Will the Supremes be ObamaCare’s real ‘death panel’?
It is, if you think about it, kind of ironic.
As ObamaCare was being passed, conservatives complained that the entire U.S. health care industry was being remade in secret with the results being “crammed down their throats” by a majority allegedly uninterested in negotiation. Little to none of that was true, but in this debate truth had been pummeled, kicked and left to die in an alleyway months earlier anyway.
Now those same conservatives eagerly await while the entire U.S. health care industry is remade in true secrecy, by unchallengeable edict issued from private chambers by nine robed figures haughtily and altogether immune to public opinion.
Once the announcement is “handed down” — a telling phrase, that one — sometime around 10:15, I’ll post a running analysis as I speed-read through the opinion, much as we handled the immigration ruling earlier this week.
It’ll be days before the dust settles on this one, and months and even years before the wounds from it heal. It has the potential to reshuffle the political environment as well as the health-care system, and to permanently alter the image and role of the Supreme Court as well.
Other than that, it’s not all that important.
– Jay Bookman
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St Simons - he-ne-ha
June 28th, 2012
9:43 am
even though mrsstsimons read it in a weekend,
the next health care law needs to be shorter
for the whiners complaining its too long for their little attention spans
“The age requirement for Medicare is hereby removed”
that’s short enough, even for these cons
Aquagirl
June 28th, 2012
9:43 am
My girlfriend’s hairdresser’s husband has an uncle that used to work with a guy that knew someone
And have you ever noticed these OUTRAGED witnesses never remove themselves from the situation? Ms. Big-Box Pharmacist lets those coiffed and manicured women roll by in their Escalades all day long, PAYING HER SALARY.
You’d think outraged pharmacist would find a job where she wasn’t so outraged and forced to witness people selling food stamps apparently right in front of her. But no, they apparently return to work, collecting even more salacious details for our right-wingers to post as hearsay. How very convenient.
Butch Cassidy
June 28th, 2012
9:44 am
Joseph – “It would be great fro Republicans to run on repeal because poll after poll shows the public hates it…”
They hate speed limits too, when will we see the repeal of those?
Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)
June 28th, 2012
9:44 am
general elections aren’t scheduled – they just have to be held within a specific period of time – 5 years
that’s crazy. If ACA is upheld I could see Obama asking for the election 17 days from now. You wait till you do something great and call an election. Like right after he got OBL.
W woulda called an election right after he landed on that air craft carrier…and then retracted it after everyone laughed at him about it.
Erwin's cat
June 28th, 2012
9:45 am
Jay – “However, he adopted it after the election as a means of reaching out to Republicans”
It really doesn’t matter who was for what and when if it is struck down as unconstitutional
Adam
June 28th, 2012
9:45 am
Peadawg: Normally you have some good points to make. But you, personally, are now on ignore while I speak on the topics I am interested in.
joe
June 28th, 2012
9:45 am
“He is amazed that a country this rich has such a convoluted health care system”
Have you experienced the healthcare in Canada? You’ve gotta wait months to see a doctor. Bottom line is with our 15-16 trillion in debt, we simply cannot afford healthcare coverage for everyone, including illegals. We have to get our own house in order by cutting spending and cutting payments to all foreign governments until our debt is paid. At that point, we can then refocus to modifying medicare to include coverage for those without private insurance. It must be done this way, we cannot pile on another 5 trillion more in debt by paying for healthcare for all uninsured.
godless heathen
June 28th, 2012
9:45 am
What is with the fright-wingers and their “friends” assailed by welfare cheats all day? Yeah right, buddy.
What’s with the lefty-pinkos that feel they have to question the honesty of posters when they have absolutely no basis on which to do so? They believe in their heart of hearts that the downtrodden poor can’t possibly be gaming the system so they refuse to accept any account that threatens that belief.
Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)
June 28th, 2012
9:46 am
My girlfriend’s hairdresser’s husband has an uncle that used to work with a guy that knew someone
my friend’s, friend’s, friend’s, uncle’s, friend’s, sister’s, nephew’s friends made some crap up to make a point and I’m just passing it along.
Curious
June 28th, 2012
9:46 am
Anybody posting here that doesn’t have insurance or can’t get it because of a pre-existing condition?
I’m fortunate with Tricare and Medicare.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
9:46 am
St Simons: It’s also short enough to be shot down in lockstep opposition. In fact,t he more sense it makes I am thinking the less likely it is they will support it.
But it’s not 2700 pages, as though that was ever really the reason they didn’t like the ACA.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
June 28th, 2012
9:47 am
Finneus – 9:44 – you got it – that’s how these things work!
the REAL problem is what we had a couple of years ago – Brown took office as PM WITHOUT an election simply because Tony Blair stepped down.
talk about a pissed-off electorate!
Paul
June 28th, 2012
9:47 am
Bruno
“Out of curiosity, Paul, what do you expect to change under the ACA?? ”
That’s a serous question? When the point was people without insurance by and large are supported by people with insurance?
“If people hated the mandate because they didn’t want gov’t telling them what to do, I can only imagine what their reaction would be to the ’solutions’ for those two items.
And while you’re at it, Paul, maybe you can expand your imagination a little and realize that every solution in life doesn’t have to be a top-down gov’t solution. Ultimately, people have to be responsible for their own health. There are many ways to encourage/achieve that without govt. programs.”
Please don’t revert to past practices by opining in grand generalities about something you’ve said and shifting solutions onto the person who asked what you mean. If you’re going to say “the root causes of the problems in our health care system: (1) Too many unhealthy people (2) An over-reliance on drug and surgery-based solutions ” and that’s why ACA doesn’t address the problem, then at least go clearly on record with your proposals to address the root causes.
Then we can see if people who don’t like government telling them what to do with the mandate will embrace those proposals.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
9:47 am
Finn: If ACA is upheld I could see Obama asking for the election 17 days from now.
I can’t. That’s kind of not something that is possible.
Peadawg
June 28th, 2012
9:47 am
Aw, Adam’s giving me the silent treatment after I called him out. Too cut.
Steve - USA ("None of the Above")
June 28th, 2012
9:47 am
“I hope the court upholds all of it. It would be great fro Republicans to run on repeal because poll after poll shows the public hates it…”
I suspect that most of America doesn’t really understand the Health Care Act, I will be honest I have never really studied it. The public most likely hates it because they feel like something is being forced upon them, it’s a natural reaction. It would be like going to a restaurant and being told you’re getting steak and getting mad because you couldn’t get Fish or Chicken but in your anger you forgot you love Steak.
Somewhere in my mind that all makes sense, I think I am going back to bed. LOL
Peadawg
June 28th, 2012
9:48 am
cute*
Adam
June 28th, 2012
9:49 am
Erwin’s Cat: It really doesn’t matter who was for what and when if it is struck down as unconstitutional
Of course it matters. You think the Republicans won’t jump on the chance to “we finally have PROOF the President wipes his ass with the Constitution! It’s not just our bullsh*t anymore!”
Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)
June 28th, 2012
9:49 am
One thing we’ve learned over the last 3.5 years is that Republicans really don’t like to have to read anything over a couple of hundred pages. Under 50 is perfect.
Welcome to the Occupation
June 28th, 2012
9:49 am
The thing that is really significant about this decision – as with the Wisconsin vote a couple of weeks ago – is the encouragement that one side in the ideological battle will take from a victory, and the corresponding dejection if its a loss for the pro-ACA side (if the right loses, there is no dejection of course, just redoubling of efforts and determination). Just as the Wisconsin recall victory for the union-busting right was an enormous boost for the right, the same will be true here.
Here is an interesting testament to the way that one ’side’ is looking at the decision:
http://www.volokh.com/2012/06/27/win-or-lose-my-thanks/
Win or Lose, My Thanks
On the eve of the historic Supreme Court decision on the constitutionality of the individual insurance mandate, I don’t know what the outcome will be any more than anyone else. I have never made a prediction and won’t start now. From the beginning, I always insisted that the challenge was serious, but also an uphill climb. I never dismissed the case for the constitutionality of the ACA as frivolous. I usually ended my set speeches by saying that the smart money is always on the Supreme Court upholding an act of Congress. Intrade notwithstanding (71.5% this morning), I suppose I still think that’s right.
I said before the oral argument that, if I knew the outcome of the case when the argument was over (as I thought I did in Raich), it would mean we lost. If we had won, I would not know it. At the end of the ACA argument, I was in the latter position. As when I was a trial lawyer, I felt very good about the way our case went in, but you never can be sure what a jury will do. I will never forget the feeling in the pit of my stomach every time a jury filed into the box to announce its verdict. I will have that same feeling at 10am tomorrow morning. Big time.
Tomorrow, the “highest court in the land” returns its verdict. Today, I want to say thanks to my cobloggers for the significant contributions they have made to this historic challenge. (I think it is OK to use “historic” twice in this post.) Ilya Somin, Jonathan Adler, and Dave Kopel made vital contributions to the substance of the arguments and, with David Bernstein, responded skillfully to the manifold criticisms that were launched against our challenge. Win or lose, this blog was instrumental in developing the arguments that earned us 6 hours of oral argument spread over 3 days. Those who credit the Volokh Conspiracy with responsibility for the viability of this challenge are right to do so, but it is nothing nefarious. Just free speech. So thanks Eugene for creating this forum and inviting me in.
Butch Cassidy
June 28th, 2012
9:50 am
godless heathen – “the downtrodden poor can’t possibly be gaming the system so they refuse to accept any account that threatens that belief.”
No one doubts that there are “cheats”. Everyone has been stuck behind someone trying to game the system at one time or another. The disbelief comes from the overly exaggerated examples provided here which are nothing more than glorified re-tellings of the Reagan era “welfare queeens” and their Cadillacs.
Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)
June 28th, 2012
9:50 am
LOL, Adam, that went right over your head, didn’t it?
Jay
June 28th, 2012
9:50 am
One thing we’ve learned over the last 3.5 years is that Republicans really don’t like to have to read anything over a couple of hundred pages. Under 50 is perfect.
Herman Cain, if I recall correctly, maxed out at three.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
9:50 am
joe: It must be done this way, we cannot pile on another 5 trillion more in debt by paying for healthcare for all uninsured.
Actually we can. We just pretend that our resources don’t allow for this because of how we worship the dollar. In reality, the dollar only has the value we as a collective society allow it to have.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
June 28th, 2012
9:51 am
Well, if the SC strikes down Obamacare they will be doing God’s work. Obamacare goes against nature. If God had of wanted you to have health insurance you would of been born with a little policy in your hands. I think us people that have health insurance ought to allow the people that don’t have it to Die with Dignity. God never intended for our paychecks to be raided to pay for the health care of the poor. It’s a jungle out there and the Devil take the hindmost. It’s part of the curse God put on Adam and Eve. I’m just awful glad that me and mine ain’t the hindmost.
So I’ll be praying for the souls of all those people that won’t have health insurance. All I can say to them is, Better thee than me. So I’m waiting for the SC to put all those folks out of their misery. It’s the court’s Christian duty. Like that sign that the woman’s holding in the picture in front of the SC building says, Obamacare is Evil.
Have a good Thursday everybody.
Gale
June 28th, 2012
9:51 am
Doggone, delayed comment to your 9:02 (I think). I always think about Fixx as well when the conversation of healthy lifestyle comes up. Sometimes bad things happen to the best of us. The majority, however, would do well to have habits half as healthy as he did.
Skip
June 28th, 2012
9:52 am
I’ll take the same plan Congress has.
Peadawg
June 28th, 2012
9:52 am
“Herman Cain, if I recall correctly, maxed out at three.”
Herman Cain got his tax plan from a video game. He doesn’t count.
Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)
June 28th, 2012
9:52 am
Herman Cain only likes to read stuff he can start and finish while in the bathroom…one sitting, please.
“Could you turn on the fan?”
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
June 28th, 2012
9:52 am
Jay – 9:50 –
“I suspect that most of America doesn’t really understand the Health Care Act, I will be honest I have never really studied it”
the sad thing is that survey after survey shows that people overwhelmingly support the provisions of the act (coverage for children, no denial of coverage, etc) – but, because of all the fearmongering about things it DOESN’T do (helloooooo death panels), people don’t support it.
Paul
June 28th, 2012
9:53 am
Adam 9:42
Republicans want to tax the poor? Well, there is that…..
Hey Kamchak, welcome back.
Got to use Kamchak’s Observation “if we’re going to make sh*t up, there’s no sense in being h@lf-@ssed about it” twice yesterday.
It wasn’t nearly enough.
Erwin's cat
June 28th, 2012
9:53 am
Adam – “Of course it matters. You think the Republicans won’t jump on the chance to “we finally have PROOF the President wipes his ass with the Constitution! It’s not just our bullsh*t anymore!”
rhetorical comments don’t matter
Adam
June 28th, 2012
9:53 am
Butch: No one doubts that there are “cheats”. Everyone has been stuck behind someone trying to game the system at one time or another. The disbelief comes from the overly exaggerated examples provided here which are nothing more than glorified re-tellings of the Reagan era “welfare queeens” and their Cadillacs.
In addition, studies have actually been done to show that the cheats are in a small minority, mostly get caught and forced to repay with penalties, and it is also true that a very VERY small amount of money is lost to this.
2011 percentage of budget for SNAP – 2-2.56%. Interest on the debt? 6%. Medicaid and CHIP? 7%. Medicare? 14%. “Defense”? 21%
Now, tell me where we should cut if we want the most bang for our buck. And tell me where we should not INCREASE expenditures to “catch” people.
USMC
June 28th, 2012
9:53 am
“Will the Supremes be ObamaCare’s real ‘death panel’?”–Jay Bookman
More of Jay’s DRAMA… roll the fainting couch in for Comrade Bookman…
Well everyone knows that Chairman “Mao” Obama has THREE speeches ready for the Big SPIN.
He will spin the news as he continues to DIVIDE the country for his own political gain.
Stay tuned… this should be quite an entertaining day to listen to Obama, the buffoon spin his lies and the useful idiots clapping and cheering the whole way.
Butch Cassidy
June 28th, 2012
9:54 am
Gale – “I always think about Fixx as well when the conversation of healthy lifestyle comes up.”
Wasn’t there a story a few days ago in the AJC about a Cobb County Schools Athletic Director who died while jogging? I hguess to the party faithful he wasn’t really taking good care of himself and should have tried harder.
JamVet
June 28th, 2012
9:55 am
I kinda miss Herman.
Granted, there is still the disgraceful, ethically challenged Alan West to laugh at, but it just isn’t the same…
Adam
June 28th, 2012
9:55 am
USMC: He will spin the news as he continues to DIVIDE the country for his own political gain.
And the Republicans would never do such a thing. After all, their whole message and legislative agenda has been all about UNITING people… oh wait….
Hey USMC, by the way, by criticizing Jay your’e being DIVISIVE.
Aquagirl
June 28th, 2012
9:57 am
What’s with the lefty-pinkos that feel they have to question the honesty of posters when they have absolutely no basis on which to do so?
Second-hand judgement of people on the basis of their manicure is sooooooo much more accurate, right?
I call B.S. As I pointed out, those people pay your mythical whining friend’s salary. If she was that outraged, she’d find another job. It’s not like she has a degree in Medieval Lit.
Any medical professional b!tching about her customers to acquaintances is a bigger dirtbag than the customers cruising her drive-thru with their rimz.
mm
June 28th, 2012
9:58 am
I predict 6 – 3 upholding ACA.
Butch Cassidy
June 28th, 2012
9:58 am
Speaking of Government forcing their will upon the people. What’s up with the “Click it or Ticket” campaigns? Why aren’t our Republican friends out en masse demanding personal freedom and their God given right to ride around in their SUVs unshackeled by both seat belt and Government interference?
USMC
June 28th, 2012
9:58 am
The CONSTITUTIONAL Lawyer, Obama: Unprecedented Scotus remarks… This is too funny
OBAMA SLAMS ‘ACTIVIST’ SUPREME COURT, CALLS THEM ‘AN UNELECTED GROUP OF PEOPLE’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWZ9JVvUG0g
Jay
June 28th, 2012
9:59 am
FYI, I’ll have a new post up as soon as we get the first inklings of the decision, then update as soon and often as possible from there as I go through the opinion.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:00 am
USMC: Actually when the President made those comments he was saying “this is what conservatives usually say”. It’s like that ad where he says “If we keep talking about the economy we are going to lose.” (SPOILER ALERT! He was quoting the McCain campaign!)
Gale
June 28th, 2012
10:01 am
Butch, I cannot comment on the athletic director’s lifestyle. But how often do we hear of young athletes dropping dead of unidentified health problems. Sometimes healthy behavior does not save you. Most often healthy behavior will provide a long and healthy life.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
June 28th, 2012
10:01 am
USMC – 9:58 – hate to burst your bubble, but Scalia’s comments WERE unprecedented (addressing the news rather than the constitutional issue at hand)
godless heathen
June 28th, 2012
10:01 am
The disbelief comes from the overly exaggerated examples provided here which are nothing more than glorified re-tellings of the Reagan era “welfare queeens” and their Cadillacs.
So you join AG in calling A Dad a liar?
Paul
June 28th, 2012
10:02 am
USMC
“Stay tuned… this should be quite an entertaining day to listen to Obama, the buffoon spin his lies and the useful idiots clapping and cheering the whole way.”
Says the guy who lives on government health care largely paid for by others.
Steve - USA ("None of the Above")
June 28th, 2012
10:03 am
Jay – “FYI, I’ll have a new post up as soon as we get the first inklings of the decision, then update as soon and often as possible from there as I go through the opinion.”
This is like waiting for the smoke when they pick a new Pope. LOL
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:03 am
Ninth circuit affirmed in Alvarez (Stolen Valor Act is unconstitutional).
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
June 28th, 2012
10:04 am
Steve – 10:03 – hahaha … reminds me of the footage of the reporter wiping out as he RAN to the camera after picking up the 2000 Bush/Gore decision
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
June 28th, 2012
10:05 am
according to my watch, it’s 10:04 there …
WHERE IS IT!!!
ByteMe - Political thug
June 28th, 2012
10:05 am
For those who don’t know about the live SC blog: http://www.scotusblog.com/cover-it-live/
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
June 28th, 2012
10:05 am
Paul
June 28th, 2012
9:32 am
First off, I have to keep coming in and out of this blog…Work sure does screw up blog time…
But what you and Ty were discussing, I need to clarify. I truly believe that health care for ALL is a right. I believe this because it is the spiritual thing to do. There is a humanity thing involved with me that I can’t explain, but I feel…deeply. I get very emotional about a lot of things that go against my personal belief as “how things should be”.
Even in my darkest hours, living through the worst man can do to man, I never doubted that man was endowed with a spiritual connection that would eventually make things right. Call it Obamacare, Romneycare or Normalcare, it is a necessary thing. My sense of fair play and spirituality screams that. We, this country, needs a Universal healthcare. We have to take care of our own and I believe that the Federal Government should be the prime mover, with the individual States being the implementers.
Paul
June 28th, 2012
10:05 am
Jay
You may find this site helpful this morning. I know, it’s easy to get overloaded,
http://www.scotusblog.com/cover-it-live/
Butch Cassidy
June 28th, 2012
10:05 am
Gale -”Sometimes healthy behavior does not save you. Most often healthy behavior will provide a long and healthy life.”
Agreed. However, from the posts I’ve read here over the years from the Right Wingers seems to indicate that if you have a heart attack it’s your fault. If you have cancer it’s your fault, if you have liver disease it’s your fault, if you have kidney failure it’s your fault. They can’t be burdned by the miscreants who go to the hospital to treat these conditions, because apparently they are all too busy working out at Golds Gym and eating right which allows them the piety to declare all others lazy moochers that need to do better.
Jay
June 28th, 2012
10:05 am
ETA is 10:15, USinUK
JamVet
June 28th, 2012
10:05 am
This is obviously not a court of law, but personally, I put very little value on heresay.
Though Sinkwich’s unwittingly hysterical commentary about the qas station attendant will live for along time on this forum!
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:06 am
USinUK: 10:15 est for HC decision
Uncle Billy
June 28th, 2012
10:06 am
I am on Medicare and loving it. I went to my physician yesterday for the fourth time in seven years.
josef
June 28th, 2012
10:07 am
This whole megillah is funny in a bizarre sort of way. The best comment I’ve heard yet was the Jon Stewart take last p.m. All that’s missing now is that little countdown clock in the corner of the screen til game time…
I’ve said it before and will keep saying it. Nationalize the health care system and the ones who made the mess to begin with can get in line with that lady at Whole Foods.
ByteMe - Political thug
June 28th, 2012
10:07 am
supremecourt.gov just had a seizure.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
June 28th, 2012
10:07 am
Why do all the news organization say we are waiting on SCOTUS to make a ruling on ACA? The ruling was made 2 months ago. We are awaiting the results of that ruling.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:07 am
Jay: ETA is 10:15, USinUK
Damn, beat me to it lol
ty webb
June 28th, 2012
10:07 am
screw this case…I’m still wondering if that fifth dentist will finally recommend Trident.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:07 am
OMG OMG READING IT NOW
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
June 28th, 2012
10:08 am
Thanks Jay …
(which reminds me of a funny I saw the other day … “why is patience a virtue … why isn’t ‘hurry the eff up’ a virtue, instead”)
Don't Tread
June 28th, 2012
10:08 am
0bama wishes he could rule on “unchallengeable edict”…
ty webb
June 28th, 2012
10:08 am
mandate’s gone
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
10:08 am
mandate dead
Paul
June 28th, 2012
10:08 am
Normal
That explanation transcends all the pettiness and selfishness so many invoke..
Thank you.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
June 28th, 2012
10:08 am
So I go over to CNN and see the headline………..
The Supreme Court throws out law
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making it a crime to lie about receiving military honors
Jay
June 28th, 2012
10:08 am
Opinion is now in …
Don't Forget
June 28th, 2012
10:09 am
I heard a story years ago of a lady who had 3 grocery carts filled and paid with food stamps who was driving a cadilac. Of course she was a volunteer who was shopping for shut ins though. Don’t know if it’s a true story but there an old saying that you shouldn’t judge a book by its cover.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:09 am
YEAAAAAHHHHHHH! Individual mandate CONSTITUIONAL!!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOM!
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
June 28th, 2012
10:09 am
IM Struck down
Jay
June 28th, 2012
10:09 am
Scotusblog says mandate survives; CNN says it doesn’t
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:10 am
Survives as a tax, is what I just saw.
Peadawg
June 28th, 2012
10:10 am
Yahoo says it survives as a tax.
USMC
June 28th, 2012
10:10 am
Individual MANDATE—-UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:10 am
SCOTUS blog: “So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court.”
Don't Forget
June 28th, 2012
10:11 am
Instant replay?
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
June 28th, 2012
10:11 am
Upheld the mandate to obtain Health Insurance, I think
ty webb
June 28th, 2012
10:11 am
very confusing.
JOE COOL
June 28th, 2012
10:12 am
-So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court-
http://news.yahoo.com/the-supreme-court-s-obamacare-decision–live-coverage-from-scotusblog.html
Don't Forget
June 28th, 2012
10:12 am
Constitutional under taxing authority not commerce clause. Interesting.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:12 am
The Medicaid provision is limited but not invalidated.
What does this mean?
JOE COOL
June 28th, 2012
10:12 am
USMC
June 28th, 2012
10:10 am
WRONG! ^^^^
stands for decibels
June 28th, 2012
10:12 am
Republicans lifted all the other ideas from Democrats, and Democrats will support them.
Progress.
I’d sure like to think so, Paul.
josef
June 28th, 2012
10:12 am
June 28th, 2012
10:11 am
Instant replay?”
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USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
June 28th, 2012
10:12 am
“So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court-
http://news.yahoo.com/the-supreme-court-s-obamacare-decision–live-coverage-from-scotusblog.html”
that sound you hear is a thousand heads a’sploding … and that’s just Joseph and USMC
Simple Truths
June 28th, 2012
10:12 am
This is like the scene in Pulp Fiction where Travolta explains hash bars in Amsterdam….
Don't Forget
June 28th, 2012
10:13 am
USMC
Brosephus™
June 28th, 2012
10:13 am
feel for you, but unfortunately under the ACA, costs will be going up, not down. I’m sure you’re smart enough to understand that.
Duh!! And how many times have I said I didn’t like this deal??? You’re sounding a tad bit smug with your “freedom” spill today, and that’s not usually how you come off. Maybe I’m reading you wrong… maybe not.
However, I’m scratching my head at the very basics of the entire healthcare issue. How can a party that’s hell bent on keeping people from having abortions so hell bent on not making sure those babies have access to healthcare?
The way the system works now, you’re ok if you can maintain a healthy lifestyle. You can be healthy as hell and still get cancer or something else. Once you have that pre-existing condition, you’re f**ked. If your child is born with some medical defect, you’re f**ked.
If it were me, I’d do away with the insurance industry altogether. If you want to cut costs, that’s where the majority of the cost cutting can happen without collapsing the entire system. I sincerely hope and pray you stay single and healthy. If you end up having to support a family, I hope you don’t gamble with their health as you do with yours.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:13 am
CONSTITUTIONAL!
BOOOOOOM!
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Peadawg
June 28th, 2012
10:13 am
CNN is all kinds of confused
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
June 28th, 2012
10:13 am
scotus blog
The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government’s power to terminate states’ Medicaid funds is narrowly read.
JOE COOL
June 28th, 2012
10:14 am
Breaking News:
Insurance mandate survives in 6-3 Supreme Court decision
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
June 28th, 2012
10:14 am
So it is contsitutional? Except when it is not?
Skip
June 28th, 2012
10:14 am
Kicked the can down the road.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
June 28th, 2012
10:14 am
God Bless America!
I can’t spike the ball…I’m too short…..