George Orwell explains the Romney campaign
Mitt Romney reversed course yet again Wednesday, announcing that yes, the financial penalty used to enforce ObamaCare must be considered a tax. As a consequence of that redefinition, “the American people know that President Obama has broken the pledge he made; he said he wouldn’t raise taxes on middle-income Americans,” Romney told CBS News.
On the other hand, Romney insisted, the almost identical financial penalty that is used to enforce Romney’s almost identical health-insurance program in Massachusetts was somehow NOT a tax increase because … well, just because.
How could that be?
I have no earthly idea. Perhaps the only way to understand Romney’s claim is to note that it comes from the same mind that harshly criticized President Obama’s plan to rescue the Detroit automakers, yet later swooped in to announce that “I’ll take a lot of credit” for the success of the plan that he had claimed to hate.
That bizarre argument in turn becomes more comprehensible if you recall how Romney first attacked President Obama for not intervening aggressively in Libya, and a few weeks later turned around and attacked him for, well, intervening aggressively in Libya.
Likewise, he criticized Obama for seeking the removal of Moammar Gaddafi, predicting that the president was setting himself up for “massive strategic failure.” A few weeks later, when Gaddafi’s ouster was completed, Romney announced his complete support for the removal of “one of the worst actors on the world stage, responsible for terror around the world.”
The examples go on and on, from immigration reform to education to Afghanistan. One of Romney’s favorite themes is to condemn Obama for not providing clear leadership on such issues, then refusing to explain what he, as a supposedly strong, determined leader, would do differently.
George Orwell
George Orwell, in his novel “1984″, provides us a name for this terrible illness afflicting Romney. He called it “doublethink,” “the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.”
As Orwell puts it:
“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, … to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself — that was the ultimate subtlety; consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed.”
The world of reality and the world of politics are often at odds. That is true of all politicians of all ideologies, from President Obama down to city council candidates. But I cannot recall a politician for whom reality has been more malleable than it is for Mitt Romney. To borrow from Orwell, he expects us to forget what he said yesterday, and then to forget that we’ve forgotten.
– Jay Bookman
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DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 5th, 2012
4:00 pm
frog: DDR
when you read you must
also comprehend
No truer words have EVER been spoken! My apologies for telling you to read the ruling for yourself.
Doom – I am NOT predictable!!! OK so it IS the Peter Griffin clip; but it’s still relevant!! Shooot now i have to find something else……
josef
July 5th, 2012
4:00 pm
BROSEPHUS
Much the same here on that guilt by association thingie…and it’s really sad.
Thulsa Doom
July 5th, 2012
4:03 pm
doggone,
Where there ya go- a burdensome charge, obligation, duty, or demand. Therefore a tax is not just a payment to the govt as you previously stated.
For the purpose of the SCOTUS decision on ACA the question then becomes is the imposition of ACA a burdensome charge, obligation, duty, or demand? It sure seems to be to me at least one if not several of those 4 to at least some people. For example there is no question it will be a burdensome charge to some people that simply cannot afford it.
But frankly I don’t care what you guys call it- tax or penalty. ACA stands and that’s all that really matters. Quibbling over whether its a tax or penalty I will leave to the semantics warriors out there.
Adam
July 5th, 2012
4:04 pm
But frankly I don’t care what you guys call it- tax or penalty. ACA stands and that’s all that really matters.
THIS
JamVet
July 5th, 2012
4:05 pm
State level verses Federal level. Its easy to tell the difference. One affects 310 million people while the other effects 6 million.
In and of itself, the scalability of the exact same program is of no significance at all. In other words a distinction with no difference.
One has been resoundingly rejected by the American people. The other has been accepted on a state level.
The first sentence is a fabrication. And the point” is another distinction with no difference.
But THAT’S IT???
No other differences AT ALL??? What a laughingstock of an answer!
NOTHING whatsoever about the details of the plans being virtually identical?
To wit…
Which of the two plans provides for an individual mandate? BOTH.
Which of the two plans uses the same tax scheme to penalize free riders? BOTH.
Which of the two plans charges people who choose to not purchase health insurance a penalty through the tax code? BOTH.
Yep it sure looks like that on the most fundamental and important of details they are completely different!
And YOU dare use the word logical???
Hysterical…
Adam
July 5th, 2012
4:06 pm
IT’S A TAX!!!!
Adam
July 5th, 2012
4:07 pm
“He strolled down ‘I killed bin Laden lane’….”
Oscar
July 5th, 2012
4:08 pm
Apropos of nothing:
You can call a dog’s tail a leg, but it’s still a tail.
Abraham Lincoln
carlosgvv
July 5th, 2012
4:08 pm
It’s my understanding that this mandate(tax?) will affect approximately 1% of the population. So, why are so many of you reacting as though it will affect everyone? Have you even bothered to think about this or do you just always, like good tools, do what your political idols tell you?
Thulsa Doom
July 5th, 2012
4:09 pm
DDR,
If it makes you feel better I double checked and no matter how many times you’ve sent it to me I still laughed again. That clip is priceless it is. Just mix it up and hit me with a left hook once in awhile to keep the humor fresher. Even if it is at my expense I’ll still laugh as long as its funny.
Adam
July 5th, 2012
4:09 pm
By the way, you know how everyone keeps saying Obama deceived everyone and hid from everyone that it was a tax?
How come you guys didn’t notice that before now? And how come the other conservative justices disagree?
Doggone/GA
July 5th, 2012
4:10 pm
“Therefore a tax is not just a payment to the govt as you previously stated”
It is in the context of the SCOTUS healtcare decision. Despite your obvious inability to see the difference, a “tax” imposed by Congress is not the same thing as something that “taxes” the economy. I can “tax” my body by overexercising, but that is not a “tax” imposed by Congress.
Doggone/GA
July 5th, 2012
4:14 pm
“It’s my understanding that this mandate(tax?)”
No matter how many times that is said, no matter how many ways that is said…SCOTUS DID NOT RULE THAT THE MANDATE WAS A TAX. They ruled that the PENALTY can be “construed” as a tax. The penalty it NOT THE MANDATE.
Obama is over
July 5th, 2012
4:18 pm
Adam,
While I appreciate your spirit and the need to express yourself, your misinformed comments today are surpassed only by your naivete.
Thulsa Doom
July 5th, 2012
4:22 pm
Doggone,
Oh I can see the difference alright. I’m just not going to waste a lot of time quibbling over whether its a tax or penalty. I can see both sides of the argument though I personally view it more as a penalty.
Its a possible tax on the economy though not necessarily a regular tax unless you are talking about the myriad numbers of actual govt taxes that will hit to pay for ACA . The reason I generally view it as a penalty is different from the reason the liberals may view it that way. I tend to view it that way because in my opinion it is similar to the Medicare part D penalty that I am very familiar with.
As I said though its settled law and to me it matters not in the great scheme of things whether its a tax or penalty.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 5th, 2012
4:22 pm
NOTHING says naivete like the phrase “Obama is over”.
Mighty Righty
July 5th, 2012
4:24 pm
Obamacare has already spent one billion dollars.
13,000 pages of new regulations to implement Obamacare and you think that health care under this man made disaster will improve your health care? This is the Department of Motorvehicles, the Post Office, the E.P.A. times a hundred. God help us all! We have truned our health care over to idiots! Romney, please save us from liberals.
It’s a lawyer’s dream!
Officials have already drafted 13,000 pages of new regulations for the new ObamaTax law.
FOX News reported:
With the Supreme Court giving President Obama’s new health care law a green light, federal and state officials are turning to implementation of the law — a lengthy and massive undertaking still in its early stages, but already costing money and expanding the government.
The Health and Human Services Department “was given a billion dollars implementation money,” Republican Rep. Denny Rehberg of Montana said. “That money is gone already on additional bureaucrats and IT programs, computerization for the implementation.”
“Oh boy,” Stan Dorn of the Urban Institute said. “HHS has a huge amount of work to do and the states do, too. There will be new health insurance marketplaces in every state in the country, places you can go online, compare health plans.”
The IRS, Health and Human Services and many other agencies will now write thousands of pages of regulations — an effort well under way:
“There’s already 13,000 pages of regulations, and they’re not even done yet,” Rehberg said.
JamVet
July 5th, 2012
4:26 pm
NOTHING says naivete like the phrase “Obama is over”.
Hey, it’s no worse than Harry Callahan, CommieAJC and Drain the Swamp.
Still laughing about how Kyle had to use the nuclear option to deal with Dave R and several of the other right winger’s childish behavior…
Jefferson
July 5th, 2012
4:27 pm
Romney is like a guy screwing a cheerio, he knows what he’s working with.
pogo
July 5th, 2012
4:28 pm
While Jay tries to understand Romney, his and his liberal brethren’s biggest problem is, America does now understand Obama. The only thing they can do is critisize and try to destroy Romeny because their boy is a known loser.
Jay, I hope your kids work hard, are successful and they do all the right things financially. And then I hope they then have to give it all away to those who don’t want to work hard and to do these things. That is the state the working people in this country are increasingly living in. Your children are going to feel it a thousand times worse (unless of they themselves become members of the entitlement culture) than even the workers of today. Of course that probably won’t bother you, will it?
Here we go!
July 5th, 2012
4:29 pm
10 questions – take the quiz and let’s see how much you know about ACA.
http://healthreform.kff.org/quizzes/health-reform-quiz/
barking frog
July 5th, 2012
4:30 pm
Doggone/GA,DDR,Adam,
I’m convinced. PPACA
is not a tax. Roberts was
wrong. It’s unconstitutional.
Scalia was right.
Alabama pastor holds ‘whites only’ conference
July 5th, 2012
4:30 pm
A controversial pastor’s conference welcoming only “white Christians” is underway in Lamar County, Ala., upsetting residents of the nearby town of Winfield in the western part of the state.
Christian Identity Ministries is holding a three-day conference for so-called “white Christians” who contend they have been treated unfairly, the Rev. Mel Lewis told local TV station WSFA. Lewis, the organizer and keynote speaker, says they have the right, like any other Americans, to worship how they wish.
Ku Klux Klan flags and white supremacy slogans surround the conference, which will conclude with a cross being set on fire Friday night. Organizers say it’s not a cross-burning, but rather sacred Christian cross lighting.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/alabama-pastor-hold-whites-only-conference-162845760.html
carlosgvv
July 5th, 2012
4:33 pm
Doggone/GA – 4:14
That is not what I asked.
JohnnyReb
July 5th, 2012
4:33 pm
What? No global warming/climate change piece?
Bob LaBlah
July 5th, 2012
4:34 pm
I would rather have doublethink than doubletalk.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 5th, 2012
4:35 pm
Just getting caught back up here after the last few hours.
Hey, Brosephus — I’m sure you were aware of it, but those crazoids having the ‘whites only’ tent revival are Christian Identity adherents, and those guys can be bad news. CI is loosely associated with White Nationalism and the Aryan Nations, and some small groups associated with those movements have done some pretty serious violent crime out West.
They’re not 100% in agreement on everything, but generally speaking, they don’t like Jews or anyone they don’t think is completely white and completely (fundamentalist) Christian. Definitely some people I don’t want to meet on the street.
curious
July 5th, 2012
4:36 pm
Looks like Obama outfoxed the Republicans again. Considering they focus laser-like on anything remotely resembling a tax, they must be too dumb to run this country.
It won’t surprise me if they drop their insurance plans so they can be subjected to a tax they can complain about.
All that gripping about the 50% who pay no tax and now gripping that many of the 50% will be paying a tax.
JohnnyReb
July 5th, 2012
4:36 pm
Fifteen pages showing the Left just does not get it. Here it is in 9 words.
We would vote for Elmer Fudd instead of Obama.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 5th, 2012
4:36 pm
13,000 pages? First that will have to be factchecked of course.
But do you have a problem with details?
Let’s see…mmmmm…
GOP health care proposal 6/17/2009 4 pages
GOP health care proposal 5/9/2009 230 pages
You can whine all you want about the scope of the ACA, but sure looks like the GOP didn’t ever really do the homework.
Doggone/GA
July 5th, 2012
4:37 pm
“Roberts was wrong. It’s unconstitutional. Scalia was right”
Nope. The majority was right. It is YOU who is wrong.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 5th, 2012
4:38 pm
A. Pastor — “Christian Identity Ministries is holding a three-day conference for so-called “white Christians” who contend they have been treated unfairly”
They’re probably going to complain that that college-boy n***er they work with down at the loading dock got that promotion to foreman what should have gone to a good White Christian boy. Either that, or the Captain D’s drive-thru done shorted them on hush puppies AGAIN.
mike
July 5th, 2012
4:39 pm
Carlos, what many are concerned about is the fact that those 25-30 million people who don’t have insurance, who are now mandated to have it, are not going to pay for theirs, we are. Do you think they are magically going to start paying their way?
My company has informed me to expect a 15-20% increase in my insurance costs over the next two years because of this law. When the full effect of this law is realized, I think we are all going to be upset.
Doggone/GA
July 5th, 2012
4:39 pm
“We would vote for Elmer Fudd instead of Obama”
Not “would”…will
Joe Hussein Mama
July 5th, 2012
4:39 pm
J. Reb — “We would vote for Elmer Fudd instead of Obama.”
If you had only voted for Mr. Fudd instead of Mr. Bush, I might be able to give some credence to your complaints today.
barking frog
July 5th, 2012
4:40 pm
Doggone/GA
July 5th, 2012
4:37 pm
“Roberts was wrong. It’s
unconstitutional. Scalia was
right”
Nope. The majority was right.
It is YOU who is wrong.
……..
wrong about what ?
Doggone/GA
July 5th, 2012
4:40 pm
“My company has informed me to expect a 15-20% increase in my insurance costs over the next two years because of this law”
And did they also tell you that it will go up even if the law is repealed?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 5th, 2012
4:41 pm
“all they can do is critisize romney?”
Is that just about the squirrely-est thing ever written about a Presedential campaign?
Seriously.
Are you actually telling us the candidates should be making nice-nice to each other?
Pogo – just what stick are you hoppin’ on?
Lord Help Us
July 5th, 2012
4:42 pm
‘My company has informed me to expect a 15-20% increase in my insurance costs over the next two years because of this law’
Your company lied to you…
Joe Hussein Mama
July 5th, 2012
4:42 pm
mike — “My company has informed me to expect a 15-20% increase in my insurance costs over the next two years because of this law. When the full effect of this law is realized, I think we are all going to be upset.”
If you look back at your insurer’s premium increases over the last several years, I suspect you may find similar annual and biannual price increases even BEFORE the ACA was passed. Several insurers have already been caught claiming that the ACA has “forced” them to raise premiums even before any of its provisions kicked in.
JohnnyReb
July 5th, 2012
4:42 pm
Unlike most of you who have been goofing off blogging all day, I have worked and the grey matter slows because of it. I should have stated “before” in lieu of “instead of.”
Speaking of cartoons, Obama makes a good Road Runner.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 5th, 2012
4:42 pm
Hi Common!!
Doom — Agreed. You and I are like an old married couple. Every now and then, we need to keep it “spicy” in the bedroom.
hiya Granny G!! Thugettes Rule!
Doggone/GA
July 5th, 2012
4:43 pm
“wrong about what ?”
I don’t play that kind of game. Try to find someone dumb enough to fall for it.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 5th, 2012
4:43 pm
“My company has informed me to expect a 15-20% increase in my insurance costs over the next two years because of this law”
FUNNY – I told our company the same thing. Our costs over the last 12 months have been driven by a couple of serious and expensive illnesses.
Chemotherapy and radiation and surgeries and rehabs…..oh my.
JamVet
July 5th, 2012
4:44 pm
We would vote for Elmer Fudd instead of Obama.
Who is exactly who you’re getting ready to nominate.
Except now that I think about it at least Elmer did have a few endearing qualities!
What are Mitt’s? That he is a lying sack of ___? LOL…
Jefferson
July 5th, 2012
4:44 pm
John Reb, you show your GOP colors when you assume only YOU (GOP) do anything… that’s the condiscending attitude of that tribe.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 5th, 2012
4:45 pm
Hi DDR
Do you think thugarina would be more feminine?
barking frog
July 5th, 2012
4:45 pm
Doggone/GA
You stated that I was wrong.
Cite please.
JohnnyReb
July 5th, 2012
4:45 pm
JamVet – Mitt may be too honest for his own good.
Thomas
July 5th, 2012
4:45 pm
I printed out the picture above- folded it- and held it upside down. The rustling noise in doing so was clearly Suicidal Thoughts by Notorious B.I.G. and the picture was in fact not Romney but instead Attila the Bun (Attila the Hun’s nephew who was one of the great bakers of his time)
Really shocking that a politician changes his or opinion- tomorrow we shall learn what happens when an egg drops.
mike
July 5th, 2012
4:46 pm
I know, we need SINGLE PAYER, not this mess.
Rightwing Troll
July 5th, 2012
4:47 pm
“We would vote for Elmer Fudd instead of Obama”
W can’t run again… just wishful thinking on your part…
carlosgvv
July 5th, 2012
4:48 pm
mike – 4:49
There is nothing in the ObamaCare law that says you will have to pay if they don’t.
What makes you think the majority will just thumb their nose with impunity at this mandate(tax)law?
Has it occured to you that your company is just screwing you to increase their bottom line profit margin and blaming it on ObamaCare because they think you’re too dumb to know any better?
Ha
JohnnyReb
July 5th, 2012
4:48 pm
Jefferson – my “we” was in the context of vs Moonbats. The race for whose most condiscending is nose-to-nose. However, that puts the Dem horse almost a length in arears!
Generation$crewed
July 5th, 2012
4:48 pm
Doggone/GA
July 5th, 2012
4:40 pm
&
Lord Help Us
July 5th, 2012
4:42 pm
which one is it?
Lord Help Us I have been informed the same by my place of employment…..
are you also calling Doggone a liar or are you engaging in some lying yourself? Or maybe just random accusation making?
Doggone,
I thought one of the main reasons for this law was to lower HC cost?
Skip
July 5th, 2012
4:50 pm
Hasn’t anyone been paying attention to premiums over the last 10 years? Or higher co-pays or less coverage? They go up 7-10% a year or you get less. Geeze .
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 5th, 2012
4:50 pm
ELmer Fudd lost in the GOP primaries to this guy
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bp2.blogger.com/_-863caiC2IM/R5aJhyBbKGI/AAAAAAAAABI/Rj38SYKs83U/s400/plastic-mitt.jpg&imgrefurl=http://rightsmart.blogspot.com/2008/01/introducing-plastic-mitt.html&usg=__OY6RTxHRJUnA8gOBNxs90uL6wf4=&h=255&w=192&sz=24&hl=en&start=7&zoom=1&tbnid=2X0iYScosPttzM:&tbnh=111&tbnw=84&ei=2v31T8TrHYqE8AT9-vHPBg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dplastic%2Bmitt%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26tbm%3Disch%26prmd%3Divns&itbs=1
But as was painfully aware to us all – the pickens were pretty slim.
barking frog
July 5th, 2012
4:50 pm
Is there a cap on health
insurance premiums in
PPACA?
Rightwing Troll
July 5th, 2012
4:51 pm
“Speaking of cartoons, Obama makes a good Road Runner.”
And the GOP makes an excellent Wile E. Coyote…
Soothsayer
July 5th, 2012
4:51 pm
Well, I know it’s not Friday night yet. But, here’s one I stumbled across that just so beautiful that I have to share it with you all. Even if you can’t get behind the message, you can just listen to the singing.
Mighty Righty
July 5th, 2012
4:52 pm
In Obama’s fantasy land all you have to do to eliminate a problem is to give it a new name. U.S. Casualities in war are now NATO casualties, Communists are Progressives, Terrorists are any one except Muslims, all bad economic statistics are caused by Bush, Banks, Wall Street, Phamaceuticals, Doctors, Congress, Oil Companies, or the One percent, People who don’t look for jobs are not unemployed, Illegal Immigrants are undocumented workers and the biggest lie of all a tax is not a tax unless he says it is a tax. Funny how his soliciter argued before the supreme court it was a tax not a fee. So the worst president in the history of our republic thinks a majoriy will vote for him based on his redefinition of words. When you sell your house you will be charged a “fee” of 3.8 percent of the amount of sale smilar to the “fee” that is added to your purchases by the state of Georgia. There are other “fees” in Obamacare in the amount of 21 total new and increased fees. The looney left thinks that fees won’t cost them money. I suppose the so called Bush tax cuts were really “fee cuts”.
Doggone/GA
July 5th, 2012
4:53 pm
“I thought one of the main reasons for this law was to lower HC cost?”
maybe you should think a little deeper. Personally, regardless of what might have been said, I never expected any such thing. What *I* expected was that we would have people able to get healthcare insurance who cannot get it now. Nothing is going to “lower” healthcare costs, but they’re going to go up no matter what we do…so if we can ALSO have virtually everyone able to get insurance, then we will AT LEAST have accomplished something that needed to be done that will account for SOME of the rise. It will be worth it.
Erwin's cat
July 5th, 2012
4:53 pm
Your Insurance rates will go up to cover those people that are making your insurance rates go up….i think i got it
Rightwing Troll
July 5th, 2012
4:53 pm
“My company has informed me to expect a 15-20% increase in my insurance costs over the next two years because of this law.”
My policies have gone up about 20% a year for the last 8 years… am I to believe that BCBS knew something about this law all the way back in 2004?
Lord Help Us
July 5th, 2012
4:54 pm
‘Lord Help Us I have been informed the same by my place of employment…..’
The part about the increase being ‘due to Obamacare’ is the lie.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 5th, 2012
4:55 pm
Do you think thugarina would be more feminine?
More feminine, less effective
No one is afraid of a “thugarina” (sounds like ballerina); but a thugette!! Mad respect yo!
Granny G be the best Thugette you can be! And, just to piss off a few cons, go out and buy some FRENCH FRIES, (not freedom fries); that’ll really get them all a twitter!
Joe Hussein Mama
July 5th, 2012
4:55 pm
I think Righty needs a new package of Huggies.
Nancy
July 5th, 2012
4:56 pm
Who would follow a so-called “faith” that was founded by Joe Smith who was run out of several states because of a con scheme to use a divining rod to find “buried treasure” and for creating a bank and closing it down a month later that cheated customers out of thousands of dollars and resulted in charges of bank fraud. Smith was a con artist, pure and simple. He was murdered by a mob that got fed up with his deceptions. I rank this “faith” right up with with Scientology, another worthless cult.
Skip
July 5th, 2012
4:56 pm
Erwin, you got it. But you need to take that up with the ins. co.
Thulsa Doom
July 5th, 2012
4:56 pm
Doom — Agreed. You and I are like an old married couple. Every now and then, we need to keep it “spicy” in the bedroom.
DDR,
I can’t believe you put me, the word “spicy”, and bedroom all in the same sentence and you didn’t scream EEWWWWWW. You feelin ok today?
Joe Hussein Mama
July 5th, 2012
4:56 pm
D. DoRight — “Granny G be the best Thugette you can be! And, just to piss off a few cons, go out and buy some FRENCH FRIES, (not freedom fries); that’ll really get them all a twitter!”
I hear tell Mr. Romney speaks Frainch reeeeeeeal goooooood. Just sayin’.
Lord Help Us
July 5th, 2012
4:57 pm
‘I think Righty needs a new package of Huggies.’
Perhaps his colostomy bag is clogged…
So Bad - Detroit in Ruins
July 5th, 2012
4:57 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1IhXZD4Txs
Joe Hussein Mama
July 5th, 2012
4:57 pm
Doom — “I can’t believe you put me, the word “spicy”, and bedroom all in the same sentence and you didn’t scream EEWWWWWW. You feelin ok today?”
It must be all that fishin’ you’ve been doing. You’ve got that Old Spice thang goin’ on now.
Joe Hussein Mama
July 5th, 2012
4:58 pm
LHU — “Perhaps his colostomy bag is clogged…”
That doesn’t really happen. Don’t ask me how I know.
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 5th, 2012
4:59 pm
TD
DDR,
I can’t believe you put me, the word “spicy”, and bedroom all in the same sentence and you didn’t scream EEWWWWWW. You feelin ok today?
—————————————-
LOL. Take the compliment man
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 5th, 2012
4:59 pm
Hasn’t anyone been paying attention to premiums over the last 10 years? Or higher co-pays or less coverage? They go up 7-10% a year or you get less. Geeze .
Speaking of Looney Tunes:
As said In the voice of Rooster Cogburn: Are you MAD boy!! Premiums NEVER went up, I say they NEVAH went up until that boy Obama forced that dog gone Obamacare upon us!! Do you hear me boy? Ain’t you been listening? I SAID, PREMIUMS NEVAH WENT UP!! It’s ALL Obama’s FAULT! Did you get that boy?
Boy must have a hearing problem…….
JamVet
July 5th, 2012
5:00 pm
Mitt may be too honest for his own good.
Sure. Using your Republican Dictionary of Made Up Definitions, where lies are honesty
He is the MOST unprincipled politician I have ever seen. And I’ve seen a ton of them in the past five decades. He needs to change his last name to Pinocchio. The man has no absolutely sense of right, wrong, morals or ethics. None.
I swear that this Fraud of Frauds would sellout his five sons for five more electoral college votes…
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
July 5th, 2012
5:01 pm
DDR
UH, that wasn’t Rooster Cogburn that was Foghorn Leghorn.
You are too young (and of course beautiful) to remember that cartoon
Thulsa Doom
July 5th, 2012
5:02 pm
Skip,
Nope. Its just a fact of life. If we’re going to cover people with pre-existing conditions and cover those conditions then naturally rates are going to have to skyrocket for everyone else.
There have been 5 states that for years have had laws guaranteeing that everyone can get coverage regardless of pre-existing conditions. Those states- NY, NY, Maine, Mass, and Vermont have rates that have historically been 200-300% higher than rates in the other 45 states.
I’m not saying ACA is a bad thing since there are several things in ACA which I support. But I am saying that rates are going to necessarily skyrocket in order to cover these people. Its just a simple, unavoidable fact.
G Mare
July 5th, 2012
5:02 pm
Hi, everybody. Missed you.
barking frog
July 5th, 2012
5:02 pm
JHM
Didn’t the time Romney
spent in France trying to
straighten them out defer
his military service? More
important to correct the
heathen French than do
his duty to his country.
Mr_B
July 5th, 2012
5:02 pm
“We would vote for Elmer Fudd instead of Obama.”
Which also explains why you shouldn’t be allowed around heavy machinery or to have too much control over finances.
199 more days
July 5th, 2012
5:02 pm
Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette
July 5th, 2012
1:59 pm
199 days….please list what you think he flipped on….
Well Granny, as you always tell people.google it…………several pages of O’Bama flips
Here we go!
July 5th, 2012
5:03 pm
M Righty – there is an old saying that goes something like this: It is far better to stay quiet and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. This applies to you and your typing. Heading home now but please, before you post ridiculous ramblings, at least try to do a fact check.
JamVet
July 5th, 2012
5:04 pm
In Obama’s fantasy land all you have to do to eliminate a problem is to give it a new name.
Says the guy who absolutely couldn’t get enough of the deadly clowns who brought us the Clean Skies Act, the Healthy Forest Initiatives, the Patriot Act and of course the ultimate depravity in his administration – out of MANY – enhanced interrogation…
Rightwing Troll
July 5th, 2012
5:05 pm
“Speaking of Looney Tunes:
As said In the voice of Rooster Cogburn: ”
psssttt… ( i believe you’re thinking of Foghorn Leghorn…)
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 5th, 2012
5:05 pm
God Doom – I didn’t even THINK about it like that!!
Now that I have……….
EEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!
thanks.
Generation$crewed
July 5th, 2012
5:06 pm
Doggone/GA
July 5th, 2012
4:53 pm
I disagree with that notion. We willstill have those unable to afford HC insurence.
Think of a family of 4 making about 37k if they are unable to afford insurence now, the only thing this law offers them is an additional $700 bucks to be paid to the government.
There is a problem with the cost of Health Care for all of us, those with and without insurence.
But passing a bill that does nothing to address that issue, well I cannot celebrate that.
When a problem exist it is not always better to do something, just to be doing something.
as far as thetax goes and the mandate…….
any idea or comment on why the lawyers for Obama said this when asked specifically about the mandate and a tax….”Verrilli said the fee “is administered by the IRS, it is paid on your Form 1040 on April 15th.”
Asked by associate justice Samuel Alito “can the mandate be viewed as a tax,” Verrilli responded “I think it could.”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/05/obama-spox-president-disagrees-with-court-on-tax/
Apparently the lawyer defending the constitutionality of the mandate thinks the mandate could be viewed as a tax
Bob LaBlah
July 5th, 2012
5:07 pm
I’d vote a for Isaiah Crowell/Caleb King ticket before I’d vote for Obama.
GT
July 5th, 2012
5:07 pm
Romney is a remarkable candidate. He is a communist ,in the definition of the right, running for President of the US on a Republican ticket. I truly think he has the potential to be more liberal than O. Hell I would vote for him if I thought he was as bright as O. He did do some clever things while he was in office as governor.
JohnnyReb
July 5th, 2012
5:07 pm
Rightwing Troll
July 5th, 2012
4:51 pm
“Speaking of cartoons, Obama makes a good Road Runner.”
And the GOP makes an excellent Wile E. Coyote…
_________
Yep. Constantly frustrated.
Erwin's cat
July 5th, 2012
5:07 pm
Rooster Cogburn
Thulsa Doom
July 5th, 2012
5:08 pm
Common damn sense and Joe Mama,
Naw. It aint the old spice. DDR must just be feeling charitable today. Or she’s taking it easy on me after getting in her multi shot Bama joke piece from earlier.
Oh, and Joe. Don’t think some of us didn’t see your snarky comment about “something bout a football game”. We take our college football seriously down here! Its our religion dontcha know. Or at least Doomy’s.
They BOTH suck
July 5th, 2012
5:08 pm
“at least try to do a fact check.”
Fact check? Mighty Righty doesn’t need any stinking “fact check”………….. He wouldn’t be Mighty Righty if he used fact check
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
July 5th, 2012
5:08 pm
Oops Thanks ya’ll! Sorry Mr. Leghorn — for some reason I thought you were named Rooster Cogburn!! I picked that name up somewhere…..
Oh and Common — you are wayyyy to suave for your own good!!! wink, wink!
Rightwing Troll
July 5th, 2012
5:08 pm
“Think of a family of 4 making about 37k if they are unable to afford insurence now, the only thing this law offers them is an additional $700 bucks to be paid to the government.”
And how much is the gubbimint on the hook for that ear infection little sally got and had to go to the ER for?
To steal a line from the “compassionate conservatives” they shouldn’t be having babies if they can’t afford them…
JohnnyReb
July 5th, 2012
5:09 pm
Mr_B
July 5th, 2012
5:02 pm
“We would vote for Elmer Fudd instead of Obama.”
Which also explains why you shouldn’t be allowed around heavy machinery or to have too much control over finances.
___________
Wrong on both counts; very successful with both.
Doggone/GA
July 5th, 2012
5:09 pm
“Apparently the lawyer defending the constitutionality of the mandate thinks the mandate could be viewed as a tax”
But his opinion has no force. The only opinion with force is the opinion of the majority of the Supreme Court.
Thulsa Doom
July 5th, 2012
5:10 pm
“EEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!”-DDR
Just goes to show- Its never too late to realize when you slipped up and need to make amends fer it.