To get you “started” on tonight’s journey …

I guess it’s no surprise that someone with a deep affection for the relatively obscure movie “That Thing You Do,” not to mention a nom de blogue of “stands for decibels,” would have a deep appreciation for music, particularly music of a particular era. From what little we know of him from his postings, he is also a fan of Rachel Maddow and Eric Blair, and one of the calmer voices on an often cacophonous blog.

He is also tonight’s guest host. Ladies and gentlemen, sfd:

“I’d been thinking about some pretext to recommend a tune by a band whose song “Start!” is one that’s somewhat familiar to American ears, and while it may not be my absolute favorite ever-ever by the Jam, I gave it another listen last night and heard some elements I hadn’t previously considered.

For starters, it’s not necessarily specific to the “start” of any particular kind of relationship–it might be about connecting with a potential lover, or a friend, of maybe just a fan. (Given that I was as big a fan as one could be when they recorded it, I wanted to believe that last one.) Musically, when you consider bandleader Paul Weller’s unabashed love for mid-60s rock, it’s kind of a one-song homage to all three composers of the Revolver lp–the opening riff is lifted from George’s “Taxman,” the solo could’ve been part of John’s “Tomorrow Never Knows,” and the bit of horns is a nod to Paul’s “Got to Get You into My Life.”

I could regale you with personal connections to this band, but suffice to say this tune appeared on an album that was released whilst I was sharing a house with a bandmate, wherein we rehearsed in the basement, and we covered more of the Jam’s tunes than we should. I loved their sound, dug the look, and I envied the massive following they had in Britain while being dumbfounded as to why they couldn’t get more of an audience here in the states. (as to that last bit: now it’s obvious. 1) they were just too English for most Americans to digest, and 2) the Jam likely didn’t give enough of a crap to adjust their sound, and tone down their accents, to make themselves more marketable here.)

If you’re not familiar with their catalog, they did six albums–all have some classic nuggets within, but you can’t go wrong with the 3rd, 4th, or the 5th album (Sound Affects), from which “Start” is a part.

And back, for just a bit, to the sentiments expressed? I think it’s true of what we try to do at your blog, with one another. We don’t always really understand each other, we get p–ed off and fight over the silliest of reasons, but it’s different sides, talking to each other, sort of. And at least it’s a start.”

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July 8th, 2012
11:53 am

Uh Oh:

The law is the law.

Who is the “real” soldier present?

Brosephus™

July 8th, 2012
11:55 am

You can’t sell things to people who don’t have the money to buy.

I’ll co-sign that!!

getalife

July 8th, 2012
11:56 am

larry,

Yes, they do and they use oil money to pay for it.

The smartest thing the Iraqi government has done so far.

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July 8th, 2012
11:57 am

Hypocrisy is SHINING:

“true Chrisitanity”

“You can’t help but shake your head when reading these type of statements. Self aggrandizing and myopic at best.”

Could you expound a little? Do you not think there is true Christianity and false Christianity as expressed by individuals?

Christianity is not like joining a club or being a UGA fan ……….. it’s a supernatural change of the heart. Only God and the person truly know …………. outsiders can only guess.

That’s why Jesus said in reference to “some” of those in the future who would claim His name, “depart from Me for I never knew you”. Matthew 7:23

Doggone/GA

July 8th, 2012
11:58 am

“It all starts a downward spiral into a hole we are slowly getting out of.”

yes, it did. And business…especially large business…could have done something to slow that downward spiral if they had chosen to continue employing people they let go. Yes, they might have been paying people they didn’t really need to meet their demand at the time, but they would also have helped to keep that hole from getting deeper. And yes, that might have meant lower profiits in the short term, but it would have also meant a better long term outlook.

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
11:58 am

Scout,

I read the factcheck.org article detailing the Obama LIE campaign about Romney outsourcing jobs while at Bain Capital. Romney better get it together and realize that he’s going up against some truly despicable people who have zero problem telling flat out lies with a straight face.

The most ironical thing about the big Obama LIE is that the czar of his jobs council- Jeffrey Immelt of GE, is one of the biggest outsourcers out there. In addition to paying virtually no income tax last year he outsources hundreds of thousands of jobs. And this is the man O picked to lead his jobs council? It just doesn’t get any more ironical. It just don’t…

From that bastion of neo- con propoganda called the Huffington post.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-paul/should-ges-jeffrey-immelt_b_812132.html

“Let’s look at GE’s jobs record. You would have difficulty finding a company that has outsourced more jobs and closed more American factories than GE. While they have slashed their American workforce to fewer than 150,000, GE has dramatically expanded its global presence, now employing over 300,000 workers worldwide. Yes, GE has brought a trickle of jobs back to the U.S. over the past two years, but it still outsources more than it insources.”

larry

July 8th, 2012
11:58 am

“You know, there’s a lot of talk in this country about the federal deficit. But I think we should talk more about our empathy deficit – the ability to put ourselves in someone else’s shoes; to see the world through the eyes of those who are different from us – the child who’s hungry, the steelworker who’s been laid-off, the family who lost the entire life they built together when the storm came to town. When you think like this – when you choose to broaden your ambit of concern and empathize with the plight of others, whether they are close friends or distant strangers – it becomes harder not to act; harder not to help.”

— Barack Obama

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July 8th, 2012
11:58 am

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July 8th, 2012
11:59 am

Thulsa:

Thank you and notice how the libs. are a little quiet on that one this morning.

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July 8th, 2012
12:00 pm

8) To the American people regarding the Gulf Oil Crisis: ““I can’t suck it up with a straw”!

7) To the American people: “It’s absolutely not a tax increase !” http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/obama-campaign-its-a-penalty-not-a-tax-127721.html

6) To the American people: “Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this Presidency.”

5) To Larry King: “There has been a tendency by this administration to hide behind executive privilege.”

4) Speech to an Hispanic group: “With respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that’s just not the case ………. ”

3) To the American people: “The private sector is doing just fine.”

2) Please pass to Vladimir: “After the election I’ll have more flexibility.” http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?feature=player_embedded&v=-Czo5Vf8KZs

1) To the American electorate: “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”

BINGO !!

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
12:01 pm

“the child who’s hungry, the steelworker who’s been laid-off, the family who lost the entire life they built together when the storm came to town”

emotional rhetoric alert on aisle 15.

Brosephus™

July 8th, 2012
12:03 pm

Romney better get it together and realize that he’s going up against some truly despicable people who have zero problem telling flat out lies with a straight face.

Seems to me that both candidates have no problem at doing that. It’s not a one-sided affair at all. Seems that they are doing unto others as others have done unto them. This isn’t the first time that candidates have done that, and something tells me that this won’t be the last time either.

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
12:03 pm

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Worry about your walk with your God and let others do the same

Enough said

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
12:04 pm

Scout,

They all embellish and exaggerate to some degree but as the factcheck article points out this is just a flat out LIE campaign by the Obama campaign. These people have no shame. None.

getalife

July 8th, 2012
12:05 pm

GE is deflection of blame.

willard will do the same thing to our country as he did to bankrupt companies.

Vulture capitalism.

Own it cons.

larry

July 8th, 2012
12:06 pm

What Romney skips is his experience in eliminating jobs. It’s a facet of his career that presents a particular challenge for the Republican primary frontrunner: Tough business decisions don’t necessarily translate into good politics.

As head of private equity firm Bain Capital LLC, Romney was the lead deal-maker, buying and selling companies to make money for investors. Whether companies boomed or filed for bankruptcy, the Boston-based firm found profits for Romney, its other executives and investors. Romney, who spent most of his career at Bain, estimated his wealth in 2007 at as much as $250 million. He has yet to update his financial status for the 2012 presidential campaign.

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
12:07 pm

Bro,

I’m sure some of the Romney campaign claims are disputable even though I cannot think of one. But I haven’t seen a Romney campaign claim that is nothing more than a flat out LIE like this whopper by the Obama campaign. And they know its a bald faced lie is what’s really bad.

getalife

July 8th, 2012
12:07 pm

We would be here all day listing gop lies but the biggest whoppers are cutting spending and running on jobs.

larry

July 8th, 2012
12:09 pm

Bain and the campaign didn’t respond to requests for job creation estimates

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
12:10 pm

“These people have no shame.”

Does this guy have shame?

http://factcheck.org/2012/05/romneys-gross-exaggeration-on-obamacare/

getalife

July 8th, 2012
12:10 pm

When they fact check willard we get pants on fire.

The man just can’t tell the truth.

carlosgvv

July 8th, 2012
12:14 pm

Scout

From a draft by George Washington, and signed by John Adams in 1797:

“The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion”

Of course, you know more about America’s founding than two founding fathers. Right?

JamVet

July 8th, 2012
12:15 pm

So what if a small fraction of Bain’s investments outsourced jobs?

Writes the guy who has written on this very forum that forty years of flat-lined wages for a huge majority of American working families is a good thing…

True Christians?

A lifetime of evidence has shown me that they are generally some of the biggest liars and unethical frauds around…

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
12:15 pm

Just want to remind everyone to tell relatives, friends, etc. to watch it with the alcohol and water activities. My gf’s cousin died yesterday. He was at a local lake, they had been drinking, and he dove into the water and never came up. We suspect he hit the bottom hard and broke his neck which is a frequent occurrence with tall, lean young men diving into swimming pools/lakes. But we don’t know yet and the autopsy will let us know. He was a young man in his early 30s and leaves behind 3 young daughters. Damn that sucks.

Also on Lake Lanier I go to the Holiday Marina which is where that seadoo accident occurred yesterday where 2 kids were seriously hurt. I’m guessing alcohol or just plain recklessness was involved. So everyone be careful out there during the summer season. Lotta crazies, lotta poor judgement, and a lotta alcohol that just makes things more dangerous for everyone.

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
12:15 pm

“I’m sure some of the Romney campaign claims are disputable even though I cannot think of one”

One only need to open their partisan eyes to realize that lies are being told on all sides.

http://factcheck.org/2012/06/romneys-solar-flareout/

getalife

July 8th, 2012
12:16 pm

You cons don’t love willard do you.

Don't Forget

July 8th, 2012
12:21 pm

Thulsa Doom
“Romney better get it together and realize that he’s going up against some truly despicable people who have zero problem telling flat out lies with a straight face.”

REALLY??? You wanna go there? Ok lets! Just go through the pages upon pages of republican lies from this link. Seems the closest the republicans can come to truth is just a half truth.

http://www.politifact.com/search/?q=obamacare

So, why aren’t those people despicable to you too?

JamVet

July 8th, 2012
12:22 pm

Doomy, good advice. Alcohol and boats (like cars) is a real bad idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkgozdtsh_g

Brosephus™

July 8th, 2012
12:23 pm

I’m sure some of the Romney campaign claims are disputable even though I cannot think of one.

Honestly, I wouldn’t expect otherwise from you. That would be no different than expecting getalife to find anything disputable that Obama’s camp has claimed.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/fact-check-romney-distorts-obama-position-on-israel-20120126

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/romneys-whopper-claim-on-an-obama-health-care-pledge/2012/07/03/gJQAVhk3IW_blog.html

I tried to find unbiased sources, but as things are in this country right now, you’re more likely to find Jimmy Hoffa, Elvis, and Tupac living together before you find something “unbiased”.

getalife

July 8th, 2012
12:23 pm

doomy,

I had a friend drown at Lake Lanier on my friends boat.

A old girlfriend that lives on the lake called and said they are cracking down on bui’s.

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
12:25 pm

Uh oh,

Read the article please. As factcheck points out its an erroneous claim and exaggeration by Romney. But the farther you read into the article you realize that Romney either misspoke or that he is not that far off to begin with. The near 50% pertains to the level of govt spending on healthcare which is according to the article at 43% already and as the article points out will rise to 49%. His error is in stating that all health care will be under govt control because he considers Obamacare to be a government intrusion into health care. An inaccurate perception but not an out and out lie- especially since many consider Obamacare as govt control of healthcare though it is not- it is merely quite a heavy dose of govt regulation or quasi-control of how private health care will now be run.

“Mitt Romney falsely claims government will “constitute … almost 50 percent” of the U.S. economy when the new federal health care law takes full effect. But Romney gets to 50 percent by erroneously counting all health care spending — private and public — as “effectively under government control once Obamacare is fully implemented,” as his spokesman put it.”

Later on it says the following below:

“All government spending on health care amounted to 43.6 percent of total spending on health care in 2009, before the new law was enacted in March 2010. And by 2020, after several years of full implementation, it will still account for just 49.2 percent — according to the most recent annual projections by the acknowledged authority on the subject, the Office of Actuary in the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

carlosgvv

July 8th, 2012
12:28 pm

Brosephus

Someone on This Week had an interesting and, at the same time sad, idea. He said to go to a good Canadian site to get honest, unbiased news about our politicians.

getalife

July 8th, 2012
12:30 pm

Bro,

“That would be no different than expecting getalife to find anything disputable that Obama’s camp has claimed.”

Oh that is easy.

They claimed the unemployment rate would be lower.

getalife

July 8th, 2012
12:32 pm

carlos,

Do you remember the name of the Canadian source?

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
12:32 pm

Thulsa Doom

If you want to stick by that claim that you do not know of any disputable claims by the Romney camp and really believe that, regardless of the facts, I will let you get back to your dreams.

Romney camp has put out whoppers just like Obama. Only difference is that you are willing to call out one side and sidestep and make excuses for the other.

Your reality on this issue is distorted. You chose but still distorted

Brosephus™

July 8th, 2012
12:35 pm

carlos

That’s quite sad, but not something that I’d disagree with. When I do my scan for news, I’ll use sources outside the US from time to time. When doing so, I try to avoid wire service reports if I can, as those are usually a story written by one and just passed around like Halloween candy.

Brosephus™

July 8th, 2012
12:35 pm

getalife

July 8th, 2012
12:37 pm

Actually, most “news” is AP reporting then added bias by other “pundits”.

JamVet

July 8th, 2012
12:37 pm

Mendacious Mitt? The man flips more than a pancake cook.

Romney now proudly says that he is a “lifetime” member of the NRA.

In reality, Romney vigorously opposed the NRA. And only became a “lifetime” member recently by buying the honor from the group.

His history on the matter?

He signed the nation’s first ban on assault weapons in Massachusetts and steeply increased fees on gun owners by 400%. He also backed a gun-control measures that was strongly opposed by the National Rifle Association: the Brady Law, which imposed a five-day waiting period on gun sales.

Watch out cons! He’s gonna take your guns next!

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
12:42 pm

Brocephus,

On the Washington post article I see a disagreement in the numbers- not an out and out lie. Secondly the author of that post flat out admits that part of the problem is the vagueness and inaccuracy of Obama’s promises and statements on the subject- which simply engenders more disagreement on the numbers and accuracy of what O was claiming or not claiming. And in reading it there is certainly room for disagreement on the numbers. If a conservative campaign were to carefully look at the numbers and assumptions the author was using to rebut Romney I’ve no doubt he could pick apart the errors in this gentleman’s assumptions and why this gentleman thinks R was wrong.

Now on to Romney’s statement on O on Israel. He was wrong on what O said in a debate. All candidates are going to say inaccurate things in debates and Romney’s assertion was that O was silent on the Palestinian bomb attacks on Israel. He was wrong though because O had condemned the attacks a year or 2 earlier in a speech. Romney is not going to know every single thing that O has or has not said on every single topic. Being wrong on one statement in a debate is totally different from an orchestrated, pre-meditated lie such as the Obama lie that Romney was outsourcing jobs at Bain. And I expect O will say some things that are inaccurate and misleading about Romney on the stump or in a debate. That I expect but not orchestrated campaign lies.

getalife

July 8th, 2012
12:46 pm

carlos,

Was it the National post, CBC or Daily Mail?

I look at those and most of it is bragging about how Canada is better than us.

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
12:47 pm

Uh oh,

I explained it very easily that even you could understand it. I notice in your rebuttal you did not try to rebut my explanation. You just went into some jibberish about excuses and distortions and reality. Perhaps you need to recheck your own version of reality and the rose colored glasses that you look through. Cult of personality worship is a leftist phenomenon not a conservative one.

Mighty Righty

July 8th, 2012
12:50 pm

Brosephus:

I seriously doubt you want to compare degrees I graduated from a non liberal arts state university at a time when there were no feel good, PC or affirmitive action degrees. I am sure you really didn’t mean what you said below:

“I think supplimental appropriations should be used for emergency situations only, and planned and executed” war is NOT an emergency situation”

An amazing statement. War is not an emergency!

My fellow GI’s would have disagreed about war being an emergency.

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
12:50 pm

“Cult of personality worship is a leftist phenomenon not a conservative one.”

Reagan was a leftist?

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July 8th, 2012
12:51 pm

carlosgvv:

Agree to disagree.

All he was stating is that the United States is not a “theocracy”. No one wants that ……… with a state church, religious tests, etc., etc.

“By their actions, the Founding Fathers made clear that their primary concern was religious freedom, not the advancement of a state religion. Individuals, not the government, would define religious faith and practice in the United States.”

Here is the last paragraph from his Inaugural Address in 1789 which clarifies his postion.

“Having thus imported to you my sentiments, as they have been awakened by the occasion which brings us together, I shall take my present leave; but not without resorting once more to the benign parent of the human race, in humble supplication that since he has been pleased to favour the American people, with opportunities for deliberating in perfect tranquility, and dispositions for deciding with unparellelled unanimity on a form of Government, for the security of their Union, and the advancement of their happiness; so his divine blessing may be equally conspicuous in the enlarged views, the temperate consultations, and the wise measures on which the success of this Government must depend.” George Washington

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
12:51 pm

JamVet

July 8th, 2012
12:52 pm

From time to time, all politicians stretch the truth, but Mitt Romney is in a league of his own. Whether he’s talking about himself or his opponent, he’s one of the most consistently dishonest politicians ever to seek the presidency. He spouts so much nonsense it’s almost like he’s delusional, but he’s not. He knows he’s lying. He’s not the kind of guy who actually believes in conspiracy theories. He’s the kind of guy who, when it serves his own interest, creates conspiracy theories for others to believe. And the great thing about this video is that it efficiently and persuasively exposes Romney for who he really is: an unscrupulous salesman.

The Obama campaign takes seven of Mitt Romney’s attacks on President Obama and exposes each one of them as transparent lies in this 84 second, must-watch video:

DO NOT LOOK AT THIS VIDEO, ROMNEYBOTS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM9DVC7kd7s&feature=player_embedded

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
12:52 pm

Bush was a leftist?

Took the right almost 6 yrs to realize that the man was a dud. Some of the same one’s saying I never liked him, are the same ones who were defending him to the hilt

Oblama

July 8th, 2012
12:54 pm

Bonnie Fwank gets married and the comic book that is D.C. goes on.

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July 8th, 2012
12:54 pm

Uh Oh @ 12:03

“Worry about your walk with your God and let others do the same

Enough said”

You sure are a little testy today.

My Bible tells me to let my walk with God be seen !

“Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 5:16

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July 8th, 2012
12:55 pm

Thulsa:

We got ‘em going !!! …………………… :o

Out for awhile ! Everyone be nice and no name calling !

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
12:56 pm

Rush is a leftist?

While many on the right do not listen to him, he does have the most listened to show on the radio. While some of his audience certainly listens to disagree and laugh, are you naive to think the majority of his followers are not right of center.

Is that not ‘cult of personality’ or do you have another weak stereotype that I can easily debunk?

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
12:57 pm

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“we got em going”

You have a frog in your pocket?

JamVet

July 8th, 2012
12:58 pm

Reagan was a leftist?

Are you referring to the month long pukefest on Fox, et al, when he kicked the bucket?

HOT AIR

July 8th, 2012
12:58 pm

JV – When you become perfect then you can sit in judgement of others and we will listen – until then it is just HOT AIR.

JamVet

July 8th, 2012
1:00 pm

we will listen

We?

Tell it to your pocket gerbils…

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
1:00 pm

“My Bible tells me to let my walk with God be seen !”

Your walk makes you the arbitrator of all things Christian? Some of the things you post make it seem that way.

carlosgvv

July 8th, 2012
1:01 pm

getalife – 12:46

They did not mention a specific site.

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
1:02 pm

Cult of personality

Every election almost every candidate running attempts to cloak themselves in the persona of Reagan and attempt to resurrect his ghost. And someone from the right claims it is a leftist thing.

Thanks for the chuckles

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
1:03 pm

“When you become perfect then you can sit in judgement of others and we will listen – until then it is just HOT AIR.”

Time for you to stop avoiding looking at mirrors

getalife

July 8th, 2012
1:04 pm

reagan did not even know where he was at the end of his term.

HOT AIR

July 8th, 2012
1:04 pm

Uh Oh – HOT AIR ……….. your opinion is – HOT AIR

getalife

July 8th, 2012
1:05 pm

carlos,

Thanks.

“Got em going?”

Nah, just the same ole lies.

Brosephus™

July 8th, 2012
1:05 pm

Doom

You prove my point. You will justify Romney’s mis-steps just as an Obama supporter will justify his. Both of them bend the truth and/or outright misrepresent it. Just goes to show that the faithful will always find a way to accept it.

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An amazing statement. War is not an emergency!

And even more amazing that you purposefully truncated what I said. A planned and executed war is not an emergency. Responding to a Pearl Harbor is an emergency. If you know you’re going to attack someone 2 years out, something tells me that does not really qualify as an emergency. As I’ve often heard others say, “A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.”

Even if you want to consider war an emergency, the baseline operations should still go into the general budget after the first year since you already know that you’re going to need to spend the money. Using accounting tricks, such as special appropriation funding to pay for it is intellectually dishonest.

Also, for the record Mighty Righty, I don’t get into pissing contest about comparing degrees and such. I didn’t suggest that, and if you feel the need to flaunt your degrees to mask your lack of civics knowledge, feel free to do so.

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
1:06 pm

doomy,

“I had a friend drown at Lake Lanier on my friends boat.”

getalife,

That sucks. I would be willing to bet there are quite a few of us that know someone or know of someone that died on Lanier or one of the other lakes. Terribly unfortunate.

barking frog

July 8th, 2012
1:07 pm

Right hates the working
poor because they don’t
pay taxes, get food stamps
and subsidized housing.
Left hates the working poor
because they are healthcare
moochers.
At last the war on the
impoverished is bipartisan.

JamVet

July 8th, 2012
1:07 pm

…or do you have another weak stereotype that I can easily debunk?

Too funny.

More Rascals…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy625sZAHN8&feature=related

Oblama

July 8th, 2012
1:09 pm

Reagan – I knew Reagan and Obama is definitely to the FAR left of Reagan. Obama wants you to think he is Reagan but he is against everything Reagan stood for. Obama is no Reagan.

carlosgvv

July 8th, 2012
1:10 pm

getalife

Try

newsroom-magazine.com

I’m not sure if they are Canadianl

getalife

July 8th, 2012
1:11 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

July 8th, 2012
1:14 pm

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
1:15 pm

Brocephus,

I read each of your complaints regarding Romney and it seems to me there is a big difference between a misstatement or simply being wrong and an orchestrated lie. And as I said I don’t fault Obama much for simple misstatements of truth which happen all the time and which all candidates will make. Regardless though we will politely agree to disagree as always and move on.

St Simons

July 8th, 2012
1:16 pm

kamikaze trolling – its all the rage in greater wingnuttia on the tubes.

and will have the same ultimate result in the battle of the forces
of Good over Evil.

Its a beautiful day in an America saved by our president from
neocon trickle down destruction. Les go surfin

getalife

July 8th, 2012
1:16 pm

Thanks carlos,

I am always looking for unbiased sources.

doomy,

I was getting hammered at a bar when I got the call so let my girlfriend drive me down to the lake to search. They said he had a heart attack when he hit the water at night. I spent a lot of time on that lake and Lake Mead and the Colorado river. My favorite places to go.

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
1:18 pm

“Reagan – I knew Reagan”

No, you did not. You knew of and about Reagan.

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
1:21 pm

Uh oh,

When I see people wearing cool looking red, green, and gold silhouetted t-shirts of Reagan or any other con running for office the same way they have all those t-shirts of Obama then maybe you will have some credibility regarding the man worshipping cult of personality phenomenon. Until then the man worshipping crap is a product of sheeple on the left. And you know that.

Bonnie Fwank

July 8th, 2012
1:22 pm

My boyfriend got caught with little boys in my basement. Did I have anything to do with it? According to what your meaning of “is” is. Now I’m gonna retire from screwing up the real estate market with my demands for the banks to loan to those that can’t pay for the houses. You can thank me for the mess that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are in if you want to. Even though I was on C-Span threatening the banks to lend or be fined and sued by the Fed – I deny being responsible and I m going to retire to my fat pension and free health care. I’m arrogant, I’m low life, and I’m proud of it.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

July 8th, 2012
1:23 pm

I seriously doubt you want to compare degrees I graduated from a non liberal arts state university at a time when there were no feel good, PC or affirmitive action degrees.

I graduated simultaneously from Harvard, Yale, Brown, Princeton, MIT, CalTech and the University of Oxford in England.

I swam the Bering Sea from Alaska to Russia naked.

I can make The Most Interesting Man in the World cry like a four-year-old girl.

I scored the winning goal in the past 5 World Cup Finals.

I free dived to the bottom of the Marianas Trench naked.

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
1:24 pm

Thulsa

You must be one who is in the Reagan camp.

getalife

July 8th, 2012
1:24 pm

The idea that one man can change corrupt congress is over.

It is the people’s job to do that so lets stop blaming the pols and lets start blaming the American voters for reelecting congress.

Deal?

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
1:24 pm

getalife,

Did he dive into cold water? Cold water can shock a man, even a young healthy man and trigger a heart attack. Even just cool but not cold water can do it. I suspect that may have been what happened though I’m no MD. Where’s Don’t Forget when ya need him?

HOT AIR

July 8th, 2012
1:25 pm

JV – It takes a pukefest to know one.

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
1:26 pm

Uh oh,

You must be the one wearing the silhouetted Obama t-shirt. Or is it dirty and in the laundry so you’re wearing your cool Che shirt instead?

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
1:27 pm

getalife

July 8th, 2012
1:29 pm

doomy,

It was at night in the middle of summer so the water was cooler.

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
1:29 pm

Thulsa

No, I’m not the one who is so naive to think that political campaigns are not dirty and filled with lies. I said as much. It is you still making excuses for Romney

getalife

July 8th, 2012
1:30 pm

bonnie,

Get your cheap shots in while you can because his career is ending on a happy note by getting married.

You wish you had his intellect don’t you?

Uh Oh

July 8th, 2012
1:35 pm

“So if I see a tshirt…………” hahahahaha

Every Republican candidate longs to be Reagan an can’t say his name enough, many on right can’t bring him up enough (Doom being the main one of this blog) and that is not “cult of personality”

alrighty…….

be good people

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
1:36 pm

Uh oh @ 1:29,

I guess you moved on from the lies of political campaigns to some nonsense about Reagan. Speaking of Reagan here’s one guy who just loves to invoke his name. We can only post 2 links at a time so I’ll keep his adulation of Reagan to a minimum. He do love his Reagan remembrances don’t he?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/04/8153739-obama-invokes-reagan-takes-on-cantor?lite

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/buffett-rule-could-be-reagan-rule-obama-says/

JamVet

July 8th, 2012
1:37 pm

Smog, clever.

You probably think that Dennis Miller is the funniest man in the world.

Obama wants you to think he is Reagan but he is against everything Reagan stood for.

Do you mean allowing disgraced marines to run illegal operations out of the White House basement? And everybody involved playing stupid to perfection?

Or arming and abetting damn near every murderous dictator and thug around the globe?

Or granting amnesty to illegal immigrants?

Or his growing homelessness to record levels?

Or maybe the always popular S&L scandals and bailouts?

Or perhaps the full scale assault on working class wages?

The man’s administration was a train wreck.

Thanks gawd, BHO is not like him…

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
1:39 pm

Uh oh,

Big difference between worshipping a man as left wing cultists do and admiring a political philosophy of free markets and limited govt. You be sure to lemme know when you see one a them cultist cons wearing t-shirts of Reagan or any other con. Ya hear now?

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
1:42 pm

getalife,

Unfortunately that could do it. Even a light shock to the system of an older man or a man that may have some issues I suspect could trigger a heart attack. Between that and all the alcohol on our lakes and rivers seems an unfortunate number of people needlessly die every year on our waterways.

JamVet

July 8th, 2012
1:42 pm

get, exactly like geedub, Willard is not a tenth of the man his father was.

Not intellectually, morally or in courage…

BTW, the facts are that Reagan EXPLODED the size, scope, cost, ineptitude and interference of the federal government.

Time to pull out an oldie but goodie…

Ronald Reagan is not the solution to our problems, Ronald Reagan is the problem. ~Thomas Jefferson

getalife

July 8th, 2012
1:44 pm

reagan was a bad President but not as bad as w.

getalife

July 8th, 2012
1:49 pm

doomy,

It was a shock because he was a tough and very strong man.

Most of my friends died in car accidents and I was with two of them.

One rolled the car about 10 times and the other head on.

My neck and back remind me of these crashes everyday.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

July 8th, 2012
1:50 pm

Reagan personally tore down the Berlin Wall with one hand tied behind his back while standing on on leg.

TaxPayer

July 8th, 2012
1:53 pm

I heard Ronnie actually stood there in front of the little pig’s brick wall and said that he would huff and puff and blow with a huge tax hike followed by giving Iran and nice big wet one on the lips.

getalife

July 8th, 2012
1:54 pm

Jam,

willard’s Dad was a much better man and born in Mexico.

willard does not even have the guts to discuss his Mexican roots.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

July 8th, 2012
1:55 pm

Thulsa Doom

July 8th, 2012
1:55 pm

The Reagan legend just keeps on growing. Kamchak must be one of them former East Germans spreading the Reagan legend. Ronnie’s ghost says “You are welcome kam!” But lets not get carried away. He was in fact standing on both legs.