The Curious Case of the Silent Watchdog
To borrow from the great Sherlock Holmes, it is the curious case of a watchdog that should have barked, but for some reason hasn’t.
As many of you know, on July 1 the process of renewing your Georgia driver’s license became much more complicated and time-consuming, requiring among other things an official copy of your birth certificate, an official Social Security card and, if you’re a married woman, a copy of your marriage license to justify use of your married name rather than your birth name.
Digging up all that material can be a real chore — personally, I haven’t seen my Social Security card in years if not decades. And once you’ve gathered it all, you then have to run the gauntlet at the overwhelmed Department of Driver Services, where waits of four or five hours have become common. People are getting angry about the situation, and for good reason.
But here’s the thing: The changes aren’t Georgia’s idea, and in fact have been forced upon the state by new federal regulations. So why haven’t we heard state elected officials blaming the feds for “shoving this change down Georgia’s throat”? Why aren’t they deflecting public anger over long lines by redirecting it at Washington, which in truth is causing the problem in the first place?
It would be so easy, even a liberal could do it. You mention the Tenth Amendment, states’ rights and federal overregulation, then close with the fact that dictating how states issue driver’s licenses is not a power enumerated by the Constitution. Voila! Instant poutrage!
As it turns out, however, Gov. Nathan Deal has a very good reason for staying silent on the matter. Back in 2005, when the federal legislation in question was being passed into law, then U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal co-sponsored the measure.
And Republicans in general are muting their usual complaints because the REAL ID bill was a GOP initiative, part of their effort to prove that no measure was too extreme or intrusive if it could be excused as a counter-terror measure. In the House, for example, Republicans voted 219-8 in favor of the requirement, while Democrats voted 42-152 against it.
In other words, as Holmes so wisely surmised, the dog doesn’t bark at its own master.
– Jay Bookman
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Midori
July 11th, 2012
2:49 pm
FIRST
CJ
July 11th, 2012
2:51 pm
More evidence that Republicans don’t care about states’ rights. Nor do they care about less government, low taxes (Ryan and Romney’s proposals raise taxes on the poor and middle class), or any of the other things they claim to care about. It’s all smoke and mirrors.
stands for decibels
July 11th, 2012
2:52 pm
then U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal co-sponsored the measure.
Nathan Deal IS the gift that goes on giving.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
2:54 pm
Success has a thousand parents. Except when it pizzes folks off who are standing in line at the DMV and there’s an election in the fall.
TaxPayer
July 11th, 2012
2:58 pm
Oh Noes! Tell me it ain’t so! In fact, that is nothing at all like how Speaker Ralston described it. He said it was the state’s fault (excluding himself obviously from being a part of the state) and that they are only having to Deal with it because it is federal law. Okay. I’m not 100% sure if Ralston complained about having to Deal with it or not.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 11th, 2012
3:00 pm
Jay,
Here’s a portion of the law…
Under the new rules, which began Tuesday, drivers have to bring an original
or certified birth certificate, proof of Social Security number (a Social
Security card, W-2 form or federal tax return) and two documents proving
where they live. Previous rules required these forms of identification when
applying for a new driver’s license or ID card, but now the forms are also
required for renewals. Also, the first renewal after the law change must be
done in person, not online.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
3:00 pm
Huh?
The case of the disappearing post.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 11th, 2012
3:02 pm
Actually Nathan Deal has presented a job opportunity. Sell food and drink to the people in line. If they have all that documentation with them, you could probably sell them guns too…wouldn’t that be a hoot?
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
3:02 pm
I’ve got a certified copy of my birth certificate as I had to have that to get my passport.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
3:03 pm
As for my original SS card?
That gonna be a tough one
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
3:04 pm
I think a passport is all you need Kam
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
3:05 pm
It’s the “Real Deal”!!!!
Jay
The reason they can’t push this one on the feds is because it passed prior to Jan 20, 2009.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
3:05 pm
No more drivers licenses for illegals! Oh the horror!!! Oh the humanity!!!!!!!!
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 11th, 2012
3:06 pm
Kam,
See my 3:00
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
3:06 pm
Okay, it seems to be the link
For those of you needing a birth certificate, this might help:
http://tinyurl.com/6tpglt3
stands for decibels
July 11th, 2012
3:07 pm
personally, I haven’t seen my Social Security card in years if not decades
…but if I read that statute quoted by Normal correctly, isn’t it sufficient to bring in a W-2?
I’ve got mine going back ten years or so.
Still seems excessive for a DL renewal.
St Simons
July 11th, 2012
3:07 pm
before this is over, the Republicans gonna be hollerin like Jerry Clower
‘git this thang off o me!’
i haven’t seen anger like this in a loooong time. And I will personally
post a big sign up to the DL office
“Thank you Republicans!” for this clust&*(
I suggest every democrat across the state do the same outside at
your local DL office. They won’t be able to get elected dog catcher.
Simple Truths
July 11th, 2012
3:07 pm
Yawn. Slow news day, Jay?
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:09 pm
These big government neocons could screw up a wet dream…
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
3:09 pm
Ben Shockley – “No more drivers licenses for illegals! Oh the horror!!! Oh the humanity!!!!!!!!”
I think you missed the point. It’s not that anyone wants to give illegals a drivers license, it’s that people who are actually legal don’t enjoy standing in line for hours to get one. Which, thanks to Deal, is now the case.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
3:09 pm
“Yawn. Slow news day, Jay?”
Jay has been instructed by his handlers to deflect attention from jobs, unemployment, and the economy, wherever and however possible.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
3:09 pm
Now ………. if we could just get the same thing done for VOTING !
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
3:10 pm
The only Georgians who voted no in the House were Lewis and McKinney.
TaxPayer
July 11th, 2012
3:10 pm
Sounds like an opportunity has presented itself for someone interested in printing original replacement social security cards. I fully expect to see offers in the e-mail messages any day now. Just submit your name, address and social security number and they’ll send you a replacement card for FREE!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
3:11 pm
On the other hand ……………….. if you don’t like this ………. think how you’re going to like federal government control of your healthcare.
Can’t have it both ways Jay ………….. but you will try.
Willie
July 11th, 2012
3:11 pm
Bookman isn’t wanting to talk much about Obama’s latest push to incite class warfare and distract the voters from his dismal economic record record that is so lame even Senate Democrats don’t want to vote on it.
I don’t blame him.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
3:11 pm
“The only Georgians who voted no in the House were Lewis and McKinney.”
It was probably because they didn’t have any ID.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:11 pm
Yesirree corporal rabbit hole,
Cuz what we desperately need and want to do is to stand in line for four or five hours to vote.
Neocons. (eye roll…)
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
3:12 pm
Seems Scout does not comprehend the difference between a right and a privilege.
godless heathen
July 11th, 2012
3:12 pm
Homeland Security!! Keep us safe, please Mr. Federal Government. Please, oh, please keep us safe.
We just want to make sure you iz who you sez you iz.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:12 pm
One has ZERO to do with the other ………….. but you will try.
ty webb
July 11th, 2012
3:13 pm
at least this won’t affect minorities, nor the elderly…for they have no Driver’s licenses to renew.
TaxPayer
July 11th, 2012
3:13 pm
I heard the lines are long and they are closing the doors promptly at closing time and those in line have to come back the next business day and start over. There’s no overtime pay.
Simple Truths
July 11th, 2012
3:13 pm
Maybe Deal knew things were getting a little too efficient at DDS offices. Adding all this crap will slow DDS down to its historical, butt-of-all-jokes position in the pecking order.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:13 pm
Can’t you White Power boys just find some sort of poll tax to bring back?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
3:13 pm
“Cuz what we desperately need and want to do is to stand in line for four or five hours to vote.”
I would do that in a heartbeat if I knew only citizens and folks who had a little rudimentary knowledge of how our governments works were voting !!
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
3:13 pm
godless heathen – “Homeland Security!! Keep us safe, please Mr. Federal Government. Please, oh, please keep us safe.”
If I were you, I’d write to Governor Deal telling him what a jackwagon he is for even coming up with this crap.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
3:14 pm
“Cuz what we desperately need and want to do is to stand in line for four or five hours to vote.”
No, once you have your ID, you show it at the polling place and step right up. No standing required.
Libs (eye roll…)
Bernie
July 11th, 2012
3:14 pm
In the Republican world WE are all “SUSPECTS”.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
3:14 pm
Excuse me : “government”
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
3:14 pm
Don’t hear many democrats complaining about it. You would think since it makes it difficult for illegals that the dumocrats would be outraged.
TaxPayer
July 11th, 2012
3:15 pm
Someone get the government out of scout’s medicare for him.
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
3:15 pm
0311 – “I would do that in a heartbeat if I knew only citizens and folks who had a little rudimentary knowledge of how our governments works were voting !!”
Yes, but that would completely destroy the Romney base. You know, the ones who believe that he will actually be able to repeal Obamacare on day one.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
3:16 pm
I would do that in a heartbeat if I knew only citizens and folks who had a little rudimentary knowledge of how our governments works were voting !!
Well now that thar’s another component. Apparently Scout could be barring himself from voting. He still does not know how the Supreme Courty thingy works
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 11th, 2012
3:16 pm
Well…look on the bright side…you don’t have to take a loyalty oath or sign in blood…
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
3:16 pm
godless heathen
July 11th, 2012
3:12 pm
“Keep us safe, please Mr. Federal Government. Please, oh, please keep us safe.”
Isn’t that what you libs essentially ask for/demand each and every day while holding your hands out for government health care, retirement income, regulation on business, etc, etc?
You just got OWNED
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
3:16 pm
The sad thing is, it was attached to the supplimental bill for the war on terror by the house as a rider. The Senate passed that supplimental bill 100-0. This is the stuff that happens when you attach unrelated legislation to other bills. Can’t blame this one on Obama or the Democratic Party. This is another GOP timebomb of a gem.
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
3:17 pm
Ben Shockley – “You just got OWNED”
Actually, you did. godless isn’t a “lib”.
You’re welcome godless.
carlosgvv
July 11th, 2012
3:17 pm
And yet, all you “compassionate conservatives” here will believe every word Romney says and every Republican TV commercial, while absolutely refusing to believe anything Obama says.
And you wonder why liberals feel the majority of you aren’t playing with a full deck?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
3:18 pm
Getting a drivers license is not a RIGHT, getting health care provided by the government is not a RIGHT and voting in a presidential election is not a RIGHT under the Constitution.
http://www.fairvote.org/right-to-vote-f-a-q
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dorf/20001213.html
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
3:18 pm
Isn’t that what you libs essentially ask for/demand each and every day while holding your hands out for government health care, retirement income, regulation on business, etc, etc?
You just got OWNED
godless heathen a lib?? You just owned yourself.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
3:19 pm
Got to run. Everyone be nice to each other !
td
July 11th, 2012
3:20 pm
I will endure the waiting in line once every 8 years to stop illegals from getting DL’s and to not raise my taxes.
No more debate needed.
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
3:20 pm
Bro – “godless heathen a lib?? You just owned yourself.”
Ben can’t even keep track of his own team. LOL
Road Scholar
July 11th, 2012
3:20 pm
BS (like your initials!): “Jay has been instructed by his handlers to deflect attention from jobs, unemployment, and the economy, wherever and however possible.”
So, how do you expect to deflect the issue of your stupidity? This is Jay’s third post today. The last was on healthcare…which pertains to the economy. Strike 1! Many posts stated they resented the vote for refocusing on jobs. Strike 2!….Try to go for strike 3?
Doggone/GA
July 11th, 2012
3:21 pm
Well, I’ve got 5 years before I need to renew my license…plenty of time to gather all the info I need!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
3:22 pm
The Voting Rights Act codifies the 15th Amendment’s permanent guarantee that, throughout the nation, no person shall be denied the right to vote on account of race or color.
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
3:22 pm
“And you wonder why liberals feel the majority of you aren’t playing with a full deck?”
Conservatives don’t wonder or have much concern with that we’re only concerned with getting liberal politicians out of office.
Road Scholar
July 11th, 2012
3:23 pm
Do ya’ think, that an illegal, who wants to stay under the radar, would actually get a drivers license?
Donovan
July 11th, 2012
3:23 pm
Guess what liberals? This policy change also keeps illegal aliens at bay along with terrorists. And yes, illegal aliens can get fraudulent documents past DMV personnel.
By the way, I thought you guys were all for government overreach?
How about chewing on this… Your “drain-the-swamp” gal in the House, Nancy Pelosi, joined the ranks of overseas investors just like your DNC hypocrite shill, Debbie Wasserman Schulz.
Seems that she made between $1M & $5M from Asian investments with Matthews International Capital Management that boasts of outsourcing success.
And you Democrats castigate Mitt for foreign investments and outsourcing. Not only are you low class club members, but absolute hypocrites to boot.
TaxPayer
July 11th, 2012
3:23 pm
Right wing bloggers should start wearing an R after their names so Ben can spot ya in a crowd.
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
3:24 pm
I thought I heard that more regulation was a good thing?
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
3:24 pm
Getting a drivers license is not a RIGHT
It might not be, but according to the 24th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States:
“Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”
If you’re going to require ID to vote in state elections, that’s all fine and good. When you step into the federal realm, you might wanna make those ID’s as easy and accessible as possible to obtain. There are a few states that face extra scrutiny when it comes to electoral processes. If they really want that scrutiny to go away, you don’t do that by kicking the proverbial hornet’s nest.
TaxPayer
July 11th, 2012
3:25 pm
Do ya’ think, that an illegal, who wants to stay under the radar, would actually get a drivers license?
You just had to go and stick the word “think” in there didn’t ya.
Butch Cassidy (I)
July 11th, 2012
3:25 pm
Taxpayer – “Right wing bloggers should start wearing an R after their names so Ben can spot ya in a crowd.”
Like this?
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
3:26 pm
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
3:16 pm
Is that like Harry Reid sticking DADT in w/ a military spending bill and whining b/c it didn’t pass?
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:26 pm
…only citizens and folks who had who had a little rudimentary knowledge of how our governments works were voting.
Citizens AND folks???
Like I said, you just miss the poll tax days.
You boys in the Anti-patriot Party are pathetic.
Instead of wanting and encouraging every eligible American to vote, you want to start excluding different groups again.
With you being the arbiters of who is intelligent or whatever enough.
The laugh of the day…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
3:26 pm
I thought I heard that more regulation was a bad thing?
TaxPayer
July 11th, 2012
3:27 pm
Is that blush on Nathan’s face natural or maybelline
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:27 pm
…to stop illegals from getting DL’s…
Nothing like treating the symptoms and pretending you are curing the disease.
It’s called Republicanism..
godless heathen
July 11th, 2012
3:27 pm
Thanks Butch.
TaxPayer
July 11th, 2012
3:28 pm
Butch,
Don’t be confusing Ben even more.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
3:28 pm
Congress enacted the National Voter Registration Act of 1993, 42 U.S.C. 1973gg-5(a), (b), to enhance voting opportunities for every American and to remove the vestiges of discrimination which have historically resulted in lower voter registration rates of minorities and persons with disabilities. The NVRA has brought new voices to the political process by making it easier for all Americans to exercise their fundamental right to vote.
Somebody needs to talk to Kemp about that “privilege” thing.
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
3:28 pm
I guess Jay is only for regulation bills if Democrats sponsor it.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:29 pm
By the way, I thought you guys were all for government overreach?
Don’t think, meat.
Yeah, poor Benji. What a mess.
Calling heathen a liberal is just more proof of how UTTERLY clueless the guy is…
Butch Cassidy (I)
July 11th, 2012
3:29 pm
I’m confused. The Republicans say that regulations are bad for business and stifle growth, yet they vote for and support a bill that will keep employees standing in lines at the DMV for 4 hours? How does that translate into productivity?
HDB
July 11th, 2012
3:29 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
3:18 pm
Scout….the 15th Amendment seems to counter your idea about the Constitutional RIGHT to vote!! Better recheck what you swore to “preserve, protect, and defend”…….
carlosgvv
July 11th, 2012
3:29 pm
Recon – 3:22 “conservatives don’t wonder or have much concern”
That sums up your true mental state far better than I ever could.
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
3:29 pm
BTW, I’m fine w/ the new requirements since it’ll probably prevent illegal immigrants from getting a drivers licence.
stands for decibels
July 11th, 2012
3:30 pm
godless heathen a lib?
Just like that hippie Peadawg, yep.
stands for decibels
July 11th, 2012
3:31 pm
I think we can all stand together and say “bully bully! Huzzah!” at any new measures to increase the number of undocumented, uninsured drivers on the streets of Georgia.
Good show, chaps.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
3:32 pm
“When driver’s licenses are outlawed, only outlaws will have driver’s licenses.”
– Thomas Jefferson
TaxPayer
July 11th, 2012
3:32 pm
How does that translate into productivity?
Through proper use of non-union employees receiving minimum wage with no overtime or healthcare benefits. It’s the Republican way.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 11th, 2012
3:32 pm
Unfunded mandate
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 11th, 2012
3:33 pm
Nathan Deal did something while in congress?
I’m shocked….
TaxPayer
July 11th, 2012
3:34 pm
Is an illegal immigrant breaking the Georgia laws if he does not get caught?
Just say NO
July 11th, 2012
3:35 pm
Since the DMV is a state run agency and is now requiring a wait time of four to five hours, what makes Governor Deal believe that we can trust them with T-Splost funds?
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
3:35 pm
Pea
Yep. You could also say that goes to show that Reid ain’t got the swag that the GOP has. They succeeded where he failed.
Butch Cassidy (I)
July 11th, 2012
3:35 pm
I can hear Deal selling this to prospective companies looking to relocate.
“The good news is that we will keep illegals from obtaining drivers licenses.
The bad news is is that your employees will need at least a half day off in order to renew theirs.”
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
3:35 pm
Bro @ 3:24
Now why you want to come to the table with logic…….
You know where you are at.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
3:36 pm
HDB:
Quick return and then I must leave ………. late already:
I said “presidential elections. See the two websites I posted. It is not a total RIGHT except as outlined in the Constitution.
Felons in most states ……….. no right to vote.
Citizens in U.S. Territories ……….. no right to vote in presidential electons.
U.S. soldiers (age 17) ………. no right to vote in presidential elections.
Got to run ……….. would love to continue this evening !
St Simons
July 11th, 2012
3:36 pm
once we ‘cram ACA down their throats’ and take thar gunz,
we should add the mandate to voting, like Australia did.
You have 2 weeks to vote, every single person gets to vote,
and if you don’t, you pay a penalty on your income tax.
They’d be the Whigs in one cycle.
weetamoe
July 11th, 2012
3:36 pm
Jawohl, the White Power Boys who are poisoning the wells in black communities and roasting black babies on a spit. Gee whiz, all Luckovich did was depict a small black child with a tail.
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
3:37 pm
“Yep”
Thanks, Bro. Just doing my due-diligence to be fair and balanced.
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
3:38 pm
Does Deal still have to intercede on behalf oh his businesses that DEAL with the state or now that he is Governor does he just look in the mirror and have a conversation?
Maybe he divested himself of those “DEALS” he had a few years ago.
We sure got a bargain with this guy……..
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
3:38 pm
Butch
Gonna join you in labeling my political affiliation, lest I get improperly labeled by our “shoot first, aim later” poster. The “B” is for the party of Brosephus. Act quickly, and you can buy shares and join the ranks.
td
July 11th, 2012
3:39 pm
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
3:24 pm
Getting a drivers license is not a RIGHT
It might not be, but according to the 24th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States:
“Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”
If you’re going to require ID to vote in state elections, that’s all fine and good. When you step into the federal realm, you might wanna make those ID’s as easy and accessible as possible to obtain. There are a few states that face extra scrutiny when it comes to electoral processes. If they really want that scrutiny to go away, you don’t do that by kicking the proverbial hornet’s nest.
It is not a tax but a fee. Sort of like the Dems case for Obamacare.
You can not buy a beer in this state without a photo id. You can not receive welfare benefits without proving identity. Why should you be allowed to vote without proving who you are and if you are legal.
Erwin's cat (FU)
July 11th, 2012
3:40 pm
Felines United
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 11th, 2012
3:40 pm
Well, seems to me the state ought to make lemonade out of lemons. If they’re going to ask for your birth certificate, SS card, and marriage liscence, plus the power and telephone bills to prove where you say you live, they might as well do your annual checkup for you. Just put ‘em all on a table and use a long scope to look up their rear end and their Private Parts. When you leave the place they could tell you, “Here’s your new drivers liscence and you better get that polyp halfway up your gut looked at.”
Anyhow, whatever happened to the Right of Privacy? You can’t get a drivers liscence without telling the guvmint everything about you and you can get arrested if you don’t tell the guvmint about every penny you make. And every 10 years the guvmint sends people around to ask all kinds of personal questions, and you got to answer them. That’s why I always look around the toilet bowl before I ever set down. I don’t want to be watching TV one night and see a news clip about my butt showing up because I never noticed the little camera the guvmint put down inside of the bowl. Course, I think the idea of a guvmint bedroom monitor is still a pretty good one.
Have a good p.m. everybody.
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
3:40 pm
They BOTH
Well, I took an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies both foreign AND domestic. If I didn’t do my job, I would be violating my oath.
—————-
Peadawg
And that’s what I respect about you. You speak your beliefs without barking the party line.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:40 pm
The good news is that the thousands of Georgia businessmen who knowingly use illegals don’t give a flying ___ if they have drivers licenses or not.
Ain’t their problem…
Butch Cassidy (I)
July 11th, 2012
3:41 pm
Bro – “Butch
Gonna join you in labeling my political affiliation,”
I certainly hope it cuts down on friendly fire casualties. i.e godless heathen
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 11th, 2012
3:42 pm
The brocephus party is too extreme for me
Not big tent
Only one member as far as I can tell
stands for decibels (YL)
July 11th, 2012
3:42 pm
I think I’ve self-identified correctly. I think I’m one a’ them “You Libs”.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
3:42 pm
More regulations?
Come on gop.
It is your ideology of no regulations cons.
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
3:43 pm
godless
You “PINKO”
By the way, Happy belated Birthday
Hope you had a good weekend
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
3:43 pm
Actually Pea I have noticed your more moderate tone as well…good job (like my endorsement means anything…but hey)
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
3:43 pm
Why is it that liberal democrats want illegals and terrorists to possess D/L’s? Why is that everything that’s traditionally American liberal democrats dislike, while they like everything that’s unAmerican? Hopefully, the Democrat party will one day purge itself of the radicals that have taken over and restore itself to respectability.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:45 pm
There are a few states that face extra scrutiny when it comes to electoral processes.
Hmmmm.
Wonder what that means?
Oh, yeah, that’s right.
Here in Dixie we have to have the feds watching us like hawks so the White Power boys don’t rig the elections anymore!
The Voting Rights Act established extensive federal oversight of elections administration, providing that states with a history of discriminatory voting practices (so-called “covered jurisdictions”) could not implement any change affecting voting without first obtaining the approval of the Department of Justice, a process known as preclearance. These enforcement provisions applied to states and political subdivisions (mostly in the South) that had used a “device” to limit voting and in which less than 50 percent of the population was registered to vote in 1964. The Act has been renewed and amended by Congress four times, the most recent being a 25-year extension signed into law by President George W. Bush in 2006.
stands for decibels (YL)
July 11th, 2012
3:45 pm
We can’t have any regulations because the regulation might be bad.
At least that’s what Randie and Ronnie were telling me the other day.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/the-pauls-new-crusade-internet-freedom
getalife
July 11th, 2012
3:45 pm
I am in the anything but the gop party..
I am anticon because they are crazy.
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
3:45 pm
EC
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td: It is not a tax but a fee. Sort of like the Dems case for Obamacare.
You can not buy a beer in this state without a photo id. You can not receive welfare benefits without proving identity. Why should you be allowed to vote without proving who you are and if you are legal.
If it acts as a tax, regardless to what it’s called, it is still a tax. Did you not learn that a few weeks ago? Sorta like the ruling from Chief Justice Roberts… When the Constitution is amended to protect those things you listed in the same manner that the right to vote is protected by the 24th, you’ll have a valid point. Until you get that amendment passed, you’re trying to defend yourself by “windmilling”, and that fighting style never wins.
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
3:46 pm
“Why is it that liberal democrats want illegals and terrorists to possess D/L’s?”
Why is that your broad brushes can paint a shopping center with 5 swipes? Heck you have moved on to a paint sprayer as of late.
Why is that you make assertions but usually have very little factual evidence to back it up?
godless heathen
July 11th, 2012
3:47 pm
I oppose dumb laws whether they were sponsored by GOP or Dems and this one was sponsored by the GOP.
I thought enforcement of immigration laws was the role of the Federal Government and not the States. Seems the Feds are asking the States to do what they are unwilling to do.
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
3:48 pm
jm
You’ve already been vetted for membership. Anybody that can accurately diagnose “pure BS” is more than welcome.
josef
July 11th, 2012
3:48 pm
What next, DNA results? A marriage license? I told Mildred not to burn hers when she kicked John Henry out, and I told her she’d be sorry she kept his name to ruin it. But, did she listen?
And this will stop the illegal aliens? Shoot, they can come up with the documents to pass inspection on the black market a lot quicker than “we” can doing it the “right” way.
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
3:49 pm
Why is that there is so much crying about the illegals and Democrats but very little said about the businesses who hire them? Are those businesses all owned by liberals? If so, it opposite of the typical bs, libs are lazy mantra, put out almost daily on this blog?
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
3:50 pm
If I’d known this was likely to happen the last time I renewed my license, I’d have taken my DD-214 and gotten the Veterans’ Special renewal.
Good until age 65.
TaxPayer
July 11th, 2012
3:51 pm
Well if this new law helps to keep the 90 year olds up here where I live from getting a new driver’s license, since there’s no way they’ll ever find their social security card or convince anyone that some writing in their handed-down family Bible is their real birth certificate, I’m good with it. They just don’t need to be driving themselves around. They should use public transportation. There’s all sorts of options in that regard. The backs of pickup trucks and golf carts and those electric wheelchairs to name just a few. Heck. The post offices could even expand their business model to include delivery of the elderly to and from the grocery stores.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:51 pm
I am anticon because they are crazy.
If I was in the bumper sticker business, I could make a fortune with that one!
jonix, if you don’t pee in the bottle, you ain’t voting, son!
Butch Cassidy (I)
July 11th, 2012
3:51 pm
Recon -”Why is it that liberal democrats want illegals and terrorists to possess D/L’s”
They don’t, nor do they want to spend half a day at the DMV to get one either.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
3:52 pm
And this will stop the illegal aliens?
No, but it will give the perception of it.
bman
July 11th, 2012
3:54 pm
I don’t know if I have ever even seen my SS card. Is that really required?
I’m sure this has probably been asked several times but- how do people here illegally get their DL without a social security card?
getalife
July 11th, 2012
3:54 pm
Pee in a cup is next?
cons call that freedom.
We can renew our licenses on the internet.
Score one for Louisiana but don’t give jindal your dumb ideas.
Butch Cassidy (I)
July 11th, 2012
3:55 pm
“And this will stop the illegal aliens?”
Only if they open a DMV office in the parking lot of a gas station or Home Depot.
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
3:56 pm
“Why is that you make assertions but usually have very little factual evidence to back it up?”
So if your fellow lefty’s post an opinion it’s automatically considered to be factual, however, if a Conservative blogger posts an opinion that’s disagreeable to you it constitutes an assertion having very little factual evidence. Interesting…and you talk about “broad brushes”.
td
July 11th, 2012
3:56 pm
Butch Cassidy (I)
July 11th, 2012
3:51 pm
You are mistaken my friend. My wife works for DFCS and has seen plenty of illegals with Georgia D/L’s. Many, many more with Tenn and NC D/L’s.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:56 pm
Nathan Deal is a disgrace.
As corrupt and slimy as they come.
And it is terribly sad, even if completely predictable, that this thief is our governor…
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
3:59 pm
In some states, people who are not citizens or legal residents have to show proof of their status in the US by providing a stamped I-94 and their passport before getting a driver’s license.
http://www.immihelp.com/newcomer/getting-drivers-license-photo-id.html
Some states will issue ID’s to anybody, regardless of status, but I don’t think the requirements for actual driver’s licenses are that lenient.
td
July 11th, 2012
4:01 pm
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:56 pm
Nathan Deal is a disgrace.
As corrupt and slimy as they come.
And it is terribly sad, even if completely predictable, that this thief is our governor…
And just because you think so does not mean it is a true statement. If Deal decides to run for re election in two years then he will win by receiving 58 to 60% of the vote. I think I trust the voters opinion more then some anonymous leftest blogger.
G Mare
July 11th, 2012
4:03 pm
I am 71 & my health problems will not allow me to stand in a line for hours, so I just have to give up driving next March? I do have my SS card tho.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
4:03 pm
td,
Who are you?
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
4:03 pm
Recon
If you see an assertion that isn’t backed up, call it out
Don’t be made because you posted something that you can’t back up and were called out on it.
I missed the I think, I believe, it is my option, etc
You were asking Why questions as if it were true. If you were not my bad.
Post that BS, I’m going to call you out on it. And you are welcome to do the same.
And you can talk all you want about “fellow” this and “fellow” that. I stand on my own two feet. Hope you do the same
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
4:04 pm
I think I trust the voters opinion more then some anonymous leftest blogger.
Too funny!
ragnar danneskjold
July 11th, 2012
4:04 pm
To steal the usual leftist talking point, “The democrats held Congress from 2007-2011, and did not do a thing to repeal this monstrosity.”
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
4:04 pm
Recon
So I guess you don’t have anything to back up those assertions / implications or “opinions” as you called them
Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people
July 11th, 2012
4:04 pm
Sorry bro. I’m libertarian light.
I appreciate the approval though in the no BS party
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
4:04 pm
http://www.dds.ga.gov/drivers/DLdata.aspx?con=1741471757&ty=dl
Identity and Lawful Presence Requirements
Non-US citizens are required to present immigration documents in person at a Customer Service Center to prove identity and lawful presence in the United States. Original documentation must be submitted each time a service is requested pertaining to a driver’s license or identification card. In some cases, one immigration document is sufficient to prove lawful presence. In others, additional immigration documents are required to prove lawful presence. The chart below provides details about these requirements.
If any people with no legal status obtained a legitimate Georgia Driver’s License, that would be due to them being able to pass fraudulent immigration documents off as legitimate, using an assumed identity through fraud, or they may actually be in possession of an “ID Only” document. There’s also the possiblity of an altered or counterfeit driver’s license as well. I’ve come across very good counterfeits that most people wouldn’t be able to tell were not state issued.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
4:05 pm
Recon — “Why is it that liberal democrats want illegals and terrorists to possess D/L’s?”
Don’t.
“Why is that everything that’s traditionally American liberal democrats dislike”
Don’t.
“while they like verything that’s unAmerican?”
Don’t. Strike three.
You know, you could stand some smartening up. Why don’t you actually try talking to one of us and *find out* what we actually think, instead of swallowing whatever talk-radio poison you’ve been gorging on? You might come away with some fresh learnin’ and while you might not agree with us, you might understand us better.
The questions you’re asking make as much sense as these:
Why do Republicans rise from their graves at night to feast on the blood of the living?
Why do Republicans want people to be poor and in debt all their lives?
Why do Republicans care so much about fetuses, but don’t give a (poop) about children after they’re born?
See how cluless that sounds? That’s how clueless you sound to me.
“Hopefully, the Democrat party will one day purge itself of the radicals that have taken over and restore itself to respectability.”
Dude, you haven’t SEEN radical leftists yet.
ragnar danneskjold
July 11th, 2012
4:05 pm
If you like the new drivers licensing procedures, you will love ObamaCare.
godless heathen
July 11th, 2012
4:05 pm
Joe: If I’d known this was likely to happen the last time I renewed my license, I’d have taken my DD-214 and gotten the Veterans’ Special renewal.
I don’t know how old you are but that may not save you. They have to get everyone in before a certain date, I think its 2020.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
4:06 pm
I think I trust voters, like myself, not remotely dissuaded by corruption and sliminess more than anyone who speaks the truth.
A disgraceful governor elected by disgraceful voters…
carlosgvv
July 11th, 2012
4:07 pm
I hope that all of you here, regardless of political affilation, realize that some Hispanic illegals are masters of producing forged documents.
Don't Forget
July 11th, 2012
4:07 pm
It makes a lot more sense to have verification of voter eligibility done at the time of registration than it does to have these ridiculous voter purges that affect many more eligible voters than ineligible voters.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
4:09 pm
The man is so slimy he left the slimeball Democratic Party to join the even slimier GOP.
These southern politicians and their voters would join the Communist Party if they thought that would help them stay in power…
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
4:09 pm
To steal the usual leftist talking point, “The democrats held Congress from 2007-2011, and did not do a thing to repeal this monstrosity.”
It must really suck to be wrong so often. Then again, you’re wrong so much that you’re probably immune to any negative implications or reprecussions of being wrong. That said, it’s always amusing to see someone so confident in their “knowledge” to be wrong so much. Can’t blame it on NCLB though as your stories have shown you to be well beyond grade school age.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act
Congressional efforts to change or repeal the Real ID Act
On February 28, 2007 U.S. Senator Daniel Akaka [D-HI] introduced the Senate Bill S. 717, “Identification Security Enhancement Act of 2007″, subtitled: “A bill to repeal title II of the REAL ID Act of 2005…
A similar bill was introduced on February 16, 2007 in the U.S. House of Representatives by Rep. Thomas Allen [D-ME], with 32 co-sponsors (all Democrats). The House bill, H.R. 1117, “REAL ID Repeal and Identification Security Enhancement Act of 2007″, is subtitled: “A bill to repeal title II of the REAL ID Act of 2005…
A more limited bill, S. 563, that would extend the deadlines for the states’ compliance with the Real ID Act, was introduced on February 13, 2007 in the U.S. Senate by Sen. Susan Collins [R, ME], together with Senators Lamar Alexander [R, TN], Thomas Carper [D, DE], Charles Hagel [R, NE], and Olympia Snowe [R, ME].
godless heathen
July 11th, 2012
4:10 pm
TBS: Thanks.
Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people
July 11th, 2012
4:10 pm
Ragnar 4:05 true dat
td
July 11th, 2012
4:11 pm
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
4:04 pm
And DFCS is not allowed to report illegals or potential fraudulent documents to the state of Federal authorities.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
4:11 pm
If you can’t back up your lies, don’t type them.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
4:11 pm
Recon — “So if your fellow lefty’s post an opinion it’s automatically considered to be factual, however, if a Conservative blogger posts an opinion that’s disagreeable to you it constitutes an assertion having very little factual evidence.”
Didn’t see you saying that was your opinion.
Maybe if you went the extra distance and said “It’s my opinion that liberals” yada yada yada, then we could just ignore you instead.
“Interesting…and you talk about “broad brushes”.
You can’t read our minds any more than we can read yours. How do you expect others to know you’re articulating your opinion if you don’t SAY that you’re articulating your opinion?
Here’s a thought experiment for you.
Mitt Romney hates dogs and is a tax cheat.
Is that an opinion or a factual assertion? Think about it.
Now you know how we’re looking at you.
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
4:11 pm
JHM @ 4:05
Now are those opinions or assertions. Some will throw out assertions or what appears to be assertions only to clarify that it was “opinion” when asked to provide substantiation.
Seems to be a very nice two step, but hey everyone dances to a different beat
Don't Forget
July 11th, 2012
4:13 pm
Sherlock Holmes: “Round up the usual suspects”
Old Goober
July 11th, 2012
4:13 pm
I ought to be thankful that some creep stole my wallet containing my DL and my SS card in April. I was able to get a replacement DL, plus a new DL number, merely by presenting my birth certificate and passing a peripheral vision test. At 70, I’m not in the mood to wait four hours to get a renewal DL, nor do I relish dealing with the SS Administration to get a replacement SS card, since I’m unlikely to be looking for a job. The TPers who are looking for “Terrists” to jump out of the bushes are costing us a great deal of freedom. They’re big and brave with the rhetoric, but in action? Not so much.
Mike
July 11th, 2012
4:13 pm
Jay, this article in your paper today says wait times are nowhere near what you say. You just love to start trouble, don’t you. http://www.ajc.com/news/dds-officials-present-update-1476307.html
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
4:14 pm
G. Heathen — “I don’t know how old you are but that may not save you. They have to get everyone in before a certain date, I think its 2020.”
Good to know, and thank you for that. Had I done the Veteran special, I would not have had to renew before 2020. However, the new law changes things.
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
4:14 pm
“You were asking Why questions as if it were true. If you were not my bad.”
I was stating my opinion. This is an opinion blog.
“And you can talk all you want about “fellow” this and “fellow” that. I stand on my own two feet. Hope you do the same”
This is a left wing blog and you seem to lean left politically. I pretty much ignore the left wing rhetoric posted on here, you should consider doing the same with my posts or the posts from other Conservatives that you find objectionable. As for “standing on my own two feet” I’ve been doing so for many years and probably even a few more than you.
St Simons
July 11th, 2012
4:15 pm
Che Guevara thinks I’m liberal
My cocked eyebrow is the only Declaration of Independence I need.
stay thirsty my friends
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
4:16 pm
It makes a lot more sense to have verification of voter eligibility done at the time of registration…
As I understand it, the law requires all registrations to be submitted for scrutiny — hence the registration for Mickey Mouse, Elmer Fudd etc. It might make “sense” to you to streamline the process by allowing those doing the registering to weed these out, but I think that would put too much power in potentially unscrupulous individuals rather than spreading out the process to allow checks and balances.
Logical Dude
July 11th, 2012
4:16 pm
an official copy of your birth certificate, an official Social Security card and, if you’re a married woman, a copy of your marriage license to justify use of your married name
“Papers Please”
“More Papers Please”
“You’re not done, MORE PAPERS PLEASE”
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
4:17 pm
TBS — “Now are those opinions or assertions. Some will throw out assertions or what appears to be assertions only to clarify that it was “opinion” when asked to provide substantiation. Seems to be a very nice two step, but hey everyone dances to a different beat”
Recon berated me earlier today for calling him out on saying someone else was a liar. Apparently, he didn’t think I was “squeaky clean” enough to point out dishonesty on his part.
FWIW, if that’s the standard he wants to use, I don’t think *he’s* squeaky-clean enough to call others out like that. So now what?
Don't Forget
July 11th, 2012
4:17 pm
Old Goober,
I took my SS card out of my wallet years ago for that very reason. Still have the original.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
4:19 pm
Recon — “I was stating my opinion. This is an opinion blog.”
Two different things. This is JAY’S opinion blog. His posts are his opinions.
OUR posts here are not necessarily so.
A courteous poster would clarify matters by saying something like “this is my opinion” or “right or wrong, this is what I think about it.”
Ever wonder why you get called out for not being able to support the stuff you post here? Because it *looks* like you’re making claims of fact, not expressing your opinion.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
4:20 pm
Papers, papers everywhere….. but not from Mitt.
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
4:21 pm
Joe@4:11,
Joe I know you’re filled with self importance and see many bloggers as being beneath you, but TBS is capable of representing himself in blog exchanges and I’m certain he doesn’t require your benevolent intervention, however, on his behalf I’ll go ahead and thank you anyway.
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
4:21 pm
Recon
Thanks for the reply. Within the parameters that Jay sets, not you, we can post and reply to others posts. And if that means asking for substantiation, so be it.
Thanks goes for you, me or anyone else on this blog.
Bernie
July 11th, 2012
4:23 pm
A unwitting state wide Voter registration drive for the Democratic Party brought to us by the Republican Party.
Many of these people in line will vote against the very party that made them wait!
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
4:24 pm
DF, I guess there are a couple of us.
I still have mine with my scrawled out 14 year old signature on it.
I made a whopping $112 in 1969.
Not bad considering that I was making a buck an hour busting my arse at the grain elevator and in hay fields!
Boris Badnoff
July 11th, 2012
4:24 pm
Prior to these new laws all of the Drivers License Whatevers were closed on Mondays. And to meet the demand they are now open on…uh, uh.. you mean they are still closed on Mondays? One of the things that sets America apart from other countries is we have no elite class. All Americans are treated exactly alike. So we can look forward to those photos of Georgia’s governor, Nice Nathan Deal, standing in line from 3 to 7 hours to get his license renewed. The only thing that would put a bigger smile on my face is to see Jay Bookman standing next to him.
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
4:24 pm
excuse me Recon
Should have read “That goes………” not “Thanks………….”
Besides the politics, hope you are having a good day. Saw where you stated that you and your family had a great vacation. Glad you enjoyed
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
4:25 pm
Recon — “Joe I know you’re filled with self importance and see many bloggers as being beneath you,”
This is clearly your opinion, because there’s nothing factual about it. (laughing)
“but TBS is capable of representing himself in blog exchanges and I’m certain he doesn’t require your benevolent intervention”
I’m not talking about TBS. I’m talking to YOU. Eyes FRONT, Marine.
Are you equal to the challenge or not? Instead of whining about others posts, man up and call them out. If you’re tired of being called out for your BS posts, try saying “this is my opinion” or something like it.
Maybe instead of whining and complaining, you could ruck up and take the freakin’ HILL, Marine.
“however, on his behalf I’ll go ahead and thank you anyway.”
You should thank me on your own behalf. Frankly, I’m giving you more help than I think you deserve.
Jay
July 11th, 2012
4:25 pm
That’s not what it says, Mike. It says that the statewide average wait is an hour and 48 minutes, and that the wait in the metro area is longer than that average.
Continuing reports of waits of four and even seven hours:
http://blogs.ajc.com/chatter/2012/07/11/the-waiting-game/
http://www.gpb.org/news/2012/07/11/long-waits-still-face-drivers
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
4:25 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
4:20 pm
Nice….
Jay
July 11th, 2012
4:27 pm
Boris, I’m good into 2017.
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
4:27 pm
“Ever wonder why you get called out for not being able to support the stuff you post here?”
Joe, to tell you the truth it never enters my mind because I don’t take this blog or any blog as seriously as you evidently do. BTW…if this is not an opinion blog from what I’ve seen from many of your posts, you’re in real trouble but fortunately you don’t seem to know it.
Williebkind
July 11th, 2012
4:29 pm
Well it must be the progressive liberals who stand in line for hours. I went by and saw it was a long line and left. I will check again tomorrow. See progressive liberals! It is not difficult but no more illegals with drivers license and voting again. How are we going to stop all those liberal dead people from voting?
Jm (LL) -pass TSPLOST silly people
July 11th, 2012
4:29 pm
“OUR posts here are not necessarily so.”
Jhm, don’t worry, no one confuses your posts for being factual.
Williebkind
July 11th, 2012
4:30 pm
I got it, we will call thos dead liberals who vote–ZOMBIES.
josef
July 11th, 2012
4:31 pm
When I was a kid and “The Sound of Music” came out, the lines at the movies were long, long. So we hit on the idea of going and selling coffee to those waiting in line. Made a nice little profit. Maybe this will create some opportunities for “job creation.” Would the state permit it and would the little one have to have the same documents, a green card, a business license, health permit…oh, yeah, and a food stamp card…
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
4:31 pm
Jay and many others on here have come down w/ a case of ’selective regulation’ it seems. As long as it has a D/R by the name, those w/ blinders will be ok with it.
Bunch of damn Seabiscuits……
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
4:32 pm
Apparently, tons of Americans have legitimate concerns about Flip Robme.
Prepare your enemas now, cons. He is the next John McCain…
“I am not concerned about the very poor they have their own safety nets.”
That’s more than a gaffe…He was telling the truth. The other part of the truth is
if he, god forbid, was ever elected, the very poor, the poor, the middle class, ALL
of us will have no safety net.
This man is a liar, we know his views on women. Not good.
He out sources jobs to Singapore, China and India. He also has off shore banking via his
tax havens in Cayman Islands, Bermuda and many more places. The big question…If his
money is legal, then he is UN-AMERICAN. No president, has ever had these accounts.
The bigger question that begs for an answer is why did he transfer the Bermuda account to his wife on the eve of his bring sworn in for Gov of my state?
josef
July 11th, 2012
4:32 pm
BTW…asking a woman for her marriage license but not a man, isn’t that sexual discrimination?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
4:32 pm
As an aside, Princess — since I know you are here — your IP spoofer is in direct conflict with the AJC visitor’s agreement
• Forging headers or otherwise manipulating identifiers in a manner that disguises the origin of any content you transmit through any Communications Service;
But by all means continue doing so.
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
4:33 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/taliban-commander-says-taliban-cannot-win-afghan-war-131208823–abc-news-topstories.html
God I wish Hillary was running for President
Soothsayer
July 11th, 2012
4:34 pm
Something tells me that by this time next year, a lot of people are going to be cutting their own grass.
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
4:35 pm
good thing they don’t require a long form birth certificate, a copy of your college transcripts, 10 yrs of income tax forms, and a list of foreign investments, and anything in Eric Holders inbox
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
4:37 pm
“Something tells me that by this time next year, a lot of people are going to be cutting their own grass.”
I already do that. I push my entire acre and a half…great way to stay in shape.
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
4:38 pm
Bro, we need you @ 4:35.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
4:38 pm
Recon — “Joe, to tell you the truth it never enters my mind because I don’t take this blog or any blog as seriously as you evidently do.”
This must be your opinion again, because there’s nothing factual in that sentence.
You should talk to Doom about how seriously I take y’all. (laughing)
“BTW…if this is not an opinion blog from what I’ve seen from many of your posts, you’re in real trouble”
Aww, Punkin, you’re not “squeaky clean” enough to be any trouble for me a-tall. (giggling)
“but fortunately you don’t seem to know it.”
Whatever trouble you’re talking about, I’m ready. Bring it.
Mr Right
July 11th, 2012
4:39 pm
As I was reading this I was wondering when the GOP slam would come and sure enough, there it was! It wouldn’t be Jays blog if that didn’t happen!
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
4:39 pm
Good one, cat!
But there seems to be some confusion over Flip not releasing his returns.
His dad released the previous TWELVE years of returns, not ten…
But then in terms of moral courage and standing up for the little guy instead of against him, Flip is not one twelfth the man his dad was!
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
4:40 pm
Jm — “Jhm, don’t worry, no one confuses your posts for being factual”
I won’t worry too much. Given your inability to distinguish the factual and the outright bizarre, you’re not even on my radar screen any more, Peanut.
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
4:40 pm
What Pea…I included the rhetoric from both sides…just trying to be equal opportunity
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
4:42 pm
JamVet — “But then in terms of moral courage and standing up for the little guy instead of against him, Flip is not one twelfth the man his dad was!”
Agreed.
However, I really think the cutesy names weaken the argument. Can’t we call him “Mr. Romney,” “Romney” or even just “Mitt?”
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
4:43 pm
I read “long form birth certificate” and stopped. My honest apologies.
Funny post.
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
4:44 pm
“However, I really think the cutesy names weaken the argument.”
Flip fits Romney pretty darn well though.
Proud to be me
July 11th, 2012
4:45 pm
I use to have to stand in line for hours just to vote!! Now that process has been greatly improved. People stand in line for hours at Christmas to get the latest and greatest toys . . . so, if it takes standing in line for hours with this new requirement . . . then so be it. I’m sure as time goes the process will improve. Stop whining (save that for the liberals!! … they are expert at it).
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
4:45 pm
Okay Joe I know you thought I’d left but you were just a few seconds too soon. I do know how important it is for you to have the last word as I’m certain it fills you with a much needed sense of greatness. I’m leaving for probably the balance of the afternoon and evening, so you can have the last word without fear.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
July 11th, 2012
4:46 pm
Republicans believe in less Federal government intrusion into States unless they say so.
Repbulicans believe the Federal government should not intrude on the private lives of citizens unless they say so.
Republicans believe in less government spending unless it is for military or they say so.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
4:47 pm
Recon — “Okay Joe I know you thought I’d left but you were just a few seconds too soon. I do know how important it is for you to have the last word as I’m certain it fills you with a much needed sense of greatness.”
More opinion, Punkin? “D
“I’m leaving for probably the balance of the afternoon and evening, so you can have the last word without fear.”
Not to worry. Whenever you and I post at each other, fear’s the last thing in my mind.
Does a cat fear the catnip mouse? (laughing)
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
4:49 pm
Does a cat fear the catnip mouse?
a great slogan for the Felines United (FU) party!
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
July 11th, 2012
4:50 pm
I renewed online earlier this year and am good until 2020.
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
4:51 pm
td: And DFCS is not allowed to report illegals or potential fraudulent documents to the state of Federal authorities.
And? You’re the one that brought your wife and DFCS into the debate. To use one of the talking points that’s often cited here… The GOP has governed Georgia for how long? And how many times have they tried to change those rules? They seem to have no problem at cutting budgets or giving tax breaks, so why can’t they resolve that single issue?
skipper
July 11th, 2012
4:51 pm
Hey Jay,
Heard that if Scout Willis moves to Georgia, she will be the only driver allowed (forced, actually) to NOT have a picture on her license………….. but seriously, is this not crazy!!!!!!!!????
Jay
July 11th, 2012
4:52 pm
East Cobb, after 2014, or 2017 if you’re over 50, your current DL will no longer be accepted by the TSA at the airport.
TGT
July 11th, 2012
4:53 pm
Well, the GOP may be responsible for making it more difficult (one time only) to get a driver’ license (I don’t have to worry about it until 2019!), but they sure are better for business than the Dems:
9 of the top 10 business-friendly states are led by the GOP:
1.) TX
2.) UT
3.) VA
4.) NC
5.) ND
6.) NE
7.) SD
8.) CO
9.) GA
10.) WY
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
July 11th, 2012
4:55 pm
Bummer for me then Jay as I am a card carrying AARP member. But what will they accept?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 11th, 2012
4:57 pm
Scout (From Page 1): I would do that in a heartbeat if I knew only citizens and folks who had a little rudimentary knowledge of how our governments works were voting !!
OMG — seems Scout has been listening to that lunatic Bortz again, (as was I). Bortz was on this morning trying to advocate for only “smart” people being able to vote. He kept grouching about how all the “dumb” people and “lazy people who want gubmint handouts” got into this mess by voting Obama into office.
Then he went one step further by saying that the STATES should decide who should be able to vote and who shouldn’t.
So anyway, that’s how I found out what next week’s repuglican talking points are going to be. First I hear it on Bortz, (LimpBalls probably said it first — but I’d rather eat glass than listen to him); then in a few days you’re going to start hearing it everywhere.
A fine example is scout’s comment above.
pogo
July 11th, 2012
4:58 pm
This coming from a man (Jay) who supports the Obama admininstration and his trolish Home-Land Security director Napoletano who is doing things far more frightening and intrusive on our personnal rights and liberty in the name of “Home Land Security” than this bill ever will.
For that matter, if we have to produce these documents just to get a license then shouldn’t we have to produce them (or a drivers license) to vote? The validation of a persons right to vote in this country is far more important than a persons wish to drive a car, don’t you think? Of course large numbers of Obama’s base don’t even know who their parents are much less be able to get a birth certificate. And we all know that they probably won’t have a social security card because they are either illegal or have never worked. Or are they issuing them at birth nowadays?
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
4:59 pm
E. Cat — “a great slogan for the Felines United (FU) party!”
Indeed! I hadn’t considered that you might particularly enjoy that phrase!
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 11th, 2012
5:00 pm
Psssst TGT – All those Governors took Bail Out Money in order to balance their budgets…….
Sorry.
Jay
July 11th, 2012
5:00 pm
After reading Pogo, I have no idea why black and Hispanic voters might feel unwelcome in his chosen political party.
No idea whatsoever.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
5:01 pm
D. DoRight — “OMG — seems Scout has been listening to that lunatic Bortz again, (as was I). Bortz was on this morning trying to advocate for only “smart” people being able to vote”
Mr. Boortz is no longer an issue. The day of he ACA decision, I heard him say that as soon as his retirement is done and his affairs are wrapped up, he and his wife are leaving the country.
One wonders if there’s anything we can do to help with that.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
5:03 pm
Jay — “After reading Pogo, I have no idea why black and Hispanic voters might feel unwelcome in his chosen political party.”
Maybe they just haven’t had the benefit of Pogo’s message being brought to them in the places where they live.
Perhaps we could help Pogo arrange some personal speaking appearances in such neighborhoods. How about that, Pogo?
Moderate Line
July 11th, 2012
5:05 pm
This driver license issue brings up some key points. This is pretty much how the Canadian Health Care System works. Wait. Wait. Wait. Unless you are dying.
Also, the federal government has the right to come up with whatever requirements it wants for ID’s for flying under the interstate commerce act.
It is interesting to me how Republicans can come up with a new requirement but yet expect to cut funding at the same time.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
July 11th, 2012
5:06 pm
debbie @ 4:57,
They are just getting their talking points from the RaangeRover lady at a recent Romney fundraiser in The Hamptons.
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/09/madam_range_rover_and_the_nails_ladies/
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
5:07 pm
pogo
Guess you have bigotry on everything. From your rhetoric to your potato salad.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
5:08 pm
JHM, it’s a reasonable request that I will consider.
But I think I may need a few mulligans!
(Jeez, Louise. All these damn blogging friends trying to help me clean up my act. LOL at me!)
Just checked, I’m good through 2016, so here’s to all of you Republicans standing in LONG lines for the next four years!
All hail Nathan Deal!
Jay
July 11th, 2012
5:09 pm
East Cobb, they’ll accept a passport, military ID or state-issued ID that meets REAL ID standards. That’s about it.
josef
July 11th, 2012
5:11 pm
I just love it when two people I don’t much care for go at it…I don’t have to take sides and can just sit back and enjoy the school-girl cat fight…
josef
July 11th, 2012
5:13 pm
DDR
Hey! How’s life…that was sure a long line at Whole Foods today, wasn’t it…?
godless heathen
July 11th, 2012
5:14 pm
Prior to these new laws all of the Drivers License Whatevers were closed on Mondays. And to meet the demand they are now open on…uh, uh.. you mean they are still closed on Mondays?
They are open on Saturdays so that Republicans can theirs without missing work.
josef
July 11th, 2012
5:15 pm
BOTH
No IRISH potatoes in the salad! Only Idaho whites…
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
5:15 pm
josef
Welcome to the Occupation
July 11th, 2012
5:16 pm
Absolute contempt of the ruling elite in this state for the citizenry. Bloated drawling pus-bags that pass for “leaders”.
TGT
July 11th, 2012
5:17 pm
Psssst, Debbie: Apples and Oranges (if what you say is even true, evidence?). Pssst: The lib states took federal money as well, and yet…
Example: Texas, which, over the years has instituted a number of free-market economic reforms, leads the nation in net creation of jobs with 410,400 between May 2007 and May 2012. In the meantime, 41 states have yet to reach their pre-recession job levels. California, for instance, has lost 891,200 since the recession started in 2007.
Ahem
July 11th, 2012
5:17 pm
Connect the dots, dolts. Deal = republican; republican = con; con = conservative; conservative = not liberal; Voila!!! It is Bush’s fault, right? Oh waterboy…
godless heathen
July 11th, 2012
5:18 pm
The REAL Deal Gov with the REAL ID Driver’s License program.
I’m out.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
5:19 pm
No IRISH potatoes in the salad! Only Idaho whites…
Yukon golds.
Not as waxy as reds and not as mealy as Idahos
josef
July 11th, 2012
5:20 pm
TGT
Texas is second in population, it would stand to reason, would it not, that it should rank pretty high in the “net creation of jobs?”
josef
July 11th, 2012
5:23 pm
K’CHAK
That was a joke to BOTH relative to pogo’s racist potato salad…
But, I agree with you on the choice for potato salad and the reasons why…and boil whole with the skins on for better flavor and consistency….
DannyX
July 11th, 2012
5:25 pm
Wow! Watch this blunder by the teleprompter candidate. “End of quote,” LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ubsRRAADTg&feature=player_embedded
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
5:26 pm
That was a joke to BOTH relative to pogo’s racist potato salad…
Yes, I understood that and yes leave the skins on, and no cut the potatoes in uniform pieces to insure even cooking.
TGT
July 11th, 2012
5:29 pm
No josef, it does not stand to reason. CA is more populous than TX, and yet trails in net job creation (in the given time period) by over 1.3 million.
hnbc
July 11th, 2012
5:30 pm
Just another one of Bush’s (or, probably Cheney’s) processes that will make us safer! NOT.
Actually, just another way to take away a few more liberties. Why did we rolled over and play dead every time Bush/Cheney said doing this or that or the other will make you safer. No it won’t.
We don’t live in a safe world. We’ve been very fortunate in the US that we’ve not had attack after attack that many other countries live with daily. Giving up our liberty is not gonna keep those attacks from happening if someone wants to come in and attack. Or, attack from inside. We probably have more to fear from home-grown terrorists than any outsiders.
Jay
July 11th, 2012
5:31 pm
In addition, a large percentage of jobs created in Texas have come because the state was wise enough under the leadership of Rick Perry to locate itself above huge reserves of oil and natural gas.
If that’s evidence of economic brilliance, the Iranians and Iraqis are freaking geniuses.
Jackie
July 11th, 2012
5:31 pm
Wonder if the motivation behind those laws were formulated with the thought in mind that all this would make us safer and/or give us the impression our elected representatives had “our” best interest at heart?
Joseph
July 11th, 2012
5:32 pm
DEAL with it libbies!!!! We have to deal with the intrusion of Obamacare. Ya’ll can DEAL with this…. I have no problem with it by the way….
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
5:35 pm
Jay at 5:31, hysterical how you always expose these Fox News talking points!
If they want a marriage license for Georgia women to drive, I think they should ask our GOP friends for proof of a vasectomy!
DannyX
July 11th, 2012
5:39 pm
Georgia Republicans? Economic brilliance? Gov DEAL with this…
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/news/economy/1106/gallery.states_by_gdp_slowest_growing_state_economies/10.html
tireofit
July 11th, 2012
5:39 pm
It must be confusing to be a republican!
Don't Forget
July 11th, 2012
5:41 pm
Scout, the Voting Rights Act? May not be in the constitution but it’s still the law of the land and certainly implies a general right to vote.
TGT
July 11th, 2012
5:44 pm
In addition, a large percentage of jobs created in Texas have come because the state was wise enough under the leadership of Rick Perry to locate itself above huge reserves of oil and natural gas.
Hey, at least they’re willing to go and get it. CA is rich with oil reserves as well (see fig. 9) (third behind TX and AK, with just over half as much as TX), and well, the numbers speak for themselves. As for all of those other GOP led states…
TGT
July 11th, 2012
5:46 pm
Is that hysterical JamVet? (Nothing I’ve mentioned comes from FOX. You really need to find another boogie man.)
josef
July 11th, 2012
5:47 pm
TGT
I am aware of that, and it speaks VERY poorly for California, but at the same time, it does not mean that Texas is doing any more than it should be…it doesn’t make it outstanding….North Dakota is number one, Texas fourth
http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/study-finds-n-d-first-in-job-growth/article_90d2407e-73d2-11e1-8331-0019bb2963f4.html
That’s the more rational look at the statistical breakdown…
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
5:47 pm
As for all of those other GOP led states…
US unemployment rate – 8.1%
Georgia unemployment rate – 9%
Yep, I’m convinced. Lets all go con!
poison pen
July 11th, 2012
5:48 pm
If your standing in line for 4 to 5 hours it’s because your in the line to the Womens John.
It’s interesting that 25% of Dems supported the id bill.
poison pen
July 11th, 2012
5:50 pm
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
5:35 pm
Jay at 5:31, hysterical how you always expose these Fox News talking points!
If they want a marriage license for Georgia women to drive, I think they should ask our GOP friends for proof of a vasectomy!
JamVet, I have one, would you like to see it?
DannyX
July 11th, 2012
5:51 pm
California? 10th fastest growing economy.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2012/news/economy/1206/gallery.fastest-growing-states/10.html
josef
July 11th, 2012
5:52 pm
K’Chak
Don’t cut the potatoes for mine, I don’t want that uniformity…some firm chunks, some to all but puree for the binding…skin while still whole and then with the whole boiled eggs, hand “smash-crumble” I like mine “chunky”
Don't Forget
July 11th, 2012
5:52 pm
Interesting. So 2 of the top 10 states for business are in the bottom 10 states for growth with one at the very bottom. Who’d a thunk it? “lol”
TM
July 11th, 2012
5:52 pm
Its now going to be harder to get a diver’s license than to get an Id to vote, Sounds like the government is trying to suppress the right to drive where is the ACLU
Don't Forget
July 11th, 2012
5:53 pm
Pogo – “We have met the enemy and he is us”
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
5:54 pm
Of course large numbers of Obama’s base don’t even know who their parents are much less be able to get a birth certificate. And we all know that they probably won’t have a social security card because they are either illegal or have never worked.
Just Damn… And to think the same poster will say all kinds of stupid sh*t about Jackson and/or Sharpton. Just Damn…
Jay
July 11th, 2012
5:55 pm
As for all of those other GOP led states…
You mean like Georgia, with its 8.9 percent unemployment rate?
“CA is rich with oil reserves as well .. with just over half as much as TX)”
So you’re saying the oil boom has had twice the positive impact on Texas as it has in California?
josef
July 11th, 2012
5:56 pm
TGT
More important is the unemployment rate….
Texas came in number 20 there…
http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm/
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
5:56 pm
Interesting. So 2 of the top 10 states for business are in the bottom 10 states for growth with one at the very bottom. Who’d a thunk it? “lol”
When you’re at the bottom, there’s only one direction to go.
willydoit?
July 11th, 2012
5:56 pm
“You got any ID??”
“Bout what?”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
6:00 pm
Of course large numbers of Obama’s base don’t even know who their parents are much less be able to get a birth certificate. And we all know that they probably won’t have a social security card because they are either illegal or have never worked.
And we all know what’s in their shopping carts ’cause well, you just can’t keep your eyes on your own paper.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
6:03 pm
pen, is that your version of would you like to come over and see my etchings?
LOL!
Billybob
July 11th, 2012
6:03 pm
bookman and the leftists found a new boogeyman today people……wreaks of desparation, which is what hussein and his handlers are feeling at the moment…..proving who you are for a driver’s license or to vote is a price most citizens will pay……unless you are a democratic politician or liberal journalist beholdened to that political ilk…..it does a body good……nice day libs
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
6:04 pm
Well well well
Appears that it isn’t just Obama who loves and uses the teleprompter……..
Let’s all watch how well Romney uses it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ubsRRAADTg&feature=player_embedded
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
6:06 pm
Wreaks of desparation?
I don’t think that phrase means what you think it means.
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
6:08 pm
I don’t think that phrase means what you think it means.
I doubt he means to think.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
6:09 pm
WHAT?
Every politician of note since and including Ronald Reagan has used a teleprompter?
That’s it!
I’m moving to Singapore!
Seriously, the cons are so pathetically desperate that only in their demented parallel reality was it ever an issue..
There’s one reason above all others that President Obama uses a teleprompter in delivering most of his speeches: he’s good at it.
Ronald Reagan was the same way. He was more at ease in reading his speech off the dual screens of a teleprompter than looking up and down at a speech text on his lectern
Not so, George W. Bush. He often got that nervous, deer-in-the-headlights look when giving an address from a teleprompter. He would seem stiff and ill-at-ease. He did not convey a sense of understanding.
“He preferred using large index cards,” said his one-time White House Press Secretary Ari Fleisher, “plus I think he was just more comfortable with the cards.”
It’s definitely a finely honed skill to deliver a speech from a teleprompter (seen in the top right corner of the above picture from Mr. Obama’s speech today in Columbus, Ohio). It takes as much if not more focus or concentration than reading a paper copy.
LOL at George…
pogo
July 11th, 2012
6:11 pm
Around 40% of the US corn crop is now going to “green” ethanol production. The Midwest is in a terrible drought and projected corn production numbers from there are falling daily. Farmers have been getting rich and are getting subsidies to produce corn for ethanol instead of food. What do you think is going to happen to food prices and gasoline prices if the US corn production falls because of drought this year? And the government is now talking about increasing the ethanol content of gasoline to 15% instead of 10%. This is just another case of government intervention that is going to cost everyone of us dearly and on the world stage it will decrease the amount of food available for consumption.
And I see the AJC just put out an article about energy prices going up. Obama said that his energy policy would increase energy prices for the citizens of this country. By using his EPA as a bludgeon he is now forcing coal burning plants to shut down which will do nothing but increase the costs of cooling and heating our homes. At least in that one instance, Obama was truthful about the impact of his policies for Americans. His environmental policies are increasing the price of energy for the us and the cruel reality of his skewed and unreal liberal ideology are about to come home to every last one of us. Get ready to pay bigtime people.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
6:11 pm
wreaks of desparation
Brilliant, billybob, brilliant!
At least you got the middle word right!!!
(Did you sleep through English class? LOL.)
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
6:11 pm
The reign of Spain falls mainly on the plane.
Thomas
July 11th, 2012
6:16 pm
I agree fully with all of you.
Now- I would like everyone to vote yes that a fetus is a person on day 72 hour 3.
That LLCs and S Corps are persons and Corporations in green energy are persons day 72 hour 4
That Obamacare and Romneycare are actually the same bill
and lastly gays who marry should not suffer through any marriage penatly taxes
pls affirm
thank you
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
6:17 pm
josef @ 5:56
That is not fair. You know you were not supposed to look at the entire picture. Just what was presented to you
How dare you think and not just take what was provided
td
July 11th, 2012
6:21 pm
Jay,
Get you PC fired up. I am about to give you a heads up for a weeks worth of material in the next couple weeks.
Just finished a Hart foundation poll. After taking this Democratic poll I can most confidently announce that within the next couple weeks the Obama Campaign will be trying to attack Romney for wanting to do away with Medicare and Social Security to balance the budget and give tax cuts to the rich.
TGT
July 11th, 2012
6:22 pm
Jay, you know exactly what I mean. I hold GOP led TX up as a job creator; you imply that it is due to their natural resources; I note that (liberal) CA has similar resources, yet stinks at job creation.
What I mean, of course, is that TX job creation may/may not be due to its natural resources, but even if it is, CA certainly has not taken the same advantages.
BTW: The metrics used to determine the best job creating states:
Cost of Doing Business (350)
Workforce (350)
Quality of Life (350)
Infrastructure & Transportation (325)
Economy (325)
Education (225)
Technology & Innovation (225)
Business Friendliness (200)
Access to Capital (100)
Cost of Living (50)
G Mare
July 11th, 2012
6:26 pm
Kam & Jam re reign on Spain:
Love from this English major.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
6:26 pm
…Romney for wanting to do away with Medicare and Social Security to balance the budget and give tax cuts to the rich.
Excellent.
And the truth shall set you free…
F. Sinkwich
July 11th, 2012
6:30 pm
A federal regulation the lib ilks don’t like?
This is a first.
josef
July 11th, 2012
6:31 pm
BOTH
“How dare you think and not just take what was provided”
I keep trying…I’m getting better at it…
“Hello. My name is Josef. And I am a thinker. This is my 10th month of oblivion…”
F. Sinkwich
July 11th, 2012
6:34 pm
Pogo, ethanol subsidies should be killed. Dead. Kaput.
Jay
July 11th, 2012
6:37 pm
“Pogo, ethanol subsidies should be killed. Dead. Kaput.”
Fine by me.
Jay
July 11th, 2012
6:39 pm
td, interestingly Hart also called ME yesterday, in my guise as Joe Citizen, but I had an appointment and couldn’t spend the time answering their questions.
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
6:40 pm
td
No need to waste your time taking a survey to know that both sides will come with crap as the election draws near…….
Let me see: Gods, Guns, Gays, Abortion. Wonder if in some form or fashion will Republicans attempt to infuse these issues before the election?
History says they will and I do not need to take survey
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
carlosgvv
July 11th, 2012
6:40 pm
The Bush Depression is NOT at the level of the 1930’s Great Depression.
But it’s getting closer every day.
Martin the Calvinist
July 11th, 2012
6:44 pm
Thank the good Lord almighty I’m not a neo con, I’m for making sure that legal citizens only get driver’s licenses but seriously, can you say gov’t intrusion…..
I’m really beginning to believe Republicans don’t represent my ideals anymore…..
Democrats never have……
td
July 11th, 2012
6:47 pm
Jay
July 11th, 2012
6:39 pm
td, interestingly Hart also called ME yesterday, in my guise as Joe Citizen, but I had an appointment and couldn’t spend the time answering their questions.
It was a pretty long poll (took about 25 minutes). The first part was the usual questions about what statistical categories you fit in and who will you vote for and how likely are you to vote. It then switched to about 20 or 30 questions about Medicare and Social Security and how you about the programs, their future, who would do a better job protecting them and should they be changed.
Don't Forget
July 11th, 2012
6:48 pm
Pogo, if you don’t like ethanol subsidies, and I don’t either then you should write to Grover Norquist and tell him. You see, ole Grover originally didn’t like them either but he now says that since they are in place, removing them would be a tax hike and anyone voting for that would be violating their tax hike pledge.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
6:51 pm
G Mare
Martin the Calvinist
July 11th, 2012
6:51 pm
What I agree with Jay on more than one topic, oh my what in the world is going on…..Yes, end all ethanol subsidies!
F. Sinkwich
July 11th, 2012
6:57 pm
“You see, ole Grover originally didn’t like them either but he now says that since they are in place, removing them would be a tax hike and anyone voting for that would be violating their tax hike pledge.”
Got link?
Mike
July 11th, 2012
7:05 pm
If you want a state ID card to for the purposes of voting, do you have to stand at the motor vehicle office, so under staffed right, there are 4 hour waits now?!!!!
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
7:06 pm
What would be interesting (and side-splittingly humorous) would be to see how many other MUCH BIGGER subsidies the fiscal conservatives (HUGE LOL) would also be in favor of eliminating.
The BIG FOUR: financial, utilities – gas & electric. telecommunications, and oil, gas & pipelines, accounting for 56% of all taxpayer funded subsidies.
BIG OIL alone gets a staggering $4Billion per year…
Don't Forget
July 11th, 2012
7:07 pm
Sink,
Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) is pushing a vote on an amendment Tuesday that would end ethanol subsidies and eliminate tariffs on foreign supplies of the biofuel. That would allow companies to use sugar-based Brazilian ethanol, which is cheaper than the domestic corn-based variety, though presents environmental challenges.
Ethanol is a key national issue for the GOP because of the importance of Iowa’s early caucus to the presidential primary. Former Gov. Jon Huntsman (R-Utah) is skipping the state, he has said, because his opposition to the subsidies is toxic in the state. The issue has split the Republican Party, with free market advocates and deficit hawks pushing for elimination of the subsidies and corn-state politicians fighting back.
The conservative power broker Grover Norquist has battled Coburn, arguing that ending the handouts is equivalent to increasing taxes, meaning that candidates who signed a no-new-taxes pledge would be breaking their word. He has charged that Coburn “lied his way into office.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/13/koch-brothers-ethanol-subsidies-grover-norquist_n_876430.html
I don’t make stuff up, sink.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
7:09 pm
Got link?
Says the guy who has never, ever provided the very first one in his entire blogging life here!
Even though he’s been asked many times.
Absolutely friggin’ hysterical…
getalife
July 11th, 2012
7:09 pm
Did they end big oil welfare?
josef
July 11th, 2012
7:11 pm
I refuse to get a state ID card. The federal government of the United States of America gave me a passport promising their protection of me wherever in the world I might go. If that ain’t enough, then screw ‘em all and I’ll just stay home and cuss the whole d*mned lot…enough is enough.
My residency in Georgia? If my Atlanta Public Schools ID and tax receipts don’t establish that, then screw the lot of them.
The next thing you know, we’ll be being asked to show the papers of our great-grandparents to prove our “purity.”
F. Sinkwich
July 11th, 2012
7:12 pm
How about a quote, DF?
Huffpo spin don’t count.
Huffpo is a lib ilk commie lying’ rag.
But you knew that, but quoted it anyway.
Go figure.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
7:13 pm
Cities are going bankrupt while the gop vote for the thirty third time on a dog and pony show.
Vote out the gop.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
7:15 pm
We have sugarcane farmers and we should make our own ethanol.
coburn is selling them out.
F. Sinkwich
July 11th, 2012
7:15 pm
“Says the guy who has never, ever provided the very first one in his entire blogging life here!”
Sez Jammie.
I most often provide the quote, but….
Lie anyway.
Rightwing Troll
July 11th, 2012
7:18 pm
“And I see the AJC just put out an article about energy prices going up. Obama said that his energy policy would increase energy prices for the citizens of this country. ”
Just like the fact that Insurance costs have been rising since long before we elected a kenyan-marxist… so have energy prices. GA power charges us for the cost of plants yet to built… look to your elected state government for the cause, it’s not Obama’s fault Georgia elects and re-elects snake oil salesmen, scalawags, and scoundrels…
F. Sinkwich
July 11th, 2012
7:18 pm
“Cities are going bankrupt while the gop vote for the thirty third time…”
Please explain why the federal government should GAS.
Thanks.
G Mare
July 11th, 2012
7:22 pm
Josef @ 6:31
G Mare
July 11th, 2012
7:27 pm
Help me out here, music people. There was a song, probably some years ago, that said something about oblivion. Google was not my friend on this one.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
7:27 pm
I most often provide the quote, but….
Gosh, so do I.
“Have another nutter butter peanut butter sandwich cookie”
– Thomas Jefferson
josef
July 11th, 2012
7:29 pm
getalife
“We have sugarcane farmers and we should make our own ethanol.”
Yep.
josef
July 11th, 2012
7:37 pm
GMARE
I’m drawing a blank…for some reason it seems to be somewhere in something reggae…
G Mare
July 11th, 2012
7:37 pm
That song might have been by Concrete Blonde….
janet
July 11th, 2012
7:39 pm
If you need all this documentation to get or renew a driver’s license what do you need to buy a gun?
That Black Guy
July 11th, 2012
7:42 pm
godless heathen
July 11th, 2012
4:05 pm
Joe: If I’d known this was likely to happen the last time I renewed my license, I’d have taken my DD-214 and gotten the Veterans’ Special renewal.
I don’t know how old you are but that may not save you. They have to get everyone in before a certain date, I think its 2020.
___________________________________________________________________________
True. This time last year my license were not due to expire until 2032, after I got my motorcyle endorsement last August, they now expire in 2019.
Hey TBS and the rest of the motley misfits
Been working so much that I haven’t had time to chime in lately (daymn Obama economy), but I did check out the heresy thread from last night. You guys were chain-free.
Aquagirl had me crying (seriously, actual tears) from laughing so hard.
Ninja
July 11th, 2012
7:46 pm
Well of course, conservatives don’t have a philosophy. All they have is short term, stupid self-interest with a bunch of rhetoric and scapegoats to cover it up.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
7:50 pm
I have been pimping sugarcane ethanol for years and coburn is auditioning for a lobbyist job.
Brazil?
What about America tommy?.
He is part of the unemployment problem.
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
7:50 pm
Duh !
Why would residents of a state that wants border control be upset about knowing who the state is issuing ID to ?
Come on Jay. You can do better.
I could suggest a compromise to your concern though, have the Feds enforce the immigration laws – meaning stop giving exceptions to high school kids, college grads, and everyone else that the dems think will vote for them and we can relax the Ga ID requirements.
Someone needs to know who is coming into the country, if the Feds wont do it the states will have to.
Either way the dems are not gonna just give away the very rights that Americans fought to retain in countless wars and conflicts.
Citizenship means something, its bigger than ensuring votes for the libs
janet
July 11th, 2012
7:53 pm
So if this is a federal mandate, will a US passport be sufficient?. It is issued by the US Passport office which is part of the federal government.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
7:58 pm
janet…. http://www.dds.ga.gov/secureid/accepteddocs.aspx
Billybob
July 11th, 2012
8:01 pm
spelling aside the intellectually superior get my point…..ignore at your ilk’s own peril this november…..some people on this blog seem to have no other life than liberal leftist lies…..fun to see and watch this nov as your ideology is destroyed and proven failed logic by hussein himself…..enjoy, wasted enough time here today….take care political hack and hackees….
Rome if you want to
July 11th, 2012
8:02 pm
Well, if this is the case, I’m conservative and I’ll speak out against it….but out of curiosity, was this a stand alone bill, or was it attached to another bill?
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
8:03 pm
janet, it depends on how ya read the rules….the dmv version online i read lacked the proper punctuation and syntax for me to discern …
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
8:05 pm
I could suggest a compromise to your concern though, have the Feds enforce the immigration laws – meaning stop giving exceptions to high school kids, college grads, and everyone else that the dems think will vote for them and we can relax the Ga ID requirements.
I could suggest that you visit Sherman and Mr Peabody and convince them that you need their wayback machine and go back to the mid 80s and express your poutrage over St. Ronnie-of-the-RayGun’s 1986 amnesty.
I’m not buying your indignation, cause that ship sailed a long, long, long time ago.
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
8:06 pm
janet and buying a gun in ga requires an ID, getting a CCW permit is pretty extensive in bg check…but no training required
jconservative
July 11th, 2012
8:07 pm
“If you need all this documentation to get or renew a driver’s license what do you need to buy a gun?”
Money. Just money!
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
8:09 pm
I could suggest that you visit Sherman and Mr Peabody and convince them that you need their wayback machine
that used to be my favorite part of the “show”….go figure?
i haven’t thought about it in years if not decades
td
July 11th, 2012
8:09 pm
Buying a beer in Georgia requires a photo id.
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
8:09 pm
I could suggest a compromise to your concern though, have the Feds enforce the immigration laws – meaning stop giving exceptions to high school kids, college grads, and everyone else that the dems think will vote for them and we can relax the Ga ID requirements.
Don’t let something like facts get in the way of ideological ranting.
http://cbp.gov/xp/cgov/border_security/border_patrol/usbp_statistics/
Statistics for Border Patrol apprehensions beginning as far back as 1925.
——————
Conditions on the border have changed dramatically since the last national strategy, putting pressure on the agency to adapt to a new landscape. An unprecedented hiring boom more than doubled the number of agents to 21,000 since 2004, accompanied by heavy spending on fencing, cameras, sensors and other gizmos.
At the same time, migration from Mexico has slowed significantly. Last year, the Border Patrol made 327,577 apprehensions on the Mexican border, down 80 percent from more than 1.6 million in 2000. It was the slowest year since 1971.
—————-
Today, Immigration and Customs Enforcement director John Morton announced that 396,906 people were deported during the 2011 fiscal year, the largest number in ICE’s history.
“These year-end totals indicate that we are making progress, with more convicted criminals, recent border crossers, egregious immigration law violators and immigration fugitives being removed from the country than ever before,” said Morton.
While the numbers are historic, they’re not dramatically larger than 2010 deportations, which were reported at “more than 392,000.”
As Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano alluded a few weeks ago, 55 percent of the deported immigrants — about 216,700 people — had criminal convictions (felonies or misdemeanors). Overall, the number of criminals deported has increased 89 percent since 2008.
—————-
And to think, some have the opinion that feds are not enforcing immigration laws, why don’t you try selling that to my colleague’s family.
A U.S. Border Patrol agent was killed in an ATV accident while on patrol near Fort Hancock early Friday evening, officials said Saturday.
Agent Leopoldo Cavazos Jr., 29, died in an ambulance on the way to an El Paso hospital, Border Patrol spokesman Doug Mosier said.
It sounds like a good talking point to say crap like that, but I can guarantee that people who put their lives on the line would beg to differ with the thought that we are not enforcing immigration law. I tell you what, I’ll agree to enforce more laws when you agree to pay more taxes to pay for the enforcement.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
8:10 pm
Erwin’s cat
That’s the difference between Ga. and N.C.
CCW requires a one day class with qualified instructor.
But my state of residence is Ga., so I don’t know if I can take the class.
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
8:11 pm
was this a stand alone bill, or was it attached to another bill?
The House GOP attached it to the 2005 Supplimental appropriations bill that paid for Iraq/Afghanistan.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
8:11 pm
After all the poutrage about Obama’s golf vacations… 89 hours to “repeal” Obamacare and the 1st order of business AFTER “repealing” yesterday,
JOBSGOLF!Can the conned be any more absurd….
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
8:14 pm
Kam – take the class to be safe…besides, professional instruction is always a must IMHO with something with that kind of potential…required or not
You maybe able to get a GA CCW since your a resident and carry in NC….several states have reciprocity…just check the rules
Billybob
July 11th, 2012
8:18 pm
harry reid in the senate is not bringing any house bills to the floor of the senate for a vote……that is a fact and that is the democrats doing nothing they are elected to do…..libs who deny this are liars or either completely delusional and are no different than bookman…..wither way, the rest of the country including independents and moderate dems see this and have already jumped ship…..hope all libs here stay on board…..that is all
And?
July 11th, 2012
8:22 pm
It used to be your previous driver’s license was sufficient to renew. That’s no longer the case thanks to New Mexico’s generosity.
The state has attracted illegal operators because it does not require proof of U.S. Citizenship.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
8:28 pm
cat
I haven’t decided if I even want a CCW, but I am really interested with any professional instruction I can get, for the purpose of being consistent.
My nephew as one and yes, reciprocity extends from Ga. to N.C.
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
8:32 pm
I don’t have to go back to anything Kam, I can cite Bros response, illegals are still coming in and you don’t see a need to secure the vote.
Seems that you and Bro sometimes get confused over immigration.
Arresting illegals does not mean the government is enforcing anything.
It would be like arguing that because the police arrest those with marijuana that the courts are throwing the book at them, when in fact we know they are not.
I am also sorry that for some unknown reason you fail see that there is a correlation to the fact that 93 % of the Hispanics favor Obamas immigration policies and the fact that 90% of Hispanics favor the democratic party.
Sorry guys you can say what you like it doesn’t change facts.
And if your argument is that it ain’t cool to be in favor of enforcing the law, well you are wrong in that also.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
8:33 pm
“The House GOP attached it to the 2005 Supplimental appropriations bill that paid for Iraq/Afghanistan.”
Figures.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
8:35 pm
“secure the vote”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
which 7 votes are you talking about…. or are we talking about the Republican convicted in Indiana?
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
8:35 pm
Kam – if I wasn’t stuck in the courthouse for jury duty, I’m not sure I’d have one either….i own, but since I’ve had the CCW I haven’t carried….not need. I figured it could come in handy….better to have it and not need it…but i hear the end is near
Z
July 11th, 2012
8:37 pm
Why doesn’t this surprise me. When I read of these new hoops you have to go through to get your license I thought to my self this sounds like some Republican politicians in Washington wanting to suppress the votes. These snakes in the grass Republican politicians, every time you turn your back they want to take a bite of you. Vote smart come election time, and do your research.
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
8:42 pm
Arresting illegals does not mean the government is enforcing anything.
Well damn, the next thing you’ll tell me is that water is dry. I guess you completely missed the part about RECORD deportations. I guess you completely ignore the fact that deportations have increased under Obama year after year. What about the fact that despite those increases, there are serious vacancies on the federal bench. I’m guessing you don’t realize that when the border patrol apprehends, or arrests, a border crosser, that person is not allowed to enter the US except for certain circumstances and they are deported.
Better yet, what do YOU consider enforcing immigration laws? Tell me what you think/see/feel/know is the golden plan.
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
8:43 pm
So if this is a federal mandate, will a US passport be sufficient?. It is issued by the US Passport office which is part of the federal government.
Janet, it’s my understanding that a valid passport can be substituted for the birth certificate.
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
8:44 pm
Sorry guys you can say what you like it doesn’t change facts.
Whenever you begin to start citing actual facts regarding immigration, please let me know. You’re not talking to some “Joe the Plumber” here. I’d gather that I probably know more about immigration than most any other person on this blog.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
8:44 pm
Are you cons for regulations?
You seem to be flexible on your ideology of tax cuts and no regulations.
When did you change?
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
8:46 pm
“Can the conned be any more absurd…”
Keep, yes but we keep getting outdone by the left.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
8:47 pm
“Can the conned be any more absurd…”
Four more months.
Don't Forget
July 11th, 2012
8:49 pm
I think the Mayans may have been right.
Think about it. I think the date is 12/21/12. That will be about 6 weeks after the election. If Obama wins that will be just enough time for the number of republican meltdowns to reach critical mass and start a chain reaction. And it might start right here on this blog.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
8:49 pm
When do we see willard’s papers del?
Is he a leader of a drug cartel?
What is he hiding?
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
8:51 pm
Bro,
Why dowe have to this over and over.
Again you may be an agent or whatever you do with the department but it doesn’t mean you know anything more than you are suppose to stop the crossing or entry.
You have no policy input and you have no control over what Obama decides to exempt from the law. Yes you may be kicking them out but you are only keeping those out that Obama tells you to.
Let’s get off the I am a border agent so I know everything kick. I told you that I respect what you do but you certainly cannot defend selective enforcement. And you cannot defend Obamas policies by citing who you threw back out.
Give me some stats on who you let in, to remain, via Obamas policies, then we can talk about Obamas immigration policy
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
8:52 pm
Hmmmmmmmm… No signs of immigration law being enforced around here.
In recent years, immigration attorneys say, concern about foreign gangs entering the U.S. has prompted Washington to delay or deny green cards, or legal permanent residency, to some applicants with tattoos.
The tattoo checks have ensnared scores of immigrants—mostly from Latin America—even though they have no criminal conviction. The denials are based on a section of immigration law that justifies “inadmissibility” on national-security grounds, including possible affiliation with criminal organizations.
In the fiscal year ended September 2006, the State Department refused immigrant visas to only two people it had “reason to believe” sought to “solely, principally or incidentally” engage in organized crime. In fiscal 2010, the latest year available, the number had jumped to 82 people.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tattoo-checks-trip-up-visas.html
Who knew that tattoos were being checked during the visa application process. Things that make you say, hmmmmmmmm…….
td
July 11th, 2012
8:52 pm
Don’t Forget
July 11th, 2012
8:49 pm
And what do you think will happen on this blog if Romney wins? Would we see the worlds best pity party, would it be the angry mob or maybe the excuse party of the world. I am sure there would be “its all because of the racist” crowd.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
8:54 pm
mama,
What makes you think you know anything about immigration policy?
getalife
July 11th, 2012
8:58 pm
td,
Who are you?
Who who who who.
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
8:59 pm
Tell u what getalife,
I will admiti know nothing when you show me that there are no people who are not citizens of this country, crossing the border without consent.
When you show me that I will also admit that there is no need for proper ID when you vote.
Deal ?
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
9:00 pm
Mama Says
First thing you should know is that Obama’s policy only helps those already here. If they leave and try to come back, they don’t get the benefit of Obama’s help. The reason we have to do this again and again is because I refuse to let people expouse stuff, regarding immigration, that has no part of reality whatsoever. I don’t know what most other people do here, but I take great pride in my job and the efforts that my colleagues and I put into it every day.
You claim that laws are not being enforced. I proved you wrong. Why not just claim that selective laws are not being enforced? That’s what’s got you peeved. Don’t make blanket statements because I will prove you wrong. I don’t defend Obama’s policies, and those policies have little to no bearing on my job. Your beef is with ICE.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/couple-stuck-mexico-over-immigration-problem/nPXhb/
If you have a problem, then phrase your dislikes here in that direction. I don’t defend politicians, but I will stand up for my fellow officers. It doesn’t matter if it’s you, Jay, or any other poster here. If you don’t like it, then don’t bring up immigration in a manner that disparages those on the street level.
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
9:01 pm
“I’d gather that I probably know more about immigration than most any other person on this blog.”
As far as I’m concerned that could very well be true. My experience was having to hire H1B’s during the 90’s when that mess began. I was in the I.T. professional service business. I was exposed to the immigration process again with my wife’s immigration. We met professionally as she was hired and came here on an H1B visa. From my experience it’s an expensive broken system that’s been in need of fixing for far too long. I believe we need to fix our existing system before we start putting illegal aliens regardless of their circumstances ahead of those who’ve going through the system legally. To do otherwise would be extremely unfair to those who’ve been waiting. It shouldn’t be that difficult a problem to fix but the government continues to fail in doing so.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
9:01 pm
“I will admiti know nothing”
Thank you.
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
9:03 pm
Why by the way is it so bad to require proof of citizenship ?
We all know illegals are coming in. Guess what, the amount reflects the economies of the exit country as compared to our country.
When it isn’t as good here then fewer illegals come in.
How can you argue for the illegals if there are none
getalife
July 11th, 2012
9:05 pm
del,
Why didn’t you hire Americans?
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
9:07 pm
Brosephus
Do the new driver’s license
function to replace the
need for passports in
some insrances?
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
9:08 pm
Bro,
Here we are again,
Show me one time when I degraded the border officer. I didn’t.
As an officer you took offense to what your mind heard.
It’s not your fault or any others, who partake in the controls, it’s Obamas.
Your fine point request seems to be based on your own defensiveness. You know the entire immigration argument is about control. It in know way is made to defame the agents, it’s a critic of the policy, not you.
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
9:09 pm
Recon
I’ll refrain from saying what I really want to about H1B’s, but I’ll agree with you in that I think it’s a broken system in need of fixing or even outright dismantling. When you have free time, google Infosys and read up on the lawsuit against them in regards to H1B workers.
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
9:13 pm
“Why didn’t you hire Americans?”
getalife,
I hired a lot of Americans. We had more projects than we had skilled people to put out on contracts, so we had to do off shore hiring. The dot com bust changed that but unfortunately it produced a condition where American kids aren’t pursuing the computer sciences like they used to.
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
9:13 pm
If I, a stupid redneck republican from the back woods know that illegal entry is taking place why do you guys act as if it isn’t ?
If it were not all these kids. Who are born in the country to illegals, would not be born in this country to illegals.
Why is this hardto understand.
It’s like not acknowledging you are gonna sink because its only water getting in the boat.
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
9:15 pm
frog
Some states have enhanced driver’s licenses that can be used to cross land borders in lieu of having a passport. The states currently issuing them are all along the Canadian border. If I remember correctly, part of the deal with the Real ID was to incorporate them as a form of border crossing ID for travel within the Western Hemisphere in close proximity to the US without having to carry a passport. As it stands now, if you live in the US and work in Canada, you need a passport or passport card to go back and forth, except for those who’s states issue the enhanced ID’s.
Mama
Show me one time where you degraded the politicians. That’s the point I’m trying to make with you. Words on a screen are nothing more than words on a screen. YOU might be talking about policy, but that’s not the case with everyone else. Contrary to what people think, when you blame “government”, that “government” isn’t limited to the elected people in DC unless you specifically say as such. I am just as much a part of the federal government as any elected person in DC.
I don’t sit in DC and write policy, but if I find a trend in immigration, you best believe I have the ability to write something up to address what I’ve observed that ends up becoming policy. And, yes, I am defensive because I’m tired of the broad brushed swipes, whether you think they are not is irrelevant to me.
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
9:17 pm
“American kids aren’t pursuing the computer sciences like they used to”
Even though I have a business degree, we need more kids getting computer science and engineering degrees without a doubt.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
9:20 pm
I don’t have to go back to anything Kam, I can cite Bros response, illegals are still coming in and you don’t see a need to secure the vote.
I mentioned nothing about the “need to secure the vote.” This is what’s known as a “strawman” argument. You’ve created a position that I did not take and you are tearing it down.
Seems that you and Bro sometimes get confused over immigration.
No, in my business I have worked side by side with IAs for the past 30 years and neither party said one single solitary word about this issue until about 4 years ago when conservatives started jumping up and down foaming at the mouth.
Arresting illegals does not mean the government is enforcing anything.
Again — “strawman” as I never said anything about arresting illegals, but I see that SoCo/Bro is pwning you about deportation.
It would be like arguing that because the police arrest those with marijuana that the courts are throwing the book at them, when in fact we know they are not.
You really suck at analogy.
I am also sorry that for some unknown reason you fail see that there is a correlation to the fact that 93 % of the Hispanics favor Obamas immigration policies and the fact that 90% of Hispanics favor the democratic party.
Another “strawman” argument as I haven’t said anything about voting tendencies. Did you perchance go to your local seed and feed store and buy multiple bales of straw?
Sorry guys you can say what you like it doesn’t change facts.
I have yet to see you display any “facts.”
And if your argument is that it ain’t cool to be in favor of enforcing the law, well you are wrong in that also.
Again — “strawman”
Why don’t you ask me what my argument is before responding to what you want me to say?
getalife
July 11th, 2012
9:20 pm
del,
You did it for cheaper labor.
Brosephus™ (B)
July 11th, 2012
9:22 pm
Y’all have fun. It’s check out time here.
Catch y’all later…
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
9:22 pm
Bro in one of our last arguments I pointed out that I too work in government. I don’t think of you as “government” per se because to me we follow the policies of our bosses.
The government is those who we elect, the policy makers. It’s not you and me, we are employees of the government.
And like you I too can write something up but we both know that goes as far as the leadership wants it to.
From this point on, never think that I am attacking you personally, I am not
G Mare
July 11th, 2012
9:23 pm
Peter, Paul,& Mary – Too Much of Nothin’. ” Say Hello to Valerie, Say Hello to Marion, Send them all My Salary on the Waters of OBLIVION.”
Oh, I am gratified when the old brain can dredge up what I think I remember. Yah for me!
stands for decibels
July 11th, 2012
9:24 pm
Looks like that wasn’t idle speculation I’d been indulging in when Jay had that Libor post up, and i was wondering how municipalities had gotten screwed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/2012/07/11/gJQAN3V7dW_story.html
Dozens of states, cities and other government entities are exploring whether they lost money because of the alleged manipulation of a crucial benchmark used to set interest rates on hundreds of trillions of dollars worth of loans and investments.
Baltimore City is leading a federal lawsuit against the group of big banks that set Libor, the London interbank offered rate, accusing it of conspiring to suppress the benchmark. The banks named in the case include JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Barclays, CitiBank and Deutsche Bank.
In a lawsuit filed in federal court in Manhattan, Baltimore said the banks kept Libor artificially low during the financial crisis and its immediate aftermath, robbing the city of millions of dollars in returns on investments such as interest-rate swaps.
/drive-by
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
9:26 pm
Brosephus
Thanks.
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
9:28 pm
Kam,
You seem to have mastered the ability to argue without saying anything.
If I say something and you oppose it with your condescension then it is fair to assume that you think that what I said is wrong.
Instead of straw man comments show me how I am wrong.
Do the Hispanics approve of democrats at about the same rate that they approve of easier immigration ?
Are illegals entering the country ? Can they vote if IDis not shown ?
Defeat my statements, you love to sit back and snipe. Why don’t you make the points to the contrary.
I am waiting
josef
July 11th, 2012
9:28 pm
GMARE
That’s it…!!! I kept looking for the title “on the waters of oblivion…” And shame on me…one of my favorites of theirs…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Foxa40Exjk
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
9:31 pm
“You did it for cheaper labor.”
getalife,
You don’t know what you’re talking about but that’s not untypical. It does mean that having any meaningful or cordial discussion with you isn’t a possibility.
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
9:32 pm
Mama says Kam the snide
sniper …new title?
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
9:34 pm
By the way Kam,
Just because u don’t get it doesn’t mean the analogy sucks.
If you were in law enforcement you would know that marijuana cases are generally treated with a pat on the wrist. Therefore the analogy to immigration enforcement is right on.
It’s one thing to have laws against something it is another thing all together to enforce the laws with actionable punishment.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
9:35 pm
del,
I worked in that field so I do know all those jobs are gone for cheaper labor. Fact.
“For the first time in fifty years, a cargo ship left Miami directly for Cuba Wednesday, carrying a load of humanitarian supplies, officials said.”
Can I finally get some Cuban cigars?
Recon 0311 2533
July 11th, 2012
9:36 pm
Good night y’all. Taps
josef
July 11th, 2012
9:36 pm
We all benefited from the wink-wink “policy.” “They” came and now they’re “us.” They’re not going to go away and hiding our anti Latino bigotries behind a lot of posturing ain’t gonna change a thing. Get used to it and realize that illegal immigration has been going on since 1492.
ragnar danneskjold
July 11th, 2012
9:36 pm
Speaking of silent watchdogs, two developments tonight on the “Eric Holder is a criminal” front:
(1) Denise Rich has renounced her American citizenship.
(2) Chairman Ann, in tomorrow’s column, explains – in language even a leftist can understand – why thinkers are distressed about “Fast and Furious.”
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
9:37 pm
Ever notice that those who hit people on lack of facts fail to provide any facts for their own arguments
getalife
July 11th, 2012
9:39 pm
rag,
There are no thinkers on the right.
Just talking point robots.
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
9:40 pm
josef,
That argument could apply to any law couldn’t it ?
I mean think of all the popular opposition to the various laws, draft dodging, marijuana, speeding, I mean what ever it is.
josef
July 11th, 2012
9:40 pm
And once again it looks like Alley Oop has taken his paper dolls and gone back to the spelunker closet…
getalife
July 11th, 2012
9:42 pm
I did enjoy Silicon Valley.
They know how to party.
They gave away cars to come to work.
Then they gave away American jobs like del.
I believe the cons should actually think country first instead of profits first.
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
9:43 pm
Getalife,
I know who I should go to when I seek a compromising lib.
You would never repeat a tag line for the left would you
josef
July 11th, 2012
9:43 pm
MAMA
I’m not arguing theory, I’m talking reality. What I think or you think matters very little in the reality of the mess we allowed to take place and now want to posture about right and wrong…
It really sounds an awful lot like the ship ‘em back to Africa mentality to me…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
9:45 pm
You seem to have mastered the ability to argue without saying anything.
As you have virtually asserted nothing other than Hispanics will vote with the Democrats with nothing to back that up other your opinion, then there is really nothing to say
If I say something and you oppose it with your condescension then it is fair to assume that you think that what I said is wrong.
There you go with that assuming thing again
Instead of straw man comments show me how I am wrong.
Wrong about what? The voting tendencies of Hispanics? I’m not an authority on that and neither are you, but you are pulling “facts” out of your ass and presenting them as true.
Do the Hispanics approve of democrats at about the same rate that they approve of easier immigration ?
See above.
Are illegals entering the country ?
Probably, but I never asserted they weren’t. Again with the strawman. I may have been born at night, but it wasn’t last night and SoCo/Bro pwned you about deportation numbers which you continue to ignore.
Can they vote if IDis not shown ?
Curiously you seem to be skipping over the registration process.
Can you prove that illegals are currently registered to vote?
Defeat my statements, you love to sit back and snipe. Why don’t you make the points to the contrary.
You have offered up nothing to “defeat” except your opinions. It’s like trying to “defeat” a marshmallow.
I am waiting
Bully for you, but I will respond on my schedule and not yours.
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
9:47 pm
josef
The indians should offer
free passage to all non
indians to the country
of origin.
josef
July 11th, 2012
9:47 pm
It all reminds me of a bumper sticker making the rounds a while back
“If I’d have known it was going to turn out like this, I’d have picked my own d*mn cotton.”
getalife
July 11th, 2012
9:47 pm
mama,
I know the gop are a disaster waiting to happen.
Anybody but the gop and I am anticon.
You have done nothing good for the American people.
Those are my talking points.
Jack
July 11th, 2012
9:48 pm
Jesse Jackson Jr couldn’t get his license renewed.
josef
July 11th, 2012
9:48 pm
FROG
Unmentionable said, “free, hell, charge the going rate!”
josef
July 11th, 2012
9:50 pm
K’CHAK
“Curiously you seem to be skipping over the registration process.”
Picky, picky, picky…
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
9:52 pm
josef
a couple of free offers
requiring citizenship
surrenders would sure emphasize the ridiculousness of current
immigration policy.
josef
July 11th, 2012
9:56 pm
FROG
Amen.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
9:58 pm
josef
It’s one of those devil/details thingies.
G Mare
July 11th, 2012
9:58 pm
Ah, Josef, thanks for the video & spelunker closet! Snarky, yes, but have to wonder how many of us here know what that word means. I could make a list, but do not want to risk the opprobrium. Not that some of them will know what that word means. Yeah, snarky, sorry.
Love to you & Un!
And to Jam & Kam. And to a few others here. Don’t want to list in case I might leave someone out. Just have to trust that y’all know who I mean.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
10:01 pm
9) “I suspect that most people in Cincinnati would acknowledge that I’VE TRIED REAL HARD ………. ” (Democrat House for two years and Senate for four).
7) To the American people: “It’s absolutely not a tax increase !” http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/obama-campaign-its-a-penalty-not-a-tax-127721.html
6) To the American people: “Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this Presidency.”
5) To Larry King: “There has been a tendency by this administration to hide behind executive privilege.”
4) Speech to an Hispanic group: “With respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that’s just not the case ………. ”
3) To the American people: “The private sector is doing just fine.”
2) Please pass to Vladimir: “After the election I’ll have more flexibility.” http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?feature=player_embedded&v=-Czo5Vf8KZs
1) To the American electorate: “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
BINGO !!
josef
July 11th, 2012
10:03 pm
GMARE
That cro-magnon took a swipe at my “unnatural” kids one night when he was in his testosterone laced cups and I’ve had nothing good to say of his cheap self-imported self since.
bman
July 11th, 2012
10:05 pm
Snarky is a company that manufactures spark plugs ?
josef
July 11th, 2012
10:06 pm
K’CHAK
@ 9:58
Yep.
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
10:07 pm
Way to go getalife, at least you know you are partisan, make no effort at all.
Kam,
I know you wish to act like you haven’t got a clue but the Hispanic reference to voters and immigration are well known polling that has been released by most of the major polling organizations.
You seem to totally forget that anyone can walk into a polling place on election day and ask for and get a provisional ballot. anyone !
Prior to the new voting laws there was no promise that any ballot would be confirmed.
I will tell you one more thing, of course it’s antidotal which means you will ignore it, but As a cop I see how easy it is to acquire another’s identity.
There was a certain auto establishment who kept giving loans to dead people. The loans would come to light when the estates were being settled and family members would find out they owed several thousand dollars on cars their mother never bought.
After about 7 months of investigation and GBI assistance we discovered that three people in Americas Georgia were going to local cemeteries and writing down the deceased name and DOB. They then had their plant inside one of the credit agencies provide SSNs. They then sold the identities to the dealership. When illegals or others with no credit or bad credit came in wanting a car the salesman just assigned oneof these ID s to the loan.
The illegal drove away with a new car and a SSN and the salesman got his commission.
Based on that the illegally obtained SSN he illegal was Able to register to vote, collect social security and work. All under the deceased name— dead people voting, you may have heard about it.
Either way it’s a problem regardless if you libs think it is or not.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 11th, 2012
10:07 pm
Callie Thorne is on the TeeVee and is imminently more attractive to me than this blog.
Toodles.
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
10:08 pm
“cro-magnon”
hahahahahah…………. so true
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:08 pm
bman
snark plugs.
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
10:11 pm
It’s one of those fact things
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
10:12 pm
Sky about to fall out over here
Big thunder
bman
July 11th, 2012
10:12 pm
Frog .. .. Are you in marketing and sales? You really do come up with some clever lines !!!
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
10:14 pm
Chairman Ann is the neocon’s Chairman Mao.
What a buncha commies!
bman,
frog is the amphibian bomb on Jay’s blog!
One funnyassed dude, thats fo sho…
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:16 pm
bman
no. just a semi-erudite twit.
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
10:16 pm
josef,
I know you didn’t just compare illegal immigration to slavery did you ?
One was I humane brutal kidnapping into servitude the other is a response to criminals. Make no mistake that’s exactly what illegals are, criminals, that what people who violate the law are called.
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
10:16 pm
to Bro…aka Super Super
http://vimeo.com/38899453
getalife
July 11th, 2012
10:19 pm
mama need to meet some of those “criminals”.
Just good hard working people looking for a better life.
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
10:20 pm
a lil background Super
http://vimeo.com/38899453
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
10:21 pm
I have and Yes they are. But you confuse good people and law breakers. If you ever lose your ID to an illegal you will change your mind about illegals
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:23 pm
JamVet
Thanks for your support.
Mama Says
July 11th, 2012
10:24 pm
Getalife,
If that is your standard shouldn’t you allow 90% of those incarcerated, the benefit of the doubt and let them out.
bman
July 11th, 2012
10:24 pm
Janvet … You’re in the top 3 when it comes to snappy lines !!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
10:24 pm
I sure know which department’s officer I would want backing me up !!!
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/good-cop-bad-cop-police-193551343.html
josef
July 11th, 2012
10:25 pm
MAMA
Yep. Sure did. Cleaned up and sanitized for the 21st Century. Subservient work force scared to death of the paddyrollers. Same tune, different dance.Shuck and jive to a mariachi beat…
FROG
Why be so modest…you are a wordsmith’s wordsmith…
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:26 pm
Mama says
“If you ever lose
your ID to an illegal you will
change your mind about
illegals”
…..
If ever lose your ID to
anybody you will change
your mind about anybodys.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
10:28 pm
mama,
Yes, most are prisoners of the drug war.
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:29 pm
josef
wow. ever seen a frog
blush? not a pretty sight.
Jm (LL)
July 11th, 2012
10:32 pm
why is everyone talking like getalife? or frog?
getalife
July 11th, 2012
10:32 pm
I have seen a frog pee on my hand.
Who checked the Indian’s papers?
josef
July 11th, 2012
10:34 pm
MAMA
Mine was usurped. What do you want to know about coming back from Central America in the 80s and New Orleans customs wanting to know about you and your time in Utah? Granted I had been there as a tourist several years back, and foreign territory it may have seemed, I didn’t have to clear customs there.
Jm (LL)
July 11th, 2012
10:34 pm
“Frog is the amphibian bomb”
I hope not. I haven’t liked frog guts since 7th grade biology class.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
10:34 pm
jm,
Frog started it.
If you lick the frog, you hullucinate.
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:35 pm
getalife
i’m sorry. i was probably
drunk.
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:37 pm
getalife
yes. i started the licking
rumor. multiple dividends.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
10:38 pm
frog,
I sent it to Florida to be tested.
josef
July 11th, 2012
10:38 pm
Guy walks into the doctor’s office. Takes off his hat and there’s a frog sitting there. Doc says to the man, what can I do for you? Frog says, not him, me. Can you get this wart off my ass….
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:38 pm
Jm
you were not supposed to
eat the guts. did you lick
the frog?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
10:38 pm
josef:
http://news.yahoo.com/hoard-gold-coins-found-israel-crusades-114326841.html
josef
July 11th, 2012
10:39 pm
FROG
@ 10:37
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
10:40 pm
“Pluck your magic twanger froggie”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYZazW9Ja1k
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
10:40 pm
Excuse me: “Plunk”
Jm (LL)
July 11th, 2012
10:41 pm
frog 10:37 – I did not lick the frog
clearly a mistake…
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:43 pm
getalife
bad move ..it will get you denied benefits.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
10:45 pm
frog,
It was your pee.
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:46 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
10:40 pm
“Pluck your magic twanger
froggie”
………..
i’m afraid i’ll go blind.
i already wear glasses.
josef
July 11th, 2012
10:47 pm
SCOUT
Them’s mine! Belonged to Great whatever Grandpappy Amlaric!
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:48 pm
getalife
i know. your benefits will
be denied. unless you
applied in my name. that
will get you incarcerated.
josef
July 11th, 2012
10:49 pm
getalife
Doing what with that frog? I keep tellin’ ya, Mec, best leave them Boudreaux gals alone!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
10:50 pm
josef:
Get a good lawyer ………………..
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:50 pm
Jm
“Jm (LL)
July 11th, 2012
10:41 pm
frog 10:37 – I did not lick the
frog
clearly a mistake…
…….
I’ll give you a second chance
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
10:52 pm
Tex Ritter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFJLbMVgS-E
getalife
July 11th, 2012
10:53 pm
frog,
Thank goodness we don’t live in Florida.
Good place to spend a week on the beach.
josef
July 11th, 2012
10:55 pm
Scout
Ooops…make that great whatever grandpappy Amalric…Granny’s gray ghost just slapped me! Now, you know I got the lawyers!
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
10:56 pm
getalife
i do live in florida. in the
winter.
G Mare
July 11th, 2012
10:56 pm
I am stealing this from USinUK, I think: OY TO THE VEY. People, we are a nation of immigrants! The only NATIVES here are the people who were here then. And we all know what happened to them! I think what we all might want to think about is WHO ARE THE REAL ILLEGALS HERE! Yeah, I get the this land is my land rhetoric, but if you are not a “native Amrican,” this land is NOT your’s! Am I glad that it is now my land? Yes. If my forebears had not come here from Germany back in the day, I hope I would have stood up for the Jews. I am grateful that I didn’t have to make that choice.
My point here is this: we can not, must not, ever judge who is “other.”
Jm (LL)
July 11th, 2012
10:58 pm
FL is good in the winter. too many palm trees though (if you’re from GA)
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
11:03 pm
Jm
i don’t like palm trees.
i don’t like trees close to
my house or power lines.
if everyone was like me millions
of dollars would be saved
from bad weather.
Oscar
July 11th, 2012
11:04 pm
South Florida has too many leaping lizards. Never saw one till I got there.
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
11:06 pm
Oscar
Got them where i live 30
miles northwest of Tampa.
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
11:09 pm
Oscar
now i understand Robin’s
“Leapin lizards Batman!”
Oscar
July 11th, 2012
11:11 pm
I think Little Orphan Annie used to say “Leaping Lizards” or maybe I just have her confused with Robin. Easy mistake to make.
Oscar
July 11th, 2012
11:12 pm
barking frog
__________
I saw them in Fort Myers.
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:14 pm
Yes
Too many palm trees and too many lizards
The geckos are cute tho
And the taxes are sweet
Frog, I can probably set you up with a gecko or two if you want
Oscar
July 11th, 2012
11:15 pm
Too many snowbirds in the winter. Traffic is a mess. Too humid in the summer. Will be under water in another 100 years.
Josef
July 11th, 2012
11:15 pm
Frog
Obviously you’re not a tree frog…
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:18 pm
Oscar
Yes
Only the very old should buy FL property
It will all be underwater soon
Literally
Josef
July 11th, 2012
11:18 pm
Jm
Set him up with a gekko ? You in the insurance bidness with Thulsa?
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:19 pm
“Set him up with a gekko ? You in the insurance bidness with Thulsa?”
Definitely not
Geckos are on every street corner down here
Oscar
July 11th, 2012
11:20 pm
It also has spiders and snake.
I don’t like spiders and snakes.
– Little Orphan Annie
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
11:21 pm
Oscar
he may have stolen it from
annie or vice versa or i may
be mistaken..
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:21 pm
Caught a 4 inch wooly spider 2 weeks ago in the bedroom
Don’t know how a bugger that big got in
Glad the wifey didn’t see it
Oscar
July 11th, 2012
11:23 pm
Looking for some future beachfront property near Waycross. Buy now and get in while the price is low.
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
11:23 pm
Jm
no gekkos. too many lot
lizards when trucking.
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
11:25 pm
josef
no. i’m a bush frog.
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:26 pm
Oscar
I’ve said that for years
Great grand kids will be rich
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/electric-rates-not-falling-1476432.html
Btw, not a shocker as the federal analyst says
Tons of new capital being deployed into new power plants to replace Obama killed power plants
Which more than offsets the natural gas and coal price declines
Reporters are so dumb…..
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
11:27 pm
Jm
7 ft above sea level. i’ll sell
at 3.
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:28 pm
“”It’s caused us to scratch our heads,” says Tyler Hodge, an analyst at the Energy Department who studies electricity prices.”
Because you’re not too bright Mr Hodge….
Thulsa Doom
July 11th, 2012
11:29 pm
But I thought the Libs loved themselves some regulation. And isn’t it the liberals who have all this faith that new regulations can be managed quite well by government? What happened to your faith in regulation and govt management and can do? too funny.
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:29 pm
Frog
Good call
Josef
July 11th, 2012
11:29 pm
Jm
If it was a bugger got in you better be glad the wifey didn’t know….you a pillow biter too…oy, they’re everywhere.
Frog.
You’re on a roll !
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:31 pm
“— In many states, retail electricity rates are set by regulators every few years. As a result, lower power costs haven’t yet made their way to customers.
— Utilities often lock in their costs for natural gas and other fuels years in advance. That helps protect customers when fuel prices spike, but it prevents customers from reaping the benefits of a price drop.
— The cost of actually delivering electricity, which accounts for 40 percent of a customer’s bill on average, has been rising fast. That has eaten up any potential savings from the production of electricity.”
3 reasons cited. All of them wrong. Reporter loses.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
11:33 pm
Young folks should take trips to Florida to party before we lose that State.
We had a blast in Florida.
barking frog
July 11th, 2012
11:34 pm
josef
Frog.
You’re on a roll !
………..
I better get off. getalife
will think it’s a po boy.
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:36 pm
Josef “pillow biter”?
Thulsa – there are some industries that need to be regulated, but there are only two good examples
1. They’re a natural monopoly or
2. The transaction cost in correcting market failure is to small to justify individual litigation or resolution and the guilty party is ambiguous
Examples
1. Power transmission
2. Environmental pollution
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:37 pm
“You’re on a roll !
………..
I better get off. getalife
will think it’s a po boy.”
Budumpching
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:39 pm
“We had a blast in Florida.”
I won’t miss it
GA will be overrun with evacuating yanks
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:39 pm
“We had a blast in Florida.”
I won’t miss it
GA will be overrun with evacuating yanks
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:40 pm
Double post. Oops
You haven’t been drinking too much
Or maybe you have
Thulsa Doom
July 11th, 2012
11:41 pm
Jm,
Glad to see you understand the concept of market failure. Few people do, especially on here. Good info on the power business also.
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:45 pm
Doom
Most liberals have a hammer and all they see are nails
Poor carpenters they are
Sometimes a nail is needed
Sometimes not
Josef
July 11th, 2012
11:47 pm
Jm
Pillow biter was from last night…I guess you weren’t here..
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:48 pm
Josef…. Nope fraid not
Jm
July 11th, 2012
11:50 pm
Ok party over
Cheerio
getalife
July 12th, 2012
12:46 am
Taste like chicken.
One more term will recover all the jobs you lost cons.
Stay home.
ken
July 12th, 2012
12:50 am
Gee wiz, don’t you people have a safety deposit box that you keep your family’s valuables in ? Only pennies per day.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 12th, 2012
6:12 am
I’m just old enough to remember how, during the 1990s, when a certain man from Arkansas was in the WH, that Newt and his cabal would hoot and holler at this kind of thing, calling it an “Unfunded Mandate” and, woebetide anyone who disagreed with them …
funny how the pendulum swings …
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 12th, 2012
6:20 am
Good morning all y’all…
The thought process of the right wing pundit…
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/07/10/political-pictures-gpoh/
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 12th, 2012
6:26 am
JOSEF,
For when you get here…
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/confederacy-signs-treaties-with-choctaw-and-chickasaw-tribes
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 12th, 2012
6:26 am
Normal –
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/07/11/political-pictures-paddle-harder/
this is the one that got me laughing this morning … (they’re just misunderstood!!!)
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 12th, 2012
6:32 am
Normal – TBogg has a great post about Mittens Meets the NAACP
http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2012/07/11/r-money-iz-in-the-hizzouse/
MiltonMan
July 12th, 2012
6:45 am
Yet you libs just love ObamaCare. Just wait until you stand in line at the doctors office once this garbage takes full affect.
Bottom Line: All your important papers (SS Card, Birth certificate, passport, DD Form 214, etc.) should be kept in a safety deposit box, safe, etc. It is not that difficult. Also, Jay you sound lazy. It is pretty easy to apply for a replacement SS card.
Also, I guess you libs have forgotten that it was none other than your reject Roy Barnes who removed DMV offices from the Kroger stores in the state.
A Simple Man
July 12th, 2012
6:46 am
I was unaware of this issue. I renewed my license by mail back in April so haven’t noticed this recent change. I am a strong state’s rights supporter and will be calling to voice my displeasure with this situation.
Still doesn’t change the fact that asking for an id before allowing someone to vote is a perfectly good thing to do.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 12th, 2012
6:50 am
“Yet you libs just love ObamaCare. Just wait until you stand in line at the doctors office once this garbage takes full affect.”
oooooooooooooo!!!! death panels!!!! booga booga!!!
(Milton Man has obviously never had to wait 3 months to schedule a pap smear)
MiltonMan
July 12th, 2012
6:53 am
“Milton Man has obviously never had to wait 3 months to schedule a pap smear”
Yes all that garbage that you libs spew out about “War on Women”. The wife was able to schedule one and have the test the follwoing day. Our primary care doc has sent us an email that his office was going private which suits me just fine.
TaxPayer
July 12th, 2012
7:01 am
“But I hope people understand this, your friends who like Obamacare, you remind them of this, if they want more stuff from government tell them to go vote for the other guy-more free stuff. But don’t forget nothing is really free.” – The Mitt, It fits almost like a glove except it doesn’t.
Is The Mitt actually NIF incognito.
MiltonMan
July 12th, 2012
7:05 am
Does the drunken Jesse Jackson Jr., whose camp says he is in “rehab” because of exhaustion, get to use ObamaCare to take care of his drinking problem?
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 12th, 2012
7:05 am
MiltonMan
If I were you, I’d call that Doctor of yours for some Prozac…you need to relax.
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ALSO…
I just sent in a donation to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee just to get this bumper sticker…I’ll be glad to get you one too…
Dear John Boehner:
It’s Constitutional.
GET OVER IT!
Madmax
July 12th, 2012
7:06 am
Taxpayer – I think Romney showed who he is yesterday, and it wasn’t bad. He told them what they didn’t want to hear – kind of refreshing comparison from the other guy who panders to every group he talks to and tries to create fear.
TaxPayer
July 12th, 2012
7:08 am
“The wife was…”
MiltonMan obviously does not get out much. I recently tried to set up an appointment with a doctor and there were no openings for several months out. So I called another and another and got the same answer. The fourth doctor was able to work me in maybe at the end of the day in two weeks. I live in North Georgia.
stands for decibels (YL)
July 12th, 2012
7:08 am
mornin’.
Enjoy some a’ them Republican family values in W. Virginny.
Know yer place, wimminz.
TaxPayer
July 12th, 2012
7:12 am
He told them what they didn’t want to hear
He told them what, madmax. That all their years of paying into social security and medicare meant nothing. That they’re considered a bunch of freeloading moochers by the Republican party and they need to have their entitlements taken away so that money can be given to the one percenters… refreshing indeed.
Madmax
July 12th, 2012
7:13 am
Taxpayer – Funny, I didn’t hear those words. You must have used a democratic translator.
TaxPayer
July 12th, 2012
7:17 am
Madmax-Funny, I didn’t hear your words either. Did you have a point.
stands for decibels (YL)
July 12th, 2012
7:22 am
Sometimes Nancy needs to get outa my brain.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is hinting that all those boos toward Mitt Romney on Wednesday at the NAACP convention may have been exactly what the former governor was counting on.
“I think it was a calculated move on his part to get booed at the NAACP convention,” Pelosi said in an interview with Bloomberg TV on Wednesday. She did not elaborate further during the three-minute interview clip provided by Bloomberg.
Madmax
July 12th, 2012
7:24 am
Taxpayer – yeah, I think Romney will be a formidable challenge to the the great orator. You may have seen him turn a corner in the campaign where we can start to see the differences and I like what I saw. I’ve been waiting for Mitt to stand up and let us see the man and I think he started that yesterday. It’s a long way to November, but it’s a good first step.
stands for decibels (YL)
July 12th, 2012
7:25 am
It’s been awhile since I’ve published “Like Atrios Said.” So without further ado:
Like Atrios said.
It is one of my personal pet peeves, but old people who call for drafting teenagers really really enrage me. For millions of reasons.
Though here I’ll just limit my rage to the proposed non-military option of “teaching in low-income areas.” Because what low-income areas need more than anything is untrained 18-year-olds being paid slave wages to teach their kids. Genius.
A##holes.
Madmax
July 12th, 2012
7:26 am
Stands – on that we can agree.
stands for decibels (YL)
July 12th, 2012
7:35 am
I don’t normally follow celebrity news unless it concerns some well known creative genius I actually care about (you know, like Justin Bieber?)
But I’m starting to think there could be a useful national discussion about the bright line we Americans draw between child abuse and “raising your children to be good [fill-in-the-name-of-your-religious-affiliation-here]” in the Holmes-Cruise bustup.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tom-cruise-katie-holmes-divorce-scientology-344687?page=show
A number of former Scientology members say Holmes must know that as Suri gets older, the church might start exerting more of an influence on her.
“She’s at the age where the kids get indoctrinated,” says Headley. “It’s like, playtime over. You’re a Scientologist now. And they really de-emphasize the family. Katie becomes a lot less important as a mother. It’s all about the organization over the individual.”
Soter compared the religious training of children to the practice in Catholicism of beginning to receive Holy Communion at age 7. “Parents may choose to begin educating their children about religion at any time, much as in any other religion,” his statement said. “There is nothing unusual here.”
Headley, who began working 100-hour weeks at the Sea Org base in Hemet when he was 16, often for no pay, was shunned by his Scientologist mother when he left in 2005.
“You’re either in or out when it comes to Scientology,” says Headley. “That’s why Katie is making custody such an issue in the divorce petition. If you’re out, the way she seems to be, they want to cut you off from everyone, including your kids.”
TaxPayer
July 12th, 2012
7:42 am
Last month, Mitt Romney’s campaign got into a dustup with the Washington Post after the newspaper reported that Bain Capital, the private equity firm the GOP presidential candidate founded, invested in several US companies that outsourced jobs to China and India. The campaign indignantly demanded a retraction, claiming that these businesses did not send jobs overseas while Romney was running Bain, and the Post stood by its investigation. Yet there is another aspect to the Romney-as-outsourcer controversy. According to government documents reviewed by Mother Jones, Romney, when he was in charge of Bain, invested heavily in a Chinese manufacturing company that depended on US outsourcing for its profits—and that explicitly stated that such outsourcing was crucial to its success.
That’s our Mitt. As refreshing as yellow snow.
kayaker 71
July 12th, 2012
7:44 am
std, 7:35,
Although Scientology is classified as a religion by the govt,, it comes about as close to a cult as one could imagine. When anything takes away your ability to think for yourself and make your own decisions, it’s time to step back and take a look.
Paul
July 12th, 2012
7:46 am
Morning, USinUK!
Didn’t think anything could top Lemon Mousse Pie first thing in the morning, but thinking of Mitt doing Bulworth……LOL!
Paul
July 12th, 2012
7:47 am
“When anything takes away your ability to think for yourself and make your own decisions, it’s time to step back and take a look.”
Talk radio’s a cult?
Who knew?
Jay
July 12th, 2012
7:50 am
sheets
barking frog
July 12th, 2012
7:53 am
Scientology is the new
Mormonism.
A lot to ask
July 12th, 2012
7:54 am
Is it too much to ask to have original (real) documents to prove who you are? If the driver’s license is the de facto ID in this country (it probably should not be as one drive on the roads tells you a large percentage of the people are not even qualified-much less insured, I’m sure-to drive).
Perhaps it will make people actually save these documents, rather than continue our lax ways about ID (and border defense) in this country.
And don’t you only have to do it every 10 years?
Francia Lindon
July 12th, 2012
9:12 am
It took me 4 trips to the Cumming Dept. of Driver Services and a final 5 hour 40 minute wait at which time I was told that my recent Jury Summons from Fulton County did NOT qualify as one of the 2 required proofs of address. Neither did my expired drivers license with a 17-year history at the same address, nor a blank check with my address, nor my voter registration card issued by the state within the last week. Fortunately I had my car registration with me and after making it very very clear I was not going to leave without a license, they accepted the car registration.
This will have consequences beyond just being able to drive. It will impact GA voting rights. There are other states following the same Federal law that aren’t making renewing a license a perfect Kafkaesque nightmare.