Supreme Court strips Romney of favorite argument
So how does Mitt Romney, the architect of RomneyCare, attack ObamaCare from this point forward?
Until now, Romney has claimed that the individual mandate is fine as policy when implemented at the state level. In fact, he has said repeatedly that he believes he did the right thing as governor of Massachusetts.
In a GOP debate in January, for example, Romney defended his plan on its merits, arguing that “everyone has a requirement to either buy it or pay the state for the cost of providing them free care. Because the idea of people getting something for free when they could afford to care for themselves is something that we decided in our state was not a good idea.”
However, while Romney argued that such an approach was right for Massachusetts, he also argued that it would be unconstitutional to implement it at the federal level. That was his get-out-of-jail card; that was the core of the distinction that he attempted to draw between RomneyCare and ObamaCare:
What was good policy at the state level was unconstitutional at the federal level.
Except that as we now know, it’s not. Romney’s argument has been rendered null and void by today’s Supreme Court decision upholding the mandate and the tax penalty used to enforce it.
Romney could, I suppose, try to seize upon the court’s description of the penalty as a tax to try to explain how his plan was different. U.S. Sen. Lindsay Thomas, in an appearance on Fox News this afternoon, was already pitching that line, claiming that “the issue is no longer about health care; it’s about taxes.”
Unfortunately for that line of argument, the tax penalty levied under RomneyCare on those who refuse to buy health insurance differs from that under ObamaCare only by degree, and not in a way friendly to Romney. You see, the maximum tax penalty in RomneyCare, at $1,212, is considerably higher than the maximum of $695 under ObamaCare.
Of course, none of this means that Romney won’t keep attacking the federal plan so clearly modeled after his own strategy. It just means that he won’t be able to do so credibly or logically.
– Jay Bookman
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"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2012
10:07 pm
Jay – It’s ironic you’ll excuse the video where Obama lied.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 28th, 2012
10:08 pm
Obama lied to 350 million Americans.
Kinda like, the smoking gun is the mushroom cloud?
Common Damn Sense isn't Very Common
June 28th, 2012
10:08 pm
Jay
Do you have any bourbon to spare the numb nuts are getting to me,
JamVet
June 28th, 2012
10:08 pm
Yes, the GOP’s Elaine dance takes a new twist.
A dizzying lot, to be sure…
Brosephus™
June 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
Oscar
I always think of old as ten years more then I am.
I used to think that, until the guy in the mirror started looking like somebody’s daddy.
————-
NoCom
I think you stumbled onto the cure for healthcare issues. Rotgut bourbon for everybody!!!!
Time for me to hang up my keyboard for the night now….
Catch y’all later.
Orange 12
June 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
“bman: What will happen if a person doesn’t pay? If there’s a “fine”, someone has to collect that fine, right?”
Deducted from anything you get when filing at the end of the year (if you are lucky enough to have anything coming back at the end of the year). If not they will probably tack on a nice late fee which keeps on growing until it’s paid in full. That’s usually the way IRS works.
Paul
June 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
bman
“Paul .. .. I’m pretty sure no one really knows how this will play out. There’s no way to find that answer here, or anywhere else.
No one knows.”
Some things are known.
The rate at which the feds will support the states for Medicaid spending.
How much it won’t cost families if they get a catastrophic illness with a game-playing insurance company under the old system – the cost of lifetime savings, home equity, draining retirement savings.
That one can count on some money being spent – for a child or grandchild who, because of preexisting conditions, was not before insurable.
For a lot of people, that’s what they can count on.
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
Reconciliation
If the Rs keep the House and gain a one vote majority in the Senate and POTUS Romney — Obamacare is vaporized.
Rightwing Troll
June 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
These wingnuts put that whole riverdance thing to shame…
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:11 pm
That tax argument isn’t going to change anything. And now that the Democrats are going to start selling it (finally) more people will start to like it. That poll number people kept trotting out? About to start DROPPING.
barking frog
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
wingnuts turn left or right.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
Obamacare = HOPE and CHANGE.
That hopey changey thing is working out REAL GOOD right now.
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
Nanny, Nanny, Boo, Boo
We’re just gettin’ warmed up… Stay Tuned
getalife
June 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
willard wants to keep the good things in the bill if you listened to him today.
That is not a repeal cons.
He is lying.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
Five Thirty Eight predicts approx. 3.1 new electoral votes for Obama since last week.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
Some things are known.
“The message is that there are no “knowns.” There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don’t know.”
JamVet
June 28th, 2012
10:14 pm
Will the cons take their morning after pills tomorrow?
Cuz they sure got “screwed” today! (By one of their own, no less!)
getalife
June 28th, 2012
10:15 pm
frog,
wingnuts turn right.
moonbats turn left.
Paul
June 28th, 2012
10:16 pm
“But it’s a tax!”
So what?
“But Obama said it wasn’t a tax!”
So what?
“But he said it wasn’t!”
The Supremes said it is.
“But Obama lied!!!”
He gave his opinion. The Supremes gave theirs. Supremes trump all.
geesh…… I forgot what it was like having preschoolers in the house.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:16 pm
Will the cons take their morning after pills tomorrow?
Cuz they sure got “screwed” today! (By one of their own, no less!)
Nah, they welcomed a new “person” to the family.
Oscar
June 28th, 2012
10:17 pm
“Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment” – BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
__________
A one vote majority in the senate amounts to deadlock. It takes sixty votes to bring a bill to a vote there. In effect, it taxes sixty votes in the senate to pass a bill.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:19 pm
Paul, actually the mandate is not a tax. The penalty for not having insurance is a tax. An unenforceable tax.
Paul
June 28th, 2012
10:19 pm
Hey Kamchak
That quote, for all the ridicule it received, was straight out of the DoD’s war colleges and high-level planning instructions. Doesn’t surprise me at all a SecDef would refer to them.
barking frog
June 28th, 2012
10:19 pm
getalife
if a wingnut only turned
right you couldn’t unscrew
it after you screwed it. i
have never screwed a
moonbat.
Ronnie Raygun
June 28th, 2012
10:20 pm
How sad, a tax on freeloaders. Why would cons be upset about that? Unless they’re the freeloaders.
Paul
June 28th, 2012
10:20 pm
Adam
I’m sure those still not reconciled to reality will say all of Obamacare is a tax.
Oscar
June 28th, 2012
10:20 pm
Romney is still saying he will give an exemption to all states which means repeal the whole bill. That means going back to pre-existing conditions.
With deadlock in the senate, there is no way another bill is going to pass anytime soon.
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2012
10:21 pm
For the lunatix who tried to arrest Karl Rove I have a message.
Eric Holder is now in Criminal Contempt of Congress.
Nancy Pelosi’s little jail cell in the Capitol oubliette is ready for him. he can have a Koran, prayer rug and Halal meals.
Paul
June 28th, 2012
10:21 pm
Raygun
“How sad, a tax on freeloaders. Why would cons be upset about that? Unless they’re the freeloaders”
Maybe they’re confused and think the people not paying any tax are those thousand or so millionaires JamVet cites and they’re mad Obama’s gonna tax them?
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:22 pm
Paul: I’m sure those still not reconciled to reality will say all of Obamacare is a tax.
Like I said before, it’s moot. The tax argument isn’t going to sway public pinion any more than the constant attack on the whole darn thing from day one.
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2012
10:24 pm
Video is a biatch !!!
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
Info
Holder is not the 1st to be held in “contempt”. If you think he will be charged with a crime, I have some ocean front property to show you in Cumming Ga
JamVet
June 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
Info Meat, you are just the last in a long line of Republican meltdowns here today. Some bordering on the spectacular.
You boys had better find a way to buck up.
Because the prediction for the rest of the year is…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1TxiVhrkZA
Live me some Reagan
June 28th, 2012
10:27 pm
Info
Like many cons today, you are crying like a biatch
It will be ok.
I know the talk show host, blogs, Fox, etc sold you that Obamacare was not constitutional and YOU willingly as usual ate it up, but don’t be mad at others. You have your own ignorance and gullibility to blame
That Black Guy
June 28th, 2012
10:29 pm
Doggone/GA
June 28th, 2012
8:28 pm
++++++++++++++++++++
Doggone, thanks for the feed back. I have bookmarked it. I want my Jordan to have a companion. If I go with a CC, she will probably out weigh him by about 15 to 20 lbs ( hes about 115).
Thanks for the advice.
Soothsayer
June 28th, 2012
10:29 pm
I don’t know how old any of you are nor would I have any way of knowing how old you are.
But, I will tell you this, once you reach 50, be prepared for your insurance premiums to skyrocket.
“Oh, I not worried, I’m covered at work.” Guess what? Higher insurance costs are the reason many employers let workers go in their 50s.
It’s especially bad if you’re self-employed. When my insurance reached $500 a month, I simply had to let it go. I don’t have $500 a month.
As I mentioned earlier, I estimate (based on past increases) that my insurance now would be approximately $750 a month. That’s bumping up against what my mortgage costs.
You young folks, enjoy it while you’re young. You face a harsh reality when you get older.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 28th, 2012
10:30 pm
Cammie !!!
You’re back !
getalife
June 28th, 2012
10:31 pm
“i
have never screwed a
moonbat.”
I have, I prefer my women to be very liberal in bed.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 28th, 2012
10:32 pm
JamVet @ 10:14
If I had to choose between winning today and winning in November ……………. it’s no contest.
This could turn out to be a total blessing in disquise with Obama defeated and a repeal of “Obamacare” to boot.
Time will tell ………………. time will tell.
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
10:36 pm
Scout
Today is a long way from November, bu the polls didn’t show any adverse impact
just sayn
Mr_B
June 28th, 2012
10:36 pm
“Enacting single payer healthcare kills the private sector insurance industry.”
To quote the Melancholy Prince: “A consummation devoutly to be wish’d”
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
10:36 pm
TBG
Whats up? when are we going to have a beer. Rightie and leftie. We can exchange emails via jay
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:37 pm
This could turn out to be a total blessing in disquise with Obama defeated and a repeal of “Obamacare” to boot.
From Five Thirty Eight:
With due respect, I think this counterintuitive conclusion is too cute by half. It may involve the same sort of wishful thinking that liberals were guilty of when some began to argue that the court striking the health care bill would actually help Mr. Obama politically.
….
…continued dissatisfaction over the health care bill was presumably already priced into the polls. A decision that upholds the status quo is not likely to change that much.
To the extent there are marginal effects of the court’s decision, they would seem to be positive for Mr. Obama. The framework of the bill has now been endorsed by the court, including by John G. Roberts Jr., the relatively conservative and relatively well-respected Chief Justice who wrote the majority opinion.
barking frog
June 28th, 2012
10:38 pm
getalife
moonbats may be liberal in
bed but wingnuts go both
ways
bman
June 28th, 2012
10:39 pm
Paul .. .. I sorta meant no one really knows how this will turn out meaning, the economic part.
cloudodust
June 28th, 2012
10:41 pm
This new ‘law’ will now be honed to give yet another free ride to those that were already on the presidential free ride express, i.e. waivers for the huddled masses that huddle to demand more free rides. The moochers will continue to mooch for they know no other way of life…
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
10:41 pm
bman @ 10:39
that is most certainly correct
getalife
June 28th, 2012
10:41 pm
frog,
Good one
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 28th, 2012
10:41 pm
They BOTH suck:
I hear you ……………. we shall see.
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:44 pm
The moochers will continue to mooch for they know no other way of life…
This is crazy. In the mind of a conservative, a person who pays a tax is still a moocher. WTF people.
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2012
10:44 pm
The haters make me smile… Thanx for ignoring the facts and proving my points.
Stix and Stones….
Video sux for y’all and the only thing I see is that you dimwitz insult me and evade the truth, “It’s not a tax……..” —- BULLSHIZZZZZ
Bang ur gongs. Hit ur bongs. Ask mommy for $10 so you can stock up on crappy beer (If ur over 21) and a QT burrito.
Congressman David Scott is almost here… I ordered a slutty whore and they’re sending me my rep from Congress….
Whoopie !!!
JamVet
June 28th, 2012
10:45 pm
If I had to choose between winning today and winning in November ……………. it’s no contest.
No worries. You’re going to lose that one too.
bman
June 28th, 2012
10:47 pm
how do the people who are here illegally fit into all of this? Is there something in the bill that touches on this?
JamVet
June 28th, 2012
10:47 pm
Info meat is getting close to critical mass.
Pretty soon ……………… Thar she blows!
Orange 12
June 28th, 2012
10:47 pm
Maybe Obama will tack a new $5.00 tax on a pack of smokes or on a six pack. Man, that would be the beginning of the end. I wonder if he still fires up or really quit?
getalife
June 28th, 2012
10:48 pm
The godfather speaks:
“You know what, the Supreme Court did what it thought best. I believe in that process, whether I agree with it or not,” said Rick Santelli, CNBC’s on-air editor, on CNBC on Thursday after the Supreme Court ruled in a 5-4 decision that the Affordable Care Act was constitutional. “I challenge the conservatives in Congress to take this decision with respect. With respect!”
Good luck with that.
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
10:50 pm
Scout
As I have stated, Obamacare is nothing great. I do see it as a step forward but nothing special
Bush and the Repub Congress had six yrs and punted. Now the Repubs are mad. Obama did allow more provisions, as Jay as highlighted, than most on the right will admit. With that said Obama did want a bill and wanted it fast. Too fast in my opinion.
Politics is nothing new. Founding Fathers fought tooth and nail even before we were a country.
healthcare /insurance as it is, is a fiasco for a country of our stature. We should lead the pack for all.
I can only hope that both D and R work to tweak this into a viable bill. And yes that means Dems comprising from what is the current law
getalife
June 28th, 2012
10:50 pm
Orange,
After he watched cnn and fox report the mandate failed, he probably could use one.
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
10:51 pm
Orange
After today’s ruling he might be burning a “fat one”
Josef
June 28th, 2012
10:51 pm
If we’re trading bloggers with Kyle, we got the raw end of the deal….
Paul
June 28th, 2012
10:51 pm
bman
ah, gotcha. Good point.
There was one thing for sure, though – not doing anything, just leaving things to run as they were a few years ago was a wee bit of a problem.
Orange 12
June 28th, 2012
10:52 pm
This is better then watching “wrasslin” on Monday night. Tick, Tick, Tick. the Obamacare clock is off and running.
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
10:52 pm
josef
I agree
Paul
June 28th, 2012
10:54 pm
bman
“how do the people who are here illegally fit into all of this? Is there something in the bill that touches on this?”
Yes – they don’t fit in. Bill specifically excludes them.
I wonder if Republicans want to repeal that,too?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 28th, 2012
10:55 pm
With that said Obama did want a bill and wanted it fast. Too fast in my opinion.
Yep, he wussed out on single payer.
But this age we now live in is super fast and 24/7.
JamVet
June 28th, 2012
10:56 pm
Man, I love the smell of outraged neocons in the evening.
It’s the smell of …………………………………….. victory.
And with that I bid you ladies, gentlemen and Republicans, sweet dreams…
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2012
10:56 pm
JamVet — Thanx fur the lurve.
Are you still sitting on your porch barking at the moon and the mailman?
Sigh…..
Video playback sux 4 u. Please keep banging on your keyboard and convincing the sane folks in this blog that you are from Planet Dipstick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg-ofjXrXio
Tell us all how this is charade made up by Faux Newz
Hang on …. The nurse will get to your diaper in a few minutes…..
Paul
June 28th, 2012
10:56 pm
Josef
“If we’re trading bloggers with Kyle, we got the raw end of the deal….”
Kyle’s a lucky guy, eh?
Anywho, just got the last bit of work out, I’m beat and I think I’ll go float in the pool for a bit. With these days it’s almost like a hot tub.
See you in the morning for round two of “but it’s a tax!!! Obama said so!!!! Taaaaaxxxxxx!!!!!!”
Pleasant evening, all -
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
10:57 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Sn6mOpxt4
TGT
June 28th, 2012
10:59 pm
In honor of today’s ruling, I give you:
Barack’s Candy Mountains (sung to Big Rock Candy Mountains)
One evening as the sun went down and the American Dream was burning,
Down the track came a hobo hiking and he said boys I’m not turning.
I’m headin’ for a land not so far away just across the Grande Fountains.
So come with me, we’ll go and see Barack’s Candy Mountains
In Barack’s Candy Mountains there’s a land that’s fair and bright,
Where the food stamps grow on bushes and you step out every night,
Where the TEA Parties are all empty and the sun shines every day
On the birds and the bees and the marijuana trees,
Where the lemonade springs where Common sings
In Barack’s Candy Mountains.
In Barack’s Candy Mountains all the cops have sold their guns,
And the president claims privilege while Holder is all but done.
The tax coffers are full of loot and ACORN is flush with dough.
Oh, I’m bound to go where there ain’t no snow,
’Cause Al Gore says that Global Warming is so
In Barack’s Candy Mountains.
In Barack’s Candy Mountains you never sell your stocks,
And the little babies in the womb never get to wear their socks.
The conservatives have to tip their hats and the talk show hosts are mute.
There’s a lake of stew and of Honest Tea too,
You can find them all at the gay wedding ball
In Barack’s Candy Mountains.
In Barack’s Candy Mountains the doctors all are free,
And you can walk right in their office any time you please.
There ain’t no nuclear power plants, no oil or gas or coal.
I’m a goin’ to stay where you sleep all day,
Where they hung the jerk that invented work
In Barack’s Candy Mountains.
I’ll see you all next coming fall to bring down Barack’s Candy Mountains.
That Black Guy
June 28th, 2012
11:00 pm
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
10:36 pm
TBG
Whats up? when are we going to have a beer. Rightie and leftie. We can exchange emails via jay
_________________________________________________
TBS, my man. What’s good? Staying cool I hope.
“Rightie and Leftie”? You gonna play both parts?
I’m open. Just not this Sat. I’m going to a taping of Family Feud with my ex.
Other than that, I’m open. I’m on the south side, by the airport.
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
11:00 pm
TGT
and I give you a tissue or ten
Jm
June 28th, 2012
11:03 pm
TGT
Don’t know where you got that
But it’s not very useful to the discussion
Then again, dialogue of substance doesn’t occur here
bman
June 28th, 2012
11:03 pm
Paul
“Yes – they don’t fit in. Bill specifically excludes them.
I wonder if Republicans want to repeal that,too?”
If the bill excludes those who are here illegally, how will they be able to contribute ? I’m sure there is something somewhere in the bill that mentions it?
That Black Guy
June 28th, 2012
11:04 pm
Adam
June 28th, 2012
10:44 pm
The moochers will continue to mooch for they know no other way of life…
This is crazy. In the mind of a conservative, a person who pays a tax is still a moocher. WTF people.
________________________________________________________________________
But, according to what I read, they don’t HAVE to pay the tax. NO enforcement. And 25 million STILL without insurance. This bill sucks.
I understand it, but it still sucks.
UHC is the only way to go.
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
11:05 pm
Jay
Please see TBGs post @ 11:00 and my 10:36 Please send TBG my email address so we can connect off line. Thanks and appreciate you doing so, if you will.
Orange 12
June 28th, 2012
11:05 pm
“Yes – they don’t fit in.Bill specifically excludes them.
I wonder if Republicans want to repeal that,too?”
It only affects them if a Gov. agency is doing a study on a particular portion of their illegal life IE: health related, economic ramifications etc. Paul is right, it has no direct impact as far as illegals collecting Gov. mandated healthcare.
Jay is dumber than dumb
June 28th, 2012
11:05 pm
Socialism rocks!!!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 28th, 2012
11:05 pm
In honor of today’s ruling, I give you:
Barack’s Candy Mountains
Ruh, roh.
There went your anonymity, Trevor.
That Black Guy
June 28th, 2012
11:08 pm
Thanks Jay
Orange 12
June 28th, 2012
11:08 pm
“If the bill excludes those who are here illegally, how will they be able to contribute ? I’m sure there is something somewhere in the bill that mentions it?”
bman, they will keep using ERs, stealing identities, stuff like that.
Jay is dumber than dumb
June 28th, 2012
11:09 pm
Can’t wait til ObamaSocialistCare starts rationing those little pain pills to granny Barry so sympathetically talked about during his first campaign!!! LOL!!!!!!
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
11:09 pm
TBG
And yes I guess I’m burning both ends of the candle
While Obamcare is not the “fix”, it moves the ball further down the field then Repubs would have ever moved it. “Repeal and replace”? A rallying cry after the fact.
Hope Obama, if reelected, and the Repub House(which will be intact) can work to modify and revise a half ass law into positive results. yes, wishful thinking, but I can “KEEP HOPE ALIVE”, cant I?
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2012
11:09 pm
I doubt the Thug from the imaginary Steppes could do 25 pushups.
Hey Kammie — Comic Book or Fantasy Game nerds can type real good. Too bad them catz ain’t got no game other than cyber existence.
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 28th, 2012
11:10 pm
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
11:11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peinryzVgJI
Jay is dumber than dumb
June 28th, 2012
11:11 pm
What’s next? Telling us what kind of lightbulbs we can use, what cars we should own, taking salt and large soda drinks away, rummaging through our children’s school lunches? Ooopps, wait, nevermind!!! LOL!!!
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
“I doubt the Thug from the imaginary Steppes could do 25 pushups.”
And your own post behind your desk and keyboard shows you can do how many?
Jm
June 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
“Hope Obama, if reelected, and the Repub House(which will be intact) can work to modify and revise a half ass law into positive results. yes, wishful thinking, but I can “KEEP HOPE ALIVE”, cant I?”
Wishful is one way to put it.
So is naive and clueless.
That Black Guy
June 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
For, getalife, Kam, JamVet, and others.
Is it more important that the “right” loses or that Americans win?
Would all of America’s problems go away if all “cons”/repub were teleported to planet kablob or where ever?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
Comic Book or Fantasy Game nerds can type real good.
Carpenters with two crushed fingers however have a hard time of it.
Thank you for your concern, BTW.
Jay is dumber than dumb
June 28th, 2012
11:13 pm
So since Barry spent 2 years lecturing to the country that his Socialist mandate wasn’t a tax, and we learned today it actually is, what now???? LOL!!!
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
11:13 pm
Jm
This from the same guy all day, hey lets tax fat so, people with this, people with that
boy you are funny and yes I said boy
Jay is dumber than dumb
June 28th, 2012
11:14 pm
American’s problems would all go away if all “Comms/leftists” were teleported to planet kablob or where ever!!! LOL!!!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 28th, 2012
11:15 pm
Is it more important that the “right” loses or that Americans win?
That you see that as an either/or speaks volumes.
Would all of America’s problems go away if all “cons”/repub were teleported to planet kablob or where ever?
No. What a silly question.
Tom(Independent-Viet Vet USAF)
June 28th, 2012
11:15 pm
I guess Pres John F Kennedy(Democrat/War Hero) famous words, “Ask not want your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”!! Boy, has the Democrat moochers changed so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jm
June 28th, 2012
11:16 pm
Jay is dumber than dumb
Your moniker could use some more creative flair…..
Surely you have something better…..
Like: jay is dumber than a tax on people too poor to buy health insurance
They BOTH suck
June 28th, 2012
11:16 pm
Jm
you are the same cry baby yearning for jay’s attention as you were before today….
nothing new, son
you need a new gig.
there are times you try, but you can’t get out of the doldrums
You saved a few dollars in FL but the wife wants to come home (your words, not mine) but your pride can’t do it.
It is ok
dont rain on my parade…. enjoy your 10k
Jay is dumber than dumb
June 28th, 2012
11:17 pm
Since the Supreme Court deprived the Obama sheep this November with their talking points, where else will the current Communist occupation find their aimless emotional, misguided anger to rally their government dependent minions? LOL!!!
Jm
June 28th, 2012
11:17 pm
Tbs
I believe in taxing fatties
And apparently it’s constitutional
What’s your problem? You a fatty?