Condi Rice for Mitt’s veep? You mean THIS Condi Rice?

Condi Rice for vice president?

Personally, I think it’s a great idea, but only if Joe Biden decides that he doesn’t want a second term.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

But wait … Drudge is reporting that she’s now a frontrunner for the Republican veep pick?

Hmmm. That would be interesting. She is obviously qualified for the position, and her selection would shake up the campaign in ways that no other potential candidate could match.

On the other hand:

She has described President Bush’s decision to withdraw from the Kyoto Treaty on climate change as a “self-inflicted wound,” and while she doesn’t support implementing Kyoto in its present form, she believes the United States must lead international action on that problem.

Rice has also discussed what she calls her “mildly pro-choice” views, defends Roe v. Wade and “can’t imagine why one would take these decisions out of the hands of the family.” She believes it “appropriate” to consider race in college admissions, says affirmative action is needed “if it does not lead to quotas” and acknowledges that she herself benefited from the program. As secretary of state, she appointed that department’s first chief diversity officer.

She supports civil unions for gay Americans and warns against mixing religion and politics, “because that is really when man is trying to use God for his own purposes.” She has also made clear her distaste for the Dick Cheney school of foreign policy, from which Romney has drawn most of his foreign policy advisers. In fact, she publicly defended Obama against charges by Cheney that he has weakened the country, nothing that “Nothing in this president’s methods suggests this president is other than a defender of America’s interests.”

Rice is on the record as recognizing that both tax increases and spending cuts will be needed to balance the budget, with an emphasis on spending cuts. However, she opposes spending cuts on foreign aid, which Romney has proposed, and backs “strong investment in renewable energy like wind and solar” to begin to wean the country off oil.

She believes most illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in this country, advocating “comprehensive immigration reform”. The United States, she said in 2008, “is going to have to have enlightened immigration policies if we’re going to stay this strong, competitive, open magnet for the best and brightest from around the world that we’ve been.”

And on Israel, the conservative Jewish Telegraphic Agency warns that ‘overall she’s a big advocate of a two-state solution who is closer to the Obama team on this issue than she is to where the GOP candidates and GOP base have been during this campaign season.”

Now, if the modern Republican Party is nonetheless willing to have a candidate with such beliefs on its national ticket — and if it’s willing to “let Condi be Condi,” rather than force her to do a full Romney and recant these and other positions — then I think that her nomination would be great for both the party and the nation.

Somehow, I’m a little doubtful that’s going to happen.

– Jay Bookman

511 comments Add your comment

Jefferson

July 13th, 2012
2:04 pm

Let Romney’s off shore banks get in something where his money is in jepardy and he would launch nukes to save his fortune if he was the president.

stands for decibels

July 13th, 2012
2:05 pm

personally i like Luis Fortuno….he’s my dark horse for VP

somewhat ashamed to admit I had to google that one. Yeah, it’d come out of left field, all right. Can’t even imagine the returns on that if you’d put money on the choice.

man behind the curtain

July 13th, 2012
2:05 pm

Wonder how the rumors of her being gay might have played out in Gaddafi’s fantasies of her?

Joe Hussein Mama

July 13th, 2012
2:07 pm

M. Curtain — “Wonder how the rumors of her being gay might have played out in Gaddafi’s fantasies of her?

Quelle Horreur :eek:

josef

July 13th, 2012
2:08 pm

Well, say whatever else one will of Condi, here we are 300 posts in and still on topic, so she’s got traction if nothing else…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

July 13th, 2012
2:08 pm

Fox News is escalating the rhetoric on weapons of mass destruction, sarin, mustard gas and chemical agents in regards to Syria.

Here we go again.

getalife

July 13th, 2012
2:09 pm

“It’s described as a sexual position where you climb on top and then do absolutely nothing!” weeping speaker.

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 13th, 2012
2:11 pm

Obama is over

July 13th, 2012
2:11 pm

Josef @ 12:16

Well said.

TaxPayer

July 13th, 2012
2:11 pm

Congress might need to fork over some more bucks to Southern Company for them nuke plants before that “green” energy project is done. Would have been money better spent on some Georgia-grown wood alcohol from pine project… oops, maybe not. That methanol will rot your brain.

Jefferson

July 13th, 2012
2:12 pm

Fox is late, saw that way earlier.

Zedd

July 13th, 2012
2:12 pm

GL – touchee! “Tito, get me some tissue!”

Joseph

July 13th, 2012
2:12 pm

It is pure joy to watch liberals cringe at terror of the thought of someone like Condi being VP. Of course Jay is spewing non-sense with this tripe but non the less its laughable the lengths libs go to with sleazeball tactics…. Well anyway this is the Condi I know Jay….

http://news.yahoo.com/condoleezza-rice-speech-hits-immigration-hot-button-044405334.html

Recon 0311 2533

July 13th, 2012
2:12 pm

I think Condi Rice would be an excellent choice and I’m both a fiscal and social conservative. She has, however, indicated many times no interest in the VP slot.

josef

July 13th, 2012
2:13 pm

K’CHAK

Speaking of Syria, did you catch where the Syrian ambassador to Iraq defected and joined the opposition?

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:14 pm

getalife

Your boy Brees got paid

Joe Hussein Mama

July 13th, 2012
2:14 pm

Joseph — “It is pure joy to watch liberals cringe at terror of the thought of someone like Condi being VP.”

Where are you seeing that? Because every liberal posting here about it seems to be saying ‘yeah, ffine, go ahead and run her.’ Doesn’t look like cringing OR terror to me.

josef

July 13th, 2012
2:15 pm

BOTH

I’m biting my tongue! :-)

Jefferson

July 13th, 2012
2:15 pm

Condi is a better deal than Romney.

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:16 pm

“Well anyway this is the Condi I know Jay…”

Well actually you know of and about, you do not know Condi.

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:16 pm

josef

I will as well……… for now

:-)

getalife

July 13th, 2012
2:18 pm

Both,

He deserves it.

We would suk without him.

East Lake Ira

July 13th, 2012
2:18 pm

No one is afraid of Condi.

She’s very smart and certainly meets the qualifications to be VP.

She was also a horrible NSA and a poor SoS.

mm

July 13th, 2012
2:19 pm

You cons love to sling mud. But you whine like b*tches when mud is slung in your direction.

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:19 pm

josef

I read that about the Syrian ambassador as well as Russia stating that they are cutting of arms sales….. for now.

Joseph

July 13th, 2012
2:19 pm

Joe Hussein Mama:

They stand out like a turd in a punch bowl. It’s like a little boy standing in a haunted house saying I’m not scared and then you look down and he’s wet his pants… Its laughable….

getalife

July 13th, 2012
2:20 pm

The moving the wmd’s in Syria is probably propaganda but could happen.

mm

July 13th, 2012
2:21 pm

“It is pure joy to watch liberals cringe at terror of the thought of someone like Condi being VP.””

Why do you cons always claim the libs are “scared” of your candidates? You said the same laughable thing about Palin, Gingrich, etc.

Libs aren’t afraid of your candidates. They are afraid of what your candidates will do to this country.

Bernie

July 13th, 2012
2:22 pm

Most African Americans have known the “CONDI” and Herman Cain types. The first one was spotted upon leaving the first slave ship named the “Good Ship Jesus”, as they walked down the plank in chains, one said “what a lovely Morning we have here, SUH” with the broadest smile.

He was America’s first Republican……….

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:22 pm

“The moving the wmd’s in Syria is probably propaganda but could happen.”

Could it be all those WMDs that some on the right claimed Saddam moved to Syria? Who knows

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:23 pm

mm

So true. I remember the calling CRY of how Newt would kill Obama in debate. He could not even kill Ron Paul who is still standing.

hahahahahaha

larry

July 13th, 2012
2:24 pm

Libs aren’t afraid of your candidates. They are afraid of what your candidates will do to this country.

Im very scared considering their track record of what they will do.
Not only nationally , but locally as well.

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:26 pm

Bernie @ 2:22

That was weak and degrading to the entire black community.

Enough said

Fred ™

July 13th, 2012
2:26 pm

I like Condi and always have. I think she was treated shabbily by far left wing nutcases and the press quite often.

Besides, she can play the hell out of the piano and ANYONE who jams with Aretha is cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPDSfjpLwZg

josef

July 13th, 2012
2:26 pm

On Syria…

I think it’s pretty well established that Assad is on his way out, one way or the other, the problem now is pulling together some coalition of opposition with someone who can shepherd the transition. There doesn’t appear such on the horizon, though.

getalife

July 13th, 2012
2:26 pm

“Could it be all those WMDs that some on the right claimed Saddam moved to Syria?”

Doubt that.

The right are not credible but they could get lucky and get something right.

I hope assad does not pull a saddam.

SBinf

July 13th, 2012
2:27 pm

Please God yes.

I have not lived a righteous enough life for this to happen!

Bush’s sec of state, oh my heavens. It would be easy as pie…

PJ

July 13th, 2012
2:28 pm

“They stand out like a turd in a punch bowl. It’s like a little boy standing in a haunted house saying I’m not scared and then you look down and he’s wet his pants… Its laughable….”

And the Big Bad Woof said, “Then I’ll huff and I’ll puff and I’ll blow you house down.”

Joe Hussein Mama

July 13th, 2012
2:28 pm

Joseph — “They stand out like a turd in a punch bowl. It’s like a little boy standing in a haunted house saying I’m not scared and then you look down and he’s wet his pants… Its laughable….”

Shrug. I don’t see any fear of her here at all, despite what you and 0311 and your ilk would apparently like to believe.

Seriously, go ahead and run with her. I don’t think she will add what you expect to your ticket, but hey, it’s the GOP’s choice who they want to run.

Speaking for myself, I don’t fear her at all, but then again, she’s a lot farther left than y’all seem to think.

Hey, 0311. You think Dr. Rice voted for President Obama? They *are* the same skin tone, you know. :roll:

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:28 pm

josef

Great point. Much consensus that he needs to go, but very little consensus on the transition and how to tame the power struggle and fighting that will arise

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

July 13th, 2012
2:28 pm

Condi? Now there’s a conservative I can somewhat agree with…

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:29 pm

getalife

It was a joke

JamVet

July 13th, 2012
2:29 pm

It is an irrefutable fact that it is the neocons who are utterly obsessed with fear and being afraid.

They live in constant fear.

Fear of Muslims.

Fear of Mexicans.

Fear of homosexuals.

And teeth-rattling fer of liberals, independents, moderates, progressives, greens and all other non-Republicans.

Fear of pretty much everybody and everything that is remotely different from them.

Fear drives their groupthink.

So how do they deal with this generalized anxiety? (LOL) They contend it is everyone else who lives in fear.

Consider for a moment just how terrifying it must be to live life as a true believer on the right. Reality is scary enough, but the alternative reality inhabited by people who watch Glenn Beck, listen to Rush Limbaugh, or think Michele Bachmann isn’t a joke must be nothing less than horrifying.

AlterNetResearch suggests that conservatives are, on average, more susceptible to fear than those who identify themselves as liberals. Looking at MRIs of a large sample of young adults last year, researchers at University College London discovered that “greater conservatism was associated with increased volume of the right amygdala” ($$). The amygdala is an ancient brain structure that’s activated during states of fear and anxiety. (The researchers also found that “greater liberalism was associated with increased gray matter volume in the anterior cingulate cortex” – a region in the brain that is believed to help people manage complexity.)

That has implications for our political world. In a recent interview, Chris Mooney, author of “The Republican Brain,”explained, “The amygdala plays the same role in every species that has an amygdala. It basically takes over to save your life. It does other things too, but in a situation of threat, you cease to process information rationally and you’re moving automatically to protect yourself.”

The finding also fits with other data. Mooney discusses studies conducted at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln in which self-identified liberals and conservatives were shown images – apolitical images – that were intended to elicit different emotions. Mooney explains that “there were images that caused fear and disgust — a spider crawling on a person’s face, maggots in an open wound — but also images that made you feel happy: a smiling child, a bunny rabbit.” The researchers noted two differences between the groups. The researchers studied their subjects’ reactions by tracking their eye movements and monitoring their “skin conductivity” – a measure of one’s autonomic nervous system’s reaction to stimuli.

Conservatives showed much stronger skin responses to negative images, compared with the positive ones. Liberals showed the opposite. And when the scientists turned to studying eye gaze or “attentional” patterns, they found that conservatives looked much more quickly at negative or threatening images, and [then] spent more time fixating on them.

Mooney concludes that this “new research suggests [that] conservatism is largely a defensive ideology — and therefore, much more appealing to people who go through life sensitive and highly attuned to aversive or threatening aspects of their environments.”

larry

July 13th, 2012
2:29 pm

Bernie @ 2:22

That was weak and degrading to the entire black community

AGREE!!

josef

July 13th, 2012
2:30 pm

FRED

You beat me to it. I had it in mind for FNM!

BERNIE

You’re an embarrassment to the homo sapiens species…

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 13th, 2012
2:31 pm

I hope condi is the VP

But shes not the only one I would like as VP

There are lots of other equally good choices, but for different reasons

getalife

July 13th, 2012
2:31 pm

Both,

I know.

Fred ™

July 13th, 2012
2:31 pm

josef; I don’t do FNM. My posts get pulled randomly……….

PJ

July 13th, 2012
2:33 pm

“Libs aren’t afraid of your candidates. They are afraid of what your candidates will do to this country.”

I’m afraid of those who support their candidates with votes. They are some scary people.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

July 13th, 2012
2:33 pm

Bernie, I have to say that I found your 2:22 post rather offensive. While I believe Mr. Cain is despicable for a number of reasons (none of which relate to his race), I do not think your comment is fair or needed. As for Ms. Rice, while I may not agree with her on all positions, I think she deserves respect for what she has accomplished.

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:33 pm

getalife

The joke was that people actually believed it and if you ever listen to Sean Hannity he still touts that bs

Peadawg

July 13th, 2012
2:33 pm

Dude, this guy is soooo good

President Obama Impersonator has 99 Problems (and Mitt Ain’t One)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qKXZ6quhps0

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 13th, 2012
2:35 pm

Tbs 2:26 bout time a lib dropped that on Bernie

Excellent

Erwin's cat

July 13th, 2012
2:35 pm

stands for dB’s – “somewhat ashamed to admit I had to google that one. Yeah, it’d come out of left field, all right. Can’t even imagine the returns on that if you’d put money on the choice.”

not that far out there…below from wiki:

In January 2012, Fortuño endorsed former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney for President during an event in Miami, FL and on April 5 Romney spoke highly of Fortuño when asked if he had a list of potential Vice Presidential nominees, stating that Puerto Rico’s governor is “a solid conservative and a firm leader”… “and he certainly qualifies as one of the great leaders of our party”. Others also speculate that he may be included in a vice presidential “short list”.

he is a fiscal conservative for sure and would help with the hispanic vote..look at what he got done in PR…although his popularity has dropped quite a bit in PR, he made the hard choices

Bernie

July 13th, 2012
2:38 pm

They BOTH suck @ 2:26 pm – You are obviously not African American because you are being betrayed by your own words.

josef

July 13th, 2012
2:40 pm

FRED

I’ll post it in your name then, with your permission…

K’CHAK

Earlier you made the point that this is a trial balloon and we’ll see more. I think you’re right and that it came via Drudge would indicate that it’s a test of how the radical right will react. Judging from here, that balloon just might fly…

Bernie

July 13th, 2012
2:40 pm

A nerve has been “TOUCHED”. The “TRUTH” is stranger than fiction.

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:41 pm

Jm

No problem. That was off the chart

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 13th, 2012
2:41 pm

I can’t decide if Bernie is a faux liberal just making a mess

Or a real liberal that is just a real jacka$$

Either way he blows

Fred ™

July 13th, 2012
2:43 pm

josef: Not a problem.

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:43 pm

Bernie

No I am not. However my girlfriend is and she would not be amused to say the least.

So if you are or are not, it was a despicable thing to say.

PERIOD

Carole

July 13th, 2012
2:43 pm

I can’t imagine that Condi wants to spend 4 or 8 years with another clueless Richey Rich. She would definitely be the brains of the operation.

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:45 pm

Jm

Just a jack@ss

Politics are not even in play regardless of how he is attempting to mask it.

josef

July 13th, 2012
2:46 pm

BERNIE

@ 2:38

Don’t know if you’re an African American or not either, but you’re an expletive deleted nonetheless.

Bernie

July 13th, 2012
2:46 pm

They BOTH suck @ 2:43 pm – neither the Other SLAVES were amused!

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:46 pm

Carole

While I do not agree with much of his proposed policies, the man is not “clueless”

However that was a funny post

Joe Hussein Mama

July 13th, 2012
2:48 pm

Carole — “I can’t imagine that Condi wants to spend 4 or 8 years with another clueless Richey Rich. She would definitely be the brains of the operation.”

Wow, that’s a great point. I hadn’t considered that.

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:49 pm

Bernie

Quit being a RICHARD. You have received as much attention as you deserve for a life time.

You are coming across as a bigot.

Everyone, please stop feeding the troll. This will be my last post to that shallow nothing

mm

July 13th, 2012
2:50 pm

“he is a fiscal conservative”

When will you cons stop with the “fiscal conservative” crap. There is no such thing. In 8 years under Bush, the GOP spent like drunken sailors claiming “deficits don’t matter”. They doubled the debt.

And Obama, unable to reverse the policies that did the damage, has driven it even higher. Most of his deficit has come from tax cuts and the drop in tax revenue due to the great recession.

Fred ™

July 13th, 2012
2:51 pm

josef

July 13th, 2012
2:46 pm

BERNIE

@ 2:38

Don’t know if you’re an African American or not either, but you’re an expletive JACKASS deleted nonetheless.
++++++++++++++++++++++++

There I fixed that for you josef lol.

Midori

July 13th, 2012
2:52 pm

http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-to-sit-down-with-abc-today

Romney To Sit For Network Interviews Today

Source: Buzzfeed

The source said Romney will sit down with ABC, NBC, and CBS, and will air on the nightly news broadcasts.

The interviews come on the heels of a grueling week of campaign press for him — dominated by a Boston Globe story yesterday that re-awakened concerns over Romney’s record at Bain Capital.

Just FYI…..

Joe Hussein Mama

July 13th, 2012
2:52 pm

And we go now to Mitt Romney’s latest campaign appearance, with the Q&A session already under way:

AUDIENCE MEMBER: “Mister Romney, I don’t know what we should do about all these poor people we have. Do you have any idea how poor people got that way?”

M. ROMNEY: “I have no idea how poor people become poor. I assume they must have spent all their starting capital.”

I’m Joe Hussein Mama, and I support this satire. Your money back if not satisfied. :D

Midori

July 13th, 2012
2:52 pm

josef

July 13th, 2012
2:52 pm

FRED

Thanks. I’m under orders to be nice today! :-)

Erwin's cat

July 13th, 2012
2:54 pm

mm@2:50 – look him up…he’s the real deal

as for Obama…”unable” or “unwilling”?….surely he’s not responsible for his own actions or inactions

josef

July 13th, 2012
2:55 pm

midori

Hey! How’re you feeling? It’s good to see you here,

Fred ™

July 13th, 2012
2:56 pm

Hi Midori. How are ya?

josef: I screwed up the fix though lol. While proof read is my friend it’s a friend I rarely visit. :lol:

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
2:56 pm

Midori

Hello

Joe Hussein Mama

July 13th, 2012
2:56 pm

If Mr. Romney is looking for a minority or a woman to be his VP, maybe he should consider Meg Whitman, who unsuccessfully sought the CA Governorship in 2008, and who has been an executive at many successful US companies, not the least of which was eBay.

After all, Mrs. Whitman could help Mr. Romney find the Buy It Now button on the election, right? :D

Joe Hussein Mama

July 13th, 2012
2:57 pm

Midori, welcome, it is good to see you around. =-]

Dearie

July 13th, 2012
2:59 pm

You mean THIS Barack Obama….

I challenge anyone to watch this and still vote for President Obama. It is worth the time. This is a big decision.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-FGgoReyNE&feature=player_embedded

Dearie

July 13th, 2012
2:59 pm

You mean THIS Barack Obama….

I challenge anyone to watch this and still vote for President Obama. It is worth the time. This is a big decision.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-FGgoReyNE&feature=player_embedded

josef

July 13th, 2012
2:59 pm

Fred…

Well, maybe JACKASS deleted is more appropriate! :-)

Carole

July 13th, 2012
2:59 pm

If the Repubs think that putting Condi on the ballot will pull some blacks to their side, it’s possible. The problem is, she would only be the VP. The reality is, the big ticket item will still be Romney.

I would much rather see her run for President one day.

carlosgvv

July 13th, 2012
3:04 pm

PEW – “support for Capitalism down in US”

Joseph

July 13th, 2012
3:05 pm

Peadawg

July 13th, 2012
3:05 pm

What’s this news w/ Obama wanting to giver work-for-welfare waivers or something?

Bernie

July 13th, 2012
3:05 pm

Most ” BOOT LICKERS” enjoy the adoration from the other side. it makes them feel important.

larry

July 13th, 2012
3:09 pm

ROMNEY’S BEST CHOICE FOR VP !!
I TRUST VICE PRESIDENT CONDI RICE WITH THE FOOTBALL !!!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

July 13th, 2012
3:09 pm

josef

Little Billy Kristol floated this balloon a couple of days ago at The Weakly Standard.

Peadawg

July 13th, 2012
3:11 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/12/politics/john-king-bain/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Looks like Romney did indeed leave in 1999. Even Democrat friends of Obama are speaking out anonymously defending Romney. Obama needs to take it easy on this one.

Joe Hussein Mama

July 13th, 2012
3:11 pm

Quirky phenomenon happening TODAY. Have you ever heard about it? :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattanhenge

the cat

July 13th, 2012
3:12 pm

Bernie

July 13th, 2012
3:14 pm

I am sure if Mitts choice is a woman, All of their meetings will be held in the KITCHEN.
Mitts policies toward WOMEN certainly verifies that FACT! just as he did for all of his Black supporters he brought to the NAACP. His KITCHEN CABINET.

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 13th, 2012
3:14 pm

Peadawg

Explain that to usinuk next time

She’s in lala land

They BOTH suck

July 13th, 2012
3:16 pm

Peadawg

You are correct. That issue will not be getting much attraction

St Simons

July 13th, 2012
3:17 pm

She was what? Secretary of State? For who?

How can she run for anything when she claims to be a cabinet
member of an administration that according to Republicans
never existed?

Bernie

July 13th, 2012
3:17 pm

Mitts vision for America ” YOU are ALL SLAVES NOW’.

Joseph

July 13th, 2012
3:21 pm

Dems see whats coming in November so they are scrapping the bottom of the barrel with anything they can… Its sad really that the far left has hijacked the dem party. Some members were somewhat noble at one time…

TaxPayer

July 13th, 2012
3:22 pm

The Susan B. Anthony List, a prominent anti-abortion rights political action committee, balked at rumors on Friday that Mitt Romney is strongly considering the self-described “mildly pro-choice” Condoleezza Rice as his running mate.

In response to Thursday’s Drudge Report story that claims former Secretary of State Rice is “near the top of the list” of Romney’s potential vice presidential candidates, SBA List president Marjorie Dannenfelser pointed out that Romney promised to choose a running mate who shared his views on abortion.

Uh Oh! That don’t look good. Maybe if Condi were to come out in favor of vaginal probes, that would appease the Republicans.