Telling friend from foe, and foe from annoyance

Two contrasting quotes from yesterday’s news cycle, then three observations:

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“… overall my sense is that what (Hugo) Chavez has done over the last several years has not had a serious national security impact on us. We have to be vigilant. My main concern when it comes to Venezuela is having the Venezuelan people have a voice in their affairs, and that you end up ultimately having fair and free elections, which we don’t always see.”

– President Obama

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“This is a stunning and shocking comment by the president. It is disturbing to see him downplaying the threat posed to U.S. interests by a regime that openly wishes us ill. Hugo Chavez has provided safe haven to drug kingpins, encouraged regional terrorist organizations that threaten our allies like Colombia, has strengthened military ties with Iran and helped it evade sanctions, and has allowed a Hezbollah presence within his country’s borders.”

– Mitt Romney

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My conclusions?

1.) It takes disturbingly little to “shock and stun” Mitt Romney. What would he do if something truly serious happened? Keel over in a faint?

2.) We are the United States, with the world’s largest economy — by a lot — and the world’s largest military — by a lot, lot more. Chavez is a cancer-ridden tinpot dictator of a country with an economy the size of Maryland’s and a defense budget that’s 0.45 percent of the Pentagon budget. His entire schtick is to puff himself up by pretending that he poses some threat to the mighty United States, and Romney has given him exactly what he wants.

3.) According to Romney, Russia “is, without question, our number one geopolitical foe,” while “the greatest threat that the world faces is a nuclear Iran.” He says that “unless China changes its ways, on Day One of my presidency I will designate it a currency manipulator and take appropriate counteraction” and he now wants to treat little Venezuela as a serious threat to our national security. He also promises that as president, he “will commit to eliminating North Korea’s nuclear weapons and its nuclear-weapons infrastructure.”

A chapter heading from Mitt Romney's statement of foreign policy, titled "An American Century".

A chapter heading from Mitt Romney's statement of foreign policy, titled "An American Century".

We have serious differences with each of those countries, which pose challenges of varying sorts to American interests. Romney seems intent on handling all of them with the same overwrought approach. In addition, the foreign policy team that he has selected is dominated by those who advised President George W. Bush in his first term, more specifically by members of the Cheney faction that Bush gradually moved aside, if a little too late.

Foreign policy isn’t going to get a lot of attention in this race, but as we’ve learned the hard way, a single unexpected event can suddenly make it the most important item on the national agenda. To my mind, Obama has provided a calm, steady hand in foreign affairs; there is every sign that Romney would provide leadership of a different sort.

– Jay Bookman

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carlosgvv

July 12th, 2012
7:54 am

Romney is showing he will pledge total allegiance to the Military-Industrial Complex. There is no suprise whatsover in this as the Republican Party is completely dependent on Big Business for its funding.

If you like us being in Iraq and Afghanista, vote for Romney and be certain that WARS WARS WARS will be the highlight of his administration.

Skip

July 12th, 2012
7:57 am

I’m supposed to leave for work but I’m too scared to go outside.

Fly-On-The-Wall

July 12th, 2012
7:57 am

This is the thing that the MSM isn’t reporting, the fact that much of GWB’s foreign policy people are working for Romney. If this would get more news cycles I think people would wake up and say we’ve tried this before and it failed on a massive scale.

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
7:57 am

Jay, that first point, I’m sure you meant to post “It is disturbingly easy to…”

And yes, it is. (not that I think he’s actually shocked and stunned. He’s just assuming that swing voters are even dumber than they actually are.)

Paul

July 12th, 2012
7:57 am

Let’s see, the take of a guy who, every morning, sits through national security briefings, who saw threats to America’s security and implemented round-the-clock drone strikes to kill them…

or a guy who gets his world view from discredited ideologues?

Whom should I believe?

Decisions, decisions….

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

July 12th, 2012
7:58 am

I was going to say that it’s just the Republican way. Treat everything like a threat and make America fear it. To them, to take the stand of moderate, rational intercourse to a problem, without the flag waving or sword rattling, is just an act of cowardice.

But…what would you expect from a Party that has a high school bully as their..er…man?

Once again I quote: “Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent”.

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
7:58 am

If this would get more news cycles I think people would wake up and say we’ve tried this before and it failed on a massive scale.

whereas I’m fine with this becoming more of a story in the fall, myself, after Mitt’s tried and failed to get the stench of Bain washed off.

Peadawg

July 12th, 2012
7:59 am

Romney is sounding a little scary.

But we all know whatever Flip Romney says has to be taken w/ a grain of salt. Who the hell knows what this guy will do once in office and if he’s saying these things to appear like a far right-wing conservative.

Paul

July 12th, 2012
8:00 am

Note to Mitt: you don’t have to respond to every little thing the President says. You’ve already highlighted enough examples. If you try doing it with everything, you sound predictably desperate.

Fly-On-The-Wall

July 12th, 2012
8:01 am

What I don’t understand is on one hand the conservatives will say, over and over, that we should not be the police of the world. Let everyone else pay for that but they will take a stance like Romney (really Cheney and the neo-cons) and want to attack any country that they deem a threat.

So which is it going to be? Will the real Republican Party please stand up.

nelsonh

July 12th, 2012
8:03 am

Mitt took the abuse of the folks at the NAACP convention with outstanding character. Knowing he was going into hostile territory Mitt “stood his ground” for the American ideal of self reliance, character and hard work, qualities lacking in so many today. It was the color of what he said as opposed to the words themselves. A true American, Mitt is, of uncommon valor and courage, a self made man who asked for nothing more than the opportunity to prove himself. The choice has never been clearer, do you want 4 more years of deficit spending that is nearly comprehensible or do you want a responsible hard driving man that can bring this great country together? Of the people,by the people,for the people

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:04 am

From the “awww, isn’t that sweet?” files.

Though Mr. Romney rarely mentions Mr. Cheney on the campaign trail, he did bring him up at a town hall in September, recalling having watched the former vice president field a variety of questions during an interview on C-Span he had seen.

“And I listened to him speak and said whether you agree or disagree with him, this is a man of wisdom and judgment, and he could have been president of the United States,” Mr. Romney said. “That’s the kind of person I’d like to have — a person of wisdom and judgment.”

The two men will probably have some time on Thursday for a private meeting.

Some precious alone-time, that’s so hard to find in these rough-and-tumble, trying-to-have-it-all work and play schedules.

Recon 0311 2533

July 12th, 2012
8:05 am

“{Obama has provided a calm, steady hand in foreign affairs;”

The above has to be the joke of today. Obama has provided a naive and unsteady hand in foreign affairs.

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:05 am

the abuse of the folks at the NAACP convention

like I said (and so did Nancy Pelosi, in essence) — Mitt wasn’t speaking to black Americans by addressing the NAACP, he was shoring up his White Power base.

Fly-On-The-Wall

July 12th, 2012
8:06 am

Here’s another thought, when GWB was (s)elected in 2000 I wasn’t too worried about him. I was more concerned with a Republican Congress that now could do anything they wanted. If Romney is elected who is to say he’ll have any more backbone than GWB had?

I want to mention one other thought about this same topic, in the GWB Presidency the Republicans were not the spend thrifts they claimed to be. But now they want to go in exactly the opposite direction. The problem I see is that the first time they went overboard with spending and now for this round they want to go overboard with cutting. Don’t they realize that either extreme is just as bad?

TaxPayer

July 12th, 2012
8:06 am

I thought Bill Kristol was Mitt’s foreign policy braintrust.

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:06 am

Obama has provided a naive and unsteady hand in foreign affairs.

Tell that to guys who’ve moved from the kill list to the killed list.

Fly-On-The-Wall

July 12th, 2012
8:07 am

Recon,

Care to site any real evidence of your claim? Fox, Drudge, and Rush are not considered credible sites for you evidence.

Paul

July 12th, 2012
8:08 am

nelsonh

“Mitt took the abuse of the folks at the NAACP convention with outstanding character.”

What abuse?

The standing ovation at the conclusion?

Did you get a thank-you card from the Bumper Sticker Slogan Writers of America?

barking frog

July 12th, 2012
8:09 am

Romney is a candidate for
President. They often
promise things they either
can’t or won’t do if elected.
Government is based on
fear and protection.

Fly-On-The-Wall

July 12th, 2012
8:09 am

nelsonh – you are delusional or did you miss the times that Mitt had applause? He did this on purpose, he wanted this reaction so he could then try to discredit the African-Americans and by that also the President.

TiredOfIt

July 12th, 2012
8:09 am

” A true American, Mitt is, of uncommon valor and courage, a self made man who asked for nothing more than the opportunity to prove himself. ”

It’s a little early for Jack Daniels isn’t it?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

July 12th, 2012
8:12 am

Why I heard Mitt exclaim that Canada is a real threat to our national security.

Ayn Rant

July 12th, 2012
8:12 am

Romney is hot air filling a suit, shirt and tie!

Jay

July 12th, 2012
8:14 am

Ah, the “Mitt Romney standing up to black people” meme is in full force already ….

I bet HE’D know how to handle those New Black Panthers!

Paul

July 12th, 2012
8:14 am

TiredOfIt

Beats Hannity at 8am, though -

Maximum

July 12th, 2012
8:14 am

Nelsonh:
Romney is a self-made man?
What planet are you from? Certainly not Earth …

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:14 am

It’s a little early for Jack Daniels isn’t it?

yeah, the “self made” business is a hoot. Mitt didn’t get any handouts from his CEO and Governor dad, nope. He just got priceless business contacts, funding for his education and a couple of years’ ministry in France.

but no handouts.

BlahBlahBlah

July 12th, 2012
8:15 am

Mitt Romney is a multifaceted disaster of a candidate.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

July 12th, 2012
8:15 am

Mitt is showing real courage by speaking to the NAACP? What is next “courage by appearing on Toddlers and Tiaras”? Maybe an appearance to explain Shamus to PETA–that would be more courageous. :lol:

Thomas

July 12th, 2012
8:15 am

Been saying the below for two years now as the gov’t is now better managing its finances than Imelda Marcos in a shoe store. With the printing press the gov’t will gladly waste trillions invading the mideast or starting green energy companies.

Jay- I know it is coming- please go ahead and write about the need for QEIII as the Pres will need to keep this 4 year drunk fest going.

“The Federal Reserve’s massive stimulus program had little impact on the U.S. economy besides weakening the dollar and helping U.S. exports, Federal Reserve Governor Alan Greenspan told CNBC Thursday.

In a blunt critique of his successor, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, Greenspan said the $2 trillion in quantative easing over the past two years had done little to loosen credit and boost the economy.
“There is no evidence that huge inflow of money into the system basically worked,” Greenspan said in a live interview.

“It obviously had some effect on the exchange rate and the exchange rate was a critical issue in export expansion,” he said. “Aside from that, I am ill-aware of anything that really worked. Not only QE2 but QE1.”

Recon 0311 2533

July 12th, 2012
8:16 am

“Tell that to guys who’ve moved from the kill list to the killed list.”

Tell that to our young people in the military who’re on the KIA list because of an inept CnC.

Joe The Plumber Too

July 12th, 2012
8:17 am

So now SFD speaks for Black Americans……., it is wonderful we have such a great wordsmith looking out for our interests and letting us know what is best for us. Thank you SFD.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
8:17 am

Does this REALLY surprise you, Jay???

The GOP just luuuuuuuuuz to peddle fear … fear of other countries, fear of ideas, fear of anyone / anything that’s different.

Peadawg

July 12th, 2012
8:18 am

“Tell that to our young people in the military who’re on the KIA list because of an inept CnC.”

Bush or Obama?

Adam

July 12th, 2012
8:18 am

Romney doesn’t know a thing about how to run a country. He certainly knows how to be a bully though, as evidenced over his whole life, including what he did at Bain to many companies. Sure, he made a few friends (aka successful businesses) but he also bullied a lot of other companies into the ground. If corporations are people, do they ALSO have to be thrown on the ground and have their hair cut?

MiltonMan

July 12th, 2012
8:18 am

Yes that Chavez is one swell guy:

(1) Placed limitations on the breand and butter of Jay – limits radio, Newspaper & TV broadcasts.
(2) Crime has doubled since the socialist has taken over
(3) Great, great buddies with the Iranians
(4) Called Syrian president Assad a good guy

What do you expect? Obama loves him because he is a socialist

Jay when you state “…and the world’s largest military — by a lot, lot more.” That is not entirely true; maybe in terms of $$$ spent but in terms in personnel that is not true. North Korea, South Korea & China among others have a larger military than the US.

barking frog

July 12th, 2012
8:18 am

Mitt is hunting votes and
he probably killed a few.

Atlas Shrugging

July 12th, 2012
8:19 am

I don’t understand this blog, ever since the Obomonation created world peace and healed the nation I feel perfectly safe. It’s such a pleasure to live in a world where a Nobel Peace Prize winner/community organizer has eliminated strife, envy, and class warfare. Just by reading Jay’s daily blog you can see the great healer at work making us one people with love in our hearts for all mankind.

MiltonMan

July 12th, 2012
8:19 am

“Romney doesn’t know a thing about how to run a country.”

Neither does Obama.

MountainMan

July 12th, 2012
8:19 am

Jay,

Nothing Obama does or says shocks or stuns you. Is all good in your book(man).

ty webb

July 12th, 2012
8:20 am

“My conclusions?”

Vote for Obama!

Recon 0311 2533

July 12th, 2012
8:20 am

Fly-on-the wall says…Care to site any real evidence of your claim?

The evidence is clear to anyone who looks. If you’ve been blinded by your refusal to look, I can’t help you.

Paul

July 12th, 2012
8:21 am

Recon

“Tell that to our young people in the military who’re on the KIA list because of an inept CnC.”

Okay, I’ll bite.

Just what are you talking about this morning?

Seems like some of our Vietnam-era posters have confused a ‘free fire zone’ with a ‘fact-free zone.’

godless heathen

July 12th, 2012
8:21 am

Dick “Big Time” Cheney. A great American.

Peadawg

July 12th, 2012
8:21 am

““Romney doesn’t know a thing about how to run a country.”

Neither does Obama.”

So MiltonMan, if neither know a thing about how to run a country (which you just conceded) who are you voting for?

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:21 am

Tell that to our young people in the military who’re on the KIA list

And do tell–why are they on that KIA list, Del? How did they wind up being part of an occupying force?

Anything to do with Mitt’s bestest foreign policy advisor, Dick Cheney?

Adam

July 12th, 2012
8:22 am

The spin machine turned a really bad press event for Romney at the NAACP convention into a “Whitey is Strong” bit of nonsense, huh?

Jay

July 12th, 2012
8:23 am

North Korea, South Korea & China among others have a larger military than the US.

Oh please, Milton. Pit all three of them at once against the United States — even our close ally South Korea — and who are you going to bet on? You’re being silly.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

July 12th, 2012
8:23 am

From The American Conservative

Jonathan Bernstein comments on what he calls Romney’s “astounding exaggeration on Iran”:

Which raises two broader points. One is that there really does seem to be a divide within the Republican Party between a more cautious and traditional foreign policy approach, and the kind of of bellicose and grandiose national security thinking that still, apparently, sees the Iraq War as a great success. Which side is Romney with? That’s a good question for the next reporter who gets a chance to sit down with him.

It is a good question, but Romney’s answer on Iran would already give us a good idea of how he would respond. Let’s not forget that Romney’s expression of his complete and lack of respect for the Constitution and representative government came in response to a question about Bill Kristol’s support for a Congressional authorization for the use of force against Iran. Romney has adopted a position on executive power and military action that distinguishes him as more hawkish and less restrained than Bill Kristol. That being the case, is there really any doubt at this point about which side Romney takes in the intra-party policy debate?

Bernstein is partly right that Romney has been able to keep his positions vague, but there have been several occasions when he has stated with startling clarity exactly what he intends to do (or not do). He will wreck the relationship with Russia, he won’t negotiate with the Taliban, and he will be more likely to order an attack on Iran (and he believes he can do this on his own authority). The trouble is that Romney makes statements that seem so far removed from reality that journalists and pundits usually just shrug their shoulders and dismiss it as campaign hyperbole. They say to themselves, “No one could be foolish enough to do what he says he’ll do!” Romney has been able to brush off a series of foreign policy blunders that would normally be considered major liabilities if they had been made by someone who was supposed to know what he was talking about. Romney’s inexperience and incompetence on foreign policy have become very effective political shields.

Paul

July 12th, 2012
8:23 am

Recon 8:20

Kanchak’s Corollary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

took only about a half hour this morning!

Adam

July 12th, 2012
8:24 am

Yes that Chavez is one swell guy:

Your binary mind is…. well, stupid.

Somehow “Chavez is not a threat” must be turned into “Chavez is awesome and our friend.” What a load of bullsh*t.

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:24 am

Yes that Chavez is one swell guy

Who here is arguing that he is?

So now SFD speaks for Black Americans…

when did I do that, or claim to do that?

MiltonMan

July 12th, 2012
8:24 am

“The GOP just luuuuuuuuuz to peddle fear … fear of other countries, fear of ideas, fear of anyone / anything that’s different”

…and the libs flying drones over farmers to monitor fecal material, forcing us to have “free” healthcare, bailing out bums who cannot afford a house, etc., etc. is such a better alternative???

I guess Obama’s pledge to seek out Iran and have talks/negotiations has worked out so well.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
8:24 am

ohfercryingoutloud MiltonMan, I hope you’re on high blood pressure tablets – all this poutrage can’t be good for you … saying someone is not a threat to the country is NOT the same as praising him.

Joseph

July 12th, 2012
8:25 am

As I’ve always stated. Its best to be feared than laughed at. And that’s what we have now with Oblama… Bowing and apologizing to world leaders is not what I call leadership and I think the American people see it… Its just simply not the issue…

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
8:25 am

“Somehow “Chavez is not a threat” must be turned into “Chavez is awesome and our friend.” What a load of bullsh*t”

word.

ken

July 12th, 2012
8:26 am

Flip a coin.

Adam

July 12th, 2012
8:29 am

Romney’s inexperience and incompetence on foreign policy have become very effective political shields.

THIS.

Obama’s strength and LEADERSHIP on foreign policy (cue the people trying to copy just this part of my post to make a stupid point) is clear:

-Osama bin Laden dead
-Many “leaders” of al Quada, dead.
-Drone wars that we know about thanks to the transparency of this administration, saving American lives while killing many terrorists (I don’t agree with this in concept but let’s face it, this is EXACTLY what Romney/Bush 3.0 would do, only minus the transparency).
-Coalition of nations that got together under Obama’s leadership to put sanctions on Iran and other countries

Etc.

Keep making up a record for Obama guys, it’s working out for you pretty well isn’t it? Obama still above 60% probability of winning re-election.

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:30 am

As I’ve always stated. Its best to be feared than laughed at.

well, it must doubly suck to be you, then.

Recon 0311 2533

July 12th, 2012
8:30 am

“Just what are you talking about this morning?”

Paul, I’m talking about a president that’s falsely being lauded as a calm and steady hand in foreign affairs and who has placed our military in Afghanistan at greater risk by his bone headed decisions as CinC.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
8:31 am

dB – 8:30 – :lol:

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

July 12th, 2012
8:32 am

Bowing?

Teleprompter?

That second one is simply priceless…..

Paul

July 12th, 2012
8:32 am

I suppose this was inevitable.

We lost Iraq and Afghanistan as a threat, so we picked China as a threat.

China kinda faded, so we latched onto Iran.

Now that’s faded, too, so we latch onto Venezuela.

Is it just me, or has the quality of the threats to America’s way of life, liberty and standing in the world gone seriously downhill?

That’s gotta be Obama’s fault, too.

Adam

July 12th, 2012
8:33 am

…and the libs flying drones over farmers to monitor fecal material, forcing us to have “free” healthcare,

Look, I think it’s time to get off whatever meds you’re on that are causing these hallucinations. Putting a filter on your browser to block Drudge and major conservative websites, as well as stopping yourself from watching Fox News or listening to any right wing talk radio, may help. Talk to you Doctor if you’re on any other wingnut medications. Reading a book on U.S. History or Science is known to help as well.

Thomas Heyward Jr.

July 12th, 2012
8:34 am

“What good are nuclear weapons if you can’t use them?”
Bill Kristol…………….neocon creep.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
8:34 am

Granny G – but … but … but … I thought Obama was the onliest person who ever used a teleprompter in the history of time … ever …

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:34 am

flying drones over farmers to monitor fecal material

Back in my day, we monitored the fecal material by hand, and we liked it!

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
8:34 am

In fact … weren’t they invented just for him???

MiltonMan

July 12th, 2012
8:34 am

“Keep making up a record for Obama guys, it’s working out for you pretty well isn’t it? Obama still above 60% probability of winning re-election.”

Based upon what exactly??? His 44% approval rating? You libs were so convinced that 2010 would not be a big deal but ended getting shell-lacked.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

July 12th, 2012
8:35 am

President Obama will always try to talk first, as it should be, and will do what is necessary if negotiations don’t work. Libya was a fine example of that. Let NATO lead and offer support.

The GOP, on the other hand, seems to want to attack everyone who doesn’t agree with them. Of course, this way IS the way of non-military men. They have to salve their conscience someway.

I would much rather see America respected rather than feared.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
8:36 am

dB – 8:34 – well, you really had to have a nose for it … but, if you had a good job as fecal monitoring, it really was the business … my uncle, he was #1 in the #2 business … but he was always pooped at the end of the day

Recon 0311 2533

July 12th, 2012
8:36 am

Ah, Paul is so upset that there are people in the country who’re dissatisfied with the poor leadership of Barack Obama. Better fasten your seat belt and get used to it Paul because there’s a lot of us who don’t share your affection for the affliction in the White House.

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:37 am

has the quality of the threats to America’s way of life, liberty and standing in the world gone seriously downhill?

I was looking at the list-by-GDP to see where Venezuela ranked.

Maybe we can drop down another thirty places, and start making Slovakia the next booga-booga be-very-afraid target.

Thomas

July 12th, 2012
8:37 am

Jay your analysis is a rather simplistic Steelers v. say the Vandy Commodores. Kind of like the ol’ SNL “da Bears”.

You may want to take a sip out of that latte and think about a small group with no real infrastructure literally crippling this world power on 9-11. Gone are the days of the grey v. tan uniforms lining up in in the S Pacific.

One rather nasty bomb can wipe out millions.

killerj

July 12th, 2012
8:38 am

I agree Jay,not important,what,s important is the economy stink,s so bad we need someone else to give it a shot because this man does not know his ass from a hole in the ground.

Paul

July 12th, 2012
8:38 am

Recon

“who has placed our military in Afghanistan at greater risk by his bone headed decisions as CinC.”

Well, of course more people moved onto the KIA list. You flood a small country with tens of thousands of soldiers and put them out on missions, of course more are going to get killed.

So it gets confusing here. You criticize Pres Obama for getting people killed by making bone headed decisions, yet he did what this senior military advisor and Unified Command commander wanted him to do (okay, minor point, his senior military advisor wanted more troops in, which would have killed more of our guys, and he wanted them there longer so that would result in more killed, also)…. so it seems to me you’re constructing opposing arguments and using both to criticize the president.

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:38 am

but he was always pooped at the end of the day

“So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on ‘em. Gimme five bees for a quarter, you’d say. Now where was I… oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn’t get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones… ”

–Thomas Jefferson

Welcome to the Occupation

July 12th, 2012
8:41 am

There’s no more sure litmus test of our paranoiac empire, no where that the pure thuggery of lockstop thinking more in evidence than in how we impose thought control through speech control when the topic of some supposed South American “dictator” comes up.

The major role of this thought control is to enforce a ban on ever, ever, under any circumstances giving voice to the reality of the brute force of US empire and the prerogative it ruthlessly lays claim to to absolute pursuit of its “national interests” no matter what the costs to other nations and no matter how in conflict with our own stated “ideals”. That’s what it means to be the hegemon, the empire, and be able to call the shots. Both parties do it: one somewhat more subtly, but the other with the knuckle-dragging fervor.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

July 12th, 2012
8:41 am

USinUK

First time I saw that, when Romney got to “end of quote”
I nearly cried from laughter….

Paul

July 12th, 2012
8:41 am

Thomas Heyward

“What’s the point of you saving this superb military for, Colin, if we can’t use it?”

SecState Madeline Albright to CJCS Colin Powell.

And she’s not a neocon.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

July 12th, 2012
8:41 am

ADAM,

Say what you want about the drones, but Al Qadea/Taliban are terror organizations that use suicide bombers murdering innocents to create fear to get their way. The drones put the fear of Allah into them and don’t kill as many innocents. I say they are a good thing and highly support them. Best of all, they save American lives and I’m all for that.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
8:41 am

ty webb

July 12th, 2012
8:41 am

ah yes, the ol’ criticizing of “conservative media” on a “liberal media” forum…otherwise known as the “but my sh@t don’t stink” theorem.

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 12th, 2012
8:41 am

Meh

Foreign affairs will take a back seat to the economy as it should

Obama said equally silly things when running

Wasn’t he going to make friends with Iran? Ha

Butch Cassidy (I)

July 12th, 2012
8:43 am

I seem to have lost track, how many things is Romney going to do on day 1?

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:43 am

Based upon what exactly?

Based on the only poll amalgamation outfit I put any trust in at all.

Accept no substitutes (ok, I’ll look at the other guys, but Nate is, as the kids say, da bomb.)

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

You might want to remind yourself that it’s not a popular vote contest, it’s an electoral vote contest, for President. And if current trends continue, Mitt ain’t winning.

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:45 am

Terrence

July 12th, 2012
8:45 am

Correction! Chavez is an avowed socialist turned tinpot dictator. He’s riddled with the cancer of leftism.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

July 12th, 2012
8:45 am

Y’all do realize that when President Bush left office, the unemployment rate was over 7%?
Yes sir, the GOP has always been bullish on jobs and you are correct; It IS the economy and it IS getting better…in spite of the Republican foot dragging. THAT is what will be remembered come November.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

July 12th, 2012
8:45 am

Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people

July 12th, 2012
8:41 am

“Wasn’t he going to make friends with Iran? Ha”

In fact no he did not. That is a lie.

TaxPayer

July 12th, 2012
8:46 am

At least it shouldn’t take much of a tax cut to fund Mitt’s invasion of Venezuela.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

July 12th, 2012
8:46 am

Butch Cassidy (I)

July 12th, 2012
8:43 am

Only one. He will ask Cheney what to do.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

July 12th, 2012
8:47 am

“Y’all do realize that when President Bush left office, the unemployment rate was over 7%?”

and the economy was hemorraging -850K jobs/MONTH

Welcome to the Occupation

July 12th, 2012
8:48 am

Never mind Chavez. If you want to see this nation’s “True colors” when it comes to South American leaders who threaten Washington, recall the absolute outrage and panic that Allende in Chile inspired in the likes of Richard Nixon and his private warlord, Kissinger.

Don’t do what Allende did

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v34/n14/greg-grandin/dont-do-what-allende-did?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3414&hq_e=el&hq_m=1839483&hq_l=17&hq_v=019db16c40

And then came Allende, horn-rimmed, jowly and looking a little too well lived to be a revolutionary. An avowed Marxist who was also an avowed democrat, he was at odds with Kissinger’s bipolar world. He was neither raw nor cooked. ‘I don’t think anybody in the government understood how ideological Kissinger was about Chile,’ an aide at the National Security Council once said. ‘I don’t think anybody ever fully grasped that Henry saw Allende as being a far more serious threat than Castro. If Latin America ever became unravelled, it would never happen with a Castro. Allende was a living example of democratic social reform in Latin America. All kinds of cataclysmic events rolled around, but Chile scared him.

stands for decibels (YL)

July 12th, 2012
8:49 am

He’s riddled with the cancer of leftism.

Stay classy, Terrance.

Doggone/GA

July 12th, 2012
8:49 am

“Tell that to our young people in the military who’re on the KIA list because of an inept CnC.”

Bush has been out of office for over 3 years now

Thomas Heyward Jr.

July 12th, 2012
8:51 am

Paul
.
Just goes to show,,,,,,,,,violent pychosis is not limited to any party.
.
We will see Obama’s “calm steady” hand leading up to the election…IF obama has a chance of losing.
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I wouldn’t want to be a brown person living in the Middle East.
It won’t be a mere Wedding mass murder.

Mr Right

July 12th, 2012
8:51 am

Was that Chavez that the President of the United States of America bowed to ?

barking frog

July 12th, 2012
8:51 am

He’s riddled with the
cancer of leftism.
……..
genetic. because he has
a south paw.