Goober
Reid is not a good Senate leader for sure
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:37 pm
Doggone 9:34 – agreed. He’s the modern Lee At-water. His liberal counterpart is DAvid Axelrod, though Axelrod may not be quite as bad.
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism; is Capitalists
July 16th, 2012
9:37 pm
O.G.: Some of you really have a distorted notion of what a “class act” is. McCain is every bit the nasty, embittered old man that he was even before he secured the nomination
Yes – McCain is a politician but he’s also a basically good man. Unfortunately his allegiance to the republican party has warped all his common sense on some issues.
Remember, during his concession speech after the loss, he told the crowd that now was the time to come together to heal the country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss6lTP8BJ8
In the background you can hear the sore looser repugs booing when he, McCain, says that he called Obama to congratulate him.
bman.
July 16th, 2012
9:38 pm
TBS .. .. I like Hillary Clinton. As much as she was for universal healthcare, I do not believe she would have gone the same route as Obama. I cannot even equate it to something the republicans might have done/do is they had the majority….
The way the healthcare was pushed in is much, much more than reason enough to not vote for Obama. I’m having a tough time fearing republican rule after that.
Peter
July 16th, 2012
9:38 pm
Gotta love the Republican’s……. thereby permitting a Senate minority to veto just about everything.
Filibuster everything so American’s can suffer more..all for an ego !
Peter
July 16th, 2012
9:40 pm
Yes – McCain is a politician but he’s also a basically good man. Unfortunately his allegiance to the republican party has warped all his common sense on some issues.
Some issues ???????
Didn’t he state he would stop working with the Democrat’s once Obama care went through ?
Gosh he is soooooooo wanting to help American’s !
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:40 pm
Frog 9:34 dude u seem to have some vitriol for McCain
What happened to the happy go lucky frog?
What irks u so much about McCain?
Peter 9:37 fail
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 16th, 2012
9:41 pm
Sad when a woman or a male gets sexual fulfillment on a political blog that some seem to do without mentioning any names
Recon, I suggest you order a lot of the gum to solve your issues, sport
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:41 pm
bman
Understood and thanks for the reply. Obamacare as it stands will go further in terms of implementation than many on the right believe, imo.
With that said, it will not be the law you see today. It will be sliced and diced before it is all said and done. When I say that, it may or may not be the worst thing for that law, which surely needs work.
Don't Tread
July 16th, 2012
9:42 pm
”He must have calculated that there are higher costs in releasing them”
Kinda like King 0bama invoking executive privilege to keep Fast and Furious covered up, eh? Or sealing his college records, for that matter. Or a half-dozen other things we know about, and probably dozens we don’t know about. Makes one wonder.
There must be higher costs to be paid if the truth gets out, you think?
But just being wealthy is a felony according to liberals (”439 times median household income”, and so forth). Why don’t you compare notes on your criminal activities with your favorite convicted felon (George Soros)?
Peter
July 16th, 2012
9:42 pm
Jm . Go find his voting record, and prove yourself wrong. McCain cut benefits for veterans, and services.
Josef
July 16th, 2012
9:43 pm
Good Fight…
Interesting! I’m on iPad now and the vid won’t come up…
BOTH
The Cartman Comeback….
barking frog
July 16th, 2012
9:43 pm
Jm
Are you getting sexual
fulfillment all over the
blog ??
JamVet
July 16th, 2012
9:43 pm
The days of that detestable, embarrassing (hat tip Natalie Mines) administration are behind us.
And now the goal is simple.
To never allow any Romney semblance of it to arise again.
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:44 pm
josef
You have to see Keep’s link.
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:45 pm
Old goober 9:35
Repealing obamacare via reconciliation is by the rules
It’s a spending bill
But democrats don’t need to worry about the whole legal morass that we live with being repealed
Though it might be nice to start with a blank slate
bman.
July 16th, 2012
9:46 pm
” it will not be the law you see today. It will be sliced and diced before it is all said and done.”
I’m hoping you’re right, and I’m hoping they (lawmakers) try as hard as possible to get it right. I visited the DMV last week & waited hours. The big change that has caused the mess? Bring your social security card. The healthcare law has the makings of a serious clusterf*ck.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 16th, 2012
9:46 pm
“Law of the Sea Treaty now dead”
Hopefully, the U.N. gun control monster will be next.
barking frog
July 16th, 2012
9:46 pm
Jm
Truth is not vitriol. Read
again.
Jm
July 16th, 2012
9:46 pm
Peter 9:42 a single vote does not a career make
They BOTH suck
July 16th, 2012
9:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur5ZFKv-_Po
DebbieDoRight - The Only Thing Wrong With Capitalism; is Capitalists
July 16th, 2012
9:47 pm
Jam : Debbie, Karl Rove was disgraceful and pathetic human being. In every way. And to that extent he was the very face of the cowardly and immoral previous administration.
He’s working in MItt’s camp now — it’s the same song with a different singer. Mitt has Rove, Cheney, and even Rumsfeld as his “advisors”. It’s sickening how low these people will go.
And again, why McCain was, in that regard, the polar opposite of these gutless neocons…
Word.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 16th, 2012
9:48 pm
Recon 0311 2533 :
Did you see this the other day??
“As one female Marine told msnbc.com, “No one questions why there aren’t any females in the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. Olympic athletes are the elite of the elite. No one questions why the women compete against women and men against men. Those are great sports and achievements. But lives and missions aren’t on the line. In our world, if you move slower one day, you don’t get bumped off the medal stand, you could die or get someone else killed.”
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/12/12684555-women-in-the-infantry-forget-about-it-says-female-marine-officer?lite
JamVet
July 16th, 2012
9:49 pm
As a life long anti-Republican, I could slice and dice McCain’s record and policies from now until next Sunday.
Nonetheless, in my estimation, he is essentially an honorable man.
And in my worthless opinion, Mitt Romney is not, and he is unfit to lead…