
Not good, not terrible, and no surprises. Politically and economically, a continuation of the status quo, with little impact on current trajectories.
From the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
“Nonfarm payroll employment continued to edge up in June (+80,000), and the unemployment rate was unchanged at 8.2 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Professional and business services added jobs, and employment in other major industries changed little over the month…
In the second quarter, employment growth averaged 75,000 per month, compared with an average monthly gain of 226,000 for the first quarter of the year. Slower job growth in the second quarter occurred in most major industries.
Professional and business services added 47,000 jobs in June, with temporary help services accounting for 25,000 of the increase. Employment also rose in management and technical consulting services (+9,000) and in computer systems design and related services (+7,000). Employment in professional and business services has grown by 1.5 million since its most recent low point in September 2009.
Employment in manufacturing continued to edge up in June (+11,000). Growth in the second quarter averaged 10,000 per month, compared with an average of 41,000 per month during the first quarter. In June, employment increased in motor vehicles and parts (+7,000) and in fabricated metal products (+5,000)….
The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for April was revised from +77,000 to +68,000, and the change for May was revised from +69,000 to +77,000.
– Jay Bookman
308 comments Add your comment
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:39 am
Thank you O beneficent Captains of Industry.
Mr_B
July 6th, 2012
8:39 am
Mornin’, Jay.
Things are looking better.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:39 am
Yea verily, our Galtian Overlords are merciful.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:40 am
Obama needs to kiss Wall Street’s ass a bit more, I guess.
Oh, and… AUSTERITY!
Lord Help Us
July 6th, 2012
8:40 am
Sign of a slowdown in China are more scary than this jobs number…was hoping for better…
Adam
July 6th, 2012
8:41 am
Where are the jobs you promised, Mr. Boehner!
adam ant
July 6th, 2012
8:42 am
Mr. B Better? On what planet pray tell are things looking better or did you forget to add the sarcasm tag?
Mr_B
July 6th, 2012
8:42 am
It’s all the fault of that Kenyan, Socialist, Obamacare-crammin”, subverter of the 2nd amendment.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:42 am
Clearly, we need to cut spending. That’ll get them jerbs back.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:43 am
If only we could Grand-Bargain away some Social Security benefits, so that our billionaires could feel more secure.
bman
July 6th, 2012
8:43 am
Yes Mr B…if you have lowered your expectations, like economists have, things are looking better.
Mr_B
July 6th, 2012
8:44 am
AA: the same planet that those 80K Americans who didn’t have a job the quarter before live on. Ask one of them if sarcasm is justified.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 6th, 2012
8:44 am
Oh if the Republicans would ever live up to their empty promises of jobs….. we could be replacing infrastructure (ask the thousands without electricity about that prospect) and putting thousands to work while getting the infrastructure at rock bottom prices….
But hey, them women folk need to have their vaginas controlled first by old white men.
Thomas
July 6th, 2012
8:44 am
No jobs
Lots of bloggers
Same song second, third, and fourth verse
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:45 am
“The catfood will be yummy. And you didn’t really want to live well into your 80s, did you?”
–Alan Simpson
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
8:45 am
Now everybody hold your breath in excited anticipation….
Any minute now we’ll get a tweet from Eric Cantor taking credit for the jobs, jobs, jobs…..like before…remember?
I think he (along with Mr. Speaker Boehner) does deserve some of the
credit for these numbers, don’t you?
I mean look at the sand – where you can clearly see the marks from their foot dragging…..
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 6th, 2012
8:45 am
“Thank you O beneficent Captains of Industry.”
yay!!! couldn’t have said it better
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 6th, 2012
8:46 am
“Where are the jobs you promised, Mr. Boehner!”
evidently in my uterus, considering that’s where they’ve spent most of their time focusing …
Mr_B
July 6th, 2012
8:46 am
bman: Only in the Republican mind is 80K new jobs bad news.
Gotta get the outside stuff done before it gets too hot. Check back in later.
Jm
July 6th, 2012
8:46 am
I think the headline describes it….
130,000 jobs is treading water given population growth, so we’re still slowly going down the tubes.
That said, at least it wasn’t negative. And additional government stimulus was generally negligible.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
8:48 am
Employment in January 2009: 133,561,000
Employment in February 2009 (after Obama’s policies had any marginal chance of taking effect): 132,837,000
Employment June 2012: 133,088,000
Compared to January 2009: -483,000
Compared to February 2009: +251,000
Quarter of a million jobs ADDED since February 2009.
Private sector:
January 2009: 110,985,000
February 2009: 110,260,000
June 2012: 111,145,000
Compared to January 2009: +160,000
Compared to February 2009: +885,000
Almost a million private sector jobs added since February 2009.
td
July 6th, 2012
8:48 am
Unemployment 8.2%. Predictions are for low or no growth for the 3rd and 4th quarters this year. Is this the Hope and Change we were looking for 4 years ago?
Jefferson
July 6th, 2012
8:49 am
Work is overrated.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
July 6th, 2012
8:49 am
I wonder what the real number will be after they are revised downward, President Downgrade?
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:50 am
Adam @ 8.41, House Republicans have been working diligently these past weeks to protect the jobs of gun dealers that specialize in bulk sales to straw buyers. So there’s that.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 6th, 2012
8:50 am
Well, a step forward is a step in the right direction. It’s good to see.
USinUK,
Like Rachel says…Boehner has a laser focus on jobs, jobs, jobs…meaning abortion. Gotta love her!
TaxPayer
July 6th, 2012
8:50 am
80,000 new jobs is bad news for the Republicans. They were hoping for a much smaller number.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
8:51 am
td: Is this the Hope and Change we were looking for 4 years ago?
MY GOD! You’re RIGHT! I am casting my vote for Romney! Hallelujah! I have seeeeeeen the light!
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 6th, 2012
8:52 am
“MY GOD! You’re RIGHT! I am casting my vote for Romney! Hallelujah! I have seeeeeeen the light!”
Welp, Romney IS all about jobs …
just not American jobs …
JohnnyReb
July 6th, 2012
8:53 am
The largest employers are not Wall Street, not “industry,” instead it is small businesses. Employment started contractiing as soon as it was obvious Obama would likely be president. It will stay contracted as long as he and liberals are in control.
He’s not exactly instilling confidence, now is he?
Don’t ask for links and proof – think of it similar to the Farmers Almanac.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
8:53 am
Welp, Romney IS all about jobs …
just not American jobs …
I loves me some FoxConn work shifts. Please sir, may I have ANOTHER dorm roommate?
carlosgvv
July 6th, 2012
8:54 am
Obama and the Democrats will state, correctly, that it is not the job of The President to create jobs. They will point out, correctly again, that a multitude of factors are responsible for this situation. Democratic voters who can think for themselves will agree.
Romney and the Republicans will, incorrectly, blame all this joblesness on The President. They will look straight into the cameras, and knowing they are lying, heap all the blame on Obama. Republican voters, unable to think for themselves, will swallow every lie hook-line-and-sinker.
markie mark
July 6th, 2012
8:54 am
Stands….they only sell in bulk to straw buyers who had the Dept of Justice block the background checks….or did you just forget about that little fact?
Adam
July 6th, 2012
8:54 am
Employment started contractiing as soon as it was obvious Obama would likely be president.
And that’s why private sector businesses have been losing jobs for over two years.
OH WAIT
td
July 6th, 2012
8:54 am
Adam
July 6th, 2012
8:51 am
I am sure you will be voting for Obama but at least I can go to bed on election night knowing your vote was not counted in Georgia. All 16 votes from Georgia will be cast for Romney.
markie mark
July 6th, 2012
8:55 am
when we need 250k – 300k generated a month just to keep our heads above water…..well, you guys just keep spinning for a few more months, please…..jeeze…..
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:55 am
Gotta love her!
Fortunately, mrs. sfd knows that my own deep, abiding love for Dr. Maddow can never be properly reciprocated.
(and there’s the whole “Susan would stomp my ass” business.)
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 6th, 2012
8:56 am
Is this the Hope and Change we were looking for 4 years ago?
Well now, first let’s be honest, you were not looking for Hope and Change….you were part of the Party First group….. and your conned friends continue to use every tactic possible to block hope and change. Thankfully we continue to fight for it.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
8:56 am
Gas prices and jobs. Let’s see if I am correct and drudge has this headline…
Oh, it’s “8.2%” Cleverness of you, drudge.
I await the wingnut repetition.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
8:57 am
Boy, I sure am looking forward to my Obamacare Tax Cut, since I already have medical insurance.
Yep, Obama’s tax cut sure is a good thing.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
8:57 am
I am sure you will be voting for Obama but at least I can go to bed on election night knowing your vote was not counted in Georgia. All 16 votes from Georgia will be cast for Romney.
Whatever helps you sleep at night. I can’t wait to see your reaction on the morning after election night
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
July 6th, 2012
8:57 am
What’s Oblamer’s jobs czar get paid for again? Shipping jobs to China? It’s kinda funny, you want to blame the Repubs for the low numbers, yet if they were better y’all would give your boy credit. Love that deflection commies.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:57 am
they only sell in bulk to straw buyers who had the Dept of Justice block the background checks…
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/07/03/fast-and-furious-follow-up-the-atf-and-gun-stores/
gotta go produce. Later, maybe…
Adam
July 6th, 2012
8:58 am
when we need 250k – 300k generated a month just to keep our heads above water…
In September you’ll be saying we need 500k
bman
July 6th, 2012
8:58 am
The employment situation is not going to get any better before election day (that’s my guess).
Proud to be me
July 6th, 2012
8:58 am
This is an example of you can’t believe everything you read! Oh the tales that Jay (and other liberals) weave!
JohnnyReb
July 6th, 2012
8:58 am
Adam – your champion is giving speeches stating manufacturing jobs are returning. Just where would that be?
Apparently, for Obama getting elected is more important than the truth
Don’t you get tired of defending such a complete fraud?
Aquagirl
July 6th, 2012
8:58 am
at least I can go to bed on election night knowing your vote was not counted in Georgia. All 16 votes from Georgia will be cast for Romney.
So td, how’d you feel in 2008 when Georgia wasted its electoral votes for the loser? And how will you feel if our 16 votes are wasted again?
td
July 6th, 2012
8:59 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 6th, 2012
8:56 am
Is this the Hope and Change we were looking for 4 years ago?
Well now, first let’s be honest, you were not looking for Hope and Change….you were part of the Party First group….. and your conned friends continue to use every tactic possible to block hope and change. Thankfully we continue to fight for it.
Two years of a Congress with the numbers that no President, since FDR, has had and we still have less jobs in the country today then we had the day Obama took office. No way you can blame the Republicans for this mess.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
8:59 am
The employment situation is not going to get any better before election day (that’s my guess).
our Captains of Industry might relent in October if RCP and Rassy admit it’ll be an Obama blowout. otherwise, yeah.
/drive-by
Right Thinker
July 6th, 2012
8:59 am
Government control of the economy is not working. The Obama mantra focuses on the Fed Govt controlling the economy, yet that formula has never worked. It is a dismal, overwhel ing failure. On top of the continuing failure of the economy to recover, we face the largest increase in taxes in the nation’s history effective Jan 1. Jan 1 the current tax rates expire for EVERYONE. Income taxes reset to higher rates, Capital Gains taxes increase, Death/Estate Taxes and rates reset to a minimal estate with nearly a 50% rate, then the ObamaCare Taxes begin. If you think the economy is bad now, and it most certainly is terrible, 2013 will be worse.
VP Joe Biden mentioned recently we were in a Depression, he’s right we are seeing the Obama Depression – higher taxes, increased government, expanding government giveaway programs, a record 8.8 million on Soc Security Disability, 38 million on Food Stamps, the lowest percentage of employable persons working in history. Yet some want to re-elect this mistake? Amazing!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
9:00 am
JohnnyReb
July 6th, 2012
8:53 am
The largest employers are not Wall Street, not “industry,” instead it is small businesses. Employment started contractiing as soon as it was obvious Obama would likely be president. It will stay contracted as long as he and liberals are in control.
Now that’s some logic we can have fun with.
We are told repeatedly that “Obama is Over”…so business now is aware that obviously Romney will be the next president and jobs are …..
…..contracting.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:00 am
Don’t you get tired of defending such a complete fraud?
Come now, you know that I should be asking YOU that question. So nice try at projection.
td
July 6th, 2012
9:00 am
Aquagirl
July 6th, 2012
8:58 am
at least I can go to bed on election night knowing your vote was not counted in Georgia. All 16 votes from Georgia will be cast for Romney.
So td, how’d you feel in 2008 when Georgia wasted its electoral votes for the loser? And how will you feel if our 16 votes are wasted again?
My vote and Georgia’s vote may be wasted but it will be counted, unlike your Obama vote in Georgia will not even be counted.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
9:01 am
M. Mark — “when we need 250k – 300k generated a month just to keep our heads above water…..well, you guys just keep spinning for a few more months, please…..jeeze…..”
Before you go flinging that around, you should probably go check the Bureau of Labor Statistics and see how many months we reached that level in President Bush’s administration.
I believe you will be QUITE dismayed by what you find.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:01 am
Government control of the economy is not working.
It’s not even being tried!
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 6th, 2012
9:01 am
“Employment started contractiing as soon as it was obvious Obama would likely be president!”
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight … the small businessman knew that the jig was up in July 2007 …
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:01 am
My vote and Georgia’s vote may be wasted but it will be counted, unlike your Obama vote in Georgia will not even be counted.
Classic Republican “don’t vote” talk.
markie mark
July 6th, 2012
9:02 am
“In September 2011, he told the Los Angeles Times that he was directed by ATF to sell guns — as many as possible, regardless of the legality, and that selling so many guns made him feel “horrible and sick.” This contention is the second element that backs the claim that the ATF encouraged gun dealers to sell to traffickers.”
Stands, this is the version that I have read, as reported by others…..your posting of the CNN article is the first I have seen to refute this….I will attempt to find other sources to back this article (only one I have seen of about 6 or 8 other articles I have read that take the other side of this argument. If I am reading and posting false information, I apologize in advance. But the weight of what I have seen reported is not the same as this article….
Rightwing Troll
July 6th, 2012
9:02 am
“The employment situation is not going to get any better before election day (that’s my guess).”
And long after that. (you left that part out…)
I see another of our conned brethren cheering that all of GA’s 16 electoral votes WILL go to Romney, and he is correct…
That’s GA for you, last in every list you don’t want to be last in and first in most lists you don’t want to be first in, and steadfast in the belief that it should remain so…
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
9:03 am
R. Thinker — if you were a product one could buy in a store, the Federal Trade Commission would sue you for false advertising.
Jm
July 6th, 2012
9:03 am
CNN: unemployment rate including discouraged workers: 15%
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
9:04 am
My vote damn well better be counted.
No matter who takes GA.
Anybody who says or acts otherwise may have to have a meeting with the DOJ.
markie mark
July 6th, 2012
9:04 am
Joe,. I know this is hard for your….but BUSH ISNT IN OFFICE ANYMORE. Any arguments you have about what bush did, died when he left office. I dont care if Bush created 10 million or 10 jobs. I am referring to what we need today. So the current job numbers on jobs created are horrible compared to what is needed.
JohnnyReb
July 6th, 2012
9:04 am
Hi Granny – there is still too much uncertainty, and great concern that Obama will win. After all, Romney is not running just against Obama. He has to fight almost all media, hollywood, and the uniformed. If/when it becomes clear Obama is out, things will start getting better immediately.
Martin the Calvinist
July 6th, 2012
9:04 am
These numbers will be adjusted down next month……
markie mark
July 6th, 2012
9:05 am
sorry, that should have read “hard for you”
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
9:05 am
Jm — “CNN: unemployment rate including discouraged workers: 15%”
Surely that’s impossible, given all the jobs that Romney and Bail Capital created all by themselves.
td
July 6th, 2012
9:05 am
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:01 am
Government control of the economy is not working.
It’s not even being tried!
Really? Now tell us how 14,000 pages of rules and regulations for all healthcare in this country is not control of 20% of the economy?
TaxPayer
July 6th, 2012
9:05 am
Don’t ask for links and proof – think of it similar to the Farmers Almanac.
Allow me to help you out with a link.
Care to discuss how your claim, JohnnyReb, “fits” with reality.
The Ghost of Edward R. Murrow
July 6th, 2012
9:05 am
JayBama’s headline screams “80,000 New Jobs Added”
Of course, if the stats showed that 80,000 jobs had been lost, JayBama’s headline would have screamed “Bush Recession Continues”
Just another day at the AJC.
TM
July 6th, 2012
9:05 am
From the report “Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rate for blacks (14.4 percent)
edged up over the month, while the rates for adult men (7.8 percent),
adult women (7.4 percent), teenagers (23.7 percent), whites (7.4 percent),
and Hispanics (11.0 percent) showed little or no change. The jobless rate
for Asians was 6.3 percent in June (not seasonally adjusted), little changed
from a year earlier.”
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:05 am
td: Two years of a Congress with the numbers that no President, since FDR, has had and we still have less jobs in the country today then we had the day Obama took office.
Actually that’s not true. January has 31 days, we lost 800k jobs that whole month, so if you average it out and assume “day one” has any meaning, then he’s only responsible for 11 of those days, meaning responsible for only 284k of the losses. So if you take away the remaining 516,000 that we still happening under Bush, you get the following:
+33,000 since January 2009 overall
+676,000 in private sector.
So nice try.
Rightwing Troll
July 6th, 2012
9:06 am
“Yet some want to re-elect this mistake? Amazing!”
Things are certainly better now than they were after you elected your mistake not once, but twice. The hole you and W dug was deep indeed, and we’re still working our way out of it with you and your acolytes dragging your feet the whole way, yet you wish to repeat you original mistake by electing what in effect would be another W…
JohnnyReb
July 6th, 2012
9:06 am
Adam – its not who Republicans will run; its who they are running against. We don’t care that Romney does flip flops. We have one purpose – send Barry into retirement.
Moderate Line
July 6th, 2012
9:07 am
Not good, not terrible, and no surprises. Politically and economically, a continuation of the status quo, with little impact on current trajectories.
Not terrible in comparison to what? The Great Depression. These numbers are bad. Also, the trajectory has not changed but trajectory is stagnation. Our trajectory currently is job growth lower than population growth. Our population growth is about 1.5 million a year so anything under a 100,000 means we are not in a recovery. We have now had 3 months of growth under 100 thousand. The economy is not recovering. 31 straight weeks of unemployment over 8% and no end in sight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
Jm
July 6th, 2012
9:07 am
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:01 am
Government control of the economy is not working.
It’s not even being tried!
———-
I beg to differ. With obamacare approved, government now runs more than 50% of the economy
td
July 6th, 2012
9:07 am
Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
9:04 am
My vote damn well better be counted.
No matter who takes GA.
Anybody who says or acts otherwise may have to have a meeting with the DOJ.
Well you might as well call the DOJ now because the only votes that will be counted in the Presidential election from Georgia will all be cast for Romney.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:07 am
td: Really? Now tell us how 14,000 pages of rules and regulations for all healthcare in this country is not control of 20% of the economy?
Government control means that government runs it. This is not the case. If you’re going to base it on rules and regulations (OH NO, NOT THOSE) then the government has control of 100% of the economy. But that’s like saying that 92% of the jobs lost under Obama are women. It’s bogus.
Martin the Calvinist
July 6th, 2012
9:08 am
It’s been tried along Russia and the entire eastern block, as we all can see, it is a glowing example on how good a govt controlled environment helps everyone……
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:08 am
its not who Republicans will run; its who they are running against. We don’t care that Romney does flip flops. We have one purpose – send Barry into retirement.
Remind me how well that strategy worked out for John Kerry?
EJ Moosa
July 6th, 2012
9:08 am
0.87 jobs per county per day added….
Not terrible?
And it will be getting worse. Year over year corporate profits are down to 5.5% at the end of the first quarter 2012.
At the end of June 2012 they are below 3.5% year over year.
Per Bookman’s theory companies should be hiring like mad men to raise their profits.
Yet by year end we will be monthly job reports that continue to worsen.
Good luck spinning that.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 6th, 2012
9:09 am
No way you can blame the Republicans for this mess.
Yes, in your fantasy world, no way….. in reality, every way… but I am sure things like the filibuster and the election of Scott Brown are just not part of your reality just as the concept that Bush drove us into the greatest recession this country has ever faced is also not part of your “reality”…..
Senior Citizen Kane
July 6th, 2012
9:09 am
Nice job, Barry!!
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:09 am
CNN: unemployment rate including discouraged workers: 15%
Actually it’s 14.9%, down from 17.1% at its peak. But don’t let facts get in the way of poutrage.
Do I need to give you MORE evidence that CNN is conservative media?
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
9:10 am
M. Mark — “Joe,. I know this is hard for your….but BUSH ISNT IN OFFICE ANYMORE.”
I know this is hard for conservatives to hear, but when you blame Obama for the EXACT SAME THINGS that went on during the Bush Administration, we tune you right out. Your complaints ring hollow and your honesty and credibility come into question.
“Any arguments you have about what bush did, died when he left office.”
Well, that’s a patently stupid argument. All the griping I see about Obama’s $5T in deficit spending, yet when we bring up Bush’s $5T in deficit spending, we hear ‘oh, that doesn’t count.”
It’s the intellectual dishonesty of people like you that soured me on the Republican Party after 20 years of voting with them.
“I dont care if Bush created 10 million or 10 jobs.”
I know you don’t. Because facts screw your rant up. When someone demonstrates that Bush was just as lousy as Obama for job creation (something I have said here MANY TIMES), y’all just can’t bring yourselves to be honest about it.
Smarten yourself up, Marky. Read the BLS stats and pick them apart. Or ask for help and I’ll show you what I’m talking about. But BOTH Bush and Obama suck for job creation, and acting like only one deserves obloquy for it, as you’re doing, is dishonest and naive. And I suspect you’re a better person than that.
“I am referring to what we need today. So the current job numbers on jobs created are horrible compared to what is needed.”
Cowardice. Moral cowardice. Well done, Marky.
RB from Gwinnett
July 6th, 2012
9:10 am
The degree to which you liberals will spin lousy news to protect Obama is just pathetic. This report is a disaster for all of us. It indicates the already slow recovery has stalled.
But you just go on kissing his arse and he’ll keep blaming Bush and pretty much anybody else he can deflect blame to.
Geez. Remember when men of honor held that office and had the guts to proclaim “the buck stops here!” and meant it? Regardless of party. Man up or move on already.
ty webb
July 6th, 2012
9:12 am
actually, it is “terrible”…and nothing ends a week long “obamacare” circle jerk like a terrible jobs report…sorry guys, but at least Osama is still dead.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
9:13 am
td
Really?
Do you mean all votes will be counted and a winner declared and the elctoral votes thereby awarded?
Or
Are you aware of some scheme whereby no votes for President Obama
will be talleyed?
And
Do you know the difference?
Lord Help Us
July 6th, 2012
9:13 am
‘ Remember when men of honor held that office and had the guts to proclaim “the buck stops here!” and meant it?’
I do not think Romney is your guy…
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:13 am
Geez. Remember when men of honor held that office and had the guts to proclaim “the buck stops here!” and meant it? Regardless of party. Man up or move on already.
That might hold more water if your current candidate would own up to anything he said ever. Obama HAS owned up to much of what he has said, and yet you guys ignore that and focus only on the stuff he hasn’t, OR you ignore it when he owns up. Like that whole deficits and unpatriotic thing, when Obama has repeatedly said he made a mistake in opposing the debt ceiling increase the one time he voted against it.
Aquagirl
July 6th, 2012
9:13 am
My vote and Georgia’s vote may be wasted but it will be counted, unlike your Obama vote in Georgia will not even be counted.
Ooooh…you can stand proudly with the folks who voted for William Wirt and Winfield Scott. If that makes you feel validated, puff your chest out and parade around like a peacock with half its tail feathers. We’ll take a picture to capture the moment.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
9:14 am
RB — “Geez. Remember when men of honor held that office and had the guts to proclaim “the buck stops here!” and meant it?”
Well, you sure won’t get that from someone like Romney.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:15 am
JHM: Well, you sure won’t get that from someone like Romney.
Heh. Third person to mention something like this. He sure set himself up for that didn’t he?
carlosgvv
July 6th, 2012
9:16 am
It is true that unemployment figures have been bad during Obama’s term. What’s really funny, in a pathetic sort of way, is how many of you cons actually believe things will get better under Romney. You just don’t have either the intellect or education to know that this problem is extremly complex and it’s causes go far beyond the White House.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
9:17 am
Adam — “Heh. Third person to mention something like this. He sure set himself up for that didn’t he?”
The only man-jack in the entire Republican field who even approaches being a straight shooter was Buddy Roemer, and his candidacy was over before it even started.
Ron Paul’s folksy style appeals to me, but he hangs out with too many extremists and nutcases for me to call him a straight shooter.
Lord Help Us
July 6th, 2012
9:17 am
I think RB got a little ahead of himself. Perhaps it was giddiness at the jobs number…
A dad
July 6th, 2012
9:17 am
Wow. Congratulations on quite the attempt at spinning yet another dismal failure but the current administration into something “nice.” Hoever, for the same story in a slightly different light, go to
msn.com and click on the article about “only 80k jobs created in last quarter”. You’ll get a much mroe accurate picture of how badly the economy is doing under Obama’s watch. Huh? What’s that? A little louder please. Oh, Of course. It’s Bush’s fault. Gotcha.
Jm
July 6th, 2012
9:18 am
Sen Rob Portman op-Ed, good read
http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2012/07/obamas_policies_are_stifling_t.html
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:18 am
What’s really funny, in a pathetic sort of way, is how many of you cons actually believe things will get better under Romney. You just don’t have either the intellect or education to know that this problem is extremly complex and it’s causes go far beyond the White House.
LIRBUL! LIBRUUUUUUULLLLL!
Also TAX! TAX!
“I see you ridin round town with the congressman I love and I’m like TAX youuuuuuuuu…..”
TM
July 6th, 2012
9:19 am
“You just don’t have either the intellect or education to know that this problem is extremely complex and it’s causes go far beyond the White House.” Apparently neither does Obama.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:19 am
Huh? What’s that? A little louder please. Oh, Of course. It’s Bush’s fault. Gotcha.
2 pages and I’ve only seen conservatives make that case.
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
9:20 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXz5ZDrzX-w
Where is the plan Isakson? Jay, if you ever get a chance, I wish you’d grill that SOB on his “plan” until he bleeds from the eyes.
Johnson
July 6th, 2012
9:21 am
Ok? Me no think so – weakest 3 month average in over 2 years
Senior Citizen Kane
July 6th, 2012
9:21 am
Obama should thank James Buchanan daily for keeping him out of the cellar.
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
9:21 am
President Trillions campaign slogan: Think not what you can do for your country, think what your country can give to you….
Mitt Romney: I’m not the man I used to be…I promise..
Wonderful choices..
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
9:21 am
A dad — “Huh? What’s that? A little louder please. Oh, Of course. It’s Bush’s fault. Gotcha.”
If you had any honesty left in you, you’d admit that no liberal here said any such thing.
cloudodust
July 6th, 2012
9:22 am
Job reports and the revolving status thereof reminds me of the old adage, ‘Money in, money out’….
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:22 am
“TAX youuuuu and uh…. TAX her tooooo and….”
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:23 am
“If I was richahhhhh my rate would be lowahhhhhh…. ain’t that some sh*t…”
tiredofIT
July 6th, 2012
9:24 am
We don’t need free trade, we need FAIR TRADE. Bring back tariffs! Why do you think a Jeep costs $189,750 in China; Tariffs on our products.
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
9:25 am
Whats the plan Republicans? The damage was done during President Amnesia’s term. Surely you have a plan to bring back jobs that were outsourced. A plan to bring manufacturing jobs back from China. A plan to create jobs that were lost to mergermania. A plan to bring back jobs lost to technology gains. A plan to bring back all the lost government jobs you hate.
Whats the plan?????
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
9:25 am
Don’t ask for links and proof – think of it similar to the Farmers Almanac.
More like the Farmer’s Fertilizer…
—————————–
they only sell in bulk to straw buyers who had the Dept of Justice block the background checks
Background checks wouldn’t matter if there is no crime being committed and the person isn’t a convicted felon. The straw purchases are still legal in Arizona. Why haven’t Arizona lawmakers changed the laws that allowed straw purchases of guns that led to the death of BP Agent Terry?
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
9:25 am
TM,
I agree that all economic problems go far, far beyond the white house et al…when they are right they are right when they are wrong they are right….all this political rhetoric about government’s ability to have material impact on the economy is hubris IMO…
Spending well beyond our means is clearly not the thing to do…we can’t afford failed stimulus or this particular healthcare bill…
If your outflows exceed your inflows, your upkeep will be your downfall….
bman
July 6th, 2012
9:26 am
“2 pages and I’ve only seen conservatives make that case.”
You will hear Obama say the same thing.
Steve Atl
July 6th, 2012
9:26 am
Still over 8.0%…that sucks!!
Steve Atl
July 6th, 2012
9:28 am
More taxes on the way to “stimulate” the economy….
East Lake Ira
July 6th, 2012
9:28 am
td
July 6th, 2012
8:59 am
Liar.
Try seven weeks with Kennedy on his deathbed – only 59 votes at that point. Nineteen weeks with Kirk before GQ boy was elected.
JDW
July 6th, 2012
9:29 am
@td…”Is this the Hope and Change we were looking for 4 years ago?”
The Change is that now we add 80,000 jobs a month instead of losing 750,000.
The Hope is that some of the Tea Partiers will get unelected and the Do Nothing Congress will actually Do Something to stimulate the economy.
RB from Gwinnett
July 6th, 2012
9:30 am
Keep the Chapstick handy, Adam. You don’t want Obama’s butt getting chapped.
Pucker up!!
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
9:30 am
DANNYX
Good question…If I were GOP, I’d simply state that our intent is to stop the bleeding….Sans making business dedicated to the state versus shareholders and practicing economic isolationism per trade, there is nothing government can do to get us out of any cyclical downturn…President Trillions Robin Hood approach is at best, neutral to the economy and at worst, making us economically weaker than when he came to power..
Steve Atl
July 6th, 2012
9:30 am
Housing market is in the tank….
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
9:30 am
If you had any honesty left in you
JHM
I hope you realize that you jumped the shark with that statement right there…
TM
July 6th, 2012
9:31 am
“If your outflows exceed your inflows, your upkeep will be your downfall….” Don’t worry come Jan 1 when the all of the Bush tax cuts expire and the 2% Social security tax reduction expires all will be good==at least that is what we are told.
Steve Atl
July 6th, 2012
9:31 am
Egypt and Libya are now controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood….
Steve Atl
July 6th, 2012
9:31 am
Obamacare is a TAX…Obama and Carney are in full spin control.
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
9:32 am
Gas prices are now at $6 a gallon.
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
July 6th, 2012
9:33 am
Would need 350,000 to 400,000 per month for the next four or five years to get back everything the Supreme Leader has lost. President Kardashian’s plans are right on track.
Steve Atl
July 6th, 2012
9:33 am
Gas prices coming down…but Obama doesn’t control that according to the Almighty Intellect…Adam.
cloudodust
July 6th, 2012
9:33 am
DannyX : Regarding the history of outsourcing, you’re forgeting the name Bill Clinton
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
9:33 am
there is nothing government can do to get us out of any cyclical downturn…
Based on previous cycles, if this were just a cyclical downturn, wouldn’t businesses already be pushing upward?
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
9:33 am
JDW,
I’d say the change is the geometric rise in the deficit and show stopping commitment of money we haven’t made yet. The HOPE for your pal Obama is that he can continue the facade that he actually had anything to do with anything you mentioned above except perhaps putting hiring on hold….
Steve Atl
July 6th, 2012
9:33 am
Many of us have lost a significant portion of our retirement savings…
Steve Atl
July 6th, 2012
9:34 am
Our National Debt is beyond control at this point and Obama looks to keep adding to it.
JDW
July 6th, 2012
9:34 am
@markie…”Joe,. I know this is hard for your….but BUSH ISNT IN OFFICE ANYMORE. Any arguments you have about what bush did, died when he left office. ”
You are right it is no longer about what he did…its about what he LEFT and making sure NO ONE EVERY DOES THAT AGAIN…ahem Romney for example.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:35 am
Steve Atl: Gas prices coming down…but Obama doesn’t control that according to the Almighty Intellect…Adam.
You’re learning something! Congrats!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 6th, 2012
9:35 am
Well, at least that’s 80,000 lazy bums that won’t be on the dole and robbing my paycheck. Now if we could lay off about 500,000 guvmint workers we’d have some real job growth—maybe even get up to 100,000 a month.
Hauling and lugging, hauling and lugging. I just hate Fridays.
Steve Atl
July 6th, 2012
9:35 am
Obama has been a Divider for the American people versus the Bridge Builder he promised.
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
9:35 am
“you’re forgeting the name Bill Clinton”
Lol! Our last president is a four letter word that can’t ever be brought up, but Clinton is fair game!
TM
July 6th, 2012
9:35 am
In what really matters the Fed and Djo split the first two sets and are tied 3 all in the third
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
July 6th, 2012
9:35 am
I am sure you will be voting for Obama but at least I can go to bed on election night knowing your vote was not counted in Georgia. All 16 votes from Georgia will be cast for Romney.
Yes an Georgia ranks around the mid-40’s in education level.
Coincidence. Nope.
Oscar
July 6th, 2012
9:36 am
A plus number is better that a negative number.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:36 am
The only reason you guys keep wanting Obama not to blame Bush is because you’ve puckered up yourselves. Luckily, the majority of Americans understand EXACTLY what got us into this mess:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/232719-poll-most-americans-blame-bush-for-poor-economy
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
9:36 am
“Bridge Builder”
No Republicans tried to build bridges. Bridges to Nowhere.
Steve Atl
July 6th, 2012
9:36 am
Obama vehemently supports Tim “Tax Cheat” Geithner and Eric “Above the Law” Holder….
Mark in mid-town
July 6th, 2012
9:38 am
Not terrible? Who are you kidding? The new job numbers for this stage of the economic cycle were absolutely atrocious. They’re about 50,000 short of just keeping pace with population growth. And from such a high baseline of unemployed workers and low workforce partipation rate, a healthy economy should be creating anywhere from 300,000 – 400,000 new jobs each month for a few years on end.
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
9:38 am
BRO,
Nope…not with so much uncertainty given the rising cost of doing business here….The banks still won’t lend…heck, we could have paid off a ton of mortgages for all the wasted cash we threw at the source of that particular debacle…Banks freeing up cash will stimulate demand, which will stimulate all these manufacturers et al to invest the hoards of cash they currently maintain…
We continue to waste trillions of dollars without improving a thing which makes us weak. Of course, if someone could provide 3 million W-2’s as evidence of saved jobs and created jobs, I would change my tune…
Steve Atl
July 6th, 2012
9:38 am
Adam – I do not judge anyone…just because you live in a tent downtown does not mean you are not capable of making a decent point.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:38 am
Romney supports the Ryan plan, which DIVIDES the nation between the haves and the have nots.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:39 am
Romney supports repealing Obamacare, which would DIVIDE the nation between those who have health care and those who never will (under his plan).
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
9:39 am
Tax you….and the horse you rode in on
~ Thomas Jefferson
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
9:39 am
Reading this stuff has knocked about 10 points off my IQ. I’ll leave Jay to his “Jackassery Games”. I can waste time in much better ways than reading this crap…
Y’all have fun.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:40 am
I do not judge anyone…just because you live in a tent downtown
uh huh.
East Lake Ira
July 6th, 2012
9:40 am
What we really need in $1B+ in Stimulus but you cons just don’t get it.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
July 6th, 2012
9:40 am
Me and my business are doing just fine.
Why do republicans always blame the government for all their problems ?
Take some personal responsibility.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:41 am
Why do republicans always blame the government for all their problems ?
Take some personal responsibility.
THIS
Jm
July 6th, 2012
9:41 am
Steve Atl
Obama is a spineless democrat politician
But I’m being redundant….
Jay
July 6th, 2012
9:41 am
Updated with jobs chart above.
JDW
July 6th, 2012
9:43 am
@Stevie Ray…”I’d say the change is the geometric rise in the deficit and show stopping commitment of money we haven’t made yet. ”
Of course even McCain’s Top Campaign Adviser says Record Deficits Would Have Happened Under McCain, Too
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/01/mccains-top-campaign-advi_n_444458.html
But please don’t let any facts get in the way of that Republican Fantasy life you got going on.
stands for decibels
July 6th, 2012
9:44 am
your posting of the CNN article is the first I have seen to refute this…
markie @ 9.02, if it makes any difference, that was a link to a Fortune magazine article, not to CNN.
If I am reading and posting false information, I apologize in advance.
No need, but I appreciate the modesty.
I think you’ll find that once the original Fortune investigative piece (you really should read it), a lot of the wind was taken out of the sails of that Issa investigation, and it’s also made a lot of people who were inclined to think the worst of the ATF to re-evaluate their presumptions.
/drive-by
JohnnyReb
July 6th, 2012
9:45 am
Moonbats have an explanation with chart for almost all of Obama’s failures. To the contrary, small business has been almost destroyed by the receission, yet TaxPayer provides a chart with text that claims private sector employment is consistent with past receissions.
Forget the chart, open your eyes. Drive around and look at all the small businesses who have gone out of business.
Until the Left drops their constant companion “denial,” there will be no truthful debate or real improvement. That goes for National politics and this blog.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
9:46 am
Brosephus — “I hope you realize that you jumped the shark with that statement right there…”
It’s my hope that a few conservatives still actually have some principles, and that they’ll recognize when they’re being asked to put aside truth and honesty in order to raise the party’s banner.
Gator Joe
July 6th, 2012
9:46 am
Jay:
The jobs number of 80k is “disappointing”, that is disappointing for the bigots, racists, and assorted Obama-hating clowns on the Right. They would prefer job losses to strengthen their cause. Where were these people, and their noise, during the months of job losses during Bush/Cheney?
I’ve said it before, if McCain would have been elected and the job numbers were as they are now (the probably would have been worse), the Right would have been chanting, “He’s doing the best he can, considering the mess he inherited.”
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
9:47 am
Stevie Ray
And when attempts were made to tighten down on the banks, who stopped that? If banks aren’t lending and hiring sucks, where are we going to get the necessary money to inject into the economy to stimulate demand? Do you think the companies who are just sitting on cash reserves are going to suddenly feel bad and give money away or something? Who else, other than the government, has the ability to inject the necessary money into the system to spur demand?
The whole talk about government stimulus is bullsh*t. The initial stimulus was watered down by the Grand Objectionist Party if I remember correctly. The crap that came from DC was barely enough to stop the job loss. If I had my way, TARP funds would have went directly to taxpayers for the purpose of paying mortgages. That way, the people would have still had their homes, we could have stemmed the foreclosures, banks would have fewer toxic mortgages on their books, and the banks would have still ended up with the money anyway. As to the stimulus, it would have been a $2 Trillion fund for infrastructure only. I would have not given the money to the states to pass out to cut down on shenanigans.
However, I’m simply a peon in the grand scheme of things, so my ideas and viewpoints don’t amount to jack sh*t.
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
9:47 am
JDW,
I agree McCain would fare not better that President Trillions except I don’t think he would have allowed deficit to meteorically explode.
Erwin's cat
July 6th, 2012
9:48 am
80k…now that’s what i call “in-sourcing”
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
9:48 am
JAY,
Can you go back another 30 years of so on your graph?
Jm
July 6th, 2012
9:48 am
Who is gonna be the VP pick?…… Hmmmm
Jefferson
July 6th, 2012
9:48 am
Still improvements over the last 3.5 years, cannot be denied. Its hard to get ahead when you start in a hole, I mean canyon.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
9:48 am
J. Reb — “Forget the chart, open your eyes. Drive around and look at all the small businesses who have gone out of business.”
(raises hand)
Mr. Reb, how can we tell which ones went out of business because of the Republicans and which ones went out of business because of the Democrats?
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
9:48 am
It’s my hope that a few conservatives still actually have some principles, and that they’ll recognize when they’re being asked to put aside truth and honesty in order to raise the party’s banner.
I think you’ll have a much better chance at teaching English to a cinder block wall.
Jm
July 6th, 2012
9:49 am
Bobby jindal lost that big LA drawl
GT
July 6th, 2012
9:50 am
I wonder if Republicans will ever feel the highs they feel right now with a failing economy. If they are elected depression will set in or easy credit that covers their lies which somewhere in their makeup you hope does not give them the euphoria they feel right now. These are heady times for people who live off failure for their livings, enjoy your failure GOP it won’t be this way forever.
TM
July 6th, 2012
9:50 am
This must be the chart the President was shown when he said the private sector is “doing fine”
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
9:52 am
Brosephus — “If I had my way, TARP funds would have went directly to taxpayers for the purpose of paying mortgages. That way, the people would have still had their homes, we could have stemmed the foreclosures, banks would have fewer toxic mortgages on their books, and the banks would have still ended up with the money anyway.”
Abso Fecking LUTELY. I said the same thing myself at the time.
Bail out the homeowners and require the banks to renegotiate a workable mortgage, with the banks owing money back to the Fed. That way, homeowners get saved, banks get saved and the taxpayers get bailout money repaid over time.
Instead, banks got saved and we got screwed. At one point, Bank of America’s market cap was LESS than what we had lent them, but they were gladly hosing their customers. Seems to me they should have been kissing our collective hiney, not looking for ways to extract more cash from us.
Jay
July 6th, 2012
9:52 am
Stevie Ray, go here — http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/PAYEMS/ — click “Edit Graph” and you can get any time frame you wish.
tiredofIT
July 6th, 2012
9:53 am
“Who is gonna be the VP pick?…… Hmmmm” I betting on his third wife.
ragnar danneskjold
July 6th, 2012
9:53 am
And so the anemic recovery continues. ObamaCare, and its new expenses for employers, is the largest wet blanket smothering jobs growth.
Senior Citizen Kane
July 6th, 2012
9:53 am
Obama: “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
So who do y’all think the Democrats will nominate?
Welcome to the Occupation
July 6th, 2012
9:54 am
The jobs report: the “worst-possible scenario” i.e. Fed will keep sitting on its hands.
In other words, Krugman is right: this is a disaster. And the real disaster is that we’ve come to accept this hopeless situation under a rotted capitalism that can no longer generate jobs as normal.
http://www.businessinsider.com/gold-falls-after-june-jobs-report-2012-7?utm_source=twbutton&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=moneygame
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
9:55 am
BRO,
So your answer is to spend 2 trillion instead of 1 trillion that we don’t have? Where were all those shovel ready jobs…and no, businesses rely on cash flow, R&D, and capital improvements in addition to demand….the large banks should have been broken up and returned to rules of Glass Stegall…….No businesses, GE being good example, are not betrothen to the good of the people…Gov’t being only one who can pour that much money into economy is poor argument in my book as no evidence, beyond a reasaonble doubt, exists to validate efficacy.
Agreed on states thingy…I’d be all for a stimulus that took advantage of “shovel ready” jobs but for various reasons not the least of which is the EPA’s tough standards, the timing on BO’s package oouldn’t have been worse.
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
9:55 am
Republicans vow to fix the job market was quickly aborted, “Jobs, jobs, jobs,” turned into “Abortion, abortion, abortion.”
Tundra Dude
July 6th, 2012
9:55 am
Welp, Romney IS all about jobs …just not American jobs …
Exactly. He’s already picked 2 econ advisors from the Bush team. Both are big believers in outsourcing jobs.
I’m not one of them thar economilists, but I guess they know what they’re doing. The way to prosperity is to
Outsource our GDP
Outsource our tax base
Outsource those pesky good-paying jobs
Yep, the Cayman Islands rep is the Man with the Plan!
tiredofIT
July 6th, 2012
9:55 am
TM: I take the gaff of saying “doing fine” over brain that came up with
“I’m not familiar precisely with what I said, but I’ll stand by what I said, whatever it was”
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
9:55 am
R. Danneskjold — “And so the anemic recovery continues. ObamaCare, and its new expenses for employers, is the largest wet blanket smothering jobs growth.”
Single-payer would have solved that problem overnight. Too bad y’all didn’t want it.
Mark in mid-town
July 6th, 2012
9:56 am
As bad as the 80,000 new jobs number is, and it’s pretty bad — it should also be pointed out that the only reason it’s 80,000 is due to adjustments made by the government using it birth-death model. They approximate the amount of jobs gained through new businesses created too recently to be counted in the formal survey and that estimation added 124,000 positions. Without that estimation, the total count would have been a loss of 44,000. Based on the history of the past few years, it’s more likely than not that the birth-death model is overestimating the number of new jobs not yet counted in the formal survey, and that these numbers will later be adjusted many months down the road when adjustments are made to prior year’s data.
Welcome to the Occupation
July 6th, 2012
9:56 am
This real disaster is not so much the devastation wrought by a hopelessly broken and injust economic situation. It’s that we really don’t even bother being outraged by it. To be outraged might require actually having an idea or two – which we don’t.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
9:56 am
S. Ray — “Where were all those shovel ready jobs…”
Don’t make us debunk this again. The last person to bring it up was horrendously embarrassed by about a dozen lefty posters who gladly SHOWED him where they were.
Donovan
July 6th, 2012
9:57 am
Jay Bookman barely chums the water with his vanilla commentary and his little sharks still have a feeding frenzy.
Ok boys and girls. It’s time to get out of your jammies and go to work instead of hanging around all day long like Occupy types carping and moaning. Ain’t got no work? Take it up (carp & moan) with your elected leader. Your voices won’t be heard? That’s right…he’s on a bus ride telling you all that everything is ok and he is available for more fund raising.
Quite a magical mystery tour we have been on since you all elected this community organizer. How’s that Hope & Change jingle working out for you?
getalife
July 6th, 2012
9:57 am
How long will this slow job growth last from the w collapse?
A decade?
Anyhoo, is it okay to talk about w or has the we are better than that crowd banned it?
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
9:57 am
“As bad as the 80,000 new jobs number is, and it’s pretty bad”
No, 750,000 is pretty bad.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
9:58 am
TM: This must be the chart the President was shown when he said the private sector is “doing fine”
Or maybe it’s a chart made up of these numbers:
Private sector:
January 2009: 110,985,000
February 2009: 110,260,000
June 2012: 111,145,000
Compared to January 2009: +160,000
Compared to February 2009: +885,000
Almost a million private sector jobs added since February 2009.
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
9:59 am
“As bad as the 80,000 new jobs number is, and it’s pretty bad”
No, 750,000 is pretty bad.”
750,000 LOST that is.
barking frog
July 6th, 2012
10:00 am
8% unemployment is the
new norm. get over it.
flea markets flourish.
food carts are everywhere.
goodwill and thrift stores
are thriving. the underground economy is
healthy. Forward.
tiredofIT
July 6th, 2012
10:00 am
What is up with all of the new construction in Gwinnett near Lawrenceville? I guess they don’t know how bad things are?
Adam
July 6th, 2012
10:00 am
Obama: “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
And since you guys listen to Obama on EVERYTHING ELSE that he says, this one must also ring true to you
ty webb
July 6th, 2012
10:01 am
give Jay a little credit for even broaching this subject…he could’ve just thrown up a “global warming” post in light of such dismal news.
EJ Moosa
July 6th, 2012
10:01 am
Thanks for the chart. It clearly demonstrates that this administration has no shot at getting to the employment levels of the previous administration.
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
10:01 am
JAY,
Thanks for the interesting data…I’m guessing given our indebtedness and what’s happening in Europe, we are looking at another (double dip) recession in the next few years…I’d hate to be occupying the Oval Office when that occurs….No amount of government spending or revenue raising will prevent this….
TM
July 6th, 2012
10:02 am
“Almost a million private sector jobs added since February 2009.” WOW REALLY GREAT JOB.
“A measure of unemployment that includes discouraged workers ticked higher to 14.9 percent, its highest level since February, while the labor force participation rate stayed near a 30-year low at 63.8 percent.”
Jm
July 6th, 2012
10:02 am
“capitalism that can no longer generate jobs as normal.”
Wonder why that is? Obviously nothing to do with government policies…. /sarc/
Welcome to the Occupation
July 6th, 2012
10:03 am
Quite a magical mystery tour we have been on since you all elected this community organizer. How’s that Hope & Change jingle working out for you?
Hope and change? Are you kidding me? Those words will go down as one of the truly cruel jokes of all political history.
But if you REALLY want to see “hope and change”, just wait for a Romney administration where foreign policy realigns back to pure neocon extremism and corporate crony capitalism is the order of the day for everything else.
In other words, on balance, not really that much different from what we have right now.
And THAT is your broken “electoral” process gets for you.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
10:03 am
“If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
Have you any idea what the word proposition means?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
July 6th, 2012
10:03 am
Another meltdown by Joey Walsh…
Aquagirl
July 6th, 2012
10:04 am
If you voted for the guy who presided over job losses upwards of 200,000, why would anyone take your carping seriously? I don’t take car-buying advice from anyone who bought a Pinto either.
St Simons
July 6th, 2012
10:04 am
If I were a con (upchuck), I would want Obama to succeed. Here’s why-
My grandfather, up until his passing in ‘99, still referred to what you
call the Great Depression as “them Hoover Days.”
If he doesn’t, most people will blame you, cons.
No one alive today, no one, will forget the utter debacle that was
Little Nero with a Cowboy Hat. And if you want more of that invisible
hand of supply-side jaysus glorah, and more yellow stuff that aint gold
tricklin down on you, just vote for the rich white guy with the plastic
smile and the hairgel.
Jm
July 6th, 2012
10:04 am
If Romney wins it means the following:
1. People put jobs as #1
2. The voters were super sick of Obama
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
10:04 am
ADAM,
Can you back up your allegation that government spending had anything to do with this increase? Love to see all the W-2’s generated by spending…also, 8.2% pales incomparison to those who stopped looking for work or otherwise are underemployed….(I’m sitting in Starbucks as we speak…)
Welcome to the Occupation
July 6th, 2012
10:05 am
Jm: “Wonder why that is? Obviously nothing to do with government policies…. /sarc/”
Well, as Keynes understood as well as anyone, capitalism has nothing to do with generating jobs — it’s just not its purpose. It only creates them very grudgingly.
That’s why it has to be FORCED to do it, with a knife to its neck. But when the beast gets to big, kind of hard to find a knife big enough.
bman
July 6th, 2012
10:06 am
Ty…Mister Bookman covers it fairly, I believe. The first 2 words on his comments are : “not good.”
Jm
July 6th, 2012
10:06 am
Romney gets the right policies. Renewal if he wins.
They BOTH suck
July 6th, 2012
10:06 am
If “ifs and buts were candy and nuts………..”
Just sayn
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
10:06 am
Aquagirl — “If you voted for the guy who presided over job losses upwards of 200,000, why would anyone take your carping seriously? I don’t take car-buying advice from anyone who bought a Pinto either.”
Agreed. At this point, taking advice from Republicans on how to fix the economy is like entrusting your stock portfolio to the homeless d00d who hangs around outside the convenience store, trying to cadge your spare change.
Lord Help Us
July 6th, 2012
10:07 am
‘f Romney wins it means the following:
1. People put jobs as #1
2. The voters were super sick of Obama’
3. Romney articulates what he will do, how it will improve this country, and voters like it better.
carlosgvv
July 6th, 2012
10:07 am
Adam – 9:18
Your lack of both intellect and intelligence is the stuff of legend here.
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
10:07 am
ST SIMONS,
Your forgot the shoe polish hair enhancement the likes of which we haven’t witnessed sin Elvis…
What exactly are you counting on your savor to deliver? Deficit reduction, lower unemployment…a chicken in every pot? Robin Hood economics at it’s finest..
Jm
July 6th, 2012
10:07 am
“It only creates them very grudgingly.”
Based on the Trotsky scientific method of course.
Eye roll. What a bunch of pablum from “welcome”
Rightwing Troll
July 6th, 2012
10:08 am
So… the wingnuts will dig in their heels and do all they can to stifle the economy and any jobs growth til November, then one of two things will happen:
Wingnuts will win, throw a hissy, and then it will be the Dems turn to dig in the heels and try to stifle any success or chance of success by the new adminstration as payback for the last 4 years…
Or….
Wingnuts will lose, throw an even bigger hissy an continue to dig their heels in deeper to stifle growth and economic recovery…
Either way wingnuts have a big hissy, and prospects for recovery are bleak…
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
10:08 am
LHU — “Romney articulates what he will do”
Let’s see him start doing that, then. Enough with the pizzing and moaning about Obama; let’s see him trot out some specifics.
East Lake Ira
July 6th, 2012
10:09 am
Mitt is worse than a supervillan.
getalife
July 6th, 2012
10:09 am
Which part of lost decade of job growth from the collapse do you not understand?
There are consequences silly.
EJ Moosa
July 6th, 2012
10:09 am
1 million private sector jobs added.
3,033 counties in the US.
41 months in office.
Jobs per county per month added: 8.04
Do you really want to try and bask in the glow of such success?
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
10:09 am
CARLOS,
When you start the namecalling and the like, you are conceding the debate…you can do better…we all have the utmost confidence in you!
Jm
July 6th, 2012
10:09 am
Wonder if people are starting to buy into global warming a bit more after all this pleasant weather…..
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
10:10 am
So your answer is to spend 2 trillion instead of 1 trillion that we don’t have?
The stimulus spent about $500 Billion. The total amount was less than $800B with 1/3 of it as tax cuts. I have no idea of where you’re getting the $1 Trillion number.
That said, you’re damn right my answer is to spend $2T on infrastructure.
http://www.accessnorthga.com/detail.php?n=237812
One in nine of the bridges and overpasses American drivers cross each day – including many in northeast Georgia – is rated in poor enough condition that they could become dangerous or be closed without near-term repair, according to a report released recently by Transportation for America.
Nearly 70,000 bridges nationwide are rated “structurally deficient” and are in need of substantial repair or replacement, according to federal data. The Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) estimates that the backlog of potentially dangerous bridges would cost $70.9 billion to eliminate, while the federal outlay for bridges amounts to slightly more than $5 billion per year.
or, if you want local context…
http://www.ajc.com/news/107-metro-atlanta-bridges-1181501.html
Every day 32,850 drivers cross Big Creek on Windward Parkway and 27,760 cross Lullwater Creek on Ponce De Leon Avenue.
What they almost certainly don’t know is that the two bridges, along with 105 others in 10 metro Atlanta counties, were rated structurally deficient, according to an analysis of the National Bridge Inventory by The Atlanta Journal Constitution.
Sixty-eight of these bridges have structural components rated poor or worse. Some won’t be repaired for years.
Now ask yourself, do you really want to risk the lives of your family or yourself driving over any of those bridges? Remember the I-35W bridge collapse in Minnesota? Do you think that was a freak accident or simply a sign of things to come if we don’t address our infrastructure? Infrastructure repair and maintenance can be done rather quick as opposed to trying to build new infrastructure. That’s why I stated infrastructure only. The $2T would be more than enough to get projects going in all 50 states and put thousands and thousands of people to work. When people work, they pay bills and spend money. You go that route, you can say F**K the banks.
TM
July 6th, 2012
10:10 am
“What exactly are you counting on your savor to deliver? Deficit reduction, lower unemployment…a chicken in every pot? Robin Hood economics at it’s finest.” — HOPE AND CHANGE.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
10:10 am
And there’s Moosa, right on time.
carlosgvv
July 6th, 2012
10:11 am
Brosephus – 9:47 – “my ideas and viewpoints don’t abount to jack sh*t”
And, until you are able to make substantial financial contributions to the politicians, especially the Republican ones, the above will continue to be etched in granite.
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
10:12 am
TROLL,
Right on! Heaven forbid a GOP controlled White House pulls a Holder hold-back or the likes….same shoe, different foot….
Private cash out of politics until such time, nothing will change….
getalife
July 6th, 2012
10:12 am
willard is fianally answering questions and chocking.
Not ready from prime time.
Ya think congress gets any blame for our economy?
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
10:12 am
3.Romney articulates what he will do, how it will improve this country, and voters like it better.
THIS!!
Adam
July 6th, 2012
10:13 am
How’s that Hope & Change jingle working out for you?
Pretty good actually. Obamacare CHANGEd and will now give HOPE to millions of Americans. Just not in red states since they want to be d*cks about the Medicaid thing.
Obama WON on Obamacare. You LOST. That law is here to stay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il1vY2IQATs
Rightwing Troll
July 6th, 2012
10:13 am
“1 million private sector jobs added.
3,033 counties in the US.
41 months in office.
Jobs per county per month added: 8.04″
Now why don’t you put your statistical acumen to use and get us the same set of data for the W years? (just for comparison sake…)
Adam
July 6th, 2012
10:14 am
Can you back up your allegation that government spending had anything to do with this increase?
Oh, so NOW you want to play the “President doesn’t control private sector” card…..
Stevie Ray
July 6th, 2012
10:14 am
TM,
Hope is not a strategy….only real change is poorly timed massive spending of money we don’t have….results sure didn’t change.
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
10:14 am
carlos
I’m screwed.
Steve
July 6th, 2012
10:15 am
Comical indeed to read all the PFC Gomer Pyle comments about Captains of Industry, like you have a flippin’ clue about anything business. If you are a democrat and thus your mascot is a donkey, then you are clearly a dumba$$$
The economy turd is stuck to the bottom of “O I’m So Great’s” boot. No amount of shucking and jiving will shake it off before election day. The stink of this administration is intensified because the boot on the neck is just below the nose.
Cue up the melody to Don McLean’s big hit…one; two; three; four:
And it’s bye, bye, failed Indonesian guy.
You promised hope and change,
but not a stick in our eye.
You got in over your head,
and then you started to lie.
Singing Jimmy Carter was a better guy,
yes Jimmy was a better guy…
Welcome to the Occupation
July 6th, 2012
10:15 am
Jm:
This may offend your sense of how the world works, but the fact that capitalism only hires workers when absolutely necessary is obviously both at the level of theory and it one simply opens one’s eyes and looks at our hypercapitalist world as it currently is.
Capitalism is about generating PROFITS, not jobs (indeed, the latter are a hindrance to the former), and then funneling those profits to investors/shareholders, whatever.
Capitalism is a turbo-charged machine for creating wealth and mostly funneling it to the already wealthy.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
10:16 am
Your lack of both intellect and intelligence is the stuff of legend here.
Legends just ain’t what they used to be….
Seriously though how much more do I have to add to a post to make it obvious when I’m being sarcastic?
Adam
July 6th, 2012
10:17 am
3.Romney articulates what he will do, how it will improve this country, and voters like it better.
THIS!!
Seconded
Welcome to the Occupation
July 6th, 2012
10:19 am
The paradox of course, Jm, about capitalism is that it is one hell of a wealth-creation machine, and that explains part of its incredible staying power. But it contains the seeds of its own destabilization, if not destruction, as there is no way to eliminate its destabilizing, excessive characteristics.
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
10:19 am
Occupation
You can tell by the postings here that many don’t have a clue about capitalism. I applaud your efforts at attempting to explain things, but you may want to go with the 5th Grade version so you don’t lose your targeted audience here.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
10:19 am
Steve — “If you are a democrat and thus your mascot is a donkey, then you are clearly a dumba$$$”
Thanks, Steve!
I always love it when a con gives me flat-out justification and reason to ignore their posts going forward. Well done!
ty webb
July 6th, 2012
10:21 am
the good news is that people who elected an empty suit with empty rhetoric, now demand a precise plan for improving the country from at least half the candidates running for President…so there’s that.
Steve - USA "None of the Above"
July 6th, 2012
10:22 am
I can’t believe people are crowing about this jobs report, how delusional can people be. It was pathetic.
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
10:23 am
Republican jobs plan: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”
Steve
July 6th, 2012
10:24 am
Yo Mama,
But I am a progressive. Ignore that dumba$$.
Talking Head
July 6th, 2012
10:24 am
So a 1/3 of the 80,000 ‘jobs’ added this month are Temporary…always a good sign of a strong economy.
EJ Moosa
July 6th, 2012
10:24 am
‘Now why don’t you put your statistical acumen to use and get us the same set of data for the W years? (just for comparison sake…)”
Because I can’t vote to take Obama out of office this November.
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
10:25 am
“I can’t believe people are crowing about this jobs report, how delusional can people be. It was pathetic.”
What is the Republican plan? They want all of their power back, there must be a plan, what is it?
EJ Moosa
July 6th, 2012
10:25 am
Because I can’t vote to take Obama out of office this November.
Of course I meant Bush. Someone I am pleased to say I never voted for,btw.
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
10:27 am
“Of course I meant Bush.”
How did you get that 4 letter word past the censor?
getalife
July 6th, 2012
10:28 am
Slow job growth vs a global economic collapse.
No brainer.
Slow job growth.
Okay, so the new rules are no lying, no drama Obama, no talking about willard’s religion and if Jay warns you to stop personal attacks, he means it.
Anything else?
Joe Hussein Mama
July 6th, 2012
10:29 am
DannyX — “What is the Republican plan? They want all of their power back, there must be a plan, what is it?”
I think it’s kind of like the plot of The Avengers. Beware the big flying metal snakey thing.
Steve - USA "None of the Above"
July 6th, 2012
10:30 am
What an total joke that chart is when you look at the numbers. So the jobs are stuck between 129,000 and 133,000 for 2 1/2 years. That chart was designed to be deceptive to the Kool-aid crowd and they are drinking it up with both hands.
Job growth has flat lined for 2 1/2 years and people think that is awesome.
Real Scootter
July 6th, 2012
10:30 am
but you may want to go with the 5th Grade version so you don’t lose your targeted audience here.
Thanks Bro! I need all the help I can get.
Adam
July 6th, 2012
10:31 am
JHM: http://weknowmemes.com/2012/05/conquer-the-earth-they-said/
Steve - USA "None of the Above"
July 6th, 2012
10:33 am
“What is the Republican plan? They want all of their power back, there must be a plan, what is it?”
I could care less what the Republican plan is. Your statement has no logic. If you see a 300 pound guy he is fat, he doesn’t become unfat because you then see a 320 pound guy.
Erwin's cat
July 6th, 2012
10:34 am
Steve, but the line goes up?
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
10:37 am
Real Scootter
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
10:38 am
down line
up line
flat line?
perception?
or lack thereof?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
10:40 am
“I could care less what the Republican plan is”
DING DING DING
BINGO
WE HAVE A WINNER.
The problem with you and yours perfectly encapsulated.
Mark in mid-town
July 6th, 2012
10:40 am
“As bad as the 80,000 new jobs number is, and it’s pretty bad”
No, 750,000 is pretty bad.”
750,000 LOST that is.
====================================
750,000 jobs lost was at the height of a severe recession. Recessions happen and are supposed to happen, even severe ones. We’re now in the recovery and have been since 2009. A severe recesion historically is followed by a correspondingly strong recovery if the policies pursued are working. Yet the current recovery under Obama has been absolutely abysmal, about the worst on record by many measures. At this stage of the business cycle from a baseline of such high unemployment and low workforce participation rate, a healthy economy should be generating 300,000 – 400,000 new jobs per month and this should go on for several years on end. Yet for all intents and purposes, we’re losing jobs when weighting for natural population growth. If we’re losing jobs relatively speaking during what should be the height of the economic recovery, then that’s atrocious news and it shouldn’t be spun otherwise.
Welcome to the Occupation
July 6th, 2012
10:41 am
Brosephus, thanks for the tip, bro. I’m sure you’re right. I have a very hard time with any version other than just the analytic one that makes sense to me. But worth keeping in mind for sure.
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
10:42 am
“I could care less what the Republican plan is.”
No logic???? You know what no logic is?
No logic is losing 750,000 jobs a month at the end of Bush’s term, then sitting back and blaming Obama for not fixing the Republican disaster fast enough with no plan of their own to fix it.
That’s nutso.
getalife
July 6th, 2012
10:44 am
No mark,
Global economic collapses happened are not suppose to happen.
They deregulated so it did happen.
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
10:45 am
“…a healthy economy should be generating 300,000 – 400,000 new jobs per month”
And just how does Mitt Outsourcer Romney and his job, jobs, jobs Republican buddies plan on fixing the mess they created?
Steve - USA "None of the Above"
July 6th, 2012
10:45 am
DannyY-
Read the Mark in Midtown post @10:40 to get some basic understanding.
I don’t agree it should be at 300-400 thousand but we should at least be in the 200’s.
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
10:45 am
Guess I’ll be hanging here for a bit longer since I’m having problems with my flight simulator…
Mark in mid-town
At this stage of the business cycle from a baseline of such high unemployment and low workforce participation rate, a healthy economy should be generating 300,000 – 400,000 new jobs per month and this should go on for several years on end.
Have you stopped long enough to realize that what worked 20-30 years ago does not always work today? We don’t have the job infrastructure to create that many jobs per month anymore. Where are we going to create those jobs, Wal-Mart? In order to create those kind of jobs in the past, we had a robust manufacturing industry. We benefitted due to world demand for US products. That’s what created those jobs. Now that we are a net importer and net consumer, there’s no way to create demand in this country to create that many jobs in a month.
getalife
July 6th, 2012
10:48 am
And mark, your party wants to deregulate again for another collapse.
Steve - USA "None of the Above"
July 6th, 2012
10:48 am
Granny you just lack the honesty to acknowledge that these numbers suck. I have been pulling for better job growth for month after month. If that job growth had occurred your hero would be re-elected in a landslide.
Welcome to the Occupation
July 6th, 2012
10:49 am
But in all seriousness, one thing I would love to hear the Obama-enemies here explain is the unprecedented drop in government employment that we continue to see under this “Kenyan Marxist”.
getalife
July 6th, 2012
10:50 am
And it was 9 million lost jobs.
If you can’t tell the truth mark, you will be called out.
How about a correction to your lies mark?
Didn’t think so.
Welcome to the Occupation
July 6th, 2012
10:53 am
Brosephus: “Have you stopped long enough to realize that what worked 20-30 years ago does not always work today? ”
Correct. This is structural. And systemic.
And what’s more, if you look at historical graphs of recoveries from recessions since the Great Depression you’ll see that they get progressively weaker, thus suggesting a long-range decrease in capitalism’s ability to even generate a recovery. The reasons: declining manufacturing, decline in labor’s political power (de-unionization), and financial deregulation (harder to channel money into productive, non-speculative activities).
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
10:54 am
“Read the Mark in Midtown post @10:40 to get some basic understanding.”
Hogwash! As Brosephus pointed out times have changed. Our whole economic infrastructure went through drastic change. We lost manufacturing jobs to China, outsourced to India, cut the public workforce and lost jobs due to technology advances. The Bush recession was unique.
The stock market did recover, the job market didn’t.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
10:55 am
Steve – USA “None of the Above”
July 6th, 2012
10:48 am
Granny you just lack the honesty to acknowledge that these numbers suck. I have been pulling for better job growth for month after month. If that job growth had occurred your hero would be re-elected in a landslide.
NO STEVE YOU ARE FLAT OUT WRONG.
They are not good.
You lack the “honesty to acknowledge” and I will add character, honor,
and intelligence to face the fact and admit that cleaning up YOUR mess
will take quite a view years.
When GOP supply side economics screws a pooch…it stays screwed.
Mr. Silly Pants
Jefferson
July 6th, 2012
10:57 am
Would Romney break the sides of said cheerio is the real question.
Only if he could buy his way out…
Steve - USA "None of the Above"
July 6th, 2012
10:59 am
Mrs. Granny Pants,
I never once said in any of my posts that it was Obama’s fault or that the Republicans have a better plan. Not once…I challenge you to quote that post. What I did say is that these numbers suck and to try to spin them into some great success story is laughable.
Your eyes saw something that does not exist, that is what happens when you look at the world with an agenda.
GT
July 6th, 2012
11:03 am
Donovan at least Jay has a personality, your man Romney has gone into hiding because he knows how dull he is. He sends, like his Mormon roots, a pair of surrogate politicians to Ohio yesterday to do his work for him. There are photos of MR looking Kennedyist in his boats and leisure while the governors of Louisiana and some Midwestern state tear at Obama. The debates will kill Romney, he wasn’t very good before and now he hasn’t had a unfiltered comment in weeks. He won’t be in game condition while O is slugging it out on the front lines every day, getting sharper and sharper. Strangest strategy I have ever seen, but if I had Romney weakness for getting tongue tied I would be hiding is a closet too.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 6th, 2012
11:05 am
Steve
I never said you said that now did I?
I double dawg dare you to find where I ever posted that either.
That’s what happens when you live with NO AGENDA….or plan…or dreams…or hopes….
Sad Mr. Silly Pants
getalife
July 6th, 2012
11:08 am
Listening to our President speaking the truth about the collapse.
Pay attention mark.
Steve - USA "None of the Above"
July 6th, 2012
11:10 am
Granny Gecko “Liberal Pawn”,
I need to get some work done and let me leave you with this final thought. I am all for stopping the Obama Tax cuts on people making over $500,000. I would also like people making over $1,000,000 pay more Federal Income Tax. I would like a “Minimum Tax” also put in for Corporations and Individuals making over $1,000,000. I also think we need an additional 1 cent sales tax nationwide and per gallon dedicated to a well planned infra-structure jobs program for at least 2 years.
So please don’t pretend to know how I think. I don’t drink the Cherry or the Grape Kool-aid.
You can yell at me some more next weekend, I am off to work.
getalife
July 6th, 2012
11:11 am
I wonder if the gop party fighting against our recovery for this election has anything to do with it.
Steve - USA "None of the Above"
July 6th, 2012
11:12 am
“Steve
I never said you said that now did I?
I double dawg dare you to find where I ever posted that either.”
HERE IT IS. “YOUR MESS”
“You lack the “honesty to acknowledge” and I will add character, honor,
and intelligence to face the fact and admit that cleaning up YOUR mess
will take quite a view years.”
Haha! you lose!
….again.
Brosephus™
July 6th, 2012
11:12 am
Occupation
jconservative frequently posts the jobs creation numbers by decade that would back up exactly what you’re saying. Each recovery is weaker and weaker. Now, we’re left with what we have which is diddly squat. I’m often amazed at how people continuously recite the “jobless recovery” stuff without actually stopping long enough to realize exactly what a jobless recovery really means. That means that the jobs that were lost are not replaced. After a few of those, you have lost the basic foundation for any type of recovery because there is no job structure to fuel a recovery.
JDW
July 6th, 2012
11:13 am
@Talking Head…”So a 1/3 of the 80,000 ‘jobs’ added this month are Temporary…always a good sign of a strong economy.”
Now see thats kind of the point…no one every said it was strong simply much better than Duhbya left it. If the Do Nothing Congress would get off the snide we could work on improving it much faster.
JDW
July 6th, 2012
11:18 am
@Steve…”If you see a 300 pound guy he is fat, he doesn’t become unfat because you then see a 320 pound guy.”
Fair enough but it you have have to choose the skinniest between the two you got to go with the 300 pounder. Obama is indeed average…Romney wants to do more of the same stuff that got us here to begin with…easy choice.
getalife
July 6th, 2012
11:18 am
The gop never united to solve this crisis.
They played politics and the cons will reward them for that.
Look in the mirror cons, you are to blame.
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July 6th, 2012
11:33 am
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td
July 6th, 2012
11:49 am
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
July 6th, 2012
9:35 am
I am sure you will be voting for Obama but at least I can go to bed on election night knowing your vote was not counted in Georgia. All 16 votes from Georgia will be cast for Romney.
Yes an Georgia ranks around the mid-40’s in education level.
Coincidence. Nope.
You take out the scores of the children whose parents are Democratic voters and Georgia competes with any state in the nation educationally.
td
July 6th, 2012
11:54 am
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
9:55 am
Republicans vow to fix the job market was quickly aborted, “Jobs, jobs, jobs,” turned into “Abortion, abortion, abortion.”
How many jobs bills, passed by the Republican house since 2011, are sitting on Harry Reid’s (D) desk collecting dust because he refuses to bring them to the floor of the Democratic controlled Senate?
DannyX
July 6th, 2012
12:01 pm
“How many jobs bills, passed by the Republican house since 2011, are sitting on Harry Reid’s (D) desk collecting dust because he refuses to bring them to the floor of the Democratic controlled Senate?”
Why don’t you tell us td? Make sure you give all the details of these Republican bills. Don’t forget to mention the anti-abortion muck these bills are probably loaded with.
I’ll be waiting.
Bullseye
July 6th, 2012
12:13 pm
td thinks the city of Decatur schools are full of right wing spawn.
Mark in mid-town
July 6th, 2012
12:38 pm
The last very severe recession was the one in the early 1980s. The Democratic Party and left would say that the only reason the economic recovery under Reagan was so strong was because the recession was so severe and that there was nothing extraordinary about the recovery under Reagan since that’s what was to be expected from such a severe recession.
Well, let’s extrapolate from that. As Obama likes to point out, the recession he inherited was the worst since the Great Depression, worse than what happened early in Reagan’s presidency. That means the current recovery should be even stronger than what happened under Reagan when applying the same logic and standards. Don’t lose any sleep waiting for the msm to do that.
Job growth averaged 273,000 a month for a total of 9.8 million for the first 3 years of the recovery under Reagan. Adjusting for the larger population today, the Reagan Recovery would have averaged 360,000 jobs a month for a three-year total of 13 million jobs.
So applying the same logic and standards that the left and the Democratic Party applied to Reagan, the current recovery should then be averaging more than 360,000 net new jobs a month since the recession was even more severe, and the more severe the recession, the stronger corresponding recovery is supposed to be.
markie mark
July 6th, 2012
2:21 pm
is it just me, or does it seem to others the closer we get to the election the more vicious the left on here becomes?
Welcome to the Occupation
July 6th, 2012
2:39 pm
Mark in mid-town :
The recession in the early 1980s was essentially an induced recession. It was induced by the central bankers at the Fed. (Are you familiar with the so-called “Volcker Shock”?) It was induced and kept going for much longer than necessary for specific political-ideological reasons. And it was done largely under a Democratically appointed Fed chairman. So it’s misleading to draw too much of a direction comparison between that crisis and this one, although the larger crisis of capitalism of the 1970s is similar in severity to the one we’re in now.
Welcome to the Occupation
July 6th, 2012
2:46 pm
markie mark: is it just me, or does it seem to others the closer we get to the election the more vicious the left on here becomes?
Why would we? It’s not like we really have a dog in that fight really. In all seriousness ..
Joseph
July 6th, 2012
3:38 pm
Jay sure did change the subject in a hurry… LOL… But great news with the jobs numbers… For the GOP that is…
fair and balanced
July 6th, 2012
5:09 pm
How many jobs have trickled down from MItt and his billionaire pals last month??
gm
July 6th, 2012
7:00 pm
Good old Willard, feels American pain, thats why he is jet skiing at a million dollar resort, how could any body in their right mind vote for this Gordon Gekko spoil brat and thinks he cares about middle class America?
Unemployment in the swing states are under 7% why not Georgia, oh thats right we have been under rep control for the last 12 years””’
bman.
July 6th, 2012
8:02 pm
which states are the swing states?
Joseph
July 6th, 2012
10:05 pm
I still can’t get over how Bookman and his ilk skirted this issue… Oblama and his atrocious policies are driving us in the ditch… Why don’t you libs want to talk about them???
Milo83
July 7th, 2012
9:32 am
The reality!
“That
weBookman latches on to these modest positives speaks to the bias of low expectations,” Greenhaus said.Meantime, 12.7 million Americans remain officially unemployed.
When Deborah Masse, 49, lost a job in 2007, she had a job offer within six weeks. This time has been different. Since being laid off in October 2011, she has sent thousands of resumes and had several phone interviews but received no offers.
Masse, who lives in Stanton, Mich., with her husband and mother, has tried to make use of her free time. She has exercised more, learned some French and Spanish, and brushed up on her technology skills.
“If nothing else,” she said, “I will end up on Social Security, more fit, more intelligent and worldly — and broke.”
http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&date=20120706&id=15302424
Mighty Righty
July 7th, 2012
9:40 am
While Obama brags, actually brags, about this anemic June jobs report of only 80,000 jobs added which does not even keep pace with population growth, 1.5 million first time filers filed for unemployment during the month. His economic ignorance has resulted in eight point two percent “reported” unemployment. He promised, employment would be only five point seven percent now if his “stimulous was approved. Well his stimulous was approved and he didn’t know what to do with the money so he gave to his friends for projects like Solyndra which resulted in zero jobs He wasted a trillion dollars on his favorite projects without any regard to creating jobs. The president who has never run a business, never managed an enterprise, never risked his own money, never has had any knid of experience running any kind enterprise has been expeimenting on us. We are the laboratory mice he is trying out his marxist ideas on. Thus far he has been a complete and dismal failure. Maxrist Scialism has failed every where every time it has been tried, there are no exceptions, Meanwhile, we are paying the price for his ignorance while he brags about his failed economic policies. It is time for us to hire an experienced leader that has a track record of success that believes in the American dream of freedom, small government and indiidual responsibility.. Come on Novemeber. It can;t get here soon enough.
Mighty Righty
July 7th, 2012
9:48 am
I listened to Obama’s speech yesterday where he went on and on about how middle class was an attitude, etc. The message I undrestood was he was telling us to get used to what we have, it’s not going to get better. Rely on family, friends and help each other out. The best statement was success can’t be measured by money. In other words, under his administration don’t expect employment, don’t expect financial success, just get used to a lower standard of life style because it will not get better.
Milo83
July 7th, 2012
11:07 am
Misery loves Obama, The Miserable Failure.
Welcome to the Occupation
July 7th, 2012
1:42 pm
Milo83, true enough about the misery, as there’s no shortage of that. But your focusing on Obama implies that he is distinct from the corrupted political ruling elite of which he’s a part. The current American two-party system gives us a fake choice between a corpo-Dem and a corpo-GOPer trying to assuage a proto-fascist right wing of his party. Both parties are bought and paid for by various offshoots of Wall St. power. Under NO possible scenario is the Nov election going to change that basic fact one iota. So what’s your thinking given that hard cold fact?
kelly
July 7th, 2012
2:17 pm
So Romney’s plan for his Presidency is to undo everything done under the Obama administration. How is that progress? How is that working for the American people? How is that not just a colossal waste of time? You can’t run for president as the anti candidate; you have to be for something. The few things Romney seems to be for, we already have: low taxes, smaller government, a strong military; why then is he running? He’s the anybody but Obama candidate. Some vision…