The orphaned RomneyCare thrives nonetheless

Its daddy may have abandoned his child and repudiated all paternal responsibility, yet RomneyCare lives.

Kennedy successor

“Here in Massachusetts for the last six years using a model just like national health care reform, the Affordable Care Act, we have reached 99.8 percent of children, over 98 percent of our overall population with insurance. We are healthier by any number of measures, the cost of health care has come down on a per capita basis, it has not busted the budget. There are more businesses offering insurance to their employees today than before health insurance went into effect, so all the list of horrors that Gov. Romney talked about, that the congressional Republicans have talked about were not actually reality here in Massachusetts where we have tried that.”

– Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick

Some additional facts and figures:

– As Patrick indicated above, less than 2 percent of Massachusetts residents lack health insurance. Nationally, the average is roughly 16 percent uninsured.

– Since the inception of the program in 2006, the average annual rate of increase in the rate per covered person has been held to less than 2 percent.

– According to a report by the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, “additional state spending attributable to the health reform law accounted for only 1.4 percent of the Commonwealth’s $32 billion budget in fiscal 2011.”

– In 2010, the most recent data available, 44,000 people paid the penalty for not having coverage.

– The MTF reports that “77 percent of Massachusetts employers with three or more employees offered health
insurance coverage to their employees in 2010, up seven percentage points since 2005. This compares with 69 percent of employers offering health coverage to their workers nationwide.”

– “… in the latest round of proposed premiums for the merged health insurance market for small businesses and non-group individuals, health plans sought average increases of just 2 to 3 percent, compared with increases of 15 to 20 percent two years ago. Although the trend of slower premium growth is currently a nationwide phenomenon and may be, in part, a function of the economic recession, Massachusetts is experiencing a notably slower rate of growth than the national average.” — MTF

– ” … recent data show that family premiums for private, employer-sponsored coverage in Massachusetts fell by an average of nearly 1 percent from 2009 to 2010, while the country as a whole saw a 6 percent increase. As a result, the state’s ranking for family premiums fell from the highest in the country in 2009 to ninth place in 2010. Similarly, individual premiums for Massachusetts workers rose by just 2.8 percent in 2010 versus 5.8 percent for the nation as a whole.” — MTF

– Jay Bookman

682 comments Add your comment

ty webb

June 29th, 2012
8:38 am

and New Orleans allows drive-thru daiquiri stands…lets apply that nationally too.

Brosephus™

June 29th, 2012
8:39 am

– In 2010, the most recent data available, 44,0000 people paid the penalty for not having coverage.

TAX INCREASE!!!!

Jerome Horwitz

June 29th, 2012
8:39 am

It’s all politics. I find it hilarious that Mitt runs away from his greatest achievement as gov. The ACA is not perfect, but, as we see in the state where it was modeled from their has been a definite improvement.

Rightwing Troll

June 29th, 2012
8:40 am

Stop it with the facts already… you know they mean nothing to the wingnuts who live here.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 29th, 2012
8:41 am

But…but…but…it’s a TAX!

And Teddy Kennedy, so SHUT UP!

Steve

June 29th, 2012
8:41 am

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! My freedoms and liberties are being TAKEN AWAY!!!

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

June 29th, 2012
8:42 am

recent data show that family premiums for private, employer-sponsored coverage in Massachusetts fell by an average of nearly 1 percent from 2009 to 2010, while the country as a whole saw a 6 percent increase

Conservatives just can’t comprehend this….

TaxPayer

June 29th, 2012
8:42 am

That should be 44,000 instead of 44,0000, I assume.

Aquagirl

June 29th, 2012
8:42 am

Oh no, not FACTS. Cons prefer screaming hysteria, preferably while wearing tricorn hats.

How stupid can the left possibly be???

June 29th, 2012
8:45 am

That is kind of like bragging that everyone in a particular community is a “homeowner” enough though half of them live in tents or a cardboard box. Gotta love the sheer desperation and dishonesty of the left as usual.

ty webb

June 29th, 2012
8:46 am

ah yes teddy kennedy… Maybe the feds could also adopt Massachusetts’ lax DUI laws?

bookman parrot

June 29th, 2012
8:46 am

To Aquagirl,
You prefer no personal responsibility, removal of rights, government control, the unconstitutional “law”, even though the idiots in Supreme Court say otherwise. They are just bowing to political pressure and not the Constitution.

Steve

June 29th, 2012
8:46 am

I guarantee you, we will see 9 or 10 pages of straight out distortions, lies, and “I Hate Obama” hysteria from the cons today on this thread.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 29th, 2012
8:46 am

Oh Noes!

The pesonal responsibility clause is coming to get you!

Oh and TY…..The drive-thru daiquiri stands are a step up from our drive thru beer barns.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

June 29th, 2012
8:47 am

So many facts….so many cons will make up their own without citation to actual evidence.

bookman parrot

June 29th, 2012
8:47 am

To Kamchak,
But , but, but, you’re a jack.

Ayn Rant

June 29th, 2012
8:49 am

Funny thing about the Affordable Health Care Act: 45% of people polled oppose the Act but 85% polled like the provisions of the Act. In other words, many people are fool enough to believe Republican propaganda but not all are fool enough to apply it to matters of personal concern.

Jimmy62

June 29th, 2012
8:49 am

Is it considered a tax in Massachusetts?

Brosephus™

June 29th, 2012
8:49 am

Gotta love the sheer desperation and dishonesty of the left as usual.

It’s gotta be a sad day when someone points out a conservative’s policy that works and then be accused of dishonesty. Life must really suck for some people. :roll:

Cosby

June 29th, 2012
8:49 am

I give, Lets all be happy living in a Marxist state, where indusry is private but government dictates what product and services they offer and then demand from its citizens what they must purchase. Mass…every story lately coming out indicates insurance is up and taxes are up..go figure.

but lets all be happy undr Government supervision

July 28 – a new holiday – DEPENDENCE DAY

Aquagirl

June 29th, 2012
8:49 am

Well, so far we have drive thru-daiquiri stands and living in cardboard boxes….a strong start out of the gate. It looks like our cons are gonna set new records in creativity today.

Is popcorn an acceptable breakfast food?

stands for decibels

June 29th, 2012
8:50 am

Y’all know what I like best about the Romneycare that Mitt Romney fought for and signed into law?

Them Fitty Dollar Abortions.

You rock, Mitt!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 29th, 2012
8:50 am

I guarantee you, we will see 9 or 10 pages of straight out distortions, lies, and “I Hate Obama” hysteria from the cons today on this thread.

Also known as Friday.

Or any other contiguous 24 hour time period from 12:01 a.m – 12:00 p.m. identified and ending in the letters d-a-y.

Brosephus™

June 29th, 2012
8:51 am

dB

I see you completely ignored me downstairs…. :)

Brosephus™
June 29th, 2012
8:37 am

RomneyCare Sheetz!!!

So what’s up wit dat, homie??? :lol:

Fly-On-The-Wall

June 29th, 2012
8:51 am

It is nice to have another place to gauge things against. We can expect to see the ACA tweeked here and there but I expect that in the long run this will help to control costs.

Again, I keep coming back to what the conservatives say – Repeal and Replace. Ok, what will you replace it with? Give us another system that covers everyone, requires personal responsibility, doesn’t cancel people when they get sick, allows pre-existing conditions and then tell us what you would replace it with? Remember medical bankruptcy was the most common form of personal backruptcy in the nation prior to the ACA. There is no way a normal middle-class American can save enough money to cover the potential medical costs they might incur during their lifetime. Plus if an insurance company can cancel them when the person needs it the most then what is the point of having insurance?

So, tell us, what system of coverage would you replace the ACA with?

Rightwing Troll

June 29th, 2012
8:52 am

So yesterday we had one flee because he felt his girlfriend was in danger as a result of his postings here, and two instances of fisticuffs offered… what will today bring???? It should be fun…

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 29th, 2012
8:52 am

Marxist state?

It’s called Freedonia.

Geez.

Rightwing Troll

June 29th, 2012
8:53 am

(of course, after he fled he came back a couple times to make sure we knew he was fleeing.. then he fled again…)

martin the calvinist

June 29th, 2012
8:53 am

Oh Jay, still excited over the greatest expansion of gov’t in our lives? Lemme guess, you just can’t wait until Obama and a Democrat Congress impose a tax on people who refuse to buy electric cars, or buy solar panels for their roof tops, or what ever “eco-friendly” scheme the Democrat’s come up with to protect us from global warming.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 29th, 2012
8:53 am

Bottom line: And the one the Right can’t get around…Romneycare works…and so will Romneycare 2.0… :D

stands for decibels

June 29th, 2012
8:53 am

Now, Mike Huckabee, he didn’t like Mitt Romney’s $50 abortions, back when he was on the primary campaign trail in 2007, and the Affordable Care Act was a mere glimmer in Obama’s eye.

But I think that $50 Romneycare Abortions are a sensible approach, and I’d like to see if Mitt Romney wants to include $50 Romneycare Abortions as a part of his “repeal and replace” effort. Don’t you?

Steve

June 29th, 2012
8:53 am

“Fly on the Wall” – now that was an honest, intelligent, sensible post. Thank you.

Nomair

June 29th, 2012
8:53 am

So….it’s ok if the Fed adopts a state law for healthcare, but it’s not ok for a state to adopt a Fed law for immigration???

ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT

June 29th, 2012
8:53 am

All I know is the Ga GOvernor and his lackies that sued the Feds to block ACA better get off of their duffs and get the ins exchange set up for us Taxpayers.Right quick…lol

Butch Cassidy

June 29th, 2012
8:54 am

Tell ya what. The day that I get a check from Obama paying for everything I will convert to a die hard Democrat. The day that my brown shirt and jack boots arrives with orders to goose step in honor of Obama, I will convert to a die hard Republican. Deal?

stands for decibels

June 29th, 2012
8:54 am

I see you completely ignored me downstairs…

why yes. I see I did.

Perhaps I should, as an act of penance, point out that Mitt Romney signed $50 abortions into law, as a public service?

Here we go!

June 29th, 2012
8:55 am

This is NOT a tax. Repeat after me -this is NOT a tax. SCOTUS said in order for this bill to work, it must be placed under the taxing authority of the constitution. IF they had placed it under the commerce clause, would you call the penalty a “commerce”? This is a PENALTY for NOT following the law which now states you must be covered under health insurance, whether by an employer or purchasing on your own. If you do not, you will pay a penalty for not following that law. Kinda like if you are found guilty of rape (another law of our land), your penalty will be time in jail. I understand you want to call it a tax for your political purposes, but calling something a tax, does not make it one.

ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT

June 29th, 2012
8:55 am

If you dont like the Feds your are Anti American…Move to Canada eh.

Rightwing Troll

June 29th, 2012
8:55 am

Fly… just stop it…

Wingnuts hate facts, and have no answers, they just like to shake their fists and yell things like “hey you kids… get off my lawn”… and “keep your filthy government hands off my medicare”…

stands for decibels

June 29th, 2012
8:57 am

better get off of their duffs and get the ins exchange set up for us Taxpayers.Right quick…lol

yeah, I heard Nathan Deal chatting about that topic, on the WABE broadcast of All things Considered.

He hemmed and hawed, and made it sound like he was possibly going to wait until after the election. Which will give him ten (10) days to come up with a plan.

TaxPayer

June 29th, 2012
8:57 am

What health insurance tax? I don’t pay no health insurance tax. Do you pay a health insurance tax?

The Gov has no Money!

June 29th, 2012
8:58 am

So, Romney is the hero of the health care act? Great! He’s brilliant! He should be president!

I’m sure that was not the intent of the blog…

ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT

June 29th, 2012
8:58 am

Deport Mitch Ninja turtle Mcconnel , Eric Cankor , and Boner…

Aquagirl

June 29th, 2012
8:58 am

(of course, after he fled he came back a couple times to make sure we knew he was fleeing.. then he fled again…)

Recycling is a great idea for a lot of things, but not for exit flounces.

Stick the landing, cons.

Sorry, no FACTS here

June 29th, 2012
8:59 am

The Massachusetts Taxpayer Foundation supporting a socialist stance on something!?!?!? Shocking!!! No facts here, only typical spin from a radical leftwing organization that should be taken as seriously as Jessie Jackson.

Please try again

ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT

June 29th, 2012
8:59 am

Romney is a toolbag

Paul

June 29th, 2012
9:01 am

Republicans, since the start of this, have advocated using states as laboratories to test various options, finding out which work and which don’t, before proceeding nationally. Massachusetts did that and it’s a much better scorecard than the national.

So we’ve run a test, we have the results and….. Republicans have amnesia.

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Why is it Republicans embrace the Court decision on the definition of a word (tax) and use that as a rally cry, while disagreeing with the Court’s decision on the issue at hand?

I’ve heard of ‘can’t see the forest for the trees” but honestly, this is more like “can’t see the forest because they’re collecting bark and leaf samples and examining them under a microscope.”

Republicans: big picture. Fo-cus.

Sorry, no FACTS here

June 29th, 2012
9:01 am

Actually it is a tax, and a very large one at that. Love how long it has taken the quacks to realize the magnitude of yesterday’s ruling on their November chances

martin the calvinist

June 29th, 2012
9:01 am

see that you are spiking the ball, Jay…….since you libs give a flying flip over the unborn why don’t you beg the federal gov’t to offer 50 dollar assisted suicides for those terminally ill? Why not since that review board ran by un-elected gov’t officials will be denying benefits to keep cost down, no need spending millions on a person dying of cancer?

Joseph

June 29th, 2012
9:01 am

Jay why haven’t you mentioned the huge difference between Obamacare and Romneycare?

GT

June 29th, 2012
9:01 am

Tell it brother! Facts will kill em, now is the time for higher education. We have too long allowed the communication of these facts to be controlled by the right who on a good day can’t interpret them correctly even without the bias. Look how FOX reported the decision yesterday morning.

Romney’s crowning accomplishment as a elected official was Romneycare. It is like having Babe Ruth as a child and you can’t claim him. If the health care program which is 99% the same DNA of the Obamacare program was that much of a failure why is Romney running for president of this country. He is running because it was successful and it made him successful. Claim you birthright Mitt and stop being lead by the nose of people who lack the knowledge or have selfish motives to see this never happens.

kitty

June 29th, 2012
9:02 am

Fly-On-The-Wall, what the GOP would replace it with is the big UNANSWERED question. Tell us already so we can decide or do we have to find out when the GOP passes it?

Paul

June 29th, 2012
9:03 am

” Aquagirl, You prefer no personal responsibility, removal of rights, government control, the unconstitutional “law”, even though the idiots in Supreme Court say otherwise. ”

Ahhh, finally…. I’ve been missing my morning cup of hyperbole.

TaxPayer

June 29th, 2012
9:03 am

“I see my ultra top secret plan to insure the population was yet another success of mine. Now they can all lose their jobs to my offshoring efforts without fear of losing their health insurance.” – Mitt

martin the calvinist

June 29th, 2012
9:04 am

again, giving the federal gov’t to dictate behavior is a dangerous things. But liberals loves a gov’t that dictates behavior…..you reap what you sow….

Aquagirl

June 29th, 2012
9:04 am

Why not since that review board ran by un-elected gov’t officials will be denying benefits to keep cost down, no need spending millions on a person dying of cancer?

Adding “death panels!!!!” to the bingo card…..

Brosephus™

June 29th, 2012
9:05 am

Perhaps I should, as an act of penance, point out that Mitt Romney signed $50 abortions into law, as a public service?

Penance accepted and duly noted!!

Brosephus™

June 29th, 2012
9:08 am

I’ve heard of ‘can’t see the forest for the trees” but honestly, this is more like “can’t see the forest because they’re collecting bark and leaf samples and examining them under a microscope.”

I don’t know whether to laugh at that allegory or just shake my head at the actual implication….

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Mark

June 29th, 2012
9:08 am

It’s frightening how utterly oblivious the left are. So blinded by hate and rage that they cannot use any commonsense whatsoever. The only way SOCIALIST healthcare works in European countries is because those countries have a fraction of the population that we do and they have an immigration policy that would make any true-blue leftist here cringe in outrage. Small numbers are the ONLY way a SOCIALIST healthcare can function how it is intended to.

Jay

June 29th, 2012
9:08 am

martin the calvinist writes:

“why don’t you beg the federal gov’t to offer 50 dollar assisted suicides for those terminally ill? Why not since that review board ran by un-elected gov’t officials will be denying benefits to keep cost down, no need spending millions on a person dying of cancer?”

Of course, the fact that no such “death panel” exists under ObamaCare has no bearing whatsoever; if people believe it exists, apparently it does.

And since Martin is a self-described Calvinist, I’ll leave him with this:

“All the blessings we enjoy are Divine deposits, committed to our trust on this condition, that they should be dispensed for the benefit of our neighbors.”

– John Calvin

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

June 29th, 2012
9:09 am

FLYONTHEWALL

This dog of a bill will cost each and every one of us who are currently insured a lot more…..materially more…only winners here are insurers, hospital operators, and politicians (DEM in near GOP long term). What works in a single state does not translate into nationwide success.

The arithmetic on this dog is easy and don’t lie like politicians.

A better solution is for states to set up residual markets akin to auto insurance combined with vouchers…either way, each one of you are gonna be shocked at how much you will come out of pocket on this deal…enjoy the political victory but we will all pay dearly..

Keep Up the Good Fight!

June 29th, 2012
9:09 am

Love how long it has taken the quacks to realize the magnitude of yesterday’s ruling on their November chances

More of the “awakening of the sleeping giant” argument today…. :lol: Because of course Republicans were really not too upset and “motivated” against Obama before yesterday but now of course they are. :lol: :lol:

Of coruse, as we see already, the ruling gives the Dems a chance to battle the marketing lies of the Republicans and show people why they already love the actual provisions of this law. And wait til Americans start getting some refund checks. :lol:

carlosgvv

June 29th, 2012
9:09 am

I believe it’s reasonable to suggest States have far more in common than in difference. We all speak the same language, obey the same laws(essentially), live under the same national Govt., etc. etc. However, reasonable does not describe either Romney, other Republican politicians or the Republican electorate. Romney will spin the Massachusetts healthcare story to make it look like the work of the Devil. Republican politicians will march in lockstep with him and the electorate will believe what they are told. If reason, logic and sanity are being tossed out the window by at least half of the US electorate, I don’t see much hope for America as we now know it to survive.

Joseph

June 29th, 2012
9:11 am

Again no one is talking about the glaring difference between the two laws….

varley

June 29th, 2012
9:11 am

The only thing any honest person can possibly point to as something successful the government has ever ran is the military, yet the liberals will refuse this fact so really that leaves absolutely zero that they can hang their hat on. Everything else the government has failed at 110%, yet the libs are excited about them running healthcare????? Is this the new definition of insanity?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 29th, 2012
9:11 am

Adding “death panels!!!!” to the bingo card…..

Way ahead of you.

The printer called this morning and said the new ones were ready.

As a bonus, I added “awoke a sleeping giant.”

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 29th, 2012
9:12 am

Sorry, no FACTS here

June 29th, 2012
9:01 am
Actually it is a tax, and a very large one at that.

…and a very large one at that

Look!

A new home of the whopper!

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

June 29th, 2012
9:12 am

JAY,

Do your really think Cox Enterprises is not going to look long and hard at the savings between paying 2k tax versus 10-12k for your current benefits package? I assure you if Cox’s peers go that route, Cox will follow…regardless, watch your contribution double in the next few years as Cox, as primarily as self insurer, must pay for pre-existing conditions (not insurance BTW), 26 year old thingy, and other gifts in this deal….The former two are great outcomes but the cost will be significant to any currently covered by employer…how you can ignore this math is ridonkulous…

varley

June 29th, 2012
9:12 am

Refund checks? LOL, yes, this is clearly the new definition of insanity!!! I have answered my own question!!!

Mary Elizabeth

June 29th, 2012
9:13 am

“As Patrick indicated above, less than 2 percent of Massachusetts residents lack health insurance. Nationally, the average is roughly 16 percent uninsured.”
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I posted this on the last thread this morning:

What is sad is that many on the right cannot see how this Affordable Care Act is historical in nature in the same way that Brown vs. Board of Education was historical. It will change America’s history for the better and it will ultimately ensure more freedom for Americans for as FDR had stated in his 4th inaugural address: If there is not (social) security at home, there cannot be freedom in the world.

Here is what I posted yesterday on Kyle Wingfield’s blog, related to this thought, slightly edited:

“About the possibility of a single payer healthcare policy ultimately, I never thought that I would see the end of apartheid in South Africa in my lifetime. But it happened.

History unfolds as consciousness unfolds and the rate of that unfolding is indeterminable. Those who think America’s Founders Fathers would not have approved of today’s Supreme Court decision regarding the Affordable Care Act are not giving our founders enough credit for the depth and complexity of their thinking. Also, the founders did not speak as one voice, but of differing voices who all believed in the one ideal of liberty.

Thomas Jefferson had written, for instance, that the only constant should be the will of the people and that, if in the course of history, emerging Americans were not pleased with the U.S. Constitution, itself, which had served well those of his day and of the immediate days thereafter, then the U.S. Constitution should be viewed as able to be discarded and formed againthe evolution of time, were to follow his own generation. Those were the thoughts of a founder who saw the unfolding of history as a process of depth which continuously evolved over time, rather than as a repetitive, static progression, which repeats itself indefinitely.”

Stewart

June 29th, 2012
9:13 am

Jay, the Massachusetts Health care plan is highly subsidized by our federal government with almost a billion dollars to prop that program up and make it function. Your analysis is missing the huge piece of the pie–which is without Federal aid –it would be far mosre costly and a huge burden on the MA citizens. Look up the facts.

Paul

June 29th, 2012
9:14 am

Nomair

“So….it’s ok if the Fed adopts a state law for healthcare, but it’s not ok for a state to adopt a Fed law for immigration???”

Sigh…. you may want to read the Arizona decision to see what the Court had to say about each state setting its own immigration laws vs the proper role of the federal government.

Mighty Righty

June 29th, 2012
9:14 am

Imagine that. Better health care, covering more people (some estimate 48 million added to health care) at no cost. It’s free. My God, why didn’t we do this years ago? To think the europeans are all bankrupt and it has nothing to do with their socialistic policies. I hate to enject logic because liberals just get their panties all twisted up, but if half the people don’t pay for health care and half do, wouldn’t it seem “logical” that the half that does pay will pay twice as much for what they already have?

RB from Gwinnett

June 29th, 2012
9:15 am

Shocker….liberals cheering the largest tax increase in history knowing many of them will have their health insurance paid for by somebody else. The sad thing is the leeches don’t even have the common courtesy to thank the people who have been carrying their arses though this society for years. The just keep coming back for more…..

ragnar danneskjold

June 29th, 2012
9:15 am

RomneyCare: 71 pages. ObamaCare: 2,400 pages. Virtually the same, in the view of a leftist.

F. Sinkwich

June 29th, 2012
9:15 am

So Bookman and his merry Marxist minions on this blog are celebrating a GARGANTUAN tax increase on the American people.

Who saw that coming?

godless heathen

June 29th, 2012
9:16 am

Anyone that can’t afford an abortion should definitely be provided one, because they surely can’t afford a child. And give them a free toaster to boot.

Fly-On-The-Wall

June 29th, 2012
9:16 am

Steve,

Thank you. I try to ask the questions and I hope to get the answers or at least start a dialogue. We’ll see if anyone who is against the ACA will take up the challenge.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

June 29th, 2012
9:16 am

JAY,

Also don’t forget, if Cox endures say a 30% increase in benefits cost, don’t look for any new hires unless top line (not happening in dying industry like yours) increases accordlingly. If they continue paying these increases, look for downsizing to cover the cost.

Dems be So BrillAnt!!!!

June 29th, 2012
9:17 am

“Hey, I gots me a good idea. Lets bring on higher cost and raise taxes across the board during a recession. That will definitely get me reelected!”

– Obama

Jay

June 29th, 2012
9:18 am

Stewart, the same is true of health care in Georgia. What’s your point exactly?

Mary Elizabeth

June 29th, 2012
9:18 am

Correction: My last paragraph above was stated thus: (problem with cut and paste)

“Thomas Jefferson had written, for instance, that the only constant should be the will of the people and that, if in the course of history, emerging Americans were not pleased with the U.S. Constitution, itself, which had served well those of his day and of the immediate days thereafter, then the U.S. Constitution should be viewed as able to be discarded and formed again to serve better the interests and vision of those Americans who, in the evolution of time, were to follow his own generation. Those were the thoughts of a founder who saw the unfolding of history as a process of depth which continuously evolved over time, rather than as a repetitive, static progression, which repeats itself indefinitely.”

Mighty Righty

June 29th, 2012
9:18 am

Stewart

June 29th, 2012
9:13 am
Jay, the Massachusetts Health care plan is highly subsidized by our

Jay never tells the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 29th, 2012
9:18 am

Butch Cassidy

June 29th, 2012
9:19 am

varley – “Everything else the government has failed at 110%,

Hoover Dam?

Oblama

June 29th, 2012
9:19 am

ObamaCare is a curse on the working people of America – next is legalized weed to finish destroying the culture. Communist China always said that in time the U.S. would destroy itself without them raising a finger. We are witnessing the destruction of America.

Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common

June 29th, 2012
9:19 am

Joseph@9:11 am

Again no one is talking about the glaring difference between the two laws….

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Please enlighten us ignorant fools :-)

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

June 29th, 2012
9:20 am

STEWART,

Great point…the other overlooked issue is the demographics of employers in MA many of whom have only a portion of employees in MA….now they have to go nationwide without the same subsidies….a disaster on the horizon….tax and spend baby.

HOT AIR

June 29th, 2012
9:20 am

Is Obama the Red Queen?

Paul

June 29th, 2012
9:21 am

Here we go

“This is NOT a tax. Repeat after me -this is NOT a tax. SCOTUS”

I’d go to sports games with my brother. Afterwards friends who supported the losing side would be all worked up, going over every call with which they disagreed, saying why the ref was wrong and on and on and on and on. My brother would just smile and say “scoreboard.”

Get it?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 29th, 2012
9:21 am

We are witnessing the destruction of America.

He was a dark and stormy knight.

She was sultry.

Joseph

June 29th, 2012
9:22 am

Ok since libs are ignoring this fact I’ll tell them the glaring diffence between Obamacare and Romneycare. The folks in Massachusetts agreed with Romney’s plan by a wide majority. Poll after poll shows that the American people resoundingly reject Obamacare. After all it is a plan that was cloaked in secrecy behind closed doors that came out into the daylight with 2700 pages only a trained lawyer could read or understand…

Butch Cassidy

June 29th, 2012
9:22 am

Oblama – “We are witnessing the destruction of America.”

When are your parents coming for you?

Steve

June 29th, 2012
9:22 am

I HATE OBAMA AND ROMNEYCARE SOOOOOO MUCH!! (snort)

Oblama

June 29th, 2012
9:22 am

Roberts ruled that Obama is a tax and spend liberal …….. we knew that already.

Jim163

June 29th, 2012
9:23 am

It is going to be interesting to see the CBO analysis when the states opt out of paying medicaid up to 133% of the poverty line as many will surely do. Does the Federal Government pick up the rest thus drastically inflating the cost of this bill? Don’t look to congress to fix this. I think it will be a long time before they want to touch health care legislation again.

Seaside Bocker

June 29th, 2012
9:23 am

Largest tax increase in the history of…..EVERYTHING? Good one kooks!!!!

Erwin's cat

June 29th, 2012
9:24 am

“So, tell us, what system of coverage would you replace the ACA with?”

single payer…remove the age restriction on Medi and pay a real tax….I have a problem with big Insurance Co’s

Paul

June 29th, 2012
9:24 am

’see that you are spiking the ball, Jay…….since you libs give a flying flip over the unborn why don’t you beg the federal gov’t to offer 50 dollar assisted suicides for those terminally ill? ‘

Just in time. Just finished my first cup of hyperbole and it’s time for a refill.

ZoSo

June 29th, 2012
9:25 am