Telling friend from foe, and foe from annoyance

Two contrasting quotes from yesterday’s news cycle, then three observations:

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“… overall my sense is that what (Hugo) Chavez has done over the last several years has not had a serious national security impact on us. We have to be vigilant. My main concern when it comes to Venezuela is having the Venezuelan people have a voice in their affairs, and that you end up ultimately having fair and free elections, which we don’t always see.”

– President Obama

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“This is a stunning and shocking comment by the president. It is disturbing to see him downplaying the threat posed to U.S. interests by a regime that openly wishes us ill. Hugo Chavez has provided safe haven to drug kingpins, encouraged regional terrorist organizations that threaten our allies like Colombia, has strengthened military ties with Iran and helped it evade sanctions, and has allowed a Hezbollah presence within his country’s borders.”

– Mitt Romney

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My conclusions?

1.) It takes disturbingly little to “shock and stun” Mitt Romney. What would he do if something truly serious happened? Keel over in a faint?

2.) We are the United States, with the world’s largest economy — by a lot — and the world’s largest military — by a lot, lot more. Chavez is a cancer-ridden tinpot dictator of a country with an economy the size of Maryland’s and a defense budget that’s 0.45 percent of the Pentagon budget. His entire schtick is to puff himself up by pretending that he poses some threat to the mighty United States, and Romney has given him exactly what he wants.

3.) According to Romney, Russia “is, without question, our number one geopolitical foe,” while “the greatest threat that the world faces is a nuclear Iran.” He says that “unless China changes its ways, on Day One of my presidency I will designate it a currency manipulator and take appropriate counteraction” and he now wants to treat little Venezuela as a serious threat to our national security. He also promises that as president, he “will commit to eliminating North Korea’s nuclear weapons and its nuclear-weapons infrastructure.”

A chapter heading from Mitt Romney's statement of foreign policy, titled "An American Century".

A chapter heading from Mitt Romney's statement of foreign policy, titled "An American Century".

We have serious differences with each of those countries, which pose challenges of varying sorts to American interests. Romney seems intent on handling all of them with the same overwrought approach. In addition, the foreign policy team that he has selected is dominated by those who advised President George W. Bush in his first term, more specifically by members of the Cheney faction that Bush gradually moved aside, if a little too late.

Foreign policy isn’t going to get a lot of attention in this race, but as we’ve learned the hard way, a single unexpected event can suddenly make it the most important item on the national agenda. To my mind, Obama has provided a calm, steady hand in foreign affairs; there is every sign that Romney would provide leadership of a different sort.

– Jay Bookman

563 comments Add your comment

ty webb

July 12th, 2012
10:22 am

I love when commenters who repeatedly make the most partisan comments, consistently from one particular ideological perspective, claim to be somewhat neutral.

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:22 am

By the way, when you invoke Kamchak, a blogger who never ever adds anything of substance to the debate, but exists purely to throw out snarky little witticisms (that are more feeble than witty) and who is a regular attendee at DragonCon, well…………maybe you shoud start your struggle for credibility elsewhere.

I’d also stay away from getalife and JamVet. Never add anything but vapidity….

stands for decibels (SfBA)

July 12th, 2012
10:22 am

Joe Hussein Mama

July 12th, 2012
10:22 am

B. Shockley — “LOL. Still waiting for documentation that I made anything up. Good luck with that.”

Okay, here you go, Sonny. From earlier in ths thread:

“You can try to spin it any way you want, but Romney ain’t the one who acted badly in this instance.”

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/07/12/telling-friend-from-foe-and-foe-from-annoyance/?cp=4#comment-1010587

Show me where I said that Romney acted badly. Otherwise, it’s something you made up.

Erwin's cat

July 12th, 2012
10:22 am

Stands for dB @10:05
A good read…whether he was involved or not in the Medical waste buusiness….it was purely a business deal…Bain didn’t gut it or ship jobs overseas…heck they turned a $75M biz into an $88M biz and kept hundreds if not thousands employed….how damning

Steve

July 12th, 2012
10:23 am

Why even engage in conversation with the Ben Shockley troll?

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:24 am

“I love when commenters who repeatedly make the most partisan comments, consistently from one particular ideological perspective, claim to be somewhat neutral.”

which is why we laugh and laugh at so-called “libertarians”

Joe Hussein Mama

July 12th, 2012
10:24 am

T. Webb — “I love when commenters who repeatedly make the most partisan comments, consistently from one particular ideological perspective, claim to be somewhat neutral.”

I love it when commenters consistently misrepresent the words of others, put words in their mouths and then demand that *their* version of what the other person said be taken as gospel truth — while simultaneously demanding what the poster *actually* said must be disregarded.

Lord Help Us

July 12th, 2012
10:24 am

‘a blogger who never ever adds anything of substance to the debate,’

Now that there’s a hoot…

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:24 am

Congratulations JHM…you don’t even understand your own post.

the cat

July 12th, 2012
10:24 am

Ben-why the continual hating on Dragoncon?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

July 12th, 2012
10:24 am

More Dragon*Con…… seems to be an obsession of a certain poster’s childishness. :roll: Me thinks he doth protesteth too much (he must have lost a costume contest)

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:26 am

“Why even engage in conversation with the Ben Shockley troll?”

I actually much prefer it when you don’t Steve. You’re on the list of those with little of substance to add to the discussion. In fact, your name is very near the top of that list.

1) Kamchak
2) getalife
3) Steve
4) JamVet

Steve

July 12th, 2012
10:27 am

I rest my case :)

Paul

July 12th, 2012
10:27 am

Ben Shockley

One thing at a time. You know, taking turns and responding before going off on other tangents.

Who’s your cite for saying the top 1 percent of taxpayers pay about 90 percent of taxes?

But while you’re still trying to find the cite somewhere other than in your imagination:

health care – why can’t liberals provide their own? I live in Texas. Liberals do. The uninsured here are about a fourth of the population. You really think a fourth of the population in Texas are liberals and that all of them have no health insurance?

Retirement? Are you implying Social Security is a personal retirement investment scheme?

Send kids to school? One consideration where I decided to move was the quality of the schools.

Now, Ben, that means you also owe cites for your assertions that

1. lefties can’t you provide their own health insurance,

2. lefties don’t invest their own money for retirement,

3. lefties don’t decide where to send their own kids to school

You know, Ben, you can save us all a lot of time if you’d simply state “the source it my imagination!!!”

Unless, of course, you prefer to state “Kamchak’s Corollary.”

Heck, Ben Shockley, you can even abbreviate it “KC” and we’ll know what you mean.

Especially if you abbreviate it “KC by BS”

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:27 am

“Ben-why the continual hating on Dragoncon?”

Makes as much sense as hating on peopl who don’t want government running their lives.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:27 am

DAMN!!!! I didn’t make Ben’s list

(note to self: must … try … harder)

Brosephus™ (B) - Follower of SfBA

July 12th, 2012
10:27 am

Why even engage in conversation with the Ben Shockley troll?

You ever see a cat play with a ball of yarn or a mouse? Sometimes it’s just fun. :)

Although I do understand your point, and I’ll cease with chumming the water under the bridge.

Steve

July 12th, 2012
10:28 am

I’m still trying to figure out how government is running my life…

Keep Up the Good Fight!

July 12th, 2012
10:28 am

Steve is rising on the charts like a bullet. At #3 but shooting for the #1 spot with a new hit “You’re too foolish for me”

Steve

July 12th, 2012
10:29 am

It is fun to play with the trolls, but it just takes the thread completely off topic and distracts from Jay’s message.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:29 am

“Especially if you abbreviate it “KC by BS””

damn.

I mean.

just.

damn.

Paul … saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaLUTE!!! for your entire 10:27

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:29 am

Paul, if you can do all that, why vote for the party that says you can’t?

Think that over while I go get a Coke, and get back to us when/if you can come up with a reason.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:29 am

“I’m still trying to figure out how government is running my life…”

seee???? that’s JUST how canny it is … it’s running your life and you don’t even know it!!!

Brosephus™ (B) - Follower of SfBA

July 12th, 2012
10:30 am

USinner

I think you just got Avis’d. We’re #2-We try harder!

:lol: :lol:

http://onproductmanagement.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/avis1.gif?513254

East Lake Ira

July 12th, 2012
10:30 am

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:31 am

“why vote for the party that says you can’t?”

yay!!!!

please, tell me EXACTLY where the Dem party has said that we can’t decide where to move for schools … or CAN’T buy health insurance …

show your work.

josef

July 12th, 2012
10:31 am

My, my, but hasn’t the morning crew been busy little beavers today…

On topic (I know, I’m late and nobody really cares what I have to say about it and if they do, we ARE in trouble) but: how significant is Venezuela? Well, it didn’t take anytime at all for us to leave that matter and go on to other things. No need to make a big issue of it in the campaign since it will probably draw a yawn there, too.

The Imam’s got it right. Chavez is a tin horn dictator from another generation, His sole “importance” on the world stage is as a nettle to the US and he can’t even get a good itch going there. Domestically, he’s a tragedy for the Venezuelans. The good news there is that try as he might, he’s not been able to shut up/down the dissenters. He’ll be yesterday’s news soon enough.

Obama’s (Hillary’s and Susan’s) foreign policy? So far, so good. Slow, measured and no great swings one way or the other in our traditional policies. He needs to get his human rights act in gear, imauo, but then, that’s one of my big issues and not his.

the cat

July 12th, 2012
10:31 am

Maybe Ben can explain this:

While Republicans lambast the cost of implementing health care reform, a new report shows that their efforts to repeal the law have come at a major cost to taxpayers — to the tune of nearly $50 million.

Erwin's cat

July 12th, 2012
10:32 am

Bro – “You ever see a cat play with a ball of yarn or a mouse?”

Do I ever talk about what you do behind closed doors? ;)

Welcome to the Occupation

July 12th, 2012
10:32 am

Brosephus: “You ever see a cat play with a ball of yarn or a mouse? Sometimes it’s just fun. ”

If the advice against feeding trolls were followed to the letter, well, this blog would dry up in short order. :)

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:32 am

Bro – I don’t think the words #2 and “try harder” should be in the same sentence … unless fiber is involved

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:32 am

“health care – why can’t liberals provide their own? I live in Texas. Liberals do. The uninsured here are about a fourth of the population. You really think a fourth of the population in Texas are liberals and that all of them have no health insurance?”

No, I’m asserting that it’s liberals who want government to do it for them, Which is a fact.

TaxPayer

July 12th, 2012
10:32 am

TP…I have….you?

Erwin,

You must be referring to your claim of Bain “creating hundreds of thousands of jobs.” :roll: Tell me again how many of those jobs already existed when Bain took over and how many were created during Bain’s involvement and what role Mitt played at Bain during that time. You know, some of that “cheesy” data analysis that you’ve done.

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:33 am

“Retirement? Are you implying Social Security is a personal retirement investment scheme?”

No, I’m asserting that it is a Ponzi scheme, and the people who can’t invest on their own need the rest of us to keep paying in.

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 12th, 2012
10:33 am

Hey ben Shockley. How dumb is Obama?

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:34 am

“Send kids to school? One consideration where I decided to move was the quality of the schools.”

I’m wondering why you libs are opposed to vouchers so people who actually care about their kids and can’t afford to move can get them out of our filthy and miserably failign government schools

Erwin's cat

July 12th, 2012
10:36 am

TP – keep up..I never said “created”..I said employed at a BC company…
I’m sure you’d prefer those 500k people were unemployed so you could hate some more

Aren’t you tired of my leg yet?

Paul

July 12th, 2012
10:36 am

Brosephus

“Am I seeing the makings of the Ben Shockley Exception to the Kamchak Corollary?”

We’ve been there for some time. It’s now devolved to ‘fun time!”

Steve

July 12th, 2012
10:37 am

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:37 am

“Maybe Ben can explain this:

While Republicans lambast the cost of implementing health care reform, a new report shows that their efforts to repeal the law have come at a major cost to taxpayers — to the tune of nearly $50 million.”

Be glad to. Spending $50 million to save billions or trillions is a pretty good investment. PLus, to many people, opposition to Obamacare isn’t all about dollars, It’s about freedom, the Constitution, and opposition to an increasingly powerful and overbearing federal government.

You’re welcome.

East Lake Ira

July 12th, 2012
10:38 am

Ben Shockley seems to not understand that opinions are not facts and that his opinions are in fact wrong.

Ben Shockley appears to spend a lot of time watching the likes of Shemp H. and Teary-eyes Beck taking notes with the firm belief that they speak the truth.

Ben Shockley is thankfully only one vote.

Steve

July 12th, 2012
10:38 am

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:38 am

“Hey ben Shockley. How dumb is Obama?”

Even reading from a teleprompter he said there are 57 states in the union.

TaxPayer

July 12th, 2012
10:38 am

Carbonic Acid, when combined with the proper amount of caramel and corn-derived sugar, makes an excellent paint remover.

JamVet

July 12th, 2012
10:39 am

In terms of American geopolitical policy, every single Republican president and major candidate since Richard Nixon has been a complete idiot.

Worse, some of them, ReAgan and GWB for example, have been utterly inept and deadly to American and allies lives.

Romney is another would be idiot and chickenhawk incompetent.

But he knows the Republican voters well.

BOO!

BE VEWWY, VEWWY AFWAID!!!

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:39 am

Ben – hey, I’m all for school district borders being opened and parents can send their kid to whatever public school they want to send them to (provided they can get them there)

what I’m opposed to is using my tax dollar to support sending your child to a religious school … why??? because of numpties like this:

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/christianity/louisiana-republican-valarie-hodges-supports-state-funds-religious-schools

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:39 am

East Lake Ira seems not to understand the very same thing.

Paul

July 12th, 2012
10:39 am

Ben Shockley 10:19

“Still waiting for documentation that I made anything up. Good luck with that.”

‘The top 1 percent pay about 90 percent of taxes.’

Game, set and match.

‘course, the game was over as soon as you posted that. What’s been since is pure, sophomoric entertainment.

JamVet

July 12th, 2012
10:40 am

Actually, I misspoke in my last.

GHWB was NOT a complete boob in this matter…

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:40 am

Guess Jammypoo didn’t hear about the Berlin Wall oming down.

Recon 0311 2533

July 12th, 2012
10:40 am

“He started two fewer wars than President Bush, ended one and is working on ending the other, and oversaw the ‘getting’ of OBL, which is something President Bush couldn’t do.”

Joe, absolute bull defecation. He claimed throughout his campaign that Afghanistan was the war to win and that Iraq was a mistake. His commanding general in Afghanistan requests the combat personnel and supporting arms to conduct a similar surge that worked in Iraq during the Bush administration. Obama sits on that request for several months and then approves a scaled down version along with his bone headed announcement of a troop draw down and withdrawal timetable. Now the war that Obama stated was the war to win is instead the one we’re losing. As for Iraq the war that Obama deemed to be a mistake is now free of a ruthless dictator who could have become even a greater threat to the region as well as to our own national security. Iraq today is far more stable than Afghanistan. Now for OBL the Intel for his termination was gathered long before Obama set foot in the White House and if rumored reports are true he had to be dragged kicking and screaming to authorizing the operation. Shortly after the successful SEAL TEAM operation the leaking White House leaks sensitive information that puts our SOCOM units at risk for the sole purpose of making this presidential failure look like a hero to gullible voters. You say you like facts, well now you have some.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:40 am

“Even reading from a teleprompter … ”

dude.

seriously???

the teleprompter???

that’s the best you got???

JamVet

July 12th, 2012
10:41 am

Mental Ben is back??

Is he still averring that heathen is a liberal?

Clueless with a capital C…

Madmax

July 12th, 2012
10:41 am

Steve – I looked at the alternative. Four more years of a ruderless ship with a constant theme of class warfare or someone who’s walked into difficult situattions and has managed to turn them around. Yes – and don’t give me the crap about outsourcing. In most situations, outsourcing is done to keep and or make the company competitive. The result may be that you have to outsource 100 jobs to keep 500 jobs. When the alternatve is to lose all 600, what choice do you really have? Business is not inherently an altruistic animal. It is here to generate a profit and there is nothing wrong with that. If it cannot generate a profit here, them it will go where it can with a much larger loss to the workforce. Bain’s role was to make these companies more competitive and at that they succeeded. While I do not like the fact that outsourcing occurred, I was not evaluating the facts, but if they led me to the conclusion that the only way to turn the company around was through outsourcing, then I would have to go in that direction and I appl;aud the man for what he did. Maybe he can bring some of those “how do we turn it around” attitudes and policies to the g’vt and make some progress. God nows we have been in a rut for way too long.

East Lake Ira

July 12th, 2012
10:41 am

TaxPayer

July 12th, 2012
10:38 am

You are referring to that nasty substance named Pepsi, right? Right?!

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

July 12th, 2012
10:41 am

USinUK, Bro’…

Don’t worry…I hear ol’ Ben is on President Obama’s list…you know the one… ;)

TaxPayer

July 12th, 2012
10:41 am

Come on, Erwin. Give me a little bit to work with here. I mean, it’s only been what now, afew minutes, since you claimed to have done some “analysis” of those Bain jobs.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:42 am

“Guess Jammypoo didn’t hear about the Berlin Wall oming down.”

:lol:

cuz unca ronnie huffed … and he puffed … and he BLOOOOOOOOOOWED the wall down!!!

St Simons

July 12th, 2012
10:42 am

[in scratchy radio voice]
‘well it looks like we got two bogeys, in what looks like japanese zeros
with the cockpits locked from the outside, circling ovah the
USS Obama Mammmba aircraft carrier’

be careful, that’s an unhinged, desperate enemy out there.

Joe Hussein Mama

July 12th, 2012
10:42 am

B. Shockley — “Congratulations JHM…you don’t even understand your own post.”

Nope. You’ve been PWNED, troll.

carlosgvv

July 12th, 2012
10:42 am

Ben Shockley

I hear the school bell ringing!! Recess is over. Time for you to go back into your 8th grade class at The Christian Academy.

Don’t forget today’s assigment. It’s “how I know Obama is a Black Socialist Communist Muslim non-American out to destroy America”.
Extra credit will be given if you claim God told you to hate Obama.

Off you go now. Theres a good boy.

TaxPayer

July 12th, 2012
10:42 am

You are referring to that nasty substance named Pepsi, right? Right?!

Oh No! Not Pepsi. The sweetener concentration is much too high.

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:43 am

“what I’m opposed to is using my tax dollar to support sending your child to a religious school … why??? because of numpties like this:”

And I’m opposed to using MY tax dollars for public schools where no mention of the word “God” is allowed.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

July 12th, 2012
10:44 am

When did Mitt Romney leave Bain Capital?

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee has said that he left the private equity firm in 1999, but new reports indicate that he may have stayed on until 2002.

The Boston Globe reported Thursday on SEC filings dated after February 1999 that state that Romney is the firm’s “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.” A 2003 Massachusetts disclosure form says that he owned 100 percent of the company in 2002, and forms indicate that he earned $100,000 as an “executive” in 2001 and 2002, apart from investments.

The date Romney left the company is important, since he cites it to rebut the charge that Bain invested in firms that outsourced jobs.

“Governor Romney left Bain to lead the Salt Lake City Olympics in February 1999,” reads the campaign’s response to a recent Washington Post story that it unsuccessfully tried to retract.

The Obama campaign has aired ads based on the story, which reported that Bain invested in companies that sent jobs to countries like China and India. The Romney campaign responded that no jobs were moved offshore under his tenure. More recently, Mother Jones’ David Corn reported that Bain invested in a Chinese company before even the campaign says Romney left.

Factcheck.org, which disputed the truthfulness of the Post report and accepted that Romney left the firm in 1999, wrote that were that not the case, Romney “would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999.”

The SEC filings listed in the Globe article were first flagged in a letter the Obama campaign sent to Factcheck.org, which nevertheless concluded that Romney never returned to active management in the company after 1999, instead shifting his focus to the 2002 Winter Olympics. But in separate SEC filings from 2000 and 2001, Romney listed his “principal occupation” as “Managing Director of Bain Capital, Inc.,” and a 2003 state financial disclosure form said he owned 100 percent of the firm in 2002.

Romney lied! :lol: In my experience, SEC filings are poured over by many before being filed and each word is considered carefully.

TaxPayer

July 12th, 2012
10:44 am

Time for you to go back into your 8th grade class at The Christian Academy.

Is that where they teach that course on Compassionate Conservatism.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

July 12th, 2012
10:44 am

Well, I’ve been working so hard it’s only my 4th break of the morning.

Anyhow, I’ll stand by what Romney says. America is in the doldrums, what with the war ended in Iraq and winding down in Afghanistan. What we need is another war to bring out the Patriotism in all of us and send sales of them magnetic ribbons thru the roof. War with some little country that ain’t too strong and won’t give us a bunch of trouble. And Venezuela fits the bill perfect. Only let’s wait till a Republican is in the White House. It don’t make alot of sense to have Americans rallying around a librul Democrat President. I want a Republican President standing in front of a Citgo station with a megaphone and telling everybody we’re going to kick some butt. It’ll make us all feel good.

Besides, it’ll pay for itself when we take over all that oil from Venezuela. And this time, let’s make sure we don’t bypass all the ammo dumps when our troops move thru the country. No sense in leaving stuff those people can use to build bombs and kill our troops.

Have a good Thursday everybody.

JamVet

July 12th, 2012
10:45 am

Mental is blubbering about teleprompters???

What a Fox News guppy…

JamVet
July 11th, 2012
6:09 pm

There’s one reason above all others that President Obama uses a teleprompter in delivering most of his speeches: he’s good at it.

Ronald Reagan was the same way. He was more at ease in reading his speech off the dual screens of a teleprompter than looking up and down at a speech text on his lectern

Not so, George W. Bush. He often got that nervous, deer-in-the-headlights look when giving an address from a teleprompter. He would seem stiff and ill-at-ease. He did not convey a sense of understanding.

“He preferred using large index cards,” said his one-time White House Press Secretary Ari Fleisher, “plus I think he was just more comfortable with the cards.”

It’s definitely a finely honed skill to deliver a speech from a teleprompter (seen in the top right corner of the above picture from Mr. Obama’s speech today in Columbus, Ohio). It takes as much if not more focus or concentration than reading a paper copy.

LOL at George…

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:45 am

“Nope. You’ve been PWNED, troll.”

LMAO. What color is the sky in your world?

Paul

July 12th, 2012
10:45 am

USinUK

;-)

If you missed it earlier, that recipe was a wonderful email to wake up to -

josef

July 12th, 2012
10:46 am

Talking sh*t…even the apostle Paul found it fit. In his letter to the Phillipians he said:

“Whatever is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish that I may gain Christ…”
–Phillipians 3:8, NIV

The problem here is that the translation of the Greek “skybalon” as “rubbish,” just ain’t quite right. The word Paul used was quite vulgar and the era’s equivalent of our word “sh*t” in it’s contemporary usage as employed here on the blog.

Erwin's cat

July 12th, 2012
10:46 am

TP – “Come on, Erwin. Give me a little bit to work with here. I mean, it’s only been what now, afew minutes, since you claimed to have done some “analysis” of those Bain jobs.”

I gave some numbers yesterday…you must have missed it while being distracted by my leg

Ben Shockley

July 12th, 2012
10:47 am

carlosgvv

Quik Trip takes food stamps now. Go on down there and get yourself some cigs and a case of malt liquor.

Thomas

July 12th, 2012
10:47 am

Oh the outrage of these young capitalist- uh I mean old big liberal funders-

I am confused- outrage from the libs over putzy Facebook guy but I suppose this is ok?

Wealthy socialite and Grammy-nominated songwriter Denise Rich has renounced her U.S. citizenship and resides in London, her spokeswoman Judy Smith said Tuesday.

Rich’s maiden name, Eisenberg, appeared on April 30 in the Federal Registrar’s Quarterly Publication of Individuals Who Have Chosen To Expatriate, though she left in November 2011.
By handing in her American passport, tax lawyers say she is able to legally avoid paying significant taxes on her estate.

Rich, 68, is the ex-wife of billionaire commodities trader Marc Rich, who was pardoned in 2001 by then-president Bill Clinton for oil profiteering and tax evasion after he fled to Switzerland. The pardon was considered controversial because of Denise Rich’s financial contributions to the Democratic Party and to the Clinton Library.

As of 2001, Denise Rich had made more than $1.3 million in political contributions to the Democratic Party since 1993, including $70,000 to Hillary Clinton’s Senate campaign and $450,000 to the Clinton presidential library in Arkansas.

Investigators told CNN at the time that there were Secret Service logs showing that Rich went to the White House the last night of Bill Clinton’s presidency.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:47 am

“And I’m opposed to using MY tax dollars for public schools where no mention of the word “God” is allowed.”

:lol:

you mean like in the pledge?

you mean like letting kids have a moment of silence?

you mean like letting kids do things like “gather round the flagpole” and have prayer in the morning before school?

you mean like letting kids have religious clubs meet in school???

… speaking of numpties …

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 12th, 2012
10:47 am

Ben 10:38 :)

Obama was hoping a beer summit with Ahmadinejad would solve everything

Apparently not

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:48 am

Paul – 10:45 – yay!!! you’ll have to let me know how it goes when you make it!!

JamVet

July 12th, 2012
10:48 am

Ex-pat, informed, even moderately intelligent people know that Reagan was a DISASTER in terms of American foreign policy.

Across the globe.

Worse, he and Ollie proved just how disgraceful that entire administration was…

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 12th, 2012
10:49 am

Ben- how many Stupid promises has Obama made?

East Lake Ira

July 12th, 2012
10:50 am

“And I’m opposed to using MY tax dollars for public schools where no mention of the word “God” is allowed.”

Show me where the public schools you help fund do not allow students or teachers are not allowed to mention the word “God.”

Do it Ben or STFU.

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 12th, 2012
10:50 am

Isn’t guantanamo supposed to be closed by now? :)

Paul

July 12th, 2012
10:51 am

Morning, josef!

Some of us do look forward to your take on Jay’s posts.

If you read a little further on, you’ll see Venezuela is just one more example of Obama’s failed foreign policy, of how he got people killed, etc etc etc….

Brosephus™

July 12th, 2012
10:51 am

EC

Thanks for making me choke on my chicken sandwich. A word of advice to bloggers everywhere, don’t laugh while you have a mouth full of lunch. One would think I would know better considering my adventures with liquids on this blog. :lol:

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Occupation

We’d probably see a few tumbleweeds if we quit feeding the trolls. :lol:

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:51 am

“Isn’t guantanamo supposed to be closed by now?”

gosh.

so what is it???

either Obama CAN or he CAN’T override congress … make up your mind …

TaxPayer

July 12th, 2012
10:52 am

I gave some numbers yesterday…you must have missed it while being distracted by my leg

I know you pulled a number out and called it analysis, Erwin. I didn’t miss it.

Williebkind

July 12th, 2012
10:53 am

Hey its the economy stupid! Now that should tell you Obama is stupid.

Goldie

July 12th, 2012
10:53 am

Mitt Romney = same failed Bush policies of yesteryear, both economically and foreign policy-wise!

Obama/Biden 2012! :)

Peadawg

July 12th, 2012
10:54 am

“Romney lied!”

Again? Damn, Romney’s lied and flipped and flopped in just the past year almost as much as Obama has in his 4.

Thomas

July 12th, 2012
10:54 am

Two Georgia lawmakers in positions of power over state banking policy now share the same distinction — seats on the boards of failed banks

Jay- pls drill down on who what when where on local stories such as this.

Your national and global commentary is like talking to my mom about the Braves game.

Recon 0311 2533

July 12th, 2012
10:54 am

If the libs aren’t defending failures of the current administration by fact avoidance, they’re trying to rewrite the history of prior successful administrations like Ronald Reagan’s. Just another day on Jay’s blog a home for left wing delusional thinkers.

Williebkind

July 12th, 2012
10:54 am

“either Obama CAN or he CAN’T override congress … make up your mind ”

I have, he is a liar!

TaxPayer

July 12th, 2012
10:54 am

And Erwin, if you’d shave those things every once in a while perhaps they would not pose such a distraction on the blog as you claim.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:55 am

geez … willieb is drinking before lunch again …

Paul

July 12th, 2012
10:55 am

Brosephus

“don’t laugh while you have a mouth full of lunch.

Especially since Bosch abandoned us and absconded with all the screen cleaner…..

Williebkind

July 12th, 2012
10:56 am

Goldie

July 12th, 2012
10:53 am
Have you been reading the news lately? Obama is using Bush’s policies.

East Lake Ira

July 12th, 2012
10:56 am

Yet another lie.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78438.html

When will Mitt come clean?

Why does he lie about everything with such ease??

Joe Hussein Mama

July 12th, 2012
10:57 am

Recon — “Joe, absolute bull defecation.”

Rejected. It’s absolutely true.

“He claimed throughout his campaign that Afghanistan was the war to win and that Iraq was a mistake.”

Absolutely true and 100% correct. OBL was in Afghanistan right after 9/11, and that’s where WE should have been. Instead, we wasted time, money, lives and national will screwing around in Iraq, where that ugly f*cker Saddam Hussein was making faces at us from inside his cage, but otherwise was no fragging threat to us Al-Qaeda didn’t show up in Iraq until AFTER we did. And now we’re gone, and guess who’s there? AQ and Iran.

“His commanding general in Afghanistan requests the combat personnel and supporting arms to conduct a similar surge that worked in Iraq during the Bush administration.”

The fact that the surge was successful in Iraq does not in any way justify the Iraq invasion.

“Obama sits on that request for several months and then approves a scaled down version along with his bone headed announcement of a troop draw down and withdrawal timetable.”

I see. Are you saying that invading the wrong country (Iraq) was the right thing to do, but leaving a country where the people and government are tired of us and want us to leave is somehow wrong? Is that what you’re saying?

“Now the war that Obama stated was the war to win is instead the one we’re losing.”

Maybe if President Bush hadn’t been d*cking around with Iraq, we could have gone into Afghanistan in force, knocked down AQ and gotten OBL during Bush’s term. Wouldn’t you rather have had that happen, than have it happen the way it has?

“As for Iraq the war that Obama deemed to be a mistake is now free of a ruthless dictator who could have become even a greater threat to the region as well as to our own national security.”

If knocking over dictators and keeping them from getting WMD is now our job, then I need to point out to you that President Bush failed miserably in North Korea. There’s a WORSE dictator there who now has WMD. Great job, President Bush. :roll:

“Iraq today is far more stable than Afghanistan.”

Be sure to show us where that’s a Constitutional function of our government, invading nations because ‘they tried to kill my daddy.’

“Now for OBL the Intel for his termination was gathered long before Obama set foot in the White House and if rumored reports are true he had to be dragged kicking and screaming to authorizing the operation.”

if rumored reports are true, President Bush *called off* an assault that would have taken OBL out at Tora Bora.

“Shortly after the successful SEAL TEAM operation the leaking White House leaks sensitive information that puts our SOCOM units at risk for the sole purpose of making this presidential failure look like a hero to gullible voters. You say you like facts, well now you have some.”

Yep. Obama got him, Bush didn’t. Thanks for the assist! :D

josef

July 12th, 2012
10:57 am

USinUK

I didn’t make the A list either…shoot…

BENJI

Where in my contract or guidelines does it say I can’t use the word G-d? Jeeze, Mec, my class roster includes Jesus and Mohammad!

PAUL
Yeah, but you’re EOI director and preparing your quarterly report. You have to read them! :-)

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
10:57 am

“Especially since Bosch abandoned us and absconded with all the screen cleaner…..”

stop. I’m still in mourning … I miss my Bosch

Now, HE would have appreciated the pic that I posted on FB this morning (Paul, did you see??)

Williebkind

July 12th, 2012
10:57 am

“geez … willieb is drinking before lunch again …”

And…….That is a way to deal with the delusional progressives.