Scalia plays politician; Romney plays possum
In another sign of just how screwy things have gotten, Mitt Romney, the GOP nominee for president, steadfastly refuses to get involved in the political debate about immigration. He refuses to offer his own ideas about a national immigration strategy*, and he won’t voice an opinion on President Obama’s controversial decision not to deport illegal aliens who were brought here as young children.
But worry not: A supposedly nonpolitical Supreme Court justice, Antonin Scalia, is eager to jump into the political fray where Romney is too meek to tread. In his radical dissent to today’s ruling on the Arizona immigration law, Scalia argues that Arizona and the other 49 states have the right to exercise “what most would consider the defining characteristic of sovereignty: the power to exclude from the sovereign’s territory people who have no right to be there.”
“Even in its international relations, the federal government must live with the inconvenient fact that it is a Union of independent states, who have their own sovereign powers,” Scalia writes.
Just as remarkably, Scalia used his dissent to lambaste Obama’s decision regarding children of illegal immigrants, slyly referring to “the Executive’s unwise targeting” of available resources to combat illegal immigration.
“The husbanding of scarce enforcement resources can hardly be the justification for this, since the considerable administrative cost of conducting as many as 1.4 million background checks, and ruling on the biennial requests for dispensation that the non-enforcement program envisions, will necessarily be deducted from immigration enforcement,” Scalia complained.
Scalia plays politician; Romney plays possum.
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*Note: Here’s the official Romney response to today’s ruling:
“Today’s decision underscores the need for a president who will lead on this critical issue and work in a bipartisan fashion to pursue a national immigration strategy. President Obama has failed to provide any leadership on immigration. This represents yet another broken promise by this president. I believe that each state has the duty — and the right — to secure our borders and preserve the rule of law, particularly when the federal government has failed to meet its responsibilities. As Candidate Obama, he promised to present an immigration plan during his first year in office. But four years later, we are still waiting.”
– Jay Bookman
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Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
7:34 pm
“Most medical problems are not difficult or unusual to most doctors.”
If you mean by that 51%, I would concur. But why don’t you look into how many problems are misdiagnosed or determined to be idiopathic before opining on the subject. And that leads to increased costs, which was why I mentioned this issue to begin with.
JamVet
June 25th, 2012
7:34 pm
Why wouldn’t I want to entrust other American’s health care to an entity that already provides me with the greatest health care in the entire country?
That is a damn good question!
The Gold Standard, baby…
kayaker 71
June 25th, 2012
7:35 pm
Adam,
Where did you go to medical school?
TaxPayer
June 25th, 2012
7:35 pm
Not the “not the infant mortality argument” and rationalization of said after the abortion argument regarding “innocent life” is challenged again.
The United States has the highest rate of infant mortality of any of these comparison countries while Japan, the competitor with the longest life expectancy, has the lowest. In the United States, the most common causes of infant mortality are congenital malformations and disorders associated with low birth-weight and short gestation.
The fact that the United States has the highest infant mortality is not because of a lack of specialists or facilities for neonatal births; on the contrary, America has more neonatologists and neonatal intensive care beds per person than Australia, Canada, or the United Kingdom.
As with other health metrics, America’s relative performance is declining. In 1960, the United States had the twelfth lowest infant mortality rate in the world. By 1990, we had dropped to twenty-third, and we sank to thirty-fourth in 2008. Our high infant mortality rate evidences the economic, ethnic, and racial disparities referred to earlier. For example, in 2005, African-American infants suffered a death rate of 13.63 per 1,000 births, more than twice the national average. The CDC’s 2004 world rankings indicate that an African-American baby would have a better chance of survival if born in Russia or Bulgaria than in the United States. Low birth-weight incidence explains some of the racial inequality. Low-weight births, defined as newborns weighing less than 2,500 grams or approximately five pounds, are about twice as common among African Americans as among (non-Hispanic) Caucasian and Hispanic babies, occurring at a rate of 13 percent among the former and at a rate of only 6.5 percent among the latter. Among the factors contributing to these lopsided outcomes are disparities in prenatal care, nutritional supplementation for pregnant women, and inadequate social welfare. Yet even if we eliminate this racial disparity and compare only the infant mortality rate of Caucasian Americans, our ranking versus the competitor countries is unaffected.
Infant mortality is just one of many metrics where the US used to be a world leader and has slipped in the last few decades. Other countries have identified leading practices that United States can learn from and adopt to improve its health care system. The idea of applying competitive intelligence and identification of best practices to countries is explored in detail in Measure of a Nation, where the publicly available data is displayed, links are provided and suggestions for improving America based on this competitive intelligence are discussed.
Adam
June 25th, 2012
7:35 pm
Towncrier: Then doctors need to be better educated and vetted. What other solution would you propose, NOT suing them when they screw up royal?
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
7:36 pm
“Which is a much clearer possibility, by the way.”
Once again, you are in the small minority in this sentiment. Very few people suppose it will be anything but a close race. So, don’t confuse wishful thinking with actual probabilities.
Adam
June 25th, 2012
7:39 pm
Once again, you are in the small minority in this sentiment.
First of all, you never told ME that the first time. Secondly, you are incorrect:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Even if Obama wasn’t winning these polls overall, a “very small minority” is not something I would attribute to either side of the poll unless one side had less than 30%.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
7:41 pm
“Then doctors need to be better educated and vetted.”
Which I think I argued (at least with respect to education) in one of my posts. Better vetted as well.
“What other solution would you propose, NOT suing them when they screw up royal?”
Not at all. But what constitutes a “royal screw up” as opposed to a human oversight? I personally am not comfortable with lawyers like John Edwards used to be and fickle juries deciding this. This needs to be well thought out, would you not agree?
They BOTH suck
June 25th, 2012
7:41 pm
kayaker
Thanks for the perspective and I’m sure there is much bad as well as good that goes with that much work and effort to obtain all the required credentials. I tip my hat to you and all the others who are intelligent enough and have the ability to and willingness to take the time to become a doctor
With that said, even with all the hoopla going around about what Obamacare would mean if approved, there isn’t a mass exodus from the profession nor has there been a decline in those applying for med school. It is actually up here in GA.
And while the law in Massachusetts isn’t the exact same Obamacare would be, it is similar and there hasn’t been a mass exodus of doctors leaving the bizz or the state to practice elsewhere.
I’m sure some have left, but some leave for various reasons even before Obamacare was passed.
TGT
June 25th, 2012
7:42 pm
So let me get this straight, you libs want the govt. responsible for providing more and better healthcare so that we can save more children, yet you want no govt. restrictions on abortion so that we can “legally” kill more of our children ?!
Come on now libs! Remember, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
They BOTH suck
June 25th, 2012
7:44 pm
http://blog.medstudentlearning.com/2011/11/medical-school-enrollment-is-increasing.html
TaxPayer
June 25th, 2012
7:44 pm
Infant mortality rate is defined as the number of deaths of infants one year or younger per 1,000 live births. It is a critical measure because the death of a young child has a greater impact on a population’s life expectancy than does a death from disease or injury in the middle or later stages of life. In the developing world, infant mortality tends to be a result of pneumonia, diarrhea, tetanus, and congenital malformation. In the developed world, it is typically associated with low birth-weight or extremely premature births.
TaxPayer
June 25th, 2012
7:44 pm
So let me get this straight, you libs want the govt. responsible for providing more and better healthcare so that we can save more children, yet you want no govt. restrictions on abortion so that we can “legally” kill more of our children ?!
Nope.
Adam
June 25th, 2012
7:44 pm
But what constitutes a “royal screw up” as opposed to a human oversight?
Well I think courts need to be a little bit more discretionary when it comes to lawsuits, and not even allow the case to be tried when it can be determined that it’s frivolous. Not sure how you can codify that, but I would think something like “I spilled hot coffee on myself and got a good lawyer to say there was no warning on the cup” shouldn’t even be tried.
josef
June 25th, 2012
7:45 pm
CRIER
It’s a mess as it is…and, no, I don’t put that much faith in the government solution…
kayaker
Nope, not a medicine man myself, but got a’plenty in the fambly and I have to be careful what I say here out of fear of being put out on the porch…
NOW
The costs incurred in schooling…that should also be nationalized and not something the future health care provider should have to shoulder…
I’m with you on the ambulance chasers…that, too, has to be regulated in the nationalization to free up the physician from that spectre…
The mountains of paperwork can be alleviated when the state has to provide YOU with the staff to handle that and it doesn’t come out of your pocket…
NOW and this might surprise you…I think a doctor should be paid in the $250,000 plus range. Let’s face it, after the teachers who taught them to begin with, these are the most important people in society when it comes to live or die.
JamVet
June 25th, 2012
7:45 pm
TGT, yep, the moment they are born, they are of no use to you neocons. Until they are eighteen and can go get killed in some far off shiitehole, so you can feel better about yourselves. (Hat tip George Carlin.)
Recon 0311 2533
June 25th, 2012
7:46 pm
Funny how the left seems to be dancing a jig over this Supreme Court ruling as though it validates this administrations overreach and failure to properly govern. This ruling is temporary and is as temporal as this presidents time left in the White House. His time could end in January of next year and a new administration could undo his dictatorial ruling. Romney if elected could order his DoJ to once again enforce immigration laws that are on the books, while he and Congress seek comprehensive immigration reform.The Hispanic community needs to understand that fact and also understand that Obama has done nothing to effect lasting immigration reform since he’s been in office. His only motive is a desperation attempt for more votes from this block of voters.
Arthur Nielsen
June 25th, 2012
7:47 pm
“So let me get this straight”
Only if you’re using a pretzel for a straight edge.
Adam
June 25th, 2012
7:49 pm
Actually, TGT, my preference would be abortions should be in cases of rape, incest, and chance of death of the woman, as well as a choice the woman can make outside of that with her own money and time, no limits on number of weeks, no required input legally from anyone but her. And I think health care should provide the possibility that the woman can, as easily as possible, have a healthy and complete pregnancy with a healthy baby born, healthy childhood years all the way to 18 and perhaps beyond, without cost to the family if they are poor. I also think that a born child should be provided a minimum standard of education no matter where they live in the country, including all writing and reading materials, good teachers of every subject, critical thinking taught, and technology to support them, all free of charge if the family is poor. Do all of that TOGETHER and we can talk about the morality of some small segment of it.
Adam
June 25th, 2012
7:50 pm
RRecon: Romney if elected could order his DoJ to once again enforce immigration laws that are on the books,
Unless he doesn’t.
while he and Congress seek comprehensive immigration reform.
Unless they don’t.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
7:51 pm
“First of all, you never told ME that the first time.”
I told someone that last week and I thought it was you. My apologies if that is wrong.
“Secondly, you are incorrect:”
All of the polls cited (except the Bloomberg poll) are within the so-called margin of error – which supports what most pundits are saying (and even Obama’s adviser David Plouffe acknowledges) and what I implied: the vast majority thinks this will be a very close race and not, as you said, a much clearer possibility. You are wrong on this.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Even if Obama wasn’t winning these polls overall, a “very small minority” is not something I would attribute to either side of the poll unless one side had less than 30%.
Recon 0311 2533
June 25th, 2012
7:54 pm
Adam,
You’re correct a lot of “unless” he does or doesn’t. You reinforced my point. Thank you.
Adam
June 25th, 2012
7:54 pm
You are wrong on this.
No, you said I am in a very small minority. You were wrong about that.
And yes, it IS a clearer possibility when you look at the overall picture. Obama has a much greater chance of getting the required electoral votes.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
7:56 pm
“…as well as a choice the woman can make outside of that with her own money and time, no limits on number of weeks, no required input legally from anyone but her.”
That will never fly constitutionally, imo, because the best argument (not used by the SCOTUS) for allowing abortions is the apparent fact that they were practiced in the 18th century (though there were hardly abortion clinics set up all over the place) until quickening (hence it is not a “new” behavior but one that was not constrained by law when the Constitution was drafted and ratified).
Adam
June 25th, 2012
7:56 pm
Recon: The thing is, Romney and his allies in Congress do not support immigration reform at all, whereas Obama and Democrats do. Say what you will about how you don’t like his policy, but I would bet $100 a Romney presidency would result in no such “permanent solution” one way or the other. He wouldn’t even be able to get something MORE restrictive through Congress.
josef
June 25th, 2012
7:57 pm
Just for the record, the Romany Lady still ain’t layin’ no odds on the election…
Adam
June 25th, 2012
7:58 pm
That will never fly constitutionally, imo, because the best argument (not used by the SCOTUS) for allowing abortions is the apparent fact that they were practiced in the 18th century (though there were hardly abortion clinics set up all over the place) until quickening (hence it is not a “new” behavior but one that was not constrained by law when the Constitution was drafted and ratified).
Well I’m not going to argue that, but I will say that argument could be made now, and hasn’t been.
kayaker 71
June 25th, 2012
7:59 pm
Something that escapes many people in this health care debate which over the years, was most important to patients and families. When you have a 12 yr old daughter in the emergency room after being kicked in the head in a soccer game and the CT scan shows that she has a subdural hematoma that is threatening her life, you hope and pray that the neurosurgeon that is drilling holes in her head has had the best training in the world. Most thoughts of cost, paper work, inconvenience, etc, go out the window and your only concern is for her recovery and her future. I would hope, after Bozocare kicks in, if it does, that those devoted, people who spend half of their young adult lives training to fix that 12 yr old’s problem are around to take care of it.
Recon 0311 2533
June 25th, 2012
8:00 pm
“Obama has a much greater chance of getting the required electoral votes”
Nope he does not. He has a chance to win many swing states but so does Romney. To say he has a “much greater chance” is wishful thinking. This election will be close and Obama could lose and he knows it.
They BOTH suck
June 25th, 2012
8:00 pm
josef
The question is how many times as she been right?
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
8:01 pm
“Obama has a much greater chance of getting the required electoral votes.”
I stand by what I say. Go make your argument to David Plouffe and tell him not to sweat the election. You ARE in a very small minority. Period. I guess margin of error in polls (and the fact that Romney has gained ground vis a vis Obama since the the early days of the GOP primary race) means nothing to you. Talk to the hand.
Jm-pass TSPLOST peeps
June 25th, 2012
8:02 pm
Muslim brotherhood runs Egypt
Their motto: Islam is the solution
Jm-pass TSPLOST peeps
June 25th, 2012
8:02 pm
Women in Egypt are now terrified
josef
June 25th, 2012
8:04 pm
KAYAKER
As I said in my earlier reply to you, what you are saying is much what’s at issue…nationalize it and make sure that you ARE freed from those other concerns to do your job and pay you well for it. And as far as what you call Obozo care, another half assed measure aimed at placating the insurance companies and offering little or no relief for the practicing physician.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
8:05 pm
“Well I think courts need to be a little bit more discretionary when it comes to lawsuits, and not even allow the case to be tried when it can be determined that it’s frivolous. Not sure how you can codify that, but I would think something like “I spilled hot coffee on myself and got a good lawyer to say there was no warning on the cup” shouldn’t even be tried.”
It has to be codified, for we have some judges who apparently use p**** pumps in court.
Recon 0311 2533
June 25th, 2012
8:06 pm
Adam, had you bet that C-note in 08 when Obama said he would have comprehensive immigration reform in his first year, you would have been one hundred bucks lighter today.
TaxPayer
June 25th, 2012
8:06 pm
Kayaker best be hoping that 12-year old did not have a pre-existing condition, for example, that prevented her from getting affordable health insurance that covers stuff like CT scans as opposed to her simply being stabilized in an emergency room, receiving Ryan block grants, as required under GOP anti-”Obamacare” law.
Fester Bestertester
June 25th, 2012
8:07 pm
I had a vis a vis once. That is until I left the door of the cage open and it flew away.
F. Sinkwich
June 25th, 2012
8:08 pm
“Mostly due to government requirements, Jammie.
Your argument would be stronger, Sinkwich, if you were more specific.
Where are you specifics?”
Uh, you mean like where government requires my insurance cover my mamograms, pap smears, and pregnancies? And BC pills?
How ’bout them specifics?
Also, I’m pretty sure the Dekalb Library is closed by now. You should probably leave.
josef
June 25th, 2012
8:08 pm
BOTH
She’s got a pretty good record…she’s not one to make book too early…as she says, “you don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows and there’s a sucker born every minute.”
Adam
June 25th, 2012
8:09 pm
Towncrier: You ARE in a very small minority. Period
Your stating it (and adding talk to the hand at the end) doesn’t make it so. Obama has more electoral votes basically secured, as most of the analyzers of this kind of thing have said. That’s not a small minority. Plus, the only blog that I think matters on this is FiveThirtyEight, which has been quite reliable in predicting these things: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/ (it’s right there on the middle right widget).
TGT
June 25th, 2012
8:09 pm
TaxPayer: You just copied from the link you provided. What you posted still doesn’t note the difference in the other factors that I pointed out, especially the very definition of infant mortality.
And my 7:42 is EXACTLY what your foolish liberal logic cries out for.
JamVet: Too bad you libs don’t back up what you say with your own time and resources. Conservatives are much more likely than liberals to aid their fellow human beings (at any age) in a wide variety of ways.
Adam: In other words, you’re pro-abortion. You’re welcome to “think” all you want about such things. But when your thinking leads to confiscating the wealth of others, well that’s a different matter.
Adam
June 25th, 2012
8:10 pm
Recon: Adam, had you bet that C-note in 08 when Obama said he would have comprehensive immigration reform in his first year, you would have been one hundred bucks lighter today.
I also wouldn’t have made that bet. I was a little bit more realistic about what I thought he could and could not do, as well as my reasons for support.
TaxPayer
June 25th, 2012
8:11 pm
Uh, you mean like where government requires my insurance cover my mamograms, pap smears, and pregnancies? And BC pills?
After all, it’s not like they make up nearly half the population of something. Viagra and prostates. Them’s the only things that really matter.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
8:13 pm
“Adam, had you bet that C-note in 08 when Obama said he would have comprehensive immigration reform in his first year, you would have been one hundred bucks lighter today.”
Obama is in many ways to me acts like a used car salesman (maybe that is what Chicago or most politics is like): always talking a good game but not really delivering on the goods. It’s amazing that while he indeed promised comprehensive immigration reform (and had a decent chance of getting it done in his first two years with both houses in Democratic control), it is not until late 2011 (with another election year in sight) that he produces a document on such but no legislative push. Style over substance, it seem to me.
TaxPayer
June 25th, 2012
8:14 pm
TaxPayer: You just copied from the link you provided. What you posted still doesn’t note the difference in the other factors that I pointed out, especially the very definition of infant mortality.
And my 7:42 is EXACTLY what your foolish liberal logic cries out for.
TGT,
My C&P addressed your C&P quite well and it does address the issues your C&P tried to claim and YOUR 7:42 is exactly what YOUR logic produced.
JamVet
June 25th, 2012
8:20 pm
The only voters who really count come November are those in the electoral college.
And among them, it is not that close. Flip has to take almost all of the states that are in play. And that is not going to happen.
You neocons need to prepare yourselves for a second straight McCaining. It will make things much less difficult for you if you don’t get your hopes up on this effete, northeastern severely liberal RINO Father of Socialist Medicine.
And as mediocre as BHO is, the republic is not going to put another bungling, Bush-like, fake conservative, chickenhawk serial disaster of a sell out right back in the White House.
You sheep had your chance and you damn near killed this country. Take a good look around at your handiwork. Corporations are people, my friend.
Why pray tell, would the people ever trust you Republicans again?
If they do, it is beyond me…
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
8:22 pm
“Plus, the only blog that I think matters on this is FiveThirtyEight…”
Ah – that is the root of your thinking. No one else’s opinion (all of the many pundits and analysts who say it is going to be a very close race) matters and you imagine that since a horse has a few lengths (tied up delegates) on another horse he is going to win the race. Now I understand. Again, I stand by what I said.
Adam
June 25th, 2012
8:30 pm
Towncrier: I base that on the fact they have predicted just about every election correctly, including the recall and most state and local elections in 2010. I know you’re looking for something, ANYTHING, to make me wrong, but really you should just man up and admit that you either meant something different than what you said, or that you were plain wrong when you said I was in the very small minority.
TGT
June 25th, 2012
8:32 pm
TaxPayer: You really need to read better. NOTHING you posted addresses the fact that different nations measure infant mortality differently.
F. Sinkwich
June 25th, 2012
8:32 pm
“And among them, it is not that close. Flip has to take almost all of the states that are in play. And that is not going to happen.”
2010, Jammie. Remember that?
Tea party lives.
Adam
June 25th, 2012
8:33 pm
2010, Jammie. Remember that?
Oh yeah, right, 2010. Who did we elect for President that year again?
Rightwing Troll
June 25th, 2012
8:39 pm
“So let me get this straight, you libs want the govt. responsible for providing more and better healthcare so that we can save more children, yet you want no govt. restrictions on abortion so that we can “legally” kill more of our children ?!”
So the ones that are here and could use some saving you refer to as “the” and the one’s you feel should be saved from abortion are “ours”… interesting… save them from abortion and walk away… then what?
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
8:41 pm
“I know you’re looking for something, ANYTHING, to make me wrong, but really you should just man up and admit that you either meant something different than what you said, or that you were plain wrong when you said I was in the very small minority.”
Do you know how to read? From their site (emphasis added):
The first look at the 2012 FiveThirtyEight presidential forecast has Barack Obama as a very slight favorite to win re-election. But his advantage equates to only a two-point lead in the national popular vote, and the edge could easily swing to Mitt Romney on the basis of further bad economic news…
However, the outlook for the Nov. 6 election is much less certain, with Mr. Obama having winning odds of just over 60 percent. The forecast currently calls for Mr. Obama to win roughly 290 electoral votes, but outcomes ranging everywhere from about 160 to 390 electoral votes are plausible, given the long lead time until the election and the amount of news that could occur between now and then. Both polls and economic indicators are a pretty rough guide five months before an election….
Right now, the polls and the economy are broadly in agreement with one another — both point toward an extremely tight race — although the economic risks to Mr. Obama are somewhat to the downside.
I said most pundits and analysts are saying the race is going to be very close and could go either way. The passages I quote above from the site you said was the only one that matters says the same thing. You said Obama has a much better chance of winning than Romney. I stand by what I say: you are wrong.
Marc
June 25th, 2012
8:44 pm
Jay why aren’t you talking about all the illegalities going on in the Obama adminstration. You really could gain some credibility if you were less of an Obama/Democratic cultist. They do no wrong by you.
OK the stares do have sovereign rights that have been trampled on since Lincoln.
Orange 12
June 25th, 2012
8:46 pm
The only event that might get this country serious about doing something about illegal immigration is one that is worse than the one that took place on 09/11. Obviously, nothing was learned on that day.
Adam
June 25th, 2012
8:51 pm
Towncrier: do YOU read? This is what I wrote before: Which is a much clearer possibility, by the way. as in more clear than a Romney possibility. And I am not in a very small minority that think so, as I showed you with polls.
It is a much clearer possibility because of the electoral votes AND the polls, put together, than a “clear possibility” of Romney winning.
getalife
June 25th, 2012
8:51 pm
Orange,
I am scared of the Mormon Brotherhood and another collapse.
Adam
June 25th, 2012
8:53 pm
Towncrier: So I guess we’re playing a semantics game. I was wrong to say “much clearer.” Now, your turn. You were wrong to say “very small minority.” It’s easy. Rolls right off the keyboard.
Adam
June 25th, 2012
8:55 pm
In case it wasn’t clear I should have left out the word much, but you should have left out the whole phrase “very small minority.” That is my only point here. I never said it wouldn’t be a close race, just that I am still pretty sure Obama will win.
Jm-pass TSPLOST peeps
June 25th, 2012
8:56 pm
Mormon brotherhood
I wasn’t aware they kill their women
Orange 12
June 25th, 2012
8:56 pm
Getalife,
Too early to tell. Initial estimates do not bode well though.
Drew
June 25th, 2012
8:58 pm
Well..this tears it.. a Supreme court judge who openly and deliberately attacks and insults a sitting President?? This ahole should be brought up on slander and removed from the bench immediately. A sitting SC Judge MUST be impartial and deal with the rules of LAW. Political beliefs are personal and should never be made public. Vote how you want but you must NOT divulge any beliefs publicly..ever!! That’s the job idiot!! You can’t follow the rules?? recuse yourself from the bench.
getalife
June 25th, 2012
8:59 pm
willard takes weeks to poll his decisions.
The 3 am phone call will ring for weeks.
We will all die.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
9:00 pm
“This is what I wrote before: Which is a much clearer possibility, by the way. as in more clear than a Romney possibility.”
I know what you said. Being a “very slight favorite” and looking at an “extremely tight race” does not in my view equate to Obama having a “much clearer possibility” of winning. Sorry – and I don’t think many others would say so either – certainly not David Plouffe. And I was not talking about what Americans think according to the polls but knowledgeable commentators (and I think since I mentioned pundits and analysts more than once). I don’t know what else I can say but at this point I am content to let the matter drop.
JamVet
June 25th, 2012
9:03 pm
For the Lovers of the One Percent.
They created the worst economic downturn in our lifetime. The neocon version of the Great Depression.
Stagnant wages for so many Americans that they have lost ground since the 1970s. The first generation of Americans to say that we do not have it better than our parents generation.
The American middle class lost 40% of it’s assets from 2007 to 2010.
Trickle down poverty so staggering that more working poor now live in the suburbs than in the inner cities. Once solidly middle class Republican families now on food stamps and welfare. By the droves.
And Atlanta has gotten especially murdered. And is now far behind many of its regional and national rivals.
She is expected to only recover about 19% of the jobs lost during the Great Recession by this year’s end.
And the region has lost almost as many jobs as it created since 2000, growing only about 50,000 jobs during the decade.
Regional unemployment around 8.6 percent and falling residential real estate prices.
If we can keep the corporate suckups out of office for awhile, I suspect that we can recover in perhaps another ten years. Otherwise take a good look around – this will become the permanent state of affairs in America.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
9:03 pm
“So I guess we’re playing a semantics game. I was wrong to say “much clearer.” Now, your turn. You were wrong to say “very small minority.”
Adam, I didn’t see this before I posted. Thanks for that and I meant a small minority of commentators (not the public at large), but perhaps “very” is a stretch. We cool
Recon 0311 2533
June 25th, 2012
9:07 pm
Interesting how the libs comfort themselves about Obama’s assured win based on the electoral map. Guess what guy’s the map doesn’t mean doo doo at this point. Watch Obama’s erosion of support and then check your electoral map projections in late September. Y’all will either be beating your chests in anticipated victory or biting your nails. I project the latter.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
9:10 pm
“Interesting how the libs comfort themselves about Obama’s assured win based on the electoral map.”
Well, Recon, as my exchange with Adam will show, his is hardly an “assured win.” In fact, his campaign is taking this very seriously, since it appears it is going to be very close.
Billybob
June 25th, 2012
9:12 pm
the president is ignoring the separation of powers and the constitution jay, plain and simple……with the feds now saying they won’t answer the immigration call from arizona now he is thumbing his nose at his constitutional responsibilities to uphold the law…….this guy is burying himself and your radical party and your ideology here since you support this….the president now is claiming he can nullify the laws on the books if he wants to……this is unprecedented and another example of how leftists and statists rule instead of govern……moderate dems and independents are utterly fleeing this guy…..please hold your breathe as you go down with this incredibly radical leftist ship that is sinking before our very eyes…..your ilk deserves it……
Billybob
June 25th, 2012
9:14 pm
hey jam,
the one percent, the war on women and ows are folly and the public doesn’t buy the leftist media false templates anymore……try again….
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
“…with the feds now saying they won’t answer the immigration call from arizona now he is thumbing his nose at his constitutional responsibilities to uphold the law…”
Well BB, there is such a thing as dereliction of duty and I suspect the WH is NOT going to go down that path (no matter what Rush or someone like him may say).
Recon 0311 2533
June 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
Towncrier, absolutely one hundred percent correct. The libs cannot understand or refuse to accept that their dear leader could very well be out of office by January 013. It’s a very real possibility. We will have a pretty good idea by Labor Day.
getalife
June 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
bilbob,
Yeah now you run away from the truth like children.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
June 25th, 2012
9:16 pm
In other words, over 30 cents out of every dollar spent in this country on “healthcare” is for the worst, most corrupt, wasteful and inept bureaucracy of paper pushers and claim deniers that dirty money can buy…
JamVet, so the Post Office, Government Motors, Social Security and Medicare are performing better than the private sector, er health insurance?? Typical lib ostrich.
Billybob
June 25th, 2012
9:18 pm
getalife,
blah blah blah
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
9:18 pm
“This a****** should be brought up on slander and removed from the bench immediately.”
The only way to remove a SC justice is by impeachment, which the Senate in 1803 decided could only be for “indictable” offenses. So there you have. They are, for all intents and purposes (unless the Senate changes its mind) untouchable – the conservative and liberal justices alike.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
June 25th, 2012
9:19 pm
getalife
June 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
bilbob,
Yeah now you run away from the truth like children
getalife.. that is the dumbest phrase i’ve ever seen on a blog. But I have to give you props, it’s nice to know that second graders can use a computer to surf the net.
Orange 12
June 25th, 2012
9:19 pm
If Obama runs on his record he loses.
Billybob
June 25th, 2012
9:20 pm
town,
the feds have withdrawn agreements with arizona and they will not be answering the arizona calls to verify someone…..i don’t know what rush thinks about that, but that is the case…..
getalife
June 25th, 2012
9:20 pm
Get lost racist.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
June 25th, 2012
9:21 pm
Orange 12
June 25th, 2012
9:19 pm
If Obama runs on his record he loses
I’m not sure. If he shoots even par, I’m sure Chris Matthews, Ed Schittz and JamVet would gladly wash his ballz!
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
9:21 pm
“Yeah now you run away from the truth like children…”
Is that from Shakespeare? King Lear, perhaps?
TaxPayer
June 25th, 2012
9:21 pm
TaxPayer: You really need to read better. NOTHING you posted addresses the fact that different nations measure infant mortality differently.
TGT,
You really need to read better:
TaxPayer
June 25th, 2012
7:44 pm
Infant mortality rate is defined as the number of deaths of infants one year or younger per 1,000 live births. It is a critical measure because the death of a young child has a greater impact on a population’s life expectancy than does a death from disease or injury in the middle or later stages of life. In the developing world, infant mortality tends to be a result of pneumonia, diarrhea, tetanus, and congenital malformation. In the developed world, it is typically associated with low birth-weight or extremely premature births.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
June 25th, 2012
9:22 pm
getalife
June 25th, 2012
9:20 pm
Get lost racist
Aww little 2nd grader has poopy-pants. I hate all non-achievers equally, does that make me a racist?? Go ask your teacher buddy!
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
9:23 pm
“Thee feds have withdrawn agreements with arizona and they will not be answering the arizona calls to verify someone…”
BB, I think if it can be proven in court that they deliberately did so out of malice (and not simply because they had insufficient resources to enforce the laws they are sworn to enforce), then it could be judged a dereliction of duty.
independent thinker
June 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
The gangster and political hack Scalia spews out his political venom again today in two decisions whwere he spouses his activist conservative leanings
History of Scalia’s right wing activism::
1. The fourteenth amendment equal protection laws written for ex slaves allows Scalia to anoint George W. Bush as president and ignored the Supreme Court of Florida interpreting Florida laws on voting;
2. Decided strip searches of innocent Black Men arrested for misdemeanor offenses are just fine;
3. Wrote in Heller that the preamble to the second amendment is a bunch of nonsense if the NRA says so;
4.Corporations can spend unlimited money to influence elections since they are persons;
5. One hundred year old anti-corruption statute in Montana is thrown out today based on Federal decision of Supreme Court on corporate contributions because the Court knows better than the citizens of Montana that corporations have no evil motives in subverting the election process;
6. Called Obama an idiot for executive order limiting deportation of illegals who want to serve in military and get a useful education if they did not actively participate in illegal entry to US;
7. He does not believe in free press if he is the speaker and he is being tape recorded;
8. close friends with Koch Brothers
Imagine his ruling Thursday on Obacare??????????????.
Orange 12
June 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
True, The liberal media is heavily slanted in Obama’s favor.
Billybob
June 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
anyone here about obama asking for people with upcoming birthdays or upcoming weddings to ask those giving gifts to them to instead donate to obama’s campaign…..utterly pathetic and totally a leftist political move……enlightening as well…..
hay jay,
i was going to send you a gift for your birthday, do you want me to send it to obama instead?
Steve - USA ("None of the Above")
June 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
Is it just me or are JamVet’s raging against the world posts starting to sound like UnaBomber v2.0?
Somebody better monitor that dude.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
June 25th, 2012
9:25 pm
Billybob
June 25th, 2012
9:20 pm
town,
the feds have withdrawn agreements with arizona and they will not be answering the arizona calls to verify someone…..i don’t know what rush thinks about that, but that is the case…..
It’s so the O’Propoganda administration comes off as being sympathetic to illegals, placing the onus on Arizona. They don’t want to be forced to deport any illegal criminals during election year. What a spineless pu$$y. And anyone who votes for him.
Jm-pass TSPLOST peeps
June 25th, 2012
9:27 pm
Steve USA
He’s definitely unhinged
Recon 0311 2533
June 25th, 2012
9:27 pm
Okay the libs are out of control and Jay’s AWOL, so g’nite and Taps y’all.
Billybob
June 25th, 2012
9:27 pm
town,
i can’t find fault with your post……this guy was marketed by the liberal media as a moderate……people now see his radical nature in every word or action he puts forth…..even jay can’t hid the truth about this guy anymore….even though he will do his best…..
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
June 25th, 2012
9:31 pm
even jay can’t hid the truth about this guy anymore….even though he will do his best…..
Jay’s either:
a: gay
b: part of the 1 percent
c: communist
d: hates freedom
e: drank O’propogandist cool-aid
f: a professor
g: Chris Matthew naked twister partner
Don Abernethy
June 25th, 2012
9:31 pm
Bookman plays to the tune that he hopes will get him a job as press secretary for Obama.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
9:32 pm
“Is it just me or are JamVet’s raging against the world posts starting to sound like UnaBomber v2.0?”
He is, by his own admission like an excitable poodle (all bark but no bite). And he has said he like to push people’s buttons. I don’t know. He makes some good points from time to time and I have learned a few things from him. Some people just seem to have a poor sense of propriety (not that any of us have much more than a mediocre sense of it). He wanted some months back to paint me as a racist (though I married a Latina), but has declined my challenges to prove it so or admit he was lying.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
June 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
Steve – USA (”None of the Above”)
June 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
Is it just me or are JamVet’s raging against the world posts starting to sound like UnaBomber v2.0?
Somebody better monitor that dude.
I’ve never seen a post where he comes out and identifies his party affiliation. It’s always neo-con this, neo-con that, stupid, blah blah blah
JamVet
June 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
“the one percent, the war on women and ows are folly and the public doesn’t buy the leftist media false templates anymore.”
Sure and the day you speak for the “public” is the day pigs fly.
Just try to speak for yourself; it ain’t much, but it’s all you got!
bman
June 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
it’s getting a little rough in here…..