I guess it’s no surprise that someone with a deep affection for the relatively obscure movie “That Thing You Do,” not to mention a nom de blogue of “stands for decibels,” would have a deep appreciation for music, particularly music of a particular era. From what little we know of him from his postings, he is also a fan of Rachel Maddow and Eric Blair, and one of the calmer voices on an often cacophonous blog.
He is also tonight’s guest host. Ladies and gentlemen, sfd:
“I’d been thinking about some pretext to recommend a tune by a band whose song “Start!” is one that’s somewhat familiar to American ears, and while it may not be my absolute favorite ever-ever by the Jam, I gave it another listen last night and heard some elements I hadn’t previously considered.
For starters, it’s not necessarily specific to the “start” of any particular kind of relationship–it might be about connecting with a potential lover, or a friend, of maybe just a fan. (Given that I was as big a fan as one could be when they recorded it, I wanted to believe that last one.) Musically, when you consider bandleader Paul Weller’s unabashed love for mid-60s rock, it’s kind of a one-song homage to all three composers of the Revolver lp–the opening riff is lifted from George’s “Taxman,” the solo could’ve been part of John’s “Tomorrow Never Knows,” and the bit of horns is a nod to Paul’s “Got to Get You into My Life.”
I could regale you with personal connections to this band, but suffice to say this tune appeared on an album that was released whilst I was sharing a house with a bandmate, wherein we rehearsed in the basement, and we covered more of the Jam’s tunes than we should. I loved their sound, dug the look, and I envied the massive following they had in Britain while being dumbfounded as to why they couldn’t get more of an audience here in the states. (as to that last bit: now it’s obvious. 1) they were just too English for most Americans to digest, and 2) the Jam likely didn’t give enough of a crap to adjust their sound, and tone down their accents, to make themselves more marketable here.)
If you’re not familiar with their catalog, they did six albums–all have some classic nuggets within, but you can’t go wrong with the 3rd, 4th, or the 5th album (Sound Affects), from which “Start” is a part.
And back, for just a bit, to the sentiments expressed? I think it’s true of what we try to do at your blog, with one another. We don’t always really understand each other, we get p–ed off and fight over the silliest of reasons, but it’s different sides, talking to each other, sort of. And at least it’s a start.”
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getalife
July 6th, 2012
4:34 pm
Firsty?
carlosgvv
July 6th, 2012
4:37 pm
“they were just too English for most Americans”
“didn’t give enough of a crap to adjust their sound”
Oh really? Does that mean that American bands popular in England “adjust their sound”?
And, just for the heck of it, how do you know what “most Americans” were thinking? Do “most Americans” all think alike”?
Jay, your “calmer voice” has really muddled thinking on this one.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
4:40 pm
stands and Jay
as to the sentiment….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tEH_YYqEH0
Love to all
getalife
July 6th, 2012
4:41 pm
The is jam db:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9j5xjw2EbY
Thanks to the real Joe Walsh.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
4:42 pm
oh and what the hell…
same artist also to the sentiment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faBq36pNEYM
his na na nas make me melt.
josef
July 6th, 2012
4:42 pm
SFD
Here ya go….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXmPEsuipUw
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
4:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuN6gs0AJls
getalife
July 6th, 2012
4:46 pm
For those who like to rock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNf7NMbd6vc&feature=related
The new Metallica is out.
josef
July 6th, 2012
4:47 pm
SFD
Was poking around looking for a cut, found this…some things are timeless and cut across all genres, eh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mEGwnfeGaM&feature=related
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
4:49 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zelVvrgcK_g&feature=related
Joe (Strummer) the Plutocrat
July 6th, 2012
4:51 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1V7fYeBAkc
when would be the appropriate time to investigate the impact of the new wave mullet?
JamVet
July 6th, 2012
4:55 pm
sfd, great song! I dig their punkish Fab Four sound…
getalife, great cover of a great song.
Groovy Granny, you KNOW how completely addicted I am to Todd Rundgren’s music. And that Robert Palmer version of Can We Still be Friends is an incredibly sweet one.
You may or may not have read this story that I’ve shared here before, but one day back in 2004 I was at the gym and got talking to this young black fellow that I didn’t know and the conversation turned to music. He shared with me how sad he was that Palmer had died so young.
I always love it when my construction of the world and the people in it gets blown away.
One world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK1_7eKtkDg
josef
July 6th, 2012
4:55 pm
BOTH
Well, if that’s the decade and its English you want…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1NrQYXjLU
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
4:56 pm
scout
inside and out……..
Matti
July 6th, 2012
4:59 pm
stands,
I can dig it!
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
4:59 pm
josef
Good one. Hope Billy’s hand and wrist didn’t get too tired
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOgCjTXVnWk&feature=related
Tom Middleton
July 6th, 2012
5:00 pm
Couldn’t decide if I should post here or two comments back, Jay, so if I’ve chosen wrong, I apologize and just delete it.
But given we’ve created 4.4 million jobs under President Obama in 28 straight months of growth, we need a gentle-but-serious reminder that under Mitt Romney this would stop.
If the austerity measures being proposed by the Republicans would work for us in the future, they would be working for Europe now and they’re not, not even close.
So from the Hatfields and McCoys, here’s “It’s a Long Road Down,” featuring the great Lisbeth Scott. What a magical, incredible voice of a wonderful musician and singer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xfa_NhevjM&feature=relmfu&noredirect=1
Like your song, sfd! I grew up during “the invasion” and wouldn’t have missed it for the world. It was the start that’s never stopped for sure!
That Black Guy
July 6th, 2012
5:00 pm
Enter your comments here
Jay
July 6th, 2012
5:00 pm
carlos carlos carlos ….
Soothsayer
July 6th, 2012
5:01 pm
Always liked this RP song.
Richard
July 6th, 2012
5:01 pm
I probably would have gone for Tube Station at Midnight or Going Underground.
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:04 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC-nmyVEmRw
carlosgvv
July 6th, 2012
5:05 pm
Jay – 5:00
It’s clear that, oftentimes, I’m the only one here willing to state the obvious.
Why that is I do not know.
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:06 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQdaSpEeBvQ
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:08 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I3S8lPM6qM&feature=related
Thomas Heyward Jr.
July 6th, 2012
5:10 pm
Its all about evolution.
.
Some people do…some people don’t.
.
The Clash , Po0gues, Pixies…….maybe some New york Dolls……….ultimantly to the Jam.
.
Democrat,Republican..then the Lefty/Righty Progressive………then ultimantly Ron Paul Libertarianism.
.
Some people never do evolve fully.
.
Anyhow…….good tune SFD…and good band.
.
In the same purple vein.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wun5Cg-xr-s
.
Thomas
July 6th, 2012
5:10 pm
Hey- what happened. There we all were having an extremely cordial pro life/choice debate, solving the world’s problems one issue at a time over tea and then this-
I am truly pissed and refuse to pay my July dues.
RL
July 6th, 2012
5:12 pm
Jay – don’t agree with you much but if you are a Jam fan, there is hope for you.
They are great.
Bet they are right-wingers!
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:12 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6siGKxcKol0
Jay
July 6th, 2012
5:13 pm
Fine, Carlos. We all agree — you have a flair for the obvious.
Oscar
July 6th, 2012
5:14 pm
Tom Middleton – English folk songs are good. Here is the best.
Baraba Allen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFHTJ08U_Fg
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:15 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UOpZg77LKg&feature=related
josef
July 6th, 2012
5:16 pm
BOTH
That’s one of my all time favorites from the decade…here’s backatcha on Brit 80s Angst…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3j2NYZ8FKs
JAY
What would FNM be without our t*rd in the punchbowl…TRADITION!
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7HNJVnn9Ms&feature=related
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:18 pm
josef
nice call on the Pet Shop Boys
Never was a “fan”, but always thought that was a cool tune
Soothsayer
July 6th, 2012
5:18 pm
I’d like to go a concert that was a 3-hour jam by this guy!
Native Atlantan
July 6th, 2012
5:19 pm
Late to the party…did we do this one yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Gn0e7kvTA
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:22 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1IiPkQa2iY
Tom Middleton
July 6th, 2012
5:22 pm
Oscar
An oldie but goodie for sure, Oscar – almost an antique. And was she young there or what? And let’s don’t forget Fairport Convention with the great Richard Thompson. “Matti Grove” comes to mind immediately!
JamVet
July 6th, 2012
5:22 pm
Arguably the greatest American band of that decade…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNw8mC5wT30
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
5:22 pm
sfd: but it’s different sides, talking to each other, sort of. And at least it’s a start.”
That’s so true. Some of us must learn something, even if it’s by osmosis.
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVJXOOAfvIo&feature=related
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:25 pm
Joan Jett
she was a rocknrolla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RAQXg0IdfI
Native Atlantan
July 6th, 2012
5:27 pm
And, in honor of the London Olympics…..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vHvzybkqfo
Native Atlantan
July 6th, 2012
5:27 pm
Oops http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vHvzybkqfo
josef
July 6th, 2012
5:29 pm
ZamVet/BOTH
Yeah, I know it was their “top 40″ but still their best to me…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5SBE78ZOM&feature=related
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:30 pm
josef
Top 40 or not, that is a great song
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:31 pm
josef
Speaking of Top 40. This song is a jammn tune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mu8m8_-tRo
josef
July 6th, 2012
5:32 pm
More good stuff from back then…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK3uf5V0pDA&feature=related
JamVet
July 6th, 2012
5:34 pm
You might think I’m crazy
To hang around with you (LOL!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8oZZJojROo&feature=player_embedded
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:36 pm
josef
back at ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKzoXuEkk00&feature=related
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:37 pm
Who can forget this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc3Sa4n0rS8&feature=related
carlosgvv
July 6th, 2012
5:38 pm
Jay – 5:13
Unfortunately, the obvious seems to make many here very uncomfortable.
I get the impression they feel that if it is ignored, it will just go away.
This gives both you and I pretty good idea of the immaturity of many here.
St Simons
July 6th, 2012
5:38 pm
‘what you give is what you get’
‘You only get what you give’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9bS6JFlueI
yeah, mon, your tribe is starting to get it…
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:38 pm
And with this tune, I say to everyone…… have a great night and an even better weekend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG07WSu7Q9w&feature=related
josef
July 6th, 2012
5:39 pm
BOTH
Unmentionable and I were talking about Phil Collins the other day and how he, well, at the time was just sort of “okay, yeah, not bad…” and now listening in and looking back how much he really does stand out from the crowd…and that’s saying a lot, given the crowd…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2mbGP6vFI&feature=artistob&playnext=1&list=TLF5H3j5cFHGY
Paulo977
July 6th, 2012
5:40 pm
Oscar
Joan is just one of the best …….!!!!!!!
Here is???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQhKqlOccHE
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:40 pm
The RICHARD is out and about tonight
If you don’t get help at Charter, please get help
Peace
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
5:41 pm
Happy Friday all!
I’ve been waiting all week to put this one up.
http://youtu.be/2XRXOjllwX4
Bob Loblaw
July 6th, 2012
5:43 pm
Dig the Jam, Jay. Very Talking Heads-ish.
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:43 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNIZofPB8ZM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS6t56U9tBg
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
5:45 pm
and now, I am really really out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2VBmHOYpV8
carlos: try to enjoy your weekend.
josef
July 6th, 2012
5:46 pm
CARLOS
Ignore it and it’ll go away. Nyanh, we’re under no delusions there. We tried it with you and it didn’t work.
G Mare
July 6th, 2012
5:49 pm
They both, THANK YOU for the Joan Jett. Had to sample a few of her others.
St Simons
July 6th, 2012
5:51 pm
I stopped believing for a little while today.
Journey is gonna be so pissed.
josef
July 6th, 2012
5:51 pm
Hey, we gotta get a little Miami Vice in…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4ueaD22hg8&feature=related
Paulo977
July 6th, 2012
5:54 pm
They Both suck @ 5:36p.m
great combination of movement and voice….
So much about life in this next one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maAyfcO-X3k&feature=related
JamVet
July 6th, 2012
5:55 pm
heathen, hysterical.
Early head music…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XFYMjkFYPg
Oscar
July 6th, 2012
5:55 pm
British singers Tom Jones – Welsh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI5LWwC-cE8&feature=related
josef
July 6th, 2012
5:57 pm
HEAThEN
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
6:03 pm
BOTH: If you stand too close these days, you’ll see the Po-lice for sure.
josef
July 6th, 2012
6:10 pm
OSCAR
Nobody quite like him…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn5jihgsY2s
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
6:13 pm
On this date in 1925, William Clifton “Bill” Haley was born. On this date in 1955, this song reached #1 on the charts and is considered to be the song, more than any other, that brought rock and roll into main stream culture around the world. Also on this date in 1955, the godless heathen came into the world and so I’ve always considered that I truly grew up with Rock and Roll.
http://youtu.be/F5fsqYctXgM
St Simons
July 6th, 2012
6:16 pm
my gwinnett neighbors, back in da dey-o, still very active in
the Ga Democratic party – go Wayne Famous! (from Moultrie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzZVhwa2sSA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9aSjhOhJvY
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
6:27 pm
Jam, I had forgotten all about that Titantic song. Hilarious.
Rich
July 6th, 2012
6:47 pm
Too much of a tinnie sound and takes me back to the old sound of the 60s British rock groups. Their sound is like black and white TV. Pretty dull.
G Mare
July 6th, 2012
6:49 pm
Thanks, godless heathen, for the memories. I was 15 when ROCK AROUND THE CLOCK burst upon us, and it still stirs my heart & soul after all these years.
G Mare
July 6th, 2012
6:54 pm
Rich, I also remember black & white tv. It was the only thing available & we loved it. The MICKEY MOUSE CLUB, the Army McCarthy hearings, the ED SULLIVAN SHOW, WHAT’S MY LINE?
Yes, I remember it; what will you remember fondly when you are 71?
Rightwing Troll
July 6th, 2012
6:57 pm
Can’t discuss the Jam without A Town Called Malice…
http://youtu.be/YfpRm-p7qlY
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
7:05 pm
Yes, I remember it; what will you remember fondly when you are 71?
I hope I am just remembering at 71. Fondly or otherwise.
Paulo977
July 6th, 2012
7:08 pm
josef
Nobody!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QabEgTRFGQ0&feature=related
josef
July 6th, 2012
7:16 pm
GMARE
I may have posted it several times, but when I’m 71…?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LHMTxd5eDw&feature=related
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:20 pm
Shucks. Thanks, Jay.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:21 pm
Was poking around looking for a cut, found this…some things are timeless and cut across all genres, eh?
Nice one, Josef–I’d never heard that one.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:22 pm
one of the calmer voices on an often cacophonous blog.
I don’t have to sit here and take that kind of abuse.
josef
July 6th, 2012
7:24 pm
PAULO
One of my family’s nicknames for me is don Quixote… and Tom Jones’ version of my “theme song” is one of my favorites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3oE8M1XjzI
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:26 pm
Too much of a tinnie sound and takes me back to the old sound of the 60s British rock groups.
I can kind of see why someone might think that of “Start.”
The Jam had different kinds of sounds on different albums. If you’re looking for something a bit heavier, might I recommend the Setting Sons lp, from which this youthful take on aging is sample…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN9JEXI8adM
(Music kicks ass, but the lyrics are enough to harsh yer buzz.)
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:27 pm
Can’t discuss the Jam without A Town Called Malice…
from their last lp, which I really wanted to love, but merely respected and–in retrospect–kinda understand why Paul broke up the band and moved on to the Style Council, afterwards.
But that tune’s a classic, of course.
josef
July 6th, 2012
7:29 pm
SFD
Howdy do! Glad to see ya here… nice pick, BTW…
“I don’t have to sit here and take that kind of abuse.”
Well, you can…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKKqLl_ZEEY&feature=related
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:31 pm
The new Metallica is out.
They didn’t invite Lou Reed to yell at them during a rehearsal again, did they?
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:38 pm
Oh really? Does that mean that American bands popular in England “adjust their sound”?
I think if you know the Jam and its lead singer fairly well, as I do, and you were listening to pop music a lot in 1977-82, during much of that time yes, a lot of Brit acts would dial it back a bit. And Paul didn’t bother to.
And, just for the heck of it, how do you know what “most Americans” were thinking? Do “most Americans” all think alike”?
of course not. I’m an American, I loved them, so did lots of folks I knew/know.
My point (which, for the record, I knocked out over breakfast before work in about six minutes and maybe could’ve expressed a tad more artfully) is that the Jam could’ve made themselves more marketable here in the US, if they wanted to, but I don’t think they wanted to because–well, maybe because they didn’t especially need to.
F. Sinkwich
July 6th, 2012
7:40 pm
As long as we’re getting “started,” saw this on AJC.com:
“New ID requirements for license renewal irritate many.”
Seems like a lotta peeps are pissed about having to show up with a bunch of ID just to get the ol’ DL.
State brought this aggravation upon themselves. Apparently this has to happen because of the Feds and homeland security and such. It’s obvious had the state staggered applications this all could have been mitigated to a large degree.
Week one: Anyone with “Mohammad” or say “Akmed” as a name and the like would have to show up.
Week two: Anyone with “Jose” or say “Juan” as a name and the like would have to show up.
Maybe more than a week, I dunno.
I am such a genius!
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:41 pm
when would be the appropriate time to investigate the impact of the new wave mullet?
hee… er… now…Don’t be dissin’ my man Bruce Foxton. He can’t help that his c. 1978 ‘do became adopted by those unworthy of it.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:43 pm
I grew up during “the invasion” and wouldn’t have missed it for the world.
I’m old enough to have very faint recollections of Ed Sullivan appearances. I wish I could say I actually remember the Fabs’ American debut, but I don’t. Just remember the ‘mania.
josef
July 6th, 2012
7:44 pm
Oh, dear! Tonight’s punchbowl has two t*rds…
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
7:45 pm
“New ID requirements for license renewal irritate many.”
My bro works for DDS IT and they knew this nightmare was coming. They were told, “Whatever you do, make sure you can undo it in a hurry.” LOL
josef
July 6th, 2012
7:47 pm
SFD
The Fabs…! I remember the invasion and the mania well… Mama was a big fan…let me and my brother grow our hair out Beatles style and went down to the schoolhouse and dared them to say one more word…
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:48 pm
I probably would have gone for Tube Station at Midnight or Going Underground.
Oh, if I were going for my favorite ever-ever Jam tune, I’d agree. Tube Station tells and unforgettable story; Going Underground expresses sentiments we’ve all expressed when we’ve grown sick of the political status quo.
But what Jay cut from my poorly-edited email, was that I had intended this to coincide with discussions we were having on the PPACA. “At least it’s a start,” is a phrase I’ve heard literally dozens of people say in defense of the legislation. Hence, this selection.
But a week later, that’s not what we’re talking about, and Jay needed to edit me down to something presentable. (Appreciate cleaning up my little bit of mild profanity, Jay!)
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
7:49 pm
Oh, dear! Tonight’s punchbowl has two t*rds…
A floater and a sinker?
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:50 pm
Tonight’s punchbowl has two t*rds…
Man, I HATE the sequel to “Heather Has Two Mommies.”
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:52 pm
yo Godless! Happy Birthday, mon ami!
JamVet
July 6th, 2012
7:53 pm
Sandwich, FOAD.
Happy bday, heathen! Ya youngster! (I got ya by a few months. Grin!)
For us 55 babies…
Well my time went so quickly
I went lickety splitly out to my old fifty-five
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnsRjEuPf90
F. Sinkwich
July 6th, 2012
7:53 pm
Some people, like gh, just can’t recognize genius when they see it.
Sigh……
F. Sinkwich
July 6th, 2012
7:56 pm
“Sandwich, FOAD.”
Jamie, I guess you missed my missive from yesterday:
FU.
Nothing personal, obviously…
F. Sinkwich
July 6th, 2012
7:57 pm
Meant Jammie.
Sorry.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
7:59 pm
Unmentionable and I were talking about Phil Collins the other day and how he, well, at the time was just sort of “okay, yeah, not bad…”
I’ll confess, Phil gets lifetime immunity from getting knocked around for his hummable fluff for having drummed on Eno’s Another Green World.
From which this ditty is sampled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXDrTZMVINo
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:00 pm
Sandwich, FOAD.
Sounds like short-order-cookspeak.
getalife
July 6th, 2012
8:02 pm
You can’t even get the names right genius.
Music thread not drama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dq9q6afIP8
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
8:04 pm
Went to the tag office today and renewed my tags. They offered me the In God We Trust sticker to go over the county name on my plate. At first I declined, but on 2nd thought I got one. Just got through applying it to my tag after a little cut and paste. IN DOG WE TRUST, it says. You suppose some Conservative Christian right-wing Republican straight white American male COP will put a beat-down on me somewhere?
josef
July 6th, 2012
8:07 pm
ZamVet
Great minds, I had that birthday song pulled up and ready to post…beat me to it!
SFD
Got it on the other screen to play…great choice…
SINKWICH
Funny you should check in…just checked my e-mail and had one from my cousin Jack. He said to tell your ilk that we’re NOT plantation liberals…we’re Hottentot Socialists!
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:08 pm
The Jam covered this and put out the single lickety-split after Keith Moon passed away.
(I love the Who original, but there’s something even more informed/bittersweet about this one.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KZStaufcHg
getalife
July 6th, 2012
8:09 pm
Not if he has a drug sniffing dog godless.
G Mare
July 6th, 2012
8:09 pm
Ah, thanks for the Elvis, Josef. I “can’t remember” a song of his I didn’t like, but “Love Me Tender” is my all time fav. It was the first slow song he did. We teenaged girls went MAD.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:10 pm
Godless, mrs. sfd chuckled at your bit of artful transposition @ 8.04. (As did I.)
And you’d have to be pretty messed up to take actual offense at such a thing, however you find yourself on the theism spectrum.
josef
July 6th, 2012
8:11 pm
ooops….SINKWICH…that was supposed to have been said in music…it’s FNM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq3a2Ttxvdw
Oscar
July 6th, 2012
8:16 pm
More Tom Jones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_V0fI2nJrc&feature=related
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:16 pm
you all know my screen handle is based on an early/mid 80s power pop outfit’s debut album, right?
Did you know that after 30 years, the original line-up reunited, played SXSW, and have a new lp out?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9CwLD1Yrvo
…and it sounds pretty damn good.
JamVet
July 6th, 2012
8:17 pm
stands at 8:00, LOL.
The man is rude, crude and socially unacceptable.
ALL THE TIME.
jonix, well at least one of us is brilliant. (Not sure who, though! Must be you!)
stands, what a nice little song! I never heard it before. Even by that slightly more famous English band. LOL!
…according to the All Music Guide, it is “one of the Who’s most covered songs”. Shaun Cassidy, Primal Scream, The Breeders, and most notably The Jam are among the many artists who have recorded studio versions of the song.
Beyond the sheer number of covers, it is also one of The Who’s most frequently imitated songs. As the aforementioned AMG put it, it is “an archetypal early Who song” and “hundreds of bands have based their entire careers on this one song”. With its ringing guitars, Beach Boys-styled harmonies, crashing drums, and lovelorn lyrics, it is one of the early forebears of the power pop genre, along with other early Who staples such as “I Can’t Explain” and “The Kids Are Alright”.
The original…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E5d-G-hFLo
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:18 pm
anyway, nice chatting, but it’s time to watch some ‘ball on telly with the fambly.
Have an excellent evening, all.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 6th, 2012
8:20 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgYqIvnPvqQ&ob=av2n
josef
July 6th, 2012
8:34 pm
ZamVet
You would have brought up the Breeders…
Hey MATTI this is for you…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpoqzt2EHaA
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
8:34 pm
sfd And you’d have to be pretty messed up to take actual offense at such a thing, however you find yourself on the theism spectrum.
It might even be illegal. “Unauthorized attachment to the motor vehicle license plate.” or some such rot. Bring it on, State of Georgia.
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
8:35 pm
Jam. Like that ol’ 55 tune. That was a very good year.
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
8:39 pm
OK, since the demise of ol’ Anj got us all TV nostalgic, how about this one? Dumb as hell, but stays in your head.
http://youtu.be/h2-zD5lj8Hg
Don't Forget
July 6th, 2012
8:53 pm
Andy doin one of my favorite “traditionals”, and different verses than I’d heard before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZqe4qUTBGc
G Mare
July 6th, 2012
8:58 pm
Yeah, I remember that show, Godless, but never heard the song.
G Mare
July 6th, 2012
9:15 pm
Phil Collins hmmm. Didn’t he do a song about a hammer? Yes, I could google it, but since I don’t know how to post it (I am old, ya know), I figure one of you younguns will find it.
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
9:24 pm
Bonanza and Disney were some of the first shows to be in Color. I remember us visiting other folks in the community so we could see them on Color TV. It was cool, Even if the Cartwrights were on green horses.
josef
July 6th, 2012
9:28 pm
From the band to…well, you know who you are…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBZ8ulc5NTg&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL7B857138EFA10116
Oscar
July 6th, 2012
9:32 pm
G Mare Couldn’t find a hammer. Is this close enough?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF3fd_DOChM
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 6th, 2012
9:35 pm
Well, after the 6th or 7th PBR up here at Billy Bob’s, I sometimes start thinking of things that might of been. And there’s nobody that sings a might-of-been song better than Harry Chapin. Now I know that some people don’t take to Harry too good. And he ain’t exackly a favorite with the trucking crowd. He managed to get hisself run over and kilt by a 18-wheeler on the Long Island Expressway and give truckers a bad name. But while he was alive he was really something. So this one’s been running thru my head all day, and while I’m ordering my 8th I thought I’d give you all “Taxi”. I got nothing against sfd and his music, you understand. It’s just that it don’t go too well with PBR and the might-of-been mood. Have a good weekend everybody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5dwksSbD34
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
9:41 pm
Oh sh*t josef, you got me into the Beatles youtube cuts. I may be here all night. Thanks.
josef
July 6th, 2012
9:42 pm
GMARE
No luck here either…the song “In the Air Tonight” was written Jan Hammer who also scored several of the songs from Miami Vice…
josef
July 6th, 2012
9:43 pm
HEATHEN
Yeah, I did it to myself, too…had to force myself off…
Tom Middleton
July 6th, 2012
9:49 pm
sfd@7:43
There were always lots and lots of young girls screaming. Man, Beatle haircuts, jelly bellies, and fake British accents caught on pretty quickly after that., even here in the South.
Hell, I even remember when Elvis sang “Hound Dog” to a hound dog on Ed Sullivan. They had to make him wiggle less (Elvis, not the dog) for TV back then or they would’ve had to shut ol’ Ed down.
G Mare
July 6th, 2012
9:50 pm
Most anything with Clampton will certainly do, Oscar.
I looked for the hammer song, too. Will have to do further research.
Then, of course, apropos of nothing, there is Jerry Lee Lewis. What a scandal he was back in the day re the 13 yr old cuzin. Man could do a tune tho.
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
9:50 pm
Oscar, no reflection on you, but I hate that song. I could be AQ in gitmo and if they wanted me to talk, they could play that song twice and I would spill my guts. If I were Bill Gates, i would spend my last dime to eradicate it from the planet. Stupid, insipid, redundant, simplistic, bad, awful, horrendous, horrible. Claptons’s kid didn’t fall off of that high rise balcony. He found out that his father recorded that song and HE JUMPED!!
But that’s just my opinion.
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
RC, “Taxi” If she only knew how many times I sang that song for her.
G Mare
July 6th, 2012
10:00 pm
Wasn’t Phil Collins. Peter Gabriel’s SLEDGEHAMMER. For some reason, I thought it was a really poor song. Will now search for the lyrics to confirm that opinion. Or not. The memory plays tricks sometimes.
Oscar
July 6th, 2012
10:00 pm
godless heathen
_____________
Enough holding back, now tell us what you really think.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
10:01 pm
Just checking in–
I think the Jam, on their raucous, amped-up debut lp, voiced sentiments that many here, from differing political allegiances, might be inclined to agree with.
Who makes the rules that make people select?
Who is to judge that your ways are correct?
The media-as-watchdog is absolute sh-t,
The TV’s telling you what to think.
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
10:02 pm
Enough holding back, now tell us what you really think.
It’s got a nice beat that you can dance to.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
10:03 pm
Can’t believe JamVet had never heard “So Sad About Us” until tonight. Well better late than never.
I’ve probably heard it a hundred times, and never tire of Keef’s drumming on that one.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
10:04 pm
I’d no idea what GH was on about ’til I got to the last line of his rant.
And then I laughed. (Although I actually do–dare I say it? happen to like that tune.)
Oscar
July 6th, 2012
10:06 pm
Sledgehammer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1qOUfGUD2Y
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
10:07 pm
i don’t know why, but many years ago, I got it into my head to sing “Smeg-hammer,” laughed at my own stupid “joke,” and I never hear it any other way now.
(sharing is caring!)
Oscar
July 6th, 2012
10:10 pm
I worked – and partied – with a girl that called Wallbangers Ballbangers. Nobody ever corrected her.
Doesn’t have to do with anything, I know.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 6th, 2012
10:10 pm
godless heathen @ 8:04
No ……….. that’s probably a state violation. Have at it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 6th, 2012
10:10 pm
Enter your comments hereHeadline: “Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% !”
Come on ! We need more of those illiegal aliens El Jeffe !
Too many African Americans are working !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 6th, 2012
10:12 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF_m0v_S6B8
G Mare
July 6th, 2012
10:21 pm
Yeah, thanks, Oscar. I did find it & it’s just as dumb as I remember it!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 6th, 2012
10:28 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah3vTq2ZxYk
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
10:31 pm
I worked – and partied – with a girl that called Wallbangers Ballbangers.
Hey, I banged her. LOL
godless heathen
July 6th, 2012
10:35 pm
I’m posting this is a counter to Peter Gabriel. (Because I can.) Nice mandolin work.
http://youtu.be/_r-M9gipm9s
G Mare
July 6th, 2012
11:03 pm
Godless, eewwew, but funny.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 6th, 2012
11:26 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7zZUH6y3cc
ld
July 7th, 2012
12:00 am
A lot of tunes that begin as “good” music “end” poorly as the artists just get shrill and/or repeat the same line or two ad naseum. Since I have an off button, these kinds of “jams” are toast.
Bud Wiser
July 7th, 2012
6:09 am
My old roommate in college owned one of the original Beatles album covers for Yesterday and Today, featuring the famed ‘butcher’ cover that had the paste-over. (look it up on Wikipedia if you’re too young to remember) Great great great bass on this one.
I dedicate this to the original Fab Four !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MapMPHJObO8
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
8:00 am
featuring the famed ‘butcher’ cover that had the paste-over.
Which (as you may already know), spawned lots of speculation from fans, long after the fact, as to what it really meant. I don’t think there was anything subliminal in the message, myself.
Here’s a classic web essay–glad to see it’s still available, I first read it years ago–on the topic, and well beyond. Mostly it focuses on what Capitol Records did to the original UK Beatles releases before they got to the States.
http://www.eskimo.com/~bpentium/whobutch.html
There’s a wonderful web-essay, still up there, that goes into a great deal of detail
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
8:14 am
(oops, sorry about neglecting to chop that last sentence, @ 8.00.)
Bud Wiser
July 7th, 2012
8:29 am
I suspect that Apple records spawned partially from all the controversy and bickering with Capital and EMI, eventually resulting in (what else?) lawsuits.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
8:33 am
Yeah, they’d been screwed royally over publishing rights and Apple records represented an attempt to control their own business destiny. Irony was that infighting over business management, more than anything else, is what really broke them up of course.
Gotta run (lit’rully.) later, maybe…
Thomas
July 7th, 2012
9:54 am
A little Saturday morning reading about one of the great heroes of the day-
Uncle Sam is suing Warren Buffett’s company over taxes. Yes, taxes. The US government, in a little-followed case in Ohio, filed a lawsuit this month against a unit of Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway, seeking $366 million in taxes and penalties. The Berkshire division at the centre of the suit is NetJets, the private-aircraft company that caters to the nation’s wealthiest – the people Buffett says should pay more in taxes.
It is an odd twist that a company controlled by Buffett – perhaps the most outspoken businessman in the country in support of raising taxes on the ‘mega-rich’ – is now in a dispute with the government over his company’s paying too little in taxes.”
But it gets better… Buffett’s NetJets has now filed a lawsuit against the IRS.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
10:03 am
And thanks to you Georgia Republicans, we have this ultra-corrupt POS as our governor:
A series of draft advisory opinions from the state ethics commission could spell more trouble for Gov. Nathan Deal.
A commission attorney recently released four draft opinions — interpretations of state ethics laws — that will likely play a significant role in deciding whether a series of complaints filed against Deal move forward.
The commission meets July 23 and is expected to take up five complaints pending against Deal. The complaints, largely based on reporting by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, accuse Deal of:
1) Personally profiting from his campaign’s aircraft rentals
2) Improperly using state campaign funds for legal bills related to a federal ethics investigation
3) Accepting campaign contributions in excess of legal limits.
But the good news?
Thousands and thousands of Georgia Republicans are feeling the long-term effects of compassionate conservatism!
Nearly one in five Georgians now gets federal assistance to put dinner on the table.
As Congress debates the future of the food stamp program, with Republicans looking to cut it back, the number of recipients in Georgia has ballooned to 1.9 million as of April, or nearly 20 percent of the population. The state’s 0.4 percent increase from March was the seventh largest growth rate in the country, making Georgia one of 13 states where the number of beneficiaries rose, according to data compiled by the nonprofit Food Research and Action Center.
You’re doing a heckuva job, connies…
larry
July 7th, 2012
10:26 am
As Congress debates the future of the food stamp program, with Republicans looking to cut it back,
That should go well with their jobs bill that they have……er…..um…..wait…………..didnt they campaign on …oh nevermind.
carlosgvv
July 7th, 2012
10:37 am
JamVet
Cons got what they truly deserved in electing Deal as Guv. Unfortunately, they saddled us normals with what we most definitely don’t deserve.
The same may happen in Nov. I believe “compassionate conservatives” truly deserve someone like Romney, who apparently never met an outsourcing he didn’t like. However, there’s no way to give them who they truly deserve without giving us this same Big Business outsourcer.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
10:46 am
Headline: “Obama: Most People “Would Acknowledge That I’ve Tried Real Hard”
Poor baby !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
10:47 am
Headline (Reuters): “Dismal hiring shows economy stuck in low gear”
“U.S. employers hired at a dismal pace in June, raising pressure on the Federal Reserve to do more to boost the economy and dealing another setback to President Barack Obama’s reelection bid.”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
10:49 am
Headline (New York Times): “Job Weakness Starts to Shape Election Tone”
“It is increasingly apparent what the economy will look like when President Obama faces voters in November: pretty much what it looks like today.”
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
10:55 am
U.S. employers hired at a dismal pace in June.
Except for in India..
Thanks, Bain Capital…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
10:59 am
Willard Mitt Romney — Outsourcer-in-Chief
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
11:00 am
From the Keep Your Mythology Out of My Government file…
American Atheists flew a banner over New York City on July 4, 2012. The banner behind the airplane read, “Atheism Is Patriotic – atheists.org.”
Dave Silverman, President of American Atheists, said, “In 2011, American Atheists attempted to fly a banner in all fifty states on July 4th, but ran into discrimination from companies that refused to fly the banner. This year we are concentrating on New York City where the most powerful symbol of American freedom resides: the Statue of Liberty.”
Mr. Silverman continued, “Religion is unpatriotic at its core, because it places its law above the law of the land. Indeed, religion abhors civil law, which is why we see attacks against science and privacy coming from our religious politicians. Religion asserts itself on the population at large by infiltrating the political system with true believers who will then use the political system to do the church’s bidding.”
Teresa MacBain, Public Relations Director of American Atheists and former pastor, stated, “As a pastor I often reminded my congregants that ‘God’s law was higher than man’s law.’ What that really meant was that the people should take orders from the church, above our civil government. Atheism, being the absence of any religious beliefs, implies that human law alone is supreme over humanity. Here in America, the highest law is in Washington DC, not some fictional heaven. That’s patriotic.”
Silverman concluded, “I ask all citizens to remember that the separation of church and state benefits everyone, except the preachers and the politicians in their pockets. Religious equality only comes from Government neutrality. Celebrate your Independence.”
American Atheists defends civil rights of Atheists, freethinkers and other nonbelievers and works for the total separation of church-mosque-temple and state; and addresses issues of First Amendment public policy.
As a woman who proudly served on active duty in the United States Army, I can attest to the fact that there are many Atheists in foxholes. I was one of them.
Celebrate your freedom and independence!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:02 am
Headline: “Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% !”
Thanks Obama !
Come on ! We need more of those illiegal aliens you want !
Too many African Americans are working !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:03 am
Barack Hussein Obama – Illegal Alien Insourcer-in-Chief
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:07 am
“Religion is unpatriotic at its core, because it places its law above the law of the land. Indeed, religion abhors civil law, which is why we see attacks against science and privacy coming from our religious politicians.” Dave Silverman
“It is the duty of nations as well as men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon, and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history: that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord.”
Abraham Lincoln
“The Bible, the Word of God, has made a unique contribution in shaping the United States as a distinctive and blessed nation ………… Deeply held convictions springing from the Holy Scriptures led to the early settlement of our nation ………. Biblical teaching inspired concepts of CIVIL GOVERNMENT (emphasis added) that are contained in our Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States.”
The United States Congress
carlosgvv
July 7th, 2012
11:08 am
Scout
How do you think those 12 million plus illegsls got to stay here in the first place? Big Business bribed lawmakers, especially Republicans, to look the other way so they could hire cheap labor and not be bothered by those pesky social security and insurance costs.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
11:09 am
There is NO place in our White House for a corporate raider who delighted in helping ruin the dreams of countless working class Americans. HIS success was predicated on OUR failure.
The good news is that he will be just another footnote in Obama’s biography…
(CNN) — Under the heat of increased media focus and a flurry of ads from the Obama campaign, Republican nominee Mitt Romney’s time atop Bain Capital is increasingly viewed negatively by swing state voters.
So it must be something else: It must be that the brighter spotlight on Romney’s time at the helm of a firm with a penchant for investing in companies that shipped jobs overseas and that specialized in taking control of and breaking up companies is revealing something fundamental about a man who wants to lead our economy at a fragile, make-or-break moment.
The more the American people learn about Romney, the less they are comfortable with an economic philosophy seemingly predicated on dismantling weaker companies for personal benefit.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
11:09 am
According to you traitors, Lincoln was the devil incarnate, no?
LOL at your selective morality…
G Mare
July 7th, 2012
11:10 am
Thanks, Jamvet. That is a good counterpoint to some on here – no names. We all know who they are.
larry
July 7th, 2012
11:14 am
And this is the guy Romney is considering as his VP………….Please nominate him. Please!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/06/chris-christie-jersey-shore_n_1654583.html
This guy is fighting with everybody, teachers, Navy Seals, reporters, he doesnt get along with anyone.
larry
July 7th, 2012
11:17 am
Come on ! We need more of those illiegal aliens you want !
Its not the illegal immigrants im worried about.
Its those workers with HB1 and HB2 visa’s that businesses sponsor that worry me.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
11:19 am
Thanks, G Mare. Fascistic Christians in this country are MUCH more a danger to this republic than all the homicidal Muslims in other countries put together.
What else would you expect from a coward who actually said, “Corporations are people, my friend”???
A recent poll commissioned by NBC/WSJ found that more Americans see Romney’s time at Bain negatively than positively. In battleground states, which have seen the Obama campaign’s Bain ads more frequently, voters are nearly twice as likely to view this experience negatively.
This is more than just the predictable effect of a negative ad campaign. Increased media scrutiny is turning up more questions than answers, indicating that Romney and Bain frequently skirted toward legal gray areas.
A recently published expose in Vanity Fair shows that, while at Bain, Romney pressured his employees to use any means necessary to get information on its clients’ competitors, such as by pretending to be working on a project for graduate school. The story also found that Romney has as much as $30 million in Bain retirement funds in tax havens like the Cayman Islands.
Even if this alone were not enough to undermine Romney, it is clear that the Bain method has come to inform his broader economic philosophy. He continues to fail to specify whether he favors tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. He strenuously opposed Obama’s bailout of the auto industry, arguing instead in The New York Times that we should “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” in a managed way.
It is now very clear that Romney was wrong in that opinion. American auto manufacturers are surging to new profitability, and some experts are beginning to talk about a renaissance in American manufacturing.
larry
July 7th, 2012
11:19 am
Im sorry , its H1B and H2B visas.
Thomas
July 7th, 2012
11:19 am
Atlanta Beltline’s taxpayer-funded expenses raise questions
Shocking- let’s go 100mph ahead on the splot of tea thing though- we don’t want the internal folks to be giftless this hot summer
B.Morris
July 7th, 2012
11:24 am
ATLANTA – Good news for job seekers overall is bad news for those looking the longest as the state no longer qualifies for extended unemployment benefits because its jobless rate has improved.
The emergency federal benefit extension ends Saturday, the Georgia Department of Labor announced Tuesday.
Congress created the extended benefits in 2008 during the height of the recession for states struggling the worst. To qualify, a state’s unemployment rate had to be 9 percent or higher for the most recent three months.
Georgia’s rate dropped to 8.9 percent in April and has remained there, ending the state’s qualification for the added federal benefit.
The federal program is due to expire nationally in December.
http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia/2012-07-03/story/improved-jobs-picture-georgia-means-extended-unemployment-benefits
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:27 am
“According to you traitors, Lincoln was the devil incarnate, no?
LOL at your selective morality…”
Kind of like you libs. who like to quote from the Bible that you so despise !
Here’s another one:
“And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of thel people that these liberties are of the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever.” Thomas Jefferson
getalife
July 7th, 2012
11:30 am
It is amazing the gop extended unemployment for so long.
I guess that is as close as the gop will get to apologizing for their collapse.
I think if the gop win, it is time to stop blogging to prepare for a total collapse.
You know it will happen because the gop have not changed.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
11:32 am
Kind of like…
Good!
Admitting you have a problem is the first stage in recovery! Now, get some professional (secular) (LOL!) help!
Nationwide, more than 4,500 record-high daily temperatures have been set in the past 30 days, according to the National Climatic Data Center.
Thank gawd that the neocons are right about global warming being a hoax.
Think how hot it would be otherwise!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:32 am
“All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a superintending providence in our favor ……….. And have we now forgotten that powerful Friend? or do we imagine we no longer need His assistance ?
Dave Silverman and JamVet do.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
11:34 am
The relevant point today is that long-term investments in economic fundamentals like education, innovation and insourcing are exactly what we need our president to encourage over the next four years.
It seems to me that Romney would run the United States like he ran Bain. But despite all the bluster and misdirection from the right, the United States government cannot and should not be run like a business.
The United States has a responsibility to deliver more than profits. It has an obligation to protect its citizens and promote the general welfare. It must think strategically in the long term to guarantee these things, even if the decisions it makes do not offer an immediate return of investment of the size you can stash in an offshore account.
Our government must take collective action when individual action would be insufficient. This is the very heart of our social contract — and not too long ago, Republicans even believed it, too.
It is now incumbent on the Romney campaign to show that he understands this. If he does not, he will continue to lose swing state voters who do understand that we are not going to continue down the path to recovery by cutting our legs out from under us.
http://tinyurl.com/6qzhftf
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:37 am
P.S. @ 11:32 Benjamin Franklin
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
11:39 am
Powerful Friend?
Bwahahahahahaha!
With imaginary friends like him, who needs enemies?
The irony is that for the unread and uninformed for every pro-God Jefferson quote they can find, I can list five or ten that absolutely flame them, their Bible and their “friend”…
As Congress debates the future of the food stamp program, with Republicans looking to cut it back, the number of recipients in Georgia has ballooned to 1.9 million as of April, or nearly 20 percent of the population. The state’s 0.4 percent increase from March was the seventh largest growth rate in the country, making Georgia one of 13 states where the number of beneficiaries rose, according to data compiled by the nonprofit Food Research and Action Center.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
11:41 am
Just saw Ringo and the real Joe Walsh on CNN.
Today, Ringo is 72 and still touring with a new CD.
Peace and love.
larry
July 7th, 2012
11:41 am
It seems to me that Romney would run the United States like he ran Bain. But despite all the bluster and misdirection from the right, the United States government cannot and should not be run like a business.
And yet, they continue to try to do so.
Like my Mom used to say, there is hard-headiness and then there is just plain dumb.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
11:44 am
Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. ~Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes. ~-Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.
The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills. ~-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law. ~-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. ~-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814
You say you are a Calvinist. I am not. I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know. ~-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Ezra Stiles Ely, June 25, 1819
Priests…dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight and scowl on the fatal harbinger announcing the subversions of the duperies on which they live. ~-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Correa de Serra, April 11, 1820
There are MANY more…
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
11:49 am
0311
which
would you vote for, a catholic
bishop or a baptist deacon
for president given the
choice and no other info?
Brian
July 7th, 2012
11:51 am
We don’t always really understand each other, we get p–ed off and fight over the silliest of reasons, but it’s different sides, talking to each other, sort of. And at least it’s a start.”
Gad Zoosk!
JBookman invites lonely hearts to participate. LOL!
Virtual relationships are for losers.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
11:55 am
“Libyans Vote in First Election in More Than 40 Years”
Yeah, this President won his war.
Another major accomplishment.
assad will be killed or tried as a war criminal so he will be history.
Are there any dictators left?
We should never support any dictators because we stand for freedom.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:56 am
barking frog:
Baptist deacon if he didn’t go to Auburn.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:57 am
“The Congress ………. desirious ………… to have people of all ranks and degrees duly impressed with a solemn sense of God’s superintending providence, and of their duty, devoutly to rely ……… on His aid and direction ………. Do earnestly recommend …………. a day of humiliation, fasting and prayer; that we may, with united hearts, confess and bewail our manifold sins and transgressions, and, by a sincere repentance and amendment of life ………. and, through the merits and mediation of Jesus Christ, obtain His pardon and forgiveness.”
Continental Congress
May 16, 1776
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
11:58 am
0311
how about a Mormon
bishop or a Baptist deacon?
getalife
July 7th, 2012
11:59 am
Penalty flag thrown on barking frog.
A candidate’s religion is against the rules here.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
12:01 pm
getalife
which candidate would that
be?
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
12:03 pm
A candidate’s religion is against the rules here.
______________
Didn’t see that rule listed. Nobody asked me but I would go with the Baptist.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
12:03 pm
Your imaginary candidate frog.
We are better than that.
Just kidding frog, how about a Scientologist for Prez?
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
12:03 pm
getalife
and don’t you mean tax
flag?
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
12:04 pm
Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him [Jesus] by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others again of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism, and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being. ~-Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Short, April 13, 1820
To talk of immaterial existences is to talk of nothings. To say that the human soul, angels, god, are immaterial, is to say they are nothings, or that there is no god, no angels, no soul. I cannot reason otherwise: but I believe I am supported in my creed of materialism by Locke, Tracy, and Stewart. At what age of the Christian church this heresy of immaterialism, this masked atheism, crept in, I do not know. But heresy it certainly is. ~-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, Aug. 15, 1820
And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors. ~-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
It is between fifty and sixty years since I read it [the Apocalypse], and I then considered it merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams. ~-Thomas Jefferson, letter to General Alexander Smyth, Jan. 17, 1825
The guy rocked his era…
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
12:08 pm
getalife
Only if it came down to
a choice between two
scientologists and then i
might not vote.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
12:09 pm
“Don’t tell my heart, my achy breaky heart
I just don’t think it’d understand
And if you tell my heart, my achy breaky heart
He might blow up and kill this man”
– Thomas Jefferson
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
12:09 pm
Relgious preference is fine ……………. religious test is not.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
12:11 pm
Actually, he said something close to that:
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
12:13 pm
0311
your mos’es show you to
be a tank/amphibian
operator. was your favored
vehicle a sermon tank?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
12:14 pm
Riot porn.
WOLVERINES!
getalife
July 7th, 2012
12:20 pm
Yeah scout,
You are a hypocrite because you and the cons attacked our President for being a Christian.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
12:24 pm
scout must be losing his memory about the Rev. Wright looping attacks on fox but I will refresh his memory.
It was a religious test scout and you know it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
12:26 pm
barking frog:
No tanks for me ……… my brother was an Army tanker though ………. 3rd Armored.
Military
0311 Infantry
8541 Scout-Sniper
5811 Military Police
Civilian
1811 Criminal Investigator
1801 Investigator
getalife
July 7th, 2012
12:29 pm
“NADER: ‘Cowering’ Democrats Face Defeat…”
I don’t cower or think about being better than them.
I say nothing is off limits to keep the gop from destroying my country again.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
12:31 pm
0311
sorry i thought 1811 was the
marine mos for tank crew.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
12:33 pm
scout the investigator?
You only post rw bs without any investigation of the facts.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
12:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbuQ6APGYnQ
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
12:34 pm
The Real Reason Why Gaddafi Was Killed
Another viewpoint other than chest-pounding.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
12:35 pm
Virtual relationships are for losers.
That’s a rather quaint notion. I’ve a couple of very good friends who I only knew online, for years, before having an opportunity to meet in person. I imagine most who post here have similar stories to tell.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
12:35 pm
barking frog:
It may be but it’s also civlian designator for criminal investigator.
I asked for tanks in boot camp but because I was only in for a two year
active duty enlistment guess what I got?
Infantry !
getalife
July 7th, 2012
12:37 pm
Sooth,
No conspiracy left behind.
Libyans asked for our help and paid us back.
Libyans killed daffy
There is video proof.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
12:38 pm
1812 –M1A1 Tank Crewman
1833 –Assault Amphibious Vehicle (AAV) Crewmember
1834 –Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle (EFV) Crewman
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
12:41 pm
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
one of the dopier things T-Jeff ever wrote. The guy was smart, visionary even, but that line? Coming from a guy who never had to actually put himself physically on the line to defend his new Republic, it sounds like the kind of junk you hear from the warblogger neocons today.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
12:41 pm
“When I dance they call me macarena
and the boys they say that I´m buena
they all want me, they can´t have me
So they all come and dance beside me”
– Thomas Jefferson
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
12:44 pm
“Libyans asked for our help and paid us back.”
You mean the Western-backed “rebels?”
How about the estimated 50,000 – 100,000 innocent men, women, & children who were killed in the “NATO” (read American) airstrikes?
Think about that for just a moment. In Vietnam, 58,000 soldiers died. Here, far more than that were killed by us. Including women, children, and the elderly.
But, hey! Believe what you will. It’s a lot easier on the conscience that way.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
12:45 pm
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
He was right if he was talking about the Arab Spring.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
12:46 pm
“How about the estimated 50,000 – 100,000 innocent men, women, & children who were killed in the “NATO” (read American) airstrikes?”
Link Soooth?
That would probably be the numbers for a no fly zone in Syria.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
12:47 pm
“Arab Spring” has been hi-jacked by the Muslim Brotherhood.
An evil is being replaced by an even worse evil.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
12:49 pm
“Think about that for just a moment. In Vietnam, 58,000 soldiers died. Here, far more than that were killed by us. Including women, children, and the elderly.”
Terrorists have this thing about surrounding themselves with women and children ………. cowards that they are.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
12:50 pm
getalife
“Libyans killed daffy”
…
i didn’t know that duck was
dead. is donald still o.k.?
getalife
July 7th, 2012
12:52 pm
Your numbers are a lie Sooth:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/08/libya-war-died_n_953456.html
About 17, 000 killed in Syria so far.
frog,
I think both are no longer cartoon characters like daffy.
Marty
July 7th, 2012
12:52 pm
Terrorists have this thing about surrounding themselves with women and children
So do libs. LOL
getalife
July 7th, 2012
12:54 pm
scout,
How are the mb evil in Egypt?.
Is it a religious test?
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
12:55 pm
getalife
i think donald belongs to
disney so he’s o.k. but
daffy may be gone.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
1:02 pm
frog,
daffy never stood a chance after our President engaged with the victory of his no fly zone.
mccain would have us in the Syria civil war to abuse our troops more.
We dodged that bullet and must dodge the willard bullet.
The gop can’t be trusted with our economy or our military.
They proved this fact last time they had power.
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
1:02 pm
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/war-veterans-face-paying-1473446.html
They have received medals, commendations and cheers. Now, Georgia’s war veterans are getting something else from the state for the first time: A bill.
Lawmakers earlier this year authorized charging veterans a new residential fee if they live and receive care in the state’s two war veteran’s homes. The move aims to take advantage of a federal reimbursement program that helps veterans pay for assisted-living-type care. It is also a sign that times are still tough for state budgets.
Charging veterans to live in veteran’s homes established to help take care of them in order to receive federal cash. What will our esteemed leadership think of next? Whatever happened to that personal responsibility thing? The state of Georgia should pay for the care of their own veterans, as they have done in the past without trying to get Uncle Sam to pay for them. I guess the personal repsonsibility thing only applies to certain people and certain situations.
Thomas
July 7th, 2012
1:03 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkFQHScyti0
The best song about our current economic plan
We get blogs that show jobs added but fail to show folks falling off the payroll.
We get blogs about the “saving of the auto” industry but fail to report the 10’s of billions of underwater investment that isn’t coming back.
We get finger pointing about the housing mess but fail to talk about the FRE and FNM preferred shareholders that got screwed by good ol’ Hank Paulson
How about a blogger with a name paper stepping up and chastising both sides v. trying to hit his numbers by stirring it up—
just a thought-
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
1:03 pm
getalife
if it weren’t for global
warming it would 1 degree
cooler.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
1:08 pm
While the gop destroyed our country, China and Germany invested in their countries and now are leaders.
We used that cheap borrowed money for occupations and corporate welfare.
We are falling behind because we are not investing in our country.
Our President is trying but the gop refuse.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
1:10 pm
Damn, it’s back to a 2G signal again. It was a nice 4G while it lasted.
Something is suggesting that it’s time to mow the lawn.
Maybe I’ll be rewarded with 4G when I’m done.
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
1:11 pm
getalife: I’ve spent all this time looking for the link. I know that I read the numbers I mentioned, I just can’t find where at the moment.
Everyone has their own opinion.
My opinion is that what we (the West) is doing in all of these “liberations” is not what it appears.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
1:16 pm
Sooth,
They are fighting for their freedom like us.
There is no conspiracy and we lost no Americans in Libya.
Our President is ending the gop occupations and wants to nation build our country.
This is the right course.
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
1:18 pm
O-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-KAY!
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
1:20 pm
Out to do the yardwork.
Bernie
July 7th, 2012
1:22 pm
Funny how the Republicans spent a 3 trillion dollars on invading IRAQ and we ended up giving all of its people FREE 110% healthcare COVERAGE.
However when to comes to giving Americans the same benefit by President OBAMA its called Government take over of Healthcare!
THERE IS SOMETHING REALLY WRONG IN THAT!
getalife
July 7th, 2012
1:26 pm
After Iraq, I understand folks looking for conspiracies.
Our government is capable of evil things like admitting injecting std’s in humans for “studies”.
Anthrax, white phosphors bombs,nukes and many WMD’s have been used.
It is fair game.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
1:40 pm
“Our President is ending the gop occupations and wants to nation build our country.
This is the right course.”
Yes, problem is our president isn’t on it.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
1:44 pm
“My God, that’s all the corporal talks about,” Walsh said Sunday at a town hall. “Our true heroes, it’s the last thing in the world they talk about. That’s why we’re so indebted and in awe of what they’ve done.”
getalife
July 7th, 2012
1:53 pm
“Yes, problem is our president isn’t on it.”
Proof please.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
1:57 pm
Jam,
Funny, I listened to her stump speech and she covers the issues very well.
I think she is a great speaker for our troops too and will fight for them like Max.
G Mare
July 7th, 2012
2:02 pm
Rachel had her on Friday night. She is very ariculate & makes sense, not always the case with people who want to be our leaders.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
2:05 pm
get,
Hitting back on Friday, Duckworth said she spends “a majority of the time” talking about the issues and that Walsh was simply trying to distract from his record in Congress.
“It’s very irresponsible for Mr. Walsh, as a sitting congressman, to try to muzzle war veterans and keep them from talking about their service,” Duckworth said on “The Situation Room.”
It is becoming almost predictable.
The neocons have their never-served, loudmouth bullies and cowards – Chambliss, Cheney, McConnell, Boehner, Giuliani, Santorum, Allen, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Hannity, all of the PVAC stooges and Mitt Romney.
And for years now, the Democrats have had the overwhelming number of the veterans and true heroes…
getalife
July 7th, 2012
2:06 pm
jm,
No proof as usual.
Just stop lying.
Bernie
July 7th, 2012
2:07 pm
getalife @ 1:53 pm After all of the good works by the Republicans and George Bush….
Give me a Break! You should be thankful for a President OBAMA!
Voting against one’s own self interest is not a Virtue to aspire too!
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
2:12 pm
getalife
July 7th, 2012
1:08 pm
___________
I give you a half right on that. But it’s more complex than that. Globalizaion and competition with cheap labor from Asia was something that could not have been avoided. But W’s policies did make it worse.
Our idea was to let Asia make our shirts and shoes and we would make high tech equipment. Not worked out so for. And we are not educating the engineers and techs we need to treatd water, much less pick up market share.
Good thing for us is China realizes they have to raise wages and create domestic demand. They have to. We are about broke and can’t keep buying from them.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
2:16 pm
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
1:20 pm
Out to do the yardwork.
______________
Doing yardwork in this heat. Your standing as a reasonable sensible person just went down two notches.
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
2:34 pm
And for years now, the Democrats have had the overwhelming number of the veterans and true heroes…
Really? Who?
getalife
July 7th, 2012
2:44 pm
Bernie,
I support President Obama but the people are to blame for electing a broken corrupt congress.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
2:45 pm
Al Gore and John Kerry were in Viet Nam. W. was protecting South Alabama.
John Kennedy was in the South Pacific. truman was a major in WWI.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
2:48 pm
Gatling
July 7th, 2012
2:44 pm
_______________
Surely you don’t mean our two esteemed senators and our members of the house are corrupt and broken.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
2:49 pm
Rick Noriega, Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate from Texas — joined the U.S. Army in 1979; currently Lt. Colonel in Texas Army National Guard, served in Afghanistan.
Senator Jim Webb (D-VA) — rifle platoon and company commander with the Fifth Marine Regiment in the An Hoa Basin west of Danang; was awarded the Navy Cross, the Silver Star Medal, two Bronze Star Medals, and two Purple Hearts.
Representative Tim Walz, D-MN – Twenty-four years of service in the Army National Guard, retiring in 2005.
Representative Joe Sestak, D-PA – 31 years of service in the Navy, rising to the rank of Vice Admiral.
Representative Chris Carney, D-PA – Lieutenant Commander in the United States Naval Reserve, Carney served multiple tours overseas and was activated for Operation Enduring Freedom, Noble Eagle, and Southern Watch.
Representative Patrick Murphy, D-PA – extensive career in the U.S. Army from 1993-2004; earned Bronze Star and Presidential Unit Citation.
Representative Phil Hare, D-IL – Served in the United States Army Reserve for six years.
Representative Jack Murtha (D-PA) – distinguished 37-year career in the U.S. Marine Corps, Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts, retired from the Marine Corps Reserve as a colonel in 1990.
Former House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt – Missouri Air National Guard, 1965-71.
Representative David Bonior – Staff Sgt., United States Air Force 1968-72
Former Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle – 1st Lt., U.S. Air Force SAC 1969-72
Former Vice President Al Gore – enlisted August 1969; sent to Vietnam January 1971 as an army journalist, assigned to the 20th Engineer Brigade headquartered at Bien Hoa, an airbase twenty miles northeast of Saigon. More facts about Gore’s Service
Former Senator Bob Kerrey… Democrat… Lt. j.g., U.S. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam
Senator Daniel Inouye, US Army 1943-’47; Medal of Honor, World War Two
Senator John Kerry, Lt., U.S. Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat
Representative Charles Rangel, Staff Sgt., U.S. Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea
Former Senator Max Cleland, Captain, U.S. Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam
Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) – U.S. Army Reserve, 1968-1975.
Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) – U.S. Army, 1951-1953.
Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) – Lt., U.S. Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) – U.S. Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91
Former Senator Fritz Hollings (D-SC) – served as a U.S. Army officer in World War II, receiving the Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons. (1)
Representative Leonard Boswell (D-IA) – Lt. Col., U.S. Army 1956-76; two tours in Vietnam, two Distinguished Flying Crosses as a helicopter pilot, two Bronze Stars, and the Soldier’s Medal.
Former Representative “Pete” Peterson, Air Force Captain, POW, Ambassador to Viet Nam, and recipient of the Purple Heart, the Silver Star and the Legion of Merit.
Rep. Mike Thompson, D-CA: Staff sergeant/platoon leader with the 173rd Airborne Brigade, U.S. Army; was wounded and received a Purple Heart.
Bill McBride, Democratic Candidate for Florida Governor – volunteered and served as a U.S. Marine in Vietnam; awarded Bronze Star with a combat “V.”
Gray Davis, former California Governor, Army Captain in Vietnam; received Bronze Star.
Pete Stark, D-CA, served in the Air Force 1955-57
Wesley Clark, Democratic Presidential Candidate – 38-year career of public service in the Army, culminating as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO.
Chuck Robb, US Senator from Virginia, served in Vietnam
Howell Heflin… Democrat… Silver Star
George McGovern, famous liberal, awarded Silver Star & DFC, dozens of missions during WWII.
Former President Jimmy Carter, most recent recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize, seven years in the Navy. “Except for his fellow service-academy graduate Dwight Eisenhower, no President of the twentieth century spent more years in uniform than Carter.”
Former Presidential Nominee Mike Dukakis – United States Army, 1955-’57
Former Senator/Vice Presidential nominee Lloyd Bentsen – B-24 pilot in WWII 1942-’45, Squadron Commander; earned Distinguished Flying Cross, Air Medal with three Oak Leaf Clusters.
Former Vice President Walter Mondale, U.S. Army 1951-1953
Former Senator John Glenn, D-OH (1974-1999) – Served in WWII and Korea; extensive military commendations include the Distinguished Flying Cross on six occasions, and the Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
Congressman Tom Lantos, D-CA – Did not serve in the US military; did serve in the Hungarian anti-Nazi underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg, is the only Holocaust survivor to serve in Congress.
Representative Bud Cramer (D-AL) – joined the Army as a tank officer in 1972; served at Fort Knox, Kentucky, and continued military service as a member of the Army Reserve from 1976 to 1978
Lt. Col. Charles Brown – California 4th District – 26-year career in USAF; jet and helicopter pilot; awarded Distinguished Flying Cross for bravery in the Mayaguez incident.
Eric Massa – New Yorks 29th District – 24 years service in the Navy; also served as aide to NATO Supreme Allied Commander, General Wesley Clark.
And Iraq war veterans:
Paul Hackett – U.S. Senate – Ohio
David Harris – Texas 6th Congressional District
David Ashe – Virginia’s 2nd Congressional District
Andrew Duck – Maryland 6th Congressional District
Tim Dunn – North Carolina’s 8th Congressional District
Andrew Horne — Kentucky’s 3rd Congressional District.
Among others…
Tom Middleton
July 7th, 2012
2:52 pm
JamVet@12:04
Jam, Jefferson was just a man, not a god. And to quote him like he was a god is silly considering his many foibles as a man, like owning slaves while he believed that “all men are created equal.”
And since we can put Sally Hemings squarely in the middle of that and find a man often at odds with himself, at least on issues of individual morality, we can only conclude that he could not have understood the complete message of Jesus, no matter how hard he tried.
It’s kind of like Bruno was with me: Lots of strong opinion passed off as fact, with absolutely no attempt to show the logic of how he got there. All I had to do with Bruno was go at him for the logic and existential proof that he had tried to live what he said he’d read, understood and was condemning, and he walked away. In other words, he was as empty on matters of religion with me as Jefferson in your quotes.
It’s said in other traditions that the mind is a “terrible master but a wonderful servant.” And for Jefferson to even allow himself to believe his conclusions about religion were always right, was not a man being quite as bright as we know he could sometimes be, especially given his contradictory character and willingness to do what’s wrong.
It’s like I told Bruno, true religion is NOT an academic pursuit, but an ongoing way of life. And since Jefferson did not try to live it as Jesus said we must as followers, he could never have understood it, no matter how many times he stroked the pretty kitty he didn’t think it right to own!
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
2:54 pm
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/12/just-how-republican-is-the-military/
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
2:58 pm
Prominent Republicans and the Armed Services
Representative Patrick McHenry, R-NC – did not serve. Saw fit to endanger American troops’ lives after a visit to Iraq by violating operational security and helping militias target their mortar attacks on the Green Zone.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-KY – did not serve (1)
Senate Assistant Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-MI – avoided the draft, did not serve.
Senate Republican Conference Chairman Jon Kyl, R-AZ – did not serve.
Senate Republican Conference Vice Chair John Cornyn, R-TX – did not serve.
National Republican Senatorial Committee Chair John Ensign, R-NV – did not serve.
House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-OH – did not serve.
House Minority Whip Roy Blunt, R-MO – did not serve.
House Republican Conerence Chair Adam Putnam, R-FL – did not serve.
House Republican Policy Committee Thaddeus McCotter, R-MI – did not serve.
National Republican Congressional Committee Chair Tom Cole, R-OK – did not serve.
Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani – did not serve.
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney – did not serve in the military but did serve the Mormon Church on a 30-month mission to France.
Former Senator Fred Thompson – did not serve.
Senator John McCain – McCain’s naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Why did the Bush campaign smear him so in 2000? At least Senators Cleland (D-GA), Kerry (D-MA), Kerrey (D-NE), Robb (D-VA) and Hagel (R-NE) defended him.
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Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert – avoided the draft, did not serve.
Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey – avoided the draft, did not serve.
Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay – avoided the draft, did not serve (1). “So many minority youths had volunteered … that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself.”
Former House Majority Whip Roy Blunt – did not serve
Former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist – did not serve. (An impressive medical resume, but not such a friend to cats in Boston.)
Rick Santorum, R-PA, formerly third ranking Republican in the Senate – did not serve. (1)
George Felix Allen, former Republican Senator from Virginia – a supporter of Nixon and the Vietnam war, did not serve. (1)
Former Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld – served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor. (1) Served as President Reagan’s Special Envoy to the Middle East and met with Saddam Hussein twice in 1983 and 1984.
GW Bush – decided that a six-year Nat’l Guard commitment really means four years. Still says that he’s “been to war.” Huh?
VP Cheney – several deferments (1, 2), the last by marriage (in his own words, “had other priorities than military service”) (1)
Former Att’y Gen. John Ashcroft – did not serve (1, 2); received seven deferment to teach business ed at SW Missouri State
Jeb Bush, Florida Governor – did not serve. (1)
Karl Rove – avoided the draft, did not serve (1), too busy being a Republican.
Former Speaker Newt Gingrich – avoided the draft, did not serve (1, 2)
Former President Ronald Reagan – due to poor eyesight, served in a noncombat role making movies for the Army in southern California during WWII. He later seems to have confused his role as an actor playing a tail gunner with the real thing.
“B-1″ Bob Dornan – avoided Korean War combat duty by enrolling in college acting classes (Orange County Weekly article). Enlisted only after the fighting was over in Korea.
Phil Gramm – avoided the draft, did not serve, four (?) student deferments
Congressman Ron Paul – active duty flight surgeon from 1963-65; Air National Guard from 1965-68. (link)
Former Senator Bob Dole – an honorable man. http://www.bobdole.org/bio/wwII.php
Chuck Hagel – two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam. http://www.senate.gov/~hagel/Information/bio.htm
Duke Cunningham – nominated for the Medal of Honor, received the Navy Cross, two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other decorations Recently entered plea bargain on felony charges of bribery, etc. etc.
Senator Jeff Sessions U.S. Army Reserves, 1973-1986
Colin Powell. What are we to make of Powell? On the one hand, a long career as a military manager. On the other hand, accused of covering up the My Lai massacre. Back on that first hand, one of the seemingly sane voices in this administration when it comes to Iraq (or at least he used to be). On the other hand, a clear hypocrite (”I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed… managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units…”)
Representative Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD), served in USMC in Vietnam; wounded in action.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
3:02 pm
Did you learn anything Fred?
Don't Forget
July 7th, 2012
3:03 pm
Images from the hubble ultra deep field. Almost all the “points of light” are actually galaxy’s”. Play around with it, it’s amazing.
http://hubblesite.org/gallery/tours/tour-hudf/
getalife
July 7th, 2012
3:10 pm
The pols are doing what the people elected them to do.
The con Americans always vote gop no matter what that party does.
They are a lost cause but this election is not about them.
This election is about the last time gop had power and Americans need reminders of the w administration.
Losing 9 million jobs vs steady job growth and saving our country from gop destruction.
If the people fail and elect gop to power again don’t expect a different result.
St Simons
July 7th, 2012
3:12 pm
i learned something – the Jam was Paul Weller?
yes, he’s too english for ‘merka, says mrsstsimons (raised in swaffham)
but i don’t care. i don’t care if he can even play a guitar or not.
Paul Weller did the most important thing in music for the last 40yrs.
He found Amy Winehouse.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
3:13 pm
Jam, Jefferson was just a man, not a god.
Hallelujah.
And one ultra fine American to boot.
And Tom, I honestly don’t give a tinker’s damn if you love the Christian god, the Muslim god, the Shinto god or all of them equally. And hate all of the others. Seriously. That is between you and them.
But the days of people shoving their religion in the rest of our faces are gone forever. NO MORE shaming society into believing in Jesus as some sort of savior or conning little old ladies into giving the church their last dollar.
And again, I say hallelujah!
As I linked earlier…
“Religion is unpatriotic at its core, because it places its law above the law of the land. Indeed, religion abhors civil law, which is why we see attacks against science and privacy coming from our religious politicians. Religion asserts itself on the population at large by infiltrating the political system with true believers who will then use the political system to do the church’s bidding.”
Teresa MacBain, Public Relations Director of American Atheists and former pastor, stated, “As a pastor I often reminded my congregants that ‘God’s law was higher than man’s law.’ What that really meant was that the people should take orders from the church, above our civil government. Atheism, being the absence of any religious beliefs, implies that human law alone is supreme over humanity. Here in America, the highest law is in Washington DC, not some fictional heaven. That’s patriotic.”
Silverman concluded, “I ask all citizens to remember that the separation of church and state benefits everyone, except the preachers and the politicians in their pockets. Religious equality only comes from Government neutrality. Celebrate your Independence.”
American Atheists defends civil rights of Atheists, freethinkers and other nonbelievers and works for the total separation of church-mosque-temple and state; and addresses issues of First Amendment public policy.
As a woman who proudly served on active duty in the United States Army, I can attest to the fact that there are many Atheists in foxholes. I was one of them.
Celebrate your freedom and independence!
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
3:14 pm
And Oscar, thanks for filling in the blanks at 2:58…
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
3:19 pm
Doing yardwork in this heat. Your standing as a reasonable sensible person just went down two notches.
I was going to post “like Oscar said,” then I realized that only a few days ago I’d announced that I was off to run in what was ~98° heat, so I guess I’ve got to stay neutral on this.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
3:24 pm
Paul Weller did the most important thing in music for the last 40yrs.
He found Amy Winehouse.
He was her mentor? I did not know that.
By the way, Paul released another solo album a few months ago (he’s been pretty busy all these years). Just got it from Amazon, a five-buck download, if you’re interested. What I’ve sampled is a lot glitzier than the Jam stuff, but I’m looking forward to getting to know it in the next few days.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
3:24 pm
Oscar,
You left out Eisenhower and John McCain.
Furthermore there are 535 members of Congress and 100 members of the Senate today. Of the Ds and Rs in Congress today how many of them served or didn’t serve in the military? I bet the numbers are pretty close across the board on both and I wouldn’t be surprised if more of the Rs served than Ds. But if there just happened to be more Ds that served than Rs I can guarantee you one thing- it wouldn’t be an “overwhelming” difference.
Thirdly your piece on Rs who didn’t serve ridicules several of the Rs including a cheap shot at Reagan saying he thought later on that he might have served as a tail gunner as opposed to acting as one. It therefore has no credibility and of course when it makes the blanket statement “avoided the draft” it does not know the individual details as to why someone did or did not serve. It just takes a shot at them.
Last in all this nonsense that you guys are constantly posting about “chickenhawks” fighting wars you seem to be lacking a little consistency given the chickenhawk in there now bombing the hell out of Pakistan. That inconsistency alone makes your howls of “chickenhawks” on here completely lacking in credibility. And another example of chickenhawking would be Bill Clinton ordering our pilots to bomb at unusually high heights in Bosnia- sacrificing accuracy and incurring far more civilian casualties so that he could avoid the political criticism of possible casualties to U.S. airmen. So whenever you guys are ready we can have a discussion of your own chickenhawk presidents in the name of consistency.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
3:28 pm
oh, and…
yes, he’s too english for ‘merka, says mrsstsimons (raised in swaffham)
Take that, Carlos! I’m not mad after all!
By the way, I had to google.map it, but I see your Mrs. grew up 136 miles NNE from Paul’s own Woking, UK.
And what I mean by “too English” is just the way so many of those amazing lyrics were pronounced, back in the day. In “The place I love,” he sings a line that goes “only animals around me.”
Only I hear it as something like “ownwee animows aroun mee…” Like he’s chewing gum while he’s singing, which he probably wasn’t.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
3:31 pm
“The party makeup of congressional veterans has usually reflected the overall control of Congress, but has trended Republican. Of the 92 House veterans today, 63 are Republican. In the Senate, the 24 veterans are split evenly across the aisle.”- USA today nov. 11,2011
Jamvet and Oscar,
Sorry guys but I just deal in facts. And the cold hard facts are that there are more far more republican veterans in Congress today. As a matter of fact the number of veterans serving in the House is, to use Jamvets own world “overwhelming” in favor of the Rs with nearly 2/3rd of the House veterans being Republicans veterans.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2011-11-10/congress-members-military-service/51159918/1
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Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
3:33 pm
Redneck Convert: if you check in, here’s a song I know was written just for you. Now, I know josef, don’t like you none. But he just don’t really know you is all.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
3:34 pm
Crickets chirping from the left…..
getalife
July 7th, 2012
3:35 pm
doomy,
Lets see your list con.
We are not bombing the hell out of Pakistan liar.
The drone attacks are fewer.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
3:35 pm
Oh, and mrsstsimons might’ve been thinking of some of the subject matter. A tune like “man in the corner shop,” yeah, I guess there’s some carry-over for an American listening c. 1980. But probably not. Because everyone’s tied together by the Church of England in that song’s bridge, and Paul’s Ray-Daviesesque mix of sympathy and sarcasm, I don’t think most Yanks really can suss it out. Or they couldn’t, anyway.
“For here they are all one. For God created all men equal.”
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
The only three combat veterans of any note in the GOP over the past many years were all loathed by the chickenhawks/neocon faction.
Bob Dole, John McCain and Chuck Hagel.
And the Bushbots and the depraved PNAC gang damn near swiftboated the last two…
They tend ot gravitate toward the scumbags like Alan West…
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
TD, for the record, I’m staying out of the “my side kicks the Hun’s butt harder than your side” argument. Indulge me.
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
3:40 pm
BTW, sweating is good for you. Just have to keep up with the potassium is all.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
3:41 pm
After billionaires united, congress can’t be trusted with our military.
A billionaire could get upset with China, donate a billion and we have war with China.
TaxPayer
July 7th, 2012
3:45 pm
How are Republicans doing with their campaign rhetoric from 2010. You remember the GOP talk. Vote Republican because of the lack of jobs and because of your hatred of the constitutional healthcare plan that the Democrats and Obama passed. Anyway, how many jobs have Republicans created with their war against women so far. And how is that supreme court battle against ObamaCare going. Got those appeals filed yet with a higher authority. Poor Republicans. They just can’t do anything right even with all that dirty money from that gambler, Adelson, or the Koch crooks.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
3:51 pm
Tax,
The gop have zero accountability from their voters and corporate media.
I heard their speaker cry where are the jobs the other day and just laughed.
American extremists politics is crazy right now.
You don't say
July 7th, 2012
3:52 pm
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57468106-503544/boehner-i-cant-make-you-love-mitt-romney/
The nose holding is now official. What a grand endorsement………..
Bumper stickers for sale 1st Wednesday in November
“We will keep trying, maybe we will do better next time. Romney 2016″
You don't say
July 7th, 2012
3:55 pm
“Since we can’t beat them. We run again. Romney 2016″
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
3:58 pm
ok, indulge me one more Jam linkee, promise, just one more and thassit.
A charming video, a great power-pop tune, one of the best singles you’ve never heard. Trust me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdl8hE07sYE&feature=related
Why the world is your oyster but your future’s a clam
It’s got you in its grip before you’re born
It’s done with the use of a dice and a board
They let you think you’re king but you’re really a pawn
You’re fearless and brave, you can’t be stopped when you’re young…
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
3:59 pm
The only three combat veterans “of any note” in the GOP over the past many years were all loathed by the chickenhawks/neocon faction.
Bob Dole, John McCain and Chuck Hagel.
Jamvet,
So who decides the criteria combat veterans “of any note”? Seems kinda subjective, arbitrary, and capricious to me. And it seems like you’re using this subjective criteria to ignore the roles of many lesser Republican Congressman who did serve in combat including several in the freshman class who I think were Iraq vets.
And as I said if you had any interest in fairness or consistency then why did you or Oscar leave out McCain, Eisenhower, and George Bush 1 who was shot down twice over the Pacific in WW 2 and was the youngest naval aviator in history at 19. And to think that some chickenhawk Dem had the unmitigated gall to call the man a wimp. That makes me sick. Not sure but I think it was Ann Richards who said that.
And last for the sake of consistency shouldn’t we have a conversation about Democrat chickenhawks like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama who upped the ante in Afgh and is bombing Pakistan with numerous civilian casualties- just like Clinton bombed Bosnia with numerous civilian casualties? Do you guys really want to get into a conversation about your chickenhawk presidents bombings resulting in civilian casualties?
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
4:00 pm
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
3:24 pm
___________
I was just posting the facts. Look them up yourself.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-25053.html
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
4:03 pm
Just google “Democrats in the Army” There are plently or references to facts.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
4:05 pm
ok, if we must go all political here…
Time to tip my cap. That’s one heckuva “get” for the Goopers…
Brad Pitt’s mum.
St Simons
July 7th, 2012
4:08 pm
yes, that’s what she was saying – he had a very english and european
sense in his writing & melody, the kind which probably wouldn’t carry
well over here. i don’t necessarily agree with her after watching your vid,
and this –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV4ytI0ZgHc
or this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOh3eNm_weI&feature=related
that’s badass
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
4:09 pm
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
3:40 pm
______
I went outside in the shade of oaks and dogwoods checking to see if any yard work needed doing here. Grass in the shade and the sun is not growing.
Came back inside. Maybe in early October I’ll check again.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
4:10 pm
woah… here’s something that I sure didn’t know, and kinda got buried in this otherwise kinda drab story on why Mitt Romney’s financial portfolio matters.
http://projects.newsobserver.com/node/25093
emphasis mine.
Back during the Republican primaries and debates, it took some needling by Newt Gingrich and others to get Romney to release his tax returns for just two years (far fewer than the 23 years he provided Sen. John McCain in 2008 when Romney was being considered as McCain’s running mate). Meanwhile, thanks to the reporting of Forbes and others, the specifics of Romney’s wealth are known in greater detail.
Wonder what the remnants of Team McCain have been/will be leaking, of those 23 years of tax returns?
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
4:12 pm
Doom, all fair points.
Ike, GHWB and McCain were all men that I respected a ton. And why I would never swiftboat ANY combat veteran like so many Republicans have done, including that nauseating piece of trash, Saxby Chambliss did to Max Cleland.
But I take heart knowing that another combat veteran, Tammy Duckworth, is going to replace that gutless POS and deadbeat dad in Illinois.
And hopefully that disgraced McCarthyist idiot in Florida is also going to be a one and doner.
And here is to Bob Kerrey, a true badass combat veteran, and his campaign in Nebraska.
GO BOB KERREY AND BIG RED! (LOL!)
http://www.votevets.org/candidates/
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
4:16 pm
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
TD, for the record, I’m staying out of the “my side kicks the Hun’s butt harder than your side” argument. Indulge me.
Stands for decibels,
Probably a wise choice. There’s no need to constantly disparage either side for their military veterans and constantly try and portray one side as chickenhawks when the cold hard data shows that that side has more veterans.
I don’t mind Jamvet or anyone one else making an exception for 1 or 2 Republicans like a Cheney or whoever that they despise for the simple fact that they didn’t serve in the military. I just ask for consistency in their reasoning and logic. That’s all.
larry
July 7th, 2012
4:16 pm
I dont really give a rats behind how many veterans each party has. But if the Repubs have more veterans then they should know better than to try to cut funding for food stamps in the House’s version of the Farm bill. Considering the fact that more veterans and veterans famlies are on food stamps, then they should be expanding , not cutting food stamps.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/18/food-stamp-cuts-military-bases-commissary_n_1607249.html
TaxPayer
July 7th, 2012
4:17 pm
Mitt earned the title, CEO (Chief Executive Offshorer), during his time at Bain.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
4:18 pm
JamVet,
I kinda wondered why you left out Bob Kerry who was not only a native Nebraskan and veteran but a Navy Seal of all things. You slippin jam?
TaxPayer
July 7th, 2012
4:19 pm
Republicans promise to continue to cut government waste including food stamps and unemployment benefits and use that money to fund their supporter’s next round of tax cuts. Isn’t that great news.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
4:20 pm
st.sim, thanks for those links. Some fine music they made together.
Had a look at Paul’s take on Amy’s passing. Interesting comparing Paul’s defense of Amy, when others were first knocking her, c. 2007…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1563578/Paul-Weller-Amy-Winehouse-great-role-model.html
and his subsequent resignation, after she died…
http://www.contactmusic.com/news/amy-winehouse-was-doomed-says-paul-weller_1298046
Weller tells Mojo magazine, “I was on the beach in Spain with my family. My girls were in the sea and Hannah came up. She said, ‘Amy’s dead.’ It was one of those things – both shocking and yet not unexpected… It’s such a f**king shame. But, you know, some people don’t want to be saved. I don’t think that there’s anything you can do about that at all.”
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
4:22 pm
I kinda wondered why you left out Bob Kerry who was not only a native Nebraskan and veteran but a Navy Seal of all things.
so tempting to say “naw, Bob’s one of yours,” but that’d be catty. And I’m neutral on this, anyway.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
4:23 pm
“I can’t suck it up with a straw” !
REMEMBER THIS NOVEMBER FOLKS !!! “RIGHT CHANGE !”
http://vimeo.com/12933322
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
4:24 pm
““Mmmbop, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba dop
Ba du
Yeah
Mmmbop, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, Ba du dop
Ba du bop, Ba du dop
Ba du
Yeah”
– Thomas Jefferson
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
4:24 pm
anyhoo, thinking about scrounging up some din-din for the fambly. Looks like I’m fryin’ some catfish and mitigating that with a decent salad.
And youse guys?
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
4:24 pm
Oscar,
For God’s sakes Oscar can’t you come up with something better than http://www.awolbush.com as a credible source? You usually have good input and some valid points. But come on. That’s nothing more than a slam Bush and Republicans website and gives just a one side, partisan view of things.
And it doesn’t change the fact that by a 2 to 1 margin Republicans have more veterans in the house today than Dems. I’m certain I could probably find a far right con site that extols all the R veterans that have ever served and ridicules all the various Ds that never served. What would be the point?
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
4:25 pm
Damn… Is it a requirement that anything and everything here HAS to become a pissing contest between left and right? Geez, sometimes y’all can make bad marriages seem like heaven.
larry
July 7th, 2012
4:26 pm
And i believe it was a Republican Senator, Jeff Sessions, who called the Veteran’s Adminstration, ” Welfare ” .
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
4:28 pm
dB
Working on orange chicken here. Just wish I had brown rice instead of white rice.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
4:28 pm
What would be the point?
_______________
None at all. That’s my point.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
4:29 pm
Working on orange chicken here.
is that what the kids are calling it nowadays?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
4:30 pm
And youse guys?
Probably do the fish thing too, or maybe grill a steak….
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
4:30 pm
…actually, Bros, I’m gonna butterfly a whole chicken and do it on the grill tomorrow, myself. Tuck some butter/minced garlic under the skin, salt/pepper the outside, let ‘er rip. Easy peasy.
(and I’ll probably make some stock from the back/giblets, unless I don’t.)
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
4:31 pm
stands for decibels,
Take it easy on Bob Kerrey. He is a cornhusker and veteran. You don’t want JamVet on your ass bout a fellow husker/veteran!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
4:31 pm
SoCo/Bro hatin’ on the whites, says so right there in his post.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
4:32 pm
Is it a requirement that anything and everything here HAS to become a pissing contest between left and right?
For what it’s worth, Bud Wiser and I actually had a civil exchange, earlier.
“That would be a start!”
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
4:33 pm
Just wish I had brown rice instead of white rice.
Racist. (Huge LOL!)
I’m gonna make some shrimp and cheese stuffed chilies, wrapped in corn husks on the grill.
(Guess who’s taken to watching the cooking shows on TV?!)
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
4:33 pm
Take it easy on Bob Kerrey. He is a cornhusker and veteran.
yep. And sometimes, ‘e’s a wankah.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
4:34 pm
shrimp and cheese stuffed chilies, wrapped in corn husks on the grill.
yum. sounds like a winning combo. Might put that in the queue for next week.
pogo
July 7th, 2012
4:34 pm
The AJC proclaims that “1 in 5 in Georgia on Foodstamps”. Makes you feel real good when you see a hispanic woman with manicured nails, manicured toenails and wearing gold all over buy her groceries with a SNAPS card and then take them out to a 2010 Chevrolet Surburban where her children await her with the engine running (so that they can stay cool while their mother spends the taxpayers money). This country is toast. Obama is looking more and more like he doesn’t even want to win. Why should he? Within the next two or three years all of this is going to come crashing down and whomever is in office will be blamed.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
4:34 pm
Is it a requirement that anything and everything here HAS to become a pissing contest between left and right?- Bro
Yes. Its codified in the blog rules under Section 5, Subsection C, sentence 3 of paragraph 4.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
4:35 pm
pogo,
whole foods comment coming in 3,2,1….
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
4:36 pm
All right, there’s a rebellion afoot at Stately sfd Manor, they want dinner a bit earlier. So I gotta bail.
Have an excellent evening, if I’m not back to monitor this monkey house.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
4:37 pm
that guy namejacking “pogo” @ 4.34 is a f—in’ hoot, by the way!
/drive-by
larry
July 7th, 2012
4:38 pm
Ahhhhhhhhhh, dont ya love stereotypes !!
G Mare
July 7th, 2012
4:39 pm
“WHAT’S FOR DINNER, GRAMPA?”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
4:39 pm
Makes you feel real good when you see a hispanic woman with manicured nails, manicured toenails and wearing gold all over buy her groceries with a SNAPS card and then take them out to a 2010 Chevrolet Surburban where her children await her with the engine running (so that they can stay cool while their mother spends the taxpayers money).
AND WEARING A PROM DRESS.
Didn’t you get the memo?
Geez….
Brosephus™ - Hatin' on the white rice!!!
July 7th, 2012
4:40 pm
is that what the kids are calling it nowadays?
getalife
July 7th, 2012
4:42 pm
I remember when the gop leaders would call out the kooks.
I guess mccain was the last gop to do it.
Brosephus™ - Hatin' on the white rice!!!
July 7th, 2012
4:44 pm
Doom
I gotta sit down and actually read the rules one of these days!!!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
4:44 pm
stands for decibles:
“War does not determine who is right – only who is left”
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
4:45 pm
Don’t know bout you guys but I’ve been catching a little bit of the Andy Griffith show marathon going on tv while I escape the midday heat.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
4:46 pm
JamVet
“(Guess who’s taken to
watching the cooking shows
on TV?!)”
…..
Giada de Laurentis and Nigella Lawson are two
foods on my menu.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
4:47 pm
Makes you feel real good when you see thousands of Republican families in Georgia that worked hard and played by the rules their entire lives only to see their futures destroyed by the insane greed of a relatively small number of men who were allowed to get away with it – SCOTT FREE – while their elected Republican “leaders” looked the other way and pretended nothing was wrong.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
4:48 pm
“I gotta sit down and actually read the rules one of these days!!!”
Don’t bother Bro. I make em up as I go along and just like a liberal’s version of the truth they are subject to change. Sorry but the partisan shot was just too good to pass up.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
4:50 pm
stands, use a red onion and especially Mexican oregano. That stuff rocks!
http://www.rickbayless.com/recipes/
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
4:52 pm
Not to be racist but my standard rule of thumb is to avoid eating most anything white. White flour means its just sugary and high glycemic- white rice same thing, white bread is the sorry processed bread, sugar is white and is the main culprit behind our diabetes problem so its good to avoid anything that has a lot of sugar in it. Just be anti-whitey in your food choices as a general rule and you’ll be ok.
Brosephus™ - Hatin' on the white rice!!!
July 7th, 2012
4:53 pm
Doom
No appologies necessary here.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
4:54 pm
LOL frog.
Technically, I have watched Giada more than a few times. But I’ll be damned if I could tell you the first thing about what she was making!
Doomy, hang tough with us leftie loons!
As you probably heard, that damn buddy of mine, Bruno, stormed out recently.
For B…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drCKvCL93hw&feature=related
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
4:54 pm
Thulsa Doom
Most healthy diet:
If it tastes good spit it out.
St Simons
July 7th, 2012
4:54 pm
…woman with manicured nails, manicured toenails….
now the cons got vietnamese envy, too? geez…
getalife
July 7th, 2012
4:59 pm
pogo,
Stop giving your extremist party a free pass.
They cut nothing so vote out the tea party.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
4:59 pm
I don’t use dairy products much. Just a little milk on my cereal. And only about six ounces of beef a week.
Main health food is one of two pieces of chocolate a day. And fruit juice.
Tom Middleton
July 7th, 2012
4:59 pm
Sounds like you’re against the same kind of religion I am, Jam – the mindless do-it-because-I-said-so kind. I was raised Southern Baptist, but after civil rights and them turning away other children of God from worshiping in our sanctuary because of skin color, I left. You want to talk about hypocrisy, that was it at its worst.
So I don’t believe in the shove-it-in your-face kind either. But if you and other atheists can talk about your godless religion of self, I can talk about my religion now and won’t ever stop. We are not going to allow one set of bad religious practices to be replaced by even worse ones from the other side, so you might as well get used to it.
The challenge here to both sides is to make logical sense of what we say. And while I’m certain that you’re living what you believe, whatever it is, it remains for those who believe in the one infinite God of all religions to live what they believe as well, and may the better set of ideas win. In other words, it ain’t over till it’s over, no matter who tries to declare it over well before its time.
You have the easier task, of course, because you don’t believe much of substance. But when the religious today realize they’re being manipulated by traditions so watered down that they no longer resemble the real thing and change, it’ll be all over but the shouting.
And just between you and me, as long as the religions remain watered-down, there will be those like your atheist ex-preacher around to take advantage of them, speaking of those with no character worth talking about at all.
And as long as you and yours are demanding your rights, too, I can only say you’ve already got them, and will continue having them, unless Republicans, not the Democrats, take them away!
P.S. So Jam, why is it you’re sounding exactly like Bruno today? Inquiring mind wants to know. ROFL!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
5:00 pm
Giada and Nigella?
Meh.
Don’t recall seein’ Rachel Allen on PBS in the ATL, but she’s on up here in N.C.
Yowza!
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
5:00 pm
barking frog,
Unfortunately I’ve found that to be true. Foreign friends have told me though that a problem with American cooking is that we don’t use enough spices/seasoners, etc. and that spices and seasoners make the food taste better and satiate you more quickly and better and so that you eat less. Maybe that’s just BS or maybe there is some truth to it I dunno. But I just read the other day that peppers help satiate you better so I’ve added peppers back into the diet. Matter of fact I chopped up a hot pepper in my breakfast eggs and dang if it didn’t make it a lot tastier.
JamVet,
thanks for the cooking website. I’m a gonna have to check that one out.
Fred *trade;
July 7th, 2012
5:05 pm
Oscar: Your 2:58 is a bunch of sht. I could name an equal number of Democrats and slime them as well. It proves nothing. Don’t you remember the Democratic Mantra when President Clinton was running? Military service is irrelevant?
Jamvet: Nice list, thanks. Some of them I disagree with most notably John Kerry and his fake record. Didn’t realize Bob Kerrey had the MOH (you don’t “win” one of those), impressive. Hope he is successful in his bid to regain his seat.
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:06 pm
And we’re walking………
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
5:07 pm
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
5:00 pm
_________
Spices are used in the tropics and semi-tropics to keep the food from spoiling and make it easier to eat when it does.
Most of us are from Europe. They are so far north they never developed the use of spices. That’s why we don’t use them as much. England is famous for its bland cooking.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
5:07 pm
JamVet
I like rick bayless but Daisy
Martinez and Marcella
Valladollid are a pleasure
to watch.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
5:08 pm
I was raised Southern Baptist, but after civil rights and them turning away other children of God from worshiping in our sanctuary because of skin color, I left.
Same here, but I saw them saving their worst hatred for fellow members.
Show me a SB church with a pulpit and/or building committee, and I’ll show you a church that’s about to split.
I saw families that had been long time friends not speak to one another for decades due to politicking on these very issues.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
5:08 pm
Kamchak
Rachel Allen is now on my
menu.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
5:09 pm
Fred *trade;
July 7th, 2012
5:05 pm
_____
All right. I call. If you can do it let’s see you do it. Otherwise, let’s see an apology.
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:09 pm
Doomy: Here’s a recipe site from our own USinUK………..
http://redskitchendiaries.wordpress.com/
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:11 pm
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
5:09 pm
Fred *trade;
July 7th, 2012
5:05 pm
_____
All right. I call. If you can do it let’s see you do it. Otherwise, let’s see an apology.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nope. I don’t have time for the hate. You mindless fanatics (right and left) can have that field all to yourself. Just don’t pee down my back and call it rain.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
5:11 pm
…because you don’t believe much of substance.
What an utterly pompous, arrogant and unfounded accusation. Because I don’t believe in your particular mythology?
To wit…
…you and other atheists…
First where did you come up with that bit of non-wisdom? Some bodily orifice? I have written many times that I do not discount the possibility of “god’. I am a non-theist, not an atheist. A subtle distinction to be sure, but critically important to an enlightened mind.
After having read and studied countless theories, religious tracts, philosophies, etc for nearly half a century, the only thing that I am fairly certain of is that you religionists – particularly of the fanatical Christian and Muslim variety – and your perverted penchant for speaking for god are completely full of ____!
And to a large extent, con-men.
But keep up the good work, Tom. As proven by the fact that people in the civilized countries around the globe are leaving the church in record numbers.
Seeya in hell! (LOL!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d7-KZvSE5E
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:13 pm
However Oscar, if YOU choose to open your mind, you could start with Henry A. Wallace.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
5:14 pm
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:11 pm
________
OK. I acept your apology.
Tom Middleton
July 7th, 2012
5:14 pm
Kam
Mine didn’t split, Kam. It moved over the mountain from where we lived and became a mega-church. Most of the members followed, but a few left over the size of the church, not the politics. Go figure…
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
5:15 pm
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:13 pm
_____
Too late to start listing names. You have already surrended.
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:17 pm
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
5:15 pm
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:13 pm
_____
Too late to start listing names. You have already surrended.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Really? I liken it to pig wrestling. In order to wrestle a pig one has to get down in the pig sht. And the pig likes to be there.
Claim whatever “victory” it takes to make you feel like a man. As long as you are happy the truth is irrelevant.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
5:17 pm
So fred learned nothing.
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:19 pm
getalife
July 7th, 2012
5:17 pm
So fred learned nothing.
++++++++++++++++
Excuse me?
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
5:20 pm
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:13 pm
___________
Exactly my point.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
5:22 pm
Tom
I witnessed one church split over money in the building fund and two split over the choice of new pastors.
Nasty, and not choosing sides is not an option either.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
5:28 pm
JamVet
If you want to understand
cooking and not just follow
directions Alton Brown
from Atlanta is the man.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
5:30 pm
Kammie & Tom Middleton:
Did you leave your country because of its many problems ……. racial and otherwise ?
Headline: “Southern Baptists set to elect first black president”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/19/us-usa-religion-baptists-idUSBRE85I0RQ20120619
P.S.
Which type of church/denomination do you think the devil is most likely to try to “split”, etc.?
One that inspite of imperfection is preaching the Gospel and seeing souls changed for eternity.
One that is preaching a social Gospel while people die and go to hell relying on their “good works”.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
5:31 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
5:22 pm
_________
In North Georgia where I grew up churches used to split over predestination. Happened a lot. Story is one church was looking for a new pastor and he asked them whether or not they believed in predistination. He said he could preach it either way.
josef
July 7th, 2012
5:34 pm
I was out taking a walk earlier and at one of the new McMansions going up there was a clean up crew at work. There in the hot July sun was a fellow about 35 or so, issuing orders in Spanish to his crew. The crew were four fellers about 10-15 years old working their little tails off. I stopped to complement them on their diligence and when I looked over to the foreman, the paternal pride was unmistakable. We took to chatting and I asked him if they were all his. They were. I told him how proud he must be that they were working so hard. He laughed, and said, “well if they want to eat, they better.” When I started to ask them a couple of questions, they kept working while they answered, in English with perfect Southern “yes, sirs” and “no, sirs.” I was speaking to them in Spanish. The father told them, in Spanish, “you can speak Spanish with the gentleman.” So, what do they want to be when they grow up? Computers, a doctor, a teacher/soccer coach and one who wants to open a business “like my Daddy.” Do they have sisters? Two, one’s too little to be working yet and the other was helping her aunt who runs a janitorial service.
Illegals? I don’t know about their immigration status and didn’t ask, but no doubt they’d be running afoul of the child labor laws, but if what that proud papa was bringing of age ain’t what we want to call “American values,” I’ve never seen it.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
5:34 pm
Lets see your list fred or apologize.
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:36 pm
josef @ 5:34: Amen.
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:37 pm
getalife
July 7th, 2012
5:34 pm
Lets see your list fred or apologize.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Getalife: Smoke more pot or go pound sand. I have absolutely zero time or tolerance for your ignorance. Go harrass someone else that really gives a fat rats ass for your nonsense because I will not put up with it. if you want to be a mindless idiot, I will put you on the mindless idiot ignore list.
You choose.
wet wiccan
July 7th, 2012
5:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=nPRJy3bZ1mY&feature=endscreen
getalife
July 7th, 2012
5:40 pm
The preacher next door got donated paintings stolen off the wall in his house while he was preaching in church.
Police think he made the artist mad over church politics.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
5:40 pm
Oscar,
Yeah. I knew the reasons why behind the lack of spices in our cooking but what I don’t get is why in this age of commerce and access to spices that we haven’t so to say “spiced” things up a bit. Regardless though your bit about why they use spices so much more prevalently in the tropics is interesting- reminds me of my grandma’s bland Northern European cooking- not even pepper and salt. And it was after all an Indian friend who complained to me about the lack of spicing in American cooking.
josef
July 7th, 2012
5:41 pm
Spices in American cooking…oy! And what’s that I smell coming from the kitchen? Saturday jambalaya and that’s about as American as you can get…but, yeah, the warmer the climate the more highly spiced the food…
Predestination? Mama always said that when she met the first Calvinist who thought s/he was predestined to go to hell, she might give it a little more credence!
getalife
July 7th, 2012
5:41 pm
fred,
Where is your list?
Put up or shut up.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
5:42 pm
josef
July 7th, 2012
5:34 pm
_________
I think as long as people are working and obeying the law, leave them alone. If someone commits a crime and they are illegal, report them to immigration and let them deal with it, like the constitution says.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
5:43 pm
“I will put you on the mindless idiot ignore list.”
Fred,
You haven’t already done that? Wass the holdup?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
5:43 pm
Oscar:
I hear you but “predestination” is really one debate that’s a waste of time. It’s like trying to get in God’s mind. Can’t be done.
I used to explain it this way.
When my kids would come home from school they would be starved and would want a snack.
Now, if I set a plate of cold spinach or two warm doughnuts in front of them …………. it was their “free will” to choose ………….. but I could bet my life ahead of time on which one it would be.
Now …………. multiple that times a billion and your not even close to God’s knowledge.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
5:44 pm
Jambalaya? B O O M! That’s it! I was wondering what to cook for dinner tonight. Wanted something spicy and tasty and jambalaya fits the bill. Tanks josef.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
5:44 pm
frog
A better place to understand cooking is America’s Test Kitchen and Cook’s Country on PBS. They’ll take a recipe and do it 75-100 times til they get it right, proportions, procedure and cooking temps.
They also have taste tests, and equipment reviews.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Did you leave your country because of its many problems ……. racial and otherwise ?
False equivalence. Church does not equal country.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Story is one church was looking for a new pastor and he asked them whether or not they believed in predistination. He said he could preach it either way.
A fine christian man.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
5:45 pm
frog, I just checked out his website. Looks good.
Damn, at this rate, I’m never gonna reach that weight goal that I set for myself! (Might as well have a beer!)
Cool story, jonix.
As for predestination (a concept that I became familiar with a long time ago)…
Everybody’s going to heaven
Because already we’ve all been through hell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3RHmLFHanU
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
5:45 pm
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
5:40 pm
________
My mother learned to cook mostly from her materal grandmother who was from England. Loved that roast beef. Not a spice in our house to be found.
Married a girl from Louisana. I had a time eating at my mother-in-laws. it was all hot and full of pepper.
I told my wife she cook go all the mexician cooking she wanted as long as she left out the spice.
Tom Middleton
July 7th, 2012
5:46 pm
Jam
So what do you think about as you go through your days, Jam, Bruno? It must be because you’re becoming him in about as fast a transition as I’ve ever seen.
You used to be deeply respected on this blog, Jam, while your friend Bruno was more of the needy, unstable type always on the edge and in trouble.
I’m praying you’re OK, my friend, because if there’s anybody in this world that you want to try to become besides yourself, it ain’t Bruno. Sorry, but may God help you if you do!
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:46 pm
getalife
July 7th, 2012
5:41 pm
fred,
Where is your list?
Put up or shut up.
++++++++++++++++++
You have chosen ……… poorly.
It’s funny how much better this blog is and how much more quickly one can read it when one skips over the drivel of the mindless asshats.
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
5:50 pm
and so it begins
TaxPayer
July 7th, 2012
5:50 pm
That’s some hot stuff there.
Fred ™
July 7th, 2012
5:51 pm
Doomy: It took me so long because he was never a complete asshat to me before. I’ve seen him do that crap to others so it’s little wonder he would get to me. I kind of feel sorry for him. I think the drugs he takes really affect what little brains he ever had to begin with.
And jambalaya is ALWAYS the right choice lol. We’re having take out from Biba’s. Honey is shopping up that way so she’s bringing a little bit of heaven home with her. Best tiramasu I’ve ever had…….
http://www.bibasitalian.com/
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
5:51 pm
Kamchak
I like both but you end up
with their recipe. Alton
explains the science and
mechanics of cooking and
why things brown or rise etc.
under different conditions.
He will give a recipe but
encourages you to experiment.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
5:52 pm
No drama fred..
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
5:54 pm
I have put off coming here due to work and play equally. I have no real excuse for my tardiness other than that. So this is where the cool kids hang out. I could get used to this. Hi ya’ll!
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
5:55 pm
@Fred,
Mindless asshats are a pain aren’t they?
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
5:56 pm
“You used to be deeply respected on this blog, Jam, while your friend Bruno was more of the needy, unstable type always on the edge and in trouble.”
“I’m praying you’re OK, my friend, because if there’s anybody in this world that you want to try to become besides yourself, it ain’t Bruno”
Nothing like the jackassery of taking cheapshots at someone no longer on the blog to defend himself.
FYI Tom Bruno had a level of respect on here that you will never attain. Even several of the liberals on here JamVet included held him in good regard. The same cannot be said of you.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
5:59 pm
Doomy melt-down.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
5:59 pm
So what do you think about as you go through your days…
I am easily amused, Tom (LOL!) and have MANY interests. I find it fascinating just to be alive and to be interested in all of the things that I am is just gravy.
You used to be deeply respected on this blog, Jam…
Tom, that is very interesting but frankly, kinda weird.
Do I seem like the kind of man, who comes here, or lives his life for that matter, to be respected?
I seek the respect of a limited number of certain people. Everyone else can kiss my ass!
Seriously, unless they are paying my bills, I have very little emotional energy on what they think of me. Or their armchair psychoanalysis!
My life speaks for itself, and frankly I don’t need a buncha friends to make me feel like a man. (Hat tip Todd Rundgren)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b4le-j9ROU
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
6:00 pm
Fred,
I put him on ignore long ago but throw him a bone every once in a blue moon. His nonsense got to be like a broken record. I still like him but I just don’t waste time engaging his foolishness is all. Some minds are just completely closed.
BTW thanks for the recipes. The dessert ones were to rich for me but the pasta one I like and I think I’ll check out the one you just posted.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:02 pm
Getalife 1:53 – no tax reform. No real infrastructure investment or reform.
Boom. Case closed.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
6:03 pm
Doomy melt-down.- kamchak
Hardly. More like I’m just calling out a cheapshot artist for what he is.
josef
July 7th, 2012
6:06 pm
What is it they say? The French have a hundred sauces and one religion. The English have a hundred religions and one sauce.
I’m always amused when people start to talk about American cooking. Just what IS American food to begin with? Shoot, say whatever else you will about us, when it comes to eats, we’ve made “ours” food from around the world. I loves my Southern country cooking and a quick one here.
I was preparing a presentation once on the influence of the American Indian on the development of the the unique Southern civilization. I was delving into such arcane aspects as the appearance of the concept of two “souls,” and the like when I was called in to supper. It was your typical Southern country cooking meal, butterbeans, fried corn, sliced tomatoes, cornbread, fried crookneck squash, and some venison from the freezer from the last season’s deer season. I was halfway through before I realized that everything on the plate was Indian in origin. The ice tea and the coffee and pound cake, no.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:06 pm
“I seek the respect of a limited number of certain people. Everyone else can kiss my ass!”
I share some of that sentiment. Not quite on those terms, but close.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
6:07 pm
Too much drama.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
6:09 pm
doomy never got anything right like jm.
Liars.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
6:10 pm
josef,
I’m reading a book about successful migrations and cultures. Your comments about that Hispanic family fall right in line with the various cultures I’m reading about that had become immensely successful in their adopted cultures- the Armenians, Jews in America and NY city in particular, the Chinese in southeast Asia, Koreans and Vietnamese in America, blacks from the West Indies in America, the IBOs in Africa, the Lebanese in Africa and other places, etc.
The recurring theme seems to be the same. Peoples that come to a new country and with a cultural and value system that emphasizes hard work and long hours, the family pitching in, thriftiness and frugality- families living together or well below their means in order to save, education, etc.
Something tells me that in generation 2 and 3 a lot of these Hispanics whose fathers were laborers are going to be in the professions such as doctors, teachers, lawyers, etc.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
6:11 pm
“Did you leave your country because of its many problems ……. racial and otherwise ?
False equivalence. Church does not equal country.”
Correct ………… Church “true Chrisitanity” is much more important because it’s eternal …….. yet so many choose unwisely to leave.
Satan has been after the church from day one ……….. starting with Peter & Paul.
But …………………. “the gates of hell will not prevail against it !”
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
6:11 pm
josef
most country folk never
realize a pinto bean is
mexican food.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
6:12 pm
I have written, very, very little about Bruno’s departure from this forum.
I will say a few things.
Many months ago, he taught me something invaluable.
He reached out to me on a Friday night and we were able to share something MUCH more important that politics. We shared the sacrament of music.
And though we still disagree bitterly on many matters ideological, that, in and of itself, never really mattered all that much to us. We got together for a couple of rock concerts and thoroughly enjoyed each others company.
And because of him, I learned how to “bury the hatchet” and to forgive those perceived wrongs (ironic, huh?) and forget. Ask Doomy and others.
And I count him as a real friend.
RIP Moogy Klingman…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Iwmcs1hps
josef
July 7th, 2012
6:13 pm
I’ll say this about Bruno, as tight-assed as he could be from time to time, and ever how much he and I would go to it like cats and dogs over fine points and details, he always treated me with more respect than I deserve. Whatever else, he didn’t have a mean and hateful streak. He would have probably lasted longer here if he did.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
6:13 pm
Headline: “The U.S. Border Patrol says an agent fired shots after being pelted by rocks thrown along the Rio Grande.”
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/border-patrol-agent-fires-shots-rock-attack-16732647
Good. Rocks are deadly weapons.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:14 pm
Getalife
You wouldn’t know right even if you had a long left leg.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
6:14 pm
When you have no credibility, nobody reads your long posts.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
6:15 pm
Church “true Chrisitanity” is much more important…
No.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
6:16 pm
“Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson was arrested early Saturday morning in Houston.
KHOU 11 News in Houston first reported that Peterson was arrested at 2:30 a.m. for resisting arrest.”
Ah ……………. you’re not arrested for “resisting arrest”. That’s a charge that comes later.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
6:16 pm
jm,
I don’t lie like you .
Nobody reads your lies after all the lies.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:16 pm
Josef
“Whatever else, he didn’t have a mean and hateful streak. He would have probably lasted longer here if he did.”
I hate blogs.
That’s why I’m still here.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
6:16 pm
Yes.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:17 pm
I’m in the “live free or die” state.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
6:18 pm
And lets stop talking about Jam’s friend.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:19 pm
Getalife
Please prove Obama is “rebuilding America”
josef
July 7th, 2012
6:20 pm
THULSA
In each of the cases you mentioned, there are four factors at work: family above and beyond all else, a strong work ethic and a respect for all honest labor, communal responsibility and identification, and education, education, education.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
6:21 pm
osef
July 7th, 2012
6:06 pm
_____________
Reading that menu for supper you had made me hungry and homesick at the same time. Just the food I grew up on, except the vension. We had roast beef or fried chicken mostly.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:21 pm
Jam has a friend????!!!!!
Color me shocked.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
6:22 pm
Four more months and many more melt downs are coming.
Blogging has never been more hilarious.
Love it.
josef
July 7th, 2012
6:23 pm
JM
Must be why I’m still here…
So, you’re a New England Yankee…?
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
6:24 pm
getalife
i wish i could meltdown
my waist is becoming
hilarious.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:24 pm
Getalife
No proof. Stop lying.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
6:24 pm
“Please prove Obama is “rebuilding America”
Like your party would let him do that.
Don’t be silly.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
6:25 pm
getalife
Jm said he climbed
Mt. Washington. He
is an athlete.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
6:25 pm
And lets stop talking about Jam’s friend.
Jay has already made that request but I will say this, I think it is a valid political point that the incident is indicative of the rising desperation that we see every day from the right.
Jay even did a thread on over-the-top reactions to the SC ruling.
Ever since the 2008 election, the rhetoric has been getting more dramatic.
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
6:25 pm
Josef,
I can’t remember the last time I had some good ole jambalaya. The wife has started making some southern food for me, which is welcome living up here amongst the mid-western giants of Chicago. Her greens can’t be beat. For the daughter of a farmer from the mid-west she sure has some southern soul.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:26 pm
Josef
God no. Or if so, only temporarily.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
6:26 pm
Enter your comments here
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
6:26 pm
Don’t enter your comments here.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
6:29 pm
inter your comments here.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
6:30 pm
Look, virtually every single one of us has written horrible, untrue, unreasonable and malicious things about each other. In many cases, completely unprovoked.
But in virtually every case, we’ve also had our moments of kindness and compassion. (There are a couple of exceptions, Frank! LOL!)
I cannot and will not deal with anyone’s redemption but my own.
And try again to be a better person tomorrow…
And gawd help me, I do truly enjoy most of you knuckleheads!
When this triple LP first came out, I bought it and went nuts playing it over and over…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XFfUt7HQWM&feature=related
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:31 pm
Frog
Not an “athlete”
Just athletic
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
6:32 pm
Look, virtually every single one of us has written horrible, untrue, unreasonable and malicious things about each other.
No, I haven’t. And you’re a poopy-head.
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
6:33 pm
one of my faves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt0ipUCfdlU
josef
July 7th, 2012
6:33 pm
OSCAR
We don’t have venison that often. Hunting is a big thing with Unmentionable and his side. My side does deer camp and all that but it’s more from a social thing, “networking” so to speak. I went through my rite of passage there, but I admit, I’m a bit too squeamish! I’m the same way about fishing.
As I tell folks, if I had to, I could live off the land, but in the meantime, give me the butcher shop and the vegetable stand. Hell, I lie! That’s Unmentionable. Left to me, it would be plastic wrapped from Publix!
pogo
July 7th, 2012
6:34 pm
California just saddled its taxpayers with billions of new dollars for the bullet train to nowhere. And why did they do it? To get federal dollars to help them just get by a little while longer.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
6:35 pm
JamVet:
Are you turning soft in your old age ?
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
6:35 pm
Jm
I was referring to being
able to breathe at altitude
when you got off the train
or out of the car.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
6:37 pm
“And because of him, I learned how to “bury the hatchet” and to forgive those perceived wrongs (ironic, huh?) and forget. Ask Doomy and others.”
JamVet,
Yep. And if I recall it was Bruno who got you and me to bury the hatchet. And if you and I buried the hatchet then just about anyone can.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
6:40 pm
Corporal, interesting that you view it as soft.
What pray tell is hard then? (OMG, did I just write that?!)
pogo, nowhere?
I though it will connect LA with SF?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwVAvnYKLJE
josef
July 7th, 2012
6:41 pm
Son of Confederate Gentlemen…
Ask any good cook what the secret is, and they’ll say “love…” Granny always said if it didn’t have the touch of love, no recipe would help. Graddaddy used to say he knew when he was in trouble with Miz Georgia at the first bite!
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:43 pm
Frog – 4 hours. On foot. With aid of hands.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
6:43 pm
“i wish i could meltdown
my waist is becoming
hilarious.”
Barking frog,
You aint the only one whose waist line has been expanding.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
6:45 pm
Jm
you should have rode the
train or drove up.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
6:47 pm
Thulsa Doom
they say it’s a disease, but
i cannot locate the cure.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:50 pm
Frog
The train looks cool and fun
Next time with kids one day
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
6:51 pm
Doomy, true dat.
Life can be tough and it is not difficult to become small minded and arrogant. (I know.)
Guys like us (and most of us here, I suspect) came from very humble beginnings. And we’ve done OK for ourselves. If there is some reckoning, I am not afraid.
From one of my favorite records…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWpND8GhBuU
getalife
July 7th, 2012
6:55 pm
I do like frog and jm’s writing style.
Short and to the point .
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
6:55 pm
getalife, Oscar and whomever else wants to piss on the electric fence…
It doesn’t matter who served or who didn’t. These little skirmishes y’all get so deeply involved with serve no purpose other than the bump or nudge you get from a pickpocket right before he snatches your wallet. While y’all go off on a tangent about something like you’re doing, those who are in control are steadily passing laws that aid themselves while giving you the shaft.
But, keep on pissing on the electric fence. When somebody flips the switch, you’ll all be in for a big surprise.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:56 pm
Getalife
You’re the master of it
josef
July 7th, 2012
6:57 pm
Spreading waist lines..as .one of my Ethiopian coworkers said one day, “I’ve still got it. It’s just not in the same places it used to be.” But, hey, I had it when I was young and it mattered. As Unmentionable says, “ah, precious memories!”
josef
July 7th, 2012
6:58 pm
SCOUT
It’s all the fault of the Gays in the military, you know…it’s the downfall of Western Civilization…
Mr_B
July 7th, 2012
6:58 pm
TD: Back in the evil 60s, there was a paperback out called “The Impoverished Student’s Cookbook.”
Can’t remember the author, and my copy was lent out/stolen/lost years ago. Anyway the author pointed out back then that meat was expensive, but most spices were relatively cheap. His advice, buy inexpensive cuts and dress it up like mad. Usually works fine.
Chicken Marsala tonight. Stupid easy.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
6:59 pm
pogo
July 7th, 2012
6:34 pm
__________
California for the last fifty years is a perfect study of what not to do.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
6:59 pm
Bro
The abortion referendum is beyond stupid, speaking of stupid laws
I’m libertarian light
I wish there were some good “libertarian light” candidates
josef
July 7th, 2012
6:59 pm
BROSEPHUS
Piss on the electric fence, eh? You ARE a country boy…now, tell me, did you ever do it?
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
7:00 pm
getalife
my english teachers did
not like wordiness. i took
heed.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
7:00 pm
jm,
Your are athletic?
Did you play sports?
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
7:01 pm
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
6:55 pm
_
What in the world are you talking about. I don’t think you have a clue.
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
7:02 pm
Don’t get me started on bullet trains. There is a certain CTRH who has the best opinion on high speed rail I have heard yet.
http://www.michaelmedved.com
Not that I subscribe to the letter to his opinion, but he does have a point about cost versus ROI. The only bullet trains in the US should be of the Coors type.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
7:02 pm
frog,
Bumper sticker politics.
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
7:02 pm
I’m libertarian light
I wish there were some good “libertarian light” candidates
I don’t believe in “light”. Either you are or you are not. Otherwise, you share a few similarities with a particular group. I wouldn’t call myself Liberal light or Conservative light. I just tend to agree with some aspects of both ideologies. Libertarians have an idea or two, but that’s not an ideology I could see myself embracing.
btw… My 6:55 is from earlier. Somehow my pc got hung up while I was at the dinner table.
————————–
Fred
If you’re still around, did you hear about the #22 failing his pee pee test???
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
7:02 pm
“Thulsa Doom
they say it’s a disease, but
i cannot locate the cure.”
I know what the cure is- better diet and more exercise. I just despise the former.
As for the cause of the disease of the expanding waistline I’ve located it. It lies between my chin and my nose and there aint a whole lot I can or want to do bout that.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
7:03 pm
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
6:47 pm
_______
I didn’t have any problem at all with my waist line until in my sixties. Then it just started expanding. The disease has to be turning sixty. The cure will be turning eighty. Never saw a fat person in a nursing home.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
7:04 pm
I will ride the bullet train.
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
7:04 pm
Oscar
That 6:55 got hung up from earlier when you and your cohorts were pissing about who served and who didn’t. It doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme as they’re all worth more than all of us combined. I’m also willing to bet that their material wealth didn’t come from serving the country in the military either.
josef
July 7th, 2012
7:04 pm
SON OF CONFEDERATE GENTLEMEN
Stones? My favorite of all theirs…Jagger showed that a pretty boy could have a social conscious, too…oh, yeah, and try to ignore the quote for Diocletian of the Potomac at the start of the video…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nIYmuCF3RU
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
7:05 pm
josef
Nah. Saw the pain on one of my friends face when he did it. That was more than enough to let me know not to do it.
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
7:05 pm
Yeah those damn gays in the military. I’ll tell you if it wasn’t for a few of those I wouldn’t be alive today. Saved my straight white ass a few times in the Hindu Kush.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
7:06 pm
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
7:04 pm
_____
You missed the whole point of what was going on. It’s over now.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
7:07 pm
Piss on the electric fence, eh?
No, but I do remember some encounters therewith. Not me personally, but my brother Ben, if memory serves. It wasn’t all that difficult to bump into it, if not careful. I do recall one rather ugly meeting with some barbed wire (the “Devils Rope”)….
My first time in an aircraft was in a small Cessna. I might have been ten. What a memory! We flew to LaCrosse to see the…
http://www.rushcounty.org/BarbedWireMuseum/
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
7:08 pm
Ever put your tounge on a frozen pipe?
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
7:08 pm
TD: Back in the evil 60s, there was a paperback out called “The Impoverished Student’s Cookbook.”
Mr B.,
I came from a humble background so I had to work my way through college and grocery money often interfered with my all important beer money of which there wasn’t much left for old milwaukee anyway after the bills were paid. I remember the first couple times I bought ramen noodles and ate them and thought that was the greatest thing in the world that I could feed myself for 15 cents or whatever it was. Now I look back and realize just how sodium filled and just plain crappy that food is and tastes. But it sure tasted good back then.
Mr_B
July 7th, 2012
7:08 pm
The conversation around Bruno sounds like a wake. Is there a line on whether or not he’s permanently absent? I (for one) hope not.
Mr_B
July 7th, 2012
7:10 pm
Doom: The afore-mentioned cookbook had a recipe for some of the most undrinkable beer you ever had the misfortune to encounter. But it wasn’t so bad that we didn’t drink it.
josef
July 7th, 2012
7:10 pm
SON OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS
Medved? Boy, you just tryin to stir up sh*t, ain’t cha?
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
7:10 pm
Josef
What a good edit of that song and corresponding pics. I almost spilled my beer with the BHO pic. Something about a Muslim holding a beer that makes me smile. Almost as much as watching a Republican cast a vote in congress!
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
7:11 pm
Mr_B
July 7th, 2012
7:08 pm
_______
The line on him ever coming back is 3 to 1.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
7:12 pm
Getalife 7 tennis (organized)
Hangliding, mountain climbing, sailing (disorganized)
Bro – I don’t believe in absolutist positions, or allegiance to a party
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
7:14 pm
I (for one) hope not.
Me, three.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbr4qNnffi8
josef
July 7th, 2012
7:14 pm
SOCG…
Saved your straight white ass in the Hindu Kush, you say…what did they do with it when they got it home in one piece…
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
7:14 pm
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
7:08 pm
_____
I have not idea what a ramen noodle is and never heard of it till a few years ago. Sounds like something to avoid. Sounds like a Muslim dish.
When I was little, potted meat and vienna sausage were considered delicacies. Eaten with soda (saltine) crackers.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
7:15 pm
jm,
Football, basketball, track, wrestling, soccer and baseball.
Organized.
Mr_B
July 7th, 2012
7:17 pm
Shavua Tov: josef.
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
7:19 pm
Josef,
They gave it a “football sideline” slap and a good ole hell yeah. Shortly thereafter we drowned our sorrows in liquid amber and celebrated those who didn’t return.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
7:20 pm
Getalife
Call it what you will. Oh, and surfing. Love the surfing (not the web)
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
7:20 pm
Josef,
That’s my MO. When you’re told all your life your eyes are brown cause you’re full of sh*t you can’t help but spit some out and share it round the ole camp fire.
Paulo977
July 7th, 2012
7:20 pm
Love in Action????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-HlQJzHJTE
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
7:22 pm
Oscar,
I can’t remember who it was but I read somewhere that I think it was the French, English or Russian soldiers that we were helping to feed and or supply during WW2 and they referred to SPAM as the great meaty meat that saved their army. They couldn’t get enough a that shyte.
If you don’t know what Ramen noodles are then don’t bother finding out. Trust me on that point. I’m sure others will vouch for the accuracy of that statement.
Last when I was little McDonalds was something like a once a month or once every few months treat. Nowadays it seems like folks eat out every day or every night and feed their kids mcdonalds or kfc or pizza half the week. Times sure have changed.
josef
July 7th, 2012
7:24 pm
SOCG
Glad you liked that video…sorta impressed my ole ancestrally uppity soul…
And ZAMVET you might want to check it out…lot’s of your trailer trash, rednecks, rubes, et al… in there
MR B
Shalom! How’s the time off on the taxpayers’ dime going?
And Bruno is an alright fellow…a bit on the sensitive side…I imagine he might come back as soon as we can get him down off that cross…it seems his presence is missed by more than its not…
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
7:26 pm
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
7:22 pm
_________
I know about your last comment about what people eat now. It just kills me and my wife to see what our grandchildren are eating. Pizza, hot dogs, McDonalds, etc. I never had a pizza until I was 18 and in college.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
7:27 pm
I’m out for the evening. Going to try making some jambalaya and gotta get going on it. That or do a search of Athens restaurants to find a cajun eatery. Ya’ll have fun and count me in as a 4th or 5th person that hopes Bruno makes his way back onto the blog.
Mr_B
July 7th, 2012
7:27 pm
Obscure one from ‘68. I loved this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMHNyNg6Ybw
Mr_B
July 7th, 2012
7:30 pm
josef: Too damn much time off, and it’s down to the taxpayer’s 2.73 cents now.
Almost got the wood-burning oven finished. I’ll put the first fire in it tomorrow.
Thulsa Doom
July 7th, 2012
7:30 pm
” I never had a pizza until I was 18 and in college.”
Damn. I never thought about it but I don’t think my folks ever bought us any pizza take out until out teens. Otherwise it was always a home cooked meal either for reasons of cost or nutrition or really both. Now I’m really out.
josef
July 7th, 2012
7:31 pm
Seems Ole Scout and Del are being strangely silent on their usual f*gs in the military, chest beating and testosterone poisoned screeds…reckon it might be because there a real soldier present…p’rolly…
Anyway SOCG…thank you for your service on behalf of the denizens here on the Imam’s cyber front porch…are you knew here abouts, the tag is a new one for me and I’m always here…
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
7:31 pm
Oscar
And I’m guessing that you’re not cogent enough to read where I said that post had gotten hung up in my pc too. Geez, some of y’all need to breathe oxygen.
josef
July 7th, 2012
7:35 pm
MR B
Shavua tov, u’mevorach! Thanks for that Electric Prunes one…I had never heard their version…quite intriguing…
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
7:35 pm
Shavua tov, indeed.
paulo, what gentle (gentile? LOL!) souls you and Mr_B are!
jonix, tell me about it. In Nebraska, I lived in nothing but trailers! At least the second one, was a double wide! The first, a 14 X 60 burned down in the middle of the night. Mom broke her back escaping out of the window and we lost Butch, the terrier mongrel. Tough times.
The good news. Life goes on and we get stronger…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ore6K3ESTLc
josef
July 7th, 2012
7:39 pm
BROSEPHUS
@ 7:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuq7RYQ8Wa0
Mr_B
July 7th, 2012
7:40 pm
July 6th was the 42 anniversary of the 2nd Atlanta International Pop Festival. Anybody else there and can still remember it?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
7:43 pm
josef @ 6:58
Did you read last week where Army D.I.’s are no longer supposed to “yell” at the recruits ?
You know, there’s “no crying in baseball” and “no yelling in combat”.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
7:44 pm
“Drivers, start you dadgum engines” cracked me up..
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 7th, 2012
7:45 pm
“Geez, some of y’all need to breathe oxygen.”
Tbs in particular. Unplugging is good.
Speaking of which, I’m out.
josef
July 7th, 2012
7:46 pm
ZamVet
Sh*t! Why’dya have to go and tell me THAT! I guess I’m gonna hafta lay off you on that one…spoil sport! And thanks for the cut…so I guess they dropped the charges?
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
7:46 pm
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
7:31 pm
-
Personal insult. Penalty flag.
Oscar
July 7th, 2012
7:48 pm
getalife
July 7th, 2012
7:44 pm
_________
Not me. I thought it was a sacrilege. Don’t fool with tradition.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
7:49 pm
just had dinner. 1 Breast
1 wing crispy southern
fried chicken, mashed
potatoes with butter,
english peas, romaine
salad with cucumbers,
green pepper, tomatoes
and italian dressing. ice
water to drink. do not
understand expanding
waist. Oscar may be right
60 disease.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
7:49 pm
Seems Ole Scout and Del are being strangely silent on their usual f*gs in the military, chest beating and testosterone poisoned screeds…
I guess it’s because they are “hard” and we are “soft”. (LOL again at me.)
reckon it might be because there a real soldier present…p’rolly…
You know what? I doubt it? And in the name of brutal honesty, real soldier sounds a whole lot like true hero to me.
Words.
Not at all a PJ fan, but I did like that Just Breathe…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byCCmBwRjGw
josef
July 7th, 2012
7:50 pm
SCOUT
I guess I’m speaking to you again. BTW did you read Son of Confederate Gentlmen’s earlier posts tonight on gays in the military? Reckon I oughta tell him about that pink flamingo tattoo you got?
Mr B
I didn’t get to go…I sure wanted to…
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
7:50 pm
josef
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
7:54 pm
Personal insult. Penalty flag.
It’s only an insult if you think it applies to you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrojrDCI02k
Brosephus™
July 7th, 2012
7:55 pm
Not at all a PJ fan
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
7:55 pm
Army D.I.’s are no longer supposed to “yell” at the recruits ?
What???????????????????
Man, am I glad I’m “old”!!!
In the 1972 USAF they would throw you into lockers and basically kick your ass if you gave them any lip…
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
7:55 pm
my wife would cook a lot
better before my boys left
home so i asked why she
changed. she said well
they’re my blood kin. you’re
just some a**hole i met on
vacation.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
7:59 pm
JamVet
in 1964 they would cut off
any button not buttoned.
such a pain to sew back on.
josef
July 7th, 2012
8:01 pm
ZaVet
” And in the name of brutal honesty, real soldier sounds a whole lot like true hero to me.”
Even if he is a son of Confederate Gentlemen…
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
8:06 pm
Sorry, Bro, you know I love ya, but you know who I am and the truth (for me) be told there is only one Breathe. And you played it!
I was always too smart (read too much of a p*ssy!) to give the higher ups much lip, but I still got in plenty of trouble. Because I did not have the best attitude, shall we say? One time in Biloxi, I remember getting thrown around like a rag doll between several NCO’s in a circle.
All I really ever got was a lot of extra duty. I spent more than a few hours buffing hallway floors.
But ultimately I played them a LOT more than they played me. And had one righteous time.
Dumbass lifers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqXLY-6n4zA&feature=related
josef
July 7th, 2012
8:07 pm
FROG
@ 7:55
Oooooh! Truth hurts don’t it…
I was saying to Unmentionable the other day I wanted one of the dishes he makes and said “you used to make that all the time for me.” He said, “yeah, and you used to be good looking, too..any more questions?”
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
8:08 pm
josef
relationship undercurrents..
josef
July 7th, 2012
8:10 pm
ZamVet
“I remember getting thrown around like a rag doll between several NCO’s in a circle.”
Yeah, me, too…at the Fire and Rain, right?
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
8:16 pm
and you used to be good looking, too
Well at least you weren’t born ugly!
Youth and beauty. Hollywood and Madison Avenue. We are a funny lot, ain’t we?
Think about it, it took Pink Floyd seven albums to get DSotM right.
There’s a lesson there somewhere…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbKAh3zJmH8
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
8:19 pm
There is one great strength training exercise that works to reduce weight, for virtually any homo sapien:
Table Push-Aways.
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
8:20 pm
You know what they say about scouts right? First in, last out. Always seemed to have a certain tone to me.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
8:23 pm
They like fat frogs down here.
josef
July 7th, 2012
8:24 pm
ZamVet
I know DSofM is supposed to be their ne plus ultra, and I do like it a lot and is near the top of my list of all time great albums, but I’m still partial to Momentary Lapse of Reason…and the best from that and one of my top ten cuts of all time..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNiSKSeJPC4
josef
July 7th, 2012
8:26 pm
SOCG
@ 8:20
Ooooh…
Scout? Any comment?
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
8:26 pm
getalife
they like anything down
there. just add pepper.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
8:28 pm
Enter your comments here
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
8:29 pm
oops — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdD6L4cKKU8&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLA4184925A3766BD8
getalife
July 7th, 2012
8:29 pm
frog,
Too much good food.
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
8:29 pm
for me, it’s Piper At The Gates of Dawn, and it’s downhill from there.
(jk, mostly… although it is a bit weird that hardly anyone mentions that lp in these discussions.)
josef
July 7th, 2012
8:30 pm
getalife
Fat frogs? I’m tellin’ ya, Mec, ya better leave them Boudreaux gals alone!
ZamVet
Nyanh, wasn’t born that way…took a life of good livin to get where I am today…
getalife
July 7th, 2012
8:33 pm
josef,
They jump on anything
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
8:36 pm
My dear josef, a killer cut.
And do not think that I did not love, to some great degree, Meddle and Ummagumma and The Wall, Wish You Were Here and The Division Bell, among others, but Dark Side of the Moon was the musical switch that flipped me. I was 18. Some how. Some way. I’m not, to this day, sure how, but I do know that it did. I remember the very moment.
And this was the song…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYiahoYfPGk
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
8:40 pm
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57468106-503544/boehner-i-cant-make-you-love-mitt-romney/
I appreciate the honesty from the Speaker, but I don’t imagine Mitt does.
josef
July 7th, 2012
8:42 pm
getalife…you best be careful or you’ll find yourself…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFD2XPqVCy8
ain’t no time for lengthy speeches…
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
8:42 pm
getalife
last trucking trip i stopped
at Slidell 76 and walked
down the street to a small
restaurant. ordered shrimp
cooked in olive oil. i expected fried. they brought
a round pan filled with
garlic flavored olive oil
with shrimp standing on
end tail up around the
edge and a loaf of sliced
french bread. don’t
know if i ate correctly
but i ate a shrimp followed
by a chunk of bread dipped
in the oil. wiped the pan
clean. least spicy dish i
ever ate in louisiana. just
6 bucks.
josef
July 7th, 2012
8:44 pm
ZamVet
@ 8:36
It was drug related…
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
8:46 pm
…but suggested that at the end of the day, Republicans would be voting against President Obama rather than for Romney.
stands, not to be melodramatic, but that is tragic, is it not?
But this is apparently what our jaded selves have been reduced to.
The evil of the two lessers… ~Ralph Nader
Musically, they captured the themes of madness, violence, and death in that album. Though at the time, I was only marginally aware of that…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy8iUI_ayuo
stands for decibels
July 7th, 2012
8:49 pm
Sorry, Republican lady — and Republicans in general — but if a weepy romantic like Boehner isn’t even going to bother trying to convince you that Mitt might just be the man of your dreams, then it’s obviously time to admit that you settled and get on with it. Sure, you can make like Rupert Murdoch and get all publicly pouty, but what’s the point? Your fate is sealed, forever intertwined with that of a humor-challenged robot whose religion probably weirds you out. On the plus side, he is very rich, and he’s got a great head of hair.
nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/07/john-boehner-cannot-make-people-love-mitt-romney.html
josef
July 7th, 2012
8:52 pm
FROG
A lot of folks think that Louisiana Creole and Cajun are all one and the same or that Creole is just Black…each one has it’s own cuisine. Native black Creole tends toward the hot and spicey, but not as firey as Cajun. Caribbean Creole is not nearly so hot and much more subtle. White Creole is very European French and much more subtle, sometimes downright bland. But all agree on one thing…first you make a roux!
getalife
July 7th, 2012
8:53 pm
“The American people probably aren’t going to fall in love with Mitt Romney.” orange dude.
They don’t need no stinkin plan just get
Obama.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
8:54 pm
jonix, I think you are right! You do know how to cut through the BS, doncha ya!
I was just beginning the grand experiment. It was very short and very intense! I kinda feel sorry for those who never experienced psychedelics. It sure beat being the average gutter snipe and drunk! Man, I live decades in a few years!
What has happened to me recently…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-CbghTBYg0
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
8:57 pm
josef
seems to me cajun has
more indian influence
than creole but i usually
think in terms of red or
black pepper. maybe the
shrimp in olive oil was
white creole.
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
8:58 pm
Out of here for the night. I gotta get some vino and some spaghetti going and get to bed.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
9:02 pm
first you make a roux!
Damn straight!
I may not know much, at least I know (and have done) that much!
I’ve been around the world but I’ve only ever seen one…
http://gulfinfo.com/bayoulabatre/
Peace out, Son of…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrGuVa-4BVE&feature=related
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
9:07 pm
josef @ 7:50
The law is the law.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
9:09 pm
JamVet
I used to drive down to
bayou labatre and buy
coolers of whole shrimp
and bring them back on
ice and sell them on the
street corner. did well
until the grocers began
to sell in stores. no fresh
shrimp in chattanooga
until i brought them in.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
9:11 pm
JamVet:
They gave up bayonet training a few years back also.
You know what “A.R.M.Y.” stand for don’t you ?
Army: “http://www.midlandsconnect.com/news/story.aspx?id=772586″
Marine Corps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfOwmWnzuJI
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
9:12 pm
barking frog:
Are you from Chattanooga ??? !!!
josef
July 7th, 2012
9:13 pm
SCOUT
I see you waited until SCOG left before you chimed back in…chicken sh*t!
Mr_B
July 7th, 2012
9:14 pm
” But all agree on one thing…first you make a roux!”
Followed up by a blinkin’ wombat.
josef
July 7th, 2012
9:15 pm
ZamVet
Was there, saw it, did it and bought the t-shirt!
FROG
Bayou la Battre…yow-suh!
getalife
July 7th, 2012
9:16 pm
Make crawfish etouffee fill in Bama mini pie shells and bake at 350 for 10 minutes.
Crawfish pie me oh my oh!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
9:17 pm
Repetition is repetition.
And tautology is saying the same thing just using different words.
josef
July 7th, 2012
9:17 pm
SCOUT
Oops… make that Son of Confederate Gentlemen…
Obviously the G&T is working…
MR B
Mr_B
July 7th, 2012
9:17 pm
” I kinda feel sorry for those who never experienced psychedelics.’
I quit dope when I started to anticipate coming down.
But it did give me a much better appreciation of alcohol.
barking frog
July 7th, 2012
9:17 pm
0311
just outside in marion co
until the air force. then
North Ga. outside Dalton.
josef
July 7th, 2012
9:19 pm
getalife
I can make an etouffee to make you slap yo Mama down…and have taken your advice on the pie shells and using the left over for filling to make a crawfish pie…you are so right!
getalife
July 7th, 2012
9:21 pm
josef,
My favorite.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
9:21 pm
I used to drive down to
bayou labatre and buy
coolers of whole shrimp
and bring them back
Me too! But only for me and my wife’s personal consumption. You are obviously the entrepreneur that I never was! But man, that seafood was awesome, huh?!
We used to to go down to Mobile regularly and I’d always order the fried seafood platter at the local joints. Heaven!
Scout, you know I have ALWAYS defer to you jarheads! (Said with the most loving respect!)
You know what though, bro? “Drop and give me twenty” doesn’t scare me. Never did. I can still give you thirty! Truth!
Sweet song…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsDMxWgPQcg
Mr_B
July 7th, 2012
9:21 pm
Out for the evening. Shalom, all.
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
9:21 pm
The crimes against humanity, the dismantling of the US Constitution and the lawlessness both domestic and international that define 21st century amerika are the results of September 11, 2001.
Washington’s account of 9/11 is the wildest conspiracy theory known to mankind. The absurdity of Washington’s account is as follows: A few Saudi Arabians without any government’s backing or that of any intelligence service outwitted not only the CIA and the FBI but all 16 US intelligence agencies, even the Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency, together with the intelligence agencies of all of Washington’s NATO allies and Israel’s Mossad, which has infiltrated every radical Muslim group.
These humble Saudis of no known distinction or powers also simultaneously outwitted the National Security Council, NORAD, the Pentagon, Air Traffic Control, and caused Airport Security to fail four times in one hour on the same morning.
In other words, every part of America’s defenses failed at the same moment.
Think about that for a minute. If such a thing had actually happened, the President, Vice President, Congress, and media would have been demanding to know how such universal failure of every aspect of the national security state was possible. An investigation would have started immediately, not over a year later as a result of pressure from 9/11 families who could not be bought off with monetary payments. Such complete and total failure of every aspect of US security would mean that americans were not safe one single minute during the 40-year stand-off with the Soviet Union. At any moment the Soviets could have utterly destroyed the US and we would never have known what hit us.
In a real investigation, the 9/11 evidence would not have been illegally destroyed, and the investigation would have been conducted by experts, not by government agencies assigned a cover-up and by political hacks. The NIST report is abject nonsense. It explains nothing. It is a fabricated computer simulation of a non-event. The co-chairmen and legal counsel of the 9/11 Commission later wrote books in which they stated that information was withheld from the commission, the military lied to the commission, and the commission “was set up to fail.” Yet, these astounding admissions by the leaders of the 9/11 Commission had no impact on Congress, the presstitute media, or the public. All heads were in the sand. Please, whatever you do, don’t make us emotional weaklings face the facts.
Kerr-plunk! But wait! There’s more! Cover your eyes, put you fingers in your ears.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
9:24 pm
I can make an etouffee to make you slap yo Mama down…
My mama is over 200 miles away.
Does that recipe have as one of the ingredients, Extenze?
josef
July 7th, 2012
9:26 pm
K’chak
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
9:29 pm
More than one hundred firefighters, police, first responders, and building maintenance personnel report hearing and experiencing scores of explosions in the twin towers, including powerful explosions in the sub-basements prior to the collapse of the towers.
Distinguished scientists, authors of many peer-reviewed scientific papers, report finding unreacted nano-thermite in the dust from the towers, tested it for its explosive and high-heat producing ability, and reported the unequivocal results.
Seventeen hundred architects and engineers have testified in a petition to Congress that the three World Trade Center buildings were not brought down by fire and airplanes and have demanded a real scientific investigation of the cause of the buildings’ destruction.
Yet, we are left with the paradox that scientific opinion based on careful examination of the remaining evidence has been designated by the ignorant and unwashed as a “conspiracy theory,” while Washington’s absurd conspiracy theory stands as the truth of the event.
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth headed by high-rise architect Richard Gage has driven the final nail in the coffin of Washington’s concocted conspiracy theory with its new film: “9/11: Explosive Evidence — Experts Speak Out,” and they do speak out.
Scores of top level demolition experts and experts on the design, engineering, and construction of high rise steel structures provide the scientific, architectural, and engineering reasons that the three World Trade Center buildings came down only with the assistance of explosives that were placed and timed to remove the powerful structural support and permit the sudden collapse of the buildings. As the buildings were engineered and constructed according to known and tested principles that absolutely prevent rapid collapse, fire and structural damage that two of the three skyscrapers suffered from airliners could not possibly have caused the sudden disintegration of the three buildings.
Just another conspiracy theory.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
9:33 pm
Kam,
Just add this ingredient
http://www.slapyamama.com/.
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
9:38 pm
America’s descent into a gestapo police state could be arrested, perhaps, if Americans were not so ignorant of science or were capable of even realizing that what they see with their own eyes when they watch videos of the twin towers’ destruction is buildings blowing up, not buildings falling down from structural damage. Building 7’s destruction is the total and complete picture of controlled demolition.
At the end of the powerful film, psychologists explain why the majority of a population lacks the mental and emotional strength to confront highly disturbing facts. A government that so thoroughly spies on its population as Washington does obviously knows its population’s profile and sees nothing but weakness and fear that can be manipulated.
What fact is more disturbing than the likely fact that 9/11 was a false flag event designed to provide the neoconservatives with their “new Pearl Harbor” in order to launch Washington’s Wars of Hegemony in the Middle East, and from there to Iran and to the nuclear powers: Russia and China, which are being encircled, as Iran has been, with US military bases?
Washington’s “wars of liberation” are wars of world hegemony and wars of massive profits for the military/security complex. The combination of power and money that are the motives for Washington’s concocted wars are hidden motives, wrapped in the flag, patriotic sentiments, and fear of dark-skinned demonized Muslims.
It never ceases to amaze me just how completely gullible Americans really are.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
9:38 pm
getalife
Have you had the chance to eat at Coop’s Place on Decatur St in NO yet?
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
9:40 pm
Soothsayer,
Apparently you were the “catalys”t for Bruno leaving.
For both of you, I am sorry for that. I like botha you guys. And like Forrest Gump, that is all that I am going to say about that that.
get, I wish I was in Vega, partying.
Early metal/punk/grunge…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0×6chChxzV0
josef
July 7th, 2012
9:42 pm
getalife, ZamVet
That wasn’t born ugly and slap yo Mama? Whoo, you so ugly when you was born the doctor slapped yo Mama…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
9:45 pm
Early metal/punk/grunge?
I just called it kick ass rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrZSy8swyuY
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
9:53 pm
…often cacophonous blog
stands, you gotta dig that fine intro!
Kam, LOL! Really,i n some ways the most badass of all those three man bands!
Rundgren produced We’re an American Band but the truth be told, I was hooked before that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0×6chChxzV0
getalife
July 7th, 2012
10:00 pm
Kam,
I might have and the menu looks familiar.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
10:05 pm
getalife
Been to NO only twice (1996 and 2004), and Coop’s was the first place I ate, both times.
Went to Commodore’s for brunch and was sorely disappointed.
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
10:05 pm
“Apparently you were the “catalys”t for Bruno leaving.”
Jam-man, the entire day’s posts are still available for your review. Make your own decision.
In fact, here’s the entire day’s comments when he was banned. Make your own decision.
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July 7th, 2012
10:18 pm
josef at 9:13:
Haven’t even been following much this evening.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
10:20 pm
barking frog:
Missionary Ridge Elementary
Brainerd Jr. High
Rossville High (Class of ‘65) We Bulldogs whipped those Dalton Catamounts back then but good !
josef
July 7th, 2012
10:21 pm
D*mn! Bruno’s getting more attention in abstentia than he ever did when present. Maybe I oughta commit blog hari kari, too!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 7th, 2012
10:26 pm
Maybe I oughta commit blog hari kari, too!
Go ahead and do it, josef. I got your back—just not in the way Unmentionable’s got it.
josef
July 7th, 2012
10:26 pm
SCOUT
You should’ve. We had a real soldier on this p.m. with an interesting one on gays in the military…but, not for me with you for now. I think he’s new hereabouts, but hopefully he’ll come back and you and Del can take up the issue with him…but, I do note that you’ve not been led into the trashy trashing even when being prodded to of late and that’s progress. Glad to see it…it’s got me speaking to you again.
K’chak
Rule of thumb on most NOLA restaurants…if it’s prominent in the guidebooks, it’s for the tourists and generally not high on the list for those who know the city…can be a real disappointment…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
10:31 pm
josef
Emeril Lagasse was executive chef there, but I went long after he left and it wasn’t a order from a waiter/waitress kind of meal.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
10:31 pm
This place is a trip, Lotsa personalities, lotsa trips.
I grew up in Kansas, but I grew up in Alabama…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80y0ZfmhKQY (I was there…)
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
10:32 pm
Jam, josef, et al: as a general rule, as I have observed it here on Bookman’s blog, you have to really push it to get banned.
If there is one central characteristic that will get you banned it is this: the thought or belief that you are more important than, or can dictate to, the manager of the blog. It’s really that simple.
If you are the type of person with an outsized ego and cannot accept authority, then the likelihood is that, eventually, you are going to be banned.
If you can recognize that you are a participant, and not the ruler, here on this blog you will live long and prosper. If not, you’re gone.
And that’s all I have to say about that.
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
10:34 pm
Redneck: left a nice song for you @ 3:33. I know it’s to your liking.
josef
July 7th, 2012
10:41 pm
K’chak
It’s probably just me, but Emeril doesn’t really impress me that much either. He’s too flashy. I’m more a Paul Prudhomme fan…as for the “name” places, Court of Two Sisters has a certain nostalgic charm, but for my money, it’s Tujague’s…
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
10:56 pm
Soothsayer, I agree.
And as noted before, understand well that I am not invested in “sides” or “right and wrong”. I think I read (for the most part) what happened, and am at peace. That I don’t like it, is merely a consequence.
This is another of those songs, that forever connects me to a special place (North Platte) and a special friend (Mike) and time. And fishing…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSAJ0l4OBHM
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
11:02 pm
Jam: I would love to go to Kansas, Wyoming, Montana, the Dakotas. I would love to go somewhere without this oppressive humidity we have here.
From what I have seen on TV, I would love to live out there. I know you must miss it terribly.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
11:12 pm
I don’t do tiny fancy portions.
Entrees that look like appetizers does nothing for me.
G Mare
July 7th, 2012
11:13 pm
Humidity, I have found, is relative. My family & I from here gathered for my Mom’s 90th in Walnut Creek, CA. We were delighted with the dry air. My cousins from the Barstow area said, “Wow, it is so humid here!”
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
11:13 pm
Sooth, I’m a country boy. Born to be a rock and roller. And the song that really captures it for me, is one I heard driving back to Nebraska from Estes Park a few years back. (And hell,out there, all you can get is country stations!) And like Natalie, I’m enbarrassed..
Room to make the big mistakes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dom7VlltBUc
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 7th, 2012
11:19 pm
getalife
Next time you go to Coop’s, get the Coop’s Taste Plate.
No small portions there.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:22 pm
josef:
I don’t “trash” but I speak my mind and call ‘em lilke I see ‘em.
If that offends some people that’s the way it is.
I am offended by most of the people on here so what else is new.
Josef
July 7th, 2012
11:23 pm
getalife
Parsley is NOT a vegetable…
Josef
July 7th, 2012
11:24 pm
Scout
Not out to pick a squabble tonight…check eith me later.
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
11:25 pm
Jam: great song! Always been partial to Ms. Maines. I would love to visit Big Sky, but likely will not in this lifetime. Oh, well.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:29 pm
josef:
I will but you and I will always have to agree to disagree on certain issues.
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
11:31 pm
oh hell, after a few glasses of wine I’m back. here is a little diddy for you guys and gals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHaInp5boc4&ob=av3n
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:33 pm
Wanna get “freaked out” ? Read this !!!
“Pinching, purification and finding The Bridge to Total Freedom: Inside a very sinister induction at the Scientology HQ”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170232/Scientology-Pinching-purification-finding-The-Bridge-Total-Freedom-My-sinister-induction-Scientology-HQ–just-days-ago-July-4.html
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
11:35 pm
Sooth, in some ways the big sky is where you look for it.
I saw part of it tonight from my front porch…
Can I handle the seasons of my life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIh-amV-dVs
getalife
July 7th, 2012
11:37 pm
GMare,
I hung out at the pool in Vegas at 120 all day all summer with no problem but when I walk outside down here on the coast of Louisiana, I am drenched with sweat and have to jump in my pool ASAP.
Yes, it is very humid dowv here.
JamVet
July 7th, 2012
11:42 pm
Sons, anyone who plays Bob Marley is
goodgreat by me.I’ve been to San Diego twice. Once to see a rock show….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGIB7Aph_lE
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
11:43 pm
Scout, you’re a trip! Thanks for posting that. I didn’t really spend too much time on the article in question, but all the rest of that? I could spend hours reading that tripe.
I owe you one.
getalife
July 7th, 2012
11:44 pm
SOCG,
Blogging is addictive.
Josef
July 7th, 2012
11:46 pm
Scout
Wel, I am on iPad now and can’t type as fast here so I can’t really disagree in more than just a drive by…
getalife
July 7th, 2012
11:48 pm
The pictures on drudge of Mars and that dam in China are very cool.
Scientology was born in Hollywood so it is weird.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:49 pm
Sooth:
Sonar to bridge …………. sonar to bridge ………… range ……….. mark !
Which brings up the question ……….. should someone involved in that be allowed in our military?
Josef
July 7th, 2012
11:49 pm
SOCG
Second ZamVet on the Marley… Vino? Are you a connoisseur or a wino, or both?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 7th, 2012
11:50 pm
josef:
Don’t worry. We’ve had our say.
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
11:52 pm
Can we all be friends?
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
11:56 pm
Range 10,000. Bearing 310. Ready for launch?
Aye, aye, Ready!
And in 10 . . .9 . . . 8 . . . 7 . . . 6 . . . 5 . . . 4 . . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . . Launch!
getalife
July 7th, 2012
11:57 pm
This is their Joe Smith:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/hubbardcoroner/oldhubb.jpg
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 7th, 2012
11:59 pm
Josef,
No, not a connoisseur. But I have fallen in love with the Southern IL wine country offerings. The wife and I just polished off a bottle of Von Jakobs Traminette. I do love a good fermented fruit buzz! Local wine is great, cheap, and I love supporting the small businesses.
Soothsayer
July 7th, 2012
11:59 pm
Scout: I’m sorry, I don’t mean to make light of your post. Who in our military is involved in Scientology?
BTW, that hog in that article would be lucky if someone pinched here. Just sayin . . .
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 8th, 2012
12:01 am
getalife,
Don’t I know it. I can’t get enough.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
12:07 am
SoCG,
Drop in anytime.
willard does look like him:
http://nowscape.com/mormon/images/Joseph_Smith_photo_first_pic_mormon.jpg
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
12:07 am
One of the great books that I’ve ever read is Catch a Fire. A must read for those interested in Marley and Rastafari. (Everything is irie, mom…)
And for those not interested in fermentation, my condolences. (What a waste of a life!)
Sooth @ 11:52, beautiful…
Feel good music from my early days.
The answer was plain to see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXq81-cGJr4&feature=related
Josef
July 8th, 2012
12:08 am
SOCG
Just wondering. We’ve got some wine snobs hereabouts, some winos, and some both. Me? I’m a wino!
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 8th, 2012
12:12 am
Josef,
When I was in basic training my nickname was Wino, more a play off the last name than an earned nickname.
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 8th, 2012
12:16 am
JamVet,
Will give Catch a Fire a tumble. Sounds cool.
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
12:19 am
more a play off the last name than an earned nickname.
LOL! Hence, my nickname of Huge…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buMg7cDtlls
Josef
July 8th, 2012
12:24 am
SOCG
Earn the name? Need lessons? I give Masters classes usuallly on Friday nNight Music..
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 8th, 2012
12:25 am
Josef you are a trip good sir!
Josef
July 8th, 2012
12:27 am
Zam Vet
A rabbi who must praise himself has a congregation of one….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
12:29 am
Sooth:
Lord knows but I hope none are in our military. No way they should be able to have any type of security clearance.
P.S.
I’m watching “Das Boot” on the military channel ………………..
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 8th, 2012
12:33 am
Josef @ 12:27-
I heard that. ‘No ruler should put troops into the field merely to gratify his own spleen; no general should fight a battle simply out of pique.’ -Sun Tzu, and also, Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. Proverbs 16:18
getalife
July 8th, 2012
12:38 am
The wine tasting festival in Atlanta is a good place to try wines.
They smoke the ganja mon. Rastafari. for all.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
12:40 am
scout,
Do you keep your tv on the military channel or fox news?
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 8th, 2012
12:41 am
Good night all. I’ll have to check out that festival when I’m in town. Lord’amercy mon!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
12:41 am
TAPS !
Josef
July 8th, 2012
12:42 am
SOCG
Uh oh…you’ve started it now, quoting military men and the scriptures at the same time…
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
12:42 am
SonofConfederateGentlemen
July 8th, 2012
12:33 am
________
I believe LBJ and W are guilty. One in Viet Nam and the other in Iraq. Don’t think either was good for the US.
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
12:43 am
Josef
July 8th, 2012
12:42 am
________
I read Joshua. He seemed to be both in one bag.
Josef
July 8th, 2012
12:44 am
I’m out, too…going up to the mountains in the a.m. G’nightt….
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
12:45 am
311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
12:41 am
_
But you didn’ t answer the question.
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
12:52 am
Getalife, I was in Las Vegas in June ‘91. Hot, but dry. Used to live in Sacramento. One thing about hot & dry is that those places cooled off at night. We turned off the a/c & opened the windows. Here, Smyrna, I have to keep the a/c running 24/7.
And did someone mention wino? Turning Leaf Chardonnay is my soporific of choice.
Yeah, well, it is inexpensive & tasty.
Okay, it is time to sleep. Good Night All.
carlosgvv
July 8th, 2012
7:56 am
After reading these late night posts, I’m betting about now is hungover as hell time for many of you.
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
8:22 am
Carlos,
Mighty Righty
July 8th, 2012
9:05 am
I heard this morning on the news, that Obama will continue spending the same amount of money in Afghanistan as we are spnding now, even after our troops leave? Why? He and his party have been saying Bush wasted money on this war but Obama now wants to keep wasting money? Why?
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
9:07 am
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/06/huntsman-challenges-party-will-not-attend-gop-convention-2/
(CNN) – In an act of protest, Jon Huntsman will not attend the Republican national convention this August in Tampa.
The former Republican presidential hopeful, Utah governor and ambassador to China said in a statement that he won’t participate in the convention or others in the future until his fellow conservatives start tackling the bigger issues.
Huntsman said that despite being asked repeatedly about his attendance, this year’s convention will be the first he has not attended since serving as a delegate for Ronald Reagan in 1984.
“I will not be attending this year’s convention, nor any Republican convention in the future, until the party focuses on a bigger, bolder, more confident future for the United States – a future based on problem solving, inclusiveness, and a willingness to address the trust deficit, which is every bit as corrosive as our fiscal and economic deficits,” Huntsman said in a statement, reported first by the Salt Lake Tribune.
Man, I wish he would have been the one to get the GOP nomination. There would be no doubt as to who I would vote for then.
Also, while there has been much attention paid to who’s not attending the Democratic Convention, I wonder if those same people will pay attention to this one. Unlike most other non-attendees of either party, this one is out of protest of the party instead of trying to save one’s political ass during a re-election bid.
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
9:08 am
Their idiocy continues.
(CNN) – Business mogul Donald Trump will be recognized as the 2012 Statesman of the Year by the Sarasota, Florida, Republican Party the day before the Republican National Convention opens in Tampa next month.
Tickets for the August 26 dinner go as high as $1,000 per person, which include a private meet-and-greet with Trump, according to an invitation flyer for the event.
He has appeared this year at state-level Republican Party events, such as a fundraiser for the North Carolina GOP last month, where he stood by his so-called “birther” comments and said waging war with Iran may be “good politics” for the incumbent.
A monied moron…
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
9:18 am
Why, Righty?
You know why. It is all you could talk about during his 2008 campaign.
Because he was/is the biggest liberal in the history of the universe.
And Mitt Romney is severely conservative.
LOL…
Man, I wish he would have been the one to get the GOP nomination. There would be no doubt as to who I would vote for then.
You and me, Bro. Huntsman is a damn fine man who would have probably made a great president.
Instead they are going to nominate this total fraud and spineless sellout. And I can hardly wait to see who his Sarah Palin is…
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
9:39 am
He and his party have been saying Bush wasted money on this war but Obama now wants to keep wasting money?
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/07/obama_afghanist.html
Obama: Afghanistan, not Iraq, should be focus
Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor July 15, 2008 02:54 PM
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-03-28/politics/obama.afghanistan_1_ambassador-karl-eikenberry-afghan-president-hamid-karzai-afghanistan?_s=PM:POLITICS
Afghan war remains ‘absolutely essential,’ Obama says
March 28, 2010|By the CNN Wire Staff
Seems that the truth begs to differ with Obama saying Bush wasted money on this war. Especially since Obama, himself, has constantly said that Afghanistan was the war we should have been fighting instead of Iraq.
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JamVet
Maybe Huntsman can get another go at it by way of a moderate push from both parties. One can only hope.
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
9:41 am
Mighty Righty
July 8th, 2012
9:05 am
__________
The President can’t spend a dime on Afghanstan or anywhere else without the approval of Congress.
Mighty Righty
July 8th, 2012
9:46 am
Huntsman is a RINO. Neither his attendance nor membership in the party is needed or wanted. Hillary is warning Syria again for the unmpteenth time. The results are apparent. She has been warning Iran for years with the same results Sort of like Obama’s jobs program. All talk..
Mighty Righty
July 8th, 2012
9:48 am
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
9:41 am
Mighty Righty
July 8th, 2012
9:05 am
__________
The President can’t spend a dime on Afghanstan or anywhere else without the approval of Congress.
If we had a president that recognized his constitutional imposed limits I would agree. But with Obama, who knows?
barking frog
July 8th, 2012
9:49 am
Afghanistan grows poppies
for heroin.
Iraq has oceans of oil.
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
9:55 am
If we had a president that recognized his constitutional imposed limits I would agree. But with Obama, who knows?
If you realized that the Constitution is being followed, you wouldn’t post such garbage. Obama can’t spend what the House doesn’t allocate. That’s how the appropriations process works based upon how our government is set up by the Constitution.
And?
July 8th, 2012
9:57 am
Man, I wish he would have been the one to get the GOP nomination. There would be no doubt as to who I would vote for then.
Huntsman has endorsed Romney.
Huntsman, who garnered two delegates with his third place finish in New Hampshire, released his delegates to Mitt Romney when he endorsed the frontrunner after ending his presidential bid.
Mighty Righty
July 8th, 2012
9:58 am
From that “consrvative” rag, The New York Times”
WASHINGTON — President Obama will talk about troop numbers in Afghanistan when he makes a prime-time speech from the White House on Wednesday night. But behind his words will be an acute awareness of what $1.3 trillion in spending on two wars in the past decade has meant at home: a ballooning budget deficit and a soaring national debt at a time when the economy is still struggling to get back on its feet.
As Mr. Obama begins trying to untangle the country from its military and civilian promises in Afghanistan, his critics and allies alike are drawing a direct line between what is not being spent to bolster the sagging economy in America to what is being spent in Afghanistan — $120 billion this year alone.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
10:03 am
Mighty Righty’s rendition of which president (and staff) would torture us with his extremist interpretations of constitutional limits seems to be rather biased.
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
10:09 am
I think it’s time to cut our losses in Afghanstan. We can’t afford to keep spending money over there we don’t have to try to build a country that doesn’t want to be built. Let India and Pakistan fight it out for control and influence there.
Mighty Righty
July 8th, 2012
10:09 am
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
9:55 am
If you realized that the Constitution is being followed, you wouldn’t post such garbage. Obama can’t spend what the House doesn’t allocate. That’s how the appropriations process works based upon how our government is set up by the Constitution
Gee, I didn’t know that. Thanks. I don’t know if this is true or not but I heard that the Obama Administration has been operating without a budget since he was elected. A continuing resolution that automaticaly increases each year. I don’t know but I also heard that his budget has been voted down unanimously by his own party every year. So he pretty much operates without any congressional over sight at all
Thomas
July 8th, 2012
10:10 am
Huntsman, who garnered two delegates with his third place finish in New Hampshire, released his delegates to Mitt Romney when he endorsed the frontrunner after ending his presidential bid.
What does that really mean- “releasing delegates”
I wonder if they show up at a Taco Mac and over wings and a Guiness Mitt goes “ok, hand them over- don’t back down on me now”
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
10:17 am
Huntsman has endorsed Romney.
He would have been better off endorsing the Easter Bunny. You obviously don’t think he would endorse Obama, do you?
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But behind his words will be an acute awareness of what $1.3 trillion in spending on two wars in the past decade has meant at home: a ballooning budget deficit and a soaring national debt at a time when the economy is still struggling to get back on its feet.
Yet, I bet you hold him responsible for spending that entire amount….
And?
July 8th, 2012
10:21 am
Huntsman also wants to repeal Dodd-Frank and shut down Fannie & Freddie. He favors the flat tax.
Huntsman called for eliminating taxes on capital gains and reducing the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 25 percent, similar to pitches his rivals make while campaigning. His plan also drastically lowers personal income tax rates, while ending popular tax credits and deductions that affect the middle class, such as the mortgage interest deduction and child tax credit.
He called for repealing Obama’s health care overhaul, “dramatically” reining in the Environmental Protection Agency and reforming the Food and Drug Administration’s “ridiculous approval process.”
He is also a member of the 1% club.
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
10:21 am
Huntsman is a RINO.
Yep, total lockstep fealty is required from you “good” Republicans!
And he is much too principled and intelligent to pass the GOP’s demented Purity Tests.
As would everyone in that small number of Republicans who actually think for themselves and who are not card carrying members of the lunatic fringe…
What a disaster of political party, huh Righty?
Doggone/GA
July 8th, 2012
10:23 am
“And he is much too principled and intelligent to pass the GOP’s demented Purity Tests”
yeah, his ad showing “him” riding a dirt bike in the desert showed how “principled” he is.
And?
July 8th, 2012
10:26 am
Shortly after becoming governor in 2004, Jon began implementing his 10-point plan for jumpstarting Utah’s economy — including historic tax reform. He simplified the tax structure and cut taxes by more than $400 million — the largest tax cut in the state’s history.
He maintained his fiscal responsibility even in the midst of the national economic recession. Rather than raise taxes or use accounting gimmicks, Jon cut waste and made government more efficient. As a result, Utah held its AAA bond rating and earned national accolades for debt management. Under his leadership, Utah ranked number one in the nation in the job creation and was named the best-managed state by the Pew Center.
In 2008, Jon spearheaded and passed comprehensive, market-based health care reform. While other states relied on government control and individual mandates, Jon delivered reforms that give consumers freedom to choose and negotiate their own coverage in a competitive marketplace. He also signed landmark legislation to protect the sanctity of unborn life and defend the Second Amendment.
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
10:26 am
Mighty Righty
You don’t know diddly…
Appropriations bills are passed and signed each year to designate where and how much money is spent by the government. Not passing a budget bill has no bearing on appropriations bills. Congress could pass a budget bill and then do something completely different when it comes to the appropriations bills. I guess that point goes way over your head as well as those stuck on stupid about a budget bill vote.
As to voting on Obama’s budget, if Obama didn’t write it, how can it be his budget? If Ted Kennedy wrote a budget and called it Bush’s budget, do you think you would agree with that too? Therefore, when a Republican writes something and calls it “Obama’s Budget”, don’t be surprised if no Democratic members of Congress votes for such jackassery. I wouldn’t expect the GOP to vote any different if the roles were reversed.
As to Congressional oversight, what makes you think that Congress is supposed to oversee everything Obama does? Do you not understand how the Constitution set up our government?
http://www.netage.com/economics/gov/Gov-chart-top.html
Show me exactly where the Executive Branch falls into the organization of our government WITHIN the Legislative Branch. For Congress to have oversight of something, that something or someone has to fall under the Legislative Branch. The last time I checked, the president, currently Barack Obama, is the head of the Executive Branch. The EB is it’s own separate branch with it’s own responsibilities of oversight.
If, by Congressional oversight, you’re actually referring to the checks and balances built into our government, we’ve seen recent examples of how the checks and balances work. And, contrary to YOUR belief, the checks and balances are working as the Founding Fathers intended them to work.
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
10:33 am
No candidate is perfect. (Well, none since W, anyway!)
I would have liked to learned more about Huntsman. At least he is not the prototypical mental midget that has come to define this faux conservative movement. And he noted as much when he said:
“The minute the Republican party becomes the anti-science party, we have a huge problem,” he said. “When we take a position that isn’t willing to embrace evolution, when we take a position that basically runs counter to what 98 out of 100 climate scientists from what the National Academy of Scientists said on what is causing climate change, and man’s contribution to it, I think we find ourselves on the wrong side of science and in a losing position.”
Losing position, indeed, governor. And nobody in the world, of any consequence or standing, takes them seriously on it. NOBODY.
Doggone/GA
July 8th, 2012
10:38 am
“And nobody in the world, of any consequence or standing, takes them seriously on it. NOBODY”
The problem is…that those of no consequence or standing, who DO take them seriously, are the ones who VOTE for them.
Mighty Righty
July 8th, 2012
10:39 am
For Brosephus: Below copied from the Washington Times about “OBAMA’S BUDGET!
President Obama’s budget suffered a second embarrassing defeat Wednesday, when senators voted 99-0 to reject it.
Coupled with the House’s rejection in March, 414-0, that means Mr. Obama’s budget has failed to win a single vote in support this year.
Republicans forced the vote by offering the president’s plan on the Senate floor.
Democrats disputed that it was actually the president’s plan, arguing that the slim amendment didn’t actually match Mr. Obama’s budget document, which ran thousands of pages. But Republicans said they used all of the president’s numbers in the proposal, so it faithfully represented his plan.
Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, even challenged Democrats to point out any errors in the numbers and he would correct them — a challenge no Democrats took up.
carlosgvv
July 8th, 2012
10:41 am
Afghanistan is a losing proposition. I doubt that anyone in their right mind truly thinks anything we do there will have any good lasting influence. And yet, Hillary announces we’re going to make that country a part of NATO and commit billions more there.
I can only think of one reason for this madness. The Military-Industrial-Complex is a surefire winner in this regarless of what else might happen. If they have the power to keep us in that hellhole for years to come, what does this mean in the upcomming election? Will it really matter, in the end, who get elected to The White House?
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
10:43 am
Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, even challenged Democrats to point out any errors in the numbers and he would correct them — a challenge no Democrats took up.
If HE would correct them, that means that HE wrote it. Therefore, that was Jeff Sessions’ budget and not Obama’s. That’s just like me posting something here stupid and saying that it’s your plan. Would you agree with something like that?
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
10:44 am
A letter to the editor of the Northwest Herald – McHenry County, Illinois…
In 2006, Al Gore issued a warning of global warming. Republicans swiftly moved to politicize the issue despite glaring facts to the contrary.
Faith in Rush Limbaugh will overcome science. Rush, by the way, believes that global warming is a hoax and that air conditioning fools us all into believing it is real. You might not want to tell that to the folks in Colorado Springs.
Whenever we had a cold day here in McHenry County, I would hear, “Where is that global warming now?” Never mind that dangerous weather patterns were at work in other parts of the world.
We have just experienced one of the warmest winters on record. Much of the western U.S. is either on fire or experiencing a severe drought. Meanwhile, here in the Chicago area, we have just experienced August temperatures in June. July has begun with continuous 90-degree days and no end in sight.
I have a suggestion: All those global warming naysayers should be banned from the use of air conditioning and be required to stand out in the midday sun for the next week until they boil the goo out of their brains and begin to re-examine their thought processes in regard to science vs. politics.
Anyone who has had the opportunity to view the Alaskan glacier retreat or the ice and snow coverage of Greenland knows firsthand that global warming is real!
And?
July 8th, 2012
10:46 am
Huntsman was a flip flopper on climate change.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/jon-huntsmans-climate-change-flip-flop-explained.php
bman.
July 8th, 2012
10:47 am
Rush Limbaugh? Is that man still popular?
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
10:53 am
bman, I’m sure there are still plenty of dittoheads who love his position as General in the GOP’s War on Women. (Sluts, prostitutes and FemiNazi videos, anyone?)
The salient question is does the loudmouthed lout have any advertisers? LOL…
Hypocrisy is SHINING
July 8th, 2012
11:01 am
“You have the easier task, of course, because you don’t believe much of substance. ”
This from the same blogger who said that another liked to post his opinion as fact…….
And your beliefs are fact?
Mighty Righty
July 8th, 2012
11:06 am
Brosephus™
You are grasping for straws so here is something even you will be able to understand; From the Obama White House’s own web site.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget
It is quite amusing how the looney left who screamed about Bush spending now all of a sudden understand that every penney spent by Bush including the “off budget” wars were approved by a Democrat controlled congress by some of their favorite liberals like Hillary, Clinton, John Kerry, et al. Also the budget deficit that Obama “inherited” and claims he was surprised and didn’t know how bad it was, had his personal stamp of approval when he was in the Senate. He voted for the 400 billion dollar deficit he later said was “unamerican”. It is true not a penney is spent without first being appropriated by congress. The budget however, comes from the president.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
July 8th, 2012
11:07 am
Afghanistan will prove to be a total waste as the Taliban will return, women will be once again treated like dogs, and any hopes of a modern democracy will fade…if not already….
We should take that money and offset the egregious deficit President Trillion promised to fix..he has admitted that he is unable to offer leadership to overcome all the issues he continues to blame on prior adminstration.
A good start is to differentiate between entitlements and enablers and eliminated the latter. I heard a guy call into the Alex Bennett show whe suggested he was entitled to a 35 hour work week like France and a healthcare system which cost him no cash….Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you….seems to be the liberal battle cry most apparent…
Thomas
July 8th, 2012
11:11 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JmA2ClUvUY
pro choice/pro life- whatever
These two young gents are ready now for Congress-
they have even dressed appropriately
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
11:12 am
Oscar:
What question ?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
11:14 am
OBAMA LIES CONTINUE:
Headline (Yahoo News): “Undeterred by independent fact-checkers that have debunked the thrust of their claims, the Obama campaign is redoubling attacks on Mitt Romney as an “outsourcer” in a new TV ad airing in eight battleground states.”
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-ad-calls-romney-problem-job-losses-china-211558697–abc-news-politics.html
Hypocrisy is SHINING
July 8th, 2012
11:18 am
“true Chrisitanity”
You can’t help but shake your head when reading these type of statements. Self aggrandizing and myopic at best.
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
11:20 am
It is quite amusing how the looney left who screamed about Bush spending now all of a sudden understand that every penney spent by Bush including the “off budget” wars were approved by a Democrat controlled congress by some of their favorite liberals like Hillary, Clinton, John Kerry, et al.
You’re amused, but I think it’s downright pathetic at how you try to project stuff onto people when you know absolutely nothing about what THEY personally said. The only problem I ever had with Bush and spending was the fact that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were not on the appropriations bills for defense as they should have been. I think supplimental appropriations should be used for emergency situations only, and planned and executed war is NOT an emergency situation.
It is true not a penney is spent without first being appropriated by congress. The budget however, comes from the president.
Well, damn, are you not the prized trophy of contradiction. Are you not one of the same people who complain that no budget has been passed in 3 years? If the budget is so friggin’ important, why are appropriation bills still being passed by the GOP controlled House without a budget being passed first? It’s quite obvious that you know nothing more about the functioning of Congress and the government beyond the soundbites you’re fed by your rhetorical leaders. Might I suggest you enroll in a community college and take a course or two on civics. Stay away from the Liberal Arts colleges, as I don’t want your education to be biased. Once you learn how things work, then come back to discuss things with me. As it stands now, your lack of knowledge is really beginning to become boring.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
July 8th, 2012
11:24 am
BRO,
Don’t you think that at least submitting a budget that garners at least a few DEM votes….an effort at least, would exemplify a modicum of fiscal leadership? Seems that is sorely lacking as President Trillions sole purpose is to expand entitlements (mostly enablers)….regardless of the fact that we can’t remotely afford these luxuries at this time….
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
July 8th, 2012
11:27 am
So what if a small fraction of Bain’s investments outsourced jobs? Do you think companies are in business simply to employ US workers? Why isn’t Jeffrey Immelt and GE coming under fire for the same tactic? He was or is after all the head of sum BS panel President Trillions established the name of which eludes me presently…
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
11:32 am
Don’t you think that at least submitting a budget that garners at least a few DEM votes….an effort at least, would exemplify a modicum of fiscal leadership?
In normal times, yeah. I would also think that not submitting a budget displays a lack of spine. That said, when half of Congress will vote negative regardless of what you submit, how long do you continue to play these bs games? If/When Congress decides they’re done with the partisanship and really want to do what they’re getting paid to do, then I’d be one of the first to rail against ANY president not doing what they’re supposed to do.
Given the current level of jackassery in DC, I sometimes wish they would all go home for the weekend and not come back at all.
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
11:35 am
“Seems Ole Scout and Del are being strangely silent on their usual f*gs in the military, chest beating and testosterone poisoned screeds…reckon it might be because there a real soldier present…p’rolly…”
Without a doubt.
Don't Forget
July 8th, 2012
11:38 am
Mighty, that was NOT the Obama budget, it was Jeff Session’s budget. He claims it was “based on the same numbers” but if that is true then why didn’t they just offer the “real” Obama budget? Because it was nothing but a political stunt.
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
11:40 am
Don’t Forget
Some people don’t want to understand the difference, no matter how you try to explain it to them.
Doggone/GA
July 8th, 2012
11:41 am
“Do you think companies are in business simply to employ US workers?”
and who has ever said that? But the bottom line is that if they expect to SELL what they make, they better think twice about how many Americans are not working. You can’t sell things to people who don’t have the money to buy.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
11:45 am
It is insourcing vs outsourcing argument.
Insourcing is the winning argument.
barking frog
July 8th, 2012
11:45 am
Well i’m glad we’re out of
Iraq and no longer spending
money there. Also Germany,
Japan, Korea, Italy etc.
larry
July 8th, 2012
11:48 am
So what if a small fraction of Bain’s investments outsourced jobs? And cut jobs.
Then Mr. Romney needs to quit saying he’s a job creator when he’s never been one. Not at Bain nor as Governor.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-20/romney-as-job-creator-clashes-with-bain-record-of-job-cuts.html
getalife
July 8th, 2012
11:48 am
frog,
Actually we are spending money in Iraq and they have a huge surplus.
The gop lied about cuts.
larry
July 8th, 2012
11:51 am
But the bottom line is that if they expect to SELL what they make, they better think twice about how many Americans are not working. You can’t sell things to people who don’t have the money to buy.
That in itself is the reason we are in this quandry now. Its not regulations , its not taxes. Its demand.
It all starts a downward spiral into a hole we are slowly getting out of.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
11:52 am
willard’s record on job creation in Mass. was horrible.
Don’t expect a different result like our cons.
larry
July 8th, 2012
11:52 am
Actually we are spending money in Iraq and they have a huge surplus.
And they have government health care too.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
11:53 am
Uh Oh:
The law is the law.
Who is the “real” soldier present?
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
11:55 am
You can’t sell things to people who don’t have the money to buy.
I’ll co-sign that!!
getalife
July 8th, 2012
11:56 am
larry,
Yes, they do and they use oil money to pay for it.
The smartest thing the Iraqi government has done so far.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
11:57 am
Hypocrisy is SHINING:
“true Chrisitanity”
“You can’t help but shake your head when reading these type of statements. Self aggrandizing and myopic at best.”
Could you expound a little? Do you not think there is true Christianity and false Christianity as expressed by individuals?
Christianity is not like joining a club or being a UGA fan ……….. it’s a supernatural change of the heart. Only God and the person truly know …………. outsiders can only guess.
That’s why Jesus said in reference to “some” of those in the future who would claim His name, “depart from Me for I never knew you”. Matthew 7:23
Doggone/GA
July 8th, 2012
11:58 am
“It all starts a downward spiral into a hole we are slowly getting out of.”
yes, it did. And business…especially large business…could have done something to slow that downward spiral if they had chosen to continue employing people they let go. Yes, they might have been paying people they didn’t really need to meet their demand at the time, but they would also have helped to keep that hole from getting deeper. And yes, that might have meant lower profiits in the short term, but it would have also meant a better long term outlook.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
11:58 am
Scout,
I read the factcheck.org article detailing the Obama LIE campaign about Romney outsourcing jobs while at Bain Capital. Romney better get it together and realize that he’s going up against some truly despicable people who have zero problem telling flat out lies with a straight face.
The most ironical thing about the big Obama LIE is that the czar of his jobs council- Jeffrey Immelt of GE, is one of the biggest outsourcers out there. In addition to paying virtually no income tax last year he outsources hundreds of thousands of jobs. And this is the man O picked to lead his jobs council? It just doesn’t get any more ironical. It just don’t…
From that bastion of neo- con propoganda called the Huffington post.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-paul/should-ges-jeffrey-immelt_b_812132.html
“Let’s look at GE’s jobs record. You would have difficulty finding a company that has outsourced more jobs and closed more American factories than GE. While they have slashed their American workforce to fewer than 150,000, GE has dramatically expanded its global presence, now employing over 300,000 workers worldwide. Yes, GE has brought a trickle of jobs back to the U.S. over the past two years, but it still outsources more than it insources.”
larry
July 8th, 2012
11:58 am
“You know, there’s a lot of talk in this country about the federal deficit. But I think we should talk more about our empathy deficit – the ability to put ourselves in someone else’s shoes; to see the world through the eyes of those who are different from us – the child who’s hungry, the steelworker who’s been laid-off, the family who lost the entire life they built together when the storm came to town. When you think like this – when you choose to broaden your ambit of concern and empathize with the plight of others, whether they are close friends or distant strangers – it becomes harder not to act; harder not to help.”
— Barack Obama
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
11:58 am
How about those lies !
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-ad-calls-romney-problem-job-losses-china-211558697–abc-news-politics.html
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
11:59 am
Thulsa:
Thank you and notice how the libs. are a little quiet on that one this morning.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
12:00 pm
7) To the American people: “It’s absolutely not a tax increase !” http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/obama-campaign-its-a-penalty-not-a-tax-127721.html
6) To the American people: “Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this Presidency.”
5) To Larry King: “There has been a tendency by this administration to hide behind executive privilege.”
4) Speech to an Hispanic group: “With respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that’s just not the case ………. ”
3) To the American people: “The private sector is doing just fine.”
2) Please pass to Vladimir: “After the election I’ll have more flexibility.” http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?feature=player_embedded&v=-Czo5Vf8KZs
1) To the American electorate: “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
BINGO !!
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
12:01 pm
“the child who’s hungry, the steelworker who’s been laid-off, the family who lost the entire life they built together when the storm came to town”
emotional rhetoric alert on aisle 15.
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
12:03 pm
Romney better get it together and realize that he’s going up against some truly despicable people who have zero problem telling flat out lies with a straight face.
Seems to me that both candidates have no problem at doing that. It’s not a one-sided affair at all. Seems that they are doing unto others as others have done unto them. This isn’t the first time that candidates have done that, and something tells me that this won’t be the last time either.
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
12:03 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
Worry about your walk with your God and let others do the same
Enough said
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
12:04 pm
Scout,
They all embellish and exaggerate to some degree but as the factcheck article points out this is just a flat out LIE campaign by the Obama campaign. These people have no shame. None.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
12:05 pm
GE is deflection of blame.
willard will do the same thing to our country as he did to bankrupt companies.
Vulture capitalism.
Own it cons.
larry
July 8th, 2012
12:06 pm
What Romney skips is his experience in eliminating jobs. It’s a facet of his career that presents a particular challenge for the Republican primary frontrunner: Tough business decisions don’t necessarily translate into good politics.
As head of private equity firm Bain Capital LLC, Romney was the lead deal-maker, buying and selling companies to make money for investors. Whether companies boomed or filed for bankruptcy, the Boston-based firm found profits for Romney, its other executives and investors. Romney, who spent most of his career at Bain, estimated his wealth in 2007 at as much as $250 million. He has yet to update his financial status for the 2012 presidential campaign.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
12:07 pm
Bro,
I’m sure some of the Romney campaign claims are disputable even though I cannot think of one. But I haven’t seen a Romney campaign claim that is nothing more than a flat out LIE like this whopper by the Obama campaign. And they know its a bald faced lie is what’s really bad.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
12:07 pm
We would be here all day listing gop lies but the biggest whoppers are cutting spending and running on jobs.
larry
July 8th, 2012
12:09 pm
Bain and the campaign didn’t respond to requests for job creation estimates
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
12:10 pm
“These people have no shame.”
Does this guy have shame?
http://factcheck.org/2012/05/romneys-gross-exaggeration-on-obamacare/
getalife
July 8th, 2012
12:10 pm
When they fact check willard we get pants on fire.
The man just can’t tell the truth.
carlosgvv
July 8th, 2012
12:14 pm
Scout
From a draft by George Washington, and signed by John Adams in 1797:
“The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion”
Of course, you know more about America’s founding than two founding fathers. Right?
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
12:15 pm
So what if a small fraction of Bain’s investments outsourced jobs?
Writes the guy who has written on this very forum that forty years of flat-lined wages for a huge majority of American working families is a good thing…
True Christians?
A lifetime of evidence has shown me that they are generally some of the biggest liars and unethical frauds around…
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
12:15 pm
Just want to remind everyone to tell relatives, friends, etc. to watch it with the alcohol and water activities. My gf’s cousin died yesterday. He was at a local lake, they had been drinking, and he dove into the water and never came up. We suspect he hit the bottom hard and broke his neck which is a frequent occurrence with tall, lean young men diving into swimming pools/lakes. But we don’t know yet and the autopsy will let us know. He was a young man in his early 30s and leaves behind 3 young daughters. Damn that sucks.
Also on Lake Lanier I go to the Holiday Marina which is where that seadoo accident occurred yesterday where 2 kids were seriously hurt. I’m guessing alcohol or just plain recklessness was involved. So everyone be careful out there during the summer season. Lotta crazies, lotta poor judgement, and a lotta alcohol that just makes things more dangerous for everyone.
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
12:15 pm
“I’m sure some of the Romney campaign claims are disputable even though I cannot think of one”
One only need to open their partisan eyes to realize that lies are being told on all sides.
http://factcheck.org/2012/06/romneys-solar-flareout/
getalife
July 8th, 2012
12:16 pm
You cons don’t love willard do you.
Don't Forget
July 8th, 2012
12:21 pm
Thulsa Doom
“Romney better get it together and realize that he’s going up against some truly despicable people who have zero problem telling flat out lies with a straight face.”
REALLY??? You wanna go there? Ok lets! Just go through the pages upon pages of republican lies from this link. Seems the closest the republicans can come to truth is just a half truth.
http://www.politifact.com/search/?q=obamacare
So, why aren’t those people despicable to you too?
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
12:22 pm
Doomy, good advice. Alcohol and boats (like cars) is a real bad idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkgozdtsh_g
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
12:23 pm
I’m sure some of the Romney campaign claims are disputable even though I cannot think of one.
Honestly, I wouldn’t expect otherwise from you. That would be no different than expecting getalife to find anything disputable that Obama’s camp has claimed.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/fact-check-romney-distorts-obama-position-on-israel-20120126
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/romneys-whopper-claim-on-an-obama-health-care-pledge/2012/07/03/gJQAVhk3IW_blog.html
I tried to find unbiased sources, but as things are in this country right now, you’re more likely to find Jimmy Hoffa, Elvis, and Tupac living together before you find something “unbiased”.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
12:23 pm
doomy,
I had a friend drown at Lake Lanier on my friends boat.
A old girlfriend that lives on the lake called and said they are cracking down on bui’s.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
12:25 pm
Uh oh,
Read the article please. As factcheck points out its an erroneous claim and exaggeration by Romney. But the farther you read into the article you realize that Romney either misspoke or that he is not that far off to begin with. The near 50% pertains to the level of govt spending on healthcare which is according to the article at 43% already and as the article points out will rise to 49%. His error is in stating that all health care will be under govt control because he considers Obamacare to be a government intrusion into health care. An inaccurate perception but not an out and out lie- especially since many consider Obamacare as govt control of healthcare though it is not- it is merely quite a heavy dose of govt regulation or quasi-control of how private health care will now be run.
“Mitt Romney falsely claims government will “constitute … almost 50 percent” of the U.S. economy when the new federal health care law takes full effect. But Romney gets to 50 percent by erroneously counting all health care spending — private and public — as “effectively under government control once Obamacare is fully implemented,” as his spokesman put it.”
Later on it says the following below:
“All government spending on health care amounted to 43.6 percent of total spending on health care in 2009, before the new law was enacted in March 2010. And by 2020, after several years of full implementation, it will still account for just 49.2 percent — according to the most recent annual projections by the acknowledged authority on the subject, the Office of Actuary in the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
carlosgvv
July 8th, 2012
12:28 pm
Brosephus
Someone on This Week had an interesting and, at the same time sad, idea. He said to go to a good Canadian site to get honest, unbiased news about our politicians.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
12:30 pm
Bro,
“That would be no different than expecting getalife to find anything disputable that Obama’s camp has claimed.”
Oh that is easy.
They claimed the unemployment rate would be lower.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
12:32 pm
carlos,
Do you remember the name of the Canadian source?
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
12:32 pm
Thulsa Doom
If you want to stick by that claim that you do not know of any disputable claims by the Romney camp and really believe that, regardless of the facts, I will let you get back to your dreams.
Romney camp has put out whoppers just like Obama. Only difference is that you are willing to call out one side and sidestep and make excuses for the other.
Your reality on this issue is distorted. You chose but still distorted
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
12:35 pm
carlos
That’s quite sad, but not something that I’d disagree with. When I do my scan for news, I’ll use sources outside the US from time to time. When doing so, I try to avoid wire service reports if I can, as those are usually a story written by one and just passed around like Halloween candy.
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
12:35 pm
getalife
getalife
July 8th, 2012
12:37 pm
Actually, most “news” is AP reporting then added bias by other “pundits”.
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
12:37 pm
Mendacious Mitt? The man flips more than a pancake cook.
Romney now proudly says that he is a “lifetime” member of the NRA.
In reality, Romney vigorously opposed the NRA. And only became a “lifetime” member recently by buying the honor from the group.
His history on the matter?
He signed the nation’s first ban on assault weapons in Massachusetts and steeply increased fees on gun owners by 400%. He also backed a gun-control measures that was strongly opposed by the National Rifle Association: the Brady Law, which imposed a five-day waiting period on gun sales.
Watch out cons! He’s gonna take your guns next!
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
12:42 pm
Brocephus,
On the Washington post article I see a disagreement in the numbers- not an out and out lie. Secondly the author of that post flat out admits that part of the problem is the vagueness and inaccuracy of Obama’s promises and statements on the subject- which simply engenders more disagreement on the numbers and accuracy of what O was claiming or not claiming. And in reading it there is certainly room for disagreement on the numbers. If a conservative campaign were to carefully look at the numbers and assumptions the author was using to rebut Romney I’ve no doubt he could pick apart the errors in this gentleman’s assumptions and why this gentleman thinks R was wrong.
Now on to Romney’s statement on O on Israel. He was wrong on what O said in a debate. All candidates are going to say inaccurate things in debates and Romney’s assertion was that O was silent on the Palestinian bomb attacks on Israel. He was wrong though because O had condemned the attacks a year or 2 earlier in a speech. Romney is not going to know every single thing that O has or has not said on every single topic. Being wrong on one statement in a debate is totally different from an orchestrated, pre-meditated lie such as the Obama lie that Romney was outsourcing jobs at Bain. And I expect O will say some things that are inaccurate and misleading about Romney on the stump or in a debate. That I expect but not orchestrated campaign lies.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
12:46 pm
carlos,
Was it the National post, CBC or Daily Mail?
I look at those and most of it is bragging about how Canada is better than us.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
12:47 pm
Uh oh,
I explained it very easily that even you could understand it. I notice in your rebuttal you did not try to rebut my explanation. You just went into some jibberish about excuses and distortions and reality. Perhaps you need to recheck your own version of reality and the rose colored glasses that you look through. Cult of personality worship is a leftist phenomenon not a conservative one.
Mighty Righty
July 8th, 2012
12:50 pm
Brosephus:
I seriously doubt you want to compare degrees I graduated from a non liberal arts state university at a time when there were no feel good, PC or affirmitive action degrees. I am sure you really didn’t mean what you said below:
“I think supplimental appropriations should be used for emergency situations only, and planned and executed” war is NOT an emergency situation”
An amazing statement. War is not an emergency!
My fellow GI’s would have disagreed about war being an emergency.
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
12:50 pm
“Cult of personality worship is a leftist phenomenon not a conservative one.”
Reagan was a leftist?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
12:51 pm
carlosgvv:
Agree to disagree.
All he was stating is that the United States is not a “theocracy”. No one wants that ……… with a state church, religious tests, etc., etc.
“By their actions, the Founding Fathers made clear that their primary concern was religious freedom, not the advancement of a state religion. Individuals, not the government, would define religious faith and practice in the United States.”
Here is the last paragraph from his Inaugural Address in 1789 which clarifies his postion.
“Having thus imported to you my sentiments, as they have been awakened by the occasion which brings us together, I shall take my present leave; but not without resorting once more to the benign parent of the human race, in humble supplication that since he has been pleased to favour the American people, with opportunities for deliberating in perfect tranquility, and dispositions for deciding with unparellelled unanimity on a form of Government, for the security of their Union, and the advancement of their happiness; so his divine blessing may be equally conspicuous in the enlarged views, the temperate consultations, and the wise measures on which the success of this Government must depend.” George Washington
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
12:51 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/company-at-center-of-romneys-latest-attack-didnt-move-because-of-obamacare/2012/06/13/gJQA49iKaV_blog.html
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
12:52 pm
From time to time, all politicians stretch the truth, but Mitt Romney is in a league of his own. Whether he’s talking about himself or his opponent, he’s one of the most consistently dishonest politicians ever to seek the presidency. He spouts so much nonsense it’s almost like he’s delusional, but he’s not. He knows he’s lying. He’s not the kind of guy who actually believes in conspiracy theories. He’s the kind of guy who, when it serves his own interest, creates conspiracy theories for others to believe. And the great thing about this video is that it efficiently and persuasively exposes Romney for who he really is: an unscrupulous salesman.
The Obama campaign takes seven of Mitt Romney’s attacks on President Obama and exposes each one of them as transparent lies in this 84 second, must-watch video:
DO NOT LOOK AT THIS VIDEO, ROMNEYBOTS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM9DVC7kd7s&feature=player_embedded
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
12:52 pm
Bush was a leftist?
Took the right almost 6 yrs to realize that the man was a dud. Some of the same one’s saying I never liked him, are the same ones who were defending him to the hilt
Oblama
July 8th, 2012
12:54 pm
Bonnie Fwank gets married and the comic book that is D.C. goes on.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
12:54 pm
Uh Oh @ 12:03
“Worry about your walk with your God and let others do the same
Enough said”
You sure are a little testy today.
My Bible tells me to let my walk with God be seen !
“Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 5:16
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
12:55 pm
Thulsa:
We got ‘em going !!! ……………………
Out for awhile ! Everyone be nice and no name calling !
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
12:56 pm
Rush is a leftist?
While many on the right do not listen to him, he does have the most listened to show on the radio. While some of his audience certainly listens to disagree and laugh, are you naive to think the majority of his followers are not right of center.
Is that not ‘cult of personality’ or do you have another weak stereotype that I can easily debunk?
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
12:57 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
“we got em going”
You have a frog in your pocket?
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
12:58 pm
Reagan was a leftist?
Are you referring to the month long pukefest on Fox, et al, when he kicked the bucket?
HOT AIR
July 8th, 2012
12:58 pm
JV – When you become perfect then you can sit in judgement of others and we will listen – until then it is just HOT AIR.
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
1:00 pm
we will listen
We?
Tell it to your pocket gerbils…
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
1:00 pm
“My Bible tells me to let my walk with God be seen !”
Your walk makes you the arbitrator of all things Christian? Some of the things you post make it seem that way.
carlosgvv
July 8th, 2012
1:01 pm
getalife – 12:46
They did not mention a specific site.
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
1:02 pm
Cult of personality
Every election almost every candidate running attempts to cloak themselves in the persona of Reagan and attempt to resurrect his ghost. And someone from the right claims it is a leftist thing.
Thanks for the chuckles
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
1:03 pm
“When you become perfect then you can sit in judgement of others and we will listen – until then it is just HOT AIR.”
Time for you to stop avoiding looking at mirrors
getalife
July 8th, 2012
1:04 pm
reagan did not even know where he was at the end of his term.
HOT AIR
July 8th, 2012
1:04 pm
Uh Oh – HOT AIR ……….. your opinion is – HOT AIR
getalife
July 8th, 2012
1:05 pm
carlos,
Thanks.
“Got em going?”
Nah, just the same ole lies.
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
1:05 pm
Doom
You prove my point. You will justify Romney’s mis-steps just as an Obama supporter will justify his. Both of them bend the truth and/or outright misrepresent it. Just goes to show that the faithful will always find a way to accept it.
——————————
An amazing statement. War is not an emergency!
And even more amazing that you purposefully truncated what I said. A planned and executed war is not an emergency. Responding to a Pearl Harbor is an emergency. If you know you’re going to attack someone 2 years out, something tells me that does not really qualify as an emergency. As I’ve often heard others say, “A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.”
Even if you want to consider war an emergency, the baseline operations should still go into the general budget after the first year since you already know that you’re going to need to spend the money. Using accounting tricks, such as special appropriation funding to pay for it is intellectually dishonest.
Also, for the record Mighty Righty, I don’t get into pissing contest about comparing degrees and such. I didn’t suggest that, and if you feel the need to flaunt your degrees to mask your lack of civics knowledge, feel free to do so.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
1:06 pm
doomy,
“I had a friend drown at Lake Lanier on my friends boat.”
getalife,
That sucks. I would be willing to bet there are quite a few of us that know someone or know of someone that died on Lanier or one of the other lakes. Terribly unfortunate.
barking frog
July 8th, 2012
1:07 pm
Right hates the working
poor because they don’t
pay taxes, get food stamps
and subsidized housing.
Left hates the working poor
because they are healthcare
moochers.
At last the war on the
impoverished is bipartisan.
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
1:07 pm
…or do you have another weak stereotype that I can easily debunk?
Too funny.
More Rascals…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy625sZAHN8&feature=related
Oblama
July 8th, 2012
1:09 pm
Reagan – I knew Reagan and Obama is definitely to the FAR left of Reagan. Obama wants you to think he is Reagan but he is against everything Reagan stood for. Obama is no Reagan.
carlosgvv
July 8th, 2012
1:10 pm
getalife
Try
newsroom-magazine.com
I’m not sure if they are Canadianl
getalife
July 8th, 2012
1:11 pm
Good article comparing willard to his Dad:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-adv-romney-civil-rights-20120708,0,6356985.story
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
1:14 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkL3Wogl4bI
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
1:15 pm
Brocephus,
I read each of your complaints regarding Romney and it seems to me there is a big difference between a misstatement or simply being wrong and an orchestrated lie. And as I said I don’t fault Obama much for simple misstatements of truth which happen all the time and which all candidates will make. Regardless though we will politely agree to disagree as always and move on.
St Simons
July 8th, 2012
1:16 pm
kamikaze trolling – its all the rage in greater wingnuttia on the tubes.
and will have the same ultimate result in the battle of the forces
of Good over Evil.
Its a beautiful day in an America saved by our president from
neocon trickle down destruction. Les go surfin
getalife
July 8th, 2012
1:16 pm
Thanks carlos,
I am always looking for unbiased sources.
doomy,
I was getting hammered at a bar when I got the call so let my girlfriend drive me down to the lake to search. They said he had a heart attack when he hit the water at night. I spent a lot of time on that lake and Lake Mead and the Colorado river. My favorite places to go.
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
1:18 pm
“Reagan – I knew Reagan”
No, you did not. You knew of and about Reagan.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
1:21 pm
Uh oh,
When I see people wearing cool looking red, green, and gold silhouetted t-shirts of Reagan or any other con running for office the same way they have all those t-shirts of Obama then maybe you will have some credibility regarding the man worshipping cult of personality phenomenon. Until then the man worshipping crap is a product of sheeple on the left. And you know that.
Bonnie Fwank
July 8th, 2012
1:22 pm
My boyfriend got caught with little boys in my basement. Did I have anything to do with it? According to what your meaning of “is” is. Now I’m gonna retire from screwing up the real estate market with my demands for the banks to loan to those that can’t pay for the houses. You can thank me for the mess that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are in if you want to. Even though I was on C-Span threatening the banks to lend or be fined and sued by the Fed – I deny being responsible and I m going to retire to my fat pension and free health care. I’m arrogant, I’m low life, and I’m proud of it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
1:23 pm
I seriously doubt you want to compare degrees I graduated from a non liberal arts state university at a time when there were no feel good, PC or affirmitive action degrees.
I graduated simultaneously from Harvard, Yale, Brown, Princeton, MIT, CalTech and the University of Oxford in England.
I swam the Bering Sea from Alaska to Russia naked.
I can make The Most Interesting Man in the World cry like a four-year-old girl.
I scored the winning goal in the past 5 World Cup Finals.
I free dived to the bottom of the Marianas Trench naked.
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
1:24 pm
Thulsa
You must be one who is in the Reagan camp.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
1:24 pm
The idea that one man can change corrupt congress is over.
It is the people’s job to do that so lets stop blaming the pols and lets start blaming the American voters for reelecting congress.
Deal?
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
1:24 pm
getalife,
Did he dive into cold water? Cold water can shock a man, even a young healthy man and trigger a heart attack. Even just cool but not cold water can do it. I suspect that may have been what happened though I’m no MD. Where’s Don’t Forget when ya need him?
HOT AIR
July 8th, 2012
1:25 pm
JV – It takes a pukefest to know one.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
1:26 pm
Uh oh,
You must be the one wearing the silhouetted Obama t-shirt. Or is it dirty and in the laundry so you’re wearing your cool Che shirt instead?
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
1:27 pm
http://conservativebuys.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop/reagan
getalife
July 8th, 2012
1:29 pm
doomy,
It was at night in the middle of summer so the water was cooler.
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
1:29 pm
Thulsa
No, I’m not the one who is so naive to think that political campaigns are not dirty and filled with lies. I said as much. It is you still making excuses for Romney
getalife
July 8th, 2012
1:30 pm
bonnie,
Get your cheap shots in while you can because his career is ending on a happy note by getting married.
You wish you had his intellect don’t you?
Uh Oh
July 8th, 2012
1:35 pm
“So if I see a tshirt…………” hahahahaha
Every Republican candidate longs to be Reagan an can’t say his name enough, many on right can’t bring him up enough (Doom being the main one of this blog) and that is not “cult of personality”
alrighty…….
be good people
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
1:36 pm
Uh oh @ 1:29,
I guess you moved on from the lies of political campaigns to some nonsense about Reagan. Speaking of Reagan here’s one guy who just loves to invoke his name. We can only post 2 links at a time so I’ll keep his adulation of Reagan to a minimum. He do love his Reagan remembrances don’t he?
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/04/8153739-obama-invokes-reagan-takes-on-cantor?lite
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/buffett-rule-could-be-reagan-rule-obama-says/
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
1:37 pm
Smog, clever.
You probably think that Dennis Miller is the funniest man in the world.
Obama wants you to think he is Reagan but he is against everything Reagan stood for.
Do you mean allowing disgraced marines to run illegal operations out of the White House basement? And everybody involved playing stupid to perfection?
Or arming and abetting damn near every murderous dictator and thug around the globe?
Or granting amnesty to illegal immigrants?
Or his growing homelessness to record levels?
Or maybe the always popular S&L scandals and bailouts?
Or perhaps the full scale assault on working class wages?
The man’s administration was a train wreck.
Thanks gawd, BHO is not like him…
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
1:39 pm
Uh oh,
Big difference between worshipping a man as left wing cultists do and admiring a political philosophy of free markets and limited govt. You be sure to lemme know when you see one a them cultist cons wearing t-shirts of Reagan or any other con. Ya hear now?
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
1:42 pm
getalife,
Unfortunately that could do it. Even a light shock to the system of an older man or a man that may have some issues I suspect could trigger a heart attack. Between that and all the alcohol on our lakes and rivers seems an unfortunate number of people needlessly die every year on our waterways.
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
1:42 pm
get, exactly like geedub, Willard is not a tenth of the man his father was.
Not intellectually, morally or in courage…
BTW, the facts are that Reagan EXPLODED the size, scope, cost, ineptitude and interference of the federal government.
Time to pull out an oldie but goodie…
Ronald Reagan is not the solution to our problems, Ronald Reagan is the problem. ~Thomas Jefferson
getalife
July 8th, 2012
1:44 pm
reagan was a bad President but not as bad as w.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
1:49 pm
doomy,
It was a shock because he was a tough and very strong man.
Most of my friends died in car accidents and I was with two of them.
One rolled the car about 10 times and the other head on.
My neck and back remind me of these crashes everyday.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
1:50 pm
Reagan personally tore down the Berlin Wall with one hand tied behind his back while standing on on leg.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
1:53 pm
I heard Ronnie actually stood there in front of the little pig’s brick wall and said that he would huff and puff and blow with a huge tax hike followed by giving Iran and nice big wet one on the lips.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
1:54 pm
Jam,
willard’s Dad was a much better man and born in Mexico.
willard does not even have the guts to discuss his Mexican roots.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
1:55 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yopp6aU6Auk
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
1:55 pm
The Reagan legend just keeps on growing. Kamchak must be one of them former East Germans spreading the Reagan legend. Ronnie’s ghost says “You are welcome kam!” But lets not get carried away. He was in fact standing on both legs.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
1:58 pm
Georgia hospitals lost 1.5 billion last year treating uninsured patients. Is that a good business model. I wonder what will happen if they continue on their path of more of the same.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
1:59 pm
I heard Ronnie actually stood there in front of the little pig’s brick wall blah blah blah….
Libs do love they revisionist history they do.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
2:04 pm
I expect TSPLOST to pass given that it moves us one more step closer to implementation of a tax scheme that resembles the so-called “Fair Tax.” A penny of consumption tax at a time to cover everything from roads to schools, etc., and we should be able to eliminate property and income taxes by time we hit that 25 cents on the dollar consumption tax rate. How can a Republican resist. A vote of YES for TSPLOST is a vote for the Fair Tax.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
2:04 pm
Reagan kicked Chuck Norris’, Jean-Claude Van Damme’s, Jet Li’s and Jason Statham’s asses in a steel cage death match blind-folded.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
2:05 pm
Yes, when Ronnie spoke it did sound like blah blah blah. How could anyone argue that.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
2:07 pm
Chuck Norris said he could take Obama with his Walker tied behind his back.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
2:08 pm
Bain Capital said things just haven’t been the same since losing their Chief Executive Offshorer, Mitt.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 8th, 2012
2:10 pm
Ronnie wouldve been a tea partier
And willard’s dad wouldve been more of a con than Willard is
Silly liberals
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
2:13 pm
Reagan = 16.1 million net new jobs, 21 million from the bottom of the recession, and 7-9% economic growth just a couple of qtrs out of the worst recession since the great depression. Just the facts mam. Just the facts.
Obama? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!
Don't Forget
July 8th, 2012
2:14 pm
T shirts, get your Reagan T shirts……
http://www.zazzle.com/reagan+tshirts
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
2:16 pm
TSPLOST
Vote no for several reasons.
Any roads built will be congested and out of date by the time they are completed. Happens every time. More roads just contribute to and cause more sprawl.
We don’t need another tax.
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
2:19 pm
Ronnhie employed basic Keynes economic theory to stimule the economy. He reduced taxes and increase government spending financed by borrowing. Works but runs up deficit and expands the money supply. Look at the increase in national debt. Upturn started when Ronnie was in.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
2:21 pm
The truth about reagan is:
“Reagan was a serial tax raiser. As governor of California, Reagan “signed into law the largest tax increase in the history of any state up till then.” Meanwhile, state spending nearly doubled.
Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion, “roughly three times as much as the first 80 years of the century had done altogether.”
Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts. Unemployment jumped to 10.8 percent after Reagan enacted his much-touted tax cut, and it took years for the rate to get back down to its previous level. Meanwhile, income inequality exploded.
Reagan grew the size of the federal government tremendously. Reagan promised “to move boldly, decisively, and quickly to control the runaway growth of federal spending,” but federal spending “ballooned” under Reagan. He bailed out Social Security in 1983 after attempting to privatize it, and set up a progressive taxation system to keep it funded into the future.
Reagan did little to fight a woman’s right to chose. As governor of California in 1967, Reagan signed a bill to liberalize the state’s abortion laws that “resulted in more than a million abortions.”
Reagan was a “bellicose peacenik.” He wrote in his memoirs that “[m]y dream…became a world free of nuclear weapons.”
Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants. Reagan signed into law a bill that made any immigrant who had entered the country before 1982 eligible for amnesty.
Reagan illegally funneled weapons to Iran. Reagan and other senior U.S. officials secretly sold arms to officials in Iran, which was subject to a an arms embargo at the time, in exchange for American hostages. Some funds from the illegal arms sales also went to fund anti-Communist rebels in Nicaragua — something Congress had already prohibited the administration from doing.
Reagan vetoed a comprehensive anti-Apartheid act. which placed sanctions on South Africa and cut off all American trade with the country. Reagan’s veto was overridden by the Republican-controlled Senate.
Reagan helped create the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. Reagan fought a proxy war with the Soviet Union by training, arming, equipping, and funding Islamist mujahidin fighters in Afghanistan. Reagan funneled billions of dollars, along with top-secret intelligence and sophisticated weaponry to these fighters through the Pakistani intelligence service. The Talbian and Osama Bin Laden — a prominent mujahidin commander — emerged from these mujahidin groups Reagan helped create, and U.S. policy towards Pakistan remains strained because of the intelligence services’ close relations to these fighters.”
doomy worships that.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 8th, 2012
2:22 pm
In Aliens v Predators: Tear Down that Planet, Regan with his bare hands destroys the home planets of both species while that sissy Ted Nugent cries in the corner.
But wait…. at the end of the movie, some of Grover Norquist’s DNA survives despite repeated “fees and penalties” from Mitt (before Mitt fell to Regan’s tax increases)….. oh no, Ronnie may be have to face Republican’s greatest enemy yet…. GROVER!
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
2:22 pm
I read each of your complaints regarding Romney and it seems to me there is a big difference between a misstatement or simply being wrong and an orchestrated lie.
I never disputed there being a difference. I simply refuse to make excuses for one party doing that while excoriating the other for the exact same thing. We don’t disagree as much as you think we do. I just won’t make excuses or explanations for either side. That said, I’m moving beyond this.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
2:24 pm
Let’s follow in Ronnie’s bootsteps and borrow more money. After all, it worked so well for G.W.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
2:25 pm
Grover is Ronnie’s illegitimate step child.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
2:28 pm
Tax,
I watched reagan’s son talk about being molested and he is outspoken on the issue.
reagan was not a very good father.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
2:32 pm
Historical narratives matter. That’s why conservatives are still writing books denouncing F.D.R. and the New Deal; they understand that the way Americans perceive bygone eras, even eras from the seemingly distant past, affects politics today.
Bill Clinton knew that in 1991, when he began his presidential campaign. “The Reagan-Bush years,” he declared, “have exalted private gain over public obligation, special interests over the common good, wealth and fame over work and family. The 1980s ushered in a Gilded Age of greed and selfishness, of irresponsibility and excess, and of neglect.”
The Reagan economy was a one-hit wonder. Yes, there was a boom in the mid-1980s, as the economy recovered from a severe recession. But while the rich got much richer, there was little sustained economic improvement for most Americans. By the late 1980s, middle-class incomes were barely higher than they had been a decade before — and the poverty rate had actually risen.
When the inevitable recession arrived, people felt betrayed — a sense of betrayal that Mr. Clinton was able to ride into the White House.
I understand why conservatives want to rewrite history and pretend that these good things happened while a Republican was in office — or claim, implausibly, that the 1981 Reagan tax cut somehow deserves credit for positive economic developments that didn’t happen until 14 or more years had passed. (Does Richard Nixon get credit for “Morning in America”?)
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/21/opinion/21krugman.html?_r=1
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
2:33 pm
Don’t Forget,
I’ll let you know if I ever see one of them Reagan t-shirts being worn. To date I never have and I seriously doubt any con on here has either.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
2:34 pm
Krugman = no credibility.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
2:35 pm
They will try to rewrite history for w too.
w is in Africa because the only people he helped are Africans.
They love w in Africa.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
2:36 pm
doomy = no credibility.
Krugman predicted the collapse so he is credible.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
2:39 pm
So let me get this right, cult of personality can only be invoked if Thulsa Doom as actually seen someone wearing a tshirt of the individual he says others worship. Otherwise he plays semantics a games to show why the cult of personality doesn’t hold true for anyone on the right.
Have to love that logic or lack thereof.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
2:39 pm
Of course. The only credibility comes from people like Rove or Briebart……………
And?
July 8th, 2012
2:40 pm
In what was his most memorable campaign moment, Huntsman decided to use the January 7th debate to go after Romney’s escalating China bashing with a clever demonstration of his Mandarin skills with a blithe “他不太了解這個情形.” Mitt was naturally baffled and Huntsman condescendingly translated that as “He doesn’t quite understand the situation” and followed up by re-assuming his role as ambassador to China and presenting a little lecture from Hu Jintao. Huntsman smugly warned Romney — and worried Americans at home — that attempting to hold China accountable to global trade norms and the agreements they’ve signed would result in a retaliatory trade war. Romney’s poll numbers shot up and Huntsman finished a distant fourth in the New Hampshire primary he’d fought hard for because the candidate from Beijing doesn’t appear to understand the situation in America.
That situation is a harsh reality where more than 20 percent of Americans are either unemployed or tragically underemployed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-navarro-and-greg-autry/huntsman-drops-out_b_1208215.html
Would the “moderates” Brosephus & JamVet still like the opportunity to vote for Huntsman after reading the facts?
No?
I didn’t think so.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
2:45 pm
getalife,
So is it Reagan’s fault that a camp counselor molested Michael Reagan?
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
2:46 pm
Would the “moderates” Brosephus & JamVet still like the opportunity to vote for Huntsman after reading the facts?
Hopefully, your ability to work, earn a living, and support yourself is not predicated on your ability to think. Given the choices the GOP put forth vs the incumbent, Huntsman would still get my vote as a better person to lead the country. Thank you for playing though, and as a parting gift, you’ll receive the Bookman Blog™ Board Game as a consolation prize.
If you’re not Brosephus, don’t try to think or act like Brosephus. You’ll only end up looking like a fool.
Bonnie Fwank
July 8th, 2012
2:48 pm
Why is Jam Vet so agitated today? Lithium is the answer.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
2:48 pm
Love me some Reagan,
Sorry dude but anyone with 2 ounces of common sense knows that cult of personality is a phenomenon of the left? Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, O. I’ve seen tons of people wearing Obama t-shirts. In my entire life I’ve never seen anyone walking around with a picture of Reagan or any other big time con on their shirt. And I suspect even you admit that. Now put down the koolaid sport.
Oblama
July 8th, 2012
2:50 pm
Bonnie – ObamaCare will furnish free lithium but they won’t open your mouth and push it in. He has to take the pills for it to work. Understand?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
2:50 pm
Don’t downplay the fact that, although Reagan was a brilliant politican — and maybe even a good husband, he was sh##t for a father.
The fact remains that not only one child but another has come forward with tales of Reagan and Nancy’s “parenting” skills being subpar. One child, you might be able to blow off — two?…..
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
2:52 pm
“In Aliens v Predators: Tear Down that Planet….”
Nonsensical gobbledeegook alert @ 2:22.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
2:52 pm
Thulsa
Is that your definition? Let me guess, you have unbiased information to back up your claim in regards to cult of personality being a phenomenon of the left?
Based on what I have read in just a few minutes, you are as biased and partisan as anyone on the left.
Fooling yourself doesn’t mean others are fooled
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
2:54 pm
DDR,
And a third child says he was a great dad. I notice the trend seems to be personal attacks on the man, his character, even his parenthood. I guess if folks can’t attack his record on jobs or economic growth then personal attacks is what they are reduced to. Sad.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
2:54 pm
Republicans yearn for more Greenspan and Gramm.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
2:55 pm
doomy.
Micheal’s words not mine.
I had no idea until I saw him say it on fox.
The other son is a lib but our local rag prints Micheal’s bs.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
2:57 pm
Thulsa
Don’t give me names. Provide expert information to back up your claims.
Thanks in advance
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
2:58 pm
Bonnie, did you celebrate when your fellow cons tortured and murdered Matthew Shepherd?
“The Reagan-Bush years,” he declared, “have exalted private gain over public obligation, special interests over the common good, wealth and fame over work and family. The 1980s ushered in a Gilded Age of greed and selfishness, of irresponsibility and excess, and of neglect.”
Self before service. GOP before USA.
Why I call them the Anti-Patriot Party.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
2:59 pm
Love me some Reagan,
Simple observation ma’am. Can any reasonable person actually say that they haven’t seen lots of folks wearing Obama t-shirts or the the cult of personality thing is primarily a product of the left? And I never said I wasn’t biased. I’m just stating the obvious- that the cult of personality phenomenon is primarily a product of the left. I don’t think you’ll have too many historians dispute that.
BTW if you’ve run out of silhouetted Obama t-shirts or you are just ashamed to wear them given his abysmal jobs and economic record feel free to put on one a them cool looking t-shirts that romanticizes Che. Even us cons think they look cool. We just wouldn’t wear one is all.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
2:59 pm
Republicans love Reagan for his ability to keep them conned. Bonzo recognized him for what he really was though–second billing on a B-movie.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
3:00 pm
I’ve seen tons of people wearing Obama t-shirts. In my entire life I’ve never seen anyone walking around with a picture of Reagan or any other big time con on their shirt.
They sure can wear those Anti-Obama t-shirts though. Or those anti-Clinton t-shirts, or even those t-shirts dissing Barney Franks and some of the people wearing them doesn’t even LIVE in Frank’s state!!
It seems that repubs are really big on showing hate — love? Not so much.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:02 pm
“Simple observation ma’am”
Who would have guessed? If it fits Thulsa’s definition then that’s what it is, otherwise it isn’t.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:02 pm
recognized him for what he really was though–second billing on a B-movie blah blah blah”
I see the trend of silly personal attacks continues. Further proof that if they can’t attack his economic growth record or his jobs record that they are reduced to 6th grade personal attacks. Still can’t refute the economic growth numbers or the astounding jobs growth numbers can ya? Nope. Ya can’t!
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getalife
July 8th, 2012
3:02 pm
He started the war on drugs that failed.
He cut and ran from Lebanon.
He started deregulating the banks.
I give him a F.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
3:04 pm
Give doomy some credit for being consistent.
Consistently wrong so what he writes, the complete opposite is the truth.
Hot Air
July 8th, 2012
3:06 pm
getalife – Your B.S. is registering high on the B.S. meter today….. Carter caused the problems you are attributing to Reagen concerning the economy. Carter was kicked out by one of the highest majorities in voter history because of the recession he created and Reagen inherited. 20 % mortgage rates, extremely high unemployment, gas lines and what Carter called “malaise” which Carter actually had the gall to blame on the American people. Reagen had to do what he had to do to keep us from going in to a deeper recession. At the end of his 2nd term the economy was strong, unemployment was low and the country was in a boom. Revised history by the socialist left registers high on the B.S. meter.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
3:06 pm
And a third child says he was a great dad. I notice the trend seems to be personal attacks on the man, his character, even his parenthood. I guess if folks can’t attack his record on jobs or economic growth then personal attacks is what they are reduced to. Sad.
Reminds me of that song; where there’s a line that says, “Don’t be sad, two outta three ain’t bad”.
Who sings that Jam?
PS: Doom — the third child was probably the one that was hiding behind the grassy knoll.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:08 pm
“he created and Reagen inherited. 20 % mortgage rates”
Carter controlled the Fed?
Is that an old or new conspiracy?
getalife
July 8th, 2012
3:08 pm
doomy,
Lets discuss w’s legacy.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:08 pm
DDR,
The only hate I see on this page is a whole lotta hate directed at a dead man. Scroll through this page and the previous page and tell me how many hateful personal attacks you see on this dead man. I see plenty. Matter of fact I see plenty more hateful personal attacks on him than I do on Clinton, Obama, or Barney frank. Some of them are just plain silly and juvenile in their hatred.
To be fair I do see hateful comments towards O today and every day. I’ll give you that. But then I saw plenty on W also when he was potus. Just comes with the territory when you are potus.
Oblama
July 8th, 2012
3:08 pm
Hot Air – I think he is not intentionally revising history – may have memory lossfrom being around so many leftists.
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
3:08 pm
Oscar, I’m with you on a no vote on tsplost. Let’s not give the politicians any more money; it only encourages them.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
3:10 pm
Hot Air,
The same ole deflection of blame is bs son.
The buck stops with the President.
Own it con.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
3:11 pm
I’m just stating the obvious- that the cult of personality phenomenon is primarily a product of the left. I don’t think you’ll have too many historians dispute that.
Then why are all these websites selling these “We Love REAGAN!!” type t-shirts? You think only the Dems are buying them?
Yeah, that makes sense!! The DEMS are the ones buying all these Pro-Reagan and Pro Republican T-Shirts!!!
It’s starting to make sense now……
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:12 pm
PS: Doom — the third child was probably the one that was hiding behind the grassy knoll.
Well at least I can count on DDR to inject some good humor into the situation. The eldest I think its Michael is following his dad’s legacy directly. The youngest is rebellious and the opposite. Maureen Reagan was always angry at her dad over the divorce and his remarriage to Nancy from what I’ve read. That’s not unusual though.
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
3:12 pm
More Reagan worship:
Carter caused the problems you are attributing to Reagen concerning the economy.
Silly rubes.
And at least you could spell Saint Ronnie’s last name correctly, Norman Einsteen.
More Reagan worship:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/01/24/us/politics/fivethirtyeight-reagan1/fivethirtyeight-reagan1-blog480.gif
getalife
July 8th, 2012
3:13 pm
Why did reagan raise taxes so many times?
It would get kicked out of the gop cult today.
Bonnie Fwank
July 8th, 2012
3:13 pm
I’m retiring to the life of a lobbyist. Yeah baby. Cashin’ in on the American dream. Keep blaming “W” for everything. Don’t forget to blame “W” for Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae going bust. We need a scapegoat.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:15 pm
“The youngest is rebellious and the opposite. ”
Is he rebellious just because he personally thinks his dad’s policies were not good for the country?
Whether he is right or wrong, does he not have the right to his own opinion without being called “rebellious”?
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:16 pm
DDR,
Oh geez. Come on. You know how cheap it is to have a website. And on the same issue there are tons of websites I’m sure selling O t-shirts and Dem t-shirts. Tons of em selling Elvis and every thing else t-shirts. So what. I’m just saying I’ve seen tons of t-shirts of Obama worn out and about and then in my entire life I’ve never seen someone wearing a t-shirt with a pic of a con on it. Never seen it. I’m sure it happens but I haven’t seen it. And I’m sure that if people buy and wear these t-shirts that they wear them at tea party events and functions or party events and functions. As far as wearing them in public have you ever honestly seen a con wearing a t-shirt with a pic of Ronnie? Be honest Debbie.
G.I. Joe
July 8th, 2012
3:17 pm
JamVet needs to come clean – he’s not Captain America.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:19 pm
Debbie
It is the t-shirts dammit. If Thulsa sees t-shirts that means cult of personality. If people talk about a conservative as if they were one of the disciples that just means he was an alright guy and nothing else
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:19 pm
Love me some Reagan,
The kid can’t make his own way and has written books critical of his dad. Basically just seems to me he’s making money off his dad’s legacy in a negative way- something that his elder brother has painfully made note of. He knows there’s a market for Reagan hate. This very blog proves it.
G.I. Joe
July 8th, 2012
3:19 pm
The youngest Reagan is a prancing dancer.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
3:20 pm
Reagan put us farther in debt and raised taxes and set up a foreign policy that resulted in the creation of the Taliban, etc. A true con’s con. Right up there with tricky Dick Nixon.
B
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Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:20 pm
Thulsa
Your reply would not be considered any answer to my question by any means, but thanks for trying.
Be good
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
3:20 pm
Reagan single handedly built the Hoover Dam with only a toothpick, dental floss, and an alarm clock.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:21 pm
Love me some Reagan,
If you can’t acknowledge that historians generally see the cult of personality phenomenon mainly as a product of the left as in totalitarian states then you are simply beyond help.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
3:21 pm
The only hate I see on this page is a whole lotta hate directed at a dead man.
Doom, telling the truth is not HATE – it’s telling the truth The only “hate” associated to it, is the fact that you “hate” to hear it.
To be fair I do see hateful comments towards O today and every day. I’ll give you that. But then I saw plenty on W also when he was potus. Just comes with the territory when you are potus
Oh? Did you see anything EVER directed at a president like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jMhnKMRTw
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:23 pm
Family or not, if someone writes a book about Obama that put him in a bad light, can it be said that person “hates” the President?
Or would that be conjecture to make that assumption unless the author actually said that he hated Obama?
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:24 pm
“Reagan single handedly built the Hoover Dam with only a toothpick, dental floss, and an alarm clock.”
Kam’s intellect is truly dizzying- that is a well articulated and masterful debate point.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
3:25 pm
Doomy’s losing it.
Melt-down to follow.
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July 8th, 2012
3:26 pm
Since many of you libs. on here are referring to Mitt Romney as “Willard” then I am sure you will have no problem if I add “Hussein” to my list of Obama names.
Fair enough ?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
3:28 pm
Never seen it. I’m sure it happens but I haven’t seen it.
Well, have you ever seen a real life Tyranosaurus? Not the bones, but a real LIVE T-Rex? No? Well that blows your theory right out of the water there………
Be honest Debbie
You first…………………
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
3:28 pm
josef:
I assume you saw this over the weekend?
Headline: “Hitler protected his Jewish former commanding officer”
http://www.france24.com/en/20120707-germany-adolf-hitler-heinrich-himmler-nazis-ss-judge-letter-holocaust
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:28 pm
“If you can’t acknowledge that historians generally see the cult of personality phenomenon mainly as a product of the left…”
Historians who have been known to provide as much opinion as truth, inject bias (right or left) and like Reagan’s son you ridicule many are out to make a buck selling books and doing speeches?
Why wouldn’t you speak of what sociologists, psychiatrists and psychologists say about cult of personality?
You want to throw up one side examples and in your mind think that is all the proof you need to state something as fact, when in reality all you have provided is anecdotal evidence and opinion.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:29 pm
DDR,
OMG. One birther? Is that all you got? I’ll match that with the hate Bush fan club.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/35034364876@N01/
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:30 pm
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How about President of the United States of America?
That will do just fine, thanks
barking frog
July 8th, 2012
3:30 pm
God Doom Debbie Do love
you. just in a negative kinda
way.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
3:31 pm
Numbers — no one cares. Williard IS Romney’s name just as Hussein IS part of Obama’s name.
To paraphrase Shakespeare:
What’s in a name……
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
3:31 pm
Kam, you are one the bright spots on this blog. If we can’t laugh, maybe all we have left is hate.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:33 pm
“You want to throw up one side examples and in your mind think that is all the proof you need to state something as fact, when in reality all you have provided is anecdotal evidence and opinion.”
The cult of personality is endemic to totalitarian societies which by definition are leftist government controlled societies. Again. If your mind cannot understand this rather simple, straightforward point then I simply can’t help you. Are conservative, market oriented, open societies that lean to the right conducive to totalitarian cult of personality rule? Um. Nope. I don’t think your mind can be helped on this issue though.
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
3:34 pm
But why does anyone think building more roads and encouraging sprawl would help Atlanta. It wouldn’t. It would do the opposite. We need to encourage smart growth, not more roads and more traffic.
and we don’t need another penny consumption tax. It’s a regressive tax that hurts those the most that can’t afford it.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:35 pm
Thulsa
Still nothing from experts?
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:35 pm
barking frog,
God Doom Debbie just loves to give me hell. Its all good though.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
3:36 pm
Doom – ONE birther? Seriously? You’re seriously pretending that only ONE BIRTHER is doing all the ranting about Obama’s place of birth? SERIOUSLY?
Doom — I hate to say this but………..
You’ve just torpedoed your credibility in one strike.
Sad. You were doing so well up to that point………
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:39 pm
Still nothing from experts?
Please read what sociologists have to say in the wiki page. B O O M!
Oh noes. Almost all the examples given of cult of personality are of leftist leaders!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
3:39 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman :
Good ! Then there should be no complaints about “Hussein”.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
3:40 pm
Love me some Reagan:
Ever heard of “W” ?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
3:40 pm
We need to encourage smart growth, not more roads and more traffic.
I’m voting AGAINST T-Splost and the main reason is because we don’t need more roads, we need a more sensible approach to our congestion problem.
barking frog
July 8th, 2012
3:43 pm
Debbie Do Right
“we need a more
sensible approach to our
congestion problem.”
……….
Mucinex might work.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:44 pm
“Almost all”?
How does “almost all” constitute a phenomenon of the left?
You do a great back peddle to cover your tracks
Once again, you have provided names, not studies from credible experts to say it is a one sided political issue. And as for left and right. It is basically preschool to equate US left and right politics and how it has changed over the years with totalitarian regimes of any political stripes. Those are false equivalences of those who usually know better, but are willingly stuck in their own dogma and bs.
Keep trying
I could careless, but reading your drivel is humorous.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:46 pm
DDR,
I didn’t watch the video all the way through. It was bo-ring. I just saw the one birther complaining for what seemed like a minute and said “Really? Is this all she got?” Are there 2 or 3 birthers complaining? Oh noes!
Don't Forget
July 8th, 2012
3:46 pm
Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, O
Really? You put Obama in that crowd. What a jerk.
Tundra Dude
July 8th, 2012
3:46 pm
Krugman = no credibility.
Agree.
liberal bias: failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
3:46 pm
Headline: “Violence, political unrest in Iraq fuel fears of civil war”
“A dramatic uptick in violence and political instability in Iraq has raised fears that Baghdad once again is tilting toward civil war.
A half-year after the U.S. military left Iraq, the war-weary country is beset by violence as insurgents take advantage of the power struggles between the country’s ethnic and sectarian factions.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/8/violence-political-unrest-iraq-fuel-fear-civil-war/
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
3:47 pm
Are conservative, market oriented, open societies that lean to the right conducive to totalitarian cult of personality rule? Um. Nope
OF COURSE!! There isn’t ANY correlation between someone’s politics and someone’s proclivity to be in a cult type society, and/or have a Messiah follower mentality.
You haven’t named people like David Koresh, or the followers of Warren Geff or the people in that bank in Stockholm; or even the followers of Neo Nazis!
You always do that Doom – you always throw up one side of a square box and try to push all your misguided theories inside of it!
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:47 pm
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I hear of W and I called him President of the United States.
To be so blind as to say or think well I heard numerous people call W names, so I might or I will do the same for Obama is childish. Don’t you think?
You want the bar raised, see how well you can raise it yourself and set an example.
Try that for a change. Wont hurt you at all, unless you just want to be as immature as those who called W names
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
3:48 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman:
“I’m voting AGAINST T-Splost and the main reason is because we don’t need more roads, we need a more sensible approach to our congestion problem.”
Jay is NOT going to be happy with you.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
3:49 pm
Love me some Reagan :
It’s called “satire”. Ever look at a Luckovich cartoon?
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:50 pm
“Jay is NOT going to be happy with you”
Nor are the so-called conservative politicians that I bet you voted for to run this state. So what is your point, exactly?
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:51 pm
Love me some Reagan,
Do you have a problem counting or understanding history? Look at the overwhelming majority of cult of personality figures. They are for the most part on the left- Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Tito and other Eastern European communist leaders, Saddam, the leftist Peron in Argentina. the Iranian mullahs who run a left of center govt, and on and on and on. What is it that you can’t grasp about this? Are you just stupid? Seriously? How can you not look at history and count and not understand this?
getalife
July 8th, 2012
3:52 pm
Where are kyle’s wingnuts now that his blog is shut down?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
3:52 pm
P.S. to: Love me some Reagan (that should be “Former President of the United States Reagan”)
Have you ever protected a president (who you could not stand politically or morally) with your life?
Tundra Dude
July 8th, 2012
3:52 pm
Lets discuss w’s legacy.
all you need to know:
Six years ago, “it was standard practice not to pay for things,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah. “We were concerned about it, because it certainly added to the deficit, no question.”
————————————–
The Economic Consequences of Mr. Bush
by Joseph E. Stiglitz
Vanity Fair December 2007
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:53 pm
“Ever look at a Luckovich cartoon?”
Never. Is his site accessible from this site? I know there are right and left leaning cartoonists who lampoon politicians all the time. Are you good with all of them or just the one’s that are in your ideological camp?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
frog – BOOO!!! (funny though)
numbers: Good ! Then there should be no complaints about “Hussein”.
None from me. Trivial matter such as focusing on someone’s REAL NAME doesn’t bother me.
Doom – (Buzzer sounding in the background) You’ve already lost that fight. That “One Birther” comment proved your bias already. Sorry.
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July 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
Love me some Reagan (Former President of the United States Reagan):
Is your name DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman ?
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:55 pm
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Makes no difference. You asked a question of bloggers if it was ok to call Obama by his middle name because some people refer to Mitt as Willard. I said call him President.
So if you have protected the President. Good for you and thanks for your service. With that said it has absolutely nothing to do with your post about you calling Obama, Hussein.
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
3:55 pm
Mucinex might work.
_______
I use Robitussinj for nasal congestion. I vote no for road congestion.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:56 pm
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What?
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
3:56 pm
If we begin with Ronald Reagan, we see the man who has been proclaimed the conservative icon of American politics. This is the man whose charisma was so great, his personality so strong, that he was able to bring together a broad based constituency of diverse political minds.
Reagan was, and continues to be, all things to all people. He was lauded as the father of modern conservatism, although his policies were more pragmatic than they were conservative. He cut taxes once, but continuously raised taxes after that.
He was not a lover of the Evangelical movement although that movement idolized him. He was a patrician actor who connected with working class democrats. Reagan’s legacy was to teach the political elite that the cult of personality was much more important than the ideas that the politician espoused. We learned that politics were flexible, but personality had to be the draw.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
3:56 pm
Love me some Reagan (Former President of the United States Reagan):
Sure you can see Luckovich ………….. just go to the AJC home page and look for him. He is a far left leaning cartoonist. He gets “awards” for his satire ……….. so guess what? You’re going to have to put up with my written satire …………. or just don’t read my posts.
Easy isn’t it ?
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:57 pm
“You haven’t named people like David Koresh, or the followers of Warren Geff or the people in that bank in Stockholm; or even the followers of Neo Nazis!”
DDR,
The discussion is about govts not cult religious leaders. I’m simply trying to tell this man that the cult of personality phenom is far more prevalent on the left. All you have to do is simply look at history to see this. And this man can’t grasp such as simple, straight forward fact of life. Its bizarre. Instead of acknowledging the countless examples of cult of personality leftist leaders he’s talking some jibberish about psychologists, psychiatrists, etc. I don’t think I could open his mind with a crowbar.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:57 pm
“You’re going to have to put up with my written satire …………. or just don’t read my posts.”
Likewise.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
3:58 pm
Love me some Reagan (Former President of the United States Reagan) @ 3:56
What yourself !
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:58 pm
“Easy isn’t it ?”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
3:58 pm
Love me some Reagan (Former President of the United States Reagan) @ 3:57:
Deal.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
3:59 pm
His name is President Obama for four more years.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
3:59 pm
Scout,
I tried to open “love me some Reagan’s” mind with a crowbar. Didn’t work. I’ll hand it over to you but something tells me it won’t work for you either.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
3:59 pm
P.S.
And show some respect for your own standards.
It’s “Former President of the United States Reagan”.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
3:59 pm
“I don’t think I could open his mind with a crowbar.”
Mr Close Mind is calling out others
You too funny
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
3:59 pm
Thulsa:
………………………….
Probably a teenager.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
4:04 pm
scout is satire?
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:06 pm
Don’t Forget,
No need for name calling. I don’t put O in that crowd with the others. Obviously we don’t have a totalitarian govt.
My point is that there seems to be some sort of man worship with the guy that is just sort of creepy with all the hero worship and the t-shirts and media comments. Come on man. When the newsweek editor says he is “sorta like a god looking down on us all” that shoulda been your first clue. Then there is Terry Moran of ABC news saying the guy “stepped down” into the office of the presidency. Really Terry? The man belittled himself and stepped down into the office? And then Chris matthews with the tingle up his leg when O speaks. And on and on. And all the T-shirts of the man. Its just plain creepy and reminds me of the cult of personality thing which as I explained to one poster is far more endemic to the left just going by history.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
4:07 pm
Thulsa:
Creepy? I say “Icky” !
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
4:08 pm
Kam, you are one the bright spots on this blog.
Why thank you G Mare, that is very gracious of you.
My bright spot came this afternoon when I harvested my first ripe tomato.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:09 pm
Me love some reagan,
And I see you remain unencumbered by mere facts such as how many cult of personality figures have come from the left. Its cool though. I expect as little from you.
carlosgvv
July 8th, 2012
4:10 pm
Doom – 3:51
The goal of fundamentalist Christians now in charge of the Republican Party is a country filled with like-minded politicians running America on strict Christian rules. Idolizing Regan and building a “cult of personality” is just one the the many ways they hope to create this. Outlawing abortion, replacing evolution with creationism in schools and unleashing brutal pundit attacks on liberal values is also part of the equasion.
If you and others were not so blinded with your hate of Obama and obsession with getting a whiter White House, you might be able to see this.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:13 pm
Scout,
I’m tellin ya. The man can do no wrong to his worshipers. It reminds me of this.
http://thesilentmajority.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/howard-sternlisten-and-weep-man-on-the-street-in-harlem/
getalife
July 8th, 2012
4:13 pm
Get the President is not a plan cons.
It is a losing strategy and murdoch tried to tell you that fact.
Brosephus™
July 8th, 2012
4:15 pm
My point is that there seems to be some sort of man worship with the guy that is just sort of creepy with all the hero worship and the t-shirts and media comments.
Just to inject a point here, what’s the difference between some sort of man worship of Obama vs the same sort of man worship of Reagan. You recite his 16 millions job created stat as though it’s a biblical verse. I’ll commend you for correcting yourself though, as you previously used 21 million which was debunked.
That said, that stuff goes on with both sides of the political aisle. One doesn’t need to wear a t-shirt to belong to a “cult”. One can recite rhetoric. One can show bumperstickers, or there’s other countless things that happen. Pretending that it’s a one-sided affair is, to put it mildly, grossly intellectually dishonest.
That’s all for me on this. I’ll leave y’all to Left/Right pissing contest 7/8/12….
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:16 pm
“If you and others were not so blinded with your hate of Obama and obsession with getting a whiter White House, you might be able to see this.”
Oh noes! Say it aint so. A liberal says that if you disagree with Obama its because of- drumroll please………….aaaaaaah yeah. Hell yeah……..Here we go……….You knows its coming………anticipation building………….carlosgvv plays it well……….the dreaded…………..
R
A
C
E
C
A
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Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
predictable. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
getalife
July 8th, 2012
4:17 pm
Nobody is worshiping a pol cons.
If that is all you got, we should start talking about something other than politics.
Don't Forget
July 8th, 2012
4:17 pm
Thulsa, Stalin killed 30-40 million, Mao 50-60 million Pol Pot about 2 million. To say these guys were a personality cult is absurd. And to put Obama in that group is beyond absurd by ANY measure.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
4:22 pm
Doom – first off you named PEOPLE not governments. Don’t try to play ‘I forgot what I just wrote” with me, it won’t work.
Here’s some of the PEOPLE you named AND had the nerve to call “leftist”:
Mao, Stalin — Both communists
Pol Pot, Also a communist but he has an eerily close association to some tenets of the republican party. (From Wiki – Former government officials, along with anyone with an education, were singled out in the purges. A set of new prisons was also constructed in Khmer Rouge run areas)
Tito — Puente?
and other Eastern European communist leaders,: Again you talk of PEOPLE and not GOVERNMENTS as you ascertained previously.
Saddam, Now THAT’s funny!! Saddam was a dictator!!
the leftist Peron in Argentina. His was a military dictatorship who advocated that the little man, who was usually the ones called to defend the republic, should have as equal of a chance as the “highborn”. Being a republican, I know that probably grates you immensely! Imagine someone saying that they are just as good as the “job making betters” of society!!!
the Iranian mullahs who run a left of center govt, : A Mullah is generally used to refer to a Muslim man, educated in Islamic theology and sacred law . This type of person should also appeal to you and the republican party. This person would advocate a THEOLOGICAL type of government – far from “leftist”.
What is it that you can’t grasp about this? Are you just stupid? Seriously? How can you not look at history and count and not understand this?
No offense, but I’m sure some people on the blog are probably asking the same question about you. Sorry.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:23 pm
“I’ll commend you for correcting yourself though, as you previously used 21 million which was debunked.”
Nope. Let me explain the discrepancy. Reagan created 16.1 million new jobs net which includes jobs since the day he walked into office and includes the jobs lost in the 81-82 recession. Now from the bottom of the recession he created 21 million new jobs. But the overall number is 16 since we are talking about from the day he walked into office.
Now O backers like to say he created 4 million jobs so far. If you are talking about from the bottom of the recession then you would be correct. But if you are talking about from the day he walked into office then I believe he is actually still net negative by a couple hundred thousand jobs. So if you want to compare apples with apples and talk about from the bottoming out of the recession then the score is 21 million to 4 million. If you want to talk about from the day they walked into office then the score is 16.1 million to something like -100 or 200 thousand whatever the number is. I could be wrong on that but perhaps someone can look it up.
And lets keep in mind that the W recession officially ended 6 months into O’s reign and that job losses had bottomed out the month he came in. In the case of Reagan the 81-82 Fed induced recession lasted into I think November of his 2nd year so he had about 23 months worth of recession to deal with as opposed to 6 for O.
Just the facts kids. Just the facts.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:26 pm
DDR,
Those are all left of center or socialist govts that I spoke of. Every one of them. Even though mullahs run a govt that is socialistic in nature with govt control over things such as oil. And please show me where a communist is not also a leftist? Now you’re drifting into far left kook land.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
4:27 pm
Saddam Hussein was loved by the Reagan administration. As was Osama bin Laden.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
4:28 pm
The gop lost 9 million jobs.
Our President recovered 5 million jobs.
Another term will recover the rest of the jobs.
Just the facts.
Boom.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
4:34 pm
Dont forget Pinochet
He was such a nice guy
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
4:34 pm
getalife, crazy how the serial banished Dave R and his band of seniorile delinquents blew the place to Kingdom Come, huh?
Kyle, probably rues the day he ever started that forum…
…the Reagan administration:
corruption becoming passé (epitomized by the Iran-Contra Affair)
“greed is good” rhetoric permeating social consciousness
relentless attempts to usurp New Deal welfare institutions for the poor
deregulation of corporations (who need’s f&cking forests and clean water?)
tax-slashing for the rich
the War on Drugs and subsequent racial profiling/disproportionate incarceration of minorities/epidemic of drugs
dismantling of labor unions (Air Traffic Control Strike)
destruction of the middle-class and the widening of the wealth gap
enabling the high-risk investment w/ low accountability that ultimately resulted in our current economic downturn.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:37 pm
Ya’ll still mad over the abysmal 2 jobs reports over the last 2 months aintcha?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
4:37 pm
Reagan was so virile that women can get pregnant merely by watching one of his movies.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
4:39 pm
But Pinochet wasn’t a “lefty” so that made him an alright guy, right Thulsa?
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
4:40 pm
“Ya’ll still mad over the abysmal 2 jobs reports over the last 2 months aintcha?”
Come see me on election day.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:41 pm
Don’t Forget,
Enough with the outrage. Jeez do you need a fainting couch. I already said once I do not mean to include O in that group- especially in light of the mass killings. How many times do I need to tell you that? Get over it. My point which i backed up with examples is that creepy cult of personality thing that some libs kinda worship the man and think he can do no wrong. Creepy. Icky too. Now get over the Stalin and Mao thing already and quit harping on it. I already said once that it doesn’t apply. This is the 2nd time.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
4:41 pm
How about a national job project to get off the oil that will run out like Germany?
How about a national job project to prepare for extreme weather?
How about a national job project to create 10 million jobs.
reagan is dead.
Lets focus on the future and not the past.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
4:42 pm
Those are all left of center or socialist govts that I spoke of. Every one of them. Even though mullahs run a govt that is socialistic in nature with govt control over things such as oil. And please show me where a communist is not also a leftist? Now you’re drifting into far left kook land
First: You should look up the definition of Communism and Socialism and then try to figure out the difference.
Secondly you highlighted A military dictatorship, A Theocracy, Two Totalitarian Societies AND a society which systemically “purged” people who disagreed with them by murdering them. Yes, you’re right – they SCREAM “left leaning.”
Look Doom, if you’re not even going to TRY to give thoughtful, well researched debate, then what’s the point? Why not just get out your crayons and coloring book and kill a couple of hours doing that? I love to debate with you, but if you’re just trying to push out the oral equivalent of bullsh###t and call it “truth” , then why bother?
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:45 pm
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
4:40 pm
“Ya’ll still mad over the abysmal 2 jobs reports over the last 2 months aintcha?”
Come see me on election day.
So you admit that you are in favor of continously crappy jobs reports. That’s all on you and anyone else foolish enough to reelect an obvious failure. Oh and btw. Just a tidbit to tease you.
“For instance, in 1984, Ronald Reagan’s administration created an average of about 306,000 jobs per month from May through October. However, that is equivalent to 426,000 in today’s terms because the population is now larger.”
So where are those 426,000 jobs we should be getting today as an equivalent? Where dey at???
W
H
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R
E
R
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http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/04/has-obamas-magic-jobs-number-changed/
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:46 pm
Where! oops!
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:48 pm
me loves some Reagan.
I’ve never seen Pinochet widely acknowledged as a cult of personality figure. And of course he was on the right. Your sense of history is appalling sir. Go back to school.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
4:50 pm
Jam,
dave is one of the nastiest cons. Dish it out but can’t take it.
I can make them go off with a couple of posts.
Complete melt downs like doomy and fred last night.
There is no honest debate with the cons.
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
4:51 pm
Doom
Actually outside of Fed government jobs and indirect jobs that parlay off of the government, no President creates jobs.
Explain to us all how Romney is going to get job growth going? Will his mere presence in the White House negate the world economy? Will it drop the debt of so many Americans that no longer have the ability to buy and buy, which is the catalyst for job growth? (consumer demand)
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
4:53 pm
There is no honest debate with the cons.
That’s because their “cultist personalities” can not allow them to hear, read, or comprehend anything that threatens their Fox News generated, Bortz bellowing, LimpBalls bleating, revamping of the word “truth”.
If it’s not on Fox, Bortz or LimpBalls’ shows, then it’s not TRUE.
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:53 pm
I’ll be back later. Maybe someone can help out by then and show me where Obama’s job creation numbers compare favorable to Reagan’s using apples to apples comparisons. Or maybe not. After all when I think of Obama’s job growth record I think of what a childhood friend’s mamma used to say about him trying to make positive about his crappy report card- you can’t shine shyte.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
4:56 pm
At least the gop passed a billion for transportation so the workers would not get laid off.
That is the best the gop can do for our recovery.
They deserve to lose.
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
4:57 pm
I have a vision. On the day that Ronald Reagan’s remains are transported from the U.S. Capitol to the National Cathedral for the funeral services, the hearse will pass 800 black crosses.
Each cross will represent one of the men, women and children who were killed by the Salvadoran military in the village of El Mozote in December 1981. Each would be a reminder that the dead man now celebrated in the media as a lover of freedom and democracy oversaw a foreign policy that empowered and enabled murderous brutes and thugs in the name of anti-Sovietism. Many innocents in other lands paid dearly for Reagan’s crusade.
Throughout his presidency, Reagan made nice with dictators—no matter how nefarious—as long as they parroted his opposition to communism. As soon as he entered the White House, his administration tried to normalize relations with Augusto Pinochet, the dictator of Chile, who was responsible for a bloody coup that overthrew a democratically elected (but socialist) government.
The Reaganites also cozied up to the fascistic and anti-Semitic junta of Argentina, which tortured, slaughtered and disappeared its political opponents.
And don’t forget Reagan’s attempt to woo Saddam Hussein, even after it was known that Hussein had used chemical weapons. (Reagan assigned this task to Donald Rumsfeld.)
Reagan may have pushed for democracy and human rights in the Soviet bloc, but he cared little for these values elsewhere. He dramatically urged the destruction of the Berlin Wall and supported the Solidarity movement in Poland. But he sent money and assistance to regimes that repressed and murdered their people. While visiting Ferdinand Marcos, the Filipino dictator, Reagan’s vice president, George H.W. Bush, toasted Marcos’ “adherence to democratic principles.”
People lost their freedom or died because Reagan and his lieutenants could not see beyond their ideological blinders and cut deals with miscreants who shared their anti-Moscow mantra. Not only did Reagan embolden torturers and murders, but the CIA—following his order to support the contra rebels in Nicaragua (who were trying to oust the socialist Sandinistas)—worked with suspected drug traffickers. Who said so? Not conspiracy-theory nuts, but the inspector general of the CIA. Years after the contra war, the agency’s IG produced two reports that conceded the CIA had enlisted the assistance of alleged drug runners. At the same time Nancy Reagan was preaching “Just Say No” to drugs.
As I noted in this column a few months ago—when there was a media hullabaloo over a schlocky biopic of Reagan—Reagan was AWOL on one of the important battles for freedom and democracy in the 1980s: South Africa. He defended the racist apartheid government there and claimed—as wrongly as could be—that South Africa had “eliminated the segregation that we once had in our own country.” And when Republicans and Democrats joined together in Congress to impose economic sanctions on the government of South Africa, Reagan vetoed the measure. In response to that veto, Archbishop Desmond Tutu, a leader of the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa, said, “Apartheid will be dismantled, and its victims will remember those who helped to destroy this evil system. And President Reagan will be judged harshly by history.”
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/reagans_bloody_legacy.php
Thulsa Doom
July 8th, 2012
4:58 pm
Ya’ll get started on that homework assignment I gave you. And while you’re at it please present an economics report on why the last 2 jobs reports numbers having been so embarrassing under this president. And this time we won’t accept excuses in the form of its W’s fault, ATMs, the Arab Spring, tsunamis, the Japanese earthquake, global warming, and whatever other pitiful excuses this failure of a president comes up with. I’ll then use your report to compare it to Reagan’s mind blowing job growth and economic growth numbers. Should be lotsa fun. Lotsa fun indeed. Ciao!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
4:58 pm
Declaring victory while backing out the door.
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
predictable. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
5:02 pm
Thulsa Doom
Of course we can debate trade agreements, jobs being shipped overseas (white and blue collar), technology, competition that didn’t exists 30 yrs ago as it does today, but in the end it is about consumer demand.
The dirty little secret that politicians of all stripes do not wish to talk about. A good portion of the economy in the last 30 yrs was driven by lowering of credit standards for credit cards, cars, housing and such. People have taken on too much credit and are broke. Is that the majority? No, however it is a significant number that we are now stagnated.
Take out the easing of credit standards and the ensuing bubbles, I bet we would have been looking at a much higher average unemployment rate over the last 30 yrs. And it wouldn’t have mattered who was in the White House or controlled Congress.
This notion that if we just give corporations another tax cut or loop hole, throw some regulations out of the window and all of a sudden consumer demand rows back is nothing less than a pipe dream.
Don’t place any money on Romeny, however if hell freezes over and he does win, many on the right will not be pleased and will be making the same excuses as some Obama supporters make today.
President gets too much credit and too much blame. With that said, count on this economy being stagnant for a few years outside of some unforeseeable bubble. And we know what the long terms impact is for bubbles.
Now that is brass tax, real issues discussion information.
What you got?
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
5:06 pm
Reagan sent Rumsfeld to Saddam with instructions to give Saddam whatever he wanted. Rumsfeld and Saddam shook on it and that pleased Reagan.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
5:06 pm
What you got?
Reaganphilia immediately leaps to mind….
Love me some Reagan
July 8th, 2012
5:11 pm
Kamchak
Did I miss something? Seemed Thulsa Doom was making a big deal about Obama as he praised and idolized everything Reagan.
Guess he couldn’t bring himself to realize that he was really talking about himself, as much as anyone else.
Oh well. It was humorous watching him tap dance
getalife
July 8th, 2012
5:12 pm
So what if a green energy bubble pops.
We will have an alternative to oil and we are falling behind.
We need a big job project like building a nuke or going to the moon.
And we don’t need to outsource American jobs for record profits.
At least we are talking about the future and not a bad president.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
5:12 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHUI9puTlZU
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
5:14 pm
Love me some Reagan
In the future, just scroll on by Doom else you’ll be chasing the goalposts.
Just my $0.02
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
5:15 pm
Jam – Who wrote a song whose lines say:
Don’t be sad, two outta three ain’t bad?
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
5:24 pm
DDR, it was Meat Loaf who sang it. Jim Steinman wrote it.
And a damn fine song from a spectacular (IMHO) Todd Rundgren produced album…
Rundgren acknowledges that Steinman was highly influenced by the “rural suburban teenage angst” of Bruce Springsteen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGT1AcMRV9w
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
5:43 pm
And a damn fine song from a spectacular (IMHO) Todd Rundgren produced album…
Featuring the musical talents of E Street Band members “Mighty” Max Weinberg on drums and “Professor” Roy Bittan on keyboards.
Kinda cheesy album but platinum 14 times over.
Saw Meatloaf preform at The Fox while touring to promote Bat Out of Hell.
Damn fine show.
carlosgvv
July 8th, 2012
5:44 pm
Why is it so hard for so many here to realize that job creation is NOT a main responsibility for any US President.
As for that old “it’s all his regulations that are hurting business” excuse, any and all regulations have to be approved by Congress, and the House is Tea Party Republican.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
5:49 pm
RIP Ernest Borgnine.
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
5:51 pm
Yep Kam, total cheese. But damn if I didn’t love it all!
Also on it were the three other members of the band Utopia, Edgar Winter and the lovely songbird Ellen Foley.
And….. the voice of the New York Yankees, Phil “Scooter” Rizzuto!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmPMMitJDYg&feature=relmfu
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
5:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRB2COUFiY4
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
6:00 pm
DDR, it was Meat Loaf who sang it. Jim Steinman wrote it.
Wow!! MEATLOAF sang something like that!?! When I think of Meatloaf I think of that I’d do anything for love, song!! Thanks Jam!I knew you’d know.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 8th, 2012
6:01 pm
You guys have a great Sunday – see you later!
Thomas
July 8th, 2012
6:04 pm
Love me some Reagan-
Was about to do the pouncing cheetah but your 5:02 is actually spot on- take the night off and have a cold one on the bloggers- we are going to sit for a while so mights as well chill.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
6:05 pm
Actually, job creation is the fed’s responsibility but they tossed the kitchen sink at the w collapse and all that is left is more qualitative easing.
The gop want this to be a referendum against our President but it should be one on congress and the collapse.
congress getting a free ride has to stop.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
6:21 pm
“Squirrel!” – GOP
getalife
July 8th, 2012
6:58 pm
willard is” Obamacare’s daddy”.
Go nuclear dems.
Obamacare Is Not A Tax (According to Libs)
July 8th, 2012
7:02 pm
Some random headlines over the weekend…
“Speaking in Sandusky, Ohio on July 5, President Barack Obama used the first-person pronouns “I” and “me” a combined 117 times in a speech that lasted about 25 minutes and 32 seconds.”
And people wonder why Obama is called a narcissist. Laughable. But hey, that’s the same guy who says that 80,000 jobs created every month and 8.2% unemployment is a “good start”…three and a half years after an $850 billion stimulus bill was passed that was to keep unemployment from going above 8% and create millions of shovel ready and green energy jobs.
“US factory output at three-year low”
I guess that’s another “good start.”
“In 2010, influenced by the Tea Party and its focus on fiscal issues, 17 states elected Republican governors. And, according to an Examiner.com analysis, every one of those states saw a drop in their unemployment rates since January of 2011. Furthermore, the average drop in the unemployment rate in these states was 1.35%, compared to the national decline of .9%, which means, according to the analysis, that the job market in these Republican states is improving 50% faster than the national rate.”
Oh don’t worry. Democrat-run Brokeback California is pushing forward with a multi-billion high speed rail project to nowhere that will create plenty of union jobs. Queue up the Canary In A Coal Mine song from the Police…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
7:03 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8E8trKZGbE
getalife
July 8th, 2012
7:17 pm
I hope Jack Abrahmoff 60 minute interview will start the ball rolling to end k street.
Recon 0311 2533
July 8th, 2012
7:31 pm
Been away to the beach and it was great as the family enjoyed themselves each day. I see some of the blog faithful are picking up this latest pathetic Obama line that the economy is really taking steps in the right direction in spite of the latest dismal reports and the chorus says duh…yes Mr. President the economy, duh is really good, lets spend more taxpayer money, duh and we’ll do even better. Some of you are either morons or you’re otherwise intelligent individuals whose heads are ideologically stuck up your azzes.
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
7:36 pm
Gee, welcome back, Recon.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
7:41 pm
President Barack Obama used the first-person pronouns “I” and “me” a combined 117…
I had to check and sure enough — gooey drudgey goodness
Not so “random” after all.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
7:47 pm
The cons won’t post this drudgey headline but I will :
“SWING STATES BATTLE ZONE: OBAMA 47% ROMNEY 45%” drudgey.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
7:50 pm
del,
Losing 9 million jobs vs steady job growth is a step in the right direction.
Man up and admit this fact if you have the guts.
I know you don’t.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
7:55 pm
After they finish that train, I will be on it.
Good for California.
After our President approves the pipeline, both projects will help job numbers while gop guvs layoff workers.
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
7:59 pm
Getalife, please talk to me about the pipeline. I’m of a very mixed, confused mind about it. No, not being snarky. Thanks.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
8:00 pm
I heard a rumor that Republicans campaigned in 2010 on their ability to create jobs. How’s that workin’ out.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
8:04 pm
G Mare,
The pipeline was not approved over environmental reasons so they had to change the path .
The new design should be ready to go and will be approved.
We are drilling more than ever and even exporting oil and natural gas.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
8:06 pm
A U.S. Airways flight at Reagan National Airport bound for Charleston, S.C. was delayed on Friday after it got stuck in a soft spot on the tarmac, apparently caused by extremely high temperatures, the The Washington Post reports.
“It’s summer!” – George Will
Recon 0311 2533
July 8th, 2012
8:07 pm
getalife, says, duh…Losing 9 million jobs vs steady job growth is a step in the right direction.
Yeah right, steady unemployment over 8% and you say “guts”? I say it’s gutless to accept that as acceptable and even more so when you consider the real unemployment is at 15%. You’re going to vote to give this sorry administration a second term? Gutless!!!
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
8:09 pm
“Vote Republican for jobs!” – 2010 GOP Campaign
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 8th, 2012
8:10 pm
Oh vey…. looks like someone did not relax on their vacation. Still the same old tired and repeated lies.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
8:12 pm
Tax,
I guess your question was too tough for del or other cons to answer so I will.
The gop lied like they always do and no American should believe a word they say.
Jm
July 8th, 2012
8:13 pm
Getalife
“more qualitative easing.”
Um. Get a clue.
It’s quantitative easing.
Jm
July 8th, 2012
8:14 pm
“The gop lied”
The monolithic GOP…….. Eyeroll
getalife
July 8th, 2012
8:15 pm
del,
Going back to lose more than 9 million jobs is totally unacceptable.
barking frog
July 8th, 2012
8:15 pm
Keep up
little lawyer boy..
Remember Nothing is Free?
wonder what happened to
him?
getalife
July 8th, 2012
8:17 pm
jm,
Yes, I misspelled.
So?
getalife
July 8th, 2012
8:18 pm
del,
Lets compare this administration to the last gop administration.
Are you man enough?
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
8:21 pm
July 6, 2012 (GURNEE, Ill.) (WLS) — Repairs are needed Friday night where triple-digit heat buckled another Chicago-area roadway.
The buckled stretch of pavement is along Grand Avenue in far north suburban Gurnee. Police closed the left lane.
The Illinois Department of Transportation says there were several other roadways around the state with similar problems Friday.
IDOT says there have been about 30 incidents of pavement failing due to heat in the past two weeks.
“It’s summer!” – George Will
Jm
July 8th, 2012
8:22 pm
Getalife
Not a spelling mistake
Shows lack of understanding of the policy / issue
That’s all
Gotta go
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
8:23 pm
“Dear George Will, we are in the midst of global cooling. Please try to keep the story straight. Thanks.” – James Inhofe.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 8th, 2012
8:24 pm
NIF has returned so many times under different noms….GLL, etc. Jay kicked him out again a few days back if you really want to see some entertainment….. and apparently what was caught by the autosnoot was hilarious.
But then I am sure you can always go visit Kyle’s land of misfits….. oh wait. 
getalife
July 8th, 2012
8:24 pm
jm,
Drive by lie.
You better run.
Recon 0311 2533
July 8th, 2012
8:25 pm
getalife@8:12, DUH…the gop lied like they always do and no American should believe a word they say.
Looks like someone is addicted to the DNC propaganda.
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
8:27 pm
Getalife, thanks. But, but, but, I was under the impression that most of the oil going thru the pipeline would be sold on the world market, so would not benefit us here. Not the case? Again, not being snarky. I sincerely want to understand. And I’ve been around long enough to know that there are often more than two sides to most arguments. If you don’t want to discuss it here, please direct me to some websites. Again, I thank you.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
8:29 pm
What is a “gotta”?
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
8:30 pm
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
8:27 pm
_
Just got back from dinner.
You are right. The pipeline will not affect or reduce the price of oil to us. The price is set by world markets. Much of the oil will be exported. There is just no way to isolate the oil and keep the price at a below market level.
Doggone/GA
July 8th, 2012
8:33 pm
“We are drilling more than ever and even exporting oil and natural gas”
Not oil. Gasoline. We’re still a net importer of oil
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
8:33 pm
It’s summer!” – George Will
_______
I saw that too. Totally out of left field. And he played first base in college.
Recon 0311 2533
July 8th, 2012
8:34 pm
getalife, certainly…under the previous administration gasoline prices averaged well under $3.00 dollars per gallon and unemployment was around 5%. Additionally, we had a robust military that was feared by our enemies and our potential enemies. None of that is true today.
barking frog
July 8th, 2012
8:34 pm
Keep
I remember Jay’s ban but
I wasn’t aware it was NIF.
He always called you little
lawyer boy. I sometimes
check Kyle’s blog but not
very often and not very
long.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
8:40 pm
G Mare,
Yes, the oil hits the world market and will create jobs.
del,
w lost 9 million jobs and two occupations to explode our deficit and country. He can’t even show his face in public like cheney.
You lose.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
8:45 pm
“It’s producing more crude oil and, for the first time in decades, has become a net exporter of petroleum products such as jet fuel, heating oil and gasoline.” USA Today.
Recon 0311 2533
July 8th, 2012
8:45 pm
“You lose.”
Getalife, only in your dreams but you can have the last word. I’m out
Soothsayer
July 8th, 2012
8:45 pm
Well, since around 1980 or so, we have given corporations and capital a “free rein” in this country. The correct term is economic “liberalism.” Not to be confused with political liberalism.
Economic liberalism is more correctly defined by the term “laissez-faire” economics. What this basically means if that corporations and capital are free to do whatever they please and the results be damned.
Since economic liberalism is nothing new, this latest reincarnation of economic liberalism is referred to as “neo-liberalism” or “new” liberalism.
Under neoliberalism capital is free to pursue opportunity anywhere in the World where it can seek the highest returns on investment, i.e., factories in China.
There is nothing illegal or even immoral in this pursuit. However, the real question is, is this the best course of action for the health of the U.S. economy?
Unfortunately, this question is relegated to the background. Since our government is controlled by and, for all intents and purposes, owned outright by corporations and capital, this question is a moot point.
Corporations can make more money utilizing labor at $200 a month than labor at $3,000 a month.
Unfortunately, and according to the law of unintended consequences, this strategy has resulted in Worldwide destruction of aggregate demand.
Even though corporations and capital can produce at lower costs using cheap, off-shore labor, the result is a zero-sum game of too many goods chasing too few buyers, i.e., lack of demand.
So, what we have is a garden where the gardener trusts that the weeds will not choke out the “good crop.” And, thus, does not bother to weed.
In effect, we are “stuck” in a situation where corporations and capital, through shortsightedness, acting unfettered in its own best interest, is, in fact, its own worst enemy.
I fear that only a total collapse in, yes, the World economy, will bring about any change in the current model.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 8th, 2012
8:45 pm
frog, he’s called me a lot of things and demanded I meet him in a parking lot, too….. The internet testosterone is “strong” in that chest thumper.
I am sure he’ll be back again with a new nom…….
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
8:45 pm
The Bushies damn near destroyed this country. Epic failures, across the board.
Now the fake conservatives get no more chances.
Own it, conned…
getalife
July 8th, 2012
8:46 pm
del,
I just post the truth.
Try it del.
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
8:53 pm
I wonder what the average is because that would tell me so much.
barking frog
July 8th, 2012
8:57 pm
Taxpayer
i read somewhere the historical moving
average is 2.50 per gallon.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
8:58 pm
Swampy Nowhere man.
Too funny.
Used to, he could go weeks or even months before melting down.
Now he melts down on the first post.
Goes back to what I said earlier, since 2009 rw rhetoric has become more and more desperate. By the time of the election?
I can only imagine….
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
9:00 pm
TaxPayer
If you look at the chart, the overall average whould be under $3.00. But if you look at it until 2000 and then since 2000. You get two very different averages. And a upward price trend since 2000 with one break in the trean.
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
9:03 pm
Thanks to Oscar & Getalife. I AM kinda old, but I do try to keep up.
Have my absentee ballot, so will vote NO on tsplost. Sorry, Jm. It seems you have more trust in the politicians running our state than I.
Must also say: I so appreciate responses to my posts & questions. Due to health & dead car, I don’t get out as much as I would like.
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
9:05 pm
G Mare
___
My car is in great shape, but most of my get up and gone has got up and gone. I don’t get out as much, but don’t seem to mind.
barking frog
July 8th, 2012
9:07 pm
Taxpayer
http://www.inflationdata.com/inflation/inflation_rate/Gasoline_Inflation.asp
2.49 adjusted for inflation.
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
July 8th, 2012
9:10 pm
Kofi Annan calls America a sponsor of terrorism
Ok
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
9:11 pm
Oscar,
I wonder if the later upward price trends correspond with Wall Street’s foray into the commodity storage business. They really went wild with their efforts to store large quantities of oil and aluminum, for example.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
9:11 pm
G Mare,
What is wrong with your car? Can it be repaired?
TaxPayer
July 8th, 2012
9:17 pm
If only the Reagan administration had replaced the silver certificate with a crude certificate.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
9:21 pm
The price of gas is determined by the state of the economy.
The game is rigged.
My doctors told me I would not make it back in 2004.
What do they know?
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
9:21 pm
So who is NIF?
Wow, Sooth, your 8:45 surprised me. Will now take you off my ignore list.
Just kidding; I have always at least skimmed your posts. So now will read them more carefully. I am trying to be more openminded to views obviously different from my own. Perhaps that is one of the benefits of growing older.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 8th, 2012
9:23 pm
Have my absentee ballot, so will vote NO on tsplost. Sorry, Jm. It seems you have more trust in the politicians running our state than I.
Well, I’m voting No because we don’t need Tsplost. Just look around you. When people ain’t driving to and from work the traffic moves fine. So it seems to me we need to make more people work from home to get rid of the work traffic. Besides, you ain’t too good to drive to Simpsons Trailer Park to pick up your beer if I’m willing to haul it there from the warehouse.
And besides that, I’m cheap. I don’t want to pay a extra penny tax for anything. They already got me with the tax on Skoal and Red Man. You can hang me if I give them more tax money.
See you tomorrow everybody.
Soothsayer
July 8th, 2012
9:27 pm
G Mare: I think this says it better than I ever could. Warning, you may find this offensive.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
9:28 pm
So who is NIF?
Someone who Jay has banned multiple times.
Once, he even accused Jay of being able to see what we type before we post it.
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
9:34 pm
I don’t know what is wrong with my ‘93 town car, other than old age. It has just over 50,000 miles on it & I paid for a new battery a few months ago. I am scared that it needs a new starter or alternator, both pricey I understand. Did I mention that old age, whether in cars or people, can SUCK?
,
curious
July 8th, 2012
9:41 pm
I like Roy Orbison.
Bottom line is: Republicans are praying for any bad economic news. They’re willing to sacrifice whoever loses their job or home in order to win.
just what is their plan, anyway?
Soothsayer
July 8th, 2012
9:42 pm
G Mare: I would take it to a car wash and steam clean the entire engine compartment. Works wonders.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
9:43 pm
ust what is their plan, anyway?
Do anything and everything to make sure Obama is a one term president.
Even if they have to trash this country to do it.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
9:44 pm
G Mare,
You have low miles on your car. It could be corrosion on your battery cables or something a decent mechanic can fix easily.
JamVet
July 8th, 2012
9:47 pm
They’re willing to sacrifice whoever loses their job or home in order to win.
Even other Republicans. (But shhhhh! Don’t tell them that. They “think” it is only lazy uppity blacks and various libs who have gotten crushed in the new American plutocracy.)
Kam, hysterical, huh?
Loved jewcowboy’s subsequent question to Jay, “What color tie am I wearing?”
Lord knows we have had more than our fair share of demented cons on this blog.
getalife, is right. We need a better quality of con here!
getalife
July 8th, 2012
9:48 pm
Sooth,
Bad idea with a hot engine. It could crack your block of the engine.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 8th, 2012
9:51 pm
Brother AmVet
It cracks me up every time I revisit that day.
bman.
July 8th, 2012
9:53 pm
“Bottom line is: Republicans are praying for any bad economic news”
All of the prayers in the world won’t help/hurt the economy.
“They’re willing to sacrifice whoever loses their job or home in order to win”
I’m not sure what this means. You’re not sure either, are you?
bman.
July 8th, 2012
9:55 pm
GMare .. .. 50k miles on a 1993 model? wow!
getalife
July 8th, 2012
9:57 pm
Jam,
They have been radicalized so they are all the same.
Now we have seen how easy it was for hitler to take over Germany.
Soothsayer
July 8th, 2012
10:03 pm
get: agreed. Keep it running.
Doggone/GA
July 8th, 2012
10:09 pm
RIP Ernest Borgnine
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
10:12 pm
Hey libs.
Are you willing to give up a piece of our Constitution to the U.N. ? 2nd Amendment now but something you’re very unhappy with later ?
This is just the kind of thing that could one day bring it all to a head:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/06/07/u-n-agreement-should-have-all-gun-owners-up-in-arms/
Soothsayer
July 8th, 2012
10:12 pm
Well, I will leave you will this one on this beautiful Sunday evening. This a pathetique humble song written by Bill Monroe. That’s him on the left. Lester Flatt is in the middle and Earl Scruggs is on the right. Lester Flatt sings the melody with Bill Monroe singing the high harmony.
Oscar
July 8th, 2012
10:18 pm
G Mare,
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Could be rust from lack of use. Hear that can cause malfunctions.
I would first get someone to get a steel brush and brush the battery cables and connections well. They can carrode and cause problems. But this should have been done when your new battery was installed.
Its easy to chech the alternater output with a voltage meter. Not sure how to check the starter. A mechanic at a service station could check it out for you.
Good luck.
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
10:30 pm
Well, I would take it to a car wash if I could get it started. Re the low mileage, guy I bought it from had several vehicles, and I mostly drove it to & from work, just over 3 miles each way. Will keep y’all posted.
G Mare
July 8th, 2012
10:32 pm
And I truly appreciate the tips & advice.
Jm
July 8th, 2012
10:34 pm
“Bad idea with a hot engine. It could crack your block of the engine.”
Getalife, even if you wouldn’t make a great economist, you’d make a half decent shade tree mechanic
Jm
July 8th, 2012
10:35 pm
Scout – UN wants to have anew worldwide tax to fund its operations
Insane idea, won’t happen
But it shows how insane and out of touch the UN is
Jm
July 8th, 2012
10:36 pm
G mare I hope you can get your car fixed, keep us updated
getalife
July 8th, 2012
10:43 pm
jm,
I have been around.
Tundra Dude
July 8th, 2012
10:55 pm
G Mare:
On a car that old, your battery connecting terminals may be on Top. If so, just pour coke over them, let sit a few minutes. Also check for tightness of connections.
ps: Some, but not all, Autozone stores will check battery & alt for free, if you get it running.
TGT
July 8th, 2012
11:01 pm
As if we needed science to tell us this, but nevertheless, it looks like it has:
It looks like that, along with being more generous than liberals, conservatives are happier than liberals, with those right wing extremists the happiest of all!!!
From Arthur C. Brooks in the New York Times, “Scholars on both the left and right have studied this question extensively, and have reached a consensus that it is conservatives who possess the happiness edge. Many data sets show this. For example, the Pew Research Center in 2006 reported that conservative Republicans were 68 percent more likely than liberal Democrats to say they were “very happy” about their lives. This pattern has persisted for decades. The question isn’t whether this is true, but why.
“Many conservatives favor an explanation focusing on lifestyle differences, such as marriage and faith. They note that most conservatives are married; most liberals are not. (The percentages are 53 percent to 33 percent, according to my calculations using data from the 2004 General Social Survey, and almost none of the gap is due to the fact that liberals tend to be younger than conservatives.) Marriage and happiness go together. If two people are demographically the same but one is married and the other is not, the married person will be 18 percentage points more likely to say he or she is very happy than the unmarried person.
“The story on religion is much the same. According to the Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey, conservatives who practice a faith outnumber religious liberals in America nearly four to one. And the link to happiness? You guessed it. Religious participants are nearly twice as likely to say they are very happy about their lives as are secularists (43 percent to 23 percent). The differences don’t depend on education, race, sex or age; the happiness difference exists even when you account for income.
“Whether religion and marriage should make people happy is a question you have to answer for yourself. But consider this: Fifty-two percent of married, religious, politically conservative people (with kids) are very happy — versus only 14 percent of single, secular, liberal people without kids.
getalife
July 8th, 2012
11:07 pm
Perhaps a gentleman on this blog that lives close to G Mare could take a look at her car.
Jm
July 8th, 2012
11:07 pm
Tgt
Liberals want the state to make them happy
It is impossible
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
11:07 pm
Jm:
The U.N. should have been moved to Moscow or a third world country years ago. That would let the “ambassadors” really see what their policies do.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 8th, 2012
11:08 pm
TGT:
Thank you !
Jm
July 8th, 2012
11:11 pm
Getalife
Good idea, though I bet she has some friends who can look at it
If not, i doubt gmare lives in south FL, but if so, I’d happily help
I will be in Atlanta next weekend though
Jm
July 8th, 2012
11:13 pm
Scout
Yes, the UN is loco……
Ted turner is awesome, but why he gave a bill to the UN is beyond me
So much waste and stupidity there
soof swayer
July 8th, 2012
11:38 pm
Hey, i know that dude…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XIww9Mqlig
getalife
July 9th, 2012
12:12 am
On second thought, that is a bad idea.
Never mind.
G Mare
July 9th, 2012
12:54 am
Thanks, y’all. I really appreciate the tips & offers of help. I live in Smyrna, GA., & have son & son-in-law as well as AARP motoring plan. Been too hot to call anyone!
A few years ago, when oldest grand got his license, I offered the use of my car. He said, “Gramma, your car is almost as old as I am.” Oh, snap!
Okay, this ole grandma is headed for the bed, “to sleep, perchance to dream,” or perhaps to dream of sleep.
Oscar
July 9th, 2012
2:03 am
Jm
____________
Jm – Stop by the Hickory House by Northlake for breakfast. Maybe you will see me or Fred. I’m the tall old man with not much hair in a long sleeved shirt.. Don’t know what Fred looks like.
Oscar
July 9th, 2012
2:06 am