The most over-the-top response to ObamaCare ruling
Loading ...I’m trying to decide which right-wing reaction to Thursday’s Supreme Court ruling on ObamaCare is my favorite, and I just can’t settle on one winner. So maybe you could help me.
Here are your options:
A. An angry Glenn Beck — but I repeat myself — referring to Chief Justice John Roberts as “the Dread Pirate Roberts” and announcing that his website would be selling T-shirts featuring Roberts’ picture and the caption “Coward,” all for just $30.
B.) U.S. Rep. Jean Schmidt, R-Ohio, celebrating after hearing initial and incorrect reports that the Supreme Court had struck down the mandate:
C.) The statement put out by Roy Nicholson, chairman of the Mississippi Tea Party, who went all Jefferson Davis on us:
“All of us are now simply chattel of the government to be used and ordered about as they choose. The history books will mark this date as the day our constitutional republic was killed. It will now rest with We The People to decide if it will be resurrected or left to rot in the shallow grave dug for it.
Where is the weeping and wailing? Where is the anger and outrage? Do the people of the country realize what has just been stolen from them? Do the people of the world recognize that the shadow of darkness is now fallen upon them as well and that there remains no defender of their feeble freedoms? The all-out oppression of all people has begun.
Those “occupiers” now controlling the three federal branches of government have joined together in rejecting all Constitutional restraint and in doing so they have severely violated their oaths to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. Together they now stand as blatant usurpers of power and have reduced our constitutional republic, along with all of its freedoms, to nothing more than a dictatorial junta. Becoming a banana republic is next.
When a gang of criminals subvert legitimate government offices and seize all power to themselves without the real consent of the governed their every act and edict is of itself illegal and is outside the bounds of the Rule of Law. In such cases submission is treason. Treason against the Constitution and the valid legitimate government of the nation to which we have pledged our allegiance for years. To resist by all means that are right in the eyes of God is not rebellion or insurrection, it is patriotic resistance to invasion.
May all of us fall on our faces before the Heavenly Judge, repent of our sins, and humbly cry out to Him for mercy on our country. And, may godly courageous leaders rise up in His wisdom and power to lead us in displacing the criminal invaders from their seats and restore our constitutional republic.”
D.) Matt Davis, former spokesman for the Michigan Republican Party, who posed the question:
Is Armed Rebellion Now Justified?
“Implicit in Benjamin Franklin’s fabled response at the conclusion of the Constitutional Convention was a dire warning: That the Republic would one day devolve into tyranny unless we the people prevented it.
In 2008, we the people elected Barack Obama as president, and the 100-year progressive trek to tyranny begun in 1912 with Woodrow Wilson’s election was complete. It cannot be said too many times — for the purposes of emphasis and clarity — that the Constitution was possible ONLY AFTER the American Revolution; and that the war itself would not have been possible without the collective agreement, as so eloquently articulated in the Declaration of Independence, that the course of human events will sometimes justify one group of people to sever themselves from their oppressors.
In other words, America itself was possible only after its people summoned the will to risk their lives and their futures — as well as those of their children — for a freedom they did not enjoy but knew was their gift from God. Along with their desire to be free came their willingness to engaged in armed rebellion for their freedom.
If government can mandate that I pay for something I don’t want, then what is beyond its power? If the Supreme Court’s decision Thursday paves the way for unprecedented intrusion into personal decisions, then has the Republic all but ceased to exist? If so, then is armed rebellion today justified?
God willing, this oppression will be lifted and America free again before the first shot is fired.”
Or as they put it in the music-video version:
E.) U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, who clearly wasn’t paying attention when he was studying constitutional law back in ophthalmology school:
“Just because a couple people on the Supreme Court declare something to be ‘constitutional’ does not make it so. The whole thing remains unconstitutional.”
F.) Ben Shapiro, editor-at-large of Breitbart.com, who tweeted:
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we await your verdict.
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Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
11:59 am
Gee Jam, I thought this guy was voted in to stop the US from going under financially among other things. The reason the US was downgraded was because there was and still no plan to start erasing the debt. How much was the deficit when this guy took office? How much is it now? How much more is Obamacare going to add to it? Anybody that votes for this guy again better get their “Shovel Ready’ because there is going to be alot more ca-ca to dig just to keep the country’s nose barely above it.
Adam
July 1st, 2012
12:01 pm
But what was and is really striking about the anti-reformers is their cruelty. It would be one thing if, at any point, they had offered any hint of an alternative proposal to help Americans with pre-existing conditions, Americans who simply can’t afford expensive individual insurance, Americans who lose coverage along with their jobs. But it has long been obvious that the opposition’s goal is simply to kill reform, never mind the human consequences. We should all be thankful that, for the moment at least, that effort has failed.
THIS
Sharona
July 1st, 2012
12:02 pm
If nothing else the ObamaCare ruling weakens the element of predictability from Supreme Court decisions.
The days of counting on the usual 5-4 split based on political ideology would appear to be over, at least while the current nine are there.
bman.
July 1st, 2012
12:04 pm
Bro .. .. I understand. I was just curious. Now that it appears as if it’s a GO, I thought I’d better attempt to know a little about it. So many here are either all-in or out on this, but they don’t really know anything about it.
getalife
July 1st, 2012
12:08 pm
orange .
Stop lying.
The gop walked away for taxes on their precious billionaires and gave us our first downgrade.
Real Scootter
July 1st, 2012
12:09 pm
Great song as usual JamVet! I like the moodies.This may be ok the the topic though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpy_pYXSpPA
Hope this works!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
12:10 pm
SoCo/Bro
Been meanin’ to ask — how did that smoked pork roast turn out the other week?
Brosephus™
July 1st, 2012
12:14 pm
bman
I’ve thought the same thing. I have no plans to ever drop insurance coverage for me or the family. I’d be a complete dumbass to work in my field and not carry insurance. I have insurance, and in some cases, I have insurance ON the insurance. I’m not taking any chances.
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Kam
The family warned me that I needed to start doing them at least 2 at a time now. Some that eat very little pork had no problems scarfing it down. Everybody said it was great, but I still think I could have made it better.
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
12:15 pm
Getalife,
I hope nobody gives you a kidney punch.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
12:17 pm
How much was the deficit when this guy took office?
But…but…but…Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.
Soothsayer
July 1st, 2012
12:18 pm
Kam, thanks again for your support over at Wingnut’s blog. I really appreciate it. More than you know.
DannyX
July 1st, 2012
12:19 pm
“How many sitting Presidents have had the country’s credit rating downgraded on their watch?”
What’s the plan Orange? How do the Republicans plan on repairing the damage they did to the deficit? Republicans act like it either never happened or occurred 50 years ago. Its only been 3 and a half years.
When are Republicans planning to repeal their “socialist” unfunded Medicare Part D? Or at the least how are they going to fund it?
Obama is carrying the tab for two unfunded Republican wars that cost at least a trillion dollars, how are the Republicans planning on fixing that screw up?
How do we pay for the Republicans unfunded Dept of Homeland Security?
What about the crazy Bush tax cuts that were handed out during the Republican spending spree which is still on the books? Any plans to take care of that debacle?
What’s the plan?????
getalife
July 1st, 2012
12:19 pm
Orange,
We do not lie and we do not allow drama on this blog.
zeke
July 1st, 2012
12:20 pm
The problem with the decision is that with his opinion Roberts did not rule on the case before the Court, that of the legality of using the Commerce Clause to force this boondoggle on the U..S. taxpayers. Instead he basically rewrote the law, not a Constitutional duty of the Court! And, I do not think they ruled one way or the other that the Obamacare was Constitutional, ONLY THAT THE MANDATE AS A TAX WAS!
getalife
July 1st, 2012
12:20 pm
Sooth,
Did you ask bruno if he snitched?
Was I wrong?
bman.
July 1st, 2012
12:21 pm
maybe I’m looking too far ahead and all…but, shouldn’t they be beginning construction on new hospitals nationwide asap?
JamVet
July 1st, 2012
12:21 pm
Gee Jam, I thought this guy was voted in to stop the US from going under financially among other things.
Then you were naive. HE cannot do that. He is an American president, not a king or an emperor. He cannot sprinkle some magic dust and make all of our gargantuan, decades long problems just go poof! And you should know that.
And to your point, the US did not “go under”, did it?
She took one helluva crushing overhand right to the nose in 2008, but she got back up off of the mat and got back into the fight. At least those of us who still had some semblance of a home, career and future.
The reason the US was downgraded was for a whole raft of reasons. All stemming form the same crimes and all highly inter-related.
That you honestly think that you can compartmentalize all of these issues into wholly separate matters and not address the fundamental, underlying reasons, and perhaps most importantly, who did what to whom, is proof that you will never go much beyond your perpetual ODS and blaming that one single human being for everything that has gone wrong for forty years.
Further, I believe that your unwillingness to stand up the men who actually committed these staggering crimes against the republic explains fully your bizarre loathing for the protesters who do…
Soothsayer
July 1st, 2012
12:22 pm
For my other blog friends here at JB’s blog, you should be aware that Bruno continues to spread lies about me over at Wingnut’s blog.
He then takes offense at my posting of his “flameout” (my name for it) and accuses me of “stalking.”
I have offered him over and over that I will leave him alone if he will stop lying about me, but so far he refuses to stop.
Just thought you’d like to know.
Soothsayer
July 1st, 2012
12:24 pm
“Did you ask bruno if he snitched?
Was I wrong?”
No, because he would never admit it. What’s the use?
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
12:24 pm
I stated something here and my questions get answered with questions?
getalife
July 1st, 2012
12:26 pm
orange,
What was the question?
DannyX
July 1st, 2012
12:26 pm
“I stated something here and my questions get answered with questions?”
You started something you can’t finish.
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
12:26 pm
No Jam, not true. He stated he would cut the deficit during his first term. He didn’t do anything but add to it. Next.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
12:27 pm
Sooth
No problem,
Kyle’s place is suffering from toomanyalphadogs-itis and the new one just added is gonna make for some interesting reading.
My $.02, so take it for what it’s worth — leave Bruno alone. You’re much better than that.
Soothsayer
July 1st, 2012
12:30 pm
You’re probably right, Kam. Good advice.
Tundra Dude
July 1st, 2012
12:30 pm
Thin Guy (thin on good info) wrote, in part:
Marxist Medicine will destroy our healthcare system,
My country (of birth) has had it since 1883. How long should it take till it’s fully destroyed…..
getalife
July 1st, 2012
12:30 pm
Orange,
Yeah, it is tough cutting the deficit after a collapse.
Do you ignore the colllapse?
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
12:31 pm
Oh sorry Danny, I was answering Jams post. Truthfully, you are right, I haven’t heard of Romney’s plan yet. The only plan I have heard from the Republican’s is Cantor’s plan which seems to be a little too draconian for some people, not to say it will not work.
JamVet
July 1st, 2012
12:31 pm
Scoot, loved the extended jam in that version! It is a killer song that I will apparently never, ever tire of. I saw them once back in the day (St. Petersburg, Florida) and they were just that, no props, no onstage gimmicks, just a bunch of cats tearing it up…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KhMomocD28&feature=related
They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
12:31 pm
Kam
I think it is as much alpha “wannabees” as anything else.
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
12:33 pm
Getalife,
Obama has. He just keeps on borrowing.
Tundra Dude
July 1st, 2012
12:33 pm
Calling all (blog) veterans:
Inquiring Mindz want to know:
Has there ever been a topic as popular as this, Health Care…??
Real Scootter
July 1st, 2012
12:33 pm
Dang,y’all got me curious! Guess I will go to Kyle’s place and see what’s going on.
Paulo977
July 1st, 2012
12:34 pm
getalife to Orange
Stop lying…the gop walked away for taxes on their precious billionaires and gave us our first downgrade
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It’s the way some folks advocate , even though most of the time their own interests are at risk!!!
They worship their precious billionaires….just saying!!!
getalife
July 1st, 2012
12:36 pm
“MURDOCH: ‘Doubtful’ Romney can win…”
Trouble in con la la land.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
12:40 pm
Dang,y’all got me curious! Guess I will go to Kyle’s place and see what’s going on.
Watch you step, Scootter. Smitty’s head exploded all over the first three pages.
getalife
July 1st, 2012
12:40 pm
Paulo,
The thing that boggles my mind is their precious billionaires are making record profits and record unlimited legalized bribes.
The don’t need any more welfare yet, the gop and their cons keep giving them welfare then cry about the deficit.
It is low hanging fruit begging to be cut.
JamVet
July 1st, 2012
12:40 pm
Tell me one single solitary politician in my lifetime who has not promised the moon to get elected.
Selectively choosing which never intended to be kept promises seems a fool’s errand.
Better to try and change our corrupt plutocracy. And I mean CHANGE it, not just dabble around he edges like the Tweedledee and Tweedledum Parties do.
Why? Because nothing good ever happens on behalf of us working stiffs.
As much as I opposed PPACA and support Single Payer, the fact remains that it was enacted because of the horrific problems that with our deadly, ultra-corrupt clusterf&ck of a system. Simply put, ours is absolutely the worst health care insurance system in the civilized world. And this is NOT by accident.
And Obamacare, love it, hate it or otherwise, is the very first piece of sweeping legislation in many decades that is a real effort to effect positive change on behalf of millions of struggling American families…
They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
12:41 pm
And Sooth
in the future if you could refrain my taking my posts regarding one blogger (ESPECIALLY WHEN THEIR NAME IS IN THE POST) as you did at Kyle’s to utilize it against another blogger that you have an issue with, it would be much appreciated.
That was a very weak move to imply I was directing my comments to Bruno by leaving off the last part of my post and lumping it in with other comments that Bruno made and others made regarding Bruno.
Thank you
Peace
getalife
July 1st, 2012
12:43 pm
Tundra,
Iraq.
Real Scootter
July 1st, 2012
12:44 pm
JamVet
July 1st, 2012
12:31 pm
Believe it or not Jam,I saw the cult and ARS in Clarkston of all places back in the mid 70s while you were still serving.No frills just great music!
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
12:46 pm
Jam,
He had his shot and he blew it. We are worse off now for it. Maybe if he cleaned house and got a new admin. Something to consider.
Adam
July 1st, 2012
12:46 pm
Have any of you libs considered ONCE the debt? The deficit? The borrowing? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO just give us more entitlements. Let the country rot.
Is there any Republican supporter left who KNOWS that the whole damn thing is paid for? Nope. You all still think it’s some skyrocketing expenditure.
Adam
July 1st, 2012
12:47 pm
Obama IS running on his record. He’s just not running on the record you guys made up for him.
Adam
July 1st, 2012
12:48 pm
Scott in Florida is saying he WILL NOT implement Obamacare
Not particularly worried. Poor people aren’t going to suddenly start voting Republican because their Republican governors denied them medical care, as they have been doing for decades anyway.
They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
12:48 pm
Sooth
To be clear, I am not taking sides on the beef you have with Bruno. I myself mad some jabs about spiking the punch and not the ball before he stormed out. Wasn’t by any means to get him so made he left, but it was to do the same that he was ready to do himself; have fun and make some jokes.
Outside of you throwing my name into the mix, especially when it was purposely down out of context, I could careless.
May the best pillow fighter win
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
12:49 pm
Adam,
“Is there any Republican supporter left who KNOWS that the whole damn thing is paid for? Nope. You all still think it’s some skyrocketing expenditure.”
Throw the BS flag on that. Where’s your proof it’s paid for.
Adam
July 1st, 2012
12:49 pm
Orange12: Getalife,
I hope nobody gives you a kidney punch.
Somehow I doubt your sincerity
They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
12:51 pm
made not mad, but it was a mad joke
“Spike the punch, not the ball”
Adam
July 1st, 2012
12:51 pm
Orange 12: No proof that you will acknowledge. Where’s your proof it isn’t? Since you made the claim?
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
12:51 pm
Adam,
“Somehow I doubt your sincerity”
It was meant in jest, Getalife is one of my best blog buddies
bman.
July 1st, 2012
12:51 pm
“Is there any Republican supporter left who KNOWS that the whole damn thing is paid for? Nope”
I would like to know how it’s paid.
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
12:53 pm
Adam,
How about the National Def. ticker that keeps going up by the microsecond?
Adam
July 1st, 2012
12:53 pm
Orange 12: Actually maybe there IS some proof you will acknowledge. A nd since it requires moving goal posts to a favored Republican talking point, it should be very easy for you to acknowledge the proof that it’s paid for.
Would you like to know what it is?
Adam
July 1st, 2012
12:55 pm
bman, Orange 12: Come on…. you already know how it’s paid for. It’s the first thing Republicans floated to when it wasn’t “unconstitutional!!!’ anymore…
Comeon… it’s on the tip of your tongue…
getalife
July 1st, 2012
12:55 pm
Orange,
If you use austerity after a collapse you get a full blown depression or in the EU’s case back to a recession.
You lost that argument too.
Adam
July 1st, 2012
12:55 pm
Give up yet? I’ll give you one more hint. Senator Akbar says it’s a…..
stephen
July 1st, 2012
12:55 pm
All good efforts. I have to give it to “F”, Ben Shapiro for the sheer clarity and finality in his pronouncement of doom. “C” Roy Nicholson’s bombasity had me until I dozed off a couple of times. “E” Rand Paul is always strong in a contest such as this but I disqualified him when it was obvious he didn’t know what the Supreme Court was for.
St Simons - he-ne-ha-ha-ha
July 1st, 2012
12:57 pm
The irresponsible con ‘i hope he fails’ House caused the downgrade.
Quit whining about Rev Wright,
YOU cons toddler fits are what “damned ‘merka” – to a AA. Own it.
but hey, I’ll play –
who’s the only 2 sitting presidents to preside over depressions?
Two Republican ‘bidnessmens’ that’s who
You think Amerka wants any more o that? another Hoover or Little Nero?
Quit whining cons. You have no answers but wahwahwah.
12 more years. hillary & my indian sister will have to fight it out
for the other 8. Unless Kirsten Gillibrand runs – hubba hubba
too hot fer surfin dude
Adam
July 1st, 2012
12:57 pm
3…
2…
1…
And the answer is:
IT’S A TAX!!!!
That’s how it’s paid for (but not “on the middle class” btw). See one of your own conservative sites for more details:
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/06/obamacare-21-new-or-higher-taxes.html
Brosephus™
July 1st, 2012
12:58 pm
Has there ever been a topic as popular as this, Health Care…??
Sure, fishing. Jay’s annual “gone fishing” posts generates 2000+ posts every time. I think Paul’s not allowed to shut things down until after 2000 posts.
JamVet
July 1st, 2012
12:59 pm
We are worse off now for it.
In spite of your self-assured proclamations, I’m not sure.
Had a Republican been elected, I suspect that the damage would be much, much greater at this point.
But who knows?
I do know that I will never trust the neocons with the physical or economic lives of this nation’s children.
Off to run errands and maybe take a camping chair and sit in the frozen foods section of the grocery store!
Peace out…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiH9yXKSMVM
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
1:00 pm
Adam,
Yeah right. Maybe he just Hired “Harry Potter” to fix it all.
Brosephus™
July 1st, 2012
1:01 pm
I stated something here and my questions get answered with questions?
Well, actually I answered your question with an answer. I then asked you a question in response, but I’m guessing you didn’t see it. There was no attempt made to answer the question that I asked in return, nor was there an acknowledgement of the answer I gave you….
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Brosephus™
July 1st, 2012
11:47 am
How many sitting Presidents have had the country’s credit rating downgraded on their watch?
Well, there has been only one. Why didn’t you ask WHY the credit downgrade happened too? I guess some people will slant facts to push a partisaned idea eventhough the situation has no similar reasoning.
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
1:02 pm
Jam,
Your opinion, fair enough.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
1:04 pm
Punch the ball, not the spike.
bman.
July 1st, 2012
1:06 pm
Adam .. .. Of course I knew it would be taxes.
barking frog
July 1st, 2012
1:07 pm
all health insurance is now
a fed tax because you are
required to have it and you
must pay a tax penalty if
you don’t buy it but if you
can’t afford it the fed will
help you buy it.
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
1:10 pm
Sorry Bro, I was in an exchange with Jam, Getalife and Adam. The reason the country’s credit rating was downgraded was because the Obama Admin. had no plan to show how they could pay down the deficit wuthout causing a substantial risk of going insolvent. We were downgraded due to added risk. There you have it.
Real Scootter
July 1st, 2012
1:12 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
1:04 pm
Smitty was definately on a roll over at Kyle’s.
I’ll just keep visiting here at Jay’s place. And thanks for the warning.Whew!
Tundra Dude
July 1st, 2012
1:13 pm
Sure, fishing. Jay’s annual “gone fishing” posts generates 2000+ posts
Missed that one, too, darn.
Whudda thunk it. Fishing & Iraq.
I wudda guessed, immigration and gay issues.
DannyX
July 1st, 2012
1:19 pm
“There you have it.”
Not even close. It was not the job of the Obama administration to prove anything, it was the job of our Congress. At the time of the downgrade Republicans were entrenched in their uncompromising position which ruined the momentum they gained from the 2010 election. Both parties finally agreed to the horrible super committee plan that both parties are now running away from.
carlosgvv
July 1st, 2012
1:19 pm
I wonder how many realize that, in the upcomming election, the real importance in electing Romney or re-electing Obama may be who they will appoint to the Supreme Court?
The Thin Guy
July 1st, 2012
1:21 pm
Words of Wisdom from The Donald
https://mobile.twitter.com/MissAudMae/status/219270699976626176
Brosephus™
July 1st, 2012
1:22 pm
Orange 12
You’re right, but your answer is not complete.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/spratingreport_080611.pdf
In addition to not having a plan to combat our increasing debt and deficits, there’s also this bit in the report…
· The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan
that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of
what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government’s
medium-term debt dynamics.
· More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness,
stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political
institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic
challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a
negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.
· Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the
gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us
pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be
able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal
consolidation plan that stabilizes the government’s debt dynamics any
time soon.
Those bullet points are directly from S&P’s report. Read the last two and understand why not having a plan looks so bad. Imagine how much of an impact that statements such as:
“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”
“We worked very hard to keep our fingerprints off of these proposals, because we thought — correctly, I think — that the only way the American people would know that a great debate was going on was if the measures were not bipartisan.”
Those two statements were made by a GOP leader, Mitch McConnell, and not just some random member of Congress. When the head of a Congressional contingent is openly communicating things such as that in public forums, what outlook is there in seeing any attempts at coming together to work on our problems. I’m not letting Obama or Democrats off the hook as they are 1/2 of the problem, but by no stretch of the imagination can anybody claim that the GOP is even 1/2 of the solution right now.
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
1:23 pm
Danny, I thought you were gone. Nope you are wrong again. The Republicans gave Obama a viable plan and Obama , himself, put the calabash on it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
1:25 pm
The reason the country’s credit rating was downgraded was because…
Those credit ratings agencies are prostitutes complicit in the global economic meltdown. They sold their ratings to the very people foisting toxic derivatives they claimed to be AAA rated investments, so I wouldn’t stand too close to these buttmunches.
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
1:26 pm
Bro,
You type alot. Wasn’t he given a viable plan by the Republicans which he gave the thumbs down?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
1:28 pm
Words of Wisdom from The Donald
“Buy high, sell low, go into multiple bankruptcies and marry multiple blondes.”
St Simons - he-ne-ha-ha-ha
July 1st, 2012
1:32 pm
These Republicans can’t tell the difference between a tax & a penalty.
(now, THAT’s a funny accounting joke)
getalife
July 1st, 2012
1:36 pm
Orange,
The downgrade did not change anything and Kam is right about their credibility.
The market indicated that after the EU bails out their banks, it is back to business as usual until they collapse the global economy again on a new scam..
ken
July 1st, 2012
1:38 pm
WSJ Chief Economist: 75% of Obamacare Costs Will Fall on Backs of Those Making Less Than $120K a Year
But it’s not a TAX !!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
getalife
July 1st, 2012
1:41 pm
Go Italy!
getalife
July 1st, 2012
1:42 pm
hen,
Was it moore?
He has never been right.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
1:45 pm
getalife
Gonna be a good game.
I say Spain by a goal in OT.
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
1:46 pm
Getalife,
There you go again. However. you are right about the downgrade not changing much.
What it in effect is, is that you had better start showing proof that you are getting your financial house in shape. Obama has not done this nor does he have a clue as to where to start. The next financial downgrade will hurt the country.
Doggone/GA
July 1st, 2012
1:46 pm
“Why didn’t you ask WHY the credit downgrade happened too? I guess some people will slant facts to push a partisaned idea eventhough the situation has no similar reasoning”
And THEN ask: what effect did that downgrade actually have?
answer: NONE
DannyX
July 1st, 2012
1:46 pm
“Danny, I thought you were gone. Nope you are wrong again. The Republicans gave Obama a viable plan and Obama , himself, put the calabash on it.”
If Republicans had come up with a viable plan that was rejected by Obama, Romney would be up by 10 pts right on his way to a big November victory. The fact is the Republican temper tantrum of 2011 put the brakes on their momentum. Romney’s secret plan that cuts taxes again and raises defense spending is doing nothing but reminding the American public of the dreadful Bush years.
What ever happened to the super committee budget cuts? Where is that headed? Oh, and how do Republicans repair the damage they caused to the deficit, you left out the details, something like Republicans are only offering a bogus plan.
getalife
July 1st, 2012
1:49 pm
Orange,
The cuts were on the table and the gop walked away because if their tax pledge.
Do you ever blame your party for anything?
BTW, the gop house did not cut spending and are spending like nothing happened.
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
1:54 pm
Danny,
Wasn’t Cantnor’s plan viable? National Defense is important in my opinion, we don’t need a second rate military especially in todays world hense keep the funding. I beleive the Republican plan would have stopped the downgrade.
getalife
July 1st, 2012
1:55 pm
Kam,
I have to go with the home team and will hope for an upset.
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
1:58 pm
Getalife,
Cuts by who? The Reps or the Dems. The deal was done until Obama nixed it himself.And yes, the Reps do have faults.But they aren’t in the Presidential drivers seat during the last 3 & 1/2 years.
getalife
July 1st, 2012
2:00 pm
Orange,
Your speaker walked away over taxes. The gop house spent another 642 billion more on the mic but to be fair they extended unemployment and food stamp money during this crisis. Their last bill spent 108 billion on road construction, extended low interest rates for students and flood insurance.
I watch them on C-Span.
DannyX
July 1st, 2012
2:01 pm
“Wasn’t Cantnor’s plan viable?”
The American public said hell no.
Most Americans are calling for a combination of budget cuts and tax increases. Republicans thought the 2010 election gave them the right to dictate the terms without compromise, big mistake. You don’t seem to understand that politically it was the Republicans that took a hit during last years budget battle. To say that Cantor’s plan was acceptable is pure fantasy.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
2:02 pm
getalife
If the Spaniards can’t contain Balotelli, the Azzurri will win this game by 2.
getalife
July 1st, 2012
2:04 pm
Kam,
They showed Balotelli talking to Italian fans and it looked like he was sipping their beer.
I like him.
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
2:04 pm
Danny,
Did the American public take a vote on it?
Orange 12
July 1st, 2012
2:07 pm
Getalife,
Obama nixed the bill. Not Boehner.
getalife
July 1st, 2012
2:09 pm
The automatic cut deadline was punted back until next year .
I think they will keep punting on the cuts.
getalife
July 1st, 2012
2:11 pm
Orange,
Your speaker cut and ran. Fact.