Billionaire Adelson: ‘Limitless’ $$$ for Romney

From Forbes:

“Forbes has confirmed that billionaire Sheldon Adelson, along with his wife Miriam, has donated $10 million to the leading Super PAC supporting presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney -– and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. A well-placed source in the Adelson camp with direct knowledge of the casino billionaire’s thinking says that further donations will be “limitless.”

Adelson, who has built Las Vegas Sands into an global casino empire, will do “whatever it takes” to defeat Obama, this source says. And given that Adelson is worth $24.9 billion –- and told Forbes in a recent rare interview about his political giving that he had been willing to donate as much as $100 million to his initial presidential preference, Newt Gingrich –- that “limitless” description telegraphs potential nine-digit support of Romney.”

This is the world wrought by the naivete and partisanship of the Roberts court.

– Jay Bookman

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Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

June 14th, 2012
3:37 pm

So the % he donates is quite small. Rule 101 around here is the dollar amount you pay is meaningless, it’s the% that counts.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
3:38 pm

This is the world wrought by the naivete and partisanship of the Roberts court.

Partisanship?

Yep.

Naivete?

Not hardly, it was by design.

TaxPayer

June 14th, 2012
3:38 pm

So how many jobs does the job creator, Adelson, create with a peck of job creating Bush tax cuts?

TGT

June 14th, 2012
3:41 pm

This is the world wrought by the naivete and partisanship of the Roberts court.

Yeah, because otherwise there would NEVER be hundreds of millions spent to get a man elected president, right?

Corporations are not people!! (Until it’s tax time.)

Adam

June 14th, 2012
3:43 pm

Money talks, voters walk

Peter

June 14th, 2012
3:45 pm

Nice work by the 1% guy who wants LESS regulation… and yes.How many new jobs has this guy created with the Bush Tax cuts ?

So many dollars, so little profit...

June 14th, 2012
3:47 pm

Just imagine how many jobs that $10 million could have created for the state of Georgia even if they were “Minimum Wage” jobs. I am just blown away!!!!

East Lake Ira

June 14th, 2012
3:47 pm

Today’s speeches:

Romney lied. Outright lied.

Obama knocked it out of the park.

The swing voters will vote Obama once they start paying attention.

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

June 14th, 2012
3:48 pm

heck, even Bill Maher gave BO $1 Mill, is that the best this cheapskate can do?

Brosephus™

June 14th, 2012
3:50 pm

If his spending is limitless, one has to wonder what he expects in return. I doubt very seriously that he’s just giving money out of the kindness of his heart.

limitless private money + public election = the screwing of America continues unabated

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

June 14th, 2012
3:50 pm

Romney lied. Outright lied.

Oh, I’ll have to watch Rachel tonight…..

Brosephus™

June 14th, 2012
3:50 pm

If his spending is limitless, one has to wonder what he expects in return. I doubt very seriously that he’s just giving money out of the kindness of his heart.

limitless private money + public election = the screwing of America continues unabated

Help Wanted

June 14th, 2012
3:50 pm

This state has so many teenagers and college kids that are home for the summer that are looking for employment. Most parents would welcome the chance to get these kids out of the house so that they could earn a couple of bucks! $10 million would be a good investment in those young people.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
3:50 pm

Romney lied. Outright lied

I noticed he repeated the lie that Obama hasn’t negotiated any trade agreements. I believe South Korea and a few others have something to say about that.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
3:50 pm

Finn: Oh, I’ll have to watch Rachel tonight…..

Well if Ezra Klein is hosting again I’m not sure it’ll have the same oomph.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
3:51 pm

This is awesome news. Looks like people who understand the economy and business know that if O is re-elected that it means the imminent collapse of the nation. More people like Adelson need to step up to the plate. Gonna take a lot of money to counter the news media which is in O’s back pocket. Get it done and open up that checkbook some more Mr. Adelson!

Adam

June 14th, 2012
3:51 pm

Brosephus: Don’t you mean MINUS public education? As in subtract it’s cost and existence from the government entirely?

Goldie

June 14th, 2012
3:52 pm

The Supremes scr*wed America real good with Citizens United — vote Democratic in November and let’s bring back sanity to the Supreme Court before the 2016 election! :)

weetamoe

June 14th, 2012
3:52 pm

Steven Spielberg is behind the Bain Capital anti-Romney ads. Could we say he is Obama’s Leni Riefenstahl? On the other hand, he seems mild mannered and polite enough. He’s apparently not one of the people Lanny Davis meant when he said to Obama *you have some very vicious people working for you.* Or one of the Obama democrat campaign managers who claims that Corey Booker is *dead to us.*

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

June 14th, 2012
3:52 pm

“Obama knocked it out of the park”

I heard todays speech while driving.POTUS needs some new material, that speech was really stale.

I heard part of Romney’s speech. He needs to say more about what he would do and less on how the other guy sucks.

JMKO

Adam

June 14th, 2012
3:53 pm

Looks like people who understand the economy and business know that if O is re-elected that it means the imminent collapse of the nation.

OR it means that THEY won’t be able to get away with lying and legally stealing. Or so they seem to think. I kind of doubt that will actually be the case though.

Curious

June 14th, 2012
3:54 pm

The foreclosure crisis and election spending has been a welcome relief to the print and written media. That spending is creating jobs which in turn increases consumer spending resulting in even more jobs.

These two events alone will get us out of this recession.

Aquagirl

June 14th, 2012
3:54 pm

If his spending is limitless, one has to wonder what he expects in return.

He’s a pro-Israel hawk. So take a wild guess.

MLeake

June 14th, 2012
3:54 pm

Funny, I don’t hear either Jay nor his regulars vilifying George Soros. I don’t see them complaining about Anna Wintour, Sarah Jessica Parker, George Clooney, and $40k per head celebrity fundraisers for Obama.

Brosephus™

June 14th, 2012
3:54 pm

double post!!!!!

Don’t know how it happened though. :)

Adam

June 14th, 2012
3:55 pm

Steve – USA: I heard part of Romney’s speech. He needs to say more about what he would do and less on how the other guy sucks.

Pretty much.

But I am curious what new material you would suggest for the President. He’s not a comedian. Maybe he doesn’t need new material, people just need to hear it more.

BTW I still laugh at Eddie Izzard’s old shows, even though I’ve seen them a bunch. Not sure “new material” is a winning argument.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
3:55 pm

Funny, I don’t hear either Jay nor his regulars vilifying George Soros. I don’t see them complaining about Anna Wintour, Sarah Jessica Parker, George Clooney, and $40k per head celebrity fundraisers for Obama.

And the point of doing THAT would be….?

Paul

June 14th, 2012
3:56 pm

I’d read a followup analysis of the case not that long ago. Cited the back and forth between the justices and the attorneys with attorneys putting forth ‘this is what could happen’ and the majority justices, based on how they saw things then and in the past, rejecting the arguments.

Then the decision was issued, people and corporations adapted, and what was thought to not be possible became reality.

I will see if I can find it – it was a subsection in a larger article – but the point stands. Never, ever say something can’t happen.

Especially when money and power are involved.

And for those who say ’so what? We’re gonna win!” Look ahead ten years when political fortunes have changed. You’ll be wishing you’d supported reforms.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
3:56 pm

Brosephus: I found the secret. You click the submit button twice really fast and the blog god-machine won’t catch it.

Brosephus™

June 14th, 2012
3:57 pm

Adam

Nah. If I try to factor that in, we go from simple arithmetic to differential equations. Bruno’s the only other person I know here that understands DE. I was just trying to keep it simple. :)

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
3:57 pm

“If his spending is limitless, one has to wonder what he expects in return. I doubt very seriously that he’s just giving money out of the kindness of his heart.”

I would trust this guy much more than a guy who only has 10 or 20 million. The difference if you think about it is that this man doesn’t need to buy any favors to make more money. He’s already got 24 billion- more than he could ever spend. A guy who has more money than he could possibly even spend is going to be more altrustic than a guy who only has a few million.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
3:57 pm

Brosephus: Like so

Help Wanted

June 14th, 2012
3:57 pm

That spending is creating jobs which in turn increases consumer spending resulting in even more jobs.

____

Printing jobs and the adults working them will only have money to pay their mortgage and rent. Just imagine how the teenagers and college kids would spend their money.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
3:58 pm

Damn, maybe not. It works when I muscle-spasm-click though :D

Simple Truths

June 14th, 2012
3:58 pm

Jay,

The fact that this guy is so willing to spend big bucks to oust Obama is an indication of just how bad a job Obama is doing, in his view.

Verbal Kint

June 14th, 2012
3:58 pm

Oh well, Jay, tough ship.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
3:58 pm

A guy who has more money than he could possibly even spend is going to be more altrustic than a guy who only has a few million.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

*deep breath*

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!

Paul

June 14th, 2012
3:59 pm

Thulsa

“Looks like people who understand the economy and business know that if O is re-elected that it means the imminent collapse of the nation.”

Some of your opinions my be ‘out there’ but rarely do you lose yourself in such hyperbole.

Brosephus™

June 14th, 2012
3:59 pm

And for those who say ’so what? We’re gonna win!” Look ahead ten years when political fortunes have changed. You’ll be wishing you’d supported reforms.

The unintended consequences of applying short term solutions to long term problems. ;)

——————–

Adam

I must have been pretty quick with the mouse then. :)

getalife

June 14th, 2012
4:00 pm

‘If You Want To Give The Last Decade Another Try, Vote For Romney’ President Obama.

I just got this memo ben.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
4:00 pm

“But I am curious what new material you would suggest for the President. He’s not a comedian.”

I dunno bout that. Obama’s steak and martini and running out on the bill was pretty funny- though not quite in the way liberals imagined it to be funny. The man is quite the comedian.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
4:01 pm

MLeake

Have any of the people you’ve cited indicated a willingness to spend $100 million on one election?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
4:02 pm

Could we say he is Obama’s Leni Riefenstahl?

Godwin’s Law, proven yet again.

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
4:02 pm

Bugger

I have it on good word the nuclear cost overruns are due to huge regulatory uncertainties created by the NRC, due to some very poor oversight and process management by Obama’s appointees.

Obama the dimwit strikes again. :(

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:02 pm

Thulsa: I meant by trade, but yeah. He can deliver jokes pretty well. I kind of doubt he comes up with all of them on his own though.

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
4:03 pm

Good job adelson

larry

June 14th, 2012
4:04 pm

So a person worth 24 billion is supporting the canidate worth 255 million.

Im not suprised.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
4:04 pm

Paul,

The guy understands business and the economy is my view- obviously much more than Obama and I don’t think any reasonable person would disagree with that given their respective career experience in the private sector and in terms of executive experience. You don’t get to be that successful by not understanding these things well. And as I said I trust the motives of a man who already has more money than God over a man still looking to acquire more cash. When you’ve already got 24 billion you don’t have much of a financial motive left as the lower level crook who has 5 or 10 million and wants more.

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
4:06 pm

More whining from Jay.

Obama needs to call his Hollywood buddies and tell them to start donating some f’ing money.

Lowski

June 14th, 2012
4:06 pm

What’s wrong Jay? You jelly?? ;)

TaxPayer

June 14th, 2012
4:06 pm

Now wait just a cotton pickin’ imminute, I say, yes sirree.

larry

June 14th, 2012
4:06 pm

Yes, please build that nuclear plant without any stinking regulations.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
4:07 pm

Adam,

He probably literally has joke writers on top of regular speech writers to kinda work in some jokes or one liners to the crowd in a speech. They all do I suspect.

Brosephus™

June 14th, 2012
4:07 pm

The difference if you think about it is that this man doesn’t need to buy any favors to make more money. He’s already got 24 billion- more than he could ever spend. A guy who has more money than he could possibly even spend is going to be more altrustic than a guy who only has a few million.

Not necessarily. That person who you think has altruistic reasons could be positioning himself to get even more. I doubt that anybody is ever content with what they have. If he were content, he could go park himself on an island and never be heard from again. I don’t trust many people at all.

1 Timothy 6:7-11

7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.

8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

——————–

Adam

:lol:

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:07 pm

Thulsa: That’s absurd. Saying he understands business and the economy is like saying that a WW2 Vet understands modern warfare in Afghanistan against insurgents. What he understands is he’s got an ideology and he has money, and that money can help him decide who wins.

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
4:08 pm

But it’s okay for George Soros and of course the libs on the Supreme Court like Ruth Bader Ginsberg aren’t at all partisan.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
4:08 pm

I have it on good word the nuclear cost overruns are due to huge regulatory uncertainties created by the NRC…

I have it on good word that I will win the Oscar for best director.

carlosgvv

June 14th, 2012
4:09 pm

Roberts graduated first in his class at Harvard Law School. He is not naive. He has a polical agenda and knows others in the Court are more than willing to put partisanship ahead of our Constitution and leave poor blind justice weeping.

Far right “born again” Christian thinking is increasingly taking hold of the Republican electorate. Republican politicans and Justices, blinded by greed and power, are using this fact to soak themselves with as much money and power they can grab.

larry

June 14th, 2012
4:09 pm

A casino operator understands the economy and business.

Oy

getalife

June 14th, 2012
4:10 pm

Looks like the gop will spend a billion on negative ads.

Wasted billion.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:10 pm

Frankly I think Obama should start throwing some of the same accusations at Romney that are thrown at him. Like saying Romney is always looking for someone to blame or something. And do it now so Romney has to pivot to another line of attack if he doesn’t want to seem “the same” as Obama as in the old stupid line “both parties are the same.”

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:10 pm

Recon: But it’s okay for George Soros

Time for me to check Drudge…..

Anyone but Obama

June 14th, 2012
4:11 pm

Maybe he just wants ANYONE but Obama. Obama’s policies are bad for business. Ask any businessman. How many jobs has this guy created? When are people going to understand that policies good for the wealthy generally DO create jobs. Is anyone here employed by poor people or are most employed by people with money?

Paul

June 14th, 2012
4:12 pm

Adam

“But I am curious what new material you would suggest for the President. He’s not a comedian. ”

I would suggest bringing in some specifics, Perot-style.

“From the time of the election to the time I was sworn in N million people lost their jobs. N million. That’s people, families, households. The previous 8 years saw only N jobs created and in 3 months that was wiped out N times over. We had a financial crisis that threatened our very nation. I know some revisionists with short memories don’t think so, but that’s the way it was. President Bush, to his credit, jettisoned long-held ideology and moved to stabilize the markets. But losses occurred. Everyone here – didn’t your savings and your pension fund lose half their value? At least? So people lost savings, lost jobs and began losing houses. All before I was sworn in. You know, no one – not Democrats, not Republicans, no one…. knew just how bad things were, how deeply this crisis went.

“So we began taking steps.”

Then finish with words to the effect “it’s been a slow climb, but we’ve added more jobs in N months than we saw in N years under the previous administration. Most of you listening – your savings and retirement accounts have regained value. In fact, the stock market has shown the fastest recover than any time in the past N years. Corporate profits soared. Some people in the opposition will either deliberately mislead or they are woefully ignorant – you decide which, when they say I’m anti business. We have the highest after-tax corporate profits than any time in the past 80 years. Maybe my opponent’s just jealous because he never got returns like that.”

That kind of stuff, Adam. Describe conditions then, the change to now. Mention Bush only to give him credit. Point out the propaganda lies that some people have heard so often they accept them as fact. Enough detail in the comparisons to make the point, but not too much that people tune out.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:12 pm

Hmm Drudge has something interesting. They seem to think this actually will cause people to vote Romney: “Romney Campaign Bus Drives Circles Around Obama Speech Site Honking Its Horn”

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/14/romney-campaign-bus-drives-circles-around-obama-speech-site-honking-its-horn/

Speed Racer

June 14th, 2012
4:12 pm

@So many dollars, so little profit…: I’m sure that Adelson would be happy to invest millions of dollars in Georgia if they let him build a casino. Otherwise, exactly what are you proposing he do with $10 mil in Georgia to create jobs?

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
4:12 pm

So many dollars, so little profit…
June 14th, 2012
3:47 pm

Just imagine how many jobs that $10 million could have created for the state of Georgia even if they were “Minimum Wage” jobs. I am just blown away!!!!

I knows what you mean. I was thinking the same thing when George Clooney and friends had a $35,000 a plate fundraiser for Obama. Coulda fed a lotta people at shelters or helped quite a few people out with those monies.

Speed Racer

June 14th, 2012
4:12 pm

Adelson cancels out Soros maybe. Nothing to see here. Move on.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:13 pm

Paul: From the time of the election to the time I was sworn in N million people lost their jobs. N million. That’s people, families, households. The previous 8 years saw only N jobs created and in 3 month

Pretty sure he’s done that.

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
4:13 pm

Jammie kammie 4:08

That is not good word :)

Obama is screwing electricity consumers in GA

Good job Obama

larry

June 14th, 2012
4:14 pm

Is anyone here employed by poor people or are most employed by people with money?

Im employed by middle class people. If there is not a demand for my service, i have no job.

You can give my boss all the tax cuts in the world, but if there is no demand for his services, he’s out of business.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
4:14 pm

“Romney Campaign Bus Drives Circles Around Obama Speech Site Honking Its Horn”

Looks like cons can learn something from tactics of folks like the OWS people and union thugs after all.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:14 pm

Paul: Although I LOVE this line:

Maybe my opponent’s just jealous because he never got returns like that.

JohnnyReb

June 14th, 2012
4:15 pm

Cavuto just put it best. This election will come down to a person believing we should have more government or less.

Will dollars spent on ads make a difference? Some, but the majority of folks already have their maind made up and will grow tired of the campaign ads/commercials.

Bad mouthing Citizens United or its results would fair better if the Left would include an objectionable look at the huge, and I mean huge money Soros spends each year pushing Liberal causes.

N-GA

June 14th, 2012
4:15 pm

Adelson is buying Romney’s unfettered support for Israel when they attack Iran.

Any other questions?

King of Everything

June 14th, 2012
4:15 pm

In other words we shouldn’t believe the ads that Adelson paid for against Willard in the GOP primary?

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
4:15 pm

Adam: Time for me to check Drudge…..

I don’t read Drudge my self but you certainly can if you have sufficient time after blogging, reading media matters and the Huffington Post.

barking frog

June 14th, 2012
4:16 pm

Kamchak
Congratulations on your
rumored Oscar nomination
for director. Any chance the
statue will be Oscar the
blogger?

Paul

June 14th, 2012
4:16 pm

Thulsa

Nice 4:04, but it didn’t address the hyperbole of “Looks like people who understand the economy and business know that if O is re-elected that it means the imminent collapse of the nation. ”

Pres Obama’s reelected.

The nation will collapse shortly.

Imminently.

Collapse.

Puh-leeze.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:16 pm

Looks like cons can learn something from tactics of folks like the OWS people and union thugs after all.

That they don’t work?

In case you haven’t noticed, OWS is dead and unions are dying.

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
4:16 pm

” Like saying Romney is always looking for someone to blame or something.”

Bush
Tea Party
House Republicans
and now Europe

Romney’s right in that assertion. Obama has blamed everyone but himself and the Democrats. I’m not saying it is Obama and the Democrat’s fault 100% but take SOME responsibility after being in office for 3+ years.

God d*mn why do we have to choose between Obama and Romney this November. I wouldn’t piss on fire to put either one of these guys out…much less vote for them.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:17 pm

Recon: I don’t read Drudge my self but you certainly can if you have sufficient time after blogging, reading media matters and the Huffington Post.

So THAT’S what you think I’m doing when I’m not here. Gee and all this time I thought you might actually take me at my word that I sometimes have too much work to be on here, and sometimes I don’t.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
4:17 pm

Adam

“Saying he understands business and the economy is like saying that a WW2 Vet understands modern warfare in Afghanistan against insurgents. What he understands is…”

What if he spent time in a foxhole?

Got you there!!!

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
4:18 pm

I guess the honking horns distracted Obama from his teleprompter.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:18 pm

Peadawg: Obama has blamed everyone but himself and the Democrats. I’m not saying it is Obama and the Democrat’s fault 100% but take SOME responsibility after being in office for 3+ years.

What should he take responsibility for that’s actually his fault?

larry

June 14th, 2012
4:19 pm

Obama is screwing electricity consumers in GA

So Obama is the one who sponsored legislation to charge customers of Southern Co. i. e, Georgia Power to pay for the plant even before it got off the drawing board.

I know who is screwing electricity consumers in this state, and it is certainly isnt the President.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
4:19 pm

I have it on good word the nuclear cost overruns are due to huge regulatory uncertainties created by the NRC…

I have it on good word that I will pitch a perfect game in this year’s World Series.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
4:20 pm

Adam 4:13

He has, but I think sporadically. I’m speaking of nearly every time, driving the point home, making it front and center now that Romney’s giving the same stump speech so full of such imaginative memories.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:20 pm

Recon: I guess the honking horns distracted Obama from his teleprompter.

And *I* am guessing you didn’t watch the speech.

BTW, CNN and Fox both showed Romney’s speech but not Obama’s.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
4:20 pm

“Frankly I think Obama should start throwing some of the same accusations at Romney that are thrown at him.”

Exactly and Obama should make true accusations against Romney that stick.

For example he should accuse Romney of knowing a helluva lot more about the economy and business for starters. Then he should accuse Romney of having eminently more executive experience than Obama. Then he should accuse Romney of being vastly more competent for the job of potus than himself. Then he should accuse Romney as Clinton did of having a “sterling” business career- something O completely lacked. And last he should accuse Romney of having zero experience as an all important community organizer.

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
4:20 pm

Jay just FYI

If you search mitt Romney on google news, this blog post is near the top

Oddly.

Higher than the original Forbes source

Hmmmmm

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
4:21 pm

“What should he take responsibility for that’s actually his fault?”

You’d have to remove your blinders to figure that out. I can’t help with that.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:21 pm

Paul: I’m speaking of nearly every time

Well, he could do that, but Republicans keep coming out and saying he is blaming Bush if he ever references an event in the past, especially the recession.

Brosephus™

June 14th, 2012
4:21 pm

“Romney Campaign Bus Drives Circles Around Obama Speech Site Honking Its Horn”

Looks like cons can learn something from tactics of folks like the OWS people and union thugs after all.

Looks more like our country and political system is beginning to resemble Sesame Street instead of the leader of the free world. Grown people should be ashamed when caught acting like kids out in public, especially if it’s in relation to a job as important as the presidency of the US. I wonder if Romney thinks that campaigning for and being president is some big joke…

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
4:22 pm

Adam, I’m not challenging your word as I must have missed your post stating that you often have too much work to do. I must say that you always seem to be here blogging when I come on, must be timing.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 14th, 2012
4:23 pm

Doom — “For example he should accuse Romney of knowing a helluva lot more about the economy and business for starters. Then he should accuse Romney of having eminently more executive experience than Obama. Then he should accuse Romney of being vastly more competent for the job of potus than himself. Then he should accuse Romney as Clinton did of having a “sterling” business career- something O completely lacked. And last he should accuse Romney of having zero experience as an all important community organizer.”

For a salesman, you sure are pitching a lousy advertising campaign.

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
4:23 pm

Larry. Since you’re clueless

Obama appoints the head and members of the NRC

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:23 pm

Thulsa: Or he could accuse Romney of always blaming anyone but his allies in Congress for jobs bills not getting passed. Or of not understanding the average American. Or of trying to take credit for someone else’s success (auto bailout working). And on and on.

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
4:24 pm

I love watching people whine about what the other side is doing during campaign season. Anything goes as long as it’s not illegal imo.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:24 pm

Peadawg: You’d have to remove your blinders to figure that out. I can’t help with that.

You could answer the question or say you just don’t have an answer.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
4:25 pm

“Anything goes as long as it’s not illegal imo.”

No wonder people without a moral compass hate regulations.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
4:25 pm

Paul,

What you call hyperbole I call common sense. For example do you honestly believe that the average American has a clue as to how the business or the economy work. Or better yet that the average American knows more about the economy than say an enormously successful businessman like Adelson? If anyone believes that I’ll sell them my multi-million dollar beachfront condo in Omaha for a paltry 100k.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:26 pm

JHM: Doom — “For example he should accuse Romney of knowing a helluva lot more about the economy and business for starters. Then he should accuse Romney of having eminently more executive experience than Obama. Then he should accuse Romney of being vastly more competent for the job of potus than himself. Then he should accuse Romney as Clinton did of having a “sterling” business career- something O completely lacked. And last he should accuse Romney of having zero experience as an all important community organizer.”

For a salesman, you sure are pitching a lousy advertising campaign.

Oh, I know, he should talk about Soros any time he mentions campaign donation problems, or should talk about Hollywood any time he mentions supporters of Romney in a negative light. Or something. Yeah, that’ll work. He’ll surely get conservatives to vote for him if he just starts saying bad things about himself and good things about the opposition!

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
4:27 pm

“You could answer the question or say you just don’t have an answer.”

If you don’t know that the final signature on the bills that pass through the United States Congress is Obama’s…can’t help ya.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:27 pm

What you call hyperbole I call common sense.

And that, right there, is where the disconnect from reality manifests itself.

carlosgvv

June 14th, 2012
4:27 pm

“policies good for the wealthy generally do create jobs”

If the majority of the electorate are this mindless, Romney will be a shoo in.

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:28 pm

Peadawg: If you don’t know that the final signature on the bills that pass through the United States Congress is Obama’s…can’t help ya.

You could tell me which bills he has signed that he should “take responsibility for” that have caused massively negative results on the economy and jobs.

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
4:28 pm

“BTW, CNN and Fox both showed Romney’s speech but not Obama’s.”

Adam, I was upstairs in my office but the TV was on downstairs and heard Obama’s speech on Fox. I couldn’t hear much of what he was saying and I didn’t listen to Romney’s speech either.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
4:28 pm

Thulsa

Doubling down on ‘imminent collapse”?

No need to, really. It’s enough to make the case the economy will continue to struggle and Republican policies would speed the recovery.

‘cept I haven’t figured out how Republicans can do that without intervening in the market, telling entities what they can and can’t do, or picking winners and losers.

:-)

Have to make a quick store run – back in a few.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 14th, 2012
4:28 pm

WELL SHELDON you creepy looking gambling dude….

Just for that I’m sending the Obama campaign another hundred bucks.

If it is truly the thought that counts in gift giving, Sheldon will
wake up tomorrow with a great big boil on his butt.

Cause that’s what I’m thinking….

larry

June 14th, 2012
4:28 pm

Jm, you want a nuclear plant built without regulatory oversight. And you want it paid for even before the blueprints get approved.

And Im clueless?

Blame Obama this, blame Obama that.

Didnt Joe Scarbourgh get on to you guys enough yesterday?

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
4:28 pm

“No wonder people without a moral compass hate regulations.”

Excuse me?

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:29 pm

Recon: OK, CNN didn’t show Obama’s. I just assumed Fox did the same, and someone in a chat room said that. I didn’t bother to check on Fox, since I didn’t want to potentially see whatever else they were running instead.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
4:29 pm

Adam
June 14th, 2012
4:07 pm

Thulsa: That’s absurd. Saying he understands business and the economy is like saying that a WW2 Vet understands modern warfare in Afghanistan against insurgents.

I hear ya Adam. So a guy who is worth a 24 billion dollar fortune because of his accomplishments in the business world doesn’t understand business anymore than a WW2 vet understands modern warfare in Afgh against insurgents. As a matter of fact its just plain absurd that a man who is worth 24 billion due to his business accomplishments understands business. Absurd I say!!!!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Adam

June 14th, 2012
4:30 pm

Out for the day, see you all later!

barking frog

June 14th, 2012
4:30 pm

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Clara_County_v._Southern_Pacific_Railroad_Company

In 1886 the SCOTUS
held that the railroad
corporations are persons
with the intent of the
fourteenth amendment
to the constitution

Oblama

June 14th, 2012
4:31 pm

Jay – which billionaires are funding your man Obama? Soros is #1. Name a few more for me. You pretend Obama doesn’t have his hand out to special interests but that’s not true. He’s bought and paid for in advance.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
4:31 pm

Excuse me?

Kinda late for that, Seabiscuit.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
4:32 pm

“This election will come down to a person believing we should have more government or less.”

Is more military spending included in the more or less government?

By the way, do you know that Romney has already said he is not going to do ANY drastic cutting with the economy like it is?

Me thinks he has a little Keynesian (no not Kenyan) in him, but he is hoping that you don’t notice

larry

June 14th, 2012
4:32 pm

I have it on good word that I will pitch a perfect game in this year’s World Series.

The Braves would like to have a good word with you!

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
4:33 pm

Paul,

Under this president if he is re-elected we will be hurtling towards I’m guessing 20-21 trillion in debt by the end of his term. How is that not headed towards imminent collapse? And as you’ve seen the economy is scary weak and another recession is possibly looming. And that’s before the enormous cost of Obamacare if its not struck down.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
4:34 pm

Famous last words- Its absurd to think a businessman worth 24 billion understands anything about business.

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
4:34 pm

4:31

Oh, when the trolls go marching in
Oh, when the trolls go marching in

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
4:36 pm

SOROS, et al

HOLLYWOOD

THE PERKS OF THE PRESIDENCY (schedule a sidebar trip to a school so the taxpayers pay for the huge fundraiser) !

Oh no...

June 14th, 2012
4:37 pm

…romney may match obama’s fundraising. poor old mcain was outspent 5-1 or something like that. not that it mattered in his case.

That Black Guy

June 14th, 2012
4:38 pm

TaxPayer

June 14th, 2012
3:38 pm
So how many jobs does the job creator, Adelson, create with a peck of job creating Bush tax cuts?
_____________________________________________________

not a direct answer to your question, but The Sands employ about 40,000 people.

and Adelson is a college drop out (City College of NY)

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
4:38 pm

TD

With Romney’s statement that no drastic spending cuts will be implemented while we have a stagnant economy and Ryan’s budget that was smoke and mirrors, do you think that we are going to get much better?

I can only go by Romney’s words and Ryan’s plan.

Spending needs to go down, I do NOT disagree, but you are in for a surprise if Romney and Ryan keep the same course……..

We can argue all day about Obama, and you would have some goods points, but Republican leaders are not offering exactly what many right leaning bloggers on this blog seem to think that are offering.

WOW……. what a run on sentence…….

:-)

Joe Hussein Mama

June 14th, 2012
4:39 pm

Doom — “So a guy who is worth a 24 billion dollar fortune because of his accomplishments in the business world doesn’t understand business”

The guy’s a casino baron. It’s not like his company builds container ships or produces breakfast cereal or house paint or some other kind of consumable or durable good.

Some of our posters here — on both sides — diss pro athletes and Hollywood actors for not actually *producing* anything for the economy. By that standard, Adelson doesn’t either, no matter how much he happens to be worth.

FWIW, I think Larry Ellison’s a d*ck, but at least his company *produces* something.

In the Middle

June 14th, 2012
4:39 pm

Brosephus @4:07pm….That’s why I’m your biggest fan, sir!! When the ego is in play, those who already have money consider it a challenge to acquire more money!

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
4:39 pm

It appears that Holder blinked and will turn over all Fast and Furious emails to Issa. I wonder if he’ll blink on a special prosecutor to investigate military leaks potentially coming from the White House.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
4:40 pm

“(schedule a sidebar trip to a school so the taxpayers pay for the huge fundraiser) !”

Bush did the same thing once when he came to a MLK memorial service then on to a fundraiser………

Let me guess, you personally RAISED HELL about it

HA

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
4:41 pm

Scout
Me I didn’t say a word about it, but logged it in my memory bank for occasions just like this

:-)

Michael

June 14th, 2012
4:41 pm

In Wisconsin Walker spent 88% of the money to get 53% of the vote.
Since Obama is a much better speaker than Romney, I think Romney will need and advantage like that to offset his problems connecting with people. While it looks like he’ll have a lead, I don’t think it will be 88-12.
Also, the noise at Obama speeches reminds me of Nixon. Except Nixon tried to be a little more clever and hide his involvement. I think Romney’s campaign team may be out of control. He probably has a couple young Roger Ailes in there. Romney may think these are pranks, but they tend to lead to bigger trouble, as Nixon found out.

That Black Guy

June 14th, 2012
4:41 pm

limitless private money + public election = the screwing of America continues unabated

that statement was so nice, he said it twice. :lol:

Oh no...

June 14th, 2012
4:42 pm

a lot of people would say services (in addition to goods) are a part of the business world.

Martin Williams

June 14th, 2012
4:42 pm

More whinning from Jay, are you stupid? Did any of you listen to Jessie Ventura former governor of Minesota to what he said about the Dems and the GOP parties. He said the Dems are the Crips and the GOP, the Bloods. He said both parties are like a gang fighting for their territories. He also stated that, both parties have sold out to the rich, wall street folks, and lobbyists for the past 100 years. Remember, you can still win the popular vote for presidency and still loose the so called general election. ‘The Electorial College’. Who are these people? It must be people like billionaire Sheldon Weldon of Nevada. Look at who controls the GOP idealogy, a guy named Grover Norquist hope the last is spelled correctly. He commands them including Mitt Romney to sign ‘A No Tax’ pledge. How stupid can you be and you want to be president of this country. Mr. Romney cannot even make up his mind on tax or no tax. I have this great idea, the nation should just get rid of all taxations and see what happens. Call it donations what ever you can afford to the national and local governments. Imagine with over 270 military installations to support. WAKE UP AMERICA……………Tea Party folks be realistic and start a ligit new party and not be a soragate party to the senseless GOP fools. Remember, George W Bush understand business too and was still re-elected after a big expensive lie and shame to all of us.

Aquagirl

June 14th, 2012
4:42 pm

Its absurd to think a businessman worth 24 billion understands anything about business.

Sure he does. Since he made most of his money in Vegas. He understands the evil gub’mint should construct things like the Hoover dam so he can build stuff in the desert and then whine about OMG socializm.

He also understands vast numbers of Republican voters are too stupid to understand the irony of the situation.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
4:43 pm

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
4:34 pm

4:31

Oh, when the trolls go marching in
Oh, when the trolls go marching in

You’d have to remove your blinders to figure that out. I can’t help with that.

straitroad

June 14th, 2012
4:43 pm

Is your problem with Adelson the amount of money he’s spending or the fact that he’s not spending it on your candidate?

barking frog

June 14th, 2012
4:44 pm

Jay
the Murfeesboro Mosque
though built has no
occupancy permit and may
not be used for Ramadan.
the muslims fight on for
religious freedom without
you.

Steve Atl

June 14th, 2012
4:45 pm

Cry me a river Jay…getting a dose of the Democratic medicine (Soros, Clooney, Bil Maher).

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
4:46 pm

TBG @ 4:41

That was funny. What’s up man? Hope the week is going well for you.

I do have to agree with Bro, this people are not donating this kind of money just because they love “America”….

That goes for all sides. Ds, Rs and whomevers

Joe Hussein Mama

June 14th, 2012
4:46 pm

Recon — “I wonder if he’ll blink on a special prosecutor to investigate military leaks potentially coming from the White House.”

I doubt it, as he didn’t bother to look for the source of leaks from the Bush White House.

I take a very dim view of intel leaks from people in authority, but regrettably, the Washington mindset seems to be that both sides will do it for political gain and very few people ever seem to pay a price for it.

Jefferson

June 14th, 2012
4:47 pm

Easy money, thats all — easy come easy go. These boys are out of touch with working Americans.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 14th, 2012
4:47 pm

Aquagirl — “and then whine about OMG socializm.”

That’s ZOMG SOSHULIZUM. Please use only the Party-Approved Meme (TM). Thank you.

:D

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
4:48 pm

No doubt Obama is a very good wordsmith but he has two problems in this campaign. His first problem became quite evident back in September of last year and has carried on to now. He has tried several different messages and none have taken hold with the electorate. Secondly, glibness won’t carry the day for him when the presidential debates take place. Romney will rip him up.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
4:49 pm

JHM @ 4:46

I have to agree. Both sides will do whatever for political gain.

We can just look back at the last 30 yrs to see that every WH is GUILTY to some degree or another

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
4:50 pm

“Romney will rip him up.”

Maybe, maybe not. The Newt backers on here kept saying that Newt would do the same to Obama, yet couldn’t even see he wasn’t wooing his own party

Bruno, are you out there

:-)

Jefferson

June 14th, 2012
4:50 pm

Running a business is the worse background for a President to come from.

josef

June 14th, 2012
4:51 pm

When worth is measured in tens of billions, a hundred million is chump change. This whole spending thing has gotten so out of hand, what is there left to say? However, it goes with the territory and so long as both “sides” are playing it, it looks like it’s all a matter of how many of the 1% they can lure into their webs of deceit..,

And WEETAMOE

Calling Spielberg Obama’s Leni Riefenstahl is going over the line.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
4:51 pm

Joe Mama,

I see that you are downplaying Adelson’s success with the statements that he doesn’t produce anything or that he’s just a casino owner. Well he actually does produce something- a pleasurable gaming and hotel experience that apparently a lot of people enjoy. And Vegas is pretty competitive with quite a few casinos. Attorneys, insurance agents, heating and air service people, landscapers, retail sales clerks, IT people, there’s a lot of people that don’t “produce” anything tangible. They do however provide a service or important advice or an enjoyable experience. Disney’s amusement park doesn’t produce any tangible goods other than the concessions but people sure as hell love it.

Whatever you or I or anyone else thinks of the man he is enormously successful. And that’s saying something whether you start a company that sells mop handles or a gaming company or whatever. And I don’t think his business acumen or knowledge of the economy can be discounted given that success.

Jefferson

June 14th, 2012
4:52 pm

The dude is a uber rich crook bribing another crook.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 14th, 2012
4:53 pm

straitroad — “Is your problem with Adelson the amount of money he’s spending or the fact that he’s not spending it on your candidate?”

I haven’t previously expressed any upset with Mr. Adelson. I merely pointed out to Doom that Adelson’s ‘business acumen’ is mostly based around getting tourists to play blackjack and slots, which is shooting fish in a barrel. Throw up a hotel and put in a couple of buffets, and you’re in business.

FWIW, my personal view is that either corporations and groups should be completely and utterly PROHIBITED from all cost-based political activity and spending (as they are not persons and therefore have no Constitutional First Amendment rights), or that they should be constrained to the same limits as individuals.

However, I would impose a soft-money donation limit equal to the hard-money donation limit per election cycle. But my preference would be to prohibit all corporations and groups from ANY political activity or spending entirely. Corporations and groups could certainly mount protests, distribute signs, buttons, shirts, etc., but IMO should not be permitted to access advertising or promotions of any sort.

My bottom line — if you don’t have the right to vote, then you shouldn’t have the right to engage in any political activity whatsoever.

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
4:53 pm

4:43 pm

Keep trollin’ trollin’ trollin’

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
4:53 pm

Jefferson
June 14th, 2012
4:50 pm

Running a business is the worse background for a President to come from.

Yes. Of course. Community organizing is soooo much more relevant to the job of being president.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
4:55 pm

1) To the American electorate: “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”

2) Please pass to Vladimir: “After the election I’ll have more flexibility.”

3) To the American people: “The private sector is doing just fine.”

BINGO !

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
4:56 pm

Heard this recently regarding voter fraud:

“If elections cannot be honest there is ‘no consent of the governed’ “.

And that my friends is fraught with peril.

saywhat?

June 14th, 2012
4:56 pm

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
4:39 pm
“It appears that Holder blinked and will turn over all Fast and Furious emails to Issa. I wonder if he’ll blink on a special prosecutor to investigate military leaks potentially coming from the White House.”
__________________________________________________________________________________
What? Why doesn’t he just delete the e-mails like Bush, Cheney, Rove and company? Boy, this Whitehouse sucks at the whole crooked politics thing.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 14th, 2012
4:56 pm

Doom — “Attorneys, insurance agents, heating and air service people, landscapers, retail sales clerks, IT people, there’s a lot of people that don’t “produce” anything tangible. They do however provide a service or important advice or an enjoyable experience. ”

So do wh*res, but I’m not going to look to them (or indeed any of the people you listed) for advice on who I should vote for.

Lord Help Us

June 14th, 2012
4:57 pm

4) I had some biscuits and cheesy grits this mornin’

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
4:57 pm

saywhat?

“The White House hasn’t had this much leakin’ since Billy Carter watered the Rose Garden !”

Rush Limbaugh

getalife

June 14th, 2012
4:57 pm

willard will finally be on a show not on fox.

Watch him blow it.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
4:58 pm

JHM @ 4:56

Now that is funny

TD…….. stop for a minute and pay homage

:-)

St Simons - we're on Island time mon

June 14th, 2012
4:58 pm

“If you want to give the last decade another try, vote for Rmoney”

Bam. over. soooo ovah.

Lord Help Us

June 14th, 2012
4:59 pm

‘Heard this recently regarding voter fraud’

Well then, show me an election that turned due to voter fraud.

I would sincerely like to see if such evidence exists. Cause otherwise, it looks like a red herring…

Bud Wiser

June 14th, 2012
4:59 pm

Money is not going to get Romney elected in November.

It is the complete and total catastrophe that Obama and his policies and spending and blaming and taking no responsibility for anything (except what Seal Team 6 did) that will see he is a one-termer.

He has no one to blame but himself.

Or Valerie Jarrett.

Or Vann Jones.

Or big-mouth Biden.

Or the rich.

Or SEIU.

Or the UAW.

Or the Europeans.

Or the Republicans.

Or Rev Wright.

Or Bill Ayers.

Or Eric Holder.

Or David Axelrod.

Or the Republicans. (did I already say that?)

Get the picture?

Personally, if I were him, I’d blame choosing msnbc as my main media mouthpiece.

No one watches.

President Romney, coming to a voting booth near you in November 2012.

Erwin's cat

June 14th, 2012
5:00 pm

Why are so many concerned with how Adelson spends his money and not with how DC spends ours?

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:00 pm

saywhat?

Just say the emails from the time frames requested were deleted as you say……

It worked for Bush

Anyone want to disagree?

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:00 pm

“Since he made most of his money in Vegas. He understands the evil gub’mint should construct things like the Hoover dam so he can build stuff in the desert and then whine about OMG socializm”

Aquagirl,

Another history fail dear? The Hoover dam was built in the early 30s- long before any of these casinos so its not as if he got the govt to subsidize him. Also you need some help with your basic understanding of how things work. You see Adelson’s companies and his employees through federal, state, and local taxes have probably paid in the billions in various taxes. Somehow or another you left that out of the equation. No surprise there ma’am.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:02 pm

“Why are so many concerned with how Adelson spends his money and not with how DC spends ours?”

Good Lord. That is funny on so many levels. Telling too.

josef

June 14th, 2012
5:03 pm

So, now it’s degenerated into a one-upmanship of who has more zillionairs behind them? Seriously, does no one see the disconnect here?

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:04 pm

Lord Help Us & Scout

Look up Brian Darling of the HEritage Foundation

He is a huge voter fraud advocate….. He went on tv and couldn’t name ONE case

hahahahahah

Appearing on MSNBC on Monday morning, Heritage Foundation senior fellow Brian Darling tried to advocate on behalf of Republicans’ efforts in several to purge allegedly fraudulent voters from the rolls ahead of the 2012 presidential election.

However, under questioning Darling was unable to cite a single verified instance of actual voter fraud, leading host Chuck Todd to declare that he was “actually proving” Democrats’ contention that the Republican Party’s actions are unnecessary.

“Where is this voter fraud?” Todd asked. “I mean, it’s not this giant…”

“We’ve had recent examples,” Darling said. “…We just had a Michigan Congressman resign… not run for reelection, because… his campaign gathered signatures that couldn’t be validated.”

Todd pointed out that petition gathering is much different from actually voting in a public election. “I mean, that’s a different law there,” he said.

“Yeah, but it’s very hard to catch voter fraud,” Darling replied. “Look at what James O’Keefe did. He walked into D.C., he didn’t have any ID…”

“Did he vote?” Todd asked.

“No, he didn’t vote,” Darling responded. “He didn’t vote, but he asked for a ballot and they were gonna give it to him.”

“Right, but you’re actually proving the point here,” Todd said. “That the fraud didn’t take place because they prevented it.”

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:04 pm

josef

I do. It is BS on both sides and I have been saying for sometime now

getalife

June 14th, 2012
5:06 pm

Too bad he did not build a new casino for jobs with that donation.

Talk about waste.

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

June 14th, 2012
5:06 pm

“Why are so many concerned with how Adelson spends his money and not with how DC spends ours”

Because how Adelson spends his money might have a BIG effect on how DC spends ours – if he’s successful in gettiing Romney elected?

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

June 14th, 2012
5:07 pm

“So, now it’s degenerated into a one-upmanship of who has more zillionairs behind them? Seriously, does no one see the disconnect here?”

I think the problems is that some of us here can see only too well the connect.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:08 pm

“So do wh*res, but I’m not going to look to them (or indeed any of the people you listed) for advice on who I should vote for.”

Great one liner! But I don’t think anyone is asking you to listen to their advice as to who to vote for. And frankly it aint none of your damn business if Adelson wants to give 10 million or “unlimited” amounts.

barking frog

June 14th, 2012
5:09 pm

With all his billions Adelson
only gets one vote and his
corporation none.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:10 pm

I Call “Em Like I See “Em”

Headline (ABC): “White House Forgets to Pay Father’s Day Lunch Tab”

The above is the kind goofy headline that should not have ever been printed. For one thing, presidents don’t carry cash around ……….. they never need it. Some staffer forgot to pick that up
on his behalf.

BIG DEAL !

Joe Hussein Mama

June 14th, 2012
5:10 pm

Doom — “And frankly it aint none of your damn business if Adelson wants to give 10 million or “unlimited” amounts.”

Actually, yes it is. It’s absolutely my business as an American how elections are run.

Veteran Observer

June 14th, 2012
5:10 pm

So What if Mr Adelson exercises his right to contribute to the candidate of his choice! The people need to remember that in the last election, Mr Obama closed his books and the Arabs and the Chinese bought his election for him! His campaign has never filed disclosures because he opted out of the public funding program as he had promised Senator McCain! I will be writing a check to Governor Romney’s campaign as we have seen what a disaster electing an inexperienced community organizer to our country’s highest office was! My entire family and friends will be voting for HOPE and CHANGE in November! Yes we can! By the way saw a great bumper sticker which said “Obama, Jimmy Carter’s second term!”

Erwin's cat

June 14th, 2012
5:10 pm

Doggone as pointed out a few days ago..the President only signs the checks, he doesn’t fill in the “To” section…

Just Saying..

June 14th, 2012
5:10 pm

Steve – USA (I support “None Of The Above”)
June 14th, 2012
3:37 pm: “So the % he donates is quite small. Rule 101 around here is the dollar amount you pay is meaningless, it’s the% that counts.”

Strain at nats, much?

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

June 14th, 2012
5:11 pm

“Doggone as pointed out a few days ago..the President only signs the checks, he doesn’t fill in the “To” section”

He has the power of veto too. And if you think backroom dealing doesn’t go on you’re living in a fantasy world.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:11 pm

They both suck,

I have to admit Joe’s response was pretty funny. But in the end his whining and Jay’s whining and anyone else whining about the money that Adelson or anyone else spends is just that- whining. Boo hoo for them.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
5:11 pm

Peadawg

““No wonder people without a moral compass hate regulations.”

Excuse me?”

You must have missed where I led with your quote:

““Anything goes as long as it’s not illegal imo.”

josef

June 14th, 2012
5:12 pm

Is either party proposing a campaign finance reform plank?

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:12 pm

“Mr Obama closed his books and the Arabs and the Chinese bought his election for him!”

I’m sure you can back that up in seconds

Let Google be your guide to produce unbiased factual info

hahahahhaha

and the $hits keep coming

Erwin's cat

June 14th, 2012
5:12 pm

Back room dealings?…like the corn husker kick back?

getalife

June 14th, 2012
5:13 pm

“And frankly it aint none of your damn business if Adelson wants to give 10 million or “unlimited” amounts.”

Bow down doomy.

saywhat?

June 14th, 2012
5:13 pm

“Community organizing is soooo much more relevant to the job of being president.”
______________________________________________________________________

Lets explore that option instead of dismissing it out of hand in a knee jerk conservative fashion ( http://psp.sagepub.com/content/38/6/808 ).

What does “community organizing” entail? 1) Identifying perceived problems in a community by listening to the members of the community. Oooooh! I would hate for a President to listen to the majority of U.S citizens. Just let a few billionaires tell you what is needed. 2) Work with the community to identify possible solutions to the problems. Horrible! Better just to suggest more tax cuts for the rich and forget about it, right? 3) Assist the community to identify organizational, financial, political, and manpower resources to implement the desired solutions. But, but, but, that might cause the few and powerful to have upset tummies at the thought they won’t be able to so easily exploit others less fortunate than themselves for financial gain!

Hmmm, maybe having a community organizer as President isn’t so bad.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:13 pm

They BOTH Suck:

“The Supreme Court answered this question in 2008 when it upheld Indiana’s voter ID law. “Flagrant examples of such fraud … have been documented throughout this Nation’s history by respected historians and journalists,” the court said, “[and] not only is the risk of voter fraud real but that it could affect the outcome of a close election.”

http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/is-voter-fraud-a-real-problem/voter-fraud-is-a-proven-election-manipulation-tactic

Just Google it ………. it’s all over the map !

Paul

June 14th, 2012
5:14 pm

Oblama 4:31

“which billionaires are funding your man Obama? Soros is #1.”

Same question to you as to the person who raised the same point earlier:

Has Soros, or any Democrat, said they’d donate anywhere near to $100 million to defeat Romney?

saywhat?

June 14th, 2012
5:14 pm

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:11 pm
They both suck,

I have to admit Joe’s response was pretty funny. But in the end his whining and Jay’s whining and anyone else whining about the money that Adelson or anyone else spends is just that- whining. Boo hoo for them.
__________________________________________________
And as proven on every single page of this blog, Thulsa KNOWS whining.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 14th, 2012
5:14 pm

V. Observer — “So What if Mr Adelson exercises his right to contribute to the candidate of his choice! The people need to remember that in the last election, Mr Obama closed his books and the Arabs and the Chinese bought his election for him! His campaign has never filed disclosures because he opted out of the public funding program as he had promised Senator McCain!”

And this is exactly why you should be in the same boat with me on this.

Ban groups and corporations from all political activity and contributions.

Place a HARD limit (let’s say $2,500) on both hard and soft money that individuals can contribute per election cycle (2 years).

Bring elections back to what they’re supposed to be about; candidates persading the voting public and not candidates chasing money and producing slick ads.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:15 pm

TD

The law is the law. Anyone can contribute what they want. With that said, I don’t care if it is Soros, Koch Bros. , trial lawyers etc……. These people are not giving all that money for the love of the USA.

Good for them, but I do not personally think it is a positive thing for America

I’ve called out Obama numerous times about being a hypocrite on Super Pacs. Asked Jay to write a column. He has given me some comments, but hasn’t felt that it was worthy of a column

Jefferson

June 14th, 2012
5:16 pm

You can’t fire congress or judges and just have your way like CEOs are accuston to doing. Gov’t is not like business and to think it is — is fatal.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:16 pm

“Actually, yes it is. It’s absolutely my business as an American how elections are run”

Rejected. I’ll repeat it again so that even you can understand. As long as its legal and the appropriate 501c filings or whatever paperwork and compliance is maintained its none of your damn business how much the man contributes. He can contribute whatever the hell he wants to as long as its compliant with the law. And there aint a damn thing you can do about it- cept whine. And we know how good you guys are at that.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 14th, 2012
5:16 pm

Doom — “But in the end his whining and Jay’s whining and anyone else whining about the money that Adelson or anyone else spends is just that- whining. Boo hoo for them.”

As usual, your reading comprehension skills are teh FAIL.

I’m opposed to ALL groups and corporations making political contributions. That would include unions, Doom.

I’m also opposed to ALL wealthy people making outsized political contributions. That would include George Soros and the Hollywood elites with their $40K a plate fundraisers.

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
5:16 pm

I think we can rule out Adelson giving the money to buy influence

Cause $5 million woulda done that

Pop! There goes that liberal theory

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
5:17 pm

I think Governor Rick Scott made a good point that given the close 2000 election where the margin was so close that when you find fraudulent ballots in the several thousands from deceased people and illegals the potential for fraud which could turn an election has a high potential. Regardless, one fraudulent vote negates one vote cast by a legal voter and that can’t be tolerated.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:17 pm

“BERKELEY (CBS SF) – After a lengthy debate, the Berkeley City Council voted 6-3 early Wednesday morning in favor of putting a measure on the November ballot that would prohibit sitting on sidewalks near businesses during daytime hours.”

Berkeley? BERKELEY? B E R K E L E Y ?

Oh the horror !! Is Berkeley going conservative ???

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:17 pm

Scout

And if you google it, you will see that Ds and Rs have both been investigated, indicted and convicted for such matters when it was deemed that a law was broke.

Many on the right love to portray it has a left wing consipriacty, yet can’t seem to explain the convictions of Rs for conspiring to do the same.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:18 pm

P.S. Where’s the ACLU ? That cannot be allowed to stand !!!

Pat

June 14th, 2012
5:18 pm

It is interesting that most of Obama’s money comes from small donors while hardly any of Romney’s does. What does that say about his real “support”.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
5:18 pm

Thulsa 4:31

Still haven’t seen Romney specifically address what he’ll do to eliminate the deficit. So far it’s all been ‘blame Obama.”

And I really don’t see it when he’ll tack on another half a trillion for defense in his first term.

BTW – pulled up to the store, two cop cars, guy on the ground in cuffs, sitting under a crepe myrtle. Seems Wonder Boy went walking into the store with a handgun sticking out of his back pocket. Some people missed the ‘brains” part when they were headed down the assembly line -

getalife

June 14th, 2012
5:18 pm

josef,

No, like greenspan thought the banks could police themselves, congress thinks that too.

You would get crushed by the billionaires and the chamber of commerce.

They can’t police themselves so that stupid idea needs to die.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:18 pm

“conspiracy……….”

And can you produce an election being turned due to voter fraud?

TaxPayer

June 14th, 2012
5:18 pm

I was kinda hoping that Adelson would go ahead and finance Newt’s moonbase and head on up there with him to lay claim to some really cheap acreage. They could be co-supreme rulers over their own little world.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
5:19 pm

By the way saw a great bumper sticker which said “Obama, Jimmy Carter’s second term!” “Vote Republican: It’s Easier Than Thinking!

Joe Hussein Mama

June 14th, 2012
5:19 pm

Doom — “Rejected.”

Denied.

“I’ll repeat it again so that even you can understand. As long as its legal and the appropriate 501c”

No, I’ll repeat it again so that even YOU can understand. I’m expressing my opinion on how I think it *should* work. If you don’t like my opinion, too bad. You’re entitled to your own opinion, and so am I. Regrettably, you sometimes seem to forget that everyone doesn’t agree with you.

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
5:19 pm

Doomy 5:16

Hammer drop

saywhat?

June 14th, 2012
5:19 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
4:57 pm
saywhat?

“The White House hasn’t had this much leakin’ since Billy Carter watered the Rose Garden !”

Rush Limbaugh
__________________________________________________
Is that as much leaking as came from the pilonidal cyst on his fat keyster that kept him out of the draft?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:20 pm

They BOTH suck :

1) First, you intimate there is no problem.

2) Then just above you intimate both sides do it.

3) I don’t care who does or doesn’t do it the most. I just want them honest.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:20 pm

saywhat,

Dealing with libs every day I now have expertise in the identification of LBS whining. Lotta lib whining going on today about Adelson. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth in lib fantasyland.

Matti

June 14th, 2012
5:20 pm

The government of the billionaires, by the billionaires, and for the billionaires. If you can’t pay, you won’t play, and this flag don’t fly for you.

It is what it is.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:21 pm

saywhat?

You mean Clinton or Rush ?

Jay

June 14th, 2012
5:21 pm

So Veteran, I see that you feel free to make up absolute utter nonsense and post it in a public forum as fact. Are you familiar with the concepts of truth or shame?

Erwin's cat

June 14th, 2012
5:21 pm

Paul,
Mitt wont talk specifics until after he officially gets the nod at the convention…to do so before that is strategically stupid

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
5:22 pm

Adelson is a good American

Patriot

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:23 pm

Hummmm ……………………….

“June 14 is Flag Day, a national holiday celebrating the Stars and Stripes since 1949. But don’t ask Google about it.

The search giant is known for its colorful, interactive logos for everything from the 78th birthday of the inventor of the Moog synthesizer to Earth Day to the anniversary of Pac-Man. But for Flag Day, the company was presenting visitors with nothing but its usual site, declining to play up the red and blue in its logo.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/06/14/google-ignores-flag-day-while-rival-microsoft-celebrates/#ixzz1xnyg4GtO

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:24 pm

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
June 14th, 2012
5:19 pm

Doomy 5:16

Hammer drop

Jm,

He is the nail for my Thor hammer he is.

Matti

June 14th, 2012
5:24 pm

Scout,

Use bing instead. They’re flying a lovely flag graphic today.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:25 pm

Matti:

Thank you !

Paul

June 14th, 2012
5:25 pm

BOTH suck

“We can argue all day about Obama, and you would have some goods points, but Republican leaders are not offering exactly what many right leaning bloggers on this blog seem to think that are offering.”

Well, golly gee, maybe they’ll get another Reagan!

Get ready for tax increases and a tripling of the debt!

Martin Williams

Jesse Ventura?

The guy who told the military’s highest-scoring sniper that he thinks they (the military) are murderers, killing innocent people… men, women and children and he thinks they probably deserve to lose a few of their own.

That Jesse Ventura?

The guy who had the honor of a one-punch knockdown from the sniper?

That Jesse Ventura?

Not interested.

Matti

June 14th, 2012
5:25 pm

Ooooo! Mouse over the squares for a fun quiz!

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:26 pm

Scout

I didn’t say there wasn’t a problem, but most of the problems and CONVICTIONS are not due to illegals and dead people. I know it makes for great headlines and talking points, but the Parties themselves seem to be more into the deception than actual voters

Look it up………

saywhat?

June 14th, 2012
5:26 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:23 pm
Hummmm ……………………….

“June 14 is Flag Day, a national holiday celebrating the Stars and Stripes since 1949. But don’t ask Google about it.

___________________________________________________________
I heard its because Obama told them not to.

Lord Help Us

June 14th, 2012
5:27 pm

‘it’s all over the map’

Not according to your article.

The issue is puny and politically calculated by the GOP.

IMO, it is much more likely to disenfranchise legitimate votes than prevent fraud.

I would be interested in knowing why the GOP does not aggressively seek to prevent fraud with absentee ballots. That is the basis of one of only two references in your article. But the GOP ignores the more likely voter fraud source…wonder why…

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:28 pm

Paul @ 5:25

Exactly

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
5:28 pm

Fact: you can’t buy influence with a guy who already has a few hundred million

Go Romney!

Bud Wiser

June 14th, 2012
5:29 pm


Pat
June 14th, 2012
5:18 pm

It is interesting that most of Obama’s money comes from small donors while hardly any of Romney’s does. What does that say about his real “support”.

Simply put, it means that his support is from life’s losers and takers, and they will do anything to make sure the gravy train of entitlement will still stop at their mailbox.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:29 pm

Paul,

Romneys got some questions to answer. Especially about how he is going to reduce the debt while adding to defense. In the meantime I think he will just keep hamming Obama on the economy. Rightly or wrongly its much easier to be on the offensive and tear at the incumbent’s record then to promote your own.

In reference to your story that was dumb dumb dumb. Reminds me of when Barry Switzer went to the airport with a loaded gun in his luggage. That dumbsheet seems to happen every day somewhere in America.

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
5:29 pm

“Mitt wont talk specifics until after he officially gets the nod at the convention…to do so before that is strategically stupid”

Erwin’s cat, you’re absolutely correct. At this point it’s strategically smart to force Obama to languish, avoiding discussing his own record, blaming the previous administration and not proposing anything new to address our economic issues. He make himself appear incompetent to the voters and that probably explains why he’s been losing ground with voters.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
5:30 pm

“To the American electorate: “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.””

And there goes Scout, holding a politician to a standard to which he ignores applying to his beloved Christian apostles.

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
5:30 pm

Fact: adelson isn’t trying to buy influence

He just really really doesn’t like Obama

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:31 pm

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:31 pm

Jm

You many not be able to buy it, but you sure can persuade through votes………..

See Romney’s numerous changes on issues within the last 12 months

You might think he is better for the country, but whether you admit it or not, he is a run of the mill politician…….. Like the one in the WH and those that dominate both the Ds and Rs in Congress

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:32 pm

Paul:

2) Please pass to Vladimir: “After the election I’ll have more flexibility.”

3) To the American people: “The private sector is doing just fine.”

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:33 pm

TD
“Rightly or wrongly its much easier to be on the offensive and tear at the incumbent’s record then to promote your own. ”

I must admit that is true as the day is long, So get ready for a bigger pissing contest than Bush and Kerry and we all know that was pretty bad

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:33 pm

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people
June 14th, 2012
5:28 pm

Fact: you can’t buy influence with a guy who already has a few hundred million

Jm,

That’s logical and I already posited that in response to Adelson being already worth 24 billion. That simple logic seems to elude them. They keep suggesting what is Adelson getting for his money as if the guy is trying to buy millions of dollars worth of favorable legislation or something when he’s already got mega billions.

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
5:33 pm

Doom

Speaking of hammers

Greece is about to drop one

Paul

June 14th, 2012
5:34 pm

[[Heard this recently regarding voter fraud:

“If elections cannot be honest there is ‘no consent of the governed’ “.

And that my friends is fraught with peril."]]

http://tinyurl.com/6w39wfd

Go to the video, click to John Fund of the American Spectator at 2:14 and let it run to 3:00.

Lord Help Us

June 14th, 2012
5:34 pm

‘when you find fraudulent ballots in the several thousands from deceased people and illegals the potential for fraud which could turn an election has a high potential. ‘

proof?

saywhat?

June 14th, 2012
5:34 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:31 pm
HAPPY BIRTHDAY U.S. ARMY !!
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Obama forbade Google from mentioning that as well, beacuse he hates America, especially the military.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:35 pm

“Simply put, it means that his support is from life’s losers and takers, and they will do anything to make sure the gravy train of entitlement will still stop at their mailbox.”

And when I think of this post and the one who posted it

I can only dedicate the classic Doobie Bros hit to you and your mind set: “What a fool believes”

carry on

getalife

June 14th, 2012
5:35 pm

citizen united was the nuclear bomb.

They won the class war.

Move on.

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
5:35 pm

Doom

I was talking about Romney

But adelson too

The guy is too old to be buying influence

It’s about values for him

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:36 pm

They both suck,

I have some serious questions of Romney. Last thing we need is another rino. They all lie in order to get into office. Romney is saying he is going to build up defense some according to Paul. I hope that’s bs from Romney and that if Romney does indeed get in that he would forget half the promises he made and just concentrate on attacking the deficit monster first and foremost. And that means defense would have to take some smart, targeted cuts in spite of the tough talk about defense that we hear right now from Romney.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:37 pm

“They keep suggesting what is Adelson getting for his money as if the guy is trying to buy millions of dollars worth of favorable legislation or something when he’s already got mega billions.”

Then you can explain why the top corporations in the world donate money to all sides and lobby to the tunes of millions and millions yearly……… So they can be nice to their fellow man?

Really?

Paul

June 14th, 2012
5:38 pm

Recon

“I think Governor Rick Scott made a good point that given the close 2000 election where the margin was so close ”

So any ideas why President Bush’s brother Jeb, who was governor of Florida at that time, didn’t jump all over it to prevent a repeat in 2004?

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:38 pm

“The guy is too old to be buying influence

It’s about values for him”

While I love gambling and have probably put money in Adelson’s pocket via trips to Vegas, Atlantic City, Biloxi, etc, I’m not sure if gambling is a “value”

:-)

getalife

June 14th, 2012
5:39 pm

Bow down like doomy and take it.

You ain’t seen nothing yet.

saywhat?

June 14th, 2012
5:39 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:31 pm
HAPPY BIRTHDAY U.S. ARMY !!
___________________________________
And ignore picture #14, it was obviously photoshopped.

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
5:40 pm

We have a democracy

People vote their minds

Adelson gets one vote

Deal with it liberals

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:40 pm

Jm,

I knew you were talking about Romney. The principle applies to both. Its ridiculous to assume you can buy influence with someone who is already worth either 250 million like Romney or 24 billion like Adelson. But yet some of them are so simplistic in their thinking that they think it just has to be about them somehow benefitting financially.

They used to say the same ridiculous crap about Cheney and Haliburton and how we invaded Iraq for oil for Haliburton even though Cheney was mostly if not completely divested of Haliburton. It made no sense. And if Cheney was so damn greedy why was the guy giving away millions upon millions to charity? The absurdity of their Republican greed arguments is dizzying.

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

June 14th, 2012
5:41 pm

“Fact: you can’t buy influence with a guy who already has a few hundred million”

But you sure can rent it.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:41 pm

saywhat?

You had best be careful …………… Jay’s parents were both in the Army.

Just sayin’

SPC

June 14th, 2012
5:41 pm

As if the unions weren’t doing the same thing. I agree the money has gotten out of hand.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:41 pm

Is it right for Rhode Island to have two senators and California only two ?

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
5:42 pm

Jm

Smart man like yourself fully understands that one can “lobby” not only for themselves but for their offspring, business, industry, etc. yes their “values” as well, but you are too smart to be posting something that naive.

No I do not know Adelson’s motives and have said if it is legal, he can donate as he pleases, but let’s be a little more honest with the issue.

Jm-pass TSPLOST silly people

June 14th, 2012
5:42 pm

Tbs haha :)

My core point is true though, as you know

josef

June 14th, 2012
5:42 pm

The point is not how much money A, B or C has, nor even what s/he chooses to spend it on. However, when it comes to the public’s interest, it does become a public matter. And nobody goes spending their shekels without expecting something back in return. When it comes to use of private coins in the public political process, yes, I think we ought to know exactly what it is A. B, or C wants in return.

Thomas

June 14th, 2012
5:43 pm

Priorities USA Action

MoveOn.org

etc etc yawn yawn

for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

For those who don’t understand this simply, like Bookie, have their head up their arse

Great column Jay- really learned a lot.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:43 pm

Jm,

I’m dying to see what happens with Greece. The death knell of the welfare state is at hand.

Mark in mid-town

June 14th, 2012
5:44 pm

Citizens United was a wonderful affirmation of the right to engage in free speech. The more political speech, the better. The only thing wrong with it is that the money ought to be donated to the candidate directly, rather than 3rd party groups. That would make the candidates more accountable for the advertisements run. The reason Jay and other Democratic Party hacks in the msm hate it so much is that the more conservatives can get their message out, the less power the msm has to control political messaging. For those who think there is too much money in politics, keep in mind that even with Citizens United, more money will most probably have still been spent on Valentines Day gifts than will be spent on the presidential race.

josef

June 14th, 2012
5:44 pm

How is Romeny a RINO? What makes him that?

getalife

June 14th, 2012
5:45 pm

I don’t think willard can keep track of his lies.

“WASHINGTON — In a development bound to please business trade groups, senators from both sides of the aisle have voted to block new federal rules that would require employers to look harder for American workers before turning to low-wage foreign guest workers who come to the U.S. on visas.”

Here we go……….

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:46 pm

” I’m not sure if gambling is a “value””

they both suck,

Blasphemy you infidel! What in the hell is wrong with the values of getting liquored up, throwing around some coin, and chasing hot and fast women? Seems to me you need some re-prioritization in your life.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
5:47 pm

Erwin’s cat

“Mitt wont talk specifics until after he officially gets the nod at the convention…to do so before that is strategically stupid”

Oh sure it is. But it does illustrate the point, doesn’t it? People will vote for Mitt based on faith (I like that line) that he will in fact do what they want him to do.

Or, as has been said, they Hope he doesn’t Change from what they want!

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:47 pm

josef,

Romney care makes Mitt a rino.

Aquagirl

June 14th, 2012
5:48 pm

Smart man like yourself fully understands that one can “lobby” not only for themselves but for their offspring, business, industry, etc.

Or their country of choice….which in Adelson’s case is Israel.

I suppose he could buy his own private army and black market nuclear weapons but it’s less hassle to rent ours. No worries about nuclear whoopsies in your own backyard. All legal, too, thanks to the Supremes.

mdouglasman

June 14th, 2012
5:50 pm

What? Roberts’ court partisan, naive….yeah, look at Kagan, Ginsberg, Breyer, Sotomayor..none of which has ever had a ‘Constitution’ thought….and who knows about Kennedy. At least we have some adults in the room in Roberts, Thomas, Scalia, and Alito. BTW, the only entity that can spend ‘limitless’ money is the government…what they can’t confiscate from its citizens, they can print. Jay, you and your lemmings will wake up when you fall over the cliff. Please don’t reproduce.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
5:50 pm

Thulsa

Don’t ever talk to my wife about Barry Switzer. She was on a plane and heard something going on, looked up, there was Barry standing in the aisle at the front, grandly demonstrating for a guy how he does a great golf swing.

“Look at me” knows no boundaries -

Paul

June 14th, 2012
5:54 pm

Scout

“2) Please pass to Vladimir: “After the election I’ll have more flexibility.”

As others have recently noted in a similar vein, well duh. No kidding. That’s politics.

“3) To the American people: “The private sector is doing just fine.””

Same answer as ‘there goes Scout again with his double standards.”

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:54 pm

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
5:54 pm

“Or their country of choice….which in Adelson’s case is Israel.”

Nothing like the usual whiff of possible anti- Semitism in the air from the hard left.

“I suppose he could buy his own private army and black market nuclear weapons but it’s less hassle to rent ours. No worries about nuclear whoopsies in your own backyard. All legal, too, thanks to the Supremes.”

Well of course the supremes legalized the rental of nukes. Bill Gates for example regularly rents ICBMs and nuclear fast attack submarines so that he can pretend war against Apple’s operations over in China. As for any suggestions about Adelson and Israel and nukes most people know already that Israel already has nukes.

josef

June 14th, 2012
5:54 pm

THULSA

The people of Massachusetts wanted it. The people of Massachusetts voted Romney into office. Romney served the people of Massachusetts. So, a Republican who represents the people who voted for him is “in name only” when that representation conflicts with the strictures of an ideological stance of the party purists?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
5:55 pm

Paul:

Thanks for your input.

josef

June 14th, 2012
5:56 pm

AQUAGIRL

“Or their country of choice….which in Adelson’s case is Israel.”

Elaborate on that, please.

Michael

June 14th, 2012
5:57 pm

We have to admit that Adelson is a successful and rich businessman, and he knows how to run casinos. Then again, the mafia is also successful and rich, and they also know how to run casinos. I’d feel better, if his skill set weren’t so similar to the Mafia.
Romney won’t give specifics before the convention, because he is concerned about the independents. The nomination process included some outrageous cheering, like when they mentioned the number of prisoners executed in Texas and the response of “let em die”. Romney knows that if he sounds moderate, he will have a revolt at the convention and lose the teas.

Liberal Pariah

June 14th, 2012
5:57 pm

Big Deal…Soros has given more than that through all kinds of channels. Last I looked, the SCOTUS rulings apply to Conservatives and LIBERALS…maybe the Liberal donors realize giving to Liberal politicians and causes is ruining our country :-) One could hope anyway.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
5:59 pm

Anytime, Scout.

BTW, Gen Odierno was on Morning Joe this morning when Arianna Huffington asked him about all the backroom pressure military leaders put on the administration to expand the war in Afghanistan. 4-stars are quite the diplomats. His smirk as he said something like “I think that’s a bit strongly stated” was priceless.

That Black Guy

June 14th, 2012
5:59 pm

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
4:46 pm
TBG @ 4:41

That was funny. What’s up man? Hope the week is going well for you. – All is good, TBS, all is good.

I do have to agree with Bro, this people are not donating this kind of money just because they love “America”…. – That is so true, IMO.

That goes for all sides. Ds, Rs and whomevers – but if they donate 5.248577562184% MORE to repubs, then the repubs are the only ones trying to “buy” the election.

Oh, and they are the only ones that peoduce negative ads.

At least, that’s what I heard.

ragnar danneskjold

June 14th, 2012
6:00 pm

Leftists cannot stand it when conservatives use freedom of speech to dispute the leftist vision. Of course, leftists cannot be elected unless they can keep the truth from being spoken.

But sometimes leftists do talk intelligently:
USA Today notes that in 2010 Clinton gave a speech at Cleveland’s Cuyahoga Community College–the same place where Obama spoke this afternoon–in which he said: “The Democrats are saying something like this: ‘We found a big hole that we did not dig. We didn’t get it filled in 21 months, but at least we quit digging. Give us two more years. If it doesn’t work, vote us out.’ ”

Time’s up.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
6:01 pm

Paul,

I would cut Switzer a little bit of slack. Like a lot of pampered coaches or athletes his ego probably got out of check a long time ago. But he did have a really hard, rough life. His dad was murdered and his mom blew her head off in the backyard when he came home from college during his freshman year. And Switzer had a special affinity for black athletes that helped integrate them that much more quickly at OU and then also at other programs. He grew up dirt poor and related to them very well and I would say he as much as anyone was instrumental in integrating blacks into our major colleges. Does kinda suck though that he would later become somewhat of a jackass. But I guess we all have our flaws.

kayaker 71

June 14th, 2012
6:01 pm

Liked Rush’s new name for Bozo….. Barak Hussain Kardashian. He pointed out that Bozo has had 170 fund raisers since he has been president…… more than any other president in history in just 3 and 1/2 years and most on the taxpayer dime. Except for the Hollywood crowd which is not that significant, and the unions, he seems to be struggling a bit. No one likes to back a loser. Liberals don’t complain when Bozo gets a big hit form some limousine liberal but when Adleson kicks in some significant scratch, it is an evil act. More selective indignation from the Bookman fountain of knowledge.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:02 pm

Thulsa

Never knew that about him. Thanks.

‘Course, my wife’s not an OU fan, so I’m sure that contributes -

WilliamM

June 14th, 2012
6:05 pm

No problem with Obama claiming he would raise $1,000,000,000; no problem with billionaire Soros funding countless left-wing organizations whose sole purpose is to defeat Republican candidates; no problem with Unions extracting contributions from their members, whether or not they want to contribute; but if a conservative donates $10,000,000 to a Republican candidate for President, the liberals are up in arms!

Obama is over

June 14th, 2012
6:05 pm

Well I guess your comments about partisanship in the Supreme Court are laying the foundation for your blog after Obamacare is shot down. The next step in Obama’s downward spiral. Obama blew all. of his political capital on this “signiture’ legislation. Like it or not, it will be his legacy. We are starting to see members of the Democratic party start to distance themselves from Obama because they realize he has no new ideas and his platform has been a disaster. Next stop- Dodd-Frank.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
6:05 pm

josef,

Well you stated something that must of us know about Romney- Mass citizens wanted it and he was after all a R in a dominant D state and so he pretty much gave them what they wanted. But in the back minds of many cons regardless of the accuracy of your statement it still makes him a rino for acquiescing.

Aquagirl

June 14th, 2012
6:05 pm

Elaborate on that, please

He’s got quite an interest in the Israeli state and has traveled there for some fairly high profile stuff. And it was apparently a major reason why he supported Newt Gingrich.

http://www.npr.org/2012/03/20/148939665/for-a-personal-cause-casino-owner-bets-on-gingrich

Lord Help Us

June 14th, 2012
6:06 pm

‘Liked Rush’s new name for Bozo…’

How ’bout this new name for Rush:

Drug addicted-limp dlck-serial marrying-foul mouthed-draft dodging-unemployment collecting-fat-ahole.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
6:06 pm

Liked Rush’s new name for Bozo….. Barak Hussain Kardashian.

Too funny!

Liberals have been referring to Bristol Palin as Wal-mart Kardashian for some weeks now.

Didn’t know that El Rushbo was recycling other people’s material.

How “green” of him.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
6:09 pm

Paul,

Oh lordy. She a husker or Tejas fan? That right there would have been enough to put Switzer on a hit list.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:09 pm

Thulsa 6:05

“In a 2001 interview he said, “I think it is much easier to be a good member of the (LDS) Church and a Democrat than a good member of the Church and a Republican.” He went on to say that the Democrats’ emphasis on helping others, as opposed to what he considers Republican dogma to the contrary, is the reason he’s a Democrat.[60] He delivered a speech at Brigham Young University to about 20,000 students on October 9, 2007, in which he expressed his opinion that Democratic values mirror Mormon values.”

No wonder so many on the Right have doubts about Romney!

:-)

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:10 pm

Thulsa

Sorry, that was a quote regarding Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev)

GT

June 14th, 2012
6:10 pm

Does any of this money go to pay off the rest of Newt’s campaign debt? I think Romney was at one time willing to talk about that with Newt. The far right is owned by gambling concerns, life get more interesting by the minute.

josef

June 14th, 2012
6:10 pm

AQUAGIRL

You said…

“Or their country of choice….which in Adelson’s case is Israel

and now you say

“He’s got quite an interest in the Israeli state and has traveled there for some fairly high profile stuff. And it was apparently a major reason why he supported Newt Gingrich.”

How does the latter make the former true?

kayaker 71

June 14th, 2012
6:11 pm

Lord help Us, 6:06,

Wow, your creativity is showing. It would appear that you don’t care much for him. However, I think that BH Kardashian is much more descriptive.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:11 pm

That Black Guy

June 14th, 2012
6:11 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

June 14th, 2012
4:53 pm
My bottom line — if you don’t have the right to vote, then you shouldn’t have the right to engage in any political activity whatsoever.

JHM, I could get behind an idea like that.

That Black Guy

June 14th, 2012
6:13 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

June 14th, 2012
4:56 pm
Doom — “Attorneys, insurance agents, heating and air service people, landscapers, retail sales clerks, IT people, there’s a lot of people that don’t “produce” anything tangible. They do however provide a service or important advice or an enjoyable experience. ”

So do wh*res, but I’m not going to look to them (or indeed any of the people you listed) for advice on who I should vote for.
_________________________________________________

I don’t know.

They say “like recognize like and game recognize game” :lol:

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

June 14th, 2012
6:14 pm

The unions, Hollywood and Wall Street used to have it all in the bag for the Democrats. Now that things have been evened up, you want to cry. Tell it to Oprah.

Lord Help Us

June 14th, 2012
6:17 pm

‘Wow, your creativity is showing. It would appear that you don’t care much for him. However, I think that BH Kardashian is much more descriptive.’

Score one for Captain Obvious…

Do you like Rush for the conservative values on display in the way he conducts his life? Are you a dittohead? Do you think a draft dodging, serial marrying, drug addicted, bigoted loud mouth is a conservative?

Sincerely, I have always wondered why the ‘family values’ party deifies such a degenerate…

ragnar danneskjold

June 14th, 2012
6:17 pm

Sounds like Chauncey really wowed the crowd with his 54 minute economics speech today.
http://politicker.com/2012/06/president-obamas-speech-gets-a-thumbs-down-from-political-press-corps/

Of course, given that he has not passed a math class since the tenth grade, such lousy reviews on a difficult subject are to be expected.

Aquagirl

June 14th, 2012
6:18 pm

How does the latter make the former true?

I’m not sure what’s unclear about Mr. Adelson’s interest in Israel, josef. That’s not a snark answer either, his views seem pretty clear. Perhaps terming it “his country of choice” means something different to you.

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
6:18 pm

““No wonder people without a moral compass hate regulations.”

So, b/c I think anything (legal) goes in an election I have no moral compass and hate regulations?

You need a f’ing parachute for that leap, Paul.

pogo

June 14th, 2012
6:19 pm

Obama’s much touted “Major Speech” today on the economy has even some of his supporters in the liberal press scratching their heads and asking what the hell is going on? Is this the same man that ran in 2008? Obama seems to have run out of gas and he seems to have no energy, no plan, no nothing. Axlerod built Obama’s entire 2012 campaign on attacks and Chicago style politics and that isn’t working out for him at all. In fact it makes Obama look even more pitiful. Without any record of success (other than what our intelligence and the Navy Seals did with Bin Laden) Obama has nothing to run on. I guess he can always go to his deck of cards and order another drone attack and ignore the “collateral” damage but that won’t help him either. America is now numb to these daily leaks from the Whitehouse about another assasination in the Mideast and they pay no attention to them. Of course if Bush would have done them the press would have condemned him as a murderer.

What is apparent is Obama is finally being exposed as the amateur and charlatan he always was but the press and his supporters didn’t have the nerve to admit it. Most still don’t. Home foreclosures and applications for jobless benefits rose again today. Obama is a misery president just as Carter was and his hand chosen advisors have served him terribly in his presidency. They have advised him to not negotiate and that is about to become his undoing.

Have to go. It is time to make another contribution to a conservative Super-Pac for Romney.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
6:20 pm

josef:

“Dear God: Why do You allow such violence in our schools? Signed: A Concerned Student

Dear Concerned Student: I’m not allowed in your schools! Signed: God”

Rightwing Troll

June 14th, 2012
6:20 pm

“Looks like people who understand the economy and business know that if O is re-elected that it means the imminent collapse of the nation. ”

First you idiots said that O’s initial election was the end of the world, now it’s his re-election that is the harbinger of doom… even though he’s managed to clean up the steaming pile of poo you and W left behind, and kill OBL, and increase domestic oil production, and decrease the size of government, and slow down federal spending…

You can’t give us a single solitary example of what Mittens will do if elected, you just want that ni&&er out of the white house… just go ahead and say it, be honest for once…

Priceless…

josef

June 14th, 2012
6:22 pm

AQUAGIRL

It appears that Adelson’s loyalties to the United States of America are being brought into question by the use of the term “country of choice.”

I am wondering why you would say it that way and in such a blanket fashion with no elaboration as you said it. Almost as if it were an unquestionable fiat.

josef

June 14th, 2012
6:24 pm

SCOUT

Oh, G-d is there. H- just doesn’t make a big deal of it.

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
6:25 pm

“Obama calls for ending Bush-era tax cuts for families making more than $250,000 a year as well as tax breaks for the oil industry and others to increase revenue, while also holding down spending and seeking long-term entitlement reforms.”

Sounds good but we’ve heard it before.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
6:27 pm

Oh, G-d is there. H- just doesn’t make a big deal of it.

And prayers are certainly there also. Students pray just about every time you teachers announce a pop quiz.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:30 pm

Peadawg

[[““No wonder people without a moral compass hate regulations.”

So, b/c I think anything (legal) goes in an election I have no moral compass and hate regulations?

You need a f’ing parachute for that leap, Paul.]]

Everything isn’t always about you, Peadawg.

I posted

[["“Anything goes as long as it’s not illegal imo.”

No wonder people without a moral compass hate regulations.]]

If I wanted to direct it to you, I would have.

I was noting a connection: “if it isn’t specifically prohibited by law, I can do it.” Republicans want to get rid of regulations, which oftentimes keep companies from doing things that could be harmful to others. So if there’s no regulation, there’s nothing to keep them from doing what they want to do, so they will go head and do it. Because it’s not illegal.

Now do you understand?

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:32 pm

If I learn to pray in school, will I learn to read in church?

And will they give me a rug to pray on?

And will they let me speak Hebrew?

And will I get in trouble for chanting?

josef

June 14th, 2012
6:33 pm

K’CHAK

And us teachers pray a lot, “Oh, Dear L-rd, please keep me from slapping that Mama into next Tuesday!” :-)

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
6:36 pm

“If I wanted to direct it to you, I would have.” – Since you responded to my post, I took as directed at me. Duh.

“Republicans want to get rid of regulations” – I know. Good for them.

josef

June 14th, 2012
6:38 pm

“If I learn to pray in school, will I learn to read in church?”

You’ll get a chance to hone the skill.

“And will they give me a rug to pray on?”

In a public school, no, you have to bring your own.

“And will they let me speak Hebrew?”

Secular or liturgical Hebrew?

And will I get in trouble for chanting?

In the proper time and place, no.

josef

June 14th, 2012
6:40 pm

PEADAWG
@ 6:36

So, you are for unlimited and unmonitored campaign donations?

Obama is over

June 14th, 2012
6:40 pm

I do think that after today’s speach, Obama has a great chance of beating George W Bush in 2012.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:42 pm

Peadawg

““Republicans want to get rid of regulations” – I know. Good for them.”

In December 2009 Colgan Air flight 3407 crashed while on approach to Buffalo airport, killing all 49 aboard and a person on the ground.

The government issued new regulations to prevent similar crashes.

Do you want to get rid of those regulations?

Aquagirl

June 14th, 2012
6:42 pm

It appears that Adelson’s loyalties to the United States of America are being brought into question by the use of the term “country of choice.”

I didn’t mean to imply he has greater loyalty to Israel over the U.S., but I can see how my statement was unclear. When I said “country of choice” it was because Israel would indeed be a country of choice; his “choice” of the US is a default assumption like it is for any other citizen.

But Mr. Adelson is not shy about voicing his opinions on foreign policy in the region, and the impression of a single person buying close access to the president does no one any favors.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:43 pm

Enjoying our EOI status, are we, josef?

Tommy Maddox

June 14th, 2012
6:43 pm

Oh boy – we should get a SCOTUS ruling this month on Obamacare.

As for Adelson, maybe his money will offset union dues paid over to the Left. Come on November.

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
6:44 pm

“Do you want to get rid of those regulations?”

No. This has been another case of simple answers to simple questions. What was your point with that question?

“So, you are for unlimited and unmonitored campaign donations?”

I don’t care about campaign donations. It’s the lobbyists gifts once they’re in office that bugs me.

kayaker 71

June 14th, 2012
6:46 pm

Being an unbending, strict socialist ideologue, Bozo has sealed his fate. He has no wiggle room. The House has submitted 30 jobs bills and when they get to the Senate, they go no further. The electorate does not want to live in an Obama America and they have made that very clear. They do not like his Health Care bill, they do not like the debt that he has amassed, and most of all, they just don’t trust this clown. With his rigidity, there leaves no room for compromise. Compromise, to Bozo is a waste of time, especially for someone who had on day one, a vision of America much different than even those who voted for him thought was on the radar screen. When he said he wanted to essentially change America, most of those who voted or him really didn’t know what he meant. Over the last 3 years, he has made it painfully clear what he had in mind. And most of those guilt ridden white liberals who cheered this empty suit in Lincoln Park in Chicago thought that they were doing this country such a favor by putting this social experiment in government housing. It is amazing how things change in three years.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:48 pm

Peadawg

“What was your point with that question?”

Couple of points. Republicans and those on this blog have not – not – stated any criteria for rescinding regulations.

Second point: in fact, just this week, Candidate Romney stated he would rescind all – as in ‘every one’ – regulations implemented during the Obama Administration.

Looks like you’re at odds with the candidate, which is not a bad thing.

Also looks like Republicans are willing to let people die in the name of ideology, which is not a good thing.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
6:50 pm

josef:

Oh, I know he is there because there are those who bring Him in the hearts ……………… :o

That said:

“Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord” Psalm 23:12

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:50 pm

kayaker 71

“Being an unbending, strict socialist ideologue, Bozo has”

You’ve turned the art of leading with a wildly inaccurate statement and using it to form the basis of a long screed into an art form.

Peadawg

June 14th, 2012
6:50 pm

“Looks like you’re at odds with the candidate”

I’m at odds w/ both candidates. I think it’s sad that out of the millions of people in this country…these are the 2 that we get to choose between for President.

josef

June 14th, 2012
6:51 pm

AQUAGIRL

Thank you for the elaboration.

PAUL
I’m in one of my “moods” today… :-)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
6:51 pm

josef:

I once put a tack in a teacher’s chair.

I guess today that would be felonious assault ?

bman

June 14th, 2012
6:51 pm

Don’t worry guys! Romney isn’t going to have a spending edge.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:51 pm

“Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord” Psalm 23:12″

This means Israel, right?

’cause the Christian Lord wasn’t around when David wrote that.

So no nations would’ve been blessed then.

Even the one G-d set up.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:52 pm

josef

Hmmm… That explains it.

I never would’ve guessed.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
6:53 pm

Peadawg

There’s a lot to like in that 6:50.

bman

June 14th, 2012
6:56 pm

Peadawg .. . I agree. But, it’s not anything new. A strong republican could have beaten Clinton in 1996. Dole? 2000? Gore? Any decent democrat would have won. Then Kerry vs Bush? Same story. McCain vs Obama? And the beat goes on this November.

Aquagirl

June 14th, 2012
7:00 pm

Thank you for the elaboration.

No problem…better than suffering your wrath later for sticking my foot in my mouth. :)

josef

June 14th, 2012
7:01 pm

PAUL

It’s the G&T! Also, oldest boy and family will be here this weekend…the tribe’s gathering and I have to make the potato salad. That always brings up the marital conflict…He hates my potato salad and I hate his “potato soup” that he calls “salad…”

josef

June 14th, 2012
7:02 pm

AQUAGIRL

I’m under orders to “be nice!” :-)

bman

June 14th, 2012
7:06 pm

Josef .. .. you’re always nice!

Bruno

June 14th, 2012
7:09 pm

Nah. If I try to factor that in, we go from simple arithmetic to differential equations. Bruno’s the only other person I know here that understands DE. I was just trying to keep it simple.

Brosephus–You have to include Erwin’s Cat in the exclusive Blog Math Jeenyus Club.

PB and I are cranking up our running schedule in anticipation of the Peachtree Road Race. Got our numbers today–banished to Group 9. :-(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIbtr38j_s8

Aquagirl

June 14th, 2012
7:09 pm

I’m under orders to “be nice!”

People don’t even bother to tell me that any more. They probably figure their time would be better spent p*ssing in the wind. :)

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:09 pm

josef

Soupy potato salad? Yuck.

I like good sized cubes of potatoes… not mushy at all… Hellman’s mayonnaise… hard-cooked eggs mixed in…. celery…. very little onion…. dash of mustard..

I think it’s one of those things that whatever you were raised with is the best.

bman

Could you please finish the sentence?

josef’s always nice and what ?

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
7:09 pm

Paul,

OSU. A ha. That makes sense. I wouldn’t want to get her started but I imagine she’s probably not a fan of my beloved Crimson Tide either after last year.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:10 pm

Aquagirl

Do you tell them upwind or downwind?

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:11 pm

Thulsa

Let’s not go there… happy home and all….

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
7:11 pm

Aquagirl,

Last I checked Israel was an ally of the U.S. One of our staunchest allies as a matter of fact. Why do oppose Adelman’s support of Israel?

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
7:12 pm

Paul,

We’ll leave it alone. I wouldn’t want you to be banished to sleeping on the couch.

Bruno

June 14th, 2012
7:14 pm

PB hates when I sing this song when we’re running:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PtvLTZS4Ik

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:15 pm

Thulsa

When we were furniture shopping I laid down on the couch. Saleswoman looked and me and Mrs. Paul said “what are you doing?” and I said “just checking out the comfort ’cause I know where I’ll be on more than one occasion.”

Bruno

June 14th, 2012
7:18 pm

josef

June 14th, 2012
7:18 pm

bman

I’m with Paul on that one! What?

AQUAGIRL

I don’t follow orders well, though…

PAUL

I like mine chunky, too. White potatoes boiled with the skins on and then skinned and with the eggs chunked. I don’t use celery, but I do use onion, dill pickle chips, and black and green olives. Hellman’s is second choice, Kraft first. Mold on a platter, sprinkle with paprika, garnish with wedged tomatoes around the molded mound, add some whole black and green olives in little piles on the four sides, sprinkle some salad olives and sliced black olives, do a flourette of thinly wedged tomatoes on the top, then just before serving sprinkle with bacon bits (the ones you fried, not that dreck from the store)…

Aquagirl

June 14th, 2012
7:20 pm

Why do oppose Adelman’s support of Israel?

I don’t. What I oppose is any one person having that much influence with the head of our military and State dept, whether that influence is real or perceived.

The only grudge I have with Israel is not enough itchy trigger fingers around Cindy McKinney.

Get Real

June 14th, 2012
7:23 pm

What a load of crap Jaybo

Billions of Dollars from Soros for Obama

You a so left you probably have removed your right turn signal from your car….try and have a least an inkling of balance…just an inkling

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:23 pm

josef

That sounds delicious.

Even not raised on it, I’d happily down a couple servings.

And gotta make it the day before. It’s like mac and cheese – ssooooooooo much better the second day.

josef

June 14th, 2012
7:23 pm

In our house the argument is over who GETS to sleep on the couch! It’s one of those huge, L-shaped ones with huge pillow cushions. We got it “second hand” from a sister-in-law who’s boyfriend owned a furniture factory and had it made especially for her…when it was time for him to go, the couch needed a new home.

Bruno

June 14th, 2012
7:24 pm

One more for the road:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRLwIM_CwdI&feature=related

For the record, josef, I enjoy “Southern Style” potato salad. You Rebs get something right on occasion. ;-)

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:25 pm

“Billions of Dollars from Soros for Obama”

Uh-oh…. only 7:30 and someone’s been drinking all day….

or missed his meds…

or something…..

barking frog

June 14th, 2012
7:25 pm

Aqua Girl
are you advocating the
shooting of Cynthia
Mckinney by the Israelis?

You libs

June 14th, 2012
7:27 pm

Live up to your name, Get Real.

“try and have a least an inkling of balance…just an inkling”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-01/soros-sits-out-obama-s-super-pac-money-race-beside-big-democratic-givers.html

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:27 pm

josef 7:23

LOL I have images of you, whenever one of her boyfriends had given her lots of nice stuff, of you starting to whisper in her ear “you could do so much better…. he doesn’t treat you very well…. you should really send him packing….”

Get Real

June 14th, 2012
7:27 pm

Actually Paul I have been working all day, how about yourself…blogging all day; very impressive

josef

June 14th, 2012
7:27 pm

AQUAGIRL

“The only grudge I have with Israel is not enough itchy trigger fingers around Cindy McKinney.”

No need to elaborate on that one! :-)

PAUL
Oh, yeah, I forgot…let the it set overnight in the ‘fridge before making the molded-presentation…nosh on it in the meantime!

Ol' Timer

June 14th, 2012
7:27 pm

Makes you think that if voting matter they’d probably outlaw it.

stands for decibels

June 14th, 2012
7:27 pm

Naivete?

Not hardly, it was by design.

Interesting–I had just listened yesterday to an interview with Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (available here) where he’d expressed something similar to Jay, but went on at some length. Said that the Roberts court exposes one weakness in having judges who’ve never really been part of of America’s political process.

I’ve always thought that electing judges was a stupid, stupid thing, but that would be one argument in favor of it. (And yes, I know in some states they do elect judges, but I don’t believe that was the case in any of our SCOTUSers. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, please.)

Furthermore Whitehouse picked up on an angle of Citizens United and the superPAC horror it’s unleashed that I’d never really considered, but per the Senator, anyone closely connected to electioneering would have grasped immediately–the problem isn’t so much in what people can DO with the many millions of dollars in negative ads that they run against candidates. It’s what they can THREATEN to do.

In other words, if you’re Joe Billionaire, you simply have your lobbyist go and tell Congressman Smith that you’re really not happy with the Congressman’s stance on a particular bill, and that you’ve got five million bucks lined up to sponsor an ad by Americans for Peace and Puppies that will call Smith some kind of child-molesting murderer so long as you remain unhappy.

This is a scenario rarely considered, and I suspect it’s already been played out hundreds of times on the Hill, as well as in state legislatures across the fruited plain. What a country. What a mess.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
7:28 pm

Paul:

““Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord” Psalm 23:12″

This means Israel, right?

’cause the Christian Lord wasn’t around when David wrote that.”

I don’t ask you to believe it …………. that’s a personal choice ………. but I must disagree.

For most Christians Jesus was the physical manifestation of Jehovah. One and the same.

Even He said, “I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” John 8:58

By making that statement before the religious leaders, Jesus claimed to be God ………… an a act punishable by death ………. which those same rulers had carried out at the hand of the Romans.

As I have said before:

LIAR
LUNATIC
or
LORD

Tundra Dude

June 14th, 2012
7:30 pm

So a person worth 24 billion is supporting the candidate worth 255 million.

Sounds like a closet liberal, wanting to help out the less fortunate millionaires,,,,,,,

Get Real

June 14th, 2012
7:31 pm

You libs…interesting read, you want to place bets on Soros remaining idle…at least by his past giving standards…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
7:33 pm

Gazillions of Dollars from Soros for Obama

Don't Forget

June 14th, 2012
7:35 pm

not that DRECK from the store)…

My Dad used that term all the time

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:35 pm

Get Real

Work begins when you’re likely still home. Still working and having fun here.

You’re right, it is impressive.

Now that we assume you’re sober, I take it you have a cite for your assertion?

josef

June 14th, 2012
7:36 pm

PAUL

Nyanh, I don’t have to do that! She don’t keep one that long! She’s one great person. When the youngest of her kids left home, she told my brother,”no offense meant, you’re a good daddy and not an altogether bad husband, but it’s time for you to go, you’ve served your purpose and I’ve served mine. Now it’s time for us to go do the other things we were missing out on. We’d just be in each others way.”

She was the one that was always there for me when I was the little gay boy coming of age. She wrote in my yearbook, “love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.” Good advice and has stood me in good stead.

She’s Choctaw and that may explain why I grew up and married one…

Aquagirl

June 14th, 2012
7:36 pm

are you advocating the shooting of Cynthia Mckinney by the Israelis?

Not seriously, unless she’s shooting at them. I’d rather she fade quietly into obscurity instead of trying to fuel international incidents where someone, including herself, might get killed. But it’s kind of like a drunk driver—if something did happen, I would have little sympathy for her.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
7:37 pm

P.S. to Paul:

If the “Christian Faith” just started with Christ then we would just have a N.T.

We hold in reverence both the O.T. and the N.T. because we believe they are a continuation of the same Gospel ……………. the typology in the O.T. sacrificial lamb was fulfilled literally in “The Lamb (Jesus)” Who takes away the sins of the world.

Again, I’m not even asking you to believe …….. that’s just our belief.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
7:37 pm

Out for awhile ………… everyone be nice.

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 14th, 2012
7:39 pm

The Alaska railroad is owned by the state of Alaska

Soculizm!! :)

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:40 pm

Scout

Not the point.

As I said before, David wrote that before Christians existed.

So it’s interesting Christians quote a scripture with a concept in mind that would seem to be just a tad different than the Jewish writer had in mind.

‘course, that happens a lot with the Old Testament.

And I’ve a good friend down the street who’s Jewish. Who converted to the LDS church about six years ago. Spoke to her a few days ago. Were talking about the impact on her relations with her family and I asked her the biggest change. She said accepting Jesus as Messiah.

We were discussing Dead Sea Scrolls. I have some wonderful discussions with her.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
7:43 pm

Quadrillions of Dollars from Soros for Obama

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:43 pm

Scout 7:37

Oh, I know. I’m just fascinated by how one group writes something, another group follows from it and says ‘you may have had that for centuries but this is the interpretation that really existed and you’ve just missed the point of it all.”

Not bashing anyone, just find it interesting.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
7:44 pm

Bajillions of Dollars from Soros for Obama

josef

June 14th, 2012
7:45 pm

SCOUT
The meaning of that, I fear, is often misinterpreted. The Hebrew Ehy-h-Asher-Ehy-h is the present tense of the verb “to be” which is not used in the spoken-written language (the same as in many languages, Russian, Hungarian, most American Indian languages, and contextually Southern English). The significance is that in the context that you mention the PAST tense is used as a verb, while the name remains in the present. This indicates, not that Jesus was, but that long before we got mired down in the Abrahamic tradition, the Et-rnal was there and all of us are of H-s creation and equal in H-s eyes.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:46 pm

Scout

I’ve a son-in-law who’s a member of the Church of God. They observe Passover, most of the festivals, don’t celebrate Christmas, don’t eat pork. In their belief system the fulfillment of the Law means you continue to keep it.

He really didn’t like discussing Acts 10 and Galatians 2.

We leave it alone.

pogo

June 14th, 2012
7:47 pm

Jon Stewart is tearing Obama’s ass up tonight about exactly the same thing I was talking about earlier and that is Obama’s kill list and his capitalizing on it. Stewart is also skewering him on fundraising and selling out to big business. Jon Stewart? Obama is in trouble.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:48 pm

Kamchak

Soros gave a googolplexian dollars to Obama!!!!!

So there!!!!!

Paul

June 14th, 2012
7:49 pm

josef

I was hoping you’d chime in. Thanks. I really like that.

Kamchak

Did you scare away Get Real?

josef

June 14th, 2012
7:50 pm

CARLOS

Just in case you happen to drop by and read that @ 7:45, it would mean that G-d is and was an existentialist… :-)

TaxPayer

June 14th, 2012
7:50 pm

Actually, Obama has secretly raised one trillion dollars so far for his campaign. Oops! I wasn’t supposed to let that slip. Not that there’s anything to worry about given how cheap those billionaire backers of Mitten’s are. They squirm and moan after giving a measly 10 million. White Houses don’t come cheap, cons. Let’s see some real money from ya.

josef

June 14th, 2012
7:52 pm

POGO

Stewart is the EOI’s EOI…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
7:54 pm

Soros gave a googolplexian dollars to Obama!!!!!

Good job!

If we’re just gonna make sh*t up, no sense in being half-assed about it.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
7:57 pm

” I’d rather she fade quietly into obscurity ”

That aint gonna happen. Besides it aint so bad seeing Cynthia in the news here and there. Her very name evokes laughter and her antics some much needed comic relief. The last I saw of her she was palling around with Akhmahateijad and talking about human rights- Ironical it is.

Bernie

June 14th, 2012
7:59 pm

Jay, what you say about Mr. Adelson is probably true, but his VOTE only counts one time! There are millions of American women and others who disagree with his choice for President. I am one of them and their votes count too!

Paul

June 14th, 2012
8:01 pm

“If we’re just gonna make sh*t up, no sense in being half-assed about it.”

Kamchak, I think that one needs to get saved and reposted regularly on this blog.

Like fifty times a day!

That was a really funny note to end on, thanks!

Pleasant evening, all -

Boris Badnoff

June 14th, 2012
8:06 pm

So when Bunny Mellon gives mega moolah to John Edwards so he can pursue POTUS and sire rug rats with women who look like Hulk Hogan on a bad hair day it’s perfectly alright. After all Bookman and Edwards share the same hair stylist. But Mittens has great hair as well. What’s going on? Nice to know when some fair weather liberals are questioning Our Beloved Messiah

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/please-excuse-my-president/

we can take solace in Jay Bookman who has the determination, perspective, and focus of a Kamikaze pilot.

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 14th, 2012
8:06 pm

Googleoplexian is more than billions. I’m pretty sure. :)

I'sMe

June 14th, 2012
8:08 pm

Has Obama hit his much heralded billion dollar mark yet?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
8:16 pm

josef:

“The meaning of that, I fear, is often misinterpreted.”

It wasn’t misinterpreted by the leading Jewish rulers of the day ! And they certainly knew the scriptures and the language.

In their minds He claimed to be GOD which is why they cried “blasphemy” and why they had him crucified.

Again …………. it all boils down to:

LIAR
LUNATIC
or
LORD.

I’ve made my choice.

Out again ………. be back in about two hours.

Tundra Dude

June 14th, 2012
8:19 pm

Pogo wrote, in part:
Stewart is also skewering him on fundraising and selling out to big business. Jon Stewart? Obama is in trouble.

His stock is dropping like a rock in the European press, also. His former fan club at Der Spiegel (German mag) has BO’s pic on cover with this headline:

Schade (shame)
Obama’s failed presidency

and from die Welt (the world)
Barack Obama, the Tragic President

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
8:25 pm

Thulsa @ 5:46

Nothing wrong at all with your post and what I’m guilty and proud of the fun…….. but it isn’t a “value”

:-)

:-)

josef

June 14th, 2012
8:27 pm

The Saducees and the Pharisees would. It was their stock in trade. And I hope you won’t be too offended when I say this, but from my perspective, you often come off as their lineal descendant. You are far more concerned with the “letter of the word” when it’s in your interest to do so, and eschew the “spirit of the word” if it requires you to look more deeply into your soul. I’m not trying to be mean. It is your search and answer for the cosmic om and is just as valid as any other.

One and out...

June 14th, 2012
8:36 pm

On February 2, 2009, Barack Obama confidently announced the following performance standard for himself in an interview with NBC’s Matt Lauer:

Lauer: “At some point, will you say, ‘Wait a minute – we’ve spent this amount of money, but we’re not seeing results, we’ve got to change course dramatically’?”

Obama: “…A year from now, I think that people are going to see that we’re starting to make some progress, but there’s still going to be some pain out there. If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”

One and out... (part 2)

June 14th, 2012
8:38 pm

Unemployment has increased in the past three years from 7.8% to 8.5%, and has remained above 8% for an all-time record 36 consecutive months.

Here’s why that 8% benchmark is particularly damning. In January 2009, his administration projected at the onset of his nearly $1 trillion spending “stimulus” that unemployment would not exceed that number. The Obama Administration further projected that the 8% peak would occur all the way back in October 2009, and be down to approximately 6% today.

Instead, the U.S. has endured a record stretch of unemployment and is $1 trillion deeper in debt because of it. From canceling the Keystone XL petroleum pipeline to suing Boeing, America’s largest exporter, the Obama Administration’s own policies have directly contributed to that result.

Moreover, today’s unemployment rate doesn’t even reflect the number of Americans who have simply dropped out of the employment market and stopped looking for a job in dejection. The straightforward unemployment rate only counts those who report that they actively seek work, meaning that the rate would be closer to 12% if the number of dropouts hadn’t jumped.

barking frog

June 14th, 2012
8:39 pm

One and out
sometimes voters disagree
with Presidents..

One and out... (part 3)

June 14th, 2012
8:39 pm

Meanwhile, federal debt during Obama’s three-year performance period has increased a breathtaking 43%, from $10.6 trillion to $15.2 trillion under his brief watch. That translates to an increase from $34,731 per person three years ago to $48,699 today.

Under Obama, deficits went from being measured in “billions” to being measured in “trillions.”

In 2008, the nation’s deficit reached $455 billion, jumping to $1.4 trillion in 2009, $1.3 trillion in 2010 and $1.3 trillion again last year. Just this week, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) announced a projected $1.1 trillion deficit again this year, making it four straight trillion-plus deficits under Obama.

Other economic benchmarks have fared no better during Obama’s self-imposed performance period. Gasoline prices, which hit everyday Americans particularly hard, have almost doubled from $1.85 in January 2009 to $3.43 today. The number of poor Americans has increased by 6.4 million, from 39.8 in January 2009 to 46.2 million now, while the number of food stamp recipients has risen from 32 million to 46 million. Gross domestic product (GDP) grew an anemic 1.7% last year.

During Obama’s tenure, the U.S. has also fallen from a “Free” economy to a “Mostly Free” designation according to the worldwide Index of Economic Freedom.

One and out... (part 4)

June 14th, 2012
8:41 pm

In the face of these realities, Obama will rationalize his failure by scapegoating everyone but himself, despite the fact that a Congress controlled by his own party enacted his agenda from day one of his tenure. He can’t marshal the facts in his defense, so he will instead marshal speculation and excuse.

Three years on, he has spent a lot of other people’s money and made big government even bigger. But by his own performance metric, Obama has failed.

getalife

June 14th, 2012
8:43 pm

Four more years.

Too many sane Americans with good memories.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

June 14th, 2012
8:44 pm

We will fix this, and we will remember.
Remember who against Citizens United.
Remember who is for Citizens United.
They know the people are not with them.
Averting extinction is expensive.
And like trickle down, it doesn’t work.
Now les go surfin

getalife

June 14th, 2012
8:46 pm

Our President is telling the truth.

The cons run from it like children.

The adults are in charge.

Stay the course on job growth and never go back to a depression.

Bruno

June 14th, 2012
8:49 pm

Anyone seen JamMan around?? About time for another concert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS4FVP-uFI&feature=fvwrel

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
8:52 pm

josef @ 8:27

Much more diplomatically and eloquently than I could have ever put it.

Thanks for your ability to keep things at an even keel

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
8:55 pm

Bruno

Whats up dude? Hope you are having a great week.

Back at you with the TR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dLFj6ipqzM&feature=related

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
8:56 pm

Bruno

June 14th, 2012
8:56 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
8:58 pm

Under Obama, deficits went from being measured in “billions” to being measured in “trillions.”

Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
8:59 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NekaojZPzM&feature=related

Bruno

Think he has family in town. Probably busy and enjoying the entertaining

josef

June 14th, 2012
9:02 pm

BOTH

Thanks for the compliment. I’m not sure how deserving I am of it, though.

TaxPayer

June 14th, 2012
9:02 pm

One and Out took Kamchak’s advice.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
9:02 pm

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
9:05 pm

josef

You are most certainly welcome. I have seen when you have had your “moments”, however from a percentage stand point they are not on a regular basis. From my perception you have a great temperament that I’m sure has served you well as a teacher as well as other aspects of your life…..

Bruno

June 14th, 2012
9:07 pm

Whats up dude? Hope you are having a great week.

Just working my ass off as usual.

Had to straighten our some Lib Loser earlier today. A-ho buys a house for $180,000, then expects everyone else to bail him out when he doesn’t feel like paying his mortgage back. I can’t wait until our “Entitlement” President is shown the door this November.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
9:08 pm

One and out...

June 14th, 2012
9:08 pm

In the face of these realities, Obama will rationalize his failure by scapegoating everyone but himself, despite the fact that a Congress controlled by his own party enacted his agenda from day one of his tenure. He can’t marshal the facts in his defense, so he will instead marshal speculation and excuse.

Three years on, he has spent a lot of other people’s money and made big government even bigger. But by his own performance metric, Obama has failed.
But by his own performance metric, Obama has failed.
But by his own performance metric, Obama has failed.
But by his own performance metric, Obama has failed.
But by his own performance metric, Obama has failed.
But by his own performance metric, Obama has failed.
But by his own performance metric, Obama has failed.
has failed…
has failed…
has failed…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
9:13 pm

Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.
Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.
Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.
Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.
Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.
Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.
don’t matter…
don’t matter…
don’t matter…

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
9:15 pm

Bruno

Saw your post earlier about “manning up”. For the most part I can agree, however it is ironic that some of the same lending institutions rightfully saying the same were the ones running to Uncle Sam for bailouts due to their own malfeasance…

Not a defense for someone who bit off more than they can chew, but it shouldn’t just be the consequences for the avg joe while big banks get tax payer loans for little to no interest……… pay them back at a slower rate than the accumulate interest that they make off the money they have in the bank via the loan….

I think you have said before that you spoke out against the bailouts and loans, so not speaking to you but in general…….

For right or wrong, I’m more apt to overlook welfare on an individual level as compared to the corporate level

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
9:17 pm

Bruno

In full disclosure so you know where my bias might be. My dad grew up in a foster home with 18 brothers and sisters and welfare was certainly part of what it took to get them by…………

He left upstate New York at 18 and joined the military. Retired a Lt Col…………..

Joseph

June 14th, 2012
9:21 pm

Already in damage control over Obama’s night with Anna Wintor and Sarah Jessica Parker… LOL… Tommorrow it will be a Bush bash day…

Don't Tread

June 14th, 2012
9:21 pm

Billionaire Soros: Unlimited $$$$$$ For 0bama

“This is the world wrought by the naivete and partisanship of the Roberts court.”

No, this is what happens when you try to limit the 1st Amendment freedoms of people you don’t like and it blows up in your face.

Joseph

June 14th, 2012
9:22 pm

Hopefully they did let a peasant in to eat with them like they promised….

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
9:23 pm

Bruno

Please believe and know when we have political and policy differences, it has nothing to do with the respect I have for you and others in regards to what one has achieved, where they are at in life and what they are working towards

Towncrier

June 14th, 2012
9:27 pm

All I can say is: welcome to the world of George Soros – using your great wealth to peddle influence.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
9:28 pm

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
9:31 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
9:32 pm

All I can say is: welcome to the world of George Soros – using your great wealth to peddle influence.

The Entire Wealth of the Known Universe from Soros for Obama.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
9:35 pm

Soros opens Black Hole to Channel Wealth from all of the Unknown Universes for Obama.

Towncrier

June 14th, 2012
9:37 pm

“All I can say is: welcome to the world of George Soros – using your great wealth to peddle influence.”

Tit for tat?

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
9:37 pm

Getalife,

I’m certain that you’re really a good guy but your posts make you sound at times a bit programmed.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
9:38 pm

Recon

Yes they do……..

hahaha

:-)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
9:43 pm

Soros tears the fabric of time and space to channel all of the wealth in every dimension for Obama.

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
9:46 pm

TBS,

In fairness there are times albeit far and few between where getalife posts something that represents a cogent thought of his own. Still I think if we got to know him personally we would find him to be a likeable person.

Martin Williams

June 14th, 2012
9:47 pm

The PAC supporting Romney should have said NO to billionaire Adelson’s millions. Look what happened to Newt when Adelson supported his PAC. The billionaire is big time jinx and Romney will soon find out after the first debate. Romney cannot even make up his own mind about tax or no tax. He had signed the pledge from Grover the big time idiot that wants tax reform but has never made the attempt to run for any office.

Peacenik2012

June 14th, 2012
9:50 pm

Mormons believe, and this is proved by their doctrine (The Book of Mormon), that:

1. Jesus came to the United States in the 1800’s,
2. Jesus met with a man named Joseph Smith,
3. Jesus told Smith he was His new apostle, and
4. Jesus said the United States was the new Jerusalem.

I dare any Mormon to deny this is what they believe.
Is this what you want your children to believe?

josef

June 14th, 2012
9:50 pm

George Soros has given over $8 billion, that’s BILLION, to philanthropic causes, above and beyond his donations to political ones. His endowment to the Central European University in Budapest is the largest of its kind. His contributions to the transition of Hungary from into the world capitalist economic system is credited with that, the smoothest of them all, country’s rapid reintegration into a more unified Europe. His has put relentless pressure on the European states to respect Romany rights.

He’s no better nor no worse a manipulating capitalist than any of the others. But he does have a pretty good record of actually putting his money in places where it has had a direct and profound affect on the daily lives of the little people.

josef

June 14th, 2012
9:55 pm

PEACENIK 2012

“I dare any Mormon to deny this is what they believe.
Is this what you want your children to believe?”

Say what? Is there some conspiracy we don’t know about to forcible convert our little ones to Mormonism?

People like you are dangerous and reminiscent of the rhetorical devices being used by the Taliban and the Nazis…

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
10:03 pm

From this evening’s AJC.

So now are we going to call Obama the food stamp president or the medicaid president? The fascinating thing about this article is that it states that the medicaid deficit instate will grow to 600 million due to drumroll……….Obamacare! No doubt. The man and his boondoggle are going to bankrupt this nation.

The state Department of Community Health plans to ask the state legislature for roughly $308.2 million to make up the gap for fiscal 2013, Vince Harris, the agency’s chief financial officer, told board members.

“The looming deficit comes at a time when the state health agency is also facing the addition of another 600,000-plus Georgians to its Medicaid rolls starting in 2014, as part of the program’s expansion under the health care law.”- There’s your Obamacare impact folks!

“The budget numbers that we have are very daunting,” Commissioner David Cook said.

The health care program is also looking at a $90 million deficit for the current fiscal year. That accumulated in large part because the state legislature did not allocate funds for the final month of payments to three for-profit companies that manage care for primarily low-income kids and moms in Medicaid.

Cook estimates the annual Medicaid deficit will reach more than $600 million within three years.

Recon 0311 2533

June 14th, 2012
10:03 pm

George Soros is a very old man who once had a young Brazilian mistress. While tempting his own mortality through this relationship, old George said that while he might be too old to cut the mustard, he could still lick the jar. George Soros is a dyed in the wool socialist who has no business in this country where he’s contributed absolutely nothing.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
10:04 pm

So what was that they were saying about Obamacare was going to bring down health care costs?

crickets….crickets…..crickets….

Bruno

June 14th, 2012
10:05 pm

My dad grew up in a foster home with 18 brothers and sisters and welfare was certainly part of what it took to get them by…………

TBS–The reason I’m so harsh on able-bodied folks who take advantage of charity is that there are people who legitimately need it. Every dollar which goes to some low-life like the poster earlier is a dollar which is not available to someone who is truly in need.

Reminds me of when I dated a girl a few years ago who had a handicapped daughter. The little girl couldn’t move a muscle and lived her life in a wheelchair. I can’t tell you how many times we were unable to find a handicapped parking space because all of the spots were taken up by young, able-bodied people who scammed their way into a handicap parking sticker. You can be sure that I had some choice words for those folks when we wheeled on by. Total scum in my book.

Mr_B

June 14th, 2012
10:06 pm

“Dear Concerned Student: I’m not allowed in your schools! Signed: God””

Scout: You are welcome to show up in MY classroom at Crawford County High School and make that statement. But you’d better not make it during the first part of second period while I am praying for a good day for my students, colleagues, and members of my family, or you WILL be discussing your lack of respect with members of my school administration; who I assure you will not not be sympathetic.

Don't Forget

June 14th, 2012
10:07 pm

Well, ya know ole Adelson was against Romney before he was for him. Here’s the ad that the PAC, for which he was the largest donor, said about Romney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCmHUcP8cgE

Now he’s willing to donate “whatever it takes” to Romney??????

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
10:08 pm

Peacenik2012,

So what’s Romney’s big plan. Is he going to use executive order to place the book of mormon in the hands of every U.S. citizen? Is he going to make us all go to Mormon church?

It never ceases to amaze me how supposedly open minded, non judgemental, and non discriminatory the hard left kooks are- except when it comes to religion of course.

Bruno

June 14th, 2012
10:09 pm

So now are we going to call Obama the food stamp president or the medicaid president?

I heard that Obama is now the front runner in the Greek election, TD. Apparently they looooove their freebies.

As stated, there are some people who need help. The majority on the dole, however, are total POS who simply want someone else to pay their way. I’ve known many on a personal basis.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
10:09 pm

GEORGE SOROS IS THE ANTICHRIST!

Don't Tread

June 14th, 2012
10:09 pm

“He’s no better nor no worse a manipulating capitalist than any of the others.”

Ummm…I’ll take “worse” for $1000, Pat. Soros is a convicted criminal (insider trading, you know, the epitome of what you liberals despise). But you’re willing to overlook that little indiscretion because he’s funding your pet projects.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
10:10 pm

Don’t Forget,

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. And while Adelson may have been all Newtster during the primaries he is all about one thing right now- beating Obama.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
10:10 pm

Recon

I would say that would be the case for most of us. The banter gets heated with politics, but of course that is one of many variables that make up our thinking and who we are as individuals.

If all the “regulars” actually met up, I’d venture to say that once we broke up into “cliches”, it wouldn’t be as cut and dry as the political issues we all go back and forth with on this blog. The break out groups would probably surprise us all

Mr_B

June 14th, 2012
10:11 pm

Shalom, josef. A question, s’il vous plait. Is there a Talmudic injunction against casino gambling? I don’t know, and I usually discourage Wikipedia research by my students.

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

June 14th, 2012
10:13 pm

So why did the CIA keep the library of Congress from releasing the JFK assassination information next year? What could they be hiding?

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 14th, 2012
10:14 pm

Can I ask wtf is going on in dunwoody and Atlanta in general?

Has the place become so broke and backwards that cheap things for recreation like bike lanes are really opposed?

Appears so.

Damn. Some days I think my wife is nuts for wanting to move back.

Don't Forget

June 14th, 2012
10:14 pm

Here’s another Adelson ad from when he was against Romney, of course now he’s for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8HHe56rUto&feature=related

Bruno

June 14th, 2012
10:14 pm

“Dear Concerned Student: I’m not allowed in your schools! Signed: God””

Mr. B–Never ceases to amaze me how some folks legitimately believe that they are speaking on behalf of the Creator of the Universe simply because they read some book of fairy tales. Narcissism to the extreme.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
10:14 pm

Bruno @ 10:05

Those people are just scum, regardless of their politics……..

I wouldn’t never get to know what they thought on political issues knowing they would take a handicap spot as an able body indivdual

Southie

June 14th, 2012
10:15 pm

Ezra Klein really is trying to enunciate better today…and what a dreamboat….by age 30 he’s going to be a smart Jewish voice in liberal politics

Bruno

June 14th, 2012
10:15 pm

PB awaits patiently…..

Later, guys.

Don't Forget

June 14th, 2012
10:16 pm

Finn, some of the Warren commission findings won’t be released until 75 years after it was complete.

Don't Tread

June 14th, 2012
10:16 pm

Yep…I don’t think it was just one guy taking out JFK. There’s more going on there, for sure.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
10:17 pm

It was just the other day while I was standing in line at The Whole Foods behind this huge, fat, __________ lady with her __________ kids all wearing the latest Nikes, and all __________ kids were talking/testing on their iphones. Mom had twelve shopping carts filled with lobsters, Tbone steaks, beer, cigarettes and prom dresses.

And the worst part is, when I followed her out to her car, (Cadillac, with 24″ spinners) she was parked in a handicapped space.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
10:18 pm

Jm

I guess that would have to do with where you live in FL and what it offers compared to what you had in the ATL

Lot of great places in FL, but saving on taxes isn’t always a “saving grace” , especially if you have or had a good network, jobs as well as more important family and friends. Of course that can be found and built in FL, but a few dollars isn’t always everything….. at least in my book.

I do ok. Could move and do the same thing, but the few dollars saved elsewhere would not be my home.

Don't Forget

June 14th, 2012
10:19 pm

Thulsa, either Adelson was lying about Romney and he’s a liar or he’s telling the truth about him. Take your pick.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
10:19 pm

Bruno,

I don’t know of anyone who doesn’t believe in a basic social safety net. But the sheer numbers of people that the new health care law will move onto medicaid is just not sustainable. We can’t afford it and even if we could there’s no reason why that many Georgians should be on Medicaid at the expense of every other Georgian. I agree with you on the sheer number of them that are just looking for a free ride. I know a few of em myself that really just need a kick in the pants- not another freebie.

Obama as president of Greece? Perfect fit. As they vault towards anarchy he could spend the next decade or so telling the Greeks that its Europe’s fault that they are broke. Or better yet pin it on Turkey. That might sell.

josef

June 14th, 2012
10:20 pm

Mr B

Shalom, and funny you should ask. I was digging around on that earlier. Just like everything else Jewish, there’s a ton of opinions. This may help to answer your question.

http://davidsvoice.org/blog_post.aspx?id=495

It’s interesting that during the Inquisition in Spain, while secret prayers were being said inside a house house, several men would be outside gambling and, often, munching on a pork chop!

Gambling is often called “la malaise juive” by Jews themselves, so many of us fall prey to it.

Mr_B

June 14th, 2012
10:20 pm

Bruno:@ 10:14. Elaborate please.

Don't Forget

June 14th, 2012
10:21 pm

Kammie, bet she left the car running too.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
10:23 pm

Recon

meant to say cliques not cliches, although we might all be some sort of “cliche”

Don't Tread

June 14th, 2012
10:24 pm

“As they vault towards anarchy he could spend the next decade or so telling the Greeks that its Europe’s fault that they are broke. Or better yet pin it on Turkey. That might sell.”

Or maybe (my personal favorite 0bamaism) everything is just fine, it’s all a figment of their imaginations.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
10:25 pm

Don’t Forget,

Come on now. That’s just politics that are rough and tumble and hard things are said in primaries in both parties. Stuff like this happens with the Dems too and I’m sure you know that. Adelson wanted Newt and went after Romney hard. Now that Romney is the man its all about taking down Obama before he can do any more damage to the country.

josef

June 14th, 2012
10:25 pm

SOUTHIE

A smart Jewish voice? Elaborate, please.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
10:26 pm

Or maybe (my personal favorite 0bamaism) everything is just fine, it’s all a figment of their imaginations

Or maybe even something like, the smoking gun is the mushroom cloud?

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
10:27 pm

TD

We should know within two weeks if you are about to be a wealthy and not just a healthy man.

The Supremes should be letting us know about the ACA……… no go at all, partial or total pass, etc.

If it is a “pass”, which I doubt it will be in its entirety, you have my permission to go out an get PAID

:-)

If it is a no go……… continue to eat beenie weenies with the commoners

:-)

Mr_B

June 14th, 2012
10:28 pm

josef: In the words of Arte Shaw from “Laugh-In” , Veeeeeery interesting………..”

Don't Forget

June 14th, 2012
10:28 pm

Thulsa, so you’re saying he was lying about Romney I guess. But you’ll believe what he says about Obama?

TaxPayer

June 14th, 2012
10:29 pm

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
10:29 pm

Southie

Yes please elaborate. Why can’t he just be a smart liberal who happens to be Jewish?

Paul

June 14th, 2012
10:30 pm

Recon

“George Soros is a very old man who once had a young Brazilian mistress”

Jealous?

;-)

Thulsa

That Peace guy you were addressing – interesting you thought he was a lib. My thought is most of the people who blog here who are anti-Mormon are definitely not libs.

Mr_B

June 14th, 2012
10:32 pm

Arte Johnson, not Atre Shaw. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Don't Forget

June 14th, 2012
10:32 pm

Out for a bit.

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
10:33 pm

“Jealous?”

Haven’t seen her, so put me down as a “might be”

;-)

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
10:33 pm

State officials are in the process of redesigning Medicaid, which covers roughly 1.7 million low-income, elderly and disabled Georgians, hoping to curb costs while also improving care.

The redesign effort should help address some of the program’s financial challenges, said Cook, adding that Medicaid is growing more quickly than Georgia’s overall economy. It is expected to account for 17.5 percent of the state’s budget by 2014.

Now lets hear the intelligent liberal debate response to runaway social programs bankrupting us->

Down at whole foods I saw….

Paul

June 14th, 2012
10:33 pm

Kamchak

AND SHE PAID WITH A GIFT CARD SHE GOT FROM GEORGE SOROS!!!!!

josef

“Just like everything else Jewish, there’s a ton of opinions.”

That’s gotta be the understatement of the year.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
10:37 pm

Don’t Forget,

Where is the lie in that commercial? Bain capital tried to save and turn around many companies. Some were beyond hope and were shuttered. That’s just life. And all that commercial did was paint a negative portrait of Bain capital. But I don’t see where it out and out lied. It just told the story of one company that failed and used it to make Romney look bad. But where specifically is the lie you mention? Perhaps you can specify it exactly and we’ll go from there.

loose bowels

June 14th, 2012
10:37 pm

i speak for jay’s sissies:

Poo Poo

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
10:40 pm

TD

I’m not sure what will pass or not pass from the ACA. I for one say it could have been a better bill. No doubt about that.

With that said, it does have Repubs at least addressing the issue more than I think they have in the past. Although they fought tooth and nail…… Repubs kept saying, we have a plan, we have a plan…. more than they ever did before Obama came to town

What we end up with, I don’t know. What we have now, doesn’t work across the board. If that makes me a pinko, who cares.

Having the best doctors and technology in itself doesn’t say we have the best health care.

I’m actually hoping for a partial pass so both parties have to sit at the table. A total pass or a no pass, will get us status quo for the next several years

Paul

June 14th, 2012
10:40 pm

BOTH suck 10:33

http://tinyurl.com/6ttnxcb

It’s your call.

So much for the line “But I’ve got a daughter your age.”

More like “But I’ve got a great-granddaughter your age.”

When are these old rich guys going to learn you can avoid a lot of problems and save a lot of money by renting instead of buying?

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
10:40 pm

Paul,

I’m certain there are some cons who believe Mormons are a cult, not to be trusted, etc. But from what I’ve seen since Romney won the nomination at least a couple of times a day we usually see a snipe or 2 about Mormonism from one of the lefties on here. That’s been the experience of what I’ve seen and I believe earlier on this threat that Aquagirl or someone else made a comment about Mormonism. Bottom line is that on this blog its a pretty good bet that the overwhelming majority of bigoted comments about mormonism are coming from the left.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

June 14th, 2012
10:41 pm

Well, I wonder if this Adelson fellow has a extra two or three hundred thousand jingling around in his pocket. Maybe I could send him a e-mail and say I was really caught in a bind between voting for Obama or Romney. I could sorta hint that the trailer roof leaks and little Nathan Zell George could use some new shoes and then poor-mouth for awhile.

Who knows, maybe he’d send me a big check. I’d love to have a couple hundred thousand in the bank and then drive out to the boss’s country club and while he was putting take a big dump in the putting cup, sort of like them people at Piedmont Driving Club. Then finish it all by giving the cheap s__t the finger and telling him to stick the job up his ___.

Course, I’d need to make sure the check cleared first.

But this Adelson probly won’t send me anything. He’ll send millions to a guy that has a elevator in his house so his wife and him don’t have to walk to the car, but not a penny for a poor old redneck that hauls and lugs heavy cases of beer all day.

I reckon I better hit the sack and get rested before I need to get up and stock shelfs for you drunks bloggers so you can swap weird music tomorrow night. Have a good night everybody.

josef

June 14th, 2012
10:43 pm

PAUL

“AND SHE PAID WITH A GIFT CARD SHE GOT FROM GEORGE SOROS!!!!!”

That’s TOO good!

BOTH

I don’t recognize who “Southie” is…new one for me…a MOT? A f*ggot? We’ve only got two of them and I’m not sure me and jewcowboy are ready for another one…especially one who thinks Ezra Klein is hot… :-)

Mr. B

I knew which Artie you meant…they all sound alike, you know…

loose bowels

June 14th, 2012
10:44 pm

Tax Payer is still here?

Hillarious!

Come on tuff guy Paul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg

Bill Orvis White

June 14th, 2012
10:46 pm

So what? Governor Romney needs all the tools in his arsenal to fight the massive Obama Machine. When you add up that fact that the liberal ObamaMedia with its trillions, it is a tough fight for an honorable, pragmatic, conservative like Governor Romney. MOST OF RATIONAL-THINKING AMERICA DOES NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PATRIOTS LIKE ADELSON! GET OVER THE FACT THAT HUSSEIN OBAMA HAS FAILED ON EVERY LEVEL. YES, THIS IS A ONE-TERM PROPOSITION AND MOST FOLK HERE WILL AGREE THAT IT WAS ONE TERM TOO MANY. I PRAY THAT WE WILL NOT MAKE THIS MISTAKE AGAIN. I thought that we learned from the mistake of Jimmah Carter – what with a nation that sat there and gloated along with the liberal media that a doltish peanut farmer was such an outsider. WHAT A JOKE! Jimmah, just like Hussein was weak-kneed and failed miserably. BUT WHAT HAPPENED? President Reagan was rightfully elected. He didn’t whine. He didn’t keep blaming failed, liberal Jimmah. President Reagan did the right thing by rightfully cutting taxes and spurring the longest period of economic growth in world history. Don’t give me this crap about how Pres. Reagan raised taxe$. Any tax increase that happened on His watch was the work of that fat drunk from Taxachusetts. Pres. Reagan’s cuts STILL OUTWEIGHED THOSE INCREASES! I’m tired of the liberal media falsely painted the successful Reagan Record! WE NEED TO GET BACK TO REAGANOMICS AND THE CLOSEST THING THAT WILL HAPPEN WILL BE ROMNEYNOMICS COMING TO YOUR PLACE OR TOWN IN JANUARY 2013! FREEDOM WILL BE BACK TO OUR SOIL IN JANUARY 2013!
GOOD NIGHT!
AMEN,
BILL

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
10:46 pm

Paul

Just messing with you on the “jealous” deal.
With that said, I would have thought she would have been a SUPER HOTTIE, not just an ok hottie.

Guess he his popping those “blue diamonds” like pez candy. Heck he may just watch

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
10:46 pm

josef

Don’t recall the name either. Thought the post was a little strange

Paul

June 14th, 2012
10:48 pm

Thulsa

I did posted some remarks earlier today by Sen Harry Reid on how he thinks being Mormon is more compatible with being a Democrat than being a Republican. Maybe that freaked out some on the Left?

Whatever happened to live and let live?

I may post this again, but it does, for me, pretty well lay out the fears many have regarding LDS (Mormons).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTyQr-U_bJE

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
10:48 pm

they both suck,

There are actually some things about ACA which I fully support- in particular the removal of a lifetime cap on coverage, the medical loss ratios, etc. I just think I would have structured it much differently and more similarly to the workers comp high risk pools.

I would have structured penalties for not having insurance differently also. If someone is young and didn’t want to pay for at least a catastrophic coverage I woulda said fine. Don’t carry it. But if you get sick then the govt will step in and provide for your care. And then 5% of your paycheck is going to be garnished the rest of your life until the medical debt you ran up is paid off similar to student loan debt which has to be repaid no matter what. I would put a cap on that rule that I just mentioned but I would want it known that if you choose to gamble there are consequences and repercussions to pay if you get sick and john q taxpayer has to provide for you.

Dirty Dawg

June 14th, 2012
10:48 pm

As I’ve said, one of my fondest wishes is to wake up Nov 7 to the news that these billionaire SOBs backing Republicans will have pissed away a billion or more dollars and not only that it was for nothing the IRS tells em that none of it is deductible…even as a gambling loss.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
10:49 pm

josef:

1) Regarding my position on doctrine:

II Timothy 4:2 “Proclaim the message; persist in it whether convenient or not; rebuke, correct, and encourage with great patience and teaching.”

2) Regarding the Gospel itself:

Let’s put it this way …………. when it comes to eternity (the only thing that really counts) Jesus was as narrow minded as it gets:

“I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through Me.”

“Except you believe in Me, you are dead in your sins.”

josef

June 14th, 2012
10:51 pm

THULSA
@ 10:40

I’m not so sure I’d go for the “overwhelming majority,” but I’ll go for an uncomfortably high percentage without argument…

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
10:52 pm

TD

It ended up being politics as usual. Obama was hell bent on passing something and the Repubs were hell bent on it not passing. There are some things in the ACA that did come from Republicans eventhough many on the right would say it was an all Democratic bill. They got what they could and then voted NO.

Would have been much better if both sides came to the table with open minds and realistic ideas and policy. But it wouldn’t be DC if they had done that

barking frog

June 14th, 2012
10:52 pm

Scout
but..but..translators!

Jm

June 14th, 2012
10:53 pm

TBS 10:18 – I just scratch my head at how backwards Atlanta is…… that’s all

td

June 14th, 2012
10:54 pm

You libs need to stop whining about outside money. Outside influence is all over the place. It looks like one of the biggest Hollywood directors was behind the third party Bain attacks on Romney. Now tell us how much is this worth?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/06/14/Spielberg-Bain-Obama

josef

June 14th, 2012
10:55 pm

SCOUT
The problem, as I see it, is that you have arrogated yourself the position of deciding what is and what is not “kosher…” I mean no disrespect by it, it’s your path to enlightenment. But there are many roads and yours is not the only one…

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
10:55 pm

Paul,

I believe their religion is wrong but that’s a different discussion seeing as how every Catholic or every different Protestant sect thinks their faith is the real deal. As for the rank and file everyday Mormon you won’t find more honest and decent people on average than Mormons. Those folks are generally honest to a fault. And they are not cultists either of course.

Nice music in that video. Reminds me of the music of a certain movie years back starring a certain feller named James Earl Jones who played a really cool character. Doomy do love that music he do.

Dr. Pangloss

June 14th, 2012
10:56 pm

So a man who became insanely rich by exploiting people’s weaknesses and poor judgment can buy the presidency for Romney? Isn’t it great to live in a democracy plutocracy?

They BOTH suck

June 14th, 2012
10:57 pm

Happy early Father’s Day to anyone who will not be on tomorrow or will not be online when I salute the fathers. Hope you enjoy your weekend

Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow.

Jm

June 14th, 2012
10:57 pm

I mean, opposing bike lanes? What’s next, opposing the Salvation Army?

Jm

June 14th, 2012
10:57 pm

TBS – same to you

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 14th, 2012
10:57 pm

OH NOES! IT’S BREITBART.COM

I’m melting…melting…melting….

josef

June 14th, 2012
10:59 pm

Brother Bill…

Where you been? It just ain’t been the same without you around.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
11:02 pm

loose

No one can stand up to the honey badger.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
11:04 pm

josef,

How bouts I redefine “overwhelming majority” to be 50.5%? Seriously I’ve yet to see a con on here make a deragotory comment about Mormons. I’m sure its happened. I just haven’t seen it. But it just seems like I see it everyday at least once or twice daily from the far left on here. Not the reasonable liberals on here of course but the kook left.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
11:05 pm

Oh noes. td threw the breitbard card at kamchak.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
11:08 pm

“Would have been much better if both sides came to the table with open minds and realistic ideas and policy.”

they both suck, Well now we are talking bout pollyticians here.

” But it wouldn’t be DC if they had done that”.

Truer words were never spoken.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
11:08 pm

Thulsa

Thinking of the soundtrack to Hunt for Red October? Same music Sean Hannity used to play. Don’t know if he still does or not.

I really cracked up the time I found it on a CD by the Russian Red Army Choir. Sounded exactly like Hannity’s version.

Both Suck

My sister and brother in law are coming up this weekend with my folks.

Dad’s 88.

Still works every day.

It’ll be a nice weekend.

Then off to see Mrs. Paul’s dad. He’s 92, lives by himself and is charging strong.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
11:09 pm

Thulsa

Forgot – the title is O Fortuna.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
11:11 pm

josef:

“But there are many roads and yours is not the only one…”

It’s not “my” road.

I didn’t pick it.

In fact, if it were left up to me I would allow many roads. I wouldn’t want ANYONE to spend eternity without God.

But ………………… I don’t make the rules ……… He does.

And He claimed to be the ONLY way. So, we are back to square one:

LIAR
LUNATIC
or
LORD

Your free choice.

I’ve made mine.

TaxPayer

June 14th, 2012
11:11 pm

Breitbart! Isn’t he that guy that died at a rather early age. I wonder if he had decent health insurance that covered preventive care.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
11:12 pm

barking frog:

“Scout
but..but..translators!”

Learn Greek and read it for yourself then. Eternity is THAT important.

Paul

June 14th, 2012
11:14 pm

Okay, time to head back.

Based on our earlier discussion, this one’s for you, Thulsa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ-kvoX1FGo#t=00m50s

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
11:19 pm

“President Obama’s Speech Gets A Thumbs Down From Political Press Corps”

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
11:21 pm

“Prime Minister David Cameron warned Argentina on Thursday that London stood “ready and willing” to defend the Falkland Islands, 30 years after Britain recaptured the South Atlantic archipelago whose sovereignty remains a hotly contested issue.”

What’s up with the Argentinians? Are they looking to open another can of “whoop-ass” ?

Josef

June 14th, 2012
11:21 pm

All three kids and their families…

Josef

June 14th, 2012
11:23 pm

Fine…except Jesus and thud apostles spoke Aramaic…

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
11:28 pm

“I wonder if he had decent health insurance that covered preventive care.”- Taxpayer

Preventive care is mandated in most states. But then you knew that of course right?

Doesn’t surprise me that you would take to mocking a dead man. Stay classy taxpayer. Stay classy.

Thulsa Doom

June 14th, 2012
11:32 pm

Paul,

I may have to start listening to Hannity if he plays music like that. But I grow weary of him real quick even if I do largely agree with him. I couldn’t remember it from hunt for red october either. That’s cool music and I’ve seen it in various commercials, programs, etc. but never knew where it came from. Thanks much.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 14th, 2012
11:42 pm

josef:

“Fine…except Jesus and thud apostles spoke Aramaic…”

………….. and the apostles wrote the N.T. in Greek as that language was the “English” of its day.

G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)

June 14th, 2012
11:44 pm

Happy Fathers Day to Jay, Josef, & all fathers on the blog. I lost my dad about 20 years ago & can only hope that he connected with my mom when she died just a few years ago. Yeah, I still miss them both. Dad taught me to throw a football & a baseball; Mom taught me to bake a pie. Both modeled strength and love. I regret that I never got to tell my dad that, but I did get to tell Mom.

Kam, I do not know if you are a father, but you are a delight for me; my dad loved puns & word play. He would have enjoyed you as I do.

Okay, I am out for tonight.
Okay,

ken

June 15th, 2012
12:46 am

Jay, how much union slush money goes to the democrats ? And some of that money comes from republican union members that have no say so as to where their money goes.

Shine

June 15th, 2012
2:02 am

Poor thing. In Forbes 2009 world billionaires list, his ranking dropped to #178 with a net worth of $3.4 billion, but in 2011 he was ranked as the world’s 16th richest man with a net worth of $23.3 billion.

52.^ “The World’s Billionaires 2009″. Forbes. March 11, 2009.
53.^ “Sheldon Adelson”. Forbes. September 2011. Retrieved January 25, 2012.

This poor creature under the heavy hand of regulation and government intrusion only made 20 billion dollars while Obama has been president.

Lets all say a prayer for better times for this whining ungrateful pathetic billionaire.

Bruno

June 15th, 2012
2:07 am

Bruno:@ 10:14. Elaborate please.

Mr. B–Sorry to get back so late. I’ll have to trust that my answer will get to you somehow, someway.

Point blank, I find Scout to be both annoying and misguided when he comes out with crap like his 11:11 post:

“But ………………… I don’t make the rules ……… He does.

And He claimed to be the ONLY way. So, we are back to square one”

The annoying part of his statement is pretty easy to illustrate. To claim to speak for the Creator of the Universe, as I mentioned earlier, is beyond arrogant. It’s downright pathological in my opinion. No matter how often Scout, and others like him, point to the Bible as the source of their statements, the source of their authority, in the end we can only speak for ourselves. To assume some kind of Divine Authority via tossing around Bible quotes is to claim Divine Authorship. I may be going out on a limb here, but I don’t place Scout, or any other human, at that level of existence.

The misguided part of his statement is a little harder to explain, but it has to do with the fallacy of believing in a single pathway to experiencing Absolute Truth ( = the Buddha = the Tao = God). By its very nature, the Absolute is contradictory, encompassing both Good and Evil, Light and Dark, Right and Wrong, the One and the Many. As such, there is no single, fixed set of words which can completely capture the Spirit of the Absolute, and no single set of rules which can guide our conduct in every conceivable situation. At best, we can keep a recognition of the duality of the Absolute in mind at all times, and keep our customs and rules flexible enough so that we can best adapt to an ever-changing reality.

The failure of Modern Christianity, IMO, is in pushing the concept of being “saved”. As much as we would like to have a permanent “Get Out of Jail Free” card, there is none to be had, no matter how much “faith” we have, no matter how often we attend church or how much we toss into the collection plate. Buddhists are prone to the same error by aspiring to some sort of permanent “enlightenment”. Or even aspiring to some form of temporary “enlightenment”. At best, we can live in the moment and see things as they really are, not as we wish them to be. To aspire for any other state of being means that we’re lost.

Just my two cents, as always.

marko

June 15th, 2012
6:01 am

At this point, it’s a foregone conclusion that Romney’s going to outspend Obama. So what? Rich people tend to suffer from Steinbrenner’s disease. Old George always led the league in payrolls. Championships? Not so much. Go ahead throw around your money around and show everybody what a big deal you are. After all it’s not like you were going to create jobs or with it.

Trump, Steinbrenner, Adelson, Why are so many rich people crazy as hell?

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
6:09 am

mornin’.

OK, I ctrl-F’d the thread, and no lie–there are actually 13 genuine conservo-posts that say in essence “but SOROS!”

…and, of course, which entirely miss the point (on purpose? probably) Jay and every other intelligent, rational critic of the SCOTUS’ Citizens United horrorshow have been making for years, now.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 15th, 2012
6:12 am

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 15th, 2012
6:34 am

Interesting…

Breaking from Newsmax.com

Gallup: Most Blame Bush for Economy

About two-thirds of Americans believe Republican former President George W. Bush is responsible for the nation’s struggling economy, with a smaller percentage blaming Democratic President Barack Obama, a Gallup poll showed on Thursday.

About 68 percent of the more than 1,000 adults surveyed nationwide said Bush, who left office in January 2009, deserves a “moderate amount” or a “great deal” of the blame for the U.S. economic woes compared to 52 percent who pointed to his successor Obama, the poll found.

The results were released as Obama prepared to give a major economic speech later on Thursday as part of his campaign to win re-election on Nov. 6. He is seeking to convince voters that his economic remedies are working and that his Republican rival Mitt Romney’s policies would trigger an economic crisis.

Poll respondents who identified themselves as Republicans were split, with 49 percent saying Bush deserved a moderate amount or great deal of the blame while 51 percent said Bush deserved not much of the blame or none at all. They expressed even more blame for Obama, however, with 83 percent holding him largely responsible for the state of the economy, the poll found.

Among Democrats, 90 percent blamed Bush for the weak economy and only 19 percent said Obama should carry much of the blame, according to the poll, conducted by telephone June 7 to 10.

“Republicans, in short, are significantly more willing to blame their most recent Republican president than are Democrats willing to blame Obama,” Gallup said.

Independent voters, who could play a critical role in the November election, were more likely to blame Bush (67 percent) than Obama (51 percent). Fewer independents blamed Obama than Gallup’s last results in September, when 60 percent pointed to him, the poll found.

Many Americans are still struggling to recover financially from the nation’s deepest recession since the Great Depression of the 1930s, and Obama is trying to regroup after recent setbacks, including an anemic May jobs report.

“Americans continue to place more blame for the nation’s economic problems on George W. Bush than on Barack Obama, even though Bush left office more than three years ago,” Gallup said. “This suggests that Obama’s argument that he is on the right track and needs more time to turn the economy around could fall on receptive ears, particularly those of independents.”

Bush, who served two four-year terms as president, has been unable to shake the blame since Gallup began tracking the economic finger-pointing in 2009, and has seen about 70 percent of those polled holding him responsible since mid-2010.

Critics say Bush’s tax cuts combined with increased spending to fight two wars, among other costs, helped plunge the nation into a deep economic crisis.

The poll had a maximum margin of sampling error of plus-or-minus 4 percentage points.

© 2012 Thomson/Reuters. All rights reserved.

TaxPayer

June 15th, 2012
6:54 am

Going Once! Going Twice! Whack!

And the proud new owner of the GOP issssssss, Sheldon Adelson. Has anyone broke the news to the Kochs and the other billionaires in search of party favors. I was actually hoping for more of a bidding war. As it stands, the GOP came out looking like a pack of cheap hookers rather than high class prostitutes. Even secret service agents have higher standards.

Tundra Dude

June 15th, 2012
7:08 am

Even secret service agents have higher standards

Imo, if they had higher IQ’s they’d have learned to get serviced in secret…..

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
7:08 am

the GOP came out looking like a pack of cheap hookers rather than high class prostitutes.

Grand Old Party, indeedy.

TaxPayer

June 15th, 2012
7:14 am

Gretchen Carlson walked off the set of “Fox and Friends” on Thursday after fellow host Brian Kilmeade made a sexist comment.

The two were watching third host Steve Doocy interview a member of a Navy band which had been all-male until 1980.

“Women are everywhere,” Kilmeade said. “We’re letting them play golf and tennis now. It’s out of control.”

With that, Carlson was out of her seat.

“You know what?” she said, walking away. “You know what? You read the headlines, since men are so great. Go ahead.”

“Finally!” Kilmeade said, adding, “leaving an all-male crew.”

“In all your glory, go for it!” Carlson said. As she departed, Kilmeade cracked, “eh, she needed a shower.”

Tell me it ain’t so!

Sarah Gee

June 15th, 2012
7:16 am

If a few million dollars will help get Obama out of office, I am for it!

killerj

June 15th, 2012
7:23 am

Goldman & Sachs better step it up for Obama and give some of the tax payers money back in the biggest scam pulled off in America.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
7:26 am

Tell me it ain’t so!

meh, probably staged, to try to make Fox and Fiends simulate humanity.

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
7:26 am

dB @ 6:09

Only 13??? Sounds like there has been a mass dropping of the ball. That’s only a bit more than 1 mention per page. :)

TiredOfIt

June 15th, 2012
7:34 am

So this is why the rich need more tax breaks.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
7:36 am

To get serious for just a second, I don’t WANT an Obama to be beholden to a Soros, or any specific individual benefactor.

Moreover, to repeat what I said earlier, I really really really do not want small-time congresscritters to be subject to threats and intimidation from enormous financial interests that can run endless attack ads in the heartland from anonymous front groups.

I really do wonder how many of these folks who are a-ok with Citizens United are even aware that Republicans have blocked efforts to legislate at least sufficient transparency so that people in these districts know where the damn money is coming from.

Jack

June 15th, 2012
7:41 am

This is the world wrought by the naivete and partisanship of misguided liberals.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 15th, 2012
7:43 am

Oh look! Jack made a funny… :roll:

gm

June 15th, 2012
7:44 am

Yet dumb middle class, poor whites really think Willard and his friends care about middle class Americans.
Gordon Gekko(Willard) if elected are going to suck middle class America dry, poor rep whites listens to rich scum like Hannity, Rush who are counting on them to make the fat cats richer, talking about a bunch of idiots on the right wow””””

Gale

June 15th, 2012
7:45 am

There was an early comment about “when voters start paying attention.” I think that is likely to be never. I do find that when a campaign gets too negative, voters start ignoring the ads.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
7:45 am

Something from Mitt’s speech yesterday that I heard sound-bitten, wanted to go listen to it in some context… the quote below, obviously, is emphasis-mine:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/06/romney-delivers-prebuttal-to-obama-speech/1#.T9senZiD_g0

“I’ve been talking to small employers and and big employers, and I hear day in and day out, they FEEL this administration sees them as their enemy. They FEEL that the Obama policies have made it harder for them to put people back to work. Almost everything the President has done, has made it harder for them to start a business.”

This might be handy to keep in mind next time a conservative tells you that it’s the liberals are all about manipulating emotion, all about feelings.

It’s also handy to note that Romney is basing his economic message on pulled-out-of-his-butt, unverifiable nonsense.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
7:47 am

Oh look! Jack made a funny…

It was worth the 16 hour wait, wasn’t it?

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June 15th, 2012
7:47 am

gm

June 15th, 2012
7:44 am

Yep, It’s like I keep saying…There are two kinds of Republicans, The Rich and The Duped.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
7:49 am

I do find that when a campaign gets too negative, voters start ignoring the ads.

I disagree. A long, sustained barrage of negative attack ads is certainly enough to steer an election, particularly if the person being attacked doesn’t have the wherewithal to counter them with attack ads of his/her own. You may not turn everyone, but you can turn a 5-10% of the “independent” or “swing” voters (those are nice words for “dumb”) without a lot of effort.

If it’s even somewhat close, not a runaway, you can buy an election.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
7:53 am

Pretty appropriate though, isn’t it, that this Romney benefactor Adelson made his billions by robbing small-time individuals in rigged games?

Gale

June 15th, 2012
7:54 am

dB, Yes, I do agree with that. One-sided attacks will have an impact. I was thinking of mud-slinging on both sides. True, however, that deep pockets on one side can sway the voters. It is a pity it takes lies to do that. “Lies” might be a strong word for that. Unsubstantiated claims is better. The masses are used to getting their news from talk show hosts; entertainers, not journalists.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

June 15th, 2012
7:57 am

Bunch of whiny babies….like President Trillions would turn down such cash…he’s changed nothing…only fueled the status quo..

OBIWAN

June 15th, 2012
7:57 am

I am so glad George Soros, with his limitless cash did nothing for extreme liberal causes, oh wait he gave 100’s of millions…

bman

June 15th, 2012
7:58 am

“The masses are used to getting their news from talk show hosts; entertainers, not journalists.”

Who should the masses watch/listen to for the “news” ? What’s your source for info?

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
7:58 am

am so glad George Soros, with his limitless cash

ok it’s 14 now. Do I hear 15?

Mick

June 15th, 2012
7:59 am

Good morning from plano texas! On my way to wichita for a long overdue vacation…
Citizens united, one of the worst modern day court decisions in my lifetime! That’s right alito you friggin fool…

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
8:00 am

President Trillions

Stevie, I have a serious question. Are educable, or are you completely close minded?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

June 15th, 2012
8:00 am

Human Rights,

Same rich and duped applies to DEMs as well…let’s see, rock star president hanging with the stars…talk about rich and duped…what about labor, clean energy…all duped and mostly rich.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 15th, 2012
8:01 am

From Wiki

“In February 2012, Adelson told Forbes Magazine that he’s “against very wealthy ­people attempting to or influencing elections. But as long as it’s doable I’m going to do it”

Ya’ know with that kind of thought process we might just get a few people to stand behind old Shelly and casually mention that they are all planning to jump off a cliff.

If he’ll do whatever everybody is doing…..just saying….

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

June 15th, 2012
8:01 am

Stands,

I’ve run out of patience for President Spineless…too bad the alternative doesn’t excite me either. If you feel like you can educate me please to same asap….don’t want to fall into the duped category.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 15th, 2012
8:02 am

Rock Star President?

Affection envy!!!!!

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:03 am

Can’t help but notice Peadawg never answered my question about what bills Obama has signed that he should “take responsibility for” that have caused massively negative results on the economy and jobs. Just a hint: “If you can’t figure it out I can’t help you” is not an answer, and it also ignores that I’m asking for information genuinely. In essence, it’s avoidance.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:03 am

As if obama is the first to hang with celebrities? Damn, when you are the president you are in some rarified air – it goes with the turf and so what anyways…

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:05 am

President spineless??
Tell that whopper to bin laden and all those who have been droned….

bman

June 15th, 2012
8:07 am

Mick
June 15th, 2012
8:05 am

President spineless??
Tell that whopper to bin laden and all those who have been droned….

Bill Maher (the million dollar man) would call it spineless….if Obama had an R by his name :-)

bob

June 15th, 2012
8:08 am

Only Obama should be able to raise money and only unions and George Soros should be able to donate money.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
8:08 am

I’ve run out of patience for President Spineless

ok, honestly, that pet name doesn’t especially bother me. I disagree, but at least you can make a case that he could’ve been more courageous here or there.

It’s the “President Trillions” name that, frankly, has me thinking you haven’t really thought it out. I’m assuming you’re upset that the debt burden has increased by ~5 trillion or so since he took office, and that’s why he gets the name?

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:08 am

Aaawwww Adam is begging for attention. Begging for someone to respond to him. How cute.

Glad to know you’re thinking about me, punkin. But I’m married.

I’ll throw ya a bone Adam…the tax cut extensions.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

June 15th, 2012
8:08 am

Mick,

Seems to me the hanging out with celebrities with material frequency is the exclusive territory of liberals…Clinton, Barry, Kennedy…of course, with possible exception to John Voight, the all lean (or fall) on liberal side…Granny I’m not sure what affection envy is but learned long ago that responding to more than one of your brilliant postings a day is a waste of time.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

June 15th, 2012
8:11 am

Stands,

I respect your opinion but the deficit scares me, the failed stimulus scares me and the concept of “trillions” of dollars has never been mentioned with more frequency in prior presidencies….he, like congress et al have zero respect for out tax dollars….relection is prime objective….

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 15th, 2012
8:11 am

Stevie ray

I’m sure. It is envy.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:12 am

Peadawg: The tax cut extensions that were bundled with unemployment extensions and other measures to help people get back on their feet so they could get a job, after which there were consecutive months of private sector job growth? THOSE tax cut extensions?

bob

June 15th, 2012
8:13 am

adam, the healthcarte bill was signed by Obama and it seems as though employers are waiting it out before they hire. We are told that corp America is sitting on more wealth than ever, why are they sitting on it if they like Obama’s vision. When Obama paid off the UAW and screwed the bondholders in the bailout big biz also took notice. If these bills were so good why are we still above the 8% unemployment that Obama said we would never even get to if he got his 800 billion in stimulus ?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

June 15th, 2012
8:13 am

Stands,

Gotta jump….catch you later. Will read your response later today. Behave:-)

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:14 am

Krugman nails it yet again…the guy is a terrific analyst…

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:15 am

adam, the healthcarte bill was signed by Obama and it seems as though employers are waiting it out before they hire

Doesn’t look like it to any serious person looking at the state of affairs. Companies are hiring, government (of which at least the military’s healthcare plan, TRICARE, is exempted) is not hiring.

So nice try.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
8:16 am

Stevie, have a good one, and I might wait to formulate a proper response until I know you’re back, because those are excellent concerns for adults to discuss.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:16 am

When Obama paid off the UAW and screwed the bondholders in the bailout big biz also took notice

By making GM successful? Big biz took notice of that and said “I’m not hiring now!”? Fat chance.

independent thinker

June 15th, 2012
8:17 am

I wonder how many right wing Supreme Court Justices will attend the Koch Brothers summit in San Diego next week so that they can get their marching orders?You got get some return on your money when you spend over 300 million.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:18 am

above the 8% unemployment that Obama said we would never even get to if he got his 800 billion in stimulus

He never said that actually. That was a CBO (non-partisan, from Congress) projection based on the idea that the economy wasn’t tanking as much as it did.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:19 am

BTW, the tax cut extension is ONE bill, a big one that has more in it, and STILL doesn’t make your point. So you’re 0 for 1 so far Peadawg.

But I’ll throw ya a bone ;) What else?

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:20 am

“The tax cut extensions that were bundled wit”

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:22 am

Peadawg: BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

Awwww poor Peadawg doesn’t want to eat his peas!

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:22 am

Adam, you’ll make every excuse that comes into that wittle mind of yours to cover for Obama caving and signing the tax cut extension for millionaires.

Carry on.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:24 am

Peadawg: And you’ll do whatever it takes to avoid the question because there’s really no actual answer to it. He has signed exactly ZERO bills that have caused a massively negative effect on the economy and jobs.

But your concession that the tax cuts are bad policy in general is noted.

Dems_R_Idiots

June 15th, 2012
8:26 am

“Gordon Gekko(Willard) if elected are going to suck middle class America dry…”

Yes, Obama has done such a wonderful job with the middle-class.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:27 am

“And you’ll do whatever it takes to avoid the question ” – Just b/c you don’t like the answer I’ve given you doesn’t the answer isn’t valid.

“But your concession that the tax cuts are bad policy in general is noted.” – You keep repeating that like it means something. I’ve said the tax cuts for millionaires were bad for a while now.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:28 am

Yes, Obama has done such a wonderful job with the middle-class.

Yes, Romney would do so much better! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:28 am

“I am so glad George Soros, with his limitless cash did nothing for extreme liberal causes, oh wait he gave 100’s of millions…”

Time to invoke Kamchak’s Observation: ““If we’re just gonna make sh*t up, no sense in being half-assed about it.”

BW

June 15th, 2012
8:29 am

In the words of Darth Sidious…Unlimited Power!!!!

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:30 am

Mick!

You’re, like 15 miles away!

You’ve heading into a narrow band of thunderstorms.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:30 am

Just b/c you don’t like the answer I’ve given you doesn’t the answer isn’t valid.

I explained why the answer isn’t valid, and nowhere in my explanation was “I don’t like the answer.” You just make that assumption because you have your own blinders on when it comes to politicians in general. You want to focus only on what they’ve done that sucks, ignoring the rest. Being equal about that doesn’t mean you have a better perspective.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
8:30 am

If you follow the logic that a candidate who spends hundreds of millions of dollars is fiscally and economically responsible, you must also believe that maxing out your credit cards and overdrawing your bank account makes you a good saver. :)

Dems_R_Idiots

June 15th, 2012
8:32 am

“He never said that actually. That was a CBO (non-partisan, from Congress) projection based on the idea that the economy wasn’t tanking as much as it did.”

Obama’s top economic advisers stated this not the CBO.

St Simons - codewords are the new black

June 15th, 2012
8:33 am

‘Soros’, ‘Speilberg’, ‘Oblamo’

Rush, 6/14, 1st hour. Not an original thought among them. Sad, really.
ajc should get a commision for publishing EIB transcripts
now les go surfin hahaha

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:34 am

Anyone else find it ironic Republicans love a guy who spends more than anyone else?

“I’m gonna vote for the guy who spends the most money ’cause he knows that’s what it takes to fix the economy!”

td

June 15th, 2012
8:34 am

gm

June 15th, 2012
7:44 am

“Yet dumb middle class, poor whites really think Willard and his friends care about middle class Americans.”

And yet dumb African Americans believe that Obama is their friend. The highest unemployment rate, the highest foreclosure rate and not one single program to help. All they get is people like Al and Jesse (field bosses) telling them is Obama is the best thing that has ever happened to the African American community and Obama cares about them. All this while at the same time Obama keeps giving these government loans to his rich white progressive friends to start their alternative energy companies.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:34 am

“I explained why the answer isn’t valid” – I didn’t explain jack sh*t. All you did was make excuses.

And yes, I focus on Obama caving on millionaires’ tax cuts extension and not the other fluffy stuff that you use to make excuses for his lack-of backbone.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:35 am

“Obama’s top economic advisers stated this not the CBO.”

So you admit Obama himself didn’t say it. Thanks.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:36 am

Obama’s top economic advisers stated this not the CBO.

Fair, but they also stated this in the same report:

It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the obvious uncertainty that comes from modeling a hypothetical package rather than the final legislation passed by the Congress. But, there is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program.

Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity.

Mighty Righty

June 15th, 2012
8:36 am

Jay has lost it. This piece is evidence of a disjointed thought process. Billionaire donors and the Roberts Court? Really.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:37 am

So you admit Obama himself didn’t say it. Thanks.

LOL good catch

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:37 am

I didn’t explain jack sh*t

True.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:38 am

paul

Yes….plano is very interesting…saw a glam rock heavy metal band at sambucca 360 – they killed it but alas with the long hair and spandex, they are decades behind the times, what r u doing for lunch?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:39 am

All you did was make excuses.

If you call it an excuse to acknowledge that the bill in question contained more than tax cuts and did not, itself, after being signed at any point, cause massively negative effects on the economy and jobs. Reasonable people would call that looking at a bigger picture.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:39 am

:)

Typo @ 8:35 but you know what I meant.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:41 am

“If you call it an excuse to acknowledge ” – again, blah blah blah blah.

“did not….cause massively negative effects on the economy and jobs. ” – So you’re saying the tax cut extension for millionaires was good for the economy and jobs? Make up your mind.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:43 am

Peadawg: You know that’s not what I’m saying. That is, if you actually read what I’m saying and get out of the “focus only on the negative” box. The bill had more in it than tax cuts. Can you name all of what was in it?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 15th, 2012
8:46 am

Billionaire donors and the Roberts Court? Really.

Really

From John Amato
January 2011

When the conservative financier Charles Koch sent out invitations for a political retreat in Palm Springs later this month, he highlighted past appearances at the gathering of “notable leaders” like Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas of the Supreme Court.

AND

From Sourcewatch

(According to Salon, “Thomas claimed he just made “a brief drop-by” at the Koch brothers’ January 2008 Palm Springs political retreat to give a talk; in fact he was reimbursed for four days of “transportation, meals and accommodations” by the Federalist Society.[56]“

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:46 am

” You know that’s not what I’m saying. ”

You typed it @ 8:39.

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:46 am

Mick

You’re still in town?

I won’t go into all that’s on my plate but I’m open for that.

HDB

June 15th, 2012
8:47 am

td

June 15th, 2012
8:34 am
gm

June 15th, 2012
7:44 am

“Yet dumb middle class, poor whites really think Willard and his friends care about middle class Americans.”

And yet dumb African Americans believe that Obama is their friend.”

Have you even considered that African Americans thought that Obama was better than the alternative?? Have you ever asked any of them about their perspective….or is your ASSumption showing???

BTW, many of us are BETTER off than we were under Bush….and that’s the primary interest that we’re voting for!! The last time a businessman ran the US, he nearly ran it INTO THE GROUND!!!

Mighty Righty

June 15th, 2012
8:47 am

Obama outlined his “NEW” forward looking program to fix the economy. One) Borrow more money. Two) Spend more money. Three) Restrict business with more regulations. Four) Increase taxes. Five) Blame Bush. Six) Blame Congress Seven) Renew the Obama tax cuts. (Please note the Obama tax cuts were the Bush tax cuts that Obama approved to stimulate the economy while saying tax cuts won’t stimulate the economy. I know this is evidence of schizophrenia but the facts speak for themselves)

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:48 am

Mick

I’m in Flower Mound – just to the west and south of Plano – 121 crosses I35, just southwest of Lewisville.

massachusetts refugee 10.167.4.48

June 15th, 2012
8:48 am

since i have no desire to wade thru 13 pages of comments, please excuse me if this has already been assked, but…aren’t the democrats free to create and contribute untold milllions to their own super-pacs??? so why the outrage, jay?

TaxPayer

June 15th, 2012
8:48 am

Yep, It’s like I keep saying…There are two kinds of Republicans, The Rich and The Duped.

What if they start inbreeding.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:49 am

paul

yes, here until saturday…the place I’m near is legacy…got a great studio room for $69 a night with efficeny – excellent,,,

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 15th, 2012
8:49 am

Romney outlined his new plan to fix the economy:

Bush Policies

Proud to be me

June 15th, 2012
8:50 am

The continuing saga of pitting the rich against the rich! Yes, I said the rich against the rich!!! Anyone with half a brain knows that Jay is trying to play the devil’s advocate here. When 95% of all of the Hollywood elites (gag) support ANY liberal that comes along and others like W. Buffet also supports the liberals (in this case Obama). . . then tell me why Jay would be pointing his finger at those who would support Romney! All we could hear in the last Presidential campaign is how much money Obama collected for his campaign. Give me a break! Jay put your big boy pants on and get over it.

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
8:50 am

Seems to me the hanging out with celebrities with material frequency is the exclusive territory of liberals…Clinton, Barry, Kennedy…of course, with possible exception to John Voight, the all lean (or fall) on liberal side…

Definitely not intended to be anywhere near a factual statement…

http://usconservatives.about.com/od/hollywoodconservatives/a/HollywoodCons.htm

Below is a list of Tinseltown celebs who make no bones about their conservative commitments. The list is growing, and each week one of these Hollywood celebrities will be profiled — complete with a breakdown of their conservative credentials. Some you’ll know. Others might surprise you. Either way, enjoy … and know that if you’re a conservative, you’re not alone (even though it might feel like it sometimes)!
•Trace Adkins: Country Music Singer & TV Personality
•Danny Aiello: Film Actor
•Stephen Baldwin: Actor, Radio Personality
•Pat Boone: Singer, Songwriter
•Wilfred Brimley: Commercial Actor & Star of Cocoon
•Jerry Bruckheimer: TV & Film Producer
•James Caan: Legendary Film Actor
•Drew Carey: Game Show Host & Former TV Star
•Adam Carolla: Former Host of The Man’s Show
•Tom Clancy: Espionage and Military Science Author
•Jon Cryer: Notable Film & TV Actor
•Robert Davi: TV & Film Actor
•Bo Derek: Model, Film & Television Actress
•Dale Earnhardt Jr.: American Race Car Driver
•Clint Eastwood: Academy Award Winning Film Actor & Director
•John Elway: Hall of Fame Quarterback & Super Bowl MVP with the Denver Broncos
•Sara Evans: Country Music Singer
•Lou Ferrigno: TV Actor (Star of The Incredible Hulk & King of Queens Guest Star)
•Mel Gibson: Film Actor & Academy Award-Winning Director
•Kelsey Grammer: TV & Film Actor, Star of TV’s Long-Running Series, Frasier
•Angie Harmon: TV & Film Actor, Star of TV’s Law & Order
•Elizabeth Hasslebeck: Former “Survivor” Contestant & Co-Host of The View
•Dennis Hopper: Actor, Director & Two-Time Academy Award Nominee
•Patricia Heaton: TV Actor, Female Lead in TV’s Everybody Loves Raymond
•Naomi Judd: Country Music Singer, Actress & Author
•Lorenzo Lamas: TV Actor
•Heather Locklear: TV & Film Actress
•Susan Lucci: Emmy Award-Winning Actress & Soap Star
•Dennis Miller: Actor, Stand-Up Comedian & Political Commentator
•Chuck Norris: Legendary TV Actor
•Ted Nugent: Legendary Musician, Speaker
•Richard Petty: Seven-time NASCAR Champion
•Johnny Ramone (John Cummings), Legenday Musician, Founder of The Ramones
•John Ratzenberger: TV Actor, Voice-Over Personality
•Robert James “Kid Rock” Ritchie: Singer, Song Writer & Rapper
•Adam Sandler: Legendary Stand-Up Comedian, “Saturday Night Live” Alum & Hollywood Film Star
•Pat Sajak: Wheel of Fortune Game Show Host & Political Columnist
•Curt Schilling: World Series Champion & Former Phillies, Diamondbacks & Red Sox Pitcher
•Tom Selleck: TV & Film Actor
•Ron Silver: TV & Film Actor
•Jessica Simpson: Singer, Actress & TV Personality
•Gary Sinise: Academy Award Nominated Film Actor & TV Star
•Sylvester Stallone: Producer, Director, Writer & Legendary Film Actor, Star of Rocky & Rambo Films
•Ben Stein: Film Actor, Game Show Host & Political Commentator
•John Stossel: Investigative Reporter, Speaker
•Janine Turner: Film & TV Actor
•Jon Voight: Academy Award-winning Film Actor and Political Activist
•Bruce Willis: Legendary Film Actor & Two-Time Emmy Award Winner
•Lee Ann Womack: Country Music Singer
•James Woods: Noteable Film Actor
•David Zucker: Director of Airplane & Naked Gun Films

Rightwing Troll

June 15th, 2012
8:50 am

“This piece is evidence of a disjointed thought process. Billionaire donors and the Roberts Court? Really”

Well, since you brought it up, it was the Roberts court that allowed Billionaires to donate unlimited, unfettered, amounts of money to political candidates. Of course Adleson does it out of the
magnanimous leanings in his heart, as pointed out by the resident wingnut trolls who live here, he expacts NOTHING in return for his investment…no?

Have any of the resident wingnuts offered up any direct examples of what we can expect from Mittens “leadership” other than to say he’d be an awesome leader?

Cosby

June 15th, 2012
8:50 am

Still no match for George Soros funding the Obama camp, occutards etc…fair and balanced, right Jay?

St Simons - codewords are the new black

June 15th, 2012
8:51 am

codeword for today, and every day after an Obama speech from
now on, forever is – ‘orgasm’
Rush already used it twice in his morning monkey poo.

Apparently Republicans are using their tried and true tactic of keeping
voter turnout down, this time through nausea & vomiting.

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:51 am

Romney outlined his “NEW” forward looking program to fix the economy. One) Borrow more money. Two) Spend more money. Three) Pay back business by promising to rescind every regulation implemented under Obama, even if it means risking killing people. Four) Increase taxes by saying “we’ll flatten the base and increase revenue” . Five) Blame Obama. Six) Blame Congress Seven) Renew the Obama tax cuts and give the most cuts to the superrich.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:52 am

paul

The thing that freaks me out about texas is all those camera lights…I know I’ve got at least one ticket waiting for me but my damn gps was getting me po’ed and impatient…no excuse when on vacation..I do not know this area at all…

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:52 am

Paul
June 15th, 2012
8:51 am

And you’re surprised? He’s a Bush clone down to the t.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
8:53 am

massachusetts refugee – “aren’t the democrats free to create and contribute untold milllions to their own super-pacs???

Yes.

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
8:53 am

Have you even considered that African Americans thought that Obama was better than the alternative?? Have you ever asked any of them about their perspective….or is your ASSumption showing???

Should have just kept it simple and asked him if he’s ever thought, period.

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:53 am

Mick

I’ll forward my phone number to Jay so you can give me a call and we’ll set it up.

Family’s coming in this evening for Father’s day so today lunch is best.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:54 am

brosephus

I think clint eastwood has moved over to our team :lol:

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
8:56 am

so why the outrage, jay?

Because democrats are free to create and contribute untold milllions to their own super-pacs. And republicans are free to create and contribute untold milllions to their own super-pacs. Both are abominations.

And worst of all, specifically because of Republican obstruction to legislation which would at least force such super-pacs to reveal themselves when placing ads under the guise of some innocuous name like “Puppies for Justice”.

Can you process this? That it’s not because merely one side is being corrupted? BOTH SIDES ARE CORRUPTED BY THIS.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:56 am

paul

Just meet me at the capital grille at legacy, what time works for you?

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
8:56 am

Still no match for George Soros funding the Obama camp, occutards etc…fair and balanced, right Jay?

15! Do I hear 16?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:56 am

Peadawg: I was referring to the bill, not the tax cuts part of the bill.

Can you name the other parts of the bill?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 15th, 2012
8:57 am

Cosby

That’s a lie.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:57 am

Mighty Righty:
Four) Increase taxes.
Seven) Renew the Obama tax cuts.

I think you have your talking point mixed up. Which is it? #4 or #7?

Rightwing Troll

June 15th, 2012
8:58 am

Pea,
No surprise at all… the problem is that the wingnuts have blocked out the Bush years and refuse to acknowledge the damage wrought under W… in their collective psychosis, Obama took office in 2000 with a roaring economy and tanked it, resulting in where we are now.

Fact of the matter is we ARE better off now than we were 4 years ago, by any metric, some are better of by huge margins, the nuts just can’t accept the fact that all of us are better off than we were 4 years ago, because that doesn’t fit into the narrative they’ve been given by Rush and Glenn Beck, and they refuse to call on those that are massively better off to create those jobs they’re supposed to be creating…

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:58 am

“I was referring to the bill, not the tax cuts part of the bill.” – Oooooh, ok. ;)

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
8:58 am

Mick

I think Clint Eastwood’s on Clint’s team. I don’t think he’s changed his principles at all. That’s what I like and respect most about him. Parties move, and only those who are strong in their principles stick to what they think as opposed to shifting with the party.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:59 am

Thrid time: Can you name the other parts of the bill that included the tax cut extension Peadawg?

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:00 am

A lot of people arew getting food stamps that weren’t before, but other than that, few, very few people are better off.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:00 am

Brosephus: Clint is an actual old-time Republican. Nowadays it seems like that was the good ol days. But that’s just because of how batsh*t his party got.

Mighty Righty

June 15th, 2012
9:01 am

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:36 am
Obama’s top economic advisers stated this not the CBO

What you are saying is that a SWAG is an accounting term in the Obama administration on which the administration relies to estimate the cost of its legislation. That explains why the administration missed the cost of Obamacare by roughly 100%. The same people who complain about the cost of medicare, passed Obamacare which will cost more than a hundred times as much as medicare does. Just SWAG it.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:01 am

A lot of people arew getting food stamps that weren’t before, but other than that, few, very few people are better off.

Count me among the few.

Also the few, apparently, that realize Romney would just make things worse. Sure, less people would be on food stamps…. because he’d sign any bill that cuts the program, not because less people would be poor.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
9:02 am

You can keep asking, Adam, doesn’t bother me. I really don’t what’s in the rest of the bill. I see tax cut extension for millionaires and unemployment extensions which both added to our deficit/debt.

Bruno

June 15th, 2012
9:02 am

OK, I ctrl-F’d the thread, and no lie–there are actually 13 genuine conservo-posts that say in essence “but SOROS!”

sfd, Adam and Brosephus–Once again I’m left scratching my head as to why mention of a Democrat counterpart to Jay’s Republican Bash-du-jour seems to be off-limits to you guys. 13 or 14 mentions of George Soros seems pretty tame in comparison to hundreds of posts bashing Sheldon Adelson and Republicans in general. Any reason you guys can’t handle hearing both sides of an issue?? Is there some written or unwritten blog rule that I’m not aware of by which only Cons/Repubs are allowed to be criticized here??

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:02 am

MIghty Righty – “That explains why the administration missed the cost of Obamacare by roughly 100%.”

You must have been really pissed when the last administration missed the cost of the Iraq war by about a trillion dollars, 8 years and 5,000 soldiers killed and wounded.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:03 am

That explains why the administration missed the cost of Obamacare by roughly 100%.

Actually the explanation for that is a lot simpler. But I expect you don’t know that estimate 1 and estimate 2 don’t measure the same time frame. So….

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:05 am

Adam

Well as long as you are OK.

Obama offers no plan other than keep on tilting left and attacking and over regulating the private sector. All the numbers have been trending poorly for 5 years, since Pelosi and Reid took over Congress.

The country needs a real leader. Woudl Romney be better? Could he be worse?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:05 am

Bruno: Once again I’m left scratching my head as to why mention of a Democrat counterpart to Jay’s Republican Bash-du-jour seems to be off-limits to you guys. 13 or 14 mentions of George Soros seems pretty tame in comparison to hundreds of posts bashing Sheldon Adelson and Republicans in general.

Do you have any evidence AT ALL that Soros is planning to pump millions upon millions into the Obama camp? Do we have evidence that Adelson is planning to pump millions upon millions into the Romney camp?

Answer those questions, and you have your answer. It’s a false equivalence. The only reason to constantly pretend the parties are the same is to argue, essentially, that “two wrongs make a right” or “you do it too!” even if, and especially if, the claim from the right is actually completely false.

Bruno

June 15th, 2012
9:06 am

You must have been really pissed when the last administration missed the cost of the Iraq war by about a trillion dollars, 8 years and 5,000 soldiers killed and wounded.

Butch–What are you doing mentioning Bush?? According to the prevailing Lib Logic here, countervailing criticisms are not allowed once a person or policy is put up for criticism. Or does that only apply to Republic people and policies?? Maybe someone can clear up my confusion……

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:07 am

I thought better of you than that Peadawg. You’re not even going to ATTEMPT to think outside your own box? Not even to fire up Google?

Proud to be me

June 15th, 2012
9:07 am

Brosephus™ June 15th, 2012 8:50 am — I said 95% of Hollywood elites are smitten by liberal candidates . . so those you name would be the 5% who have more than half a brain. Anyhow you’ve listed people who aren’t Hollywood elites (i.e., country singers)– no fair cheating! Not surprising though coming from a liberal!

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:08 am

Adam

Please keep in mind, this isn’t a court room. its a discussion. It seems that the only argument you have is “PROVE IT!!!”.

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:08 am

Once again I’m left scratching my head as to why mention of a Democrat counterpart to Jay’s Republican Bash-du-jour seems to be off-limits to you guys.

I never said it was off limits, so I’m left scratching my head as to why you’d include my name to that post. If I’ve ever said anything about campaign finance, it’s been that I would eliminate ALL outside money. I don’t give a crap who it is. I don’t like ANY outside money on any level. I don’t equate money with free speech, and I think outside money corrupts our election process and political process from start to finish.

If you need any further clarification on MY position(s), feel free to ask instead of just assuming. Thanks.

massachusetts refugee 10.167.4.48

June 15th, 2012
9:09 am

stands: yeah yeah, money is the root of all evil, blah blah. so what? it’s the law. money = speech. the cynic in me thinks the “system” has been corrupted long before citizens united ever reared it’s ugly head. my question for the jay-meister was why just pick on the repubs? where’s the column calling out soros or any of the dem contributors?

…orgasm…

Mick

June 15th, 2012
9:09 am

paul

Got booted off by an obnoxious update, who really controls your computer anyways? Here is the hotel phone number 972-943-8200 rm 315…no cranks please…

JohnnyReb

June 15th, 2012
9:09 am

All the hoppla over Citizens United is very foolish. In this age, money is like bullets. When in war you don’t limit the number of bullets you will fire. Plus, there’s no discrimination. The Left can also spend as much money as they wish.

This is advance sore loser.

It’s also very interesting that Barry can’t shut up on the stump about rich people, then immediately kowtows to the bunch he just vilified. I suppose since they are Liberals it makes it OK. Why doesn’t he say so on the stump?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:09 am

Obama offers no plan other than keep on tilting left and attacking and over regulating the private sector.

And your evidence for this would be….?

All the numbers have been trending poorly for 5 years, since Pelosi and Reid took over Congress.

Actually, all of the unemployment rates have trended downward for about a year or more, and the private sector has added more jobs than lost for over two years.

Woudl Romney be better?

No.

Could he be worse?

Yes.

Plus, if your vote is based on “well he couldn’t be any worse” you’re not only blind to his actual policy prescriptions but you are also falling prey to lies that the parties are “the same.”

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:11 am

13 or 14 mentions of George Soros seems pretty tame in comparison to hundreds of posts bashing Sheldon Adelson and Republicans in general.

Ummmmm, in case you didn’t notice, Adelson IS the thread topic. I would expect most posts to address him by name. Also, by my post to dB, I would have expected Soros’ name to appear quite a few more times. I would have expected most every big dollar donor’s name to be mentioned.

Thomas

June 15th, 2012
9:11 am

From the NYT- that conservative rag

President Obama swept through New York on Thursday evening for a pair of high-dollar, high-wattage fund-raisers where some of the city’s top fashion luminaries lent their cash and their star power to his re-election campaign.

Bookman- how was the event last night? Hungover from all the festivities? What, your weren’t invited? Shocking- maybe Adelson would give you more attention in Vegas.

At least it is Friday where we get travelin’ music

Paul

June 15th, 2012
9:11 am

Mick

Don’t fret too much. Some of those that look like red light cameras – all they do is regulate the lights to keep traffic flowing.

I emailed Jay with my numbers – but I don’t think it’ll breach anything if you posted the address where you’re staying and we can set up a time.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
9:11 am

brosephus

Good point but that commercial he made was pure gold…

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:12 am

Please keep in mind, this isn’t a court room. its a discussion. It seems that the only argument you have is “PROVE IT!!!”.

So in a discussion, it’s perfectly ok for people to make baseless claims and expect everyone to just believe them?

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:12 am

Proud to be me

In case you haven’t figured it out already, I was not responding directly to your post. However, if you’re nothing but a sock puppet, then why switch names in the first place?

Paul

June 15th, 2012
9:12 am

Mick

Just saw your 8:56. How’s 12:30?

Rightwing Troll

June 15th, 2012
9:13 am

“The country needs a real leader. Woudl Romney be better? Could he be worse?”

Considering he’s surrounded himself with W acolytes, and you can’t name a single specific thing he’d do different than Bush or Obama, and considering Obama hasn’t been a worse leader than Bush, why shouldn’t we “stay the course”?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:13 am

Brosephus: I would have expected most every big dollar donor’s name to be mentioned

I think we got a few “BUT BILL MAHER”’s

Not that 1 million is anywhere close to 100 million but hey, LOOK AT TEH SQUIRREL!

Jay

June 15th, 2012
9:13 am

From February (and I’m not aware of any of this changing:

(Soros) … isn’t giving to the political action committee working to re-elect President Barack Obama….

Soros has expressed ambivalence about a second term for Obama and said in a Reuters interview in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 25 that he was “not the only one who has been slightly disappointed” in Obama, while noting that “I continue to support him.”

If the 2012 contest were between Obama and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, Soros said that “there isn’t that much difference, except for the crowd that they bring with him.”

Michael Vachon, a spokesman for Soros, said that the Hungarian-born financier has recently traveled to Myanmar, has been working with emerging democracies in Africa and has not been concentrating on the U.S. election. “

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
9:13 am

“You’re not even going to ATTEMPT to think outside your own box?” – Guess not. I don’t fluff things up and make excuses to make the bill sounds all peaches and cream like you. I see tax cut extensions and unemployment benefit extensions, with neither being paid for.

It makes me think back to one of his famous quotes/lies: “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits — either now or in the future.”

barking frog

June 15th, 2012
9:13 am

Saying billionaires can buy
elections is just another
way of saying voters are
stupid.

Jimmy62

June 15th, 2012
9:14 am

Plenty of people are giving Obama plenty of money. A lot less than in 2008, but that’s hardly the fault of Romney or the Supreme Court, that’s all Obama for turning people off.

However, I thought the complaint about Citizen’s United was “corporations are people” (even though the decision specifically says corporations aren’t people- many lefties can’t [or don't] read)…

So my question is… Is Adelson a corporation or a person? He appears to be a person to me.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:14 am

Adam

- -And your evidence for this would be….?- -

Counselor, as I said before, this is a discussion. But if you really need proof of what Obama’s policies are doing to our economy, perhaps your general knowledge of national and world economies is not where it needs to be in order for you to carry out an informed discussion.

- -Actually, all of the unemployment rates have trended downward for about a year or more, and the private sector has added more jobs than lost for over two years.- -

Putting a stop to a completey lib controlled Washington has helped.

I don’t believe the parties are the same. I believe that Democrats look at promises and make excuses for bad results. I believe that Republicans expect good results and usually get them.

Jimmy62

June 15th, 2012
9:15 am

Jay: So your complaint is not that a billionaire is giving money, it’s that he’s not giving it to Obama?

Mick

June 15th, 2012
9:16 am

paul

Se my 9:09…

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:16 am

Mick

True. However, when I saw that commercial, I didn’t get the idea of a ringing endorsement of any party. It was simply a good solid message that, frankly, I think would come from a 1980’s vintage Conservative regardless of party affiliation. That message couldn’t get any more pro-America if there was a flag waving and God Bless America playing in the background.

Thomas

June 15th, 2012
9:16 am

Do you have any evidence AT ALL that Soros is planning to pump millions upon millions into the Obama camp

Damn Adam- get some coffee and wake up

From CNN- that other conservative rag
Billionaire financier George Soros has donated $1 million to the left-leaning super PAC American Bridge, a source with the organization said Monday.

The donation marks the first major foray into the 2012 presidential race for Soros, a high-profile supporter of President Barack Obama. In 2008 Soros helped the president raise a record amount of campaign cash.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:17 am

Jay

So has Soros stopped paying for Media Matters and giving millions to NPR?

Soros is always the spooky guy pulling the strings of the democrats, but I don’t blame you for wanting to seperate him from the party that you support.

JohnnyReb

June 15th, 2012
9:17 am

Soros may not be openly donating to Obama, but please take a look at this if you have any thoughts of why the Right so hates Soros.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237

Mick

June 15th, 2012
9:17 am

bro

Yes, but isn’t it funny how some found it “controversial”? Life is good…

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:18 am

Bruno – “Maybe someone can clear up my confusion……”

Wish I could help, but I’m not Left or Right, Lib or Con. Just can’t help myself when a member of one side proudly degrades the other when clearly neither side can take the high ground.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
9:18 am

“Jay: So your complaint is not that a billionaire is giving money, it’s that he’s not giving it to Obama?”

That’s what it sounds like to me as well. I’m sure Jay wouldn’t have a problem if Obama was doing better than Romney w/ raising money.

Rightwing Troll

June 15th, 2012
9:18 am

“I believe that Republicans expect good results and usually get them.”

Another 2000-2008 denier raises his hand…

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 15th, 2012
9:18 am

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:20 am

Mick

Extremely funny considering the fact that Eastwood hasn’t really been shy about his political leanings at all.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:21 am

Peadawg: I see tax cut extensions and unemployment benefit extensions, with neither being paid for.

It seems you’ve put two things together that don’t belong together – something “not being paid for” (code for we borrowed more money from our own economy of banks to pay for it) and a downturn in the private sector economy. Of course there hasn’t BEEN a downturn in the private sector economy since signing the bill, so your argument fails there too. And before you go on about how I am saying the tax cuts aren’t damaging, I’m not. What I AM saying is that extending unemployment helped the economy, and the tax cuts extension had neither a negative or a positive effect (it simply maintained a status quo that had existed for almost a decade). The payroll tax cut extension, however, did have a positive effect because only people making less than 106k get that cut, and they spend it in their local economies.

So yeah, not exactly peaches and cream, but not net negative either. But if you’re going to go with a binary-only worldview, I could see why you would think that if I wasn’t arguing it’s a failure I must be arguing that it’s ZOMG THE BEST THING EVAR!

Talk about void of any critical thinking process. A narrow view starting with “all I see” makes it pretty clear you’re not taking in more than what you WANT to see.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:21 am

Rightwing Troll

Please explain what Bush did. Started a war with almost full approval of Congress including the Democrats? Didn’t stop the Democrats for pushing unsecured mortages?

Of perhaps instead of that nasty waterboarding, perhaps he should have done like Obama and burned the suspects alive, often with their families.

Don’t give talking points. Please explain what Bush did.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:22 am

Counselor, as I said before, this is a discussion. But if you really need proof of what Obama’s policies are doing to our economy, perhaps your general knowledge of national and world economies is not where it needs to be in order for you to carry out an informed discussion.

So in other words, you have no evidence and you think a discussion is a place where you can make a baseless claim and I don’t get to challenge you on it. I suggest you learn what a discussion ACTUALLY is, rather than what you’d like it to be.

HDB

June 15th, 2012
9:24 am

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:14 am
“I believe that Republicans expect good results and usually get them.”

Depends on your perspective! In MY case, EVERYTIME a Republican gets into the White House, I LOSE economic capability, whereas whenever a Democrat gets into the White House, I GAIN economic capability!! Imagine going from 21k to 75K in four years under Clinton….but going from 75K to ZERO in nine months under Bush…and being unable to find employment for over TWO YEARS!! If you think this is false….ask those 25,000 people who were LAID OFF from United Airlines after 9/11……who couldn’t find work…who had mortgages and colleges to pay….

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:24 am

Thomas: From CNN- that other conservative rag

Thank you for acknowledging that CNN is conservative media

Billionaire financier George Soros has donated $1 million to the left-leaning super PAC American Bridge, a source with the organization said Monday.

Yes, in today’s world 1 million equals 100 million or “limitless” spending. :roll:

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:25 am

Adam

So what was the baseless claim?

I know that “Prove it!!” Is al you have, but are you really convincing anyone of anything?

Doggone/GA

June 15th, 2012
9:25 am

“5,000 soldiers killed and wounded.”

5,000 solders killed and something like 14,000 wounded

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:25 am

Jay’s complaint isn’t that Soros isn’t giving money to Obama, it’s a clear explanation that Soros is not an equivalent to Adelson, despite several posters thinking as such.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
9:25 am

“A narrow view starting with “all I see” makes it pretty clear you’re not taking in more than what you WANT to see.”

You’ve got a lot of balls to be talking about picking and choosing what I want to see, Seabiscuit.

Jay

June 15th, 2012
9:26 am

Wrong, Peadawg. I have been critical of the Citizens United decision from the moment it was issued, not just now when it’s clear that right-wing billionaires intend to take such advantage of it.

But it’s funny how the debate begins with “Soros is doing it too,” and when that is proved to be false, slides right into “Jay’s just mad because Soros ISN’T doing it too.”

From one false assumption to the next.

Mighty Righty

June 15th, 2012
9:26 am

June 15th, 2012
9:02 am
MIghty Righty – “That explains why the administration missed the cost of Obamacare by roughly 100%.”

You must have been really aggravated when the last administration missed the cost of the Iraq war by about a trillion dollars, 8 years and 5,000 soldiers killed and wounded.

Sorry, had to improve your language. Wars are always impossible to budget. I don;t recall ever seeing a budget for that war anymore than I have seen a budget for Obama’s on going war in Afghanistan. Seems to me war costs are always off the books but I concede if you know better. So you justify all Obama screw ups becuase prior presidents screwed up. I don’t think that reasoning will get you very far in this world.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:26 am

Actually, what really shocks me, is that Adelson made his fortune in Vegas. Surely by now he should know that “the house” always wins in the end. ;)

Thomas

June 15th, 2012
9:27 am

February Jay- really. On a blog?

In late breaking news the Giants won the 2012 Super Bowl- I do appreciate you sharing the Soros travel agenda. Really interesting.

JohnnyReb

June 15th, 2012
9:27 am

“Thank you for acknowledging that CNN is conservative media”

Excuse me while I laugh uncontrollably.

Or is there a new organization that has the same acronym as that liberal cable news station based in Atlanta who due to their Liberal leanings have run off almost all their viewers?

USMC

June 15th, 2012
9:28 am

“This is the world wrought by the naivete and partisanship of the Roberts court.”–JAY

More of Jay’s extremist and “out of touch” views; Jay is full of bluster as usual.

And yet Jay has no problem with the $MILLION$ from UNKNOWN sources that poured into Obama’s campaign fund from OFFSHORE last election; 2008. :-)

HDB

June 15th, 2012
9:28 am

“Please explain what Bush did”

How about NOT LISTENING to the threat assessment from Richard Clarke warning the Bush Administration about al Queda and the possibility of airplanes being used as weapons….for one; how about the statement that Bush said about going after Saddam – “He tried to kill my dad!”

That’s at least two things!!

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:28 am

Your baseless claim is that “Obama offers no plan other than keep on tilting left and attacking and over regulating the private sector”

What regulations has he placed that are overregulating the private sector? What plans has he proposed that are all “just tilting left”?

You can’t or won’t answer those questions with anything he’s actually done, because no such policy or plans exist.

Thomas

June 15th, 2012
9:29 am

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:29 am

MIghty Righty – “So you justify all Obama screw ups becuase prior presidents screwed up.”

Nope, I wasn’t trying to justify anything. Merely pointing out that whatever you throw out to the Left, or vice versa can easily be countered.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:29 am

HDB

So what, specifically did Obama do to make your life better?

Bush didn’t cause United to lay you off. Seems if Bill Clinton had taken bin Laden out in 98, 911 wouldn’t have happened. If you need to blame a US president, I would say that Clinton is your man.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:29 am

Peadawg: You’ve got a lot of balls to be talking about picking and choosing what I want to see, Seabiscuit.

It’s exactly what you’re doing. You only see tax cut extension and unemployment benefits without being paid for. That’s ALL you see. You said it. Man up.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
9:30 am

Jay, you’ve done a few columns now whining about Romney get more donations than Obama. Keep up the good work.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:31 am

Or is there a new organization that has the same acronym as that liberal cable news station based in Atlanta who due to their Liberal leanings have run off almost all their viewers?

And this shows that CNN ISN’T conservative because…..?

Bruno

June 15th, 2012
9:32 am

If you need any further clarification on MY position(s), feel free to ask instead of just assuming. Thanks.

Brosephus–I do sincerely apologize for lumping you in with sfd and Adam. You know that I think more of you than that. ;-)

Sincerely, though, this bit about not being allowed to mention any Lib/Democrat counterparts is beyond crazy in my book. Why some folks want to limit themselves to only one side of a discussion makes no sense to me. Especially when those same folks aren’t shy about bringing up Con/Republican examples whenever a Lib/Dem is criticized.

Thomas

June 15th, 2012
9:32 am

Or is there a new organization that has the same acronym as that liberal cable news station based in Atlanta who due to their Liberal leanings have run off almost all their viewers?

I have found CNN to be just to the right of Nascar-

Jay has converted me to an uber leftist where all things appear right wing to me- he is an amazing Penn State alum

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:32 am

And yet Jay has no problem with the $MILLION$ from UNKNOWN sources that poured into Obama’s campaign fund from OFFSHORE last election; 2008.

And I’m sure you have proof of such things, correct?

too little time

June 15th, 2012
9:32 am

WAH. Obama outspent McCain by about $400 MILLION. Jay, everytime you do an article like this you are nothing but a hypocrite.

TaxPayer

June 15th, 2012
9:32 am

Earnings from gambling that do not go to something like education or an IRS-designated charity should be taxed at 90%.

Thomas

June 15th, 2012
9:32 am

Dear beloved Adam- it was a joke

Paul

June 15th, 2012
9:33 am

Jay

“Michael Vachon, a spokesman for Soros, said that the Hungarian-born financier has recently traveled to Myanmar, has been working with emerging democracies in Africa and has not been concentrating on the U.S. election. “”

Sorry, can’t trust your Vachon source.

Everyone knows Soros is fixated on turning America into the world’s most socialist country and is working with front organizations and a secret cabal of like-minded millionaires and billionaires around the world to make it happen.

And he’s only working for ‘emerging democracies’ because he knows the progression is dictatorship – democracy – socialism. It’s part of the grand plan of the secret conspiracy.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:33 am

CNN’s response to Wisconsin Recall: Play a clip of the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee.

CNN’s coverage of Iraq and Afghanistan: ZOMG the troops are AWESOME!

CNN’s Sunday morning shows: 70% Republican guests.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:34 am

BetterOff? No. – “Seems if Bill Clinton had taken bin Laden out in 98, 911 wouldn’t have happened.If you need to blame a US president, I would say that Clinton is your man.”

Yeah, and if Reagan had invested in the rebuilding of Afghanistan following our covert victory in helping to remove the Socviets, then Bin Laden might not have been so angry and 9-11 wouldn’t have happened. If you need a US President to blame, I would say that Reagan is your man.

See how that works?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:34 am

Bruno: Sincerely, though, this bit about not being allowed to mention any Lib/Democrat counterparts is beyond crazy in my book

You can mention it all you want, but that doesn’t make it an equivalent measure to the main topic.

TaxPayer

June 15th, 2012
9:34 am

Money given to PACs should be taxed at 90%. I’d vote for a person that would push to implement such a law.

Mighty Righty

June 15th, 2012
9:34 am

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/23/section-527-works-to-seat-liberals-as-election-ove/#.TgYdkFqW71k.facebook

Soros and liberal groups seeking top election posts in battleground states

Billionaire hedge-fund operator George Soros is among wealthy liberal activists who have contributed to the Secretary of State Project, a 527 organization that works to put progressive Democrats in office overseeing elections in battleground states. (Associated Press)
By Chuck Neubauer, The Washington Times June 23, 2011

A small tax-exempt political group with ties to wealthy liberals like billionaire financier George Soros has quietly helped elect 11 reform-minded progressive Democrats as secretaries of state to oversee the election process in battleground states and keep Republican “political operatives from deciding who can vote and how those votes are counted.”

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:36 am

Obama outspent McCain by about $400 MILLION

WITHOUT Citizen’s United, with many small donors, with the promise he would bail out banks so they could become bigger, etc.

Jay

June 15th, 2012
9:38 am

No, Peadawg, I have pointed out that a lot of Romney’s money is coming from the “titans of industry,” and that his money has come in big donations as opposed to Obama’s small donations, as an indicator of where political support is coming from.

But I have not complained about such donations because they at least abide by the donation limits that still survive for individual contributions directly to campaigns. My concern, as it has been from the beginning, is the enormous influence and control that a small number of people can purchase through massive, even “unlimited” contributions.

If you are not concerned by that as well, and about its impact on democratic self-government, then we strongly disagree.

Jefferson

June 15th, 2012
9:38 am

Someone that will buy influence will run a dirty business.

USMC

June 15th, 2012
9:38 am

President Obama’s message of DIVIDE and BLAME is damaging our country….

Bobby Jindal “hits the nail on the head”

Obama’s message of divide and blame…
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/15/opinion/jindal-obama-excuses/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Paul

June 15th, 2012
9:39 am

Adam

“it’s a clear explanation that Soros is not an equivalent to Adelson, despite several posters thinking as such.”

It’s pretty apparent some people can’t grasp the distinction between “I’m rich and I’m not going to contribute to Obama’s PACs” and “I’m rich and I’ll spend upwards of $100 million on Romney’s PACs.”

If they can’t grasp that, there’s no hope at all discussing relative influence in a democracy.

Y’know, this rather reminds me of the situation in Northern Ireland before the troubles. Catholics had a hard time buying a home or an apartment. In order to vote, you had to own property. So a Catholic apartment renter couldn’t vote, but the Protestant landlord who owned five buildings with five apartments in each got to cast 25 votes.

And the Protestants said “yeah, so? What’s the problem?”

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:40 am

Bruno

My opinion on mentioning the opposition party is as follows: If one applies the “but… but… but… *insert name/party here* did it” defense in addition to acknowledging their person/party’s shortcomings, then it’s fair game. However, if that defense is used as a diversionary tactic, then I consider it the flailings of a weak mind, regardless to whom it comes from.

Given this is Jay’s blog, he gets to set the topics. I don’t think he has been as hard on Obama as he could be, but that’s just my opinion. I’m not going to attack him over that as this is his blog and, by proxy, his topics. If others wish to call him out, that’s on them. I’ll still apply my opinions based on the interactions.

I tend to follow whatever the topic is when starting out. I try to wait at least to page 5-6 before venturing off unless the whole conversation has shifted. That’s just me though. I can’t answer for anybody else.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:40 am

Obama’s message of divide and blame…

Because Romney’s such a uniter :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

We;ve been over this. “You’re being divisive” is just a way to avoid talking about the issues.

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:41 am

Yeah, and if Reagan had invested in the rebuilding of Afghanistan following our covert victory in helping to remove the Socviets, then Bin Laden might not have been so angry and 9-11 wouldn’t have happened. If you need a US President to blame, I would say that Reagan is your man.

And if Hannibal had conquered that b***h long ago, we wouldn’t have had to covertly battle the Russians. :)

I wanna play too!!!!!

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:41 am

Adam

Please, Adam. Tell us all what Obama great plan is to fix our econmomy.

regulations? Other than massive health care costs to small businesses and massive environmental regulations, hardly any at all.

USMC

June 15th, 2012
9:42 am

“And I’m sure you have proof of such things, correct?”–Brocephus

Proof that an “Affirmative Action” edumacation isn’t what it used to be. :-)

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:43 am

Please, Adam. Tell us all what Obama great plan is to fix our econmomy.

This is not an answer to what plans he have that “just tilt left.”

regulations? Other than massive health care costs to small businesses and massive environmental regulations, hardly any at all.

Which environmental regulations? Which health care costs to small businesses that are already in effect?

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
9:43 am

Jay, when it comes to donations to help fund a campaign, as long as it’s legal I don’t have a problem.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:44 am

Proof that an “Affirmative Action” edumacation isn’t what it used to be.

You mean, way back when they started Affirmative Action and applied it to education they put all THOSE PEOPLE in classes of their own and passed them, and now they don’t?

Or was your statement just completely false?

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:44 am

Bro – “I wanna play too!!!!!”

Jump on in, if we play long enough we might actually be able to blame the Big Bang and the formation of the universe for all our troubles. :)

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:45 am

USMC

I never knew you were educated via “Affirmative Action”. Maybe you should ask for a refund or do-over then. Asserting something as fact with no proof really does not look good on you. Trying to deflect answering my question only validates where your ASSumption came from. :)

Jay

June 15th, 2012
9:46 am

What’s legal IS the problem, Peadawg.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:46 am

Jay, when it comes to donations to help fund a campaign, as long as it’s legal I don’t have a problem.

And I suppose you also don’t care that legislators and judicial activism have created laws that make things legal that move the process of government FURTHER AWAY from being a representative government of the people?

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:47 am

Butch

:lol: :lol:

I gotta go google it, but I think there was somebody between Hannibal and the Soviets. I may have jumped offsides prior to the snap.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:47 am

Better Off? No. – “Other than massive health care costs to small businesses ”

Are these the same “massive” healthcare costs that involve the tax credits and the ability to allow employees to purchase insurance throught state exchanges? Not to mention the provisions that waive the HC requirement for businesses with less than 50 employees and /or a majority of PT workers?

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 15th, 2012
9:47 am

OK,
In about ten days you might see a car, pick up, or a motorcycle with the bumper sticker…

“Only Two Kinds Of Republicans”
“The RICH and The DUPED”

I just ordered them from a “make your own” site.

Gotta let my feeling be know, don’tchaknow…

So if you see them, you’ll know it’s ol’ Normal…Honk when you do… ;)

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:47 am

Adam

You said that I was making a baseless claim that Obama had no plan to fix the economy. If that is so, what’s the plan?

Which environmental Regulations? http://voices.yahoo.com/obama-imposes-energy-environmental-regulations-2574128.html

Read Learn.

Dems_R_Idiots

June 15th, 2012
9:49 am

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:49 am

Bro – “I think there was somebody between Hannibal and the Soviets.”

Don’t feel bad, Afghanistan is like the village bicycle. Everyones had a ride. :)

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 15th, 2012
9:49 am

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:44 am

Butch, I actually do blame God for all this…if He hadn’t started all this evolution and big bang sh*t, none of this would have happened! :D

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:51 am

Butch

Yep, I was wrong. It was the British before the Soviets. Prior to the Brits, it was Ghengis Khan. I was completely off on Hannibal from what I’ve read so far. I think I’ll have to give myself a false start and unsportsmanlike conduct on that one.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:51 am

You said that I was making a baseless claim that Obama had no plan to fix the economy

No, what I said was (and you can read it again) that your claim of Obama’s plans “just tilting left” is baseless.

Also, from the article you linked, in the first paragraph it says exactly which regulations you are referencing:

Obama has signed executive orders imposing strick emissions and mileage standards on the automobile companies.

So going back to your original point, how is that over-regulation? Just because a commenter says so? It looks to me like the auto companies are doing fantastically even with these regulations. If it’s over-regulation, then surely there would be a net negative effect from it.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:51 am

Normal @9:44

:)

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:51 am

Normal Free

Your bike will probably be left alone. Now if I were to put anti-liberal bumper stickers on my car, it wouldn’t last a week before someoone would do something to it.

It must be nice to be a liberal where you are allowed to say what you want.

Mighty Righty

June 15th, 2012
9:51 am

One cannot pick up a newspaper or watch a TV news program without hearing how Obama raised millions of dollars the day before, the night before or the month before using tens of thousands per plate dinners. Obama has held 157 fund raisers since he has been president (more than the previous five presidents in their entire terms) including more than 90 this year. He is averaging more than a fund raiser per day. Between his more than one hundred rounds of golf and his 157 fund raisers it is a wonder that he has time to run the largest country in the world. (Maybe he doesn’t.) We know that at every fund raiser he brings in millions of dollars. I don’t have a problem with that, more power to him. However don’t try to convince us that he is geting most of his money from small donors. That doesn’t pass the smell test.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:52 am

I just ordered them from a “make your own” site.

Link please. I want.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:54 am

Now if I were to put anti-liberal bumper stickers on my car, it wouldn’t last a week before someoone would do something to it.

Yeah right. Your assumption that liberals are more violent than conservatives is refuted:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57364265/pols-cat-killed-liberal-scrawled-on-body/

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:54 am

Mighty Righty – “it is a wonder that he has time to run the largest country in the world”

Which country is that Mighty? Since the U.S. isn’t the largest country in the world, you must know of an Obama side gig that we don’t. Please enlighten us.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:55 am

One cannot pick up a newspaper or watch a TV news program without hearing how Obama raised millions of dollars the day before, the night before or the month before using tens of thousands per plate dinners.

I picked up a newspaper the other day and saw no such thing.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:55 am

Adam

Congradulations. You read the first paragraph.

And your saying that the auto companies are doing great sort of shows how little you know. Tens of thousands lost dealerships and jobs when Obama took over the industry and closed two car company lines. Now GM owes billions that it will never be able to repay, but the union fat cats got paid so all is well, I suppose.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:56 am

Better Off? No. -”
It must be nice to be a liberal where you are allowed to say what you want”

Yes, kind of like after the election all the “employers” saying they were going to go out into the parking lot and fire any employee with an Obama sticker on their car.

Thogwummpy

June 15th, 2012
9:57 am

Remember the (double) standard: If you’re a Democrat and you’ve got lots of money, like JFK, RFK, John Kerry, and even Obama….well, that’s okay—you deserve it. BUUUUUUUUUUT, hold the presses! If you’ve got money and you’re a Republican, then you’re “greedy” “out of touch”, “don’t deserve it”, etc….etc. C’mon man! Being liberal means that one gets to think like a bitter, petty, prissy, CHILD. And that means demonizing anybody who disagrees, while hypocritically excusing guys on your side who do the same things you’ve just denounced. I’ve read a lot of history, and I wonder why repeatedly tyrannies get initial public support. I conclude it’s because of people like Bookman who endorse hating your successful neighbor…writers like him who peddle resentment—yet claim to be “compassionate” to justify grudges (and the atrocities that can come next—-people like Bookman set the table, create the rationalizations).

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
9:57 am

“And I suppose you also don’t care that legislators and judicial activism have created laws that make things legal that move the process of government FURTHER AWAY from being a representative government of the people?”

Oh pahlease that “gov’t by the people” crap goes out the window every time a politician flips flops or breaks a promise once in office.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:57 am

And your saying that the auto companies are doing great sort of shows how little you know. Tens of thousands lost dealerships and jobs when Obama took over the industry and closed two car company lines. Now GM owes billions that it will never be able to repay, but the union fat cats got paid so all is well, I suppose.

Actually that shows how little YOU know, since the jobs and sales of car companies across the board has gone up since those “over-regulations”

phil

June 15th, 2012
9:58 am

I only hear people whine about partisanship when things don’t go they way they like.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:58 am

Adam

Killed a cat. Wow. That is certainly extreme compared to the Occupy Movement’s rapes and deaths.

I see half the cars in Atlanta with hate bumper stickers and you now claiming “I want”.

You guys feed off hate. Republicans know better than to tempt liberals to have a chance of hating something new.

massachusetts refugee 10.167.4.48

June 15th, 2012
9:59 am

the citizens united horse has left the barn, and the barn has burned down. b!tch about about it all you want (and i for one, think it stinks) but it’s the law. and money has always been the difference between success and failure in politics. don’t like it? then figure out a way to get it changed. that is outside my pay grade.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
9:59 am

Blame and divide? What about the repub tactics of obstruction and failure? C’mon, this is american politics, nothing new under the sun…

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:59 am

That is certainly extreme compared to the Occupy Movement’s rapes and deaths.

Link?

I see half the cars in Atlanta with hate bumper stickers and you now claiming “I want”.

I want a custom made bumper sticker, yes. I didn’t say what I’d put on it.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
9:59 am

“What’s legal IS the problem, Peadawg.” – Only when it’s not helping your side.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
10:00 am

Thogwummpy @9:57

I always love hearing from the “scraps is better than nothing” supporters.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:01 am

Adam

Yes, they sure have gone up. Did any of the dealers get their dealerships back? Any jobs return to the people who worked at those places?

Well the union fat cats and the auto execs did OK. A few workers got jobs.

Sorry Adam. The net result was horrible. Many people lost jobs and the amount the government had to pay for the few jobs gained was millions per job.

Jefferson

June 15th, 2012
10:02 am

They deserve blame for their unAmerican actions, and they are dividing the country into haves and have nots and you better pick the right side or it will be 2008 all over again.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:02 am

BTW, more evidence of conservatives attacking liberals: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6995694n

There are lots of these examples. To assume that liberals attack conservatives, and conservatives DO NOT attack liberals, is false.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
10:02 am

Better Off? No. – “Republicans know better than to tempt liberals to have a chance of hating something new.”

Serioulsy, did you not see the crew they put up for their Presidential bid?

Michael

June 15th, 2012
10:03 am

What we have here is a casino advancing $10 million, so someone can stay in the game. As is always the case, the casino will hold a marker. Since organized crime initiated this system and the collection process that goes with it, we know that the casino knows how to call in markers. It’s something like the process that took place, when the preacher in Mississippi told Romney to fire his gay advisor. Romney promptly fired his gay advisor.
Now, I don’t think the casino cares about gay advisors, since they have plenty of gay employees, entertainers, and I suppose some of the hookers that ply their trade in the casinos are also gay. I think the casino is more interested in the middle east and would prefer John Bolton plying his trade in that area and at the UN. I think the casino would also prefer Paul Wolfowitz in a position to advise the defense department and the NSA and CIA. And I would think the casino would prefer a hotline to the oval office, as the casino does not like going through subordinates.
And when the casino says, “Mr President, I’m calling in my marker.” The president better have a prompt response, like he did, when he fired his gay advisor.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:03 am

Adam

You need a link to see Occupy Violence?

Sorry Adam. Its not my job to show you the obvious. If you haven’t already been made aware of the deaklths and rapes involved in the occupy movement, perhaps MSNBC is not telling you everything that you need to know.

Mighty Righty

June 15th, 2012
10:04 am

The people today that are saying Obama doesn’t have a plan to fix the economy are Bill Clinton, Ed Rendell, James Carville, and Douglas Schoen, Democrats all.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
10:05 am

Better Off? No. – “I see half the cars in Atlanta with hate bumper stickers.

Wow, theres almost 5 million people in the metro area, and you have seen 2.5 million cars with hate bumper stickers?

That’s impressive!

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:05 am

Sorry Adam. The net result was horrible. Many people lost jobs and the amount the government had to pay for the few jobs gained was millions per job.

I doubt your sincerity in saying you’re sorry. I wonder why I doubt that….

The net result was not horrible. More people have jobs in the automobile industry than did before, and sales are way up. There is also absolutely NO reason to think that the car companies that took bailout loans won’t be able to repay them, as you claimed earlier, also resulting in a very small net loss for the government tax dollars, compared to all of the so called “conservative” estimates (heh) that have come out on this issue.

the cat

June 15th, 2012
10:05 am

Better Off? No-OMG-your accusations were disproved like 6 months ago. Keep up.

Williebkind

June 15th, 2012
10:05 am

So I gather there are no rich liberal democrats! So I googled:

Report: 237 millionaires in Congress,
That’s 44 percent of the body – compared to about 1 percent of Americans overall.
CRP says California Republican Rep. Darrell Issa is the richest lawmaker on Capitol Hill, with a net worth estimated at about $251 million. Next in line: Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), worth about $244.7 million; Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), worth about $214.5 million; Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), worth about $209.7 million; and Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), worth about $208.8 million.

So do you drive by liberals see the D’s in this list! Once again liberals are liars.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:05 am

Sorry Adam. Its not my job to show you the obvious

Code for you got nothin

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:06 am

Butch Cassidy

Wow. What a deep and intelligent post.

When do you turn 12 years old?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:06 am

BTW, you said RAPES and DEATHS. Discussion, indeed….

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
10:07 am

Williebkind – “So I gather there are no rich liberal democrats!”

Actually there’s lots of them.

barking frog

June 15th, 2012
10:07 am

Mick
how about “Only one kind
of Democrat – the Duped”.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:08 am

Adam

Its not code for anything. You are not a debater. You are a dancer.

Anyone with google knows about the violnce with two seconds of searching.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049137/Occupy-Wall-Street-Violence-erupts-police-clash-protesters.html

You are nothing more than a waste of time.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
10:09 am

Better Off? No. When do you turn 12 years old?

I turned 12 in 1975. When are you going to show me the “massive” healthcare costs to small businesses?

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

June 15th, 2012
10:10 am

Lot of 1%’ers with the Prez last night. Lot of them at Cloony’s house. Most dumb as a rock and wouldn’t get caught near a 99%er. Most of these folks are indulged with the ” it;s cool to be liberal” and haven’t a clue that the people they have no use for ( middle class working folks in fly over country, clinging to their guns and religion)are the one’s who buy those movie tickets that allow them to support their “cause’ with a voice. Most movies now LOSE money for a reason.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
10:10 am

frog

What are you talking about???

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:10 am

Better Off: So your proof of RAPES and DEATHS is “OWS has engaged in violence.”

I didn’t ask you to show me violence. I asked you to show me proof of RAPES and DEATHS, your original claim. You keep moving the goal posts. THAT is a REAL waste of time.

barking frog

June 15th, 2012
10:11 am

While you are wasting time,
time is wasting you.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:11 am

When are you going to show me the “massive” healthcare costs to small businesses?

Oh yeah, forgot about that one. As she no doubt intended.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

June 15th, 2012
10:11 am

And this guy giving all the money to the GOP PAC……..He’s a patriot. Not on this blog, but to half of America. Half.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:12 am

Adam

Rapes:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/sexual-assaults-occupy-wall-street-camps/story?id=14873014#.T9tCFLXpXus

Deaths:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-11-11/occupy-deaths/51164980/1

And again, if you didn’t already know these things, you are too uninformed to discuss issues and if you did know them, you are playing games.

Neither make you look good.

Lord Help Us

June 15th, 2012
10:12 am

Better Off? No…

Interesting moniker…If you are worse off now than you were in Jan 2009, the gov’t may not be able to help you…

barking frog

June 15th, 2012
10:13 am

mick
no rich democrats. right?

OedipusTax

June 15th, 2012
10:14 am

Sssshhhhhhhhh. Don’t mention George Soros. Democrats are supposed to be average and poor, and never evil and rich.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:14 am

Lord Help Us

Why would i expect help from the government? I’m not a democrat.

USMC

June 15th, 2012
10:15 am

When will the easily Duped DemocRats wake up?

More bad news for the Obama Regime…

June Consumer Sentiment Sinks to Six-Month Low
http://www.cnbc.com/id/47828332

Williebkind

June 15th, 2012
10:15 am

“Williebkind – “So I gather there are no rich liberal democrats!”

Actually there’s lots of them.”

Really! All I hear on AJC/CNN is that the Republicans are the rich ones.
So if there are so many rich DEMOCRATS, why cant they fund their own giveaways. Have a dinner at Jessica’s house or the many other hollywood liberals. They could fund the cost of healthcare for the poor! They could become real Americans. Nope, they wont do that! They are too stingy! They want you and me to pay for it. Liberals are disgusting.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:15 am

Better Off: Thank you for providing actual evidence to your claim. No, if I didn’t know these things it doesn’t mean I am too uninformed to discuss the issues, it means that I didn’t know those things and that it would help me to know them.

Now, you have other chances to convince me. What massive regulations from the health care law are on small businesses right now? Hell, you might even convince me to vote Romney since CLEARLY Occupy is just a bunch of liberals and CLEARLY he hates small business.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
10:15 am

Lord Help Us – “Better Off? No…

Interesting moniker…If you are worse off now than you were in Jan 2009, the gov’t may not be able to help you…”

Apparently Better Off is just bitter that I and Adam and many others actually are better off. Would that constitute wealth envy?

JohnnyReb

June 15th, 2012
10:16 am

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:31 am

Or is there a new organization that has the same acronym as that liberal cable news station based in Atlanta who due to their Liberal leanings have run off almost all their viewers?

And this shows that CNN ISN’T conservative because…..?
_____________

Adam, it’s completely understandable that someone hard Left like yourself would think CNN is not Liberal. But than again, you probably don’t consider yourself hard left.

meinpvb

June 15th, 2012
10:16 am

Hey Jay, just curious why you don’t mention George Soros, a big time contributor to Obama’s re-election fund? Why not talk about Obama’s “little” party last night in New York hosted by Hollywood Elite Sarah Jessica Parker and Anna Wintour? Why no mention of his stay at the five star Plaza hotel? Why didn’t you write about how Obama has had more fundraising events than the last 6 presidents combined? Or about how the media covers up his gaffes or makes excuses for them (that is pretty priceless)? Between unions, Soros and Hollywood I don’t think you have to worry too much about Adelson.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:17 am

They want you and me to pay for it. Liberals are disgusting.

Where is your evidence that you are paying for any of that? And I take it your sentiment of liberals being disgusting means you don’t like campaign fundraising and will support limits on it?

Mick

June 15th, 2012
10:17 am

frog

I think you have some comments mixed up, don’t know what you are talking about…

the cat

June 15th, 2012
10:17 am

Jay-pulease pull the plug on this one. The same argument has gone round and round about 800 times.

TaxPayer

June 15th, 2012
10:17 am

When do you turn 12 years old?

Because we all know that the person asking a question like that is the true intellect!

I wonder if that poster has also gone by the name, “Ben Shockley”, amongst others.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
10:18 am

meinpvb – “Why not talk about Obama’s “little” party last night in New York ”

What? Obama was in my town last night and I wasn’t invited? That tears it, I’m voting for Romney!!

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:18 am

Adam, it’s completely understandable that someone hard Left like yourself would think CNN is not Liberal. But than again, you probably don’t consider yourself hard left.

It’s completely understandable that you have no actual evidence of CNN being liberal to put up, and instead attack the person who says they are conservative. But then, you probably don’t consider much of what you say.

Jefferson

June 15th, 2012
10:18 am

Gomer has been following orders for a while.

Paulo 977

June 15th, 2012
10:18 am

Adam
ell if Ezra Klein is hosting again I’m not sure it’ll have the same oomph.
__________________________________________
Gawd…neither will I!!!

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:19 am

Adam

The rapes and deaths were front line news. USA Today and ABC News. Why did I have to take time from my day to show you that? And chances are, if you were confronted by another conservative saying the same thing, you would still claim to know nothing about it.

But now you beg to be informed about another front page story.

Get your nose out of this blog. Pick up a newspaper and educate yourself. Its not my job to do it.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
10:19 am

One cannot pick up a newspaper or watch a TV news program

This is Mighty Rightese for “I have no evidence whatsoever.”

USMC

June 15th, 2012
10:19 am

The Obama regime is breaking the laws of the U.S.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/15/obama-administration-to-offer-immunity-to-younger-immigrants/

I guess Dictator wannabes like Obama can do that… :-)

Lord Help Us

June 15th, 2012
10:19 am

‘Why would i expect help from the government? I’m not a democrat.’

Are you ‘Better Off?’ You seem to be saying ‘no’ and blaming it on Obama…therefore, you must be dependent on the gov’t…

1+1=2…

A dad

June 15th, 2012
10:20 am

meinpvb:

You beat me too it. Can’t wait to see how the libs rationalize Soros, last night’s H-wood fund raiser, etc.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
10:20 am

The same argument has gone round and round about 800 times.

but cat. Soros! Demoncrapz do it too!

Mick

June 15th, 2012
10:20 am

I think the point jay is trying to make doesn’t pertain to any one party, the system is awash in unlimited money from the rich and powerful, it’s out of control and the vast majority are on the sidelines trying to tread water…

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

June 15th, 2012
10:20 am

“Interesting moniker…If you are worse off now than you were in Jan 2009, the gov’t may not be able to help you…”

Jay’s Foreclosure bog yesterday seems dispute your claim.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 15th, 2012
10:20 am

It really makes me laugh to see the “Duped” rag about The Democrats Sugar Daddy, while thinking it’s the most wonderful thing in the world to have Rove, the Koch’s, and Adelson
play sugar daddy for them.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:20 am

It’s completely understandable that you have no actual evidence of . . . bla, bla, bla

This is all he has. And as I proved, presenting him with evidence just goads him to demand more. He’s wasting your time.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

June 15th, 2012
10:21 am

“blog”…not “bog”

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

June 15th, 2012
10:21 am

Obama doesn’t care for these Hollywood types. They are being used. Look at their life. several homes, Biggest carbon footprint people on earth with their 2-4 flights a week on private jets………alone…… Using the energy of 100 American families.An army of ” his ” people doing everything for them at minimum wage but wiping their butt…and on and on…………It’s against everything this this President believes in…………………………But, they got money…..and they love to be liberal…………..Guilt I guess.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:21 am

Better Off: I Googled “massive over-regulation from obamacare” and found no front page stories that told me what they were.

You have posted evidence for exactly ONE THING, which lets me know you’re perfectly fine giving evidence when it exists, and deflecting when it doesn’t.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
10:22 am

usmc

Damn! Your commentary kinda makes your alter ego gomer look like a nuclear physicist, get a grip grunt…

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:22 am

Lord Help Us

It was a question. See the question mark?

I’m doing fine. Stop worrying.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
10:22 am

Apparently Better Off is just bitter that I and Adam and many others actually are better off. Would that constitute wealth envy?

Yep. And I know I feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing that some rightie out there is open about resenting *me* for *my* better-off-ness. You?

Don't Forget

June 15th, 2012
10:22 am

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:47 am

Adam

You said that I was making a baseless claim that Obama had no plan to fix the economy. If that is so, what’s the plan?

Which environmental Regulations? http://voices.yahoo.com/obama-imposes-energy-environmental-regulations-2574128.html

Read Learn.

Um, you DO realize that article is from January 2009 and the auto industry is actually doing fairly well? And “cap and trade”, hasn’t happened? And the McCain campaign supported cap and trade?

Williebkind

June 15th, 2012
10:23 am

“Where is your evidence that you are paying for any of that? And I take it your sentiment of liberals being disgusting means you don’t like campaign fundraising and will support limits on it?”

I am paying for it every payday Adam to provide housing, transportation, food, clothing, and healthcare for those who will not take personal responsibility.

If you are gullible, the campaign advertisements may make a difference. I do not have problems with contributions nor the amount. I have a problem with lying.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
10:23 am

I’m doing fine. Stop worrying.

so why do you answer your own question with a “no?”

oh, wait a second–I’m dealing with a slimy name-shifting mystery meat. Never mind.

barking frog

June 15th, 2012
10:23 am

Mick
Sorry should’ve been
Normal.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 15th, 2012
10:23 am

B. Off — “Get your nose out of this blog. Pick up a newspaper and educate yourself. Its not my job to do it.”

Translation: How DARE you not accept my word as gospel truth.

Lord Help Us

June 15th, 2012
10:24 am

‘It was a question. See the question mark?’

Good Heavens dufus…it is a question WITH an answer! You answered your own question…

omfg…

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:24 am

Adam

There are 15,300 results from searching ““massive over-regulation from obamacare” Did you read them all?

Looks mlike you are just plain lazy.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
10:24 am

USMC – “I guess Dictator wannabes like Obama can do that…”

Hey, if Reagan can give them all amnesty, why can’t Obama look after the kids? :)

Mick

June 15th, 2012
10:24 am

Wealth envy anyone? Love that phrase, created by the rich to be used exclusively by their water carriers with love…

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:25 am

Lord Help Us

That’s your name but you post “omfg”

Nice.

TaxPayer

June 15th, 2012
10:25 am

How much does a Republican cost these days? After all, we have already established what they do.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
10:25 am

frog

No problem, shiite happens…

Joe Hussein Mama

June 15th, 2012
10:26 am

Williebkind — “I am paying for it every payday Adam to provide housing, transportation, food, clothing, and healthcare for those who will not take personal responsibility.”

No. Taxpayers are providing housing, transportation, food, clothing, and healthcare for those who, for whatever reason, cannot afford it. However your implicit assertion that the poor *intentionally will not* exert any effort to help themselves is unsupported and is simply speculation on your part.

Most public assistance programs have lifetime time limits; so it’s in the best interests of assistance recipients to get their act together at some point and do better for themselves.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

June 15th, 2012
10:27 am

Compare charitable giving of cons vs commy’s to see the REAL picture.

Gimme Gimme Gimme

June 15th, 2012
10:28 am

So what is the next Obama fundraiser contest? Winner shares a bong with Bill Maher?

TaxPayer

June 15th, 2012
10:28 am

Count me amongst the “better off” and I owes so much of it to those Bush tax cuts. You cons are so generous with your tax dollars. So freely giving them to me like that. I just don’t know what to say.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
10:28 am

Better Off? No @9:41 am – “Other than massive health care costs to small businesses”

Are you going to answer my question or merely spin and hope that we all get dizzy watching you?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:29 am

Better Off: You like to make a lot of baseless claims. So far you have only proven one. Here is a short (incomplete) list of your baseless claims so far:

-Obama has plans that “just tilt left”
-Obama is over-regulating the private sector
-Obama is attacking the private sector
-All the numbers have been trending poorly for 5 years (keyword ALL)
-This is a discussion (maybe in some alternate reality view of a discussion being something where someone can just claim whatever they want and everyone else is just supposed to accept it)
-”Soros is always the spooky guy pulling the strings of the democrats”
-”[Bush] should have done like Obama and burned the suspects alive, often with their families.”
-massive health care costs to small businesses
-massive environmental regulations

You have already shown you are perfectly capable of providing proof, and I have already shown I am willing to accept it when you do. What do you have to lose? If you feel your time is wasted, why are you wasting time on here throwing out these claims?

John Birch

June 15th, 2012
10:29 am

If the Dems had their way they’d redistribute about 99% of Adelson’s wealth and then regulate how he spent the rest of it.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
10:30 am

How much does a Republican cost these days?

I’ll say it again–It costs absolutely NOTHING to tell a Republican or a Democrat that you will run millions of dollars worth of ads excoriating that Republican or Democrat if that Republican or Democrat doesn’t toe the line and vote “correctly” on a particular bill.

Why people are too thick to grasp this fundamental corrupting element of the status quo, I simply do not know.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:30 am

Yep. And I know I feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing that some rightie out there is open about resenting *me* for *my* better-off-ness. You?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mick

June 15th, 2012
10:30 am

Well, gonna meet paul for lunch…open invitation to any of you bloggers who make it to cuba norte errrr…miami, get in touch and I’ll show you the real miami. Doesn’t matter if you are a lib, con, or confused, I enjoy all the humanity on parade…out

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 15th, 2012
10:31 am

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:12 am

You make me think that you just Google for headlines and did not read the material.

Read. Two assaults by one man, another by a child molester and verbal harassment of women. None were identified in the article as actual protesters.

Also, one apparent accidental death, one suicide and one shooting at the park, but again the article did not actually identify the shooters as actual protesters, as they did for the accidental and suicide deaths.

Can’t you do any better than that?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:31 am

Translation: How DARE you not accept my word as gospel truth.

Pretty much

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
10:31 am

Hey, have they played the “OWSers rape and crap on cop cars” card yet?

That one never gets old, or inauthentic!

skipper

June 15th, 2012
10:31 am

Obama’s next star studded fund-raiser at your house, Jay?????

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:31 am

Joe Hussein Mama

- -so it’s in the best interests of assistance recipients to get their act together at some point and do better for themselves.- -

Nice thought, but that’s not really how things work.

Democrats buy votes from the poor by spending the tax payer’s money, not their own. they can buy all the votes they want as long as the people remain poor.

Once the poor people start achieving, that takes power from some very powerful people. They can no longer buy the votes. So the system is sort of like the old roach motels. You can check in but you can’t check out. (Or Hotel California)

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
10:32 am

oops, I see they did play that card. My bad.

josef

June 15th, 2012
10:32 am

I see it’s off on Soros again. I’ll repeat what I posted last p.m. The man has donated more than $8 billion (that’s billion) to philanthropic humanitarian causes above and beyond his political ones. From the endowment to Central European University (the largest of its kind) to Muhammad Yunus’ microbanking project, he has funded an incredible range of efforts focused on the betterment of the little people.

I doubt any of the big boy scoundrels of the right can match the big boy scoundrel of the left in having done so much for so many Joe Shmoes in a direct and tangible fashion,,,

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:32 am

There are 15,300 results from searching ““massive over-regulation from obamacare” Did you read them all?

The point I was trying to make was that search term won’t get me results that show me what I’m actually looking for. Without specifics, like WHICH regulation is harming business, I would have a tough time finding any evidence of it. My bet is you’ve just been TOLD there’s over-regulation from Obamacare with regard to small business, again with no specifics, and so you don’t have a good search term either.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:33 am

I am paying for it every payday Adam to provide housing, transportation, food, clothing, and healthcare for those who will not take personal responsibility.

So how do you feel about the healthcare mandate then?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:34 am

Most public assistance programs have lifetime time limits; so it’s in the best interests of assistance recipients to get their act together at some point and do better for themselves.

And yet, the same old arguments of how it’s “generational” and “they don’t WANT to work” keep popping up.

Show me ONE PERSON who sits on their butt at home because they don’t want to work. JUST ONE.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
10:34 am

John Birch – “If the Dems had their way they’d redistribute about 99% of Adelson’s wealth and then regulate how he spent the rest of it.”

If Republicans had their way, they’d have everyone living in cardboard boxes and using their children for kindeling and grandma as a sled.

I like this game. totaly non sensical statements requiring no proof whatsoever. Nice.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

June 15th, 2012
10:35 am

President Romney……………….sounds good…………….get use to it.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:35 am

Democrats buy votes from the poor by spending the tax payer’s money, not their own

Added to the baseless claims list

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
10:36 am

Adam, did you know that if you search for “obama is a poopy head”, you’ll get “About 308,000,000 results”?

Fact.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:36 am

Butch: I like this game. totaly non sensical statements requiring no proof whatsoever. Nice.

It’s called a “discussion” doncha know? :D

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:37 am

Adam, did you know that if you search for “obama is a poopy head”, you’ll get “About 308,000,000 results”?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:37 am

Adam

You have summed up your entire approach better than anyone else could.

You take every single statement and say “Prove It”, no matter whether proof is needed.

I have stated nothing off the wall or controversial to anyone who is in any way up on national politics. Your tantrums when others refuse to play your time consuming game of trying to bring you up to date on every single detail isn’t working either.

Perhaps your pleading ignorance about everything seems like a good approach for you. But when you are ready to actually discuss politics, let me know, but be warned, I’m pretty sure this is all you have to offer.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

June 15th, 2012
10:37 am

Damn Butch……………don’t leave out dirty air and water…………..When will they learn these talking points?

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 15th, 2012
10:38 am

That will be President, Who Do You Want Me To Be Today, Romney….

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
10:38 am

It’s called a “discussion” doncha know?

no no no. It’s “debating the FACTS.” which you cannot refute so I WIN.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

June 15th, 2012
10:38 am

Adam would make a good Obama staff member………………” oh yea, prove it”………..LOL

Joe Hussein Mama

June 15th, 2012
10:38 am

Better Off — “Nice thought, but that’s not really how things work.”

Actually, it is. If you can show me a state that has no time restrictions whatsoever on its public assistance programs — and SUBSTANTIATE that claim — then I might be able to credit your argument. As it stands, however, you’re simply wrong.

“Democrats buy votes from the poor by spending the tax payer’s money, not their own. they can buy all the votes they want as long as the people remain poor.”

And the cow jumped over the moon. Tell me another. :roll:

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:38 am

I have stated nothing off the wall or controversial to anyone who is in any way up on national politics.

Actually, of the list there are a lot of off the wall statements:

-Obama has plans that “just tilt left”
-Obama is over-regulating the private sector
-Obama is attacking the private sector
-All the numbers have been trending poorly for 5 years (keyword ALL)
-”Soros is always the spooky guy pulling the strings of the democrats”
-”[Bush] should have done like Obama and burned the suspects alive, often with their families.”
-massive health care costs to small businesses
-massive environmental regulations

In fact, except for taking out your contention that a discussion is to just throw out claims as truth, all of that is off the wall. But the fact that you think those statements are perfectly reasonable sure is telling.

Williebkind

June 15th, 2012
10:38 am

“Hey, have they played the “OWSers rape and crap on cop cars” card yet?

That one never gets old, or inauthentic!”

I am waiting for someone to ask a congressman what they are going to do about it like they did the Tea Party falsly accusing them of using that nasty word.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:39 am

Adam

- -The point I was trying to make was that search term won’t get me results that show me what I’m actually looking for.- -

I understand your point: You want others to do the work for you.

Teach thyself.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 15th, 2012
10:39 am

All this reminds me of my other bumper sticker…

“Vote Republican”
“It’s Easier Than Thinking”

:D

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
10:40 am

Adam would make a good Obama staff member

oh man. Adam. U have been skooled by our Captain of Industry.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above)

June 15th, 2012
10:40 am

Show me ONE PERSON who sits on their butt at home because they don’t want to work. JUST ONE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5tqH7UrzOw

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

June 15th, 2012
10:40 am

Well, Happy Friday everybody. I see Bookman ain’t got around to posting something new. Must be sleeping one off after chugging some of the product I haul.

Little Nathan Zell George let it slip that him and the missus are taking me to Ryans Sunday for a suprize Fathers Day lunch. I thought I’d let you all know so you won’t show up and risk losing a finger or hand while the missus is chowing down.

Anyhow, it’s good to see everybody’s the same—cussin’ and rippin’ and slammin’, etc. I’m busier than a one-armed paper hanger getting you ready to swap weird music, so I’ll check in later.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
10:41 am

Adam

“Added to the baseless claims list”

So politicians help the poor with their own money?

Couls you explain why you made such a bone headed statement?

St Simons - codewords are the new black

June 15th, 2012
10:41 am

Its slow, let’s do some math.
Sheldon is a betting man.
The magic number is 8.3 (trust me, i’m an accountant)
He is bargaining against the Buffett rule.
Here we go –
Sheldon’s annual income – approx $1 Billion/yr
Sheldon’s tax on dat – $150mil
Sheldons tax on dat w/ Buffett Rule – $300mil
That’s a tax savings of $150mil/yr X 8 years = $1.2billion
$100million donation / $1.2 billion = 0.083 x 100 = 8.3% (told you)
translate: if Rmoney has an 8.3% chance of winning,
then its a good bet. Does he?
I don’t think so, but Sheldon does.
If you con poo flingers think Rmoney has a 8.3% chance,
you should send him a million bucks too heheh.

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
10:42 am

(Yeah, I know I’ll probably get red-carded for that one. It’s worth it.)

Joe Hussein Mama

June 15th, 2012
10:42 am

Better Off — “You take every single statement and say “Prove It”, no matter whether proof is needed.”

You’re new here, Meat, so I’ll bring you up to speed.

A lot of poster here — on both sides — are going to demand that you prove your claims from time to time. So either pony up the evidence, or else grow a thicker skin (and expect that your word isn’t going to be accepted by very many posters), or else take a hike to somewhere else where the burden of proof for conservative claims is lower.

“I have stated nothing off the wall or controversial to anyone who is in any way up on national politics.”

Of course you have. You just claimed that the Democrats are engaging in a systematic and ongoign Federal felony by conducting an organized vote-buying scheme. That’s QUITE controversial and off the wall.

Jay

June 15th, 2012
10:42 am

For the record, sfd, do that again and you’re gone.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
10:43 am

Better Off. No? – “You want others to do the work for you. ”

Actually no. If you put forward a hypothesis, it is your reponsibility to prove the theory is true. Not the other way around.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 15th, 2012
10:44 am

Better Off — “I understand your point: You want others to do the work for you. Teach thyself.”

If you make the claims, it’s your job to support them with evidence. This is how it works in school and in court.

Jay

June 15th, 2012
10:44 am

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

June 15th, 2012
10:44 am

Good job Jay.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 15th, 2012
10:44 am

“I’m busier than a one-armed paper hanger”

I always thought it was “busier than a one legged man in an azz kicking contest”…

josef

June 15th, 2012
10:44 am

IMA LIBERAL

When you tag is longer than your post, you might want to rethink one or the other… :-)

219 more days

June 15th, 2012
10:44 am

Man, I wish I had time to play 100 rounds of golf, must have a lot of free time on his side…………

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
10:45 am

Dang, depending on how you view such things, I either have the world’s best sense of timing, or the world’s worst.

John Birch

June 15th, 2012
10:45 am

Butch – It’s hyperbole to make a point.. This is a blog, opinions like aholes are rampant. You want to play facts instead? Please show me in the Constituition where it is the role of the Federal government to re-distrbute income.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

June 15th, 2012
10:46 am

josef………………….you are a fly to me………… think about it.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:47 am

Better off: But when you are ready to actually discuss politics, let me know, but be warned, I’m pretty sure this is all you have to offer.

You have no interest in an actual discussion. You are only making this particular case because you do not want to have to answer for your baseless statements, and try to deflect attention away from that.

So fine, don’t prove anything. Let’s all just accept it. Yeah right.

Man up and actually tell the truth. It will set you free.

For example:
-Obama has NOT over-regulated the private sector:
www. politico.com/news/stories/0312/74227.html
-Obama has NOT put too many regulations on small business as a result of Obamacare:
www. forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/01/06/more-small-businesses-offering-health-care-to-employees-thanks-to-obamacare/
-Obama’s plans do NOT all “just tilt left”:
abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/obama-sells-energy-plan-on-local-airwaves-the-presidential-planner/
-Obama has NOT placed massive environmental regulations:
www. cfact.org/a/2051/Feeling-the-heat-Obama-drops-EPA-ozone-regulations

etc etc

So think about how I was able to actually prove four of my cases the next time you like to claim I’m not ready to discuss the issues.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
10:48 am

John Birch – “Please show me in the Constituition where it is the role of the Federal government to re-distrbute income.”

It doesn’t. But then, I never alluded to any such thing.

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

June 15th, 2012
10:49 am

Let the mass whining begin:

The Obama administration will stop deporting and begin granting work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children and have since led law-abiding lives.

Locking down that Hispanic vote!!!!

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:49 am

So politicians help the poor with their own money?

This guy, for one: http://www.congressionalprimaries.org/candidate/5

He helped found a community organization that combined job training for residents of public housing with green development in low-income neighborhoods

He’s a Democrat, by the way.

Recon 0311 2533

June 15th, 2012
10:50 am

Obama’s latest vote pandering focuses young illegals who’ll be immune to deportation and will also receive work permits. This of course targets the Hispanic vote. It was amusing to hear the desperation in Obama’s voice as he was reciting his little steak and martini joke. His voice was a bit shaky and his frequent pauses indicated that he was having trouble remembering his lines.

JamVet

June 15th, 2012
10:50 am

I don’t care how much money you have, if your first choice for prez was the gawdawfully buffoonish Newtie, you are a Grade A…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kz7YUdy-Cg

Joe Hussein Mama

June 15th, 2012
10:50 am

B. Cassidy — “It doesn’t. But then, I never alluded to any such thing.”

This.

Oblama

June 15th, 2012
10:51 am

There are millions of dollars flowing to Obama. He’s bought and paid for by the homosexual left. In return he “evolves” for same sex “marriage”. There’s millions of dollars flowing to Obama. He’s bought and paid for by the illegal immigrant supporters. In return he turns a blind eye and basically pardons illegal aliens – a violation of law. Why is he doing this months before the election? Votes and cash. The real Obama come’s out. Where’s your ethics now Jay???????

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

June 15th, 2012
10:53 am

The policy change, described to The Associated Press by two senior administration officials, will affect as many as 800,000 immigrants who have lived in fear of deportation. It also bypasses Congress and partially achieves the goals of the so-called DREAM Act, a long-sought but never enacted plan to establish a path toward citizenship for young people who came to the United States illegally but who have attended college or served in the military.

bypasses congress? Oh no he didn’t.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 15th, 2012
10:54 am

Recon — “Obama’s latest vote pandering focuses young illegals who’ll be immune to deportation and will also receive work permits. This of course targets the Hispanic vote.”

It also cuts off Marco Rubio at the knees, since he’s Cuban-American and Cubanos are automatically permitted to stay in the US if they can just get their feet on US soild (the Wet Feet/Dry Feet policy). If Rubio is Romney’s running mate, then it becomes politically untenable for either man to speak against this policy, as they’d essentially be saying that Rubio and his family should be entitled to residency, but other Hispanics who get into the US shouldn’t be.

It magnifies Rubio’s already-existing problem with the broader Hispanic community.

Oblama

June 15th, 2012
10:55 am

Obama will do anything for votes and money. Do we need that in the White House? He’s bought and sold by special interests.

John Birch

June 15th, 2012
10:58 am

I’m saying Jay doesn’t like Adelson spending all that money because he’s afraid the anti-christ (apparently in his opinion) Romney might win. I’m fiscally conservative in that I believe Adelson made the money so he should be able to spend it as he likes. Libs generally rail against the evil rich and evil corporations but that’s what America has always been about, freedom and financial opportunity.

JamVet

June 15th, 2012
10:58 am

Adelson and the rest of the 1% expect a return on their investment—they want complete dominance over our elected officials and the policies they set. The wage suppressing, job killing policies.

And the Republicowards are gonna do absolutely nothing but sit around on their ample rear ends and allow it to happen.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
11:00 am

Oblama – “Obama will do anything for votes and money.”

Yes, unlike every politician who has ever lived.

Williebkind

June 15th, 2012
11:01 am

This is funny!

A Center for Disease Control has issued a warning about a new virulent strain of this old disease. The disease is called “GonorrheaLectim.” It pronounced “Gonna re-elect em” and it is a
terrible Obamanation. The disease is contracted through dangerous and high risk behavior involving putting your cranium up your rectum. Many
victims contracted it in 2008… But now most people, after having been infected for the past 1-3 years, are starting to realize how destructive this sickness is.

It’s sad because Gonorrhea Lectim is easily cured with a new drug just coming on the market called Votemout. You take the first dose now and the second dose in Nov. 2012 and simply don’t engage in such behavior again; otherwise, it could become permanent and eventually wipe out all life as we know it.

John Birch

June 15th, 2012
11:02 am

But Jamvet what about all those jobs Obama has created with the regressive Bush tax cuts in place?

Oblama

June 15th, 2012
11:06 am

Mama – Cuban’s are political refugees – has nothing to do with Hispanic. You want to make it a racial thing. It isn’t There you go pulling the race card. Illegal aliens are just that – illegal. The immigration laws are for all races You know it. Obama is violating existing law and this will go to the Supreme Court. You can’t pass an executive act that violates the law and that is what he is doing. Even you acknowledge why he is violating existing law – for VOTES and MONEY from special interests. He’s bought and paid for. The real Obama come’s out. Leadership? He’s a puppet.

JamVet

June 15th, 2012
11:10 am

Scumbags like Adelson are supposed to create jobs.

And he and his anti-patriot buddies do.

In Communist China, India, the Philippines, etc.

And you faux conservatives love it…

Oblama

June 15th, 2012
11:11 am

JV – And Soros isn’t a 1% er for Obama? It’s O.K. when billionaires on the left shovel money to Obama – they are not evil unless they give money to the right? You are just a little bit BIASED.

Williebkind

June 15th, 2012
11:15 am

JamVet

June 15th, 2012
11:10 am

Relax Jamvet, it’s only corporations and you dont like those. Is it not better for them to be overseas?

Oblama

June 15th, 2012
11:16 am

The President of the United States is supposed uphold the laws of the United States – not support illegal actions. This could be grounds for impeachment.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 15th, 2012
11:17 am

Oblama — “Mama – Cuban’s are political refugees – has nothing to do with Hispanic. You want to make it a racial thing. It isn’t”

And this is why Romney choosing Rubio won’t help him with Hispanics, as many conservatives on this board erroneously think. I can’t count how many conservative posters have said ‘yay, a hispanic VP nominee — now we will get all the hispanic votes!’

So correct your ideological compatriots before you correct me.

“There you go pulling the race card.”

Conservatives have been pulling this particular card for the last six months. Go correct them first.

“Illegal aliens are just that – illegal.”

If you want to argue about what immigration law and practice actually SAYS, I will be more than happy to bring you up to speed. I’m pretty sure you don’t actually know the first thing about them.

“The immigration laws are for all races You know it.”

I sure do. And unlike you, I actually know what they SAY.

“Obama is violating existing law and this will go to the Supreme Court.”

Nope. He’s exercising Executive authority, and without proving standing and gaining certiorari, this isn’t even getting close to SCOTUS.

“You can’t pass an executive act that violates the law and that is what he is doing.”

Wrong. You clearly don’t understand what’s going on here. I understand that you don’t like it, but I can also clearly see that you don’t even know what you’re talking about.

“Even you acknowledge why he is violating existing law”

He’s not violating the law at all.

” – for VOTES and MONEY from special interests. He’s bought and paid for. The real Obama come’s out. Leadership? He’s a puppet.”

Blah, blah, blah. Cry me a river.

Oblama

June 15th, 2012
11:21 am

Hypocrites – It’s alright to violate the law when it supports your beliefs or is an advantage for your candidate to get votes, cash, etc. but evil when the other side does it. Hypocrites to the LEFT of me and hypocrites to the RIGHT. Observe the laws Obama. If you don’t like them you don’t openly violate them you try to change them. Obama is a hypocrite for votes and money. He’s a sell out.

Oblama

June 15th, 2012
11:29 am

Whining about the contributions of the 1 % giving to the right but accepting cash from the 1% on the left – HYPOCRITES. If your side is doing it you don’t have a complaint about the other side doing it. They are ALL bought and paid for. They are politicians. TERM LIMITS for Congress and IMPEACHMENT for Presidents that pick and choose which laws to uphold depending on whether it benefits them with cash and votes.

HDB

June 15th, 2012
11:40 am

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:29 am
“HDB – So what, specifically did Obama do to make your life better?”

Getting into office was the first thing…..stopping the bleeding in the economy was second!! Less than three months into office, I was able to get back to income levels that I had lost under Bush!! I still have a lot to make up…but I’m closer now than I was earning minimum wage under Bush!!

Oblama

June 15th, 2012
11:41 am

We need a 3rd Party in this country. We need a candidate that believes in upholding the laws and Constitution of the united States. A candidate that doesn’t accept bribes from special interests for votes and cash. . When the President of the United States openly gives orders to ignore laws and accepts cash and votes to ignore those laws that meets the definition of a bribe.

Oblama

June 15th, 2012
11:42 am

Obama the Puppet In Chief.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
12:16 pm

Oblama: Why are you always BLAMING someone else for what troubles you? :D

New kid on the blog

June 15th, 2012
12:40 pm

Just because something is legal doesn’t make it right.

That Black Guy

June 15th, 2012
1:05 pm

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:05 am

More people have jobs in the automobile industry than did before, and sales are way up
______________________________
Would Kia, Hyundai, BMW opening plants in the US have anything to do with that increase?

That Black Guy

June 15th, 2012
1:11 pm

That Black Guy

June 15th, 2012
1:31 pm

Adam

June 15th, 2012
10:34 am

Show me ONE PERSON who sits on their butt at home because they don’t want to work. JUST ONE.
____________________
Adam, a question.

How does someone on this blog “show” you that? I’m being serious here.
I have 2 in my family. Older sister and older brother (in jail right now). One is 48 and the other is 52.
Between them both they may have 4 years of work experience.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
2:15 pm

TBG: Would Kia, Hyundai, BMW opening plants in the US have anything to do with that increase?

Sure. Now, why would they locate here, if there’s too much regulation on auto industries?

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June 21st, 2012
12:35 pm

To “East Lake Ira”. How sad it is that you finally get a black president, and LOOK WHAT HAPPENS! Three and one half years later – unempl. STILL above 8%. Damn that George Bush, damn those repbs! The fact is you elected community organizer with no exp. It must hurt to know this is YOUR GUY who does not know his right foot from his left. IT AINT ABOUT HIS COLOR YOU FOOL, ITS ABOUT HIM.