Jeb: Reagan, Bush Sr. ‘would have hard time’ in new GOP

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From the New York Times:

“Former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida said his father, George Bush, and Ronald Reagan would find themselves out of step with today’s Republican Party because of its strict adherence to ideology and the intensity of modern partisan warfare.

“Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, similar to my dad, they would have had a hard time if you define the Republican Party — and I don’t — as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement,” Mr. Bush said at a question-and-answer session with reporters and editors held Monday morning in Manhattan by Bloomberg View.

“Back to my dad’s time or Ronald Reagan’s time,” he said, “they got a lot of stuff done with a lot of bipartisan support that right now would be difficult to imagine happening.”

I think that’s notable for several reasons. It helps to explain why Bush, like Mitch Daniels, Chris Christie and other more pragmatic Republicans, declined to run for president this cycle even though, as Jeb said last week, “This was probably my time.” They were unwilling to claim to believe the nonsense that is required to win the nomination in this day and age, and abandoned the field to the far-more-malleable and opportunistic Mitt Romney.

Jeb’s more honest appraisal of his party is a welcome if belated effort to pull it back from the brink and force it to become more responsible. As the former Florida governor noted last week:

“Here’s what I know to be true. Next year or the year after there’s going to have to be a grand bargain. We are on an unsustainable course. It is not possible to continue to do what we are going — what we’re doing today. It’s just not possible. And I think most people that have looked at our structural deficit problems would admit it. If they were put on a lie detector or, you know, under oath or something like that, they would admit it.”

Asked about comments to Congress that he would be willing to take a hypothetical $10 in budget cuts for every $1 in higher revenue, Bush said his willingness to take that deal shows that he is no longer seeking office as a Republican.

“It was living proof I’m not running for anything I think more than anything else,” Bush said.

I’ve said it before repeatedly: This nation needs a sane, rational and conservative Republican Party, and those adjectives — “sane, rational and conservative”– should not be and need not be contradictory, as they have become in recent years.

I agree with Jeb about the necessity of a grand bargain on the nation’s financial future. But I very much worry that Republican leadership and the Republican media machine have succeeded so well in drilling the “no new taxes” mantra into the head of their base that they no longer have any room in which to manuever and negotiate.

Given his statements in recent days, I suspect that Jeb Bush has had similar thoughts.

– Jay Bookman

1,055 comments Add your comment

JamVet

June 11th, 2012
7:39 pm

So, Mama and Big Brother JamVet are in town from Nebraska and life once again proves how family is the most important thing in life.

Party on friends, neighbors and Republicans.

This one popped into my head today…

Show biz kids making movies
Of themselves you know they
Don’t give a f&ck about anybody else

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9QVNbUPzgM

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 11th, 2012
7:39 pm

Frog

I am not a republican :)

Ribbit

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June 11th, 2012
7:40 pm

barking frog:

Headline: “Secret Service Issues New Regulations”

“The Secret Service has issued new rules of conduct for agents. They can no longer get drunk, procure hookers, have affairs or go to strip bars. The rules say that from now on, if agents feel compelled to engage in such behavior, they can run for public office like everyone else.”

They BOTH suck

June 11th, 2012
7:40 pm

Scout

I already knew the answer to be honest with you so you will not be embarrassing me.

No offense and again I thank you for your service, but unless you served in Afghanistan or Iraq why would you say the following?

“But if one want’s to opine on how we should physically fight the war once we are there ……… without the requisite experience …………….. that doesn’t cut it with me.”

Soothsayer

June 11th, 2012
7:40 pm

Scout: the important thing to remember is that after 58,000+ lives were lost, they now make our running shoes. That counts for something, doesn’t it?

St Simons - a-dela-sa-hi-hi

June 11th, 2012
7:40 pm

Reagan & Little Nero w/a Cowboy Hat do have one thing in common,
they are the bookends of the series “Destruction of the Middle Class”

We have spent the majority of our lives now in this supply-side hell.
Give it up, man. It didn’t work. Acknowledge. Move on dudes.

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 11th, 2012
7:41 pm

TaxPayer

June 11th, 2012
7:41 pm

GOP is big tent

There is lots of diversity

Dang jm! Where’s that box of wipes for my screen.

They BOTH suck

June 11th, 2012
7:41 pm

Scout

Maybe you did in some capacity. If you have, I apologize for what basically was a “set up” question.

Paul

June 11th, 2012
7:41 pm

Jm

I appreciate the perspective, too, Jm. But not when it’s “I did this and you didn’t and so I’m right and you should be grateful to me.”

As I said, lots of vets likely pass thru here and you’d never know it as they don’t feel the need.

They BOTH suck

June 11th, 2012
7:42 pm

Jamvet

Enjoy your time with your family.

josef

June 11th, 2012
7:44 pm

Kayaker

“… you have no right to criticize anything that Scout says”

I refrain as much as possible from commenting on Scout and his Vietnam experience per se…and, I’ll be honest, in all the time I’ve been here dueling with you, I just recently was aware of your service there. As you say, all deal with their demons in their own way…

But…as for criticizing ANYthing Scout says? Not in this lifetime! :-)

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 11th, 2012
7:44 pm

“supply side hell”

The country with the highest incomes and per capita GDP of any large country is “supply side hell”?

Um, nope. Beg to differ islands mon

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June 11th, 2012
7:44 pm

Sooth:

“Scout: the important thing to remember is that after 58,000+ lives were lost, they now make our running shoes. That counts for something, doesn’t it?”

Hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese fled the North before, during and AFTER the war. That’s why they closed the border. If the Commies let their people freely immigrate ………… they would lose hundreds of thousands more.

barking frog

June 11th, 2012
7:45 pm

Scout
i like the cost cutter and i
know that guy never agreed
to $800. They were always
held to the high standard
but were corrupted by
the Air Force guys…

kayaker 71

June 11th, 2012
7:45 pm

joseph, 7:44,

Perhaps that need a little revising. That was meant to be in regard to his military service. All else is fair game.

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 11th, 2012
7:46 pm

Taxpayer – in your bathroom silly :)

Paul – to each their own, mon

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June 11th, 2012
7:47 pm

They BOTH suck:

I hear you but it’s similar to playing in the American leaque or the National league.

War is war. We can’t “win” in Afghanistan because it’s a religious war. Don’t sacrifice
American lives needlessly. Hit them hard and get out. Drone them to death !

barking frog

June 11th, 2012
7:48 pm

Jm
just another democrat
fearing indrpendent..

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June 11th, 2012
7:48 pm

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

June 11th, 2012
7:49 pm

“As I said, lots of vets likely pass thru here and you’d never know it as they don’t feel the need”

and it gets more and more like “protesting too much”

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 11th, 2012
7:49 pm

Frog

Nope. I like Clinton

Don't Forget

June 11th, 2012
7:50 pm

Remember, U.S. troops were gone by the spring of 1972 (except for a few advisors). South Vietnam held their own for 3 years

Scout, just curious, were you surprised they lasted that long?

They BOTH suck

June 11th, 2012
7:50 pm

Scout

I would agree about Afghanistan. Taking the drones out of the equation, the tactics utilized under both the Bush and Obama administrations have not been worth the lives or money in regards to the progress made.

It should be drone city and Special Ops of some sort when needed

josef

June 11th, 2012
7:50 pm

KAYAKER

I knew that, I just couldn’t resist the temptation! :-)
*************************

Way out there off topic, but:

PAUL
Veal marinated in mojo and then grilled…serve with guacamole made with salsa verde…

ZamVET

Has your mom contributed her story to the Spielberg project? If not, encourage her to do so if she will…thanks

Soothsayer

June 11th, 2012
7:50 pm

Paul

June 11th, 2012
7:51 pm

BOTH suck

“Are we fighting in Afghanistan the same way we fought in Vietnam in regards to tactics, strategy, weapons, terrain, etc?”

And initial training, professional military education for NCOs as well as officers, and on and on is so far beyond what we had nearly 50 years ago that people from that time wouldn’t even recognize it.

Not… even… close….

kayaker 71

“I will assume by that verbose answer that you posted that the answer is no. Only an assumption.”

Didn’t you say you were an E-9? And you make assumptions like that?!!?

Oh well, I guess you needed a springboard to justify what you wanted to say.

This isn’t about the obligatory “so happy you served,” kayaker. It’s about what people fall back on, in nearly any situation, when arguments fail them.

"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010

June 11th, 2012
7:51 pm

May I please repeat a joke I heard that’s a perfect apéritif?

“If Hillary gave one of her balls to Barack he’d have two…”

Vote NO on T-Splost, July 31st !!!!

T-splost is a scam designed to tax every Georgian 1% for everything they buy. The bill is a disgrace and should be eviscerated on July 31st.

Eff the slimy politicians and contractors who want to rape the public !!!

F. Sinkwich

June 11th, 2012
7:52 pm

“U.S. domestic crude production
2008: 4,950,000 barrels a day
2011: 5,675,000 barrels a day”

Hey Jay, nice stat.

Still not enough production though. How much of that increase was on federal lands?

You know as well as I do O’bozo HATES fossil fuels and will do ANYTHING to reduce its extraction to zero.

He killed coal. He won’t issue well permits. Keystone!

He hates the non-renewable energy industry, which is largely responsible for America’s economic dominance over the past century.

He wants America to decline.

Want proof?

Just look at what he does, not what he says.

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June 11th, 2012
7:53 pm

Paul @ 7:39

I posted it again today at 5:23 and you saw that post ! It’s not my memory ……….. yours !

That said, here it is again …………

“4) First, please find the quote from me where I said “I was the expert” in USSS matters.”

Now, if you find the statement you said I posted ……….. I will apologize and retract it. I am not an “expert” but I do have an experienced opinion.

Paul

June 11th, 2012
7:53 pm

BOTH suck

Fire news commentators? Not Megyn Kelly! I know, I know, she’s just an attorney, what does she know about interviewing people or reading the news. eh?

They BOTH suck

June 11th, 2012
7:53 pm

Paul

Not sure if you saw my 7:41. I admitted to Scout that it was a “set up” question based on his post about “how to fight” the war or something along those lines.

They BOTH suck

June 11th, 2012
7:54 pm

Paul

If they don’t know, they don’t know

:-)

barking frog

June 11th, 2012
7:54 pm

Jm
Frog
Nope. I like Clinton
…….
which one? how much?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 11th, 2012
7:54 pm

Take a look back thru sometime and note the number of times you bring up foxholes, Secret Service, Air Marshal, whatever – when it has absolutely no bearing on the topic at hand, unless it’s a subtopic you’ve generated.

Paul — all I can think of is this:

And I hope when I get old I don’t sit around thinking about it
but I probably will
Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
a little of the glory of, well time slips away
and leaves you with nothing mister but
boring stories of glory days

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June 11th, 2012
7:57 pm

Sooth:

Gen. Wallace Greene, Commandant of the Marine Corps during the Vietnam debacle, once wrote that he and the Joint Chiefs of Staff discussed resigning en masse due to the inane policies of Johnson/McNamara that were causing the slaughter of our troops. They didn’t resign and he said it was his biggest regret.

“Dereliction of Duty: Johnson, McNamara, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies That Led to Vietnam”

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 11th, 2012
7:58 pm

Frog

I like bill more than hill

Information – a scam is deceptive… I don’t think paying a tax openly for infrastructure is exactly a scam

Do you like congestion?

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June 11th, 2012
7:58 pm

Cammie:

Too bad you can’t be one of us.

Paul

June 11th, 2012
7:59 pm

josef

Does that overpower the veal? Okay, what cut do you use?

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 11th, 2012
7:59 pm

Megyn Kelly won’t be fired

Fox

kayaker 71

June 11th, 2012
8:00 pm

I wonder about the new standards that we are led to believe are the present day norm. Not sure who set them, but they seem to percist and haunt us. It is all of a sudden OK for some dude to sire 30 plus children with 11 different women but no one says much. We celebrate when gas prices are at $3.15/gallon. 15T dollars of debt is all of a sudden OK and when our GDP equals or trails our debt, no one seems to get too upset. We have already spent our grandchildren’s tax contribution to this country for the rest of their lives but that seems to be acceptable. When some black dude shoots six people at a pool party in Auburn, many say, well, it’s only black on black crime…. you know how those people are. 49% of American citizens pay no federal income tax but no one seems too upset about that. Where does this insanity stop? When do we start to say NO, this is not the norm for the greatest country on the planet. We are better than that. Where are the voices?

barking frog

June 11th, 2012
8:01 pm

Jm
monica envy? have a cigar.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 11th, 2012
8:01 pm

Too bad you can’t be one of us.

More projection in those eight words than in an IMAX theater.

Just sayin’.

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June 11th, 2012
8:02 pm

They BOTH suck:

Do you know how many times the Marines had to take, retake and retake Fallujah? (there’s a hint there). How many lives were lost because weasly politicians couldn’t make up their minds?

Probably not as many times as Marines had to take and retake unnamed hills in Nam.

War is war.

P.S. The reason old vets remember stuff like this is that we don’t want it to happen again ……….. but it does. Why? Those who “send” don’t “fight”.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 11th, 2012
8:03 pm

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion:

What did she do?

F. Sinkwich

June 11th, 2012
8:03 pm

CNN:

“A Texas father caught a man sexually assaulting his 4-year-old daughter and punched him in the head repeatedly, killing him, authorities said.”

Good.

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 11th, 2012
8:03 pm

Frog

You’re sick

Bill was a centrist

Welfare reform under Obama? No chance

josef

June 11th, 2012
8:04 pm

barking frog

June 11th, 2012
8:05 pm

Jm
Obama cut food stamp
growth..Clinton knuckled
to Newt…

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 11th, 2012
8:05 pm

Scout

Nothing to my knowledge

Was just saying she won’t be fired. Because…. She’s a fox, I mean on FOX

"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010

June 11th, 2012
8:06 pm

jm – It’s a scam !

1% sales tax on everything we buy as Georgians….

Look at their BS list of projects…

if the folks who wanted this bill were honest about their intentions they would have placed this on the November ballot when everybody else, who doesn’t pay attention, were voting for President and Congress.

Itz a chickshlt way to sneak this BS, crap-laden bill through the system..

Some of us pay attention however.

VOTE NO on T-Splost, July 31, 2012.

Paul

June 11th, 2012
8:06 pm

Well Scout, as I recall, I made a comment about firing people. You said it couldn’t be done because it’s a judicial proceeding. I said something along the lines of okay, you’re the expert, I’ll stipulate to it, can’t fire’em cause it’s judicial, so just reassign them to a basement sorting files.

Then you went on about administrative procedures. But I frankly wasn’t interested in the rabbit hole of judicial vs. administrative. Which seems a bit contradictory.

So when I make a comment about what should happen and you pop in with “whoa… I’m a Secret Service guy… I served a long time with my life on the line…. you don’t understand ’cause you never did all the dangerous stuff I did and I’m the one telling you that you can’t fire the guy”

then that’s what I mean by ‘you’re the expert in the Secret Service area.’

F. Sinkwich

June 11th, 2012
8:07 pm

“When do we start to say NO”

November.

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 11th, 2012
8:07 pm

Frog

Obama grew food stamps

Clinton found intelligent compromise and realized sometimes the right is correct

Obama not so much

josef

June 11th, 2012
8:07 pm

PAUL

Cutlets…and if you had asked me, I’d've thought it would overpower as well. He didn’t marinate but a couple of hours. That’s why the salsa verde in the guacamole, lime complementing lime…

TaxPayer

June 11th, 2012
8:08 pm

A little reflection seems in order.

Potholes. Annoying little holes that are just deep enough to make you wonder if you bent a rim or knocked the front end out of alignment if you happen to hit one while out and about in/on your multi-wheeled transport. Potholes are readily dug by even the aging amongst us when given a well maintained e-trenching tool. Bravo to all the pothole diggers. Good job.

G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)

June 11th, 2012
8:08 pm

Kam@7:06, well maybe that is why he/she is “former.” And can we look forward to Jay banning Ben? I am not bothered much by him ‘cuz I scroll past his posts, but he does take up a lot of space.

Soothsayer

June 11th, 2012
8:09 pm

barking frog

June 11th, 2012
8:09 pm

josef
Memphis Zoo’s Steve
Reichling, who keeps the
gopher frog stud book.
………..
wow! got their own book..
bet they can’t bark.

JamVet

June 11th, 2012
8:10 pm

Paul

June 11th, 2012
8:10 pm

Kamchak 7:54

You know the men and women I admire?

WWII vets.

Getting them to talk about it is about as difficult as anything one could imagine.

But once in a while they very humbly will let a few things out. And it’s never about how great or brave they were. And guys who do talk about it a lot – like the Tuskegee Airmen – it’s more to inspire others, particularly young people.

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June 11th, 2012
8:10 pm

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion:

I feel sorry for her husband. Can you imagine ever getting in an argument with her ………… :o

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June 11th, 2012
8:11 pm

F. Sinkwich @ 8:03

Not good ………………………. outstanding !!

F. Sinkwich

June 11th, 2012
8:13 pm

“A day after the deadline for its latest contract proposal passed, Caterpillar has started advertising for replacement workers to fill in for striking workers at its plant in Joliet. The International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers represents 780 workers at Joliet who went on strike on May 1.”

PATCO time!

No more union thugs and slugs is a good thing.

Dixie Chicks

June 11th, 2012
8:14 pm

Jm-pass Tsplost unless you really love congestion

June 11th, 2012
8:14 pm

Information

Not everything is subject to sales tax. Namely groceries.

Second, I agree the project list isn’t perfect, but it can’t be. And a lot of the tax revenue comes from Atlanta and they should have a right to say how sme of it is spent

This is personal responsibility on its most pure level

If you don’t vote to fix congestion and you suffer in stagnant growth, awful traffic, don’t complain to a soul, because you’ll have lost that right

Finally, if this round of projects is ineffective, one can expect a greater interest on new roads in the future

If it doesn’t pass, more road investment will be that much further away

And more than half of tsplost is for roads

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 11th, 2012
8:14 pm

Kam@7:06, well maybe that is why he/she is “former.”

No doubt.

And can we look forward to Jay banning Ben?

Absolutely, we even make book on that event.

I say six weeks, you want the over, or the under?

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June 11th, 2012
8:15 pm

Paul:

Ever heard of Audie Murphy? The most decorated soldier in WW II ?

Maybe you saw the move he starred in …………… about himself !

You couldn’t be more wrong ………… some talk, some don’t ………. depends on their personality and what they went through and how they choose to handle it.

Probaby thousands even wrote books about their experiences ……….. not to mention the lectures, etc.

P.S.

I saw your above post but …………. you said that I said “I was the expert”. Which I didn’t.
Apology accepted.

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June 11th, 2012
8:16 pm

Paul

June 11th, 2012
8:17 pm

josef

Makes me wonder what I’m doing here when I could have a nice supper like that. Work was over about 45 minutes ago.

St Simons - a-dela-sa-hi-hi

June 11th, 2012
8:17 pm

I will volunteer my time to Fernbank if it will help keep them open.
an exhibit, yeah
I can stand reeeeal still.

kayaker 71

June 11th, 2012
8:17 pm

Outta here. Reading my sixth Vince Flynn book. Better than Clancy. Some slices of sirloin cooking with a little wine sauce, some asparagus with a creme glaze, new potatoes with just the right amount of crust in a butter sauce with a Koonugga Austrailian shiraz to wash it down. Life is good.

josef

June 11th, 2012
8:18 pm

PAUL

That’s an interesting perspective. As you know, I work with Shoah projects. One of the most difficult things to do is to conduct and interview with a survivor. We’ve found that they will open up more to a younger person.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 11th, 2012
8:19 pm

P.S.

Don’t forget that WWII draft rate was 66%.

In Nam is was 25%.

Paul

June 11th, 2012
8:19 pm

Scout

“You couldn’t be more wrong ”

As I said, in your mind, your experience trumps all and invalidates all else.

G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)

June 11th, 2012
8:19 pm

Don’t Forget @7:16, good to know.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 11th, 2012
8:20 pm

Paul:

Regarding your opinion on “that” subject ? Yes it does.

Out for dinner …………. everyone be nice.

Paul

June 11th, 2012
8:22 pm

Scout

As far as the apology, dream on. You come across as the expert, telling people the way things are because you were part of the Service and know all about administrative vs judicial and what can and can’t be done with personnel in certain situation….

you certainly cultivate the aura of ‘expert.’ Maybe you really were a personnel specialist so you’d know.

But if you’re admitting you’re no expert, well, frankly, that’s rather anticlimactic.

Paul

June 11th, 2012
8:24 pm

josef

You work with that project, too?

My deepest respect.

And by the way, I don’t think you’re wrong. Audi Murphy notwithstanding.

Recon 0311 2533

June 11th, 2012
8:24 pm

Of course Jay omits Jeb’s comment blaming the Obama administrations divisiveness for pushing Congressional Republicans into a no compromise position. Obama’s agenda when he took office was to transform the United States into a European like socialist state. Even as the European’s embrace of socialism has clearly failed our ideologically driven president refuses to accept that failure and change the course for his economic policy. We’re now faced with economic stagflation and this failed president says that the private sector is “fine’ and that we now have to hire more government workers at the state and federal level. Public sector unemployment is at 4.2% or half of our national employment of 8.2%.

Paul

June 11th, 2012
8:25 pm

josef

Apologies. Shouldn’t have sent the last. I view that as a borderline sacred undertaking, not subject as a launch point for blog jabs.

Recon 0311 2533

June 11th, 2012
8:26 pm

Correction on my last…our national unemployment not employment.

josef

June 11th, 2012
8:27 pm

G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)

June 11th, 2012
8:27 pm

Good to know, Josef, thanks.

So, Ben, who are you really?

josef

June 11th, 2012
8:29 pm

PAUL

Not to worry. Believe me. it’s one of the reasons I’m here so much. When that is what’s on the other screen, the goings on here are often what keeps me balanced. (Well, semi-balanced! :-) )

F. Sinkwich

June 11th, 2012
8:31 pm

“Public sector unemployment is at 4.2% or half of our national employment of 8.2%.”

Guess you haven’t heard, Recon. The private sector is doing fine.

Recon 0311 2533

June 11th, 2012
8:32 pm

F. Sinkwich, “When do we start to say NO”

November.

I like that.

josef

June 11th, 2012
8:32 pm

TaxPayer

June 11th, 2012
8:34 pm

Private sector job growth rate is currently exceeding the growth rate that it was under the Bush administration after his little recession.

Paul

June 11th, 2012
8:35 pm

josef

Just pulled out another batch of work and must pull away. Else it’s too difficult to wind down for sleep and yanks me off my 0430-0500 time when I like to get up. Besides which, that post of yours about the project put me in a somber mood, contemplating things I’d much rather dwell on than the nonsense of the last couple hours here. Have an enjoyable evening.

Recon 0311 2533

June 11th, 2012
8:37 pm

“Private sector job growth rate is currently exceeding the growth rate that it was under the Bush administration after his little recession.”

Bat Crap

TaxPayer

June 11th, 2012
8:38 pm

Meanwhile local government job growth rate during the Bush years was 164,000 jobs created per year and during the Obama administration, local governments have eliminated 150,000 jobs per year. At least the stimulus helped to slow that loss a little bit. Too bad the Bush tax cuts didn’t do any good.

barking frog

June 11th, 2012
8:38 pm

josef
Never again. The Israelis
have the answer. Kill any
SOB that tries.

Don't Forget

June 11th, 2012
8:39 pm

kayaker 71

June 11th, 2012
8:00 pm

I think most people are upset about most if not all of the things you mentioned. But most is the discussion about who to blame and on the rare occasion that solutions are discussed, the other side’s opinions are dismissed out of hand. You can’t solve anything under those conditions. If you want people to respect your opinions try being a little civil.

Recon 0311 2533

June 11th, 2012
8:43 pm

Interesting how this blog is a microcosm of far left propaganda that distorts reality and truth in the minds of its followers.

They BOTH suck

June 11th, 2012
8:44 pm

Kayaker

Check out Frederick Forsyth. Great writer

barking frog

June 11th, 2012
8:46 pm

Abraham Lincoln could not
be a Republican today but
Andrew Jackson could not
be a Democrat either.

Jay

June 11th, 2012
8:47 pm

“Bat Crap.”

“Bat Crap” is not a rebuttal to what is undoubtedly an accurate statement.

Soothsayer

June 11th, 2012
8:48 pm

The Journey

June 11th, 2012
8:51 pm