Jeb: Reagan, Bush Sr. ‘would have hard time’ in new GOP
“Former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida said his father, George Bush, and Ronald Reagan would find themselves out of step with today’s Republican Party because of its strict adherence to ideology and the intensity of modern partisan warfare.
“Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, similar to my dad, they would have had a hard time if you define the Republican Party — and I don’t — as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement,” Mr. Bush said at a question-and-answer session with reporters and editors held Monday morning in Manhattan by Bloomberg View.
“Back to my dad’s time or Ronald Reagan’s time,” he said, “they got a lot of stuff done with a lot of bipartisan support that right now would be difficult to imagine happening.”
I think that’s notable for several reasons. It helps to explain why Bush, like Mitch Daniels, Chris Christie and other more pragmatic Republicans, declined to run for president this cycle even though, as Jeb said last week, “This was probably my time.” They were unwilling to claim to believe the nonsense that is required to win the nomination in this day and age, and abandoned the field to the far-more-malleable and opportunistic Mitt Romney.
Jeb’s more honest appraisal of his party is a welcome if belated effort to pull it back from the brink and force it to become more responsible. As the former Florida governor noted last week:
“Here’s what I know to be true. Next year or the year after there’s going to have to be a grand bargain. We are on an unsustainable course. It is not possible to continue to do what we are going — what we’re doing today. It’s just not possible. And I think most people that have looked at our structural deficit problems would admit it. If they were put on a lie detector or, you know, under oath or something like that, they would admit it.”
Asked about comments to Congress that he would be willing to take a hypothetical $10 in budget cuts for every $1 in higher revenue, Bush said his willingness to take that deal shows that he is no longer seeking office as a Republican.
“It was living proof I’m not running for anything I think more than anything else,” Bush said.
I’ve said it before repeatedly: This nation needs a sane, rational and conservative Republican Party, and those adjectives — “sane, rational and conservative”– should not be and need not be contradictory, as they have become in recent years.
I agree with Jeb about the necessity of a grand bargain on the nation’s financial future. But I very much worry that Republican leadership and the Republican media machine have succeeded so well in drilling the “no new taxes” mantra into the head of their base that they no longer have any room in which to manuever and negotiate.
Given his statements in recent days, I suspect that Jeb Bush has had similar thoughts.
– Jay Bookman
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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
5:38 pm
“The private sector is doing just fine”
What a GREAT Republican campaign add that is going to be !!!!!
Paul
June 11th, 2012
5:39 pm
Taxpayer
And his government pension!
That Black Guy
June 11th, 2012
5:40 pm
They BOTH suck
June 11th, 2012
4:58 pm
In a “perfect world” he may have a point, but since it hasn’t ever been “perfect”……………..
_________________________________________________________________________
Yes it was, then Eve got hungry and thus started the war on women
Don't Tread
June 11th, 2012
5:40 pm
“Do you perceive fellow Americans who disagree with you politically as your enemies?”
0bama does.
CJ
June 11th, 2012
5:41 pm
will public sector hiring improve the private sector like obama’s top man axelrod claimed this weekend?
Of course pubic sector hiring helps the private sector.
Teachers, cops, firefighters and other public workers buy groceries, eat at restaurants, take vacations, put their kids in day cares, purchase clothes, cars, and electronics, save and invest and do all the other things that gainfully employed people do.
Consequently, the cooks and waiters and restaurant managers and day care providers and retailers also enjoy additional incomes to hire more workers, expand their businesses, save,… The waitress doesn’t care if her tips come from a public sector worker or a private sector worker.
Economically speaking, we’re all connected.
Peter
June 11th, 2012
5:42 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801. How long do you think the it will take to get the Bush years behind us, because economists I have read say 10 years to make up for the buffoonery.
Deficits don’t matter, Cost Plus Contracts…… all the bail outs of corporate America, all while individuals suffered, and the GOP doesn’t want to help anyone, for maybe the 1% ultra rich.
They BOTH suck
June 11th, 2012
5:42 pm
TBG
hahahah
That was a good one
Paul
June 11th, 2012
5:42 pm
Scout
That 5:19 – are we to assume you just accept a double standard of accountability when it comes to a Democratic president you can’t stand compared to one of the leaders of your faith? (Apostle Peter)
josef
June 11th, 2012
5:43 pm
FORMAL BLACK GUY
Don’t go blaming it all on Eve…Adam was stupid enough to follow her lead… amazing what the breeder male will do to knock off a piece of no*kie..
Paul
June 11th, 2012
5:43 pm
Hey Peter -
When you read me in any future exchanges with Scout referencing ‘Peter” it ain’t you.
Unless you’re about 2000 years old….
Brosephus™
June 11th, 2012
5:45 pm
Yeah, BC post was crazy funny. People were looking at me strange when I burst out in a fit.
But BC has to have a sense of humor, he drives a 3 wheeled “bike”.
Posts like those two are the main reason I still hang around this place. I grew tired of the partisaned BS a long time ago. I could leave this place, come back 6 months from now, and the same people will be beating the same drums.
——————
And yes, public sector jobs do drive private-sector expansion. If you don’t believe me, believe the Republican congressmen who are trying to halt cuts in defense spending because they fear it would hurt the economy and cost jobs. Ask Reagan-era officials about the stimulus impact of deficit-funded defense spending.
Jay
June 11th, 2012
5:45 pm
Yeah, Josef. Cuz we all know the non-breeder male is immune to that kind of thing, right?
Right?
Joe Hussein Mama
June 11th, 2012
5:45 pm
0311 — “At ease private, I’ll be in the company area all day.”
Clearly you’re not talking to me.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 11th, 2012
5:46 pm
… amazing what the breeder male will do to knock off a piece of no*kie..
Embarrassingly true.
Joe Hussein Mama
June 11th, 2012
5:46 pm
All be well and drive safely. Cold beverages and a warm woman await me at home.
Joe Hussein Mama
June 11th, 2012
5:47 pm
K’Chak — “Embarrassingly true.”
Yes, often we marry them.
josef
June 11th, 2012
5:49 pm
IMAM
Why, I’ve never given into temptation in my life…
Billybob
June 11th, 2012
5:50 pm
paul,
i answered your question honestly and you duck mine, that is where we are, keep making excuses…..
jay,
he did not retract his private sector comment, the economy is not doing fine is not the same as retracting his statement about the private sector doing fine……the economy and the private sector are different things and you let that slide……he does think the private sector is doing fine and that complete disconnect b/t obama and the public is becoming more and more apparent every day……and you don’t even realize it, but your posts help that disconnect grow, so keep parroting liberal ideology all the way to the end my friend, please….
Jay
June 11th, 2012
5:52 pm
“the economy is not doing fine is not the same as retracting his statement about the private sector doing fine
And up is down and black is white and what universe do you live in again?
That Black Guy
June 11th, 2012
5:52 pm
josef
June 11th, 2012
5:43 pm
FORMAL BLACK GUY
Don’t go blaming it all on Eve…Adam was stupid enough to follow her lead… amazing what the breeder male will do to knock off a piece of no*kie..
_______________________________________________________
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much truth in one little sentance.
That Black Guy
June 11th, 2012
5:53 pm
josef
June 11th, 2012
5:43 pm
FORMAL BLACK GUY
Don’t go blaming it all on Eve…Adam was stupid enough to follow her lead… amazing what the breeder male will do to knock off a piece of no*kie..
__________________________________________
We’re like Pookie in New Jack City when he fell off the wagon.
Jay
June 11th, 2012
5:53 pm
Why, I’ve never given into temptation in my life…
I’m sure that’s true, because “given into” implies a passive acceptance rather than eager pursuit of temptation :>)
Jm
June 11th, 2012
5:54 pm
Wall Street bonuses are up. ”
A. The economy is not driven by wall at bonuses
B. You might want to check your data sources. Relative to last year, and mist prior years, THEY ARE DOWN. Twice as many people got absolutely no bonus this year relative to last year, something like 20%, which is unheard of on wall st
TaxPayer
June 11th, 2012
5:54 pm
And his government pension!
Oh NO, Paul. Scout has convinced himself that the Ryan budget slashing excludes that 245 billion spent on federal retiree and veteran benefits just in 2010 alone.
Jm
June 11th, 2012
5:55 pm
Oh and average bonus is down too
Thulsa Doom
June 11th, 2012
5:55 pm
How long do you think the it will take to get the Bush years behind us, because economists I have read say 10 years to make up for the buffoonery.- Peter
Peter,
Perhaps you can cite these various economists who think it takes 10 years to get an economy growing again. Oh. And then there’s that little matter of how quickly Reagan got the economy booming after the 81-82 recession. The speed and depth of his recovery seems to disagree with your assertion that it takes a decade for an economy to grow after a bad recession.
Billybob
June 11th, 2012
5:56 pm
anyone that thinks we get out of this mess by the gov’t spending even more money in the hopes that the small economic activity created by fractional spending will generate the types of gains we need in the private sector, which is the actually economic engine of this country, is cpmpletely misguided, or a liberal democrat, or both….central gov’t planning has never worked and never will jay……no matter how good you leftist/liberal radical dems think you can manage it……and that my friends is a fact……see november 7th
Mama Says
June 11th, 2012
5:56 pm
Lets all remember Jay said Christie was more pragmatic when 2016 gets here.
I also think its cute that Jay said ” the republican media machine”
Yes Jay of the AJC, said republican media machine. Good one Jay, when are you at the Improv ?
I am sure PBS, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, ABC, Current TV, The NY Times, AJC, Politico, Huffington Post and all the other fair and unbiased media outlets will cover it. I just hope FOX doesn’t show up and ruin everything with their propaganda.
Paul
June 11th, 2012
5:56 pm
BIllybob
”
i answered your question honestly and you duck mine”
I appreciate your answer: however, when you allege “Obama’s top guy” said something and then can’t show me where, I’m not going to spend time answering what someone allegedly said, relayed by a blogger who can’t find a cite.
It’d be like me saying to you “what do you have to say about Romney’s top guy saying he would send ground forces into Syria and bomb Iran at the same time?” then when you said “when did he say THAT?!!?” telling you any adult could find it and pestering you to address what I said Romney’s top guy said?
You do see the similarity, don’t you?
josef
June 11th, 2012
5:56 pm
IMAM
Bingo! You caught it! I’m impressed. I almost put stet after it, knowing OREP is just a’waiting…
getalife
June 11th, 2012
5:57 pm
If you find that universe, check and see if planet kolob is there.
I can’t find it.
bilbob thinks making and donating record billions is not fine.
What happens when they control the wealth?
There are no jobs silly…….. duh.
pogo
June 11th, 2012
5:57 pm
Jay, you are using the right wing blogosphere to justify your Media Matters piece for today? Do you really think that Jeb will “pull the lever” for Obama in Nov? Obama and those leaders in congress he was surrounded with until 2010 were the most uncompromising leaders this country has ever had. Pelosi and Reid compromise? I think not. In fact, in the short period that Obama controlled both houses he totally discounted anything the republicans had to say. and he was proud of it. And the coin has flipped. Obama is in trouble Jay. As for your earlier piece, do you have some beam that you can zap into Romney’s mind to say that his policies will be the same as Bush’s? If you do, don’t aim it Biden. It will explode!
G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)
June 11th, 2012
5:57 pm
Okay, back to an earlier topic, just for the record: My 3 children graduated from Cobb County schools, went on to graduate from college, and all are productive members of society.
Josef, ah de limerick, de limerick!!
Old Retired English Professor
June 11th, 2012
6:00 pm
My apologies to all for my outburst. Sometimes, you know, the old bilge gets to me. I went through a lifetime of meekly pointing out basic language mistakes, and this evening I’d finally had enough. Still, I shouldn’t have let the real me come out in public. (But I can think it.)
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:01 pm
Paul:
“Scout
why are you pasting from a discussion from last week?”
Because I didn’t see you around all weekend and didn’t think we had finished. But that’s o.k. …………… if you’re done I’m done !
P.S.
“Taxpayer
And his government pension!”
Ah ………….. life is great. Keep it coming.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 11th, 2012
6:01 pm
paul,
i answered your question honestly and you duck mine…
No you haven’t, sport.
Where did you get the quote?
Put up, or shut up.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:01 pm
Hey …………….. Cammie vs. Paul !
This should be fun !!
Mighty Righty
June 11th, 2012
6:01 pm
Jay
“On a more serious note, the British were our enemies, Mighty. Do you perceive fellow Americans who disagree with you politically as your enemies?”
Did they teach history at Penn State? The enemy were fellow Americans called “loyalists, tories, or kingsmen. The good guys were the “Patriots”.
Jay
June 11th, 2012
6:02 pm
Actually, Pogo, I’m using most of America, not just the right-wing blogosphere, because most of America saw the Bush statements just as I saw them. The meaning was quite clear. If Jeb believes those comments have been misinterpreted, he is surely capable of saying so. We shall see if he does so, but I think not.
But no, I do not believe that Jeb will be voting for Obama come November. He neither stated nor implied that. Neither did I. That is a concept that you created out of thin air, it would seem.
Billybob
June 11th, 2012
6:02 pm
jay,
i presently live in the radical liberal democrat universe where gov’t spending is what creates jobs and wealth and anyone who doesn’t fall in line is some type of ‘-ist’ who hates obama b/c he’s black or isgay-bashing if you vote marriage as b/t a man and woman…..i also live in a universe where liberal media hacks like you ignore anything obama and the dems say that is contrary to fact and who can’t even understand that obama’s supposed retraction about the private sector doing fine was not an actual retraction…..is that the universe where i am allowed by your ilk……
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:03 pm
Joe Hussein Mama :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzPBUGUM7KQ
Paul
June 11th, 2012
6:04 pm
Scout
I thought we had finished. I don’t count new rabbit holes as a continuation of a past discussion.
Scout
Kamchak was quoting Billybob in the italics. Then he addressed him.
What’s your expression? Try and keep up?
Thomas
June 11th, 2012
6:04 pm
re: Jay “you are a great blogger”
re: Jay “I retract the above statement”
or
re: Jay “You are not a good blogger- as matter of fact you are a poor blogger v. your peers”
That is a tough one- we live on planet earth Bookman- come join us
We’ve seen 4.3 million jobs created — 800,000 this year alone — record corporate profits. And so that has not been the biggest drag on the economy.
to finish the sentence in a manner that would be in keeping with a high scholl debate “since the beginning of 2008, the private sector has lost about 4.6 million jobs” uh…. let’s see that is a net loss of _______
How in the world does someone keep a job by providing less than half truths- better yet why in the world do us fools go on to this elementary and foolish blog
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:04 pm
Billybob:
Jay is not going to like THAT !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:05 pm
Mighty Righty:
Thank you …………. and that was just about everyone south of Washington, D.C.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:05 pm
P.S.
There were whole Tory Regiments that fought against General Washington.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 11th, 2012
6:06 pm
Hey …………….. Cammie vs. Paul !
Did your mama drop you on your head when you were a baby?
Billybob
June 11th, 2012
6:06 pm
paul,
the honous is on you to answer my question, link or no link…..every here knows what obama and axelrod said…..grow a pair….
Brosephus™
June 11th, 2012
6:06 pm
TBG @ 5:53
Whatever you had for breakfast and lunch should be shared with us all. You’re on a roll today!!!!!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:06 pm
Paul:
YAWN ! O.K. we’re done.
They BOTH suck
June 11th, 2012
6:06 pm
Taxi Driver
Great movie
Jay
June 11th, 2012
6:07 pm
Mighty, the British — that was your term, remember — were not our fellow Americans.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:07 pm
Paul:
P.S.
Remember to keep cheering ………… but also that you weren’t/aren’t on the field.
Boris Badnoff
June 11th, 2012
6:07 pm
One of Our Beloved Messiah’s Greatest Accomplishments is that he kept all of his campaign promises. All bills were posted on the internet for at least 5 days so that all Americans could read them and provide feedback to their elected representatives. We have seen an end to partisan bickering; just read the comments on this blog. Even the sea levels have started to fall (or was it rise). But most encouraging of all was His Wonderfulness’s pledge to close that horrible torture chamber Gitmo created by that horrid cowboy Dubya.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2156275/Cable-TV-painting-classes-DVDs-brand-new-soccer-pitch-Gitmo-detainees-treated-pricey-improvements-costing-tax-payers-800-000-PER-prisoner-annually.html?ITO=1490
Lord knows what Our Living God could accomplish with another 4 years. Thank goodness we have Jay Bookman to enlighten us.
josef
June 11th, 2012
6:07 pm
G-MARE
I love a limerick!
Millicent Alice du Bois
Commited a dreadful faux pas.
She loosened a stay of her décolleté,
And exposed her je ne sais quoi.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:08 pm
Jay:
Correct ……… they were are fellow British citizens.
josef
June 11th, 2012
6:11 pm
OREP
Whew! I’m glad it was only a yellow card! Still, though, I sure wish I knew what it was that brought it on, and I certainly want to know what you said! It wasn’t delusional lickspittle, was it?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:11 pm
josef:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/156730#.T9TRKtVYuHB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_H-LY4Jb2M
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:11 pm
Excuse me at 6:08 “our”
Mighty Righty
June 11th, 2012
6:12 pm
It hasn’t been that long ago, our fearful leader basicly told the Republicans in Congress to shut up. The exact quote was something like, “elections have consequences”. Well, elections do have consequences and that is exactly what happened in 2010 when the people threw the Democrats out. The people did not replace Democrats with Republicans so Republicans would do the Democrats bidding. This November more Democrats will be thrown out for the same reason. Compromise to a Democrat means doing what the Democrat wants. Ain’t going to happen.
TaxPayer
June 11th, 2012
6:12 pm
Did your mama drop you on your head when you were a baby?
I was about to ask how many times he got dropped but your inquiry will do just fine.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:12 pm
josef:
“In time, even death itself might be abolished; who knows but it may be given to us after this life to meet again in the old quarters, to play chess and droughts, to get up soon to answer the morning roll call, to fall in at the tap of the drum for drill and dress parade, and again to hastily don our war gear while the monotonous patter of the long roll summons to battle.
Who knows but again the old flags, ragged and torn, snapping in the wind, may face each other and flutter, pursuing and pursued, while the cries of victory fill a summer day? And after the battle, then all will meet together under the two flags, all sound and well, and there will be talking and laughter and cheers, and all will say, Did it not seem real? Was it not as in the old days?”
Private Barry Benson, Army of Northern Virginia, 1880
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 11th, 2012
6:14 pm
Oh my Gosh….. The lunatix escaped Bookman’s oubliette and have settled right here in Make-Believe-Fantasy-Utopia Land…
Eric Holder is watching us so beware…..
He might refer any dissent to The White House Office of Information Disinformation…
Send the antagonists in this blog to obamahitlist.org…. The POTUS reviews the list and has to sign off on your elimination….
Oh no……… It’s Alex Trebek……
G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)
June 11th, 2012
6:14 pm
Josef, I used to write limericks for fun, but could never top that one!
I guess I missed something (moi?); who is OREP?
They BOTH suck
June 11th, 2012
6:15 pm
“The people did not replace Democrats with Republicans so Republicans would do the Democrats bidding.”
You stand by that based on the 08 Presidential election as well, correct?
Or is it just when Republicans when an election?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 11th, 2012
6:15 pm
Still, though, I sure wish I knew what it was that brought it on…
Reign as opposed to rein.
…and I certainly want to know what you said!
Nothing nearly as harsh as what goes on here everyday.
Jay
June 11th, 2012
6:15 pm
Josef, OREP was provoked by the misuse of reign vs. rein, a mistake that I’ve seen recently in the NYT and other places that should know better.
224 more days
June 11th, 2012
6:16 pm
Josef
Congratulations to you and your partner for the accomplishments your children have made
Paul
June 11th, 2012
6:16 pm
Billybob
“the honous is on you to answer my question, link or no link…..every here knows what obama and axelrod said…..grow a pair…”
I’m going to ask the blog for a cite:
HEY BLOG!
Bilybob says everyone here knows Axelrod and Pres Obama said “hiring public sector union people is what will fix the private sector”
Pleeeeease? You all know they said it. Can you provide a link? I’d really like to get the cite and answer Billybob so he’ll stop pestering me.
Pleeeeease?
Mighty Righty
June 11th, 2012
6:17 pm
Jay
You were apparently taught that all Americans opposed the British during the revolutionary war. Let me enlighten you. A majority of Americans did not support the war and in fact wanted to reconcile with the Brits at the conclusion.
Jay
June 11th, 2012
6:17 pm
and as I recall, the phrase “semi-literate dolt” was involved.
josef
June 11th, 2012
6:18 pm
SCOUT
I’m not sure how much of that is due to his “Jewish policy,” and how much is due to other issues. Remember, the “Jewish vote” is influenced by lots of things not related to being “Jewish.” My own, at best lukewarm, support of President Obama has never been related to his “Jewish policy,” in which arena, I’m comfortable with him. I’ve no doubt that many of my fellow tribals feel much the same way.
That Black Guy
June 11th, 2012
6:18 pm
Brosephus™
June 11th, 2012
6:06 pm
TBG @ 5:53
Whatever you had for breakfast and lunch should be shared with us all. You’re on a roll today!!!!!
________________________________________________________________________
Bro, I’m just in a great mood today.
Spent good times with the fam this weekend. Got out on the bike. And…
I’m about to go have sushi with a vendor, HIS treat.
Ummmmmmmmmm. Hamachi and Ahi Poki with cold Kirin Ichiban to wash it down.
Paul
June 11th, 2012
6:19 pm
Scout
“Remember to keep cheering ………… but also that you weren’t/aren’t on the field.”
Well, I suppose that means something. But coming from a guy who likes to keep repeating “Marines prepare to repel boarders” and “back when I was in the foxhole” (the equivalent of Ed Bundy’s “Back when I played high school football”?) I’m not really sure what it means.
Mighty Righty
June 11th, 2012
6:19 pm
They BOTH suck
The ‘08 mistake was corrected in ‘10 and will receive further correction this November.
GT
June 11th, 2012
6:19 pm
I truly believe Bush just like most intelligent men and women in this country gets sick of this game of playing stupid to stay popular. That is all it takes to be a Tea Party A lister, though even for a smart person to stay that consistently dumb takes some highly developed skills. The GOP can come up with some of the most creative stupidity ever unrewarded in this country. The one where the gay guy or gal chooses to be gay is my all time favorite. I had the choice to be rich or poor, I picked poor, blind or have sight, redneck or educated. That last one gives us an idea where this all makes sense to them. No one enjoys being a redneck more than a redneck, it is a choose they have made so being gay by choice makes perfect sense to their world.
Jay
June 11th, 2012
6:20 pm
I am quite aware, Mighty.
Again, YOU chose the analogy of our Founding Fathers vs. the British, not I. So if you wish to continue to argue with yourself, feel free to do so.
Maybe that’s one you’ll actually win.
weetamoe
June 11th, 2012
6:21 pm
Jeb Bush states a premise, beginning with *if*, about today’s republican party, but immediately rejects the premise, so I think the gleeful interpretation of his statement needs to be tempered somewhat.
barking frog
June 11th, 2012
6:23 pm
reign-rule
rein-control
easily interchanged since
most rulers are horses
asses
They BOTH suck
June 11th, 2012
6:24 pm
josef @ 6:18
Good post. I thought the most telling part of the article that Scout posted was that Obama was polling only slightly lower today than he was in June 08 when he received 74% of the Jewish vote. If that trend hold, he get ONLY 72%.
Win or lose, I doubt there will be a dramatic shift. But time will tell
josef
June 11th, 2012
6:25 pm
JAY, OREP, et al….
Oops! I’ve done that one a lot. I know better, it just slips out.
GMARE
OREP? Oh, he’s always here! You don’t want to cross him, I’ll tell you that from painful past experience! BTW, I like him a lot! OREP is Old Retired English Professor. If you ever have a question, he is most gracious and most informed in answering.
*****
A semi-literate dolt? That’s all? Sounds descriptive to me.
I guess I can’t go calling anybody a delusional lickspittle plantation liberal semi-literate dolt. Shoot!
Don't Forget
June 11th, 2012
6:25 pm
Scout, guess you missed the last part of the article you posted:
However, Gallup polls also indicate that Obama held only 62% of the Jewish vote in June of 2008, before the final number rose to 74% in November. A similar dynamic could kick in this year, too.
In other words, he’s doing slightly better this year than in 2008.
They BOTH suck
June 11th, 2012
6:25 pm
Mighty Righty
I take it from your tap dancing answer that you only apply what you said when it comes to the Party or individual you want to win.
Thanks for the reply
GT
June 11th, 2012
6:26 pm
“gleeful interpretation” is just gleeful that he has finally come out of the closet and sounds like he has some sense. It has got to be hard playing cowboy all the time, when there is real adult work that needs to be done.
They BOTH suck
June 11th, 2012
6:27 pm
Don’t Forget @ 6:25
Exactly. I hope the article wasn’t implying a trend. If so, than the difference will be negligible at best
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 11th, 2012
6:27 pm
Funny that Jay posted this weak video clip considering David Axelrod’s impressive, enlightening and insightful performance yesterday…
Fail !!! Mr Bookman how can you BS us readers with your distractions…???
Fail and BOOOOO !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srrKX84LEf0
josef
June 11th, 2012
6:27 pm
224 more days
June 11th, 2012
6:16 pm
Josef
Congratulations to you and your partner for the accomplishments your children have made
*******
Thank you, but any congratulations there are to them and not us.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 11th, 2012
6:27 pm
easily interchanged since
most rulers are horses
asses
That is not where the reins are attached.
But I am will to bet that horse’s asses encounter rains.
barking frog
June 11th, 2012
6:30 pm
josef
i think Fred’s sin was saying
the other poster was a
‘delusional lickspittle wannabe’ so hadn’t quite
made delusional lickspittle
or plantation liberal.
Tommy Maddox
June 11th, 2012
6:31 pm
“From the New York Times:”
Enough said there.
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 11th, 2012
6:31 pm
Oh no ……
More weirdness and truthiness —-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r_F1GzCXV8
Matti
June 11th, 2012
6:32 pm
I actually envy the Brits somewhat, regarding the dignity and consistency surrounding their head of state. While they do elect a new head of government every few years — just like we do — and squabble and yell and hate each other over their government — like we do (although it’s more entertaining in their dialect), they have something we don’t: A consistent figurehead/symbol, little old lady with an archaic title (however you want to look at it), that represents them as a people and a nation, over time. When a real crisis occurs, they have somebody to look to, a national parent of sorts, who’ll stand up and speak for them, and to them. There’s a sense of identity and unity that I’ve never seen here, except for about a week after the attacks 11 years ago.
We elect one guy, and the hate fest has already begun for the next election. There’s no continuity. No consistency. Our Constitution is basically TP for whomever is in charge. The closest thing we have to a consistent national symbol for our national identity is the celebratory Independence Day e-coli-laden burger or nasty hot dog we sizzle on a greasy grill, bury in ketchup, and consume while we’re getting chewed by skeeters waiting for the fireworks to start. Even then, people nearly come to blows about what music ought to be playing in the background. Even the most “patriotic” Americans you’ll ever meet (self-congratulating veterans not exempt!) are quick to turn and spew hatred upon a fellow citizen.
We are orphans and bastards, fighting over anything and everything, with no one to step in with calming, soothing, unifying words. We have what we deserve, I suppose.
Jay
June 11th, 2012
6:33 pm
“information,” I don’t see what’s so notable about that performance. On the policy issue, I’m glad they’ve named prosecutors to try to track back those leaks, and I’d agree that it’s also appears likely that at least part of the leaks came from the White House. Whether they were motivated by politics is a harder call; speaking as a reporter, you often find that people just like to brag about what they saw and did.
Don't Forget
June 11th, 2012
6:33 pm
A semi-literate dolt? That’s all? Sounds descriptive to me.
A little redundant though.
josef
June 11th, 2012
6:34 pm
FROG
Ah! Thanks for the clarification! We DO have to keep the wannabes in their place!
Brosephus™
June 11th, 2012
6:35 pm
Kam
Did you see this video here?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/dtotd-12-red-cards-kick-happy-brazilian-brawl-170937313–sow.html
barking frog
June 11th, 2012
6:35 pm
Kamchak
straight from the horse’s
mouth…
Bernie
June 11th, 2012
6:36 pm
The Republican Party has gone off the reservation and have been gone for awhile! They are lot like the Taliban, their intent insist on the governance of the people of America through Religious fiat!
barking frog
June 11th, 2012
6:38 pm
Matti
I believe 90% of americans
would vote to reenter the
British commonwealth.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
June 11th, 2012
6:38 pm
Paul:
“Fighting hole” !
The Army digs “foxholes”.