Billionaire Adelson: ‘Limitless’ $$$ for Romney

From Forbes:

“Forbes has confirmed that billionaire Sheldon Adelson, along with his wife Miriam, has donated $10 million to the leading Super PAC supporting presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney -– and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. A well-placed source in the Adelson camp with direct knowledge of the casino billionaire’s thinking says that further donations will be “limitless.”

Adelson, who has built Las Vegas Sands into an global casino empire, will do “whatever it takes” to defeat Obama, this source says. And given that Adelson is worth $24.9 billion –- and told Forbes in a recent rare interview about his political giving that he had been willing to donate as much as $100 million to his initial presidential preference, Newt Gingrich –- that “limitless” description telegraphs potential nine-digit support of Romney.”

This is the world wrought by the naivete and partisanship of the Roberts court.

– Jay Bookman

938 comments Add your comment

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:28 am

“I am so glad George Soros, with his limitless cash did nothing for extreme liberal causes, oh wait he gave 100’s of millions…”

Time to invoke Kamchak’s Observation: ““If we’re just gonna make sh*t up, no sense in being half-assed about it.”

BW

June 15th, 2012
8:29 am

In the words of Darth Sidious…Unlimited Power!!!!

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:30 am

Mick!

You’re, like 15 miles away!

You’ve heading into a narrow band of thunderstorms.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:30 am

Just b/c you don’t like the answer I’ve given you doesn’t the answer isn’t valid.

I explained why the answer isn’t valid, and nowhere in my explanation was “I don’t like the answer.” You just make that assumption because you have your own blinders on when it comes to politicians in general. You want to focus only on what they’ve done that sucks, ignoring the rest. Being equal about that doesn’t mean you have a better perspective.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
8:30 am

If you follow the logic that a candidate who spends hundreds of millions of dollars is fiscally and economically responsible, you must also believe that maxing out your credit cards and overdrawing your bank account makes you a good saver. :)

Dems_R_Idiots

June 15th, 2012
8:32 am

“He never said that actually. That was a CBO (non-partisan, from Congress) projection based on the idea that the economy wasn’t tanking as much as it did.”

Obama’s top economic advisers stated this not the CBO.

St Simons - codewords are the new black

June 15th, 2012
8:33 am

‘Soros’, ‘Speilberg’, ‘Oblamo’

Rush, 6/14, 1st hour. Not an original thought among them. Sad, really.
ajc should get a commision for publishing EIB transcripts
now les go surfin hahaha

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:34 am

Anyone else find it ironic Republicans love a guy who spends more than anyone else?

“I’m gonna vote for the guy who spends the most money ’cause he knows that’s what it takes to fix the economy!”

td

June 15th, 2012
8:34 am

gm

June 15th, 2012
7:44 am

“Yet dumb middle class, poor whites really think Willard and his friends care about middle class Americans.”

And yet dumb African Americans believe that Obama is their friend. The highest unemployment rate, the highest foreclosure rate and not one single program to help. All they get is people like Al and Jesse (field bosses) telling them is Obama is the best thing that has ever happened to the African American community and Obama cares about them. All this while at the same time Obama keeps giving these government loans to his rich white progressive friends to start their alternative energy companies.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:34 am

“I explained why the answer isn’t valid” – I didn’t explain jack sh*t. All you did was make excuses.

And yes, I focus on Obama caving on millionaires’ tax cuts extension and not the other fluffy stuff that you use to make excuses for his lack-of backbone.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:35 am

“Obama’s top economic advisers stated this not the CBO.”

So you admit Obama himself didn’t say it. Thanks.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:36 am

Obama’s top economic advisers stated this not the CBO.

Fair, but they also stated this in the same report:

It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the obvious uncertainty that comes from modeling a hypothetical package rather than the final legislation passed by the Congress. But, there is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program.

Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity.

Mighty Righty

June 15th, 2012
8:36 am

Jay has lost it. This piece is evidence of a disjointed thought process. Billionaire donors and the Roberts Court? Really.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:37 am

So you admit Obama himself didn’t say it. Thanks.

LOL good catch

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:37 am

I didn’t explain jack sh*t

True.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:38 am

paul

Yes….plano is very interesting…saw a glam rock heavy metal band at sambucca 360 – they killed it but alas with the long hair and spandex, they are decades behind the times, what r u doing for lunch?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:39 am

All you did was make excuses.

If you call it an excuse to acknowledge that the bill in question contained more than tax cuts and did not, itself, after being signed at any point, cause massively negative effects on the economy and jobs. Reasonable people would call that looking at a bigger picture.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:39 am

:)

Typo @ 8:35 but you know what I meant.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:41 am

“If you call it an excuse to acknowledge ” – again, blah blah blah blah.

“did not….cause massively negative effects on the economy and jobs. ” – So you’re saying the tax cut extension for millionaires was good for the economy and jobs? Make up your mind.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:43 am

Peadawg: You know that’s not what I’m saying. That is, if you actually read what I’m saying and get out of the “focus only on the negative” box. The bill had more in it than tax cuts. Can you name all of what was in it?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 15th, 2012
8:46 am

Billionaire donors and the Roberts Court? Really.

Really

From John Amato
January 2011

When the conservative financier Charles Koch sent out invitations for a political retreat in Palm Springs later this month, he highlighted past appearances at the gathering of “notable leaders” like Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas of the Supreme Court.

AND

From Sourcewatch

(According to Salon, “Thomas claimed he just made “a brief drop-by” at the Koch brothers’ January 2008 Palm Springs political retreat to give a talk; in fact he was reimbursed for four days of “transportation, meals and accommodations” by the Federalist Society.[56]“

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:46 am

” You know that’s not what I’m saying. ”

You typed it @ 8:39.

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:46 am

Mick

You’re still in town?

I won’t go into all that’s on my plate but I’m open for that.

HDB

June 15th, 2012
8:47 am

td

June 15th, 2012
8:34 am
gm

June 15th, 2012
7:44 am

“Yet dumb middle class, poor whites really think Willard and his friends care about middle class Americans.”

And yet dumb African Americans believe that Obama is their friend.”

Have you even considered that African Americans thought that Obama was better than the alternative?? Have you ever asked any of them about their perspective….or is your ASSumption showing???

BTW, many of us are BETTER off than we were under Bush….and that’s the primary interest that we’re voting for!! The last time a businessman ran the US, he nearly ran it INTO THE GROUND!!!

Mighty Righty

June 15th, 2012
8:47 am

Obama outlined his “NEW” forward looking program to fix the economy. One) Borrow more money. Two) Spend more money. Three) Restrict business with more regulations. Four) Increase taxes. Five) Blame Bush. Six) Blame Congress Seven) Renew the Obama tax cuts. (Please note the Obama tax cuts were the Bush tax cuts that Obama approved to stimulate the economy while saying tax cuts won’t stimulate the economy. I know this is evidence of schizophrenia but the facts speak for themselves)

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:48 am

Mick

I’m in Flower Mound – just to the west and south of Plano – 121 crosses I35, just southwest of Lewisville.

massachusetts refugee 10.167.4.48

June 15th, 2012
8:48 am

since i have no desire to wade thru 13 pages of comments, please excuse me if this has already been assked, but…aren’t the democrats free to create and contribute untold milllions to their own super-pacs??? so why the outrage, jay?

TaxPayer

June 15th, 2012
8:48 am

Yep, It’s like I keep saying…There are two kinds of Republicans, The Rich and The Duped.

What if they start inbreeding.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:49 am

paul

yes, here until saturday…the place I’m near is legacy…got a great studio room for $69 a night with efficeny – excellent,,,

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 15th, 2012
8:49 am

Romney outlined his new plan to fix the economy:

Bush Policies

Proud to be me

June 15th, 2012
8:50 am

The continuing saga of pitting the rich against the rich! Yes, I said the rich against the rich!!! Anyone with half a brain knows that Jay is trying to play the devil’s advocate here. When 95% of all of the Hollywood elites (gag) support ANY liberal that comes along and others like W. Buffet also supports the liberals (in this case Obama). . . then tell me why Jay would be pointing his finger at those who would support Romney! All we could hear in the last Presidential campaign is how much money Obama collected for his campaign. Give me a break! Jay put your big boy pants on and get over it.

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
8:50 am

Seems to me the hanging out with celebrities with material frequency is the exclusive territory of liberals…Clinton, Barry, Kennedy…of course, with possible exception to John Voight, the all lean (or fall) on liberal side…

Definitely not intended to be anywhere near a factual statement…

http://usconservatives.about.com/od/hollywoodconservatives/a/HollywoodCons.htm

Below is a list of Tinseltown celebs who make no bones about their conservative commitments. The list is growing, and each week one of these Hollywood celebrities will be profiled — complete with a breakdown of their conservative credentials. Some you’ll know. Others might surprise you. Either way, enjoy … and know that if you’re a conservative, you’re not alone (even though it might feel like it sometimes)!
•Trace Adkins: Country Music Singer & TV Personality
•Danny Aiello: Film Actor
•Stephen Baldwin: Actor, Radio Personality
•Pat Boone: Singer, Songwriter
•Wilfred Brimley: Commercial Actor & Star of Cocoon
•Jerry Bruckheimer: TV & Film Producer
•James Caan: Legendary Film Actor
•Drew Carey: Game Show Host & Former TV Star
•Adam Carolla: Former Host of The Man’s Show
•Tom Clancy: Espionage and Military Science Author
•Jon Cryer: Notable Film & TV Actor
•Robert Davi: TV & Film Actor
•Bo Derek: Model, Film & Television Actress
•Dale Earnhardt Jr.: American Race Car Driver
•Clint Eastwood: Academy Award Winning Film Actor & Director
•John Elway: Hall of Fame Quarterback & Super Bowl MVP with the Denver Broncos
•Sara Evans: Country Music Singer
•Lou Ferrigno: TV Actor (Star of The Incredible Hulk & King of Queens Guest Star)
•Mel Gibson: Film Actor & Academy Award-Winning Director
•Kelsey Grammer: TV & Film Actor, Star of TV’s Long-Running Series, Frasier
•Angie Harmon: TV & Film Actor, Star of TV’s Law & Order
•Elizabeth Hasslebeck: Former “Survivor” Contestant & Co-Host of The View
•Dennis Hopper: Actor, Director & Two-Time Academy Award Nominee
•Patricia Heaton: TV Actor, Female Lead in TV’s Everybody Loves Raymond
•Naomi Judd: Country Music Singer, Actress & Author
•Lorenzo Lamas: TV Actor
•Heather Locklear: TV & Film Actress
•Susan Lucci: Emmy Award-Winning Actress & Soap Star
•Dennis Miller: Actor, Stand-Up Comedian & Political Commentator
•Chuck Norris: Legendary TV Actor
•Ted Nugent: Legendary Musician, Speaker
•Richard Petty: Seven-time NASCAR Champion
•Johnny Ramone (John Cummings), Legenday Musician, Founder of The Ramones
•John Ratzenberger: TV Actor, Voice-Over Personality
•Robert James “Kid Rock” Ritchie: Singer, Song Writer & Rapper
•Adam Sandler: Legendary Stand-Up Comedian, “Saturday Night Live” Alum & Hollywood Film Star
•Pat Sajak: Wheel of Fortune Game Show Host & Political Columnist
•Curt Schilling: World Series Champion & Former Phillies, Diamondbacks & Red Sox Pitcher
•Tom Selleck: TV & Film Actor
•Ron Silver: TV & Film Actor
•Jessica Simpson: Singer, Actress & TV Personality
•Gary Sinise: Academy Award Nominated Film Actor & TV Star
•Sylvester Stallone: Producer, Director, Writer & Legendary Film Actor, Star of Rocky & Rambo Films
•Ben Stein: Film Actor, Game Show Host & Political Commentator
•John Stossel: Investigative Reporter, Speaker
•Janine Turner: Film & TV Actor
•Jon Voight: Academy Award-winning Film Actor and Political Activist
•Bruce Willis: Legendary Film Actor & Two-Time Emmy Award Winner
•Lee Ann Womack: Country Music Singer
•James Woods: Noteable Film Actor
•David Zucker: Director of Airplane & Naked Gun Films

Rightwing Troll

June 15th, 2012
8:50 am

“This piece is evidence of a disjointed thought process. Billionaire donors and the Roberts Court? Really”

Well, since you brought it up, it was the Roberts court that allowed Billionaires to donate unlimited, unfettered, amounts of money to political candidates. Of course Adleson does it out of the
magnanimous leanings in his heart, as pointed out by the resident wingnut trolls who live here, he expacts NOTHING in return for his investment…no?

Have any of the resident wingnuts offered up any direct examples of what we can expect from Mittens “leadership” other than to say he’d be an awesome leader?

Cosby

June 15th, 2012
8:50 am

Still no match for George Soros funding the Obama camp, occutards etc…fair and balanced, right Jay?

St Simons - codewords are the new black

June 15th, 2012
8:51 am

codeword for today, and every day after an Obama speech from
now on, forever is – ‘orgasm’
Rush already used it twice in his morning monkey poo.

Apparently Republicans are using their tried and true tactic of keeping
voter turnout down, this time through nausea & vomiting.

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:51 am

Romney outlined his “NEW” forward looking program to fix the economy. One) Borrow more money. Two) Spend more money. Three) Pay back business by promising to rescind every regulation implemented under Obama, even if it means risking killing people. Four) Increase taxes by saying “we’ll flatten the base and increase revenue” . Five) Blame Obama. Six) Blame Congress Seven) Renew the Obama tax cuts and give the most cuts to the superrich.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:52 am

paul

The thing that freaks me out about texas is all those camera lights…I know I’ve got at least one ticket waiting for me but my damn gps was getting me po’ed and impatient…no excuse when on vacation..I do not know this area at all…

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:52 am

Paul
June 15th, 2012
8:51 am

And you’re surprised? He’s a Bush clone down to the t.

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
8:53 am

massachusetts refugee – “aren’t the democrats free to create and contribute untold milllions to their own super-pacs???

Yes.

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
8:53 am

Have you even considered that African Americans thought that Obama was better than the alternative?? Have you ever asked any of them about their perspective….or is your ASSumption showing???

Should have just kept it simple and asked him if he’s ever thought, period.

Paul

June 15th, 2012
8:53 am

Mick

I’ll forward my phone number to Jay so you can give me a call and we’ll set it up.

Family’s coming in this evening for Father’s day so today lunch is best.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:54 am

brosephus

I think clint eastwood has moved over to our team :lol:

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
8:56 am

so why the outrage, jay?

Because democrats are free to create and contribute untold milllions to their own super-pacs. And republicans are free to create and contribute untold milllions to their own super-pacs. Both are abominations.

And worst of all, specifically because of Republican obstruction to legislation which would at least force such super-pacs to reveal themselves when placing ads under the guise of some innocuous name like “Puppies for Justice”.

Can you process this? That it’s not because merely one side is being corrupted? BOTH SIDES ARE CORRUPTED BY THIS.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
8:56 am

paul

Just meet me at the capital grille at legacy, what time works for you?

stands for decibels

June 15th, 2012
8:56 am

Still no match for George Soros funding the Obama camp, occutards etc…fair and balanced, right Jay?

15! Do I hear 16?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:56 am

Peadawg: I was referring to the bill, not the tax cuts part of the bill.

Can you name the other parts of the bill?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

June 15th, 2012
8:57 am

Cosby

That’s a lie.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:57 am

Mighty Righty:
Four) Increase taxes.
Seven) Renew the Obama tax cuts.

I think you have your talking point mixed up. Which is it? #4 or #7?

Rightwing Troll

June 15th, 2012
8:58 am

Pea,
No surprise at all… the problem is that the wingnuts have blocked out the Bush years and refuse to acknowledge the damage wrought under W… in their collective psychosis, Obama took office in 2000 with a roaring economy and tanked it, resulting in where we are now.

Fact of the matter is we ARE better off now than we were 4 years ago, by any metric, some are better of by huge margins, the nuts just can’t accept the fact that all of us are better off than we were 4 years ago, because that doesn’t fit into the narrative they’ve been given by Rush and Glenn Beck, and they refuse to call on those that are massively better off to create those jobs they’re supposed to be creating…

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
8:58 am

“I was referring to the bill, not the tax cuts part of the bill.” – Oooooh, ok. ;)

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
8:58 am

Mick

I think Clint Eastwood’s on Clint’s team. I don’t think he’s changed his principles at all. That’s what I like and respect most about him. Parties move, and only those who are strong in their principles stick to what they think as opposed to shifting with the party.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:59 am

Thrid time: Can you name the other parts of the bill that included the tax cut extension Peadawg?

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:00 am

A lot of people arew getting food stamps that weren’t before, but other than that, few, very few people are better off.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:00 am

Brosephus: Clint is an actual old-time Republican. Nowadays it seems like that was the good ol days. But that’s just because of how batsh*t his party got.

Mighty Righty

June 15th, 2012
9:01 am

Adam

June 15th, 2012
8:36 am
Obama’s top economic advisers stated this not the CBO

What you are saying is that a SWAG is an accounting term in the Obama administration on which the administration relies to estimate the cost of its legislation. That explains why the administration missed the cost of Obamacare by roughly 100%. The same people who complain about the cost of medicare, passed Obamacare which will cost more than a hundred times as much as medicare does. Just SWAG it.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:01 am

A lot of people arew getting food stamps that weren’t before, but other than that, few, very few people are better off.

Count me among the few.

Also the few, apparently, that realize Romney would just make things worse. Sure, less people would be on food stamps…. because he’d sign any bill that cuts the program, not because less people would be poor.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
9:02 am

You can keep asking, Adam, doesn’t bother me. I really don’t what’s in the rest of the bill. I see tax cut extension for millionaires and unemployment extensions which both added to our deficit/debt.

Bruno

June 15th, 2012
9:02 am

OK, I ctrl-F’d the thread, and no lie–there are actually 13 genuine conservo-posts that say in essence “but SOROS!”

sfd, Adam and Brosephus–Once again I’m left scratching my head as to why mention of a Democrat counterpart to Jay’s Republican Bash-du-jour seems to be off-limits to you guys. 13 or 14 mentions of George Soros seems pretty tame in comparison to hundreds of posts bashing Sheldon Adelson and Republicans in general. Any reason you guys can’t handle hearing both sides of an issue?? Is there some written or unwritten blog rule that I’m not aware of by which only Cons/Repubs are allowed to be criticized here??

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:02 am

MIghty Righty – “That explains why the administration missed the cost of Obamacare by roughly 100%.”

You must have been really pissed when the last administration missed the cost of the Iraq war by about a trillion dollars, 8 years and 5,000 soldiers killed and wounded.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:03 am

That explains why the administration missed the cost of Obamacare by roughly 100%.

Actually the explanation for that is a lot simpler. But I expect you don’t know that estimate 1 and estimate 2 don’t measure the same time frame. So….

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:05 am

Adam

Well as long as you are OK.

Obama offers no plan other than keep on tilting left and attacking and over regulating the private sector. All the numbers have been trending poorly for 5 years, since Pelosi and Reid took over Congress.

The country needs a real leader. Woudl Romney be better? Could he be worse?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:05 am

Bruno: Once again I’m left scratching my head as to why mention of a Democrat counterpart to Jay’s Republican Bash-du-jour seems to be off-limits to you guys. 13 or 14 mentions of George Soros seems pretty tame in comparison to hundreds of posts bashing Sheldon Adelson and Republicans in general.

Do you have any evidence AT ALL that Soros is planning to pump millions upon millions into the Obama camp? Do we have evidence that Adelson is planning to pump millions upon millions into the Romney camp?

Answer those questions, and you have your answer. It’s a false equivalence. The only reason to constantly pretend the parties are the same is to argue, essentially, that “two wrongs make a right” or “you do it too!” even if, and especially if, the claim from the right is actually completely false.

Bruno

June 15th, 2012
9:06 am

You must have been really pissed when the last administration missed the cost of the Iraq war by about a trillion dollars, 8 years and 5,000 soldiers killed and wounded.

Butch–What are you doing mentioning Bush?? According to the prevailing Lib Logic here, countervailing criticisms are not allowed once a person or policy is put up for criticism. Or does that only apply to Republic people and policies?? Maybe someone can clear up my confusion……

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:07 am

I thought better of you than that Peadawg. You’re not even going to ATTEMPT to think outside your own box? Not even to fire up Google?

Proud to be me

June 15th, 2012
9:07 am

Brosephus™ June 15th, 2012 8:50 am — I said 95% of Hollywood elites are smitten by liberal candidates . . so those you name would be the 5% who have more than half a brain. Anyhow you’ve listed people who aren’t Hollywood elites (i.e., country singers)– no fair cheating! Not surprising though coming from a liberal!

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:08 am

Adam

Please keep in mind, this isn’t a court room. its a discussion. It seems that the only argument you have is “PROVE IT!!!”.

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:08 am

Once again I’m left scratching my head as to why mention of a Democrat counterpart to Jay’s Republican Bash-du-jour seems to be off-limits to you guys.

I never said it was off limits, so I’m left scratching my head as to why you’d include my name to that post. If I’ve ever said anything about campaign finance, it’s been that I would eliminate ALL outside money. I don’t give a crap who it is. I don’t like ANY outside money on any level. I don’t equate money with free speech, and I think outside money corrupts our election process and political process from start to finish.

If you need any further clarification on MY position(s), feel free to ask instead of just assuming. Thanks.

massachusetts refugee 10.167.4.48

June 15th, 2012
9:09 am

stands: yeah yeah, money is the root of all evil, blah blah. so what? it’s the law. money = speech. the cynic in me thinks the “system” has been corrupted long before citizens united ever reared it’s ugly head. my question for the jay-meister was why just pick on the repubs? where’s the column calling out soros or any of the dem contributors?

…orgasm…

Mick

June 15th, 2012
9:09 am

paul

Got booted off by an obnoxious update, who really controls your computer anyways? Here is the hotel phone number 972-943-8200 rm 315…no cranks please…

JohnnyReb

June 15th, 2012
9:09 am

All the hoppla over Citizens United is very foolish. In this age, money is like bullets. When in war you don’t limit the number of bullets you will fire. Plus, there’s no discrimination. The Left can also spend as much money as they wish.

This is advance sore loser.

It’s also very interesting that Barry can’t shut up on the stump about rich people, then immediately kowtows to the bunch he just vilified. I suppose since they are Liberals it makes it OK. Why doesn’t he say so on the stump?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:09 am

Obama offers no plan other than keep on tilting left and attacking and over regulating the private sector.

And your evidence for this would be….?

All the numbers have been trending poorly for 5 years, since Pelosi and Reid took over Congress.

Actually, all of the unemployment rates have trended downward for about a year or more, and the private sector has added more jobs than lost for over two years.

Woudl Romney be better?

No.

Could he be worse?

Yes.

Plus, if your vote is based on “well he couldn’t be any worse” you’re not only blind to his actual policy prescriptions but you are also falling prey to lies that the parties are “the same.”

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:11 am

13 or 14 mentions of George Soros seems pretty tame in comparison to hundreds of posts bashing Sheldon Adelson and Republicans in general.

Ummmmm, in case you didn’t notice, Adelson IS the thread topic. I would expect most posts to address him by name. Also, by my post to dB, I would have expected Soros’ name to appear quite a few more times. I would have expected most every big dollar donor’s name to be mentioned.

Thomas

June 15th, 2012
9:11 am

From the NYT- that conservative rag

President Obama swept through New York on Thursday evening for a pair of high-dollar, high-wattage fund-raisers where some of the city’s top fashion luminaries lent their cash and their star power to his re-election campaign.

Bookman- how was the event last night? Hungover from all the festivities? What, your weren’t invited? Shocking- maybe Adelson would give you more attention in Vegas.

At least it is Friday where we get travelin’ music

Paul

June 15th, 2012
9:11 am

Mick

Don’t fret too much. Some of those that look like red light cameras – all they do is regulate the lights to keep traffic flowing.

I emailed Jay with my numbers – but I don’t think it’ll breach anything if you posted the address where you’re staying and we can set up a time.

Mick

June 15th, 2012
9:11 am

brosephus

Good point but that commercial he made was pure gold…

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:12 am

Please keep in mind, this isn’t a court room. its a discussion. It seems that the only argument you have is “PROVE IT!!!”.

So in a discussion, it’s perfectly ok for people to make baseless claims and expect everyone to just believe them?

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:12 am

Proud to be me

In case you haven’t figured it out already, I was not responding directly to your post. However, if you’re nothing but a sock puppet, then why switch names in the first place?

Paul

June 15th, 2012
9:12 am

Mick

Just saw your 8:56. How’s 12:30?

Rightwing Troll

June 15th, 2012
9:13 am

“The country needs a real leader. Woudl Romney be better? Could he be worse?”

Considering he’s surrounded himself with W acolytes, and you can’t name a single specific thing he’d do different than Bush or Obama, and considering Obama hasn’t been a worse leader than Bush, why shouldn’t we “stay the course”?

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:13 am

Brosephus: I would have expected most every big dollar donor’s name to be mentioned

I think we got a few “BUT BILL MAHER”’s

Not that 1 million is anywhere close to 100 million but hey, LOOK AT TEH SQUIRREL!

Jay

June 15th, 2012
9:13 am

From February (and I’m not aware of any of this changing:

(Soros) … isn’t giving to the political action committee working to re-elect President Barack Obama….

Soros has expressed ambivalence about a second term for Obama and said in a Reuters interview in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 25 that he was “not the only one who has been slightly disappointed” in Obama, while noting that “I continue to support him.”

If the 2012 contest were between Obama and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, Soros said that “there isn’t that much difference, except for the crowd that they bring with him.”

Michael Vachon, a spokesman for Soros, said that the Hungarian-born financier has recently traveled to Myanmar, has been working with emerging democracies in Africa and has not been concentrating on the U.S. election. “

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
9:13 am

“You’re not even going to ATTEMPT to think outside your own box?” – Guess not. I don’t fluff things up and make excuses to make the bill sounds all peaches and cream like you. I see tax cut extensions and unemployment benefit extensions, with neither being paid for.

It makes me think back to one of his famous quotes/lies: “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits — either now or in the future.”

barking frog

June 15th, 2012
9:13 am

Saying billionaires can buy
elections is just another
way of saying voters are
stupid.

Jimmy62

June 15th, 2012
9:14 am

Plenty of people are giving Obama plenty of money. A lot less than in 2008, but that’s hardly the fault of Romney or the Supreme Court, that’s all Obama for turning people off.

However, I thought the complaint about Citizen’s United was “corporations are people” (even though the decision specifically says corporations aren’t people- many lefties can’t [or don't] read)…

So my question is… Is Adelson a corporation or a person? He appears to be a person to me.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:14 am

Adam

- -And your evidence for this would be….?- -

Counselor, as I said before, this is a discussion. But if you really need proof of what Obama’s policies are doing to our economy, perhaps your general knowledge of national and world economies is not where it needs to be in order for you to carry out an informed discussion.

- -Actually, all of the unemployment rates have trended downward for about a year or more, and the private sector has added more jobs than lost for over two years.- -

Putting a stop to a completey lib controlled Washington has helped.

I don’t believe the parties are the same. I believe that Democrats look at promises and make excuses for bad results. I believe that Republicans expect good results and usually get them.

Jimmy62

June 15th, 2012
9:15 am

Jay: So your complaint is not that a billionaire is giving money, it’s that he’s not giving it to Obama?

Mick

June 15th, 2012
9:16 am

paul

Se my 9:09…

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:16 am

Mick

True. However, when I saw that commercial, I didn’t get the idea of a ringing endorsement of any party. It was simply a good solid message that, frankly, I think would come from a 1980’s vintage Conservative regardless of party affiliation. That message couldn’t get any more pro-America if there was a flag waving and God Bless America playing in the background.

Thomas

June 15th, 2012
9:16 am

Do you have any evidence AT ALL that Soros is planning to pump millions upon millions into the Obama camp

Damn Adam- get some coffee and wake up

From CNN- that other conservative rag
Billionaire financier George Soros has donated $1 million to the left-leaning super PAC American Bridge, a source with the organization said Monday.

The donation marks the first major foray into the 2012 presidential race for Soros, a high-profile supporter of President Barack Obama. In 2008 Soros helped the president raise a record amount of campaign cash.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:17 am

Jay

So has Soros stopped paying for Media Matters and giving millions to NPR?

Soros is always the spooky guy pulling the strings of the democrats, but I don’t blame you for wanting to seperate him from the party that you support.

JohnnyReb

June 15th, 2012
9:17 am

Soros may not be openly donating to Obama, but please take a look at this if you have any thoughts of why the Right so hates Soros.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237

Mick

June 15th, 2012
9:17 am

bro

Yes, but isn’t it funny how some found it “controversial”? Life is good…

Butch Cassidy

June 15th, 2012
9:18 am

Bruno – “Maybe someone can clear up my confusion……”

Wish I could help, but I’m not Left or Right, Lib or Con. Just can’t help myself when a member of one side proudly degrades the other when clearly neither side can take the high ground.

Peadawg

June 15th, 2012
9:18 am

“Jay: So your complaint is not that a billionaire is giving money, it’s that he’s not giving it to Obama?”

That’s what it sounds like to me as well. I’m sure Jay wouldn’t have a problem if Obama was doing better than Romney w/ raising money.

Rightwing Troll

June 15th, 2012
9:18 am

“I believe that Republicans expect good results and usually get them.”

Another 2000-2008 denier raises his hand…

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 15th, 2012
9:18 am

Brosephus™

June 15th, 2012
9:20 am

Mick

Extremely funny considering the fact that Eastwood hasn’t really been shy about his political leanings at all.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:21 am

Peadawg: I see tax cut extensions and unemployment benefit extensions, with neither being paid for.

It seems you’ve put two things together that don’t belong together – something “not being paid for” (code for we borrowed more money from our own economy of banks to pay for it) and a downturn in the private sector economy. Of course there hasn’t BEEN a downturn in the private sector economy since signing the bill, so your argument fails there too. And before you go on about how I am saying the tax cuts aren’t damaging, I’m not. What I AM saying is that extending unemployment helped the economy, and the tax cuts extension had neither a negative or a positive effect (it simply maintained a status quo that had existed for almost a decade). The payroll tax cut extension, however, did have a positive effect because only people making less than 106k get that cut, and they spend it in their local economies.

So yeah, not exactly peaches and cream, but not net negative either. But if you’re going to go with a binary-only worldview, I could see why you would think that if I wasn’t arguing it’s a failure I must be arguing that it’s ZOMG THE BEST THING EVAR!

Talk about void of any critical thinking process. A narrow view starting with “all I see” makes it pretty clear you’re not taking in more than what you WANT to see.

Better Off? No.

June 15th, 2012
9:21 am

Rightwing Troll

Please explain what Bush did. Started a war with almost full approval of Congress including the Democrats? Didn’t stop the Democrats for pushing unsecured mortages?

Of perhaps instead of that nasty waterboarding, perhaps he should have done like Obama and burned the suspects alive, often with their families.

Don’t give talking points. Please explain what Bush did.

Adam

June 15th, 2012
9:22 am

Counselor, as I said before, this is a discussion. But if you really need proof of what Obama’s policies are doing to our economy, perhaps your general knowledge of national and world economies is not where it needs to be in order for you to carry out an informed discussion.

So in other words, you have no evidence and you think a discussion is a place where you can make a baseless claim and I don’t get to challenge you on it. I suggest you learn what a discussion ACTUALLY is, rather than what you’d like it to be.