The most over-the-top response to ObamaCare ruling
Loading ...I’m trying to decide which right-wing reaction to Thursday’s Supreme Court ruling on ObamaCare is my favorite, and I just can’t settle on one winner. So maybe you could help me.
Here are your options:
A. An angry Glenn Beck — but I repeat myself — referring to Chief Justice John Roberts as “the Dread Pirate Roberts” and announcing that his website would be selling T-shirts featuring Roberts’ picture and the caption “Coward,” all for just $30.
B.) U.S. Rep. Jean Schmidt, R-Ohio, celebrating after hearing initial and incorrect reports that the Supreme Court had struck down the mandate:
C.) The statement put out by Roy Nicholson, chairman of the Mississippi Tea Party, who went all Jefferson Davis on us:
“All of us are now simply chattel of the government to be used and ordered about as they choose. The history books will mark this date as the day our constitutional republic was killed. It will now rest with We The People to decide if it will be resurrected or left to rot in the shallow grave dug for it.
Where is the weeping and wailing? Where is the anger and outrage? Do the people of the country realize what has just been stolen from them? Do the people of the world recognize that the shadow of darkness is now fallen upon them as well and that there remains no defender of their feeble freedoms? The all-out oppression of all people has begun.
Those “occupiers” now controlling the three federal branches of government have joined together in rejecting all Constitutional restraint and in doing so they have severely violated their oaths to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. Together they now stand as blatant usurpers of power and have reduced our constitutional republic, along with all of its freedoms, to nothing more than a dictatorial junta. Becoming a banana republic is next.
When a gang of criminals subvert legitimate government offices and seize all power to themselves without the real consent of the governed their every act and edict is of itself illegal and is outside the bounds of the Rule of Law. In such cases submission is treason. Treason against the Constitution and the valid legitimate government of the nation to which we have pledged our allegiance for years. To resist by all means that are right in the eyes of God is not rebellion or insurrection, it is patriotic resistance to invasion.
May all of us fall on our faces before the Heavenly Judge, repent of our sins, and humbly cry out to Him for mercy on our country. And, may godly courageous leaders rise up in His wisdom and power to lead us in displacing the criminal invaders from their seats and restore our constitutional republic.”
D.) Matt Davis, former spokesman for the Michigan Republican Party, who posed the question:
Is Armed Rebellion Now Justified?
“Implicit in Benjamin Franklin’s fabled response at the conclusion of the Constitutional Convention was a dire warning: That the Republic would one day devolve into tyranny unless we the people prevented it.
In 2008, we the people elected Barack Obama as president, and the 100-year progressive trek to tyranny begun in 1912 with Woodrow Wilson’s election was complete. It cannot be said too many times — for the purposes of emphasis and clarity — that the Constitution was possible ONLY AFTER the American Revolution; and that the war itself would not have been possible without the collective agreement, as so eloquently articulated in the Declaration of Independence, that the course of human events will sometimes justify one group of people to sever themselves from their oppressors.
In other words, America itself was possible only after its people summoned the will to risk their lives and their futures — as well as those of their children — for a freedom they did not enjoy but knew was their gift from God. Along with their desire to be free came their willingness to engaged in armed rebellion for their freedom.
If government can mandate that I pay for something I don’t want, then what is beyond its power? If the Supreme Court’s decision Thursday paves the way for unprecedented intrusion into personal decisions, then has the Republic all but ceased to exist? If so, then is armed rebellion today justified?
God willing, this oppression will be lifted and America free again before the first shot is fired.”
Or as they put it in the music-video version:
E.) U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, who clearly wasn’t paying attention when he was studying constitutional law back in ophthalmology school:
“Just because a couple people on the Supreme Court declare something to be ‘constitutional’ does not make it so. The whole thing remains unconstitutional.”
F.) Ben Shapiro, editor-at-large of Breitbart.com, who tweeted:
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we await your verdict.
– Jay Bookman
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They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
7:08 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v54n4-gzHck
Jam: TURN IT UP
godless heathen
July 1st, 2012
7:08 pm
IMHO, It is a mortal sin to slice up a home-grown tomato when it is still green. What a waste.
I went to the orchard last w/e and picked a 1/2 bushel of Red Globes. Picked ‘em myself and there wasn’t a bruise on a one of them when they got dead rip. Got them all in the freezer now, except the ones that went into the delicious ice-cream and cobbler I made today.
Started raining here about 1/2 hour ago. Suweet!
Real Scootter
July 1st, 2012
7:09 pm
They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
6:56 pm
Never heard that TBS! I like it.
godless heathen
July 1st, 2012
7:09 pm
ripe not rip
Midori
July 1st, 2012
7:11 pm
Josef,
have you seen the Facebook one?
They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
7:13 pm
Bro: one more for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2F_hGwD26g
Brosephus™
July 1st, 2012
7:15 pm
I woulda made a good homie and you woulda made a good honkie!
LOL at both of us!
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They BOTH
That AIC is straight righteous. I could listen to them all day.
Real Scootter
July 1st, 2012
7:17 pm
godless heathen
July 1st, 2012
7:08 pm
Dang boy,where you frum? Talk about a mortal sin! Freezin red globes?
stands for decibels
July 1st, 2012
7:20 pm
Can you just be men and say whatever happened before today is left in that half of the year?
Not that I took that to be particularly directed in my direction, but I do admit to being sucked into the soap-opera aspects of these comments section; it’s kind of hard not to, particularly when there are particular actors who work so very hard to be noticed.
But I do hear ya; focusing on listening to others and contributing what you can would be a smart thing for more of us to at least try to do.
anyway, I’m about to head out for a run (crazy, huh?). Later!
josef
July 1st, 2012
7:23 pm
Midori
Those are a riot!
Recon 0311 2533
July 1st, 2012
7:23 pm
It was good to hear first hand from Chief Warrant Officer Ronald Young in church today about his capture and rescue by Marine Corps Recon during 03 in the town of Samarra Iraq. Semper Fi
josef
July 1st, 2012
7:24 pm
SFD
You’re going to do WHAT? Are you frikken insane, Mate?
Brosephus™
July 1st, 2012
7:25 pm
They BOTH
Haven’t heard that Billie Jean before, and I’m a certified Jackson fan. That one’s pretty powerful. The Tool is a good one too. I’m gonna teach myself the guitar just to play Sober.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCSs5QggRUk
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Real Scootter
My daughter came in while I was playing that Psychostick. As a result, I had to listen to that song about 5 times in a row.
Brosephus™
July 1st, 2012
7:26 pm
anyway, I’m about to head out for a run (crazy, huh?). Later!
No running here. I’m looking at raindrops the size of nickels.
josef
July 1st, 2012
7:28 pm
BROSEPHUS
” I had to listen to that song about 5 times in a row.”
Oh, lemme tell ya, those days have just begun…
Real Scootter
July 1st, 2012
7:32 pm
My daughter came in while I was playing that Psychostick. As a result, I had to listen to that song about 5 times in a row.
Hail fire Bro! I had to break out the bong.
godless heathen
July 1st, 2012
7:33 pm
Dang boy,where you frum? Talk about a mortal sin! Freezin red globes?
Ate all I could. Been real regular this week. But they be good frozen. Probably go back and get some more to can.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
7:41 pm
Hiya Midori!
Holy crap that was hilarious.
Real Scootter
July 1st, 2012
7:42 pm
Ate all I could. Been real regular this week. But they be good frozen. Probably go back and get some more to can.
I hear ya on the regular thing gh! I can go with canning but have honestly nver heard of freezing.
Brosephus™
July 1st, 2012
7:42 pm
josef
If I could list the videos we watched between my posts, you’d laugh your a$$ off. It went from a song about beer to the Muppets “Ma na ma na”, Animal vs Buddy Rich drumming, Sheila E. drumming, and finished off with The Double Dutch Bus.
josef
July 1st, 2012
7:43 pm
Heathen
Canned is the way to go…used to sneak down to Granny’s storm house, get a quart jar, sneak out the salt and black pepper and a bowl, and eat ‘em up in hiding…she didn’t take highly to not telling her before you took some of her canning….
They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
7:44 pm
Bro
You probably have seen this one already….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT_zo9MzRvo
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
7:44 pm
Started raining here about 1/2 hour ago. Suweet!
No running here. I’m looking at raindrops the size of nickels.
No offense, but FOAD!
josef
July 1st, 2012
7:45 pm
Where the hell is that rain y’all keep talking about…none here…would that there were…
josef
July 1st, 2012
7:45 pm
Yeah, what K’chak said @ 7:44
Recon 0311 2533
July 1st, 2012
7:46 pm
Goodness, run in the early morning or late evening. It’s too hot out there now but then again I can remember way back when running in 90 plus degree heat chanting cadence “recon, ranger, UDT we all came from the infantry”.
josef
July 1st, 2012
7:48 pm
BROSEPHUS
My grandbabies love that muppets one, too…
SCOOTTER
Don’t freeze tomatoes? They do real well…and if you know what you’re doing (and Mama did) you can freeze green ones, too…
Course in this day and age, you can get plenty green ones all year round…
Brosephus™
July 1st, 2012
7:49 pm
No offense, but FOAD!
Only when the Mrs. is at home…
Actually, she got hit by golf ball size (her estimate) hail, so I’m waiting on her to get home so I can check out the truck. I could hear it hitting the truck when I was on the phone with her.
Recon 0311 2533
July 1st, 2012
7:53 pm
Sure could use some rain but so far no signs of any around Cumming.
Real Scootter
July 1st, 2012
7:58 pm
Recon 0311 2533
July 1st, 2012
7:46 pm
Dang Del,you should have joinrd the USAF like I did.If it got to hot to run all you had to do is whine and they would send you to do KP or Scadron laundry!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
8:00 pm
SoCo/Bro
I was working in the Acworth/Kennesaw area quite a few years ago and was hit with baseball/softball sized hail
Not a pretty sight and $1500 damage on my truck.
granny godzilla
July 1st, 2012
8:01 pm
good lord almighty!
it’s a tie.
some nincompoops, some sociopaths. no surprises.
ask me my favorite? g’head ask me.
a phone call at about 10:20 that morning grudgingly congratulatory complete with a grocey list.
god bless america.
stay cool.
Recon 0311 2533
July 1st, 2012
8:04 pm
Real Scooter,
When and if I reach that big patrol base in the sky I’ll request a transfer to the USAF. Thanks for the tip.
Real Scootter
July 1st, 2012
8:05 pm
granny godzilla
July 1st, 2012
8:01 pm
Did I miss something or have I had too much beer?
Oscar
July 1st, 2012
8:11 pm
Nineteen weeks and two days.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
8:13 pm
If I had ears on my cornstalks, I be picking up popcorn off the ground now.
Just sayin’.
Real Scootter
July 1st, 2012
8:16 pm
You are welcome for the tip Recon!
I served during the”conflict” and was as safe as in the Boy Scouts and ate better too.
Thanks for covering my azz!
Real Scootter
July 1st, 2012
8:18 pm
If I had ears on my cornstalks, I be picking up popcorn off the ground now.
ROFLMAO Kam!!!! That’s HOT
Brosephus™
July 1st, 2012
8:18 pm
Kam
The damage factor is what I’m worried about. It didn’t sound like it fell for a long time, and I know there was no broken glass. She couldn’t tell whether there were any dents at the time. She was more worried, and rightfully so, about glass breakage.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 1st, 2012
8:21 pm
Headline: “Recent Athens incidents show people more ready to defend selves, property”
“These and other recent cases involve very different facts, but one theme resonates as a common denominator: citizens seem more ready these days to protect themselves or others who may be in mortal danger by using a gun,” Carlson said.
Citizens are bombarded every day by media reports of crime in their own towns and elsewhere.
“People have grown tired of crime and are willing to confront it,” Carlson said.”
http://onlineathens.com/local-news/2012-06-30/recent-athens-incidents-show-people-more-ready-defend-selves-property#.T_DkExSDrKI.email
godless heathen
July 1st, 2012
8:22 pm
On Bradley’s blog someone posted: It was so hot at Turner Field today that the pizza was warm.
0.7 inches of rain here and it’s still raining. Eat it suckas!!!!!!
They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
8:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sutPjUS5Pf8&feature=related
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
8:25 pm
SoCo/Bro
It’s probably not too bad then, maybe even barely noticeable. I’d still take it to a professional and have it inspected and documented.
Redneck Convert (R--and ;proud of it)
July 1st, 2012
8:26 pm
Well, I say the most over the top response to the Activist Court ruling was the one I saw up at Billy Bob’s last night. Some guy was saying the SC ruling wasn’t so bad. Then Bubba Snedegar come up from behind and brung a beer bottle down right on top of his head. And while the guy was on the floor Bubba flung his wallet at him and said “Here, if you’re going to rob me to pay the insurance of a bunch of bums you might as well go all the way.” Anyway, folks sure are touchy about this Obamacare.
I’m awful glad the trailer’s got air conditioning. You could fry a egg on the top of that old washing machine out in the front yard. See you tomorrow everybody.
Recon 0311 2533
July 1st, 2012
8:35 pm
0311/8541,
I was in Greece, Pilos Greece up on the Albanian border just before Vietnam broke out. The local people were friendly but kept their distance for the most part. A far different country now.
They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
8:36 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAdlZ2F-fs8
They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
8:40 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nptMn4YMCCM&feature=related
They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
8:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOzSCdm5qeo&feature=related
Adam
July 1st, 2012
8:47 pm
RB: When in the hell are you going to share the results of that survey you’ve been pretending to do for at least 6 months? You do know at this point nobody would bother believing you actually did it don’t you?
Ha! I already knew YOU wouldn’t believe me. But I am doing exactly what you wanted. I have ASKED the business owners and managers. While I knew you wouldn’t ever believe the results anyway, I didn’t know you would pretend that you cared about the time frame. Kudos to you for making up a reason to invalidate results you haven’t even seen yet.
But in case you’re curious about what you might expect to see from the opinions of business owners and managers, here is something for you to read:
http://guides.wsj.com/management/recruiting-hiring-and-firing/how-to-reduce-employee-turnover/
Notice not a single aspect of that indicates YOUR contention that employees are just lazy. Successful managers know that treating their employees like scum, even just in their minds, is bad business. But apparently you’ve been “successful” despite that. So kudos to you. Carry on.
Mike
July 1st, 2012
8:48 pm
Freedom is not being tied down to a single employer for your health insurance, especially if you have a “pre-existing condition”. And, those are defined anyway the insurance company wants to, if you live in Georgia.
Free at last!!!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
July 1st, 2012
8:48 pm
Recon 0311 2533 :
Yep ……….. I would hate to be there now.
Adam
July 1st, 2012
8:53 pm
HEADLINE: Obamacare Support Rises After Supreme Court Ruling, Poll Finds
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/01/obamacare-supreme-court-ruling_n_1641560.html
If that trend keeps up I expect Republicans to drop this like $5 gas!
Mary Elizabeth
July 1st, 2012
9:19 pm
I highly recommend that any reader – who is interested in an in depth discussion of America’s idealism, spirituality, the thinking of our founding fathers as well as Lincoln’s and Frederick Douglass’ – listen to this hour presentation, through interview, with philosopher and professor, Jacob Needleman, as presented, today, on Public Radio. See link, below:
http://www.onbeing.org/program/inward-work-democracy-jacob-needleman/222/extraaudio?embed=1
Brosephus™
July 1st, 2012
9:29 pm
I figure this is how most of America will look whle they are watching the presidential debates this fall.
http://tinyurl.com/76ouqs5
getalife
July 1st, 2012
9:42 pm
Business is great at the local casino. Hotel is open and packed full of tourists.
My Indian friends are mad at me because I broke even and did not donate.
Well, except for dinner and tips.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
9:50 pm
Water is now falling from the sky!
Cool beans!
Adam
July 1st, 2012
9:51 pm
DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNN!
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/june-29-obama-rises-to-67-8-percent/
Adam
July 1st, 2012
9:52 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il1vY2IQATs
Excessive celebration. Yep. That’s me.
HAPPY UPHELD WEEKEND, EVERYONE!
AtlJack
July 1st, 2012
10:06 pm
The crazies will eventually disappear. A few years ago signs saying: “Get US Out of The UN were opted everywhere- now they’re gone.
There were kooks called The John Birch Society-they’re gone too.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
July 1st, 2012
10:06 pm
Well, that was short lived.
^&*(*&%$$# $%^) and (*%#%&* )*$#@!@#! and !@%&*&$!!&er!!!!!!!!!
Just sayin’.
They BOTH suck
July 1st, 2012
10:10 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6teeBW5tB-8
Good night
stands for decibels
July 1st, 2012
10:22 pm
You’re going to do WHAT? Are you frikken insane, Mate?
It wasn’t so bad–heavily shaded path. Yeah, it was 98 or so in the shade at the start, but as the sun faded and a breeze kicked up it was like most any summer run.
/drive-by
Jm
July 1st, 2012
11:35 pm
Tbs
You need to “unplug” pal
In the name of a certain poster
Get a life
G Mare
July 1st, 2012
11:37 pm
Jm, you need to lighten up.
Tom Middleton
July 2nd, 2012
12:14 am
For anyone interested, here’s a list of 21 lies Mitt told while campaigning last week. And with that off my mind for the good of us all, now I can sleep. I mean, “ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free, right”? Not with Mitt in charge!
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/29/12483552-chronicling-mitts-mendacity-vol-xxiv?lite
FruitNewt
July 2nd, 2012
12:42 am
@AtlJack
No, the John Birchers didn’t go away—you just don’t see them anymore. Now they are called “the Koch brothers” and are major, major donors to the Republicans. Look them up; you’ll see the John Birch Society there alright.
Oscar
July 2nd, 2012
12:58 am
Mary Elizabeth
July 1st, 2012
9:19 pm
_____________
The thinking of men that were alive in 1789 is of some interest, and Lincole is a historical character, but only in relative terms. There are other thinkers as well.
And we have problems that they could not comtempla. They had to find imperfect ways to deal with probems of their day.
And we have to find ways to deal with problems of our time.
seabeau
July 2nd, 2012
5:24 am
Its time for the States to call for Constitutional Convention to renew the restrainsts on the Federal Government crafted by the Founders, but destoryed by the Civil War. Its either that or blood in the streets. Remember liberals,diversity has another name,Balkinization!
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
July 2nd, 2012
5:57 am
“Remember liberals,diversity has another name,Balkinization!”
Balkanization is actually the exact opposite of diversity, ya numpty.
it refers to BREAKING UP into homogenous areas rather than bringing the diverse areas together.
sheesh.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 2nd, 2012
6:37 am
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/page/2/
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 2nd, 2012
6:39 am
Sorry ’bout that…go to bad lip reading and listen…ver’ funny!
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 2nd, 2012
6:42 am
Scout? Is that you??
http://lolcats.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/06/30/funny-cat-pictures-out-of-the-blue-he-began-to-speak-in-tongues/
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 2nd, 2012
6:43 am
…and this is just plain ol’ Normal…
http://lolcats.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/06/29/funny-cat-pictures-agnosticat-listens-to-both-sides/
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 2nd, 2012
6:47 am
Now in economy size…
http://history.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/07/01/funny-pictures-history-human-bullion/
Misty Fyed
July 2nd, 2012
7:01 am
I liked Florida’s response.. We’re just not going to do it. I hope other states join in on that.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
July 2nd, 2012
7:06 am
Misty Fyed
July 2nd, 2012
7:01 am
Me too. Then the federal Government can arrest their Governors, make them submit, and then there will be even more Federal power in the States. More is better, right?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 2nd, 2012
7:11 am
Yep, Misty, for every GOP governor who holds back health care for his state an opportunity for the Democrats is created.
It’s a great idea.
Mary Elizabeth
July 2nd, 2012
7:18 am
Oscar, 12:58 am
What you say is true. Why would you assume I do not realize this? There are many routes to enlightenment. If you take the time to listen to the Needleman interview, I think you will find it enlightening.
The deeper one delves into any area of knowledge, or understanding, the more enlightened one becomes. It is not a matter of expanse of knowledge, but of depth of knowledge, or understanding. I have a teacher’s innate propensity to want to share thinking of quality which I discover. I shared the link to Needleman’s interview, which I heard for the first time yesterday afternoon, with readers on this blog because most of the topics he discussed had been explored, recently, by others on this blog.
I hope that you, and others, will take the time to listen to Needleman’s thoughts. I think you will find his thinking rewarding.
Mary Elizabeth
July 2nd, 2012
7:22 am
P. S. And problems are better solved – with lasting results – by enlightened minds, in prior times of history, as well as now.
stands for decibels
July 2nd, 2012
7:26 am
Its time for the States to call for Constitutional Convention to renew the restrainsts on the Federal Government crafted by the Founders, but destoryed by the Civil War.
heh. yep, better 147 years late than never.
You get right to work on that, y’hear?
stands for decibels
July 2nd, 2012
7:29 am
the federal Government can arrest their Governors
It’ll make for some nice news pieces coupla weeks after the general election, when we’ll need some diversions from the post-holiday blues I guess.
stands for decibels
July 2nd, 2012
7:30 am
someone help me out here–I’m too lazy to look it up–if the individual states don’t submit their own exchanges, doesn’t the PPACA simply substitute one from the Federales, anyway?
I’m assuming that this is just BS posturing on the part of a-holes like the bald freak from Florida.
Jm
July 2nd, 2012
7:37 am
Sfd 7:30 first para
I believe you are correct
Jm
July 2nd, 2012
7:44 am
“Is Armed Rebellion Now Justified?’”
If you believe taxing non activity is way beyond absurd, probably yes.
It would just be better to work your tail off through the political process though.
Emigration is also a rational response.
TiredOfIt
July 2nd, 2012
7:44 am
The problem with republicans is they get the political views from entertainers, yet they hate Hollywood. I wonder where they get the medical opinions from; Grey’s Anatomy or House?
Jm
July 2nd, 2012
7:51 am
” I wonder where they get the medical opinions from; Grey’s Anatomy or House?”
No. From doctors.
Another case of simple answers to stupid questions.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
July 2nd, 2012
7:51 am
I’m still struggling with the idea that this record breaking legislation in now law despite public opinion against it…..I’m fearful this will cost all of you in support of President Trillion as the fallout will likely cost him re-election…this new tax is going to hurt every one of us…
It will not make healthcare more affordable but will in fact increase our costs up to 40%….the taxes on investment income et al are not immaterial…..
Jm
July 2nd, 2012
7:54 am
Stevie
I just found out that our company is likely to end our HSA plan due to the legislation being found constitutional
What did Obama say about no changes? I look forward to finding out our premium increases.
Obama lies. In his defense, he is a dirtbag politician.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 2nd, 2012
7:58 am
“I just found out that our company is likely to end our HSA plan due to the legislation being found constitutional”
Really?
Then you work for a dunderhead.
Career envy?
Jm
July 2nd, 2012
8:02 am
“Then you work for a dunderhead.” nope
“career envy?”. None
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
July 2nd, 2012
8:03 am
JM,
Two of my customers that employ collectively over 40,000 requested calculation of 5-year cost to pay tax per employee plus small stipend to offset 12K per employee benefits expense. If they pursue, employees will need to get healthcare from exhange at 8K less than current pooled employer cost.
The winners in this deal are: kids between 18 and 26, those with pre-existing conditions (not insurance), health insurers, the IRS, and large heathcare providers.
The losers are: employees, particularly of mid sized companies, tax payers who will have to endure another trillion of deficit spending/additional taxes, physicians, and all seeking access in an environment with a further reduction of physicians….bad law all around.
Jm
July 2nd, 2012
8:04 am
Granny – no final verdict
Being discussed whether they can find a way to keep it
GT
July 2nd, 2012
8:08 am
I think the media has done a horrible job, sometimes on purpose, communicating this law and others to the public. They allow the misinformation to stay out there and many times I really don’t think they understand themselves what the law says. We got a sample of their work on Thursday morning, but it goes deeper than that. There use to be a dependability in the country that the press and networks would inform us on matters of this nature, now in interviews the interviewer is silent as the interviewee goes through talking points that don’t answer the question asked.
This is not the biggest or most massive tax increases in the history of our country. How can senators vote on the bill with all the information given to them and then come back and say if you had told me this was a tax, like they had been tricked. If that is all it takes to trick a US Senator with all his resources the public pays to educate him we now see what a lobbyist can do with these handicapped men and women that are there for our security and protection.
Jm
July 2nd, 2012
8:08 am
Stevie 8:03 agreed, there are winners and losers
From an income standpoint, the poor will benefit significantly (which I generally deem to be good if done in the right way, but this is not), the wealthy are big losers, the working class are small losers
The law is redistribution via healthcare
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
July 2nd, 2012
8:10 am
GRANNY,
Thanks once again for such intellectually stimulating contribution to a discussion….we can always count on you…
Jm
July 2nd, 2012
8:11 am
Gt
It’s a 2000 page document
The reason there is a lot of confusion is because the law itself is confusing
The law frequently contradicts itself
That’s what happens when you write exceedingly long and complex legislation
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 2nd, 2012
8:12 am
Find a way to keep it?
They don’t have to fund any of it…you work for a dunderhead.
So sorry about that….I did briefly years ago and know what it’s like
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
July 2nd, 2012
8:12 am
Stevie Ray..good thing too….as we can’t count on you.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
July 2nd, 2012
8:13 am
JM,
Yes I did forget the biggest benefactors those recieving vouchers…I’m actually ok with providing coverage to those not covered…just think the feds and the IRS are not the right ones to control….residual market mechanisms (assigned risk for auto cover for example) that are financed via premium taxes I think a better approach…will drive up costs but the increases will be finite and accountable as opposed to being infinite and political.
larry
July 2nd, 2012
8:14 am
No. From doctors.
Like Dr. Broun, Dr. Price, Dr Kingston, etc. etc,
Some doctors .