House GOP stabbing ObamaCare voodoo doll one more time
It’s no surprise that House Republicans have gotten very good at this “repeal” thing, given the practice they’ve had at it. When they vote yet again today to kill ObamaCare, by some counts it will be the 31st time they have voted to repeal all or part of that much-reviled piece of legislation.
However, they’re not so good about keeping the second half of their 2010 campaign pledge, the part about “replacing” ObamaCare with a conservative alternative that accomplishes many of the same goals.
“Why is it so hard?” Matt Miller asks in a fine piece in today’s Washington Post. “Because Obamacare WAS the Republican alternative. It was the conservative-designed mandate and subsidy approach…. Only in America could a Democratic president pass Mitt Romney’s health plan and fund it partly through John McCain’s best idea from the last campaign (taxing some employer-provided plans) and be branded a ’socialist’.”
As I noted in the blog post earlier this morning, I’m always leery of pundits offering free advice on how a candidate should campaign, but I’ll make an exception in Miller’s case. He writes:
“Here’s what you should do, Mr. President. In the debates this fall, pull out a small laminated card you’ve had made as a prop for this purpose. Then remind Mitt Romney that the ranks of the uninsured today are equal to the combined populations of Oklahoma, Connecticut, Iowa, Mississippi, Kansas, Kentucky, Arkansas, Utah, Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico, West Virginia, Nebraska, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, North Dakota, South Dakota, Alaska, Vermont and Wyoming.
Read that list slowly, Mr. President. Then ask your opponent: “Would America turn its back on the citizens of these 25 states if everyone there lacked basic health coverage? That’s what we’ve been doing for decades. You knew it was right to act when you were governor of Massachusetts, Mitt. How can you pretend we don’t need to solve this for the nation? And how can you object with a straight face when your own pioneering plan was my model?”
The president should also say he’d be happy to talk reform once Republicans offer a rival plan that the CBO certifies will cover 30 million people, as the Affordable Care Act does.
Today’s Republican party won’t do it. They want the money for tax cuts for the top. They don’t care.”
Well put, Mr. Miller. Very well put.
– Jay Bookman
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Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
1:50 pm
I wouldn’t even think about “shirking” our financial obligation if:
1. GA Republicans would stop cutting education
2. College’s would quit raising tuition
JohnnyReb
July 11th, 2012
1:51 pm
I post one of my best lines on college statistics and get no recognition. It must be true that Libs have no sense of humor. Bosch would not have missed it.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
1:51 pm
As Independence Day slowly becomes Dependence Days…
“Like sands through the hourglass… so are the Days of Our Lives.”
– Thomas Jefferson
Drama q-u-e-e-n much?
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
1:52 pm
J. Reb — “So, JHM can explain how a poll with 9% more Democrats than Republicans produces an accurate outcome of Barry vs Mitt.”
Yes, I can. If you understand statistical sampling, it’s not much harder than balancing your checkbook.
“Ignore me”
Okay.
Aquagirl
July 11th, 2012
1:52 pm
I’m gonna wave my homemade light sabre at the next person who makes fun of Dragon*Con. You’ll be sorry.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
1:52 pm
Any and all Republican jobs bills are designed to do one thing, drive working wages – their OWN wages – down ever further.
They love the plutocracy and basking in the reflected glow of Donnie and Robme…
Willie
July 11th, 2012
1:53 pm
Poor Obama can’t even get Harry Reid to support his new tax the rich proposal.
I don’t blame Bookman for being unhappy for the repeal votes…it’s an election year and many democrats don’t want to be on record supporting Obamacare right before they face the voters.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
1:53 pm
SfD — “It’s like Tom Petty sang: “The weighting is the hardest part.”
Ahahaha!
SPC
July 11th, 2012
1:54 pm
This is fallout from a failure in leadership. Just about everyone knows that health care costs are a problem and that reform is needed. The president also knew that to achieve this, legislation would need to be supported by a majority, not 50 + 1 (Obama 9/25/2007). He has managed to take a problem that the vast majority of Americans know needs to be solved and divided the country because he abandoned a principle he once believed in for reasons only he knows. Maybe he now believes the end justifies the means, maybe he saw his chance to make history and grabbed it, who knows. An effective leader avoids these outcomes at all costs because the resulting division can destroy the enterprise. That’s what candidate Obama said he wouldn’t do, but that’s what President Obama has done and continues to do.
Steve
July 11th, 2012
1:55 pm
Tax the rich? You mean bringing their rates back to BEFORE the FAILED Bush tax cut experiment that was supposed to be temporary yet our economy ultimately collapsed instead?
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
1:55 pm
I post one of my best lines on college statistics and get no recognition.
We’re just not that into you.
Welcome to the Occupation
July 11th, 2012
1:56 pm
The United States, the only country in the industrialized world where government-guaranteed health care has not only not been settled for decades, but remains controversial, is a disgrace.
THAT is the true meaning of American “Exceptionalism”.
stands for decibels
July 11th, 2012
1:56 pm
You don’t know me very well.
Come on in and skinny-dip with the hippies, PD.
The water’s fine.
You know you want to.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
1:56 pm
Aquagirl’s phasers are set to “stunning”
JohnnyReb
July 11th, 2012
1:57 pm
I use to believe blacks would vote for Barry no matter what. Apparently not so. Little Barry did not bother to show up at the NAACP convention (he sent the bumbling VP), but Mitt did. Romney gave a great speech and got a standing O at the end (which likely won’t be covered by the lame stream media). Also got several “organ stings” during his speech also. Now, you perverts leave that organ sting alone.
Steve
July 11th, 2012
1:58 pm
“T he United States, the only country in the industrialized world where government-guaranteed health care has not only not been settled for decades, but remains controversial, is a disgrace.
THAT is the true meaning of American “Exceptionalism”.”
So sad that this is an obvious statement that goes right over the heads of those who fear change.
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
1:58 pm
“Come on in and skinny-dip with the hippies, PD.”
No thanks
Don Abernethy
July 11th, 2012
1:59 pm
We will do anything to stop socialism and the communist ideology of redistributing the wealth and taking from those who have been successful by honest means and hard work. Obamacare is socialism.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
1:59 pm
Also got several “organ stings” during his speech also.
Is that what the kids are calling it nowadays?
JohnnyReb
July 11th, 2012
2:00 pm
Kamie – really. Here I was thinking you hung on my every post.
Don't Forget
July 11th, 2012
2:00 pm
Ben, if you actually knew anything about the ACA you would realize that the IRS is prohibited from seeking criminal or civil penalties from those who pay the fine. The only thing they can do is deduct the fine from any tax refund the person may have coming to them.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
2:00 pm
Hey Don…. So Romneycare is not socialism?
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
2:01 pm
Given that Republicans are generally ancient before their time I would rewrite that goofy saying this way: “As Independence Day quickly becomes Depends Days”…
Don't Forget
July 11th, 2012
2:01 pm
But in Choctaw the word for “savage, barbarian” is Chickasaw and vice versa.
I’ve heard that in Germany they refer to the German cockroach as a French cockroach.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
2:01 pm
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
1:45 pm
“You know what they say about a fool and his money……
Which explains why Ben will go nowhere near Intrade!!
I’m tellin’ ya, Benji, there is some real easy money to be made there by you big talking dirt poor cons!
It sure beats waiting for Donnie Trump to trickle down on you!”
But I thought you libs loved the poor? I guess you only love the helpless poor who wait for handouts…not the ones willing to work it out on their own.
stands for decibels
July 11th, 2012
2:01 pm
Ok, J-reb, you made me look…
I don’t have one year of statistics unless you count the measurements of the coeds.
the “coeds?” their “measurements?”
great line. probably would’ve had ‘em rolling in the aisles.
…in 1956.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
2:02 pm
Here I was thinking you hung on my every post.
I don’t think that phrase means what you think it means.
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
2:03 pm
Don Abernathy – “taking from those who have been successful by honest means and hard work.”
You know, in the 5 years since I retired, not once has a federal agent come to my door demanding access to my investment accounts. Who are these people you speak of that are roaming the streets of America taking all your stuff?
stands for decibels
July 11th, 2012
2:04 pm
No thanks
But we’ll be having homemade hummus and whole wheat pita bread afterward! it’ll be fun!
josef
July 11th, 2012
2:04 pm
DON’T FORGET
In England, they called it “the French disease”
In France, they called it “the English disease”
Of course, you know what “it” is!
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
2:05 pm
“You know, in the 5 years since I retired, not once has a federal agent come to my door demanding access to my investment accounts”
Just wait until you try to withdraw it and/or spend it.
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
2:06 pm
Ben Shockley – “Just wait until you try to withdraw it and/or spend it.”
What do you think I live on?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
2:07 pm
Why am I not surprised that the prior “interpretation” from a conned disagrees with reality…. oh wait…I am not surprised at all.
Mitt Romney addressed the national convention of the NAACP Wednesday morning, the nation’s largest civil rights organization. He was cordially received by the audience, who greeted him with a standing ovation, but the tone changed quickly after the GOP presidential candidate began his remarks.
The crowd booed Romney when he called for the full repeal of Obamacare and audibly laughed when he suggested he would be a better president than Obama for the African-American community. Also notable was what was left unsaid. Romney failed to address voting rights, which is a major theme of this NAACP gathering.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 11th, 2012
2:09 pm
Peadawg, no serious offense intended, but you just happen to be a racist liberal
If you’re a “con” because of your racism, and that’s all, I hope you stick with democrats
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
2:09 pm
Can somebody please tell me why rich liberals can’t seem to pay their taxes?
(CNN) — Wealthy socialite and Grammy-nominated songwriter Denise Rich has renounced her U.S. citizenship and resides in London, her spokeswoman Judy Smith said Tuesday.
Rich’s maiden name, Eisenberg, appeared on April 30 in the Federal Registrar’s Quarterly Publication of Individuals Who Have Chosen To Expatriate, though she left in November 2011.
By handing in her American passport, tax lawyers say she is able to legally avoid paying significant taxes on her estate.
Rich, 68, is the ex-wife of billionaire commodities trader Marc Rich, who was pardoned in 2001 by then-president Bill Clinton for oil profiteering and tax evasion after he fled to Switzerland. The pardon was considered controversial because of Denise Rich’s financial contributions to the Democratic Party and to the Clinton Library.
Schumer to Saverin: Leave, but pay taxes
Facebook co-founder “defriends” U.S. As of 2001, Denise Rich had made more than $1.3 million in political contributions to the Democratic Party since 1993, including $70,000 to Hillary Clinton’s Senate campaign and $450,000 to the Clinton presidential library in Arkansas.
Investigators told CNN at the time that there were Secret Service logs showing that Rich went to the White House the last night of Bill Clinton’s presidency.
kayaker 71
July 11th, 2012
2:10 pm
So, it appears that that august champion of liberal black causes, that defender of the down trodden and keeper of the faith, none other than Duvall Patrick, the Gov of MA has just refused to sign a bill passed by his Democratically dominated state legislature, limiting what food stamp recipients can buy with their government handout. The legislature objected to the purchase of ammo for your gun, lottery tickets, manicures, visits to the tattoo parlor, alcohol, tobacco and numerous other things that those on the dole just can’t do without. The kicker is that they can also go to an ATM and withdraw cash on the balance which the legislature says is breaking the bank. But, no, we have to protect the black vote in MA for Mr. Patrick, do we not Governor? If that doesn’t stimulate you to shake your head in wonder, you are part of the problem.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
2:11 pm
But I thought you libs loved the poor?
I neither love them nor hate them. Same with rich people. Same with middle class people.
You on the other hand, absolutely hate poor people. You neocons like it when people suffer.
Because you desperately need someone to look down on to feel better about yourselves.
The same way that Donnie Combover feels about you helpless, handout-waiting rubes.
Halftrack
July 11th, 2012
2:11 pm
“Would America turn its back on the citizens of these 25 states if everyone there lacked basic health coverage? Please tell America if this Obummercare stays in place, they will have to pay huge taxes to subsidize all the citizens that now lack insurance. It’s like taking bread off your table from your children to give to someone else or your billfold is thinner after payday and you can’t buy shoes for your children. A high tide raises all boats, and high employment raises all families.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
2:12 pm
Wow…Dem president Clinton pardons scumbag Dem tax evader after $1.3 million in donations from scumbag’s Dem wife, plus whatever he got from her in the middle of the night after that visit to the white house.
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
2:13 pm
Halftrack – “A high tide raises all boats”
Quick, go back to the 80’s!! There’s no place fo your here in the future!
Rightwing Troll
July 11th, 2012
2:13 pm
“An effective leader avoids these outcomes at all costs because the resulting division can destroy the enterprise. ”
The wingnuts decided on day one they would not support ANY initiative from this administration, therefore division was completely unavoidable.
Real Scootter
July 11th, 2012
2:13 pm
I don’t think that phrase means what you think it means
St Simons
July 11th, 2012
2:13 pm
‘but we’ll be having homemade hummus and whole wheat pita bread’
ok, but just don’t get out that dam Branston pickle jelly or
whatever it is.
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
2:14 pm
Ben Shockley – “Wow…Dem president Clinton pardons scumbag Dem tax evader after $1.3 million in donations”
Wow, maybe he should be impeached… Oh wait.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
2:14 pm
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
2:11 pm
“You on the other hand, absolutely hate poor people. You neocons like it when people suffer.”
Congratulations Jammypoo. Stupidest post and biggest lie ever on Bookman’s blog.
Oscar
July 11th, 2012
2:14 pm
The mandate does not need repealing. It has already been held to be unconstitutional.
Why would anyone want to repeal that part of the law that puts a payment on people who don’t have health insurance. People that don’t have insurace wind up having to be taken care of by the taxpayers. Looks like they should pay a tax to cover some of that cost.
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
2:16 pm
Ben Shockley – “Stupidest post and biggest lie ever on Bookman’s blog.”
No, I still consider Mighty Righty’s comment that FDR started WWII to still be in the lead.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
2:17 pm
“JamVet
July 11th, 2012
2:11 pm
“Because you desperately need someone to look down on to feel better about yourselves.”
Is that anything like all the condescencion you libbies rain down on anyone who dares disagree with your libbie talking point parrotting?
getalife
July 11th, 2012
2:18 pm
“Taliban says they can’t win Afghan War
An alleged senior Taliban commander says the leadership is looking for a seat in the government.” Yahoo
She is good.
Hillary 16!
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 11th, 2012
2:18 pm
Kayaker
Democrats in the senate, Reid himself blocke obama’s own tax extension
Democrats are insane and stupid
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
2:18 pm
JamVet, maybe you better go back to picking your beans. This is getting embarassing. I am actually beginning to feel sorrier for you than I did before.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
2:19 pm
Countdown to JamVet calling me a coward because I never served in the military in 3….2….1…..
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
2:20 pm
He’ll also throw in some ad hominem atack on my dad in 3….2….1…..
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
2:21 pm
No, I still consider Mighty Righty’s comment that FDR started WWII to still be in the lead.
Meh.
One of our more distinguished contributors here came right out and accused Jay of being able to see what we post as we type it out.
Steve
July 11th, 2012
2:22 pm
yawn
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
2:22 pm
Kamchak – “accused Jay of being able to see what we post as we type it out.”
He doesn’t? Damn, I pictured Jay in a room with a thousand monitors hanging on every word we say. Thanks for killing the dream man.
Fred ™
July 11th, 2012
2:22 pm
LOL Kammie. (your 2:21). Really? Some dunce actually posted that and MEANT it?
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
2:23 pm
JamVet, maybe you better go back to picking your beans.
It wasn’t brother AmVet that posted that, it was me.
This is getting embarrassing.
I am actually beginning to feel sorrier for you than I did before.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
2:24 pm
“Kamchak – “accused Jay of being able to see what we post as we type it out.” ”
He can block it before it ever gets posted. Ask me how I know.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
2:25 pm
“Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., blocked the votes on both for now, saying the Senate would return to them after it finishes the small business tax measure. Aides said Democrats want to focus now on the small business measure, which they view as a winning issue for them, and turn later this month to Obama’s plan to extend the broader tax cuts, which they see as a draw for voters.
“We’ll get to the tax issues,” Reid said. “That way we’ll be able to talk in more detail about Governor Romney’s taxes,” a reference to Democratic demands that wealthy GOP presidential challenger Mitt Romney release more of his income tax returns.”
Tell the whole story jm.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
2:25 pm
Kam, to be fair, that was his first foray into politics…… well at least under that name, that particular blog post and if you ignore everything else he posted that day.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
2:25 pm
“It wasn’t brother AmVet that posted that, it was me.”
What’s the difference between the two of you, really?
LMAO
Real Scootter
July 11th, 2012
2:25 pm
One of our more distinguished contributors here came right out and accused Jay of being able to see what we post as we type it out.
Dang and hereI was thinking Jay knew what we were going to type before we typed it!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
2:26 pm
He can block it before it ever gets posted. Ask me how I know
Oy vey, guess someone needs a lesson on the auto bluenose.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
2:27 pm
I never served in the military
You didn’t? News to me. Don’t be ashamed.
But no wonder you’re such a big DickHead Cheney fan.
Both of you had priorities other than military service.
LOL!!!
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
2:27 pm
Don’t Forget @ 2:00
You do realize that when you start off with, “Ben, if you actually knew anything”, you’re setting yourself up for failure, right?
—————-
Duvall Patrick, the Gov of MA has just refused to sign a bill passed by his Democratically dominated state legislature, limiting what food stamp recipients can buy with their government handout. The legislature objected to the purchase of ammo for your gun, lottery tickets, manicures, visits to the tattoo parlor, alcohol, tobacco and numerous other things that those on the dole just can’t do without.
So, why do you want to usurp someone’s 2nd Amendment right. Bearing arms also requrires bearing ammo.
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
2:28 pm
Kam @ 2:21
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
2:29 pm
Fred
Yep.
Drain The Swamp (NIF)
March 17th, 2010
4:55 pm
Don’t you think that the posters here should know that you can watch them writing before the post it?
Wouldn’t that be the decent thing to do?
And he continues to make this accusation.
I’m afraid that we teased him mercilessly about it
getalife
July 11th, 2012
2:29 pm
“Ask me how I know.”
How?
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
2:30 pm
“Both of you had priorities other than military service”
As did our current commander-in-chief, as did Bill Clinton, both of whom are probably weary of having you so far up their backsides…..
stands for decibels
July 11th, 2012
2:31 pm
Don’t you think that the posters here should know that you can watch them writing before the post it?
That will never not be funny.
Filter
July 11th, 2012
2:33 pm
After all this time of reading what i believed to be Ty Webb’s wither willful ignorance or lies believe I have finally figured it out.
It’s as if I place 2 red delicious apples, same size, weight, color and shape on a table. I then say “those two are entirely different.” Technically, I speak the truth as the are 2 different items. The problem comes when I stop my explanation there. I haven’t lied, but have only told you the part of the truth to which I want you to pay attention. Now you’d have to be pretty gullible, or love me like my Momma, to let me get away with it, but I would be telling the truth.
And that is what passes for truth and logic on the part of the vast majority of the right today. It’s not truly double-speak, it’s more of a lie of omission which is far more insidious.
Hopefully people are waking up and saying to themselves ….”well that’s just stupid.” If not, things are only going to get worse.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
2:37 pm
What am I typing right now ben?
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 11th, 2012
2:37 pm
Here we go again…
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120711/US.Investment.Adviser.Missing/?cid=hero_media
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
2:38 pm
Kam
Thanks to that post and the “come down from the trees”, I had to give Jay his own folder in my favorites to save posts like those.
Adam
July 11th, 2012
2:38 pm
I’m just curious, but in the past 24 hours has anyone said the following on here?:
“I do not care what Romney does with his money I care what Obama does with mine”
I have seen this all over Facebook. Looks like the mindless zombies soaked up another right wing radio (or Drudge, or Fox, or Conservative blog) talking point.
So, before I look, has anyone said it? How many?
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 11th, 2012
2:39 pm
SNAP (food stamps)
http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/retailers/eligible.htm
Stop the BS about what it can be used for.
the cat
July 11th, 2012
2:44 pm
Looking at Mighty Righty again:
Adam
July 11th, 2012
2:38 pm
I’m just curious, but in the past 24 hours has anyone said the following on here?:
“I do not care what Romney does with his money I care what Obama does with mine”
I have seen this all over Facebook. Looks like the mindless zombies soaked up another right wing radio (or Drudge, or Fox, or Conservative blog) talking point.
So, before I look, has anyone said it? How many?
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
2:45 pm
SoCo/Bro
Here starts is his most memorable melt-down
But I’ve always wondered, what was Jay doing up monitoring the blog a 1:25 in the morning?
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
2:47 pm
Adam
A paraphrase of that one, yep!!
MoreRightthanLeft
July 11th, 2012
10:15 am
stole this…apparently i am supposed to be more outraged with what Mitt Romeny does with his money than i am with what Obama does with mine (ours)
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/07/11/the-democratic-battle-plan-against-mitt-romney/?cp=all#comment-1009338
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
2:47 pm
UNITED NATIONS – “A treaty being hammered out this month at the United Nations — with Iran playing a key role — could expose the records of America’s gun owners to foreign governments — and, critics warn, eventually put the Second Amendment on global trial.”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/07/11/un-arms-treaty-could-put-us-gun-owners-in-foreign-sights-say-critics/#ixzz20LDYpiVp
As Charles would say: “From my cold, dead hands ……………… !”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
2:48 pm
We’re going to need a new wing in the wingnut hall of fame to cover all of NIF’s meltdowns under his various nom de jour. I hope the wing has a Starbucks….
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 11th, 2012
2:48 pm
Kam
But I’ve always wondered, what was Jay doing up monitoring the blog a 1:25 in the morning?
———————————————————
Jay was up swilling that rotgut bourbon he drinks
And he knew what was going to be written before it was thought of so he stayed up
Adam
July 11th, 2012
2:48 pm
Hmm only one person said it, and admitted to stealing it. I guess the caliber here is a bit higher.
TaxPayer
July 11th, 2012
2:50 pm
Wow. I wonder what upset him so much!.
Erwin's cat
July 11th, 2012
2:51 pm
Adam,
I said a version of it a few weeks ago and then again a few days ago…but now it’s mainstream so I’ll need a new one
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
2:52 pm
And how many democrats will vote with the Republicans?
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 11th, 2012
2:52 pm
There is proof of evolution, apes are decendants of TPer’s
Dekalb comments
July 11th, 2012
2:52 pm
Ben Shockley @ 1:44
There is ongoing discussion as to whether the IRS in the law as enacted actually has any enforcement authority. The law specifically states that, with respect to the penalty/tax, the IRS cannot levy or lien any property (that would include no garnishments) and that no criminal prosecution may lie for failure to pay the penalty/tax. I have read insighftul articles by both liberals and conservatives.
That aside, the private insurance companies will come knocking on RMoney’s door (or pull their money from him) if he doesn’t do whatever can be done to get people to purchase insurance. In order for insurers to cover pre-existing conditions, etc. their expectation is they will have more customers. Now whether those customers currently outside the market are primarily younger, healthier customers or more likely to be older, less healthy customers is not really known.
But I think the insurance lobby will have alot to say about whether the government “leans” on the freeloaders to buy insurance by threatening to pursue the penalty/tax
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
2:52 pm
SHEETS!
Fred ™
July 11th, 2012
2:54 pm
Kam: Jay was up at 1:25 monitoring his blog and doing what everyone else up a 1:25 on his blog was doing. Drinking and posting lol.
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
2:55 pm
Kam
I forgot all about that one. I caught it after the fact.
Thomas
July 11th, 2012
2:58 pm
2014 flat $ penalty/tax/broccoli $95
2015 flat $ penalty/tax/broccoli $325
2016 flat $ penatly/tax/broccoli $695
very heavy marriage penalty on the 3.8% payroll penatly/tax/broccoli $200k single $250k MFJ- what a bunch of horse sh%t that is
anyway- workaround is don’t have insurance- pay the penalty/tax/broccoli and call Humana when you lacerate your kidney. What a joke- were the folks in DC high or just stupid?
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 11th, 2012
2:59 pm
Bro
NIF might as well have said this to Jay that night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM16afDRbPM
Fred ™
July 11th, 2012
3:03 pm
LOL Common. Great scene from a great movie.
Paul
July 11th, 2012
3:04 pm
The phrase “lots of people bring me problems but hardly anyone brings me solutions” applies very well to Republicans when it comes to health care reform.
Regarding Jay’s repeat of the scenario for the debates, Gov Romney would probably answer “you leave it to the states, the laboratories for innovation and blah blah blah’ after which Pres Obama would say ‘and the only state that has effectively dealt with the problem, as you well know, Governor, is Massachusetts when you were governor and enacted Romneycare, with the mandates and subsidies and penalties.”
Those are going to be some fun debates.
I smell a rat
July 11th, 2012
3:04 pm
If the ACA is so great, why were the exemptions, exceptions and bribes necessary to get the required votes?
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
3:05 pm
Ben, did you ever make it past Webelos?
Or did they throw you out for being an ______?
Cuz, it sure looks like you’ve been working on being one for your entire life! LOL!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 11th, 2012
3:07 pm
Just remember, of all the governing bodies, the House of Representatives (not the President, the Senate or the Supreme Court) was chosen by our founding fathers to be most representative of the people.
That’s why taxes must start there.
Tealiban Party
July 11th, 2012
3:08 pm
Joseph
July 11th, 2012
11:39 am
Republicans are simply doing what the people want….
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/repeal_of_health_care_law_favoroppose-1947.html
Perhaps you could references some polls that are less than 6 months old. Here are a collection of poll results from after the SC decision.
http://www.everydayhealth.com/healthy-living/0703/aca-opinion-polls-shows-americans-are-ready-to-move-on.aspx
Seems it is evenly split on the ACA (WSJ 47% pro ACA, 43% against). But Americans definitly say it is time for the Republicans to move on (56% to 44%).