Fathers and flags, long may they wave
I am reminded that today, June 14, is Flag Day. So, with Father’s Day right around the corner as well, I thought I’d publish the text of a commentary I did a few years ago on NPR about flags and dads to mark the Fourth of July. (The audio is available here, for those who prefer to listen):
“What we needed, Dad said, was a flagpole.
Not one of those flimsy ones that’s just stuck on the side of the house with their puny little American flag hanging from it. What we needed was a real flagpole, a flagpole tall enough to put a real American flag rippling in the breeze where it belonged, where you had to look up at the sky to see it. And we needed to put that new flagpole right there in the middle of the yard.
So one weekend in the summer of 1967, we brought out the shovels, the concrete, the gravel. Dad and a couple of his buddies dug a deep hole and in a few hours, they had planted themselves a tall flagpole. The next morning, Dad’s color guard — me and my little brother, Alan — reported for instructions:
Raise the flag every morning. Take it down every evening. Fold it in the officially prescribed manner, and never ever allow it to touch the ground. Dad, you see, was a sergeant in the Air Force and he made sure we did it right.
We Americans love our flag. We fly it everywhere from courthouses and churches to car dealerships. We pledge allegiance to it. We sing songs about it. And this year, like every year, politicians are trying to make it a crime to burn the flag.
Personally, I burned a flag or two in my time – not in protest, though. Dad would disown me if I have ever pulled anything like that. But, you see, Dad was a stickler about retiring flags that had faded or torn. And he taught us it would be the height of disrespect to just toss an old flag in the garbage.
Instead, when Old Glory grew too worn to stay in service, we would set it afire in a solemn little backyard ceremony, then dispose of the ashes. Even today, I’m offended every time I see a tattered flag still flying. That kind of desecration, done out of apathy and neglect, bugs me a lot more than flag burning as an act of protest. Flag burners understand its real power as a symbol. Whatever you think about their judgment, they care enough to express their opinion. And apathy and neglect are far greater threats to our freedom than passion.
A couple of years ago, I happened to be in the area of our old house and I drove by to see it. A lot had changed in the neighborhood. But if you can pardon the paraphrase, the visit gave proof to my eyes that our flagpole was still there. I can’t say I was surprised. Dad always built things that last.”
– Jay Bookman
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JamVet
June 14th, 2012
10:04 am
Joseph, you are a sad, strange little man. And you have my pity (hat tip Buzz Lightyear)…
They BOTH suck
June 14th, 2012
10:06 am
“The South lost and losers do not get the right to fly the flag on the same pole as the Victor! ”
While not a fan of the “Confederate Flag”, yes those who fly it have that RIGHT. You certainly have your right to your opinion in terms of what it means to you. Again I am not a fan, however those individuals do have the RIGHT to fly it.
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:06 am
Liberals are certainly not as patriotic as Conservative Americans.
Joseph just loves to wallow in his own “stupid”.
Georgia on my mind...
June 14th, 2012
10:06 am
Off topic/subject but…
Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire
Mitt Romney this week has been highlighting his opposition to Obamacare, telling voters and donors of his eagerness to see the U.S. Supreme Court strike the law down and a willingness to do the deed from the White House if the court does not.
“You know, regardless of what they do, it’s going to be up to the next president to either repeal and replace Obamacare or to replace Obamacare,” Romney told a crowd in Orlando on Tuesday.
But it’s Romney’s unabashed public opposition to one of the law’s most popular provisions – a ban on health insurance company discrimination against people with pre-existing conditions – that is once again stirring the political pot.
The former governor said this week, reiterating a position he’s articulated in the past, that only Americans who have had constant, uninterrupted insurance coverage should be guaranteed access to a health plan, regardless of any pre-existing conditions.
http://news.yahoo.com/romney-plan-pre-existing-conditions-draws-dem-fire-100132950–abc-news-politics.html
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
June 14th, 2012
10:07 am
JamVet
June 14th, 2012
10:04 am
Jam,
You said it better that I could…and more politely too.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
June 14th, 2012
10:07 am
“Joseph just loves to wallow in his own “stupid”.”
good lord, he should be all pruny from it by now …
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:08 am
good lord, he should be all pruny from it by now …
the word you seek is “fetid”.
carlosgvv
June 14th, 2012
10:09 am
The Confederate Flag is a part of our history. Ignoring it and just hoping it will go away robs todays children with a part of our shared past. This is a terrible mindset to have.
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:10 am
JamVet:
LOL…. I knew I could get you to spew a little foam this morning…..
Brosephus™
June 14th, 2012
10:12 am
Jay
Excellent post. I don’t have a flag flying at home, but I keep a flag pin on my uniform at work to remind me of where I’m from and how I got here.
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dB @ 9:57
Sometimes, I think ignoring stuff is the best policy.
Doggone/GA
June 14th, 2012
10:13 am
“Sometimes, I think ignoring stuff is the best policy”
Especially something that is clearly intended to be nothing but provocation.
Jm
June 14th, 2012
10:13 am
Savannah is a great name for a child. But I’m biased.
They BOTH suck
June 14th, 2012
10:14 am
Bro
I think you are correct. Trolls usually don’t stay too long if ignored
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:14 am
LOL…. I knew I could get you to spew a little foam this morning…..
From this statement we can conclude that Joseph is either:
A. A true believer who hates everyone who doesn’t believe what he believes, or
B. An attention-starved 8-year-old looking to get a response from the adults in the room.
Hey, Joseph, you think if we polled everyone here, the winning answer would be “C. All of the Above”?
Don't Forget
June 14th, 2012
10:15 am
The Confederate flag has different meanings to different people. To ignore those who view it differently than you do is narrow minded. And that applies to both sides. But I won’t display it because of those who are intimidated by it and I don’t want to be thought of as someone who hates. As Lewis Grizzard said (paraphrased), the confederate flag does represent the heritage of the south but the good people of the south allowed it to be used as a symbol of hate and did not speak up when that happened. And so it now bears that stain.
JamVet
June 14th, 2012
10:16 am
Normal, it is my extensive experience that attention seeking trolls like him are the very worst types to judge others patriotism.
And given the fetid version of his religion, that they go hand in hand…
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:17 am
I got a feeling come November they’ll be a lot of this happening….
“Crying Man” calls talk show: http://youtu.be/v-IXwrP_LSk via @youtube
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
June 14th, 2012
10:17 am
ByteMe – Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:14 am
Put me down for,
D. Don’t care.
Bernie
June 14th, 2012
10:19 am
carlosgvv @ 10:09 am – Maybe we should FLY the BRITISH FLAG too. it is also a part of our History as well, if one accepts your statement as being a true Patriot.
Jm
June 14th, 2012
10:20 am
Aquagirl 9:28
True. Flagpoles have been documented assaulting and ravaging both children and adults all across the country.
Whatever
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:20 am
D.Don’t care.
Vote recorded
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:21 am
Flagpoles have been documented assaulting and ravaging both children and adults all across the country.
That’s what happens when you lick it in 20 degree weather.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
June 14th, 2012
10:21 am
ByteMe – given the total lack of knowledge about how the legislative process works that was displayed yesterday, I’m given to all of the above with an emphasis on underage brat …
Brosephus™
June 14th, 2012
10:21 am
Especially something that is clearly intended to be nothing but provocation.
I’m not sold that there is enough intellect there even to divine such intentions.
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They BOTH
Why lower yourself to that level of intellect? Anybody with self respect would simply step over it and keep on truckin’.
USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout
June 14th, 2012
10:22 am
Byte – 10:21 – but it was a triple-dog dare!
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:23 am
it was a triple-dog dare!
How else to get them to do it?
You know the last sentence a redneck ever says, right?
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:23 am
Check out these left wing loons… The greatest play in baseball history…. Thank you Rick Monday for being a patriot….
http://youtu.be/vZzeEaBHUBM
Aquagirl
June 14th, 2012
10:23 am
That’s what happens when you lick it in 20 degree weather.
See Jm? Think of the children.
Doggone/GA
June 14th, 2012
10:23 am
“Maybe we should FLY the BRITISH FLAG too. it is also a part of our History as well”
And the Spanish, French, Russian and Mexican flags
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
June 14th, 2012
10:23 am
Joesph
“Liberals are certainly not as patriotic as Conservative Americans”
Nope.
and what an icredibly STUPID thing even for you to say.
consider the source
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:23 am
I’m given to all of the above
Vote recorded
Don't Forget
June 14th, 2012
10:23 am
I think you are correct. Trolls usually don’t stay too long if ignored
Nah, those attention seeking wharfs don’t give up that easily. They simply change their names over and over. It’s sociopathic in a way.
Joe Hussein Mama
June 14th, 2012
10:24 am
Joseph — “I doubt many are.”
Then you’d be mistaken.
“Liberals are certainly not as patriotic as Conservative Americans.”
And now you’re zero-for-two.
“I’m personally heading up a flag retirement ceremony tonight and I guarantee you there won’t be any liberals there…”
Hey, Joseph — on a blog, you can say many things. But that certainly doesn’t make those things true.
Bernie
June 14th, 2012
10:26 am
If the Confederate Flag was a brand of toilet paper, I would be its most loyal customer, three times a day!
Don't Forget
June 14th, 2012
10:26 am
I agree with Josef that the flag has had different meanings to different people but to me the most important is that it flies over the oldest modern democracy and it symbolizes my home.
Lord Help Us
June 14th, 2012
10:26 am
‘You know the last sentence a redneck ever says, right?’
Hey Ya’ll…Watch this!!!
(seen it happen…)
They BOTH suck
June 14th, 2012
10:26 am
DF
You could be right, however I think it is best to keep moving past their posts. It is worth a try. Any interaction surely fuels the fire. I know because I fell into the trap yesterday
Joe Hussein Mama
June 14th, 2012
10:26 am
JamVet — “Normal, it is my extensive experience that attention seeking trolls like him are the very worst types to judge others patriotism.”
Agreed. I may not agree with board regulars like 0311 and USMC, but I’ve never questioned their patriotism or dissed their service.
Jefferson
June 14th, 2012
10:28 am
The GA flag is the confederate flag.
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:28 am
ByteMe – Political thug:
I’m just proving the knee jerk liberal reaction… Instead of having a conversation about reality and the crumbling of our democracy under demoncrat rule you would rather personally insult me… Just the fact that I know you and your ilk cringe at the very thought that I will post on this blog makes me happy. It gives me complete joy to read the ridiculous with the liberal sheep that follow Jay… LOL..
Don't Forget
June 14th, 2012
10:29 am
TBS, I generally do.
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
June 14th, 2012
10:30 am
A really nice blog today from Jay. I should have read it and moved on before reading the comment section.
josef
June 14th, 2012
10:30 am
JOSEPH
You never answered my question from last night, what’s on your summer reading list?
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:30 am
(seen it happen…)
Uh huh. I saw it more when I was younger, so I’m hoping it’s me that has matured.
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:31 am
Joe Hussein Mama:
I would tell you exactly where it is but you and your ilk may come protest….
Joe Hussein Mama
June 14th, 2012
10:32 am
FWIW, I thought we should have gone back to the pre-1956 flag.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_State_of_Georgia_(1920-1956).svg
IMO, it’s a simple, elegant design, and according to some reading I’ve done, it was based on a design drawn up by a GA veteran of the Civil War.
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:32 am
Just the fact that I know you
And right there we have the disconnect moment….
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:32 am
you and your ilk
Got ilk?
Aquagirl
June 14th, 2012
10:33 am
Just the fact that I know you and your ilk cringe at the very thought that I will post on this blog makes me happy. It gives me complete joy to read the ridiculous with the liberal sheep that follow Jay… LOL..
Look, folks: there are trolls and then there are people who actually cross the line into what might be serious mental issues. While I don’t shy away from barbed exchanges on these blogs, I avoid the latter category of posters. It’s just sad.
josef
June 14th, 2012
10:33 am
STEVE
@ 10:30
I did and am glad I did. The comments? Oh, they’re just folks being folks…in a peculiar sort of way, honoring the flag and what it stands for, unfettered freedom of thought, opinion and the right to express it…
Joe Hussein Mama
June 14th, 2012
10:34 am
Joseph — “I would tell you exactly where it is but you and your ilk may come protest….”
I’d rather protest at your house, because you’re being kind of a jerk.
FWIW, I’ve *participated* in flag retirement ceremonies before, and I know what’s involved. But if you want to be a jackazz and inject politics into the thread, go right ahead. You’re just solidifying blog opinion about you and the kind of person you are.
Don't Forget
June 14th, 2012
10:34 am
josef
June 14th, 2012
10:30 am
JOSEPH
You never answered my question from last night, what’s on your summer reading list?
Probably something from the thirties in Germany. That’s how I view those who choose to blame one group of people for all a nation’s problems. There, I said it.
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:34 am
josef:
You never answered my question from last night, what’s on your summer reading list?
Right now I’m about to start reading David Limbaugh’s book “Crimes Against Liberty”..
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
June 14th, 2012
10:34 am
Jefferson
June 14th, 2012
10:28 am
Yes, except for the emblem, it is the flag of Georgia during the Confederacy.
The Stars and Bars were mainly a battle flag and its representation was put on the Southern State flags back in the ’50’s during the integration movement by the Federals.
Joe Hussein Mama
June 14th, 2012
10:35 am
Joseph — “I’m just proving the knee jerk liberal reaction… Instead of having a conversation about reality and the crumbling of our democracy under demoncrat rule you would rather personally insult me…”
We were having a conversation about it being Flag Day today before you came in here and sharted all over the thread.
Lord Help Us
June 14th, 2012
10:36 am
Joseph reminds me of a freak show named Andy that used to post here…
Full of hate, certainty and absolutes all twisted around willful ignorance and misinformation…a volatile mix…
the cat
June 14th, 2012
10:36 am
I’m going with aquagirl’s assessment.
Jefferson
June 14th, 2012
10:37 am
George Purdue, flag for votes.
josef
June 14th, 2012
10:38 am
JOSEPH
Who’s your favorite writer of fiction?
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
June 14th, 2012
10:38 am
josef – “I did and am glad I did. The comments? Oh, they’re just folks being folks…in a peculiar sort of way, honoring the flag and what it stands for, unfettered freedom of thought, opinion and the right to express it…”
I guess I don’t find the personal poop slinging as a tribute to the flag.
Your mileage may vary.
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:39 am
Aquagirl:
I understand completely… Just look at all the personal attacks leveled against me! When this is your only resort it does have the look of a serious mental issue. When I try and have a serious political dialog with folks on this blog I’m called stupid, crazy, raciest, hate monger…. I could go on and on… Its truly sad the liberal mindset….
Jm
June 14th, 2012
10:40 am
Aguagirl/byteme
Omg. (brocephus head slap) +
barking frog
June 14th, 2012
10:41 am
Wave the flag, be a patriot
of the first order but when
the bullets fly please don’t
run for the border.
stands for decibels
June 14th, 2012
10:41 am
>> Liberals are certainly not as patriotic as Conservative Americans.
> Joseph just loves to wallow in his own “stupid”.
Just for the heck of it, and since this thread is about common bonds I’m going to try to put this diplomatically, and directly, to Joseph. And yes, I’ve read the admonitions to ignore the man (if he is a grown man, I’m assuming he is.) Here goes.
Joseph, could you at least consider the possibility that what you experience in your circle of acquaintances is not necessarily representative of the entire nation? Could you think about how birds of a feather tend to small-flock together, and that there might be flag retirement ceremonies across the country where self-identifying liberals actually outnumber conservatives?
And if what you’re intimating at its core is true—that more self-identifying conservatives than liberals are in our armed forces—did you ever think about any historical reasons for that, beyond some character defect or cowardice in the former group?
Did it ever occur that America’s armed forces themselves haven’t always welcomed all Americans as equals in their ranks? Have you forgotten the trials and tribulations to racially integrate the forces in the middle of the last century, to say nothing of the decades-long debate over gays serving openly? Many want to serve their country; many, undoubtedly, have found it difficult to square that with an organization that openly discriminated in a way that was literally illegal in some states of this nation.
I don’t expect you to do a 180 on your preconceived notions about liberal patriotism; I won’t even be surprised if you snap back by informing me that “liberal patriotism” is an oxymoron. I’ve heard it all, plenty of times already, so go ahead if that is your wont.
I just ask that you consider, on this Flag Day, re-evaluating what sounds to me like an unexamined slice of your own life.
Thomas Heyward Jr.
June 14th, 2012
10:41 am
When I think of Obama/Bush’s Keeeeel list …I run that ole American flag up and look………to see who salutes.
.
No one ever does..it seems.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GBoxdee52A
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:41 am
josef:
Steven King… I’ve probably read a half dozen or so of his books but really don’t get a chance to read but a few books a year now. Mostly political books. Bill O’Reilly is defiantly my favorite author…Kids take up a lot of time… LOL…
josef
June 14th, 2012
10:41 am
STEVE
That’s why I said, “in a peculiar sort of way…”
stands for decibels
June 14th, 2012
10:43 am
beyond some character defect or cowardice in the former group?
my bad, former group in that sentence would mean “conservatives” and I was speaking to preconceived notions about liberals, of course.
getalie
June 14th, 2012
10:43 am
Love it or leave it cons.
Lord Help Us
June 14th, 2012
10:43 am
‘Bill O’Reilly is defiantly my favorite author’
So many ways to laugh at this…
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:44 am
josef: have you read Lee Child’s books?
Joe Hussein Mama
June 14th, 2012
10:44 am
Joseph — “Just look at all the personal attacks leveled against me!”
Just look at your first post in this thread.
“I’m sure yourliberal brothers won’t care to much for it though….”
You’ve done nothing but insult and bait others since you started posting to this thread. If you can’t be a polite guest, then maybe you should take a hike.
josef
June 14th, 2012
10:44 am
JOSEPH
i think King is a good writer, I just don’t care much for his motif…a matter of personal taste. Kids take up your time…your own? Kids or grandkids? How many?
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:45 am
stands for decibels:
Joseph, could you at least consider the possibility that what you experience in your circle of acquaintances is not necessarily representative of the entire nation?
Its certainly representative of the great state of Georgia….
And if what you’re intimating at its core is true—that more self-identifying conservatives than liberals are in our armed forces—did you ever think about any historical reasons for that, beyond some character defect or cowardice in the former group?
I think you know there’s more Conservatives than liberals in the armed forces. I’ve honestly never met a vet that wasn’t Conservative. Remember libs make up only 20% of the electorate according to recent pools…
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:46 am
Joe Hussein Mama:
I had no idea liberal was a bad word…..
barking frog
June 14th, 2012
10:46 am
getalie ?
the cat
June 14th, 2012
10:47 am
stands-you are nicer than I am.
I imagine joseph is taking his kid to boy scouts tonight for a flag retirement ceremony. You know-the homophobic boy scouts?? the homophobic boy scouts that are attempting to turn a generation into narrow minded jerks? the homophobic boy scouts that historically hold their little butt slap meetings in churches? I would imagine there will be a lot of church going cons at that ceremony this evening but I sure as heck hope there are some liberals there as well questioning the hate.
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:47 am
Looking like another bad month for jobs….
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jobless-claims-rise-131100810.html
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:48 am
that more self-identifying conservatives than liberals are in our armed forces—did you ever think about any historical reasons for that, beyond some character defect or cowardice in the former group?
The “stupid” just keeps on flowing.
Jm
June 14th, 2012
10:48 am
Joseph there are no serious discussions on this blog, or very rarely
stands for decibels
June 14th, 2012
10:49 am
You know-the homophobic boy scouts?
sigh. Yeah. I loved being a Scout. I hate what they’re slowly turning into, apparently.
barking frog
June 14th, 2012
10:50 am
Joseph is a snark.
Curious
June 14th, 2012
10:50 am
“Liberals are certainly not as patriotic as Conservative Americans”.
Joseph,
I’m a Democrat. Served in the Army from Nixon through Clinton. I always thought I supported the military regardless of which party was in power and consider myself patriotic. How many veterans are Liberals or Conservatives today can be argued, but I’d bet there is a mix. Was Cheney, Gingrich, etal any more patriotic than the those Liberals? There’s a lot of soldiers, dead and alive,that carried their water because they had “more important” things to do. Letting someone else serve and put it all on the line in your place is what I call unpatriotic.
In my opinion, real disrespect is those that could have served, didn’t serve, and wrap themselves in the flag. Bottom line is they didn’t care enough about the country or their countrymen to pitch in and help out. All they need to do is look in the mirror and ask themselves “Where was I when my country needed me?”
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:51 am
the cat:
I could only imagine how high your blood pressure is right now… You’re like the energizer bunny that keeps on attacking attacking and attacking personally because you simply have no logical answer for anything… LOL
josef
June 14th, 2012
10:51 am
ByteMe…
Unmentionable is a big fan of that genre and has them all. I read “The Affair” just to get a taste. I like a good sleuth read for cotton candy, but as my reading time is limited, most of these are being put on the “in retirement” shelf right now…
stands for decibels
June 14th, 2012
10:51 am
…and I should add, I know a few parents of kids in the BSA (including an Eagle Scout) who are so bleeding-heart they make me look like Ann Coulter’s illegitimate offspring.
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:52 am
Curious:
Notice I didn’t say democrat.. I said liberal.. And lets be honest there’s simply not many in our fine military….
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:53 am
A combination of the worsening debt crisis in Europe and uncertainty over whether Congress will manage to stave off the scheduled expiration of various lower tax rates at year-end, dubbed the “fiscal cliff,” is souring business and consumer confidence. Job growth has slowed in the past four months, with employers adding the fewest jobs in a year in May.
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:53 am
Jm:
I know but its is a joy to gin up Obama’s base… LOL…
stands for decibels
June 14th, 2012
10:53 am
Sad, that Joseph is reverting to what I’ve identified as the apparent Conservative Prime Directive: Piss Off Liberals.
Oh well. I tried.
Joe Hussein Mama
June 14th, 2012
10:54 am
Joseph — ” I’ve honestly never met a vet that wasn’t Conservative.”
You’re talking to several right here on this board.
“Remember libs make up only 20% of the electorate according to recent pools…”
Polls from your fevered imagination, perhaps.
“I had no idea liberal was a bad word…..”
Of course you did. You routinely use it as one, along with the word “socialist.”
Peadawg
June 14th, 2012
10:55 am
“. I said liberal.. And lets be honest there’s simply not many in our fine military….”
Got a link?
Joe Hussein Mama
June 14th, 2012
10:55 am
Joseph — “And lets be honest there’s simply not many in our fine military….”
There are many more than you think. Atheists, too.
JamVet
June 14th, 2012
10:56 am
Yep, the guy is a real work of art.
He shows up with the express purpose of taking a big steaming ____ in the blog’s living room, and they feigns surprise when everybody tells him to ____ off and die.
Also, note his puerile tactic – straight out of those 1960’s, racist, Christian, KKK tracts – of capitalizing the word White and using a lowercase b with the word black.
…Conservatives than liberals…
But he just loves insulting people, getting humiliated in a public forum in the process and then playing the victim, so go figure…
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
10:58 am
Here’s a neat poll…
http://www.gallup.com/poll/154904/Veterans-Give-Romney-Big-Lead-Obama.aspx
stands for decibels
June 14th, 2012
10:59 am
Polls from your fevered imagination, perhaps.
actually, JHM, that’s about right. Demonizing the term “Liberal” is what I’ve long thought of a an open-net goal for Republicans. Actual liberals rarely defend the term, and many consider it an inaccurate label. Or they just don’t like being labeled (so liberal of them!)
And then there was this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw
ByteMe - Political thug
June 14th, 2012
10:59 am
josef: “The Affair” was the backstory after something like 15 novels with the character. It was the second one of his that I read, so now that I know how he got started, I’m starting over at the beginning to see where each novel takes Harry. I started with Gone Tomorrow and that one just kept me rapidly moving from chapter to chapter. Starts with a woman on a NYC subway train checking off most of the points in an Israeli Army checklist for someone who is a suicide bomber. And Harry decides he should intervene….
I’ve decided I can’t wait for retirement to get to all these books I want to read. I just set aside an hour or two a night for it. Usually better than TV.
Peadawg
June 14th, 2012
10:59 am
“He shows up with the express purpose of taking a big steaming ____ in the blog’s living room, and they feigns surprise when everybody tells him to ____ off and die.”
One thing we could all do is ignore him.
But damn he’s so fun to mess with…
Joseph
June 14th, 2012
11:01 am
Joe Hussein Mama:
You have never seen me write the word socialist.. Except right then… LOL… You should be proud to be called a liberal…
Brosephus™
June 14th, 2012
11:01 am
Y’all have fun… No need to take something as beautiful as what Jay wrote and sully it with this crap.
I’m out….