Scalia plays politician; Romney plays possum
In another sign of just how screwy things have gotten, Mitt Romney, the GOP nominee for president, steadfastly refuses to get involved in the political debate about immigration. He refuses to offer his own ideas about a national immigration strategy*, and he won’t voice an opinion on President Obama’s controversial decision not to deport illegal aliens who were brought here as young children.
But worry not: A supposedly nonpolitical Supreme Court justice, Antonin Scalia, is eager to jump into the political fray where Romney is too meek to tread. In his radical dissent to today’s ruling on the Arizona immigration law, Scalia argues that Arizona and the other 49 states have the right to exercise “what most would consider the defining characteristic of sovereignty: the power to exclude from the sovereign’s territory people who have no right to be there.”
“Even in its international relations, the federal government must live with the inconvenient fact that it is a Union of independent states, who have their own sovereign powers,” Scalia writes.
Just as remarkably, Scalia used his dissent to lambaste Obama’s decision regarding children of illegal immigrants, slyly referring to “the Executive’s unwise targeting” of available resources to combat illegal immigration.
“The husbanding of scarce enforcement resources can hardly be the justification for this, since the considerable administrative cost of conducting as many as 1.4 million background checks, and ruling on the biennial requests for dispensation that the non-enforcement program envisions, will necessarily be deducted from immigration enforcement,” Scalia complained.
Scalia plays politician; Romney plays possum.
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*Note: Here’s the official Romney response to today’s ruling:
“Today’s decision underscores the need for a president who will lead on this critical issue and work in a bipartisan fashion to pursue a national immigration strategy. President Obama has failed to provide any leadership on immigration. This represents yet another broken promise by this president. I believe that each state has the duty — and the right — to secure our borders and preserve the rule of law, particularly when the federal government has failed to meet its responsibilities. As Candidate Obama, he promised to present an immigration plan during his first year in office. But four years later, we are still waiting.”
– Jay Bookman
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Bruno
June 25th, 2012
4:28 pm
For my good friend JamVet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNRmavbTTQk
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
4:29 pm
“Siblings are another matter, though. I’ve got a dirtbag for a younger brother and you can talk smack about him all you like.”
Is that the one who actively campaigned for Palin four years ago?
Mr_B
June 25th, 2012
4:30 pm
“I’m still waiting for when Obama presented this so called plan to Congress…”
Parts of it were presented in April of2010.
After Nov. of 2010 there wasn’t any point, since Republican control the House and can freeze any action in the Senate.
Joe Hussein Mama
June 25th, 2012
4:31 pm
Darwin — “Scalia also uses his brain power to compare the health care mandate with forcing people to buy broccoli. OK – everyone uses the health care market, and everyone uses the food market. So, why can’t the government force you to buy broccoli.”
Scalia’s analogy is poorly drawn. Broccoli isn’t the *only* foodstuff available in the market.
Show me someone who doesn’t buy *any* food at all, and his argument might grow some legs.
Erwin's cat
June 25th, 2012
4:31 pm
Darwin – “Simple enough?”
and your rant relates to the constitution how?
Thomas
June 25th, 2012
4:32 pm
What, as country, do we say to the thousands of American citizens that are killed each year by illegal immigrants? “sorry, sucks for you family member but it is simply a cost of doing business”?
Joe Hussein Mama
June 25th, 2012
4:32 pm
Towncrier — “Is that the one who actively campaigned for Palin four years ago?”
I wouldn’t know; I haven’t seen him since 2006 and haven’t heard from him since 2007.
Frankly, I doubt he’s got it together enough to *vote,* let alone to actually campaign for anyone.
Mr_B
June 25th, 2012
4:32 pm
“In other news, President Obama played his 101st round of golf yesterday. Bush played 32 rounds in 8 years.”
NEWSFLASH!!!!! Obama enjoys golf more than Bush did!!!!!! Plays better basketball too.
JamVet
June 25th, 2012
4:33 pm
If we give them drivers licenses like JamVet says we’re crazy not to, how do we know they’re illegal?
Jesus on a Popsicle stick…
Nope, Ben, Clinton was not anywhere near the liar that Romney is. And the proof would be you list Bill’s and I’ll list Flip’s.
But ain’t no way in hell you’d even try.
Because, a) you don’t do research (being utterly ignorant on such matters is your forte) and b) you know you’d get crushed like a bug…
And here are just a few of the things that you desperately don’t want to know about…
First, there is Romney’s claim that the 2009 stimulus passed by Congress and signed by President Obama “didn’t work”. According to Romney, “that stimulus didn’t put more private-sector people to work.” While one can quibble over whether the stimulus went far enough, the idea that it didn’t create private-sector jobs has no relationship to reality. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the stimulus bill created more than 3m jobs – a view shared by 80% of economists polled by the Chicago Booth School of Business (only 4% disagree).
How stupid a lie is that?
Romney also likes to argue that the stimulus didn’t help private-sector job growth, but rather helped preserve government jobs. In fact, the Obama years have been witness to massive cuts in government employment. While the private sector is not necessarily “doing fine”, as Obama said in a recent White House press conference, it’s doing a heck of a lot better than the public sector.
He knows that the truth is not necessary for you to kiss his ass, though.
Romney also accused Obama of raising taxes – in reality, they’ve gone down under his presidency, and largely because of that stimulus bill that Romney loves to criticize.
Keep kissing.
Romney took credit for the success of the auto bailout – even though he wrote an op-ed for the Washington Post titled “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt”.
Still puckering up, Ben?
He’s said repeatedly that businesses in America see Obama as the “enemy”, and that under his presidency “free enterprise” and economic freedom” are at risk of disappearing. In reality, since taking office, corporate profits, industrial production and the stock market are up, while corporate bankruptcies have actually decreased.
Your lips must be tired by now.
So go ahead and share Bill’s with me.
I’ve got dozens more from your severely conservative hero!
LOL…
Joe Hussein Mama
June 25th, 2012
4:33 pm
Thomas — “What, as country, do we say to the thousands of American citizens that are killed each year by illegal immigrants?”
Statistics, please?
Butch Cassidy
June 25th, 2012
4:34 pm
Thomas – “What, as country, do we say to the thousands of American citizens that are killed each year by illegal immigrants?”
I don’t know, the same thing you say to the thousands of American citizens that are killed by legal residents?
Erwin's cat
June 25th, 2012
4:34 pm
Jam…Mitt didn’t flip..he “evolved”
Oscar
June 25th, 2012
4:34 pm
thousands of American citizens that are killed each year by illegal immigrants?
________
Where did you come up with that stat. Are crime rates higher for illegals. didn’t know that.
Recon 0311 2533
June 25th, 2012
4:34 pm
“However, to start insulting people’s families, particularly their GFs, wives or children is not acceptable.”
I agree and have experienced it myself. It came from a regular blogger on here who insulted my family. Jay should make it clear that engaging in those types of insulting remark will result in permanent removal from his blog regardless of who that blogger may be.
josef
June 25th, 2012
4:35 pm
BRUNO
YOU know what I’m talking about!
Mighty Righty
June 25th, 2012
4:35 pm
Homeland Security suspends immigration agreements with Arizona police
The Washington Times
Monday, June 25, 2012
The Obama administration said Monday it is suspending existing agreements with Arizona police over enforcement of federal immigration laws, and said it has issued a directive telling federal authorities to decline many of the calls reporting illegal immigrants that the Homeland Security Department may get from Arizona police.
Administration officials, speaking on condition they not be named, told reporters they expect to see an increase in the number of calls they get from Arizona police — but that won’t change President Obama’s decision to limit whom the government actually tries to detain and deport.
Isn’t this nice? More laws the Obamanazis refuse to enforce! We must play by their illegal rules or they will take their ball and go home. More evidence of how dangerous this administration is.
Joseph
June 25th, 2012
4:35 pm
Mr_B:
Parts of it were presented in April of2010.
After Nov. of 2010 there wasn’t any point, since Republican control the House and can freeze any action in the Senate.
So just saying it happened means it happened. Hmmm. ok… The date on the link you did produce was May 2011. How did he produce a plan in 2010 that wasn’t written until 2011. Let’s be clear I’m using your words now…
getalife
June 25th, 2012
4:35 pm
66 % Latino vote for President Obama.
25% willard.
Owned.
Mike
June 25th, 2012
4:35 pm
Romney, said “I believe that each state has the duty — and the right — to secure our borders and preserve the rule of law, particularly when the federal government has failed to meet its responsibilities”.
Yes but, only one Supreme Court justice agreed with him. This ruling will stand the test of time. Like it or not.
Romney should come up with a plan for the federal government to meet “its responsibilities”, and he should state what needs to cut from the budget, to pay for it. It is all about resource allocation, especially for tough times, and high deficits. Congress doesn’t have to wait for the next election to get it done. Please get something done.
TaxPayer
June 25th, 2012
4:36 pm
I think liberals honestly believe in their mind that if they read something on a leftwing blog or hear a foaming at the mouth pundit say it on TV it must be true…
Foaming at the mouth! That sounds so cool. Is that a show on that Fairly Unbalanced “news” channel.
Butch Cassidy
June 25th, 2012
4:36 pm
MIghty Righty – “Isn’t this nice?More laws the Obamanazis refuse to enforce!”
When are your parents coming for you?
Soothsayer
June 25th, 2012
4:37 pm
During 2 terms as President, Bush took spent all of part of 477 days at Camp David, on retreats and made 77 trips to his Crawford Ranch, in Texas, where he spent all or part of 490 days, on his Ranch.
The total number of days of vacation or retreat President Bush took, while in office over a period of 8 years was 967 days, or 32% of his total time in office, was spent on vacations or retreats.
Heck, if my math is correct, that a little over 2 1/2 years out of 8 years on vacation. Hmmmm . . .
Joseph
June 25th, 2012
4:37 pm
Mr_B:
I don’t mean to put you on the spot but Obama has never and obviously will never produce an immigration plan to Congress… He has no intention to…
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
4:38 pm
“But the cost of health care IS determined by the people using it but not paying for it. ”
So is the cost of broccoli (to a much lesser extent, obviously). I am conservative and understand and agree the rationale behind some kind of mandate. But my idea (which is not new) is that people should be able to opt out if they are willing to sign a waiver (and possibly post a bond of some sort) for all insurance but catastrophic illness (unless they post a much larger bond). But at the same time, this doesn’t mean I think the government should be supervising health care. I do not trust it for that role.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
4:38 pm
“But the cost of health care IS determined by the people using it but not paying for it. ”
So is the cost of broccoli (to a much lesser extent, obviously). I am conservative and understand and agree the rationale behind some kind of mandate. But my idea (which is not new) is that people should be able to opt out if they are willing to sign a waiver (and possibly post a bond of some sort) for all insurance but catastrophic illness (unless they post a much larger bond). But at the same time, this doesn’t mean I think the government should be supervising health care. I do not trust it for that role.
josef
June 25th, 2012
4:39 pm
“…thousands of American citizens that are killed each year by illegal immigrants?”
Add me to that list who wants to know where you get those stats…
Joseph
June 25th, 2012
4:39 pm
Soothsayer:
Bush worked while at his ranch in Crawford.. That’s what many of you libs tend to forget. Obama has no place like that to go… Who the hell would want to go to Chicago???
Butch Cassidy
June 25th, 2012
4:40 pm
Joseph – “Who the hell would want to go to Chicago???”
Carl Sandberg?
Thomas
June 25th, 2012
4:40 pm
Where did you come up with that stat. Are crime rates higher for illegals. didn’t know that.
I didn’t- used google. Why are relative crime stats important or do we say “sorry, we failed in protecting you and your family but do know that illegals commit crime at the same rate as others- completely assinine.
Obama is over
June 25th, 2012
4:41 pm
Paul 2 4:17-
The Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus was appointed by Obama. He created the “Great Green Fleet” program. This program is different from the one you mistakenly pointed out. The Dept. of Defense experimented with biofuels as a defense mechanism merely by testing Air Force equipment to make sure it was compatible in the event that supply chains were disrupted from the Middle East. Rather than create trade agreements with friendly nations like Canada and Mexico, the Obama administration has decided to mandate the purchase of biofuels. GLOBAL biofuel production is 25,000 barrels a day. The Navy uses 1.2mm gallons of marine diesel per day. Regardless of when the idea was created, it was a stupid idea then and it is a stupid idea now. Cancelling this program now would save U.S. taxpayers millions. Unfortunately, that would require the President to admiy he made a mistake. Obama is too focussed on re-election to do anything positive for all Americans, he has to concentrate his time on fund raising and pandering to special interest voting blocs.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
4:41 pm
Hmm..I keep double posting for some reason. Malware?
Soothsayer
June 25th, 2012
4:42 pm
Joseph you’re right. I don’t how I could have overlooked something like that!
Butch Cassidy
June 25th, 2012
4:43 pm
Thomas – “Why are relative crime stats important or do we say “sorry, we failed in protecting you and your family ”
How about, “we wanted to protect you, but people kept voting down the police unions”.
josef
June 25th, 2012
4:44 pm
Well, Mississippi’s coming in last again…lowest average gas prices in the US ($3.03) in Jackson…
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
4:45 pm
Let’s see if it happens in a different browser…
Joseph
June 25th, 2012
4:45 pm
Soothsayer:
Its easy to overlook when ideology trumps reality.. LOL…
Butch Cassidy
June 25th, 2012
4:45 pm
josef – “lowest average gas prices in the US ($3.03) in Jackson… ”
Damn, Obama must love Mississippi. Afterall, he lowered their gas prices first.
Joe Hussein Mama
June 25th, 2012
4:46 pm
Joseph — “Bush worked while at his ranch in Crawford.. That’s what many of you libs tend to forget.”
*All* Presidents work while they’re on vacation. However, it’s a matter of historical fact that President Bush spent a *lot* of time away from the White House; certainly more in his first term than President Obama has spent in his term so far.
“Obama has no place like that to go…”
Says you.
“Who the hell would want to go to Chicago???
I would. I love traveling around our great country. Every city and every region has something fantastic to offer.
Mighty Righty
June 25th, 2012
4:47 pm
For those who are memory challenged, here is a reminder of how the Holder no justice department works. BTW the actual video can be viewed on YOU Tube.
Who pressured Justice to drop case against voter intimidation in Philly? After screaming for 8 years about Bush “politicizing” the Justice Department, it appears that there is a clear cut case of interference in a legitimate prosecution of the New Black Panther Party for intimidating voters at a polling station in 2008 by Obama appointees.
Charges Against ‘New Black Panthers’ Dropped by Obama Justice Dept.. Charges brought against three members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense under the Bush administration have been dropped by the Obama Justice Department, FOX News has learned. The charges stemmed from an incident at a Philadelphia polling place on Election Day 2008 when three members of the party were accused of trying to threaten voters and block poll and campaign workers by the threat of force — one even brandishing what prosecutors call a deadly weapon.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
4:49 pm
Oh SNAP!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/24/top-secret-what-food-stamps-buy/
Butch Cassidy
June 25th, 2012
4:49 pm
MIghty Righty – “For those who are memory challenged, here is a reminder of how the Holder no justice department works. BTW the actual video can be viewed on YOU Tube.”
Will someone please remember to tuck Mighty Righty in and let him know that everything will be alright?
josef
June 25th, 2012
4:50 pm
Obama/Over
Be very careful what you say…Mabus is the anti Christ…if you don’t believe it, google it!
Sarah Gee
June 25th, 2012
4:51 pm
Jay got his talking points up quick…right on que. It’s convient for the progressives to have an obedient lap dog on the editorial board of the AJC.
Butch Cassidy
June 25th, 2012
4:52 pm
Sarah Gee – “It’s convient for the progressives to have an obedient lap dog on the editorial board of the AJC.”
So pitch your case for Wingfield and maybe the AJC will get you a lap dog too.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
4:52 pm
Racial profiling, it apparently is not:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/25/justices-reject-obamas-racial-profiling-worries-ar/
Paul
June 25th, 2012
4:53 pm
Obama is over
I read “The Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus was appointed by Obama” and thought “what part of “the DoD had a massive, multimillion-dollar biofuels research program before the Obama Administration came to power” doe Obama is over not understand?
What part of “the Air Force” does he not understand?
Then I kept reading and saw your assertion that Obama’s appointee’s effort is ‘different’ from everything that went before. Then I got to “The Dept. of Defense experimented with biofuels as a defense mechanism merely by testing Air Force equipment to make sure it was compatible in the event that supply chains were disrupted from the Middle East”
and I’m almost afraid to ask: you have cites of DARPA and Navy/AF agreements with industry to support this…. claim?
It is absolutely astounding to me the lengths some will go to do misrepresent fact and highlight ignorance all because they can’t stand Obama.
josef
June 25th, 2012
4:54 pm
BUTCH
“Damn, Obama must love Mississippi. Afterall, he lowered their gas prices first.”
Well, he’s half-black and so’s Mississippi!
Butch Cassidy
June 25th, 2012
4:56 pm
josef @4:54
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
4:56 pm
I got you, babe:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/06/25/Cher-Calls-For-A-Revolution-Because-Of-Racist-Republicans
Mighty Righty
June 25th, 2012
4:56 pm
http://www.cis.org/ImmigrantCrime
For those who are wondering whether immigration increases crime rates. An interesting aside is that since all illegal immigrants are in fact illegal then the crime rate amoung illegals must be 100%.
Mr_B
June 25th, 2012
4:57 pm
Joseph:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/29/AR2010042904512.html
“PARTS of it were presented in April of2010.” Seems fairly easy to understand. The White House statement endorsed an existing Senate plan and expanded it.
Not hard to find, really.
“will never produce an immigration plan to Congress… He has no intention to…”
Oh. You got a source in the White House?
Radical usally means Lefty
June 25th, 2012
4:57 pm
What exactly is “radical” about Justice Scalia’s dissent? That he didn’t agree with a middle of the road decision about an important issue? That he chastised someone (the Executive branch) that doesn’t do its job?
Oliver Wendell Holmes was in favor of sterilizing all those with mental deficiencies (”three generations of imbeciles is enough”), minorities, and was a committed eugenecist..isn’t that a wee bit more ‘radical’? In Buck vs. Bell, 8 mostly Progressive judges had no problem writing off segments of the population as undesirable. But Holmes was a Progressive, so he can’t be wrong, right?
Joe the Plutocrat
June 25th, 2012
4:58 pm
Ben, please tell me when you graduate from high school. Japan invaded US on December 7, 1941. The United States declared war on Japan, which prompted Germany (and Italy, snicker) to declare war on the United States. Be that as it may; it’s the 21st century. now, if you you argued Obama “invaded” Pakistan (bin Laden raid) and Djbouti (Horn of Africa) you might have scored some points; even if these “invasions” involve a couple hundred troops or less; and in the case of Pakistan, lonly lasted about 12 hours; but I digress.
Butch Cassidy
June 25th, 2012
4:58 pm
MIghty Righty – “since all illegal immigrants are in fact illegal then the crime rate amoung illegals must be 100%.”
Then I’m sure the Native American population will feel a whole lot safer after you leave.
Paul
June 25th, 2012
4:59 pm
Obama is over
I did a quick search to see where your phrases popped up.
You really should read publications in addition to Barron’s.
Joe Hussein Mama
June 25th, 2012
5:00 pm
Righty — “An interesting aside is that since all illegal immigrants are in fact illegal then the crime rate amoung illegals must be 100%.”
Nope. I’ve told you this before. Being an undocumented alien in the US is a *violation,* not a crime. In fact, it’s a violation on the order of driving a car without license and registration — it’s a *document* offense.
Hopefully, that will get through your skull this time and I can go back to ignoring you.
JamVet
June 25th, 2012
5:00 pm
Add me to that list who wants to know where you get those stats…
http://tinyurl.com/3989j2r
It turns out taht that meme was popular on the idiotic freerepublic website back in 2007…
Go figure…
Thomas
June 25th, 2012
5:00 pm
How about, “we wanted to protect you, but people kept voting down the police unions
Perhaps the most ignorant thing I have read that wasn’t from Cheney or Rumsfeld.
Per Butch- no one is a victim of a crime- you perpetrated the crime by voting down unions.
If it wasn’t so sad it would be funny.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
5:01 pm
“Oliver Wendell Holmes was in favor of sterilizing all those with mental deficiencies (”three generations of imbeciles is enough”), minorities, and was a committed eugenecist..isn’t that a wee bit more ‘radical’? In Buck vs. Bell, 8 mostly Progressive judges had no problem writing off segments of the population as undesirable. But Holmes was a Progressive, so he can’t be wrong, right?”
Let’s not point to facts such as these as it tends to undermine Jay’s assessment of Scalia.
Mr_B
June 25th, 2012
5:02 pm
“An interesting aside is that since all illegal immigrants are in fact illegal then the crime rate amoung illegals must be 100%.” Aside from the fact that to be present in the US with proper documentation is a civil, rather than criminal offense…..
The crime rate among any immigrant group exceeds the native population because the majority of immigrants are young single males; the same people who commit most crimes in the general population. See Italian gangs, Jewish gangs, Irish gangs, Chinese gangs, etc.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
5:03 pm
“Being an undocumented alien in the US is a *violation,* not a crime. In fact, it’s a violation on the order of driving a car without license and registration — it’s a *document* offense.”
Which, of course, is part of the problem. If I enter someone’s house without permission, it is NOT “document offense”.
josef
June 25th, 2012
5:04 pm
JOE the P
Well, to be more exact, the US has stationed troops in Djibouti at the request of the Djibouti government to help combat terrorism…
tireofit
June 25th, 2012
5:07 pm
Thomas – “What, as country, do we say to the thousands of American citizens that are killed each year by illegal immigrants?”
Ask the drunks, they kill over 10,000 people a year.
catlady
June 25th, 2012
5:08 pm
Is anyone surprised? The Rommer needs to check carefully before he “decides”; he doesn’t want to change his “thinking” on this.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
5:10 pm
“The Rommer needs to check carefully before he “decides”; he doesn’t want to change his “thinking” on this…”
Maybe he could just let it “evolve”.
Joe the Plutocrat
June 25th, 2012
5:10 pm
josef, I understand. I was playing “soft toss” with Ben. I do not believe the U.S. troops who took out bin Laden, or the troops in Djibouti, or those presently hunting Joseph Kony to be “invaders”. Of course, one might argue that the two Bush boondoggles were part of his “global war on terrorism” (even if we were not invited). But as I said; comparing US participation in WWII (we were among the last major power to enter the war) with Afghanistan and Iraq is silly. A more accurate analogy would have been for the U.S. to invade China, because Japanese troops were stationed in Manchuria on December 7, ‘41.
deegee
June 25th, 2012
5:10 pm
I am so bored with the “entering someone’s house without permission” analogy. What if someone in your house offered them a job, a place to sleep, and a future for their children? What then?
Mighty Righty
June 25th, 2012
5:15 pm
I can’t blame Obama for this. This is an outrage and should not be allowed to stand. All fair minded people need to be aware of this stupidity.
Mom given bill to clean street after son killed by illegal immigrant driving drunk
Published June 25, 2012
FoxNews.com
GREENVILLE, SC – A grieving mother told a South Carolina court she was slapped with several bills, including one to clean the street after her son was killed by a drunken driver last year.
Loretta Robinson spoke on June 19 of the emotional and financial toll her son Justin Walker’s death had on her as the driver Anna Gonzales, who is an illegal immigrant, pleaded guilty in the case.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
5:16 pm
“I am so bored with the “entering someone’s house without permission” analogy.”
Because it is irrefutable?
“What if someone in your house offered them a job, a place to sleep, and a future for their children? What then?”
It wouldn’t be the first time someone has lied or made false promises (can you say “politician”?) and wouldn’t be the last. Besides, are you trying to suggest that the illegal immigrants here are innocent, naive people who were somehow duped into thinking if they crossed a the border of a sovereign country illegally by sneaking it through tunnels, packed in a container or at night across the desert then all would be good? Please tell me you’re kidding…
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
5:18 pm
“A grieving mother told a South Carolina court she was slapped with several bills, including one to clean the street after her son was killed by a drunken driver last year.”
That is government working for you at its best.
Joe Hussein Mama
June 25th, 2012
5:20 pm
Towncrier — “Which, of course, is part of the problem. If I enter someone’s house without permission, it is NOT “document offense”.
That’s true, but this is how our government has seen fit to handle the matter. You’re certainly free, though, to press your elected representatives to change things.
I’m not saying I agree or disagree with it — just stating the facts.
pogo
June 25th, 2012
5:20 pm
Headline; “Justin Beaber collapses after concert”. It was later found that he was suffering from a severe case of lack of attention due to his incredibly shrinking fan base who happening to be growing up. And they are not being replaced.
The desperation amongst the liberals is palpable. Jay and Luckovich are in an absolute “lashing out at anything republican” frenzy. I encourage all to read The Amateur to understand what was elected in 2008. Even the black leaders in Chicago who supported him in the early days have turned on Obama. They soon found out that they were used by him and that Obama was and is only concerned about one thing and that is himself. He is not concerned with this country, its people or anybody else. He is only concerned about his legacy. At this point, he doesn’t have a legacy, he has a fiasco. Early on, he knew that he could only be elected because of his skin color and he chose to use it to his full advantage and in the course of this, he used many, many people who wanted to believe in him. He was not a competent state Senator nor a decent US Senator. Of course, I don’t expect Obama supporters to read the book because they do not want to know the truth about their messiah.
Ray
June 25th, 2012
5:20 pm
Scalia is beyond ridiculous. He needs to retire and go play cards at the country club.
Joe Hussein Mama
June 25th, 2012
5:21 pm
I’m out — all be well and drive safely.
Joe the Plutocrat
June 25th, 2012
5:22 pm
OK folks, let’s be honest. the term “illegal immigrants” is poli-speak. these people are undocumented workers. their presence in the United States is no different than the thousands of students, wannabe actors, ski bums, and other Asian, European, and African workers who call the United States home. It is very simple; as noted my many others, make it illegal to hire undocumented workers; or require employers to hire whomever they like, as long as they secure the proper (legal) “documentation” (MLB franchises do it all the time).
They BOTH suck
June 25th, 2012
5:23 pm
TC
It is all about supply and demand……. There is a demand therefore the supply will be met.
No different than the weak drug war that we have been engaging in for 40 yrs.
I can honestly say that Scout more than another who wants illegals gone has always mentioned the business owners that hire illegals and how we have failed to properly go after them.
Regardless of one’s stance on the issue, the illegals are the result not the cause. The catalyst more than anything are the employers.
Billybob
June 25th, 2012
5:23 pm
……and bookman plays liberal political hack…..enough said, see nov 7th……
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
5:23 pm
“That’s true, but this is how our government has seen fit to handle the matter. You’re certainly free, though, to press your elected representatives to change things.”
Yes, perhaps because elected officials on both sides of the isle never meant to take the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 seriously (and obviously). I suppose that will all change when an illegal immigrant they don’t deport turns out to be a terrorist who sets off a nuclear dirty bomb. I guess there will be no end to the hearings then…
Jefferson
June 25th, 2012
5:25 pm
Scalia reminds me of the cat on “One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest”
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
5:25 pm
“Regardless of one’s stance on the issue, the illegals are the result not the cause. The catalyst more than anything are the employers.”
I would tend to agree with you here, TBS.
Joe the Plutocrat
June 25th, 2012
5:25 pm
FYI, Justin Bieber is a freaking Canadian! He was “invited into this house” by the dream of becoming a pathetic pop star. He took a job from some hardworking, tax-paying American wannabe pop star.
Arthur Nielsen
June 25th, 2012
5:27 pm
“a terrorist who sets off a nuclear dirty bomb.”
Apocalypse porn.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
5:27 pm
“I can honestly say that Scout more than another who wants illegals gone has always mentioned the business owners that hire illegals and how we have failed to properly go after them.”
BTW, I don’t want them gone – I just want people to be here legally and fairly (however that come to happen). It is indisputably the right thing.
Billybob
June 25th, 2012
5:27 pm
our federal gov’t not controlling people illegally entering our country is the cause and the result tbs…..liberal politicians looking for victims and votes is also a cause of the problem, republicans are at fault as well but don’t pander for votes over the issue…..
Joe the Plutocrat
June 25th, 2012
5:27 pm
Jefferson, do you mean “I bet a nickel” Martini (aka Danny DeVito)?
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
5:28 pm
“Apocalypse porn.”
You mean like flying jets into the WTC?
pogo
June 25th, 2012
5:28 pm
Obama just loves inviting known terrorists to the Whitehouse, doesn’t he?His latest is Egyptian terrorist Hani Nour Eldin. Now why would an American president condone visits to our Capital from known terrorists? I think the man actually relates to them.
Joe the Plutocrat
June 25th, 2012
5:29 pm
did somebody set off a dirty bomb recently?
Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
June 25th, 2012
5:30 pm
My parents are housing a family that needs to save money for Surgery on the child’s deformed foot
They were invited
Goverment involvement: none
Arthur Nielsen
June 25th, 2012
5:30 pm
“You mean like flying jets into the WTC?”
The world ended that day?
josef
June 25th, 2012
5:30 pm
JOE P
Understood. Djibouti is an interesting little corner of the world. Off the radar, but they seem to making all the right moves.
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
5:31 pm
“It is very simple; as noted my many others, make it illegal to hire undocumented workers; or require employers to hire whomever they like, as long as they secure the proper (legal) “documentation” (MLB franchises do it all the time).”
Are you familiar with this piece of legislation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986
All I can say is, “what happened”?
They BOTH suck
June 25th, 2012
5:32 pm
TC @ 5:25
Thanks for the reply. I want the border tightened up and those here to receive some sort of work visa and set a date where any employer found employing those without proper credentials are fined out the a$$………….. however I doubt we will see that much
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
5:32 pm
“The world ended that day?”
Do you know what a so-called “dirty bomb” is and what its effect might be?
getalife
June 25th, 2012
5:32 pm
“did somebody set off a dirty bomb recently?”
Yeah, citizen united.
Joe the Plutocrat
June 25th, 2012
5:33 pm
Towncrier. Interesting thread. do you know how many of the 9/11 terrorists were here “illegally” vis a vis how many were here legally? AND, in the case of those here illegally; why didn’t the Bush White House demonstrate leadership in terms of immigration reform and round them up to be deported? don’t tell Soothsayer (or Charlie Sheen) I said this, but one might think the U.S. government WANTS an illegal immigrant to detonate a dirty bomb.
They BOTH suck
June 25th, 2012
5:34 pm
Billybob
All politicians pander. It is funny to even bring up pandering. Obama does it, Romney does…….. on and on and on
As for Obama attempting to shore up what was already going to be a win in terms of the Latino vote, yes that is what he was doing the other week
Towncrier
June 25th, 2012
5:34 pm
They BOTH suck @ 5:32
Buddy, I think you and I (and josef and some others here) are pretty much in agreement about the immigration problem and how to possibly solve it.
Arthur Nielsen
June 25th, 2012
5:34 pm
“Do you know what a so-called “dirty bomb” is and what its effect might be?”
The flying jets in the WTC were dirty bombs?
josef
June 25th, 2012
5:35 pm
TOWNCRIER
Like you and I were saying the other day, this is not a partisan issue. If you and I (of all people!) can find common ground, then so can the politicians. That they don’t means they just flat ain’t listening to folks like me and you…