House GOP stabbing ObamaCare voodoo doll one more time
It’s no surprise that House Republicans have gotten very good at this “repeal” thing, given the practice they’ve had at it. When they vote yet again today to kill ObamaCare, by some counts it will be the 31st time they have voted to repeal all or part of that much-reviled piece of legislation.
However, they’re not so good about keeping the second half of their 2010 campaign pledge, the part about “replacing” ObamaCare with a conservative alternative that accomplishes many of the same goals.
“Why is it so hard?” Matt Miller asks in a fine piece in today’s Washington Post. “Because Obamacare WAS the Republican alternative. It was the conservative-designed mandate and subsidy approach…. Only in America could a Democratic president pass Mitt Romney’s health plan and fund it partly through John McCain’s best idea from the last campaign (taxing some employer-provided plans) and be branded a ’socialist’.”
As I noted in the blog post earlier this morning, I’m always leery of pundits offering free advice on how a candidate should campaign, but I’ll make an exception in Miller’s case. He writes:
“Here’s what you should do, Mr. President. In the debates this fall, pull out a small laminated card you’ve had made as a prop for this purpose. Then remind Mitt Romney that the ranks of the uninsured today are equal to the combined populations of Oklahoma, Connecticut, Iowa, Mississippi, Kansas, Kentucky, Arkansas, Utah, Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico, West Virginia, Nebraska, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, North Dakota, South Dakota, Alaska, Vermont and Wyoming.
Read that list slowly, Mr. President. Then ask your opponent: “Would America turn its back on the citizens of these 25 states if everyone there lacked basic health coverage? That’s what we’ve been doing for decades. You knew it was right to act when you were governor of Massachusetts, Mitt. How can you pretend we don’t need to solve this for the nation? And how can you object with a straight face when your own pioneering plan was my model?”
The president should also say he’d be happy to talk reform once Republicans offer a rival plan that the CBO certifies will cover 30 million people, as the Affordable Care Act does.
Today’s Republican party won’t do it. They want the money for tax cuts for the top. They don’t care.”
Well put, Mr. Miller. Very well put.
– Jay Bookman
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middle of the road
July 11th, 2012
12:35 pm
“Once again, Bookman, this country is not in favor of giving socialized medicine to the 15 percent who don’t have insurance while holding the 85 percent hostage.”
This is what we have been doing ever since EMTALA was passed! We pay for the 15% of “free riders” using the insurance premiums from the rest (85%) of us.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
July 11th, 2012
12:35 pm
rags@12:22 to quote from your earlier posting………………..
“(1) Abolish FDA power to prohibit sale of a drug or device”
Whether it is the meaning or not, the effect of which would cause biotechs to no longer deem it necessary to conduct long expense trials on the efficacy and safely profile of their drugs. The FDA prohibits sale of drugs until it meets the requirements set forth to protect the public. If this power is abolished the net effect is the return of the snake oil salesman.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
12:36 pm
“Alright, I’ll bite. Care to explain?”
yeah sure, that statement is not true.
Jeez. What a complete embarrassment.
Unless in the fourth grade, where it MIGHT be viewed as clever…
ragnar danneskjold
July 11th, 2012
12:36 pm
Dear Joe @ 12:25, I forgot that you cannot digest more than a 10-word argument. Nevertheless, for the thinkers on this blog, you counter-post is revelatory.
Bernie
July 11th, 2012
12:37 pm
Today is the first time Mitt has been around so many people of Color at one time.
I would have loved to get a reading of his Heart rate and pulse upon entering, during and exiting that last speech!
Surely, being the “COMEDIAN” he is so famously admired for is full of laughable comments! only to be said in “QUIET ROOMS”
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 11th, 2012
12:37 pm
Ragnar
Yes, it involves a lot of nanny state
But it would be voluntary nanny statism because it would be a choice, not a requirement
Don't Forget
July 11th, 2012
12:37 pm
Obamacare isn’t the GOP’s voodoo doll, it’s their catnip toy.
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 11th, 2012
12:38 pm
Bro
binge session of shrooms and everclear
#-) %-) %)
ragnar danneskjold
July 11th, 2012
12:38 pm
Dear East Cobb @ 12:35, I respectfully ask whether you know the difference between a stick, and a carrot? If you give the FDA a power to exempt litigation, would that not serve an even greater cost-savings purpose than that power to prohibit? Plus, that would allow low-risk protocols to come to market without the burdensome government procedures. Trials are useful in some cases, and irrelevant in others.
St Simons
July 11th, 2012
12:39 pm
just to clarify, cons, he said ‘voodoo doll’ not ‘blowup doll’
see, i would’ve said ‘blowup doll’ and then snuck (south Georgia for
sneaked) in a ‘crammed down our throats’ reference, but that would
be ‘piling on’
which is why great spirit made me an accountant & not a writer
middle of the road
July 11th, 2012
12:40 pm
What REALLY burns my butt is that when the “conservatives” had the opportunity to make reasonable discourse, and offer compromises, and try to get a better law passsed, they REFUSED. They could have insisted on Tort Reform as part of the law to hold down medical expenses, and they could have fought against the provision requiring businesses to provide insurance for their workers (these are two things I would have liked to change about this law). But they neglected their DUTY to LEAD and work out compromises with the other party! Or if they had worked out compromises, and then been voted down by the Democrats, they could have used it politically against them. I am SO tired of the partisan politics in Washington!
ragnar danneskjold
July 11th, 2012
12:40 pm
Dear jm @ 12:37, apologies for my clumsy writing. I like your idea. I invoke the specter of the nanny state only because that is who would oppose your idea – you do not allow “them” to control the individual.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 11th, 2012
12:41 pm
“Today is the first time Mitt has been around so many people of Color at one time.
I would have loved to get a reading of his Heart rate and pulse upon entering, during and exiting that last speech!”
False
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
12:41 pm
I often write that I am the only liberal on this blog, as opposed to “leftist.”
Writing something does not automatically make it correct, factual, or even believable.
we can agree that I think individuals should be able to elect their treatments without the permission of FDA bureaucrats.
So, you think I’d agree to someone being able to buy something just because a person says it’s ok for them to use without any verifiable proof or course of action for negligence of the claim. I was born in July, but it was not in the year 2012. You’re nucking futs if you think I’d agree to something like that. Not with the mindset that companies have in this day and age. I might as well take a chance of relieving a headache by parachuting without a parachute.
ragnar danneskjold
July 11th, 2012
12:42 pm
Dear middle @ 12:40, four Pinocchios for your post. Republicans were not even given the chance to read the legislation before the vote, much less suggest intelligent alternatives to the state control of the industry.
ken
July 11th, 2012
12:43 pm
Jay, the majority DO NOT WANT OBAMA CARE . Not hard to understand.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
12:44 pm
R. Danneskjold — “Dear Joe @ 12:25, I forgot that you cannot digest more than a 10-word argument.”
You used to be polite. Then when I exposed you as a raging statist, you started getting nasty. Amazing how that happens, isn’t it? (laughing, pointing) ;D
“Nevertheless, for the thinkers on this blog, you counter-post is revelatory.”
As is this hypocritical snippet from an earlier post of yours on this thread:
” Other than the overlord compulsion to tell us all how we have to live our lives, your voluntary plan is great”
Pretty remakable how a hypocritical statist such as yourself can keep deluding himself into thinking that he’s a libertarian and in favor of greater freedom from the individual — especially when you’re in favor of using coercive state power to force people to make medical decisions not based on sound medical advice, but on personal and emotional considerations of your own.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 11th, 2012
12:45 pm
Ragnar agreed
Assuming these exchanges happen, they should have as many choices as possible without od’ing on complexity
Aquagirl
July 11th, 2012
12:45 pm
If you give the FDA a power to exempt litigation, would that not serve an even greater cost-savings purpose than that power to prohibit?
Call me a nanny-statist, but the idea of an average jury trying to evaluate safety and efficacy based on legal wrangling after the fact is damned scary.
I thought cons were for tort limits because juries are considered too stupid and emotional for that sort of judgement anyhow.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
12:45 pm
kyle is a dictator.
This blog is freedom.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
12:45 pm
R. Danneskjold — “Dear East Cobb @ 12:35, I respectfully ask whether you know the difference between a stick, and a carrot?”
Folks, Rags is asking because he actually needs help with that. He also may require assistance to distinguish his hind end from a hole in the ground
Brosephus™
July 11th, 2012
12:48 pm
Seems like Ragnar is working at trying to get a Kamchak Corollary certified post. He needs to improve his stuff though…
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
12:48 pm
Aquagirl — “I thought cons were for tort limits because juries are considered too stupid and emotional for that sort of judgement anyhow.”
Strange, isn’t it, how cons seem to think that juries are competent to decide innocence or guilt in possible death-penalty cases, but when it comes to the disposition of a few hundred thousand dollars, or a million or two, all in compensatory and/or punitive damages in medical malpractice cases, how a jury suddenly isn’t fit to even hear the case, let alone decide it?
getalife
July 11th, 2012
12:48 pm
kem,
63 million Americans are the majority.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
12:51 pm
JHM — are you shocked at a failure of consistent logic and thought? new here?
getalife
July 11th, 2012
12:51 pm
ACA is the law of the land.
This issue is over.
You lost cons so tell your failed party to focus on jobs they ran on in 10.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
July 11th, 2012
12:51 pm
rags @ 12:38,
So not only should biotechs not bother with trials for new medications, but they should be exempted from lawsuits as a result of the drugs not working or have disasterous side effects? Sure that is a great cost savings to the companies and more profits to line the pockets of the executives. But the people who actually use these drugs with the hope for refief from their suffering, they can rest easy knowing that costs were reduced whether or not they received any benefit from the drugs marketed as providing a cure.
Sure why not? SCOTUS also ruled the same week as the ACA ruling that lying was protected as free speech. So let the drugs companies claim their snake oil cures AIDS & Cancer without any data to back it up. Caveat Emptor!
Oscar
July 11th, 2012
12:52 pm
Eighty five per cent or more of Americans wanted to get rid of the pre-existing conditions clauses and wanted insurance they would not lose if they changed jobs.
That is why the Affordable Care Act will not be repealed and why Romeny will lose if he keeps talking about repealing it.
No GOP member including Romeny has come up with a plan that does that other than National Heath care, one-payor plan or Affordable Care Act. The Affordable Care Act, is in fact, the GOP plan – Herigage Foundation,Newt and Romeny’s plan.
stranger in a strange land
July 11th, 2012
12:53 pm
ragnar @ 1224 – provoke on!
Jefferson
July 11th, 2012
12:53 pm
I like it when you cram it down the GOP throats, they seemed moved.
JohnnyReb
July 11th, 2012
12:54 pm
Once again, Jay and other Lefties don’t get it.
Playing the pity card just does not get it. It does not move the needle on the meter. It may move it for bleeding hearts, and that would be fine if they wanted to fix the problem with just their money. But, no, they want to use others money.
It’s not that Republicans do not want people to have healthcare coverage. No, its about giving it to them for free and how it’s paid for. It’s about the biggest expansion of the federal government in our history. It’s about doing the intent of Obamacare but within the private sector and free market.
Obamacare will be repealed. It’s just a matter of time.
St Simons
July 11th, 2012
12:54 pm
josef I think that (ha-i-ke-t) has something to do with the bushism
‘fool me once…shame on you…
or it could be a dark humor. can’t you read that, from the native
point of view as “chief of the tribe of himself?” which would be
an insult in our culture, but seems to be a badge of ‘honor’
for example, a couple of these trolls, (everybody knows who).
dam, I keep forgetting, we’re the savages….
Donovan
July 11th, 2012
12:56 pm
Joe Hussein Mamma
I went to your reference site. Are you kidding me? You hand me off to ology.com? This is the left wing crap that hard wires your brain? No wonder I can’t get through to you people.
Just one look at the pictures of the people involved with this site tells a normal person what to expect. Just reading the script from this site is lunacy.
Nice try, lib. Now go out and get a job.
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
12:59 pm
JohnnyReb- “Obamacare will be repealed. It’s just a matter of time.”
Sure, all you need is a majority in the House and Senate and a Republican POTUS. Which is why I still don’t understand people supporting Romney just because he says he’s going to repeal it. He has neither the majority or the power to do so, but continues to pretend that he’ll have it all wrapped up by breakfast on his first day.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 11th, 2012
1:00 pm
JHM – 12:45 –
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
July 11th, 2012
1:00 pm
enough if this dead horse, outa here
tiredofIT
July 11th, 2012
1:00 pm
“If you like waiting in long lines and becoming a number instead of a person, you’re going to love Obama Care!”
—
People actually pay to do that at Disney World.
Oscar
July 11th, 2012
1:01 pm
JohnnyReb
July 11th, 2012
12:54 pm
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You must want to go back to the pre-existing conditions clauses. Not many people are going to agree with you on that.
Jefferson
July 11th, 2012
1:01 pm
JR would probably die 1st, I hope he doesn’t and it is improved.
Fred ™
July 11th, 2012
1:02 pm
ragnar danneskjold
July 11th, 2012
12:42 pm
Dear middle @ 12:40, four Pinocchios for your post. Republicans were not even given the chance to read the legislation before the vote, much less suggest intelligent alternatives to the state control of the industry.
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Holy crap. Who are you and what have you done with Ragsie? Finally a post from Rags that is not only TRUE, but also accurate.
The WHOLE crux of the ACA is the fact that those idiots Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid told the Republicans to sit down and shut the hell up. They (the Democrats) had a large enough majority to pass the bill and didn’t want the Republicans to say a DAMN thing. They shoved it down their throats and rubbed their noses in it. The Republicans have been getting payback ever since.
The Republicans were mad that they didn’t get a say so in who gets to steal all that money. Had the Democrats not been so damn greedy and tossed the Republicans of few bones and pay-offs instead of stealing it all themselves, we wouldn’t be in this mess today. They (the republicans) don’t give a fat rats ass about the plan itself, they just need to have a say so in how the rip offs and pay offs go. THEIR contributors need to get paid back with profit as well as the Democrats.
Oscar
July 11th, 2012
1:02 pm
Republican POTUS
_____
It was a Republican, John Roberts that upheld the law. They will need more than that.
tiredofIT
July 11th, 2012
1:05 pm
“THEY DON’T WANT OBAMACARE. That fact is in the books and you know it.”
—
How many tens of millions of dollars and 24 hour talk time have the republicans spent telling their followers they don’t want it.
Jefferson
July 11th, 2012
1:06 pm
Next week ACA won’t be much to bitch about.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
1:06 pm
The gop did not even bother to write a replacement bill.
Waste of the people’s time and money.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
1:08 pm
Lets focus on what the gop ran on.
Jobs.
josef
July 11th, 2012
1:09 pm
Hey, y’all, cut Kyle a little slack…look at the mess he had to clean up.
St. SIMON’s…
I’ve always found those terms for the “others” to be interesting. The origins are often quite the opposite in derivation. The term “wop” for Italians comes from the Spanish word “guapo-handsome.” When the Italians first started to come into New York in large numbers, they settled in neighborhoods with large Cuban populations. The Cubans found them good looking and thus called them “guapos.” I always get a chuckle with the term “Polak…” It’s nothing more than just Polish word of Polish (person”, same with “yid.”
And savage? As you know, Chickasaw and Choctaw are essentially the same language. But in Choctaw the word for “savage, barbarian” is Chickasaw and vice versa.
And why in English is the only nationality name to end in -ard, Spaniard? The suffix -ard is a negative adjectival suffix and the term goes back to the time of the Armada, was a slur, and now it’s the acceptable….
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
1:09 pm
Donovan — “Joe Hussein Mamma I went to your reference site. Are you kidding me? You hand me off to ology.com? This is the left wing crap that hard wires your brain? No wonder I can’t get through to you people.”
Hey, Chimpy. Can you not follow the link to the WashPost poll, just out in the last day, that debunks your claim? (laughing, pointing)
“Just one look at the pictures of the people involved with this site tells a normal person what to expect. Just reading the script from this site is lunacy.”
You can’t, can you? You can’t even follow a link! I *knew* it. (laughing)
You’re spouting incorrect and debunked talking points because you can’t follow an internet link. (giggling)
“Nice try, lib. Now go out and get a job.”
I’ve got one, thanks. Now get back to yours. I’ll have a double cheeseburger, small onion rings and a Diet Coke with very little ice.
getalife
July 11th, 2012
1:09 pm
Why is drudgey in black and white?
getalife
July 11th, 2012
1:11 pm
I was allowed to post on kyle’s blog but it closes at 7.
Part time blog.
stands for decibels
July 11th, 2012
1:12 pm
Why is drudgey in black and white?
psst. We’re on super-secret TardCon5 alert. Pass it on.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
1:12 pm
Every single one of the House Republicans won election by a majority of voters in their district in Novembr 2010, not long after the passage of Obamacare by the previous Pelosi-led House.
Coincidence????????????????
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 11th, 2012
1:13 pm
Well, all I know is if you shove it down their throats they won’t be able to bite pillows.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
1:14 pm
“Today’s Republican party won’t do it. They want the money for tax cuts for the top.”
Have the Republicans in House or Senate proposed tax cuts for the top? Introduced any such legislation? Brought it up for a vote? Is Romney saying any such thing?
Fred ™
July 11th, 2012
1:15 pm
josef? Who is Kyle and who’s not giving him a break?
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
1:16 pm
Bush cut taxes for the lower and middle classes. Fact. Deal with it.
Onama’Pelosi/Reid exyended the so-called “Bush tax cuts” all by their liberal Democrat selves. Fact. Deal with it.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
1:17 pm
Obama cut funding for senior citizens by cutting the social security tax from 6.2% to 4%.
Fact. Deal with it.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
1:18 pm
Is raising taxes on the rich the only bullet the liberal Barney Fife’s have in their gun?
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
1:20 pm
“House GOP stabbing ObamaCare voodoo doll one more time”
Followed by 100+ blog posts from the usual lib blog suspects stabbing the tax cuts for the rich voodoo doll one more time.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
1:22 pm
getalife
July 11th, 2012
1:08 pm
“Lets focus on what the gop ran on.
Jobs.”
Oh no, I think that’s the LAST thing Bookman or his minders at the DNC want us to focus on.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
1:23 pm
Romney has touted his tax plan as good for the middle class, with tax cuts for everyone. But while millionaires would indeed get a giant tax cut — worth hundreds of thousands of dollars — more than two million African-American working class families would lose their current tax credits for children and earned income.
Reality not Shock and Nonsense.
JohnnyReb
July 11th, 2012
1:23 pm
.
Preexisting conditions can be covered in a National poll.
The reason Repubs don’t have a replacement plan is, they unlike Democrats will consider input from the other side of the aisle.
And Butch, come November it will be clear Republicans control lock, stock and barrel. Repeal will be immediate.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
1:23 pm
Americans paid the lowest tax rates in 30 years to the federal government in 2009, in part because of tax cuts President Obama sought to combat the Great Recession, congressional budget analysts said Tuesday. [...]
During Obama’s first year in office, the average tax rate paid by all households fell to 17.4 percent, down from 19.9 percent in 2007, according to the CBO. The 2009 rate was significantly lower than the previous low of 19.4 percent in 2003 and well below the 30-year average of 21 percent
More reality
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
1:25 pm
Day one for Romney will be a week…. or more likely, weak.
Lucky for us, its all imaginery.
They BOTH suck
July 11th, 2012
1:25 pm
“Every single one of the House Republicans won election by a majority of voters in their district in Novembr 2010″
Unless there is a viable 3rd party that takes a significant portion of the vote, which elections do not end with someone getting the majority?
just sayn
JohnnyReb
July 11th, 2012
1:25 pm
Oh yea – someone please throw out that Washington Post poll where Romney and Barry are even. Then explain to all of us how it was the poll included 9% more Democrats than Repubs. Reality – Obama down by 9.
F. Sinkwich
July 11th, 2012
1:26 pm
“Small business owners may feel they’ve gotten quite enough help from the current administration. The Small Business Optimism Index fell 3 points in June to 91.4, the National Federation of Independent Business reported Tuesday. That’s the lowest level since last October and the biggest one-month drop in two years. Net employment at small firms declined…”
O’bozo has to go.
Our economic health depends on it.
Dekalb comments
July 11th, 2012
1:29 pm
Donovan @ 12:13
Please explain, specifically how the ACA is “socialized medicine”. You can’t because it is not true.
Socialized medicine is a system in which the entire health care system is owned and operated by a government entity. The VA system is socialized medicine which, by most accounts, is not perfect but pretty good at doing what it needs to do. A socialized system is where the clinics, hospitals, etc. are all government owned facilities. A socialized system is where the doctors, nurses, etc. are government employees.
The ACA does NOTHING close to that. In fact it expands the PRVATE health care insurance system we have today.
Steve
July 11th, 2012
1:29 pm
I’d bet a lot of money that Obama easily wins in 2012. Sorry, conservatives
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
1:30 pm
Is raising taxes on the rich the only bullet the liberal Barney Fife’s have in their gun?
Socialism — BOO!
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
1:32 pm
J. Reb — “Oh yea – someone please throw out that Washington Post poll where Romney and Barry are even.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postabcpoll_20120708.html
“Then explain to all of us how it was the poll included 9% more Democrats than Repubs. Reality – Obama down by 9.”
Have you had at least a year of Statistics at the college/university level? If not, then there’s not much point in me explaining it to you.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
1:33 pm
Oh noes…… Obama and the UN have a secret plan to confiscate Barney Fife’s gun…. so all you will have is a bullet.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 11th, 2012
1:33 pm
D. Comments — “The VA system is socialized medicine which, by most accounts, is not perfect but pretty good at doing what it needs to do.”
I’ve had major surgery at the local VAMC, and I was quite pleased at the quality of care I received.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
1:35 pm
Oh look…Kammypoo is online. Guess they have wi-fi at DragonCon this year.
Funny to see the guy(?) too terrified to face life without government handouts talking about monsters and ghosts though.
massachusetts refugee
July 11th, 2012
1:35 pm
jreb – you sir are delusional. the house may well stay in republican hands, but the Rs will never have the 60 votes needed in the Senate to repeal anything. oh, and a democratic president may also have something to say about repeal.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 11th, 2012
1:36 pm
“The reason Repubs don’t have a replacement plan is, they unlike Democrats will consider input from the other side of the aisle.”
Doubtful on many levels johnnyreb
josef
July 11th, 2012
1:36 pm
FRED
Kyle Wingfield…conservative AJC blog host…the fools went to fracas on his blog and created a whooplah he had to clean up…
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
1:36 pm
“I’d bet a lot of money that Obama easily wins in 2012. ”
You know what they say about a fool and his money…….
Steve
July 11th, 2012
1:38 pm
Oh, Ben – you do live in a reality of hopeful delusion, don’t you?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
1:38 pm
You know what they say about a fool and his money…….
Am I the only one on pins and needles waiting for Ben to tell us what happened to his money?
JohnnyReb
July 11th, 2012
1:39 pm
So, JHM can explain how a poll with 9% more Democrats than Republicans produces an accurate outcome of Barry vs Mitt.
Ignore me, I only have some college (but enough to become a 1 percenter) and no, I don’t have one year of statistics unless you count the measurements of the coeds. But please do explain to those here you consider intelligent enough to understand.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
July 11th, 2012
1:39 pm
Funny to see the guy(?) too terrified to face life without government handouts talking about monsters and ghosts though.
I’m growing my own vegetables, sport.
In fact I was out picking beans until I got rained out.
And as I have explained to you numerous times — I’ve never been to DragonCon.
josef
July 11th, 2012
1:40 pm
DeKalb
Put the crash helmet on, ’cause you’re beating your head against a wall trying to dispel the socialist meme with that lot…usually as soon as I see it, I scroll on (not always, but usually) Theirs is not a language I speak, read or write.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
1:41 pm
Dekalb comments, regrading Donovan, you might as well have written that in Latin.
Like rags, Joseph and others here, the guy lives, breaths and craps Fox News talking points.
And by god if they say it is socialized medicine, it IS socialized medicine!!
OF COURSE the VA rocks. It is the GOLD STANDARD of health care! And completely blows away the “free market” system. LOL!!!
Why?
It is a single-payer system.
And they have removed the immoral incompetents and layer after layer after layer of profiteers and paper shuffling bureaucrats at Blue Cross/Blue Shiled and Aetna and the other giant HMOs etc from the equation.
SINGLE PAYER NOW.
EVERYBODY IN, NOBODY OUT.
193 more days
July 11th, 2012
1:41 pm
Someone wanta bet that before the election, O’Bama forgives all student loans…………..
JohnnyReb
July 11th, 2012
1:41 pm
massachusetts refugee
July 11th, 2012
1:35 pm
jreb – you sir are delusional. the house may well stay in republican hands, but the Rs will never have the 60 votes needed in the Senate to repeal anything. oh, and a democratic president may also have something to say about repeal.
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We don’t need 60 in the Senate. Since Obamacare is officially a tax, it can be considered under Reconciliation, just like it was passed. We will have enough.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
1:42 pm
“And as I have explained to you numerous times — I’ve never been to DragonCon.”
Yeah right.
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
1:42 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
1:38 pm
BAZINGA!!
Butch Cassidy
July 11th, 2012
1:42 pm
Ben Shockley – “Coincidence????????????????”
Not really. People were disappointed in the Obama adminstration for spending so much time on healthcare reform and so little on jobs, that when the Republicans promised to create jobs if elected, they naturally won a majority. Unfortunately, they’ve spent the last 2 years focusing on Obama and Obamacare instead of jobs as promised, which could hurt them come election time.
stands for decibels
July 11th, 2012
1:42 pm
Have you had at least a year of Statistics at the college/university level?
It’s like Tom Petty sang: “The weighting is the hardest part.”
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
1:43 pm
“Someone wanta bet that before the election, O’Bama forgives all student loans…………..”
He’d get my wife and I’s vote in a heart beat.
cloudodust
July 11th, 2012
1:43 pm
As Independence Day slowly becomes Dependence Days, we’re witnessing class warfare for the greediest amongst us : Those that want something for nothing.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
1:44 pm
We don’t need to control both houses to repeal Obamacare, nor have 60 seats in the senate. All we need is for President Romney to instruct the IRS not to prosecute people who fail to pay the tax. Just like Obama has done with illegal immigrants.
Aquagirl
July 11th, 2012
1:44 pm
Well, all I know is if you shove it down their throats they won’t be able to bite pillows.
And then the treadmill is good for nothing more than a clothes hanger. So when Republicans get fat and have a heart attack, it’s Obamacare’s fault.
Con logic—it’s really easy once you get the hang of it.
Ben Shockley
July 11th, 2012
1:45 pm
“He’d get my wife and I’s vote in a heart beat.”
Anybody surprised that a liberal wold be willing to shirk his/her financial obligations?
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
1:45 pm
You know what they say about a fool and his money……
Which explains why Ben will go nowhere near Intrade!!
I’m tellin’ ya, Benji, there is some real easy money to be made there by you big talking dirt poor cons!
It sure beats waiting for Donnie Trump to trickle down on you!
Steve
July 11th, 2012
1:47 pm
Where is the Tea Party now, folks? Shouldn’t they be in an uproar about the Rino Romney who is just another George Bush on steroids, and the Tea Party is no fan of George Bush?
josef
July 11th, 2012
1:47 pm
SFD
“It’s like Tom Petty sang: “The weighting is the hardest part.”
I nominate that one for line of the day!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 11th, 2012
1:47 pm
Actually when I had an office downtown, walking around and seeing the DragonCon attendees was actually kind of fun. But alas, misguided Benie just is not informed as usual. Dragon*Con is August 31-Sept 3 this year.
Benie, perhaps you mistakenly signed up for Troll*Con? Be careful, I don’t think that is free Wi-Fi….I think they are spoofs meant for the foolish …. This warning may be not too late for you.
Peadawg
July 11th, 2012
1:48 pm
“Anybody surprised that a liberal”
You don’t know me very well.
JamVet
July 11th, 2012
1:50 pm
The Tea Party???
They are desperately trying to run away from their depraved darlings in Illinois (Walsh) and Florida (West).
Both one and doners…