The most over-the-top response to ObamaCare ruling
Loading ...I’m trying to decide which right-wing reaction to Thursday’s Supreme Court ruling on ObamaCare is my favorite, and I just can’t settle on one winner. So maybe you could help me.
Here are your options:
A. An angry Glenn Beck — but I repeat myself — referring to Chief Justice John Roberts as “the Dread Pirate Roberts” and announcing that his website would be selling T-shirts featuring Roberts’ picture and the caption “Coward,” all for just $30.
B.) U.S. Rep. Jean Schmidt, R-Ohio, celebrating after hearing initial and incorrect reports that the Supreme Court had struck down the mandate:
C.) The statement put out by Roy Nicholson, chairman of the Mississippi Tea Party, who went all Jefferson Davis on us:
“All of us are now simply chattel of the government to be used and ordered about as they choose. The history books will mark this date as the day our constitutional republic was killed. It will now rest with We The People to decide if it will be resurrected or left to rot in the shallow grave dug for it.
Where is the weeping and wailing? Where is the anger and outrage? Do the people of the country realize what has just been stolen from them? Do the people of the world recognize that the shadow of darkness is now fallen upon them as well and that there remains no defender of their feeble freedoms? The all-out oppression of all people has begun.
Those “occupiers” now controlling the three federal branches of government have joined together in rejecting all Constitutional restraint and in doing so they have severely violated their oaths to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. Together they now stand as blatant usurpers of power and have reduced our constitutional republic, along with all of its freedoms, to nothing more than a dictatorial junta. Becoming a banana republic is next.
When a gang of criminals subvert legitimate government offices and seize all power to themselves without the real consent of the governed their every act and edict is of itself illegal and is outside the bounds of the Rule of Law. In such cases submission is treason. Treason against the Constitution and the valid legitimate government of the nation to which we have pledged our allegiance for years. To resist by all means that are right in the eyes of God is not rebellion or insurrection, it is patriotic resistance to invasion.
May all of us fall on our faces before the Heavenly Judge, repent of our sins, and humbly cry out to Him for mercy on our country. And, may godly courageous leaders rise up in His wisdom and power to lead us in displacing the criminal invaders from their seats and restore our constitutional republic.”
D.) Matt Davis, former spokesman for the Michigan Republican Party, who posed the question:
Is Armed Rebellion Now Justified?
“Implicit in Benjamin Franklin’s fabled response at the conclusion of the Constitutional Convention was a dire warning: That the Republic would one day devolve into tyranny unless we the people prevented it.
In 2008, we the people elected Barack Obama as president, and the 100-year progressive trek to tyranny begun in 1912 with Woodrow Wilson’s election was complete. It cannot be said too many times — for the purposes of emphasis and clarity — that the Constitution was possible ONLY AFTER the American Revolution; and that the war itself would not have been possible without the collective agreement, as so eloquently articulated in the Declaration of Independence, that the course of human events will sometimes justify one group of people to sever themselves from their oppressors.
In other words, America itself was possible only after its people summoned the will to risk their lives and their futures — as well as those of their children — for a freedom they did not enjoy but knew was their gift from God. Along with their desire to be free came their willingness to engaged in armed rebellion for their freedom.
If government can mandate that I pay for something I don’t want, then what is beyond its power? If the Supreme Court’s decision Thursday paves the way for unprecedented intrusion into personal decisions, then has the Republic all but ceased to exist? If so, then is armed rebellion today justified?
God willing, this oppression will be lifted and America free again before the first shot is fired.”
Or as they put it in the music-video version:
E.) U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, who clearly wasn’t paying attention when he was studying constitutional law back in ophthalmology school:
“Just because a couple people on the Supreme Court declare something to be ‘constitutional’ does not make it so. The whole thing remains unconstitutional.”
F.) Ben Shapiro, editor-at-large of Breitbart.com, who tweeted:
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we await your verdict.
– Jay Bookman
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DoubleM
July 2nd, 2012
8:15 am
None of these hysterical conservatives seem to remember that the Affordable Care Act was initially a healthcare plan created by Republicans. This plan was formulated at the conservative think-tank Heritage Foundation, and was touted by Republicans as the solution to the health care crisis. The plan stresses personal responsibility for healthcare, rather than allowing the uninsured to pass on their healthcare costs to those that pay for insurance, and was implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. Sounds like something conservatives would support, right?
Except, of course, when it is proposed by that “Kenyan Socialist” Obama…
larry
July 2nd, 2012
8:17 am
Well, thanks to the ruling, my small business boss got to keep his tax credit, along with 360,000 other small businesses that provided health care to their employees.
It was a win, win all the way around.
Jm
July 2nd, 2012
8:18 am
Double m 8:15 90% lies
stands for decibels
July 2nd, 2012
8:20 am
Balkanization is actually the exact opposite of diversity, ya numpty.
UnU, a wise man once taught that we should give not that which is holy unto the dorks, neither cast ye your pearls before numpties, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Probably a good lesson plan here.
Jm
July 2nd, 2012
8:21 am
Granny, since you don’t seem to understand the HSA problem, take a glance at this
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ObamaCare-Rule-May-Bar-HSAs-ibd-3228396715.html
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
8:21 am
I saw some Republicans on the Sunday morning shows (how can you not? They are ALWAYS on there with their talking points). They ACTUALLY BELIEVE that governors denying medicaid expansion to their citizens will cause their citizens to vote Republican, because they think poor people will blame the Democrats for their governor’s obstinance.
larry
July 2nd, 2012
8:21 am
Except, of course, when it is proposed by that “Kenyan Socialist” Obama…
Yep, funny isnt it, an idea that the Republicans like, the President comes along, says ” Hey, i like that idea, too. Lets get to work” Then the Republicans say ” Well, it wasnt that good of an idea after all.”
Just proves the point that their only mission was not to govern, but it was to obstruct with the idea to make the President a one-termer. So far, it isn’t working out so well for them.
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
8:23 am
This weekend, if Rasmussen is to be given any credibility at all, they will poll on Obamacare repeal again. Let’s see what happens….
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/01/obamacare-supreme-court-ruling_n_1641560.html
FACT CHECK: On keeping your current health plan
July 2nd, 2012
8:24 am
WASHINGTON — In promoting the health care law, President Barack Obama is repeating his persistent and unsubstantiated assurance that Americans who like their health insurance can simply keep it. Republican rival Mitt Romney says quite the opposite, but his doomsday scenario is a stretch.
After the Supreme Court upheld the law last week, Obama stepped forward to tell Americans what good will come from it. Romney was quick to lay out the harm. But some of the evidence they gave to the court of public opinion was suspect.
A look at their claims and how they compare with the facts:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20120702/us-health-care-fact-check/
stands for decibels
July 2nd, 2012
8:27 am
I just found out that our company is likely to end our HSA plan due to the legislation being found constitutional
Kindly provide details on just what it was about your health insurance program that was all-of-a-sudden rendered inoperable due to the individual mandate being held as constitutional?
because the provisions in the PPACA that limit the amount of deductables (basically, it bans crappy insurance plans, which is what most HSAs are unless you don’t actually NEED insurance) have nothing to do with an individual mandate, and would’ve survived unless the SCOTUS had rendered the mandate unseverable.
kayaker 71
July 2nd, 2012
8:27 am
So, now we have the Bush tax cuts expiring in January, Bozocare kicks in with a tax that is not a tax and who gets hurt? Those struggling with loss of a job who are middle class taxpayers and do not need a huge tax increase at this time in their lives. The average tax bill goes up about $500/month. Oh, and I forgot….. “For those making 250K or less, your taxes will not increase…. not one thin dime”. “You can keep your doctor”. “You can keep your insurance company”. “The ACA will “only” cost the American taxpayer 940B dollars”. All lies. And you libs are comfortable letting the government have control of healthcare in this country? The same government that lies, deceives and bribes those who get in it’s way. Chicago thug politics at it’s best/worst run by the biggest thug of all time. And you vote for this arrogant idiot.
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
8:27 am
Five Thirty Eight is predicting almost 300 electoral votes for Obama. These are the same guys that accurately predicted a Republican sweep of the House in 2010, Democrat slim hold in Senate, and that Walker would win his recall.
USMC
July 2nd, 2012
8:27 am
Great article for those of you who espouse Socialism:
NY Times article: What’s a Socialist?
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/07/01/sunday-review/whats-a-socialist.xml;jsessionid=D38BC8CAEDF33FB446E52DE6F9AB62D1?rec=t
It describes Jay and the rest of you to a “T”
TiredOfIt
July 2nd, 2012
8:27 am
Obama announces that breathing is fundamental to life, republican’s hold their breath.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 2nd, 2012
8:28 am
Y’all may remember that I posted a letter from Isakson concerning the anti-bullying against school age Gay Children bill. I thought his response was dumb, but this one is truly…well, you read it and decide…
Dear Mr. (Normal):
Thank you for contacting me regarding LGBT youth. It is an honor to serve you as the representative of the Sixth District of Georgia.
Your concerns regarding LGBT youth are appreciated. As Congress continues to develop an all around education plan, we must closely examine better avenues to ensure that we curb discrimination in our education system. There is no place in our schools for any type of discrimination. I assure you that education is an issue that is of utmost importance to me. I believe that there is no better investment for the well-being of our children and our country than education.
Thank you again for contacting me. Please know I will keep your views in mind as Congress continues to address this issue. For further information, please visit my website. tom.house.gov.
Your truly,
Tom Price, MD
Member of Congress.
He’s good at this too…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLqKVnNpQ4s
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
8:28 am
FACT CHECK: If you like your current plan it gets an upgrade, or you can find a better one somewhere else. If your insurance company goes under it wasn’t a good one to begin with.
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
8:29 am
stands: Kindly provide details on just what it was about your health insurance program that was all-of-a-sudden rendered inoperable due to the individual mandate being held as constitutional?
Profit.
JamVet
July 2nd, 2012
8:29 am
None of these hysterical conservatives seem to remember that the Affordable Care Act was initially a healthcare plan created by Republicans. This plan was formulated at the conservative think-tank Heritage Foundation, and was touted by Republicans as the solution to the health care crisis. The plan stresses personal responsibility for healthcare, rather than allowing the uninsured to pass on their healthcare costs to those that pay for insurance, and was implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts.
Double, why do you think that the Flip Flop Party is getting ready to nominate the paragon of their “flexible virtues” Willard “I was for it before I was against it” Romney?
People who know and worked with him say that they cannot even recognize this guy anymore. His neocon transformation has become that complete.
The man is sellout and principle-free coward who will do and say ANYTHING to get a few more votes…
JamVet
July 2nd, 2012
8:31 am
USMC, you realize that the joke is on you, right?
Because whenever you are asked what is in one of these links that you provide, you have no clue. (After probably the first sentence or two anyway.)
Reading is fundamental! And ADD can be treated…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
July 2nd, 2012
8:33 am
JAMVET et al…
IMO it is irrelevant which “side” originally sold this bill of goods…what matters is that the numbers work against all of us….except for those currently unisured, health insurers, the IRS, and large hospital operators who will not collect 100% of revenue as opposed to 80%..
Mick
July 2nd, 2012
8:34 am
yaker
Why is your glass perpetually half full? Better yet, it always seems to be quite empty…
larry
July 2nd, 2012
8:34 am
Please know I will keep your views in mind as Congress continues to address this issue.
I’m pretty sure the mad doctor will do just that.
Sounded like what Dr. Broun told me. Before i was drawn out of his district. Thank you God.
Paul
July 2nd, 2012
8:37 am
Gov Jindal was on Meet the Press, said how Obamacare was a gargantuan tax increase. Moderator said, just a minute, when a similar plan was instituted in Massachusetts, only 2 percent of households chose to pay the penalty rather than get insurance. So how can you call it a gargantuan tax increase?
Jindal said… umm. it’s government telling you what you can do!!!
Then flipped to Fox. Florida AG, one of leaders in the suit, said about the same talking point “this is the biggest tax increase etc etc’ and the host said ‘wow….”
One host does homework and challenges, other host serves as a foil and listens politely.
I’m interested to see how this plays out. Republicans: it’s the biggest tax increase in the history of the universe! Democrats: 1 or 2 percent of households who don’t want to get insurance and make you pay for their ER visits will pay a few hundred bucks.
Jm
July 2nd, 2012
8:38 am
Sfd
The HSA (which I love) is not related to the individual mandate
If the whole law had been struck down, the HSA issue would not exist
Read the yahoo finance article above
godless heathen
July 2nd, 2012
8:41 am
larry: Well, thanks to the ruling, my small business boss got to keep his tax credit, along with 360,000 other small businesses that provided health care to their employees.
Corporate welfare. I’m glad the benevolent Federal Government ($1.5 trillion in debt) was able to help you out. You can thank our grandchildren when they get to pay the bill.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 2nd, 2012
8:41 am
“neither cast ye your pearls before numpties, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you”
I know, I know, I know …
the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result
Jm
July 2nd, 2012
8:41 am
Out
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
8:42 am
Paul: Gov Jindal was on Meet the Press, said how Obamacare was a gargantuan tax increase. Moderator said, just a minute, when a similar plan was instituted in Massachusetts, only 2 percent of households chose to pay the penalty rather than get insurance. So how can you call it a gargantuan tax increase?
Jindal said… umm. it’s government telling you what you can do!!!
That f***er also just cut all state library funding. And he always cuts health care and education EVERY YEAR.
GT
July 2nd, 2012
8:43 am
Jm the major networks got it right. You have ,or use to, an obligation to the public to not put out this kind of misinformation. The public has gravitated to what they want to believe instead reality and there are plenty of facilitators for this pleasure.
The free world was created by a free press. The modern press has gone rogue. Nothing free about it, it goes to the highest bidder or ratings. How can we expect a moral country when the pillars of this country have sold out? Instead of fighting it the right rolls in it as a means to their purpose. They have invaded the church the same way. The one place they see progressiveness as vogue. Mega churches have taken over community churches, casual over formal, make it easy on them. Over 50% of marriages end in divorce, and not all people get married. Profile the average American over the average American 50 years or even 20 years ago. Labels such as Christian or conservative are cheap now days. Hope is not there anymore, it is on the other side.
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
8:43 am
godless: You can thank our grandchildren when they get to pay the bill.
Are you saying they will be able to afford their own health insurance and choose not to get it, therefore be subject to the mandate and therefore be paying the bill?
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 2nd, 2012
8:43 am
USMC – well, gosh, when you change the definition of what socialism actually IS, then gee, even my dog is socialist!
but, beware – if your side gets to play that game, so does ours … do you REALLY want us to define you arbitrarily???
PJ
July 2nd, 2012
8:44 am
TiredOfIt @8:27 am
Thank you for my ist laugh this morning.
And speaking of the Sunday talk show did anyone else see Brit Hume scream, “Whaaaaat!’, like a little girl on FoxNewsSunday because he disagreed with a comment. Priceless!.
stands for decibels
July 2nd, 2012
8:44 am
If the whole law had been struck down, the HSA issue would not exist
Read the yahoo finance article above
Skimmed the first coupla grafs, but I don’t have to–I’m already well aware of the PPACA’s regulation of high deductable plans, which that article explains.
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
8:44 am
USinUK: do you REALLY want us to define you arbitrarily???
They aren’t worried about that because they have control of the media.
See CNN and Fox for “The mandate was struck down.”
Paul
July 2nd, 2012
8:45 am
Was watching another panel show and a “Republicans can replace with something better person” was asked “with what?” and he said ‘refundable tax credits instead of the mandate.”
So explain this to me, please. A favorite Republican line is “half the people don’t pay any income tax.”
So if you give them a refundable tax credit when they don’t pay income tax, do you give them a check? So you retain and expand the pool of people who don’t pay tax?
How do you pay for it, Republican replacers? Raise taxes on someone else. Cut which program? Or do you deficit fund it?
One good thing about this decision coming four months before the election, it gives plenty of opportunities for Republicans to get specific and watch their talking point papers end up looking like Swiss cheese.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 2nd, 2012
8:46 am
Adam – “See CNN and Fox for “The mandate was struck down.””
that wasn’t due to control – that was due to incompetance
the rush to be first makes people stop actually, you know, ANALYZING …
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 2nd, 2012
8:46 am
Hi Pauly!!! Hope you and Mrs. Paul had a good weekend
JamVet
July 2nd, 2012
8:47 am
IMO it is irrelevant which “side” originally sold this bill of goods..
That you are not remotely concerned about these serial liars, does not change the facts.
The neoconservative movement has proven over and over and over, that they will – exactly like Mitt – say and do ANYTHING to take advantage of the politics. They have demonstrated the gymnastic like ability to change courses on a whim. To wit, their beloved war on terror? Did you not notice how they suddenly seemed VERY war weary on January 21,2009? And VERY concerned about US military interventions around the globe.
I, for one, am completely disgusted with their shape-shifting “integrity” and their situational “ethics”.
So excuse while I throw up thinking about their shameless cowardice and endless Party before Country antics.
Off to pay for the plutocracy.
SINGLE PAYER NOW.
stands for decibels
July 2nd, 2012
8:47 am
It describes Jay and the rest of you to a “T”
It describes most of the civilized world, actually. Might want to consider joining it.
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
8:47 am
USinUK: Ok fine but still, CNN is conservative media. Erin Burnett went on a tirade about how everyone loses with Obamacare, and her reasoning was filled with lies and half truths.
Paul
July 2nd, 2012
8:48 am
USMC
“Great article for those of you who espouse Socialism:”
You’re on the wrong blog for that. Unless you can point to ‘those’ who have said they prefer socialism.
I know, I know. They’re not here. They’re all in Kenya looking for hidden birth certificates.
stands for decibels
July 2nd, 2012
8:49 am
Profit.
…ok. Actually, that’s always Step 3, as in:
Step one: impose crappy high-deductable HSAs
Step two: ???????????
Step three: Profit!
(you can substitute just about any silly right wing scheme for Step One. Works every time.)
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
8:50 am
Paul: Depends on the context. With education and health care I absolutely prefer a socialized structure. With most other things, not so much. But frankly I want to see a good, well-funded, and well operated (like Medicare) health care system. Education needs something similar. Minimum standards per student, no matter where they live.
Paul
July 2nd, 2012
8:50 am
USinUK
Yes, thank you. One of the kids with his little girls came in, then birthday on Wed, another son with his little boys coming for that, then Mrs Paul’s birthday a few days later, then it’s off for a three-week holiday.
Looks like you’ve been cooking up a storm! Did you have a good weekend, also?
TiredOfIt
July 2nd, 2012
8:51 am
USMC “Great article for those of you who espouse Socialism:”
—
“The United States already employs several forms of socialized medicine. The Veteran’s Administration healthcare system is one example; veterans can take advantage of the healthcare offered by the system, as long as they see only VA doctors in VA facilities.
Even HMOs (Health Maintenance Organizations) are socialized, although not always by the government. If a patient participates in an HMO, then the HMO tells them which doctors they can see and which facilities they must access for care. This is true for private HMOs, such as the Kaiser system in California. It’s also true for Tricare, which is a U.S. government healthcare organization used by military families and retired military.”
See Mitt Romney Promote an Individual Mandate
July 2nd, 2012
8:51 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6DrH6P9OC0
Joseph
July 2nd, 2012
8:52 am
http://promisegap.com/
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 2nd, 2012
8:53 am
Paul – I did – made a big-a$$ batch of the sassy summer jam and painted the mister’s office yesterday (because, as a wife, I rock). found a FAB pub out our way for the next time you and Mrs. Paul are in town! the food is K-I-L-L-E-R
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 2nd, 2012
8:53 am
Oh, and give my best to Mrs. Paul – it sounds like you’re having a fantastic 4th with the fam!
godless heathen
July 2nd, 2012
8:53 am
Are you saying they will be able to afford their own health insurance and choose not to get it, therefore be subject to the mandate and therefore be paying the bill?
I’m saying that ACA is going to cost a lot of $$$ that the government doesn’t have.
stands for decibels
July 2nd, 2012
8:54 am
Hey, Joseph? I’ll see your 8.52 and raise ya…
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/29/12483552-chronicling-mitts-mendacity-vol-xxiv?lite
it’s the 24th (!) in a series, and sure to grow much, much longer as Mitt keeps on fibbing.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 2nd, 2012
8:54 am
Adam – “Erin Burnett went on a tirade about how everyone loses with Obamacare, and her reasoning was filled with lies and half truths.”
meanwhile FOX did 5 great things about Obamacare …
nutty, I tells ya!
Paul
July 2nd, 2012
8:54 am
Adam 8:50
See, that’s the difference I see here between the competing viewpoints. One says “you’re all socialists” and the other responds “for these kinds of programs, which we’ve had for generations, yes, I am. But what about you? You and your fellow bloggers whose monikers indicate you had a similar life were/are all part of an organization in which you participate(d) in one of the largest socialized medicine programs this country has ever seen! To which they reply “I’m not a socialist! That’s not socialism! I earned it! I read all about it in a foxhole!!!”
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
8:55 am
godless: I’m saying that ACA is going to cost a lot of $$$ that the government doesn’t have.
But what about all those TAXES that are in it? Are you saying those don’t exist? Or that those taxes really aren’t so bad after all?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
July 2nd, 2012
8:55 am
JAMVET,
I guess it doesn’t matter to you or anyone who simply wants to bash the party they disagree with….I”m interested in outcomes…
BTW, all politicians lie to some extent and think one party lies or contradicts itself more than another is nuts…ie the 17 DEMS who voted for contempt charges solely to retain NRA cash….look no further for evidence that the system is conflicted to serving our best interests…
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
Paul: In the end, socialized medicine for veterans is basically a contract. A contract with a government that some of them ACTIVELY are trying to tear down. The idea is: You risk your life, sometimes you get hurt, sometimes you don’t, but either way we will take care of you out of the goodness of our hearts for helping defend our country. And “our” and “us” means every taxpayer. The government is the taxpayers, and they pay for YOU to have health care.
That’s socialism. From each according to their ability, to the veterans according to their need.
stands for decibels
July 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
that wasn’t due to control – that was due to incompetance
the rush to be first makes people stop actually, you know, ANALYZING …
I really, really, REALLY wish there were a voluntary ban in DC on watching cable news between now and the end of, say, November.
(November 2014, maybe.)
From what I understand, everyone has those dumbass channels turned on 24/7 in their offices. Even the fzckin’ President bought, for a minute, the early-report nonsense.
arghhh.
Paul
July 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
USinUK
Saw the jam recipe. Mmmmmm….
“made a big-a$$ batch of the sassy summer jam and painted the mister’s office yesterday (because, as a wife, I rock)”
But a question: once you painted the mister’s office with it, was it still sticky when it dried? And doesn’t his tongue stick to the walls?
Yes, you DO rock!
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
9:00 am
Paul: And as I mentioned. I have no problem with socialism in medicine. I just wish it applied to everyone, not just veterans, old people, and a very small segment of poor people (administered very poorly ON PURPOSE by some states. EFF THE BLOCK GRANTS).
Paul
July 2nd, 2012
9:00 am
USinUK
She says “Thanks!” and “Hi!” back atcha’!
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 2nd, 2012
9:00 am
Paul – hahahaha … perfect for all your scone needs – sassy summer jam on your walls!
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
9:01 am
stands: Even the fzckin’ President bought, for a minute, the early-report nonsense.
Imagine if Bush was in office at the time. He would have jumped up right then and given a gut-speech. Or whatever was prepared ahead of time. he would have REACTED. Thankfully our current LEADER decided to exercise LEADERSHIP by thinking before speaking.
Paul
July 2nd, 2012
9:02 am
Adam,
Oh, I get the contract part and don’t begrudge them at all. But it’s a ‘contract’ that can be modified by Congress at any time. What does get me, though, and what I’d like to see them acknowledge, is that which they fight tooth and nail against others having is the same as that which they’ve participated in for years. It appears to be a most uncomfortable admission for many.
Republican Pick Big Business Over Poor Americans, Students
July 2nd, 2012
9:03 am
If you are not in the 1% America, you are on your OWN!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy-az8ZR0Og
GT
July 2nd, 2012
9:05 am
CNN should have heads rolling over there, FOX is handing out raises. The fact ,that they don’t ,leads me to believe their misreporting was a cheap publicity trick. I think they handed the South Carolina debates to NG to drive up ratings. That was by far the worst moderated event during the primaries, FOX was a Republican pep rally not a debate.. The beauty to America’s credit is the rating of CNN are going down. They had to remove King to a average reporting job, or did they? When watching the news is turning into a cross word puzzle it is not serving it’s purpose. I even wonder if Wolf Blitzer is his real name, or his acting name.
TiredOfIt
July 2nd, 2012
9:06 am
godless heathen “I’m saying that ACA is going to cost a lot of $$$ that the government doesn’t have.”
Take it from the DOD. We have more than enough money to police the world.
Joseph
July 2nd, 2012
9:08 am
stands for decibels:
Sorry but I couldn’t possibly stomach the thought of reading a blog from Rachael Maddcow….
dbm
July 2nd, 2012
9:10 am
Why did Matt Davis say it started with Woodrow Wilson? Wasn’t Teddy Roosevelt considered a progressive, and didn’t he do a lot to expand government? And there was wrongful government interference and control even before the Civil War (e.g. tariffs).
Freedom and the Constitution are dying the death of a thousand cuts, or maybe that should be a million or a billion. It’s a very slow process, and they aren’t dead yet.
In the extremely surprising event that any of the above are thrown in jail for saying what they said, then it would be time to ask if armed rebellion is justified.
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
9:13 am
Sorry but I couldn’t possibly stomach the thought of reading a blog from Rachael Maddcow
Would it help if I told you that she doesn’t write the blog?
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
9:14 am
BEE TEE DUB – SHEETZ
Road Scholar
July 2nd, 2012
9:17 am
Jay, there was a show on last night (I believe it was CNN) that had Dr Sanjay Gupta compare the healthcare systems in many countries including Taiwan and Switzerland. I am having problems finding a link. Can all those interested help find the link to the show?
It was very informative and shot down many of the myths/ alleged facts by many.
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
9:19 am
Road Scholar: Fareed Zakaria did something on that same subject. According to him. Taiwan did the study, and when he asked about America (pre-Obamacare) they said (paraphrased) “You look at America when you want to know how NOT to do health care.”
TiredOfIt
July 2nd, 2012
9:26 am
So Rush still hasn’t left the country (over ACA passing) and Sean still hasn’t been water-boarded. They are truly great Americans and they are not afraid to remind you of it.
stands for decibels
July 2nd, 2012
9:28 am
Sorry but I couldn’t possibly stomach the thought of reading a blog from Rachael [Maddow]….
well imagine how I felt about reading something purporting to be about a “promise gap” you’d posted?
headin’ upstairs.
Quagmire
July 2nd, 2012
9:36 am
Now the Constitution was not in JEOPARDY when Bush used it as Toliet paper.
Yeah, that's the ticket...
July 2nd, 2012
9:59 am
If a tax solved the healthcare issue, maybe one will work for the employment issue as well.. Lets’ start with say, oh, how about 10,000.00 per head. Get a job or pay a penatly.
TiredOfIt
July 2nd, 2012
10:21 am
Murdoch Continues Dumping On Mitt Romney On Twitter. I guess the only reason anyone pays attention to Mitt is his money.
GT
July 2nd, 2012
10:22 am
The Constitution protects all the people. It only changes as the people change. We allowed huge immigration because we needed labor and someone to do the work. We allowed slavery for the same purpose. In doing so we changed America’s make up. Now we want to freeze every thing to some previous point in time, to raise the walls of the classes, maybe even build a firewall between the poor and the rich by destroying the middle class. The genius of the Constitution is it doesn’t allow this convenience. Unlike the Church that allows divorce and much of it’s charter violated. or political bodies that sell out to big money,the Supreme Court has proven sacred. Only the selfish that didn’t get their way are looking for a fix. The rest of us live under it’s protection against those few.
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
10:23 am
Lets’ start with say, oh, how about 10,000.00 per head. Get a job or pay a penalty.
If you include that in a law for job training and student grants, sure. Obviously it has to be smart or I won’t support it.
GT
July 2nd, 2012
10:53 am
Is speeding tickets a tax?
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
11:10 am
GT: Is speeding tickets a tax?
Most definitely.
Yeah, that's the ticket...
July 2nd, 2012
3:09 pm
@Adam
How to best use the $$$ once raised is open discussion, I was more intrigued with the idea of using an a federally enforced significant tax (or penalty, call it what you will) to curtail self-destructive behavior.
Mr Right
July 2nd, 2012
4:33 pm
Obama and co. said it wasn’t a tax when they were ramming it down Americas you know what, then they said it was a tax to save it, now they say it’s not a tax! I would have to agree with Sara Palin when she said “Obama lied”.
Adam
July 2nd, 2012
10:15 pm
I would have to agree with Sara Palin when she said “Obama lied”.
And whether or not Obama (someone you haven’t voted for and have every intention of not voting for) lies or keeps promises you never supported – matters to you why?
Stop pretending like you care whether or not he lied. You only wish he had called it a tax so that your propaganda machine could have taken it down from the beginning. You can’t rewrite history.
Mick
July 3rd, 2012
7:54 am
Good morning fellow americans…the republic is still standing and despite the desperate rantings of some that the sky is falling, here comes another 4th of july as we move toward another pivotal election. Really, all you naysayers and fainting couch residents – get a grip!!! Enjoy the celebrations, freedom is as strong as ever, it’s just more expensive…