Jeb: Reagan, Bush Sr. ‘would have hard time’ in new GOP

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From the New York Times:

“Former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida said his father, George Bush, and Ronald Reagan would find themselves out of step with today’s Republican Party because of its strict adherence to ideology and the intensity of modern partisan warfare.

“Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, similar to my dad, they would have had a hard time if you define the Republican Party — and I don’t — as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement,” Mr. Bush said at a question-and-answer session with reporters and editors held Monday morning in Manhattan by Bloomberg View.

“Back to my dad’s time or Ronald Reagan’s time,” he said, “they got a lot of stuff done with a lot of bipartisan support that right now would be difficult to imagine happening.”

I think that’s notable for several reasons. It helps to explain why Bush, like Mitch Daniels, Chris Christie and other more pragmatic Republicans, declined to run for president this cycle even though, as Jeb said last week, “This was probably my time.” They were unwilling to claim to believe the nonsense that is required to win the nomination in this day and age, and abandoned the field to the far-more-malleable and opportunistic Mitt Romney.

Jeb’s more honest appraisal of his party is a welcome if belated effort to pull it back from the brink and force it to become more responsible. As the former Florida governor noted last week:

“Here’s what I know to be true. Next year or the year after there’s going to have to be a grand bargain. We are on an unsustainable course. It is not possible to continue to do what we are going — what we’re doing today. It’s just not possible. And I think most people that have looked at our structural deficit problems would admit it. If they were put on a lie detector or, you know, under oath or something like that, they would admit it.”

Asked about comments to Congress that he would be willing to take a hypothetical $10 in budget cuts for every $1 in higher revenue, Bush said his willingness to take that deal shows that he is no longer seeking office as a Republican.

“It was living proof I’m not running for anything I think more than anything else,” Bush said.

I’ve said it before repeatedly: This nation needs a sane, rational and conservative Republican Party, and those adjectives — “sane, rational and conservative”– should not be and need not be contradictory, as they have become in recent years.

I agree with Jeb about the necessity of a grand bargain on the nation’s financial future. But I very much worry that Republican leadership and the Republican media machine have succeeded so well in drilling the “no new taxes” mantra into the head of their base that they no longer have any room in which to manuever and negotiate.

Given his statements in recent days, I suspect that Jeb Bush has had similar thoughts.

– Jay Bookman

1,055 comments Add your comment

Joe Hussein Mama

June 11th, 2012
3:27 pm

B. Shockley — “I earn more than$106K. so therefore I pay the maximum every year.”

Wrong. You don’t HAVE a Social Security retirement plan.

You have Social Security retirement INSURANCE. Google “OASDI” and see what it means.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 11th, 2012
3:28 pm

Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak

June 11th, 2012
3:28 pm

Now, if you REALLY want to have some fun, try getting a straight answer from Kamcrap as to whether or not he favors socialism.

Told ya.

Socialism — BOO!

Steve

June 11th, 2012
3:28 pm

“Steve, you can’t compare todays rate to 1960. The 1960 rate had so many legal writeoffs many of the wealthiest paid little to no tax at all.”

That still goes on today.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/06/big-paychecks-tiny-tax-burdens-how-21000-wealthy-americans-avoided-paying-income-tax/

“The richest woman in Wisconsin, Diane Hendricks, is worth an estimated $2.8 billion, but she did not pay a dime in state income tax in 2010, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel first reported.”

you were saying?

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

June 11th, 2012
3:29 pm

Butch, this might be a little bland for their political taste. There are some vile places to blog that make this left leaning spot seem tame.

LUCIFER

June 11th, 2012
3:29 pm

What Ann Coulter said: If we elect Chris Christy as our presidental nominee we win. If we pick Mitt Romney for our nominee we lose. ‘Nuff said.

Ben Shockley

June 11th, 2012
3:29 pm

“Uh OH! Ben has done confessed to us that his earnings are subject to the payroll tax. That’s too bad, Ben. You do realize that if you had earned your money by the optimum Bush tax cut method, you would not only get to earn over $85,000 annually without owing any federal income tax, you would also owe no payroll tax. I feel for ya.”

I don’t believe in the capital gains tax, because 1) it’s not inflation adjusted and therefore you can pay taxes on “gains” that are really losses, 2) you already paid taxes on that money when you originally earned it, and 3) it is bad for the economy.

Now what is it you feel is your victory in this discussion? I hope you don’t rely on your intellect for personal income.

East Cobb RINO

June 11th, 2012
3:29 pm

Oblama, forget the national polls and take a look at the electorate map. It is the state polls that matter. Those polls show that The President is roughly 23 electoral votes away from the 270 needed and Romney is 66 away. Romney can win key states such as Ohio & Florida and still not win in November. That is a disheartening fact the republicans must face. Romney will have to practically sweep the swing states to have a chance.

Ben Shockley

June 11th, 2012
3:30 pm

“Socialism — BOO!”

He refused to answer. Told ya!!!

Personal responsibility – BOO!

Adam

June 11th, 2012
3:31 pm

They have been completly pushed out of the dem party. If your not a rabid foaming at the mouth lib you’re not wanted anymore…

At least one senator, Mary Landrieu, begs to differ.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 11th, 2012
3:32 pm

Ima Librul — “Butch, this might be a little bland for their political taste. There are some vile places to blog that make this left leaning spot seem tame.”

The same is true for both sides of the political aisle. There are some psycho sites catering to the extreme right just as there are some that cater to the extreme left. IMO, both kinds are ripe for the trollin.’ :D

Steve

June 11th, 2012
3:32 pm

In the end, the holy underwear flip flopping plutocrat who failed as governor of Mass is not going to replace Obama, however mundane and un-exciting Obama has been.

Ben Shockley

June 11th, 2012
3:33 pm

“Wrong. You don’t HAVE a Social Security retirement plan.

You have Social Security retirement INSURANCE. Google “OASDI” and see what it means.”

Yeah, and after my employer matches, I pay $13,144 per year ($11,236 since Obaam lowered the tax) for the privelege of funding an insurance plan where the insurance company (United States Government in this case) has pilfered all the revenue to buy votes. If Haliburton did this, Dick Cheney would be on death row.

Adam

June 11th, 2012
3:33 pm

Ben Shockley: Personal responsibility – BOO!

Very few people on the left have a problem with personal responsibility (if any). What the actual consensus is, is that Personal Responsibility is just a code word used to avoid any sort of assistance for poor people. It is also a term used to avoid the concept of a collective society, which WE ARE, whether you like it or not. Personal responsibility and collective responsibility are not mutually exclusive.

But that explanation doesn’t fit on a bumper sticker so BOO!

Paul

June 11th, 2012
3:34 pm

Ben

I did not ask you what you pay in SS taxes.

I asked you how much you contributed to your retirement plan.

This was based on your[[ "...Complete and utter lie”

No, complete and utter fact, unless you are making the argument that social security is a “tax” and not a contribution to a retirement plan. As always though, thanks for playing."]]

I asked you if you wanted to rephrase, you didn’t respond, so I can only conclude you really do think when you pay SS taxes you contribute to your retirement plan.

Which you don’t. Your money goes to current retirees. And to general, non-SS obligations.

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10035.html

I hope you understand your private retirement plan better than you do how you qualify for SS and where the money comes from.

Ben Shockley

June 11th, 2012
3:35 pm

“Oblama, forget the national polls and take a look at the electorate map. It is the state polls that matter. Those polls show that The President is roughly 23 electoral votes away from the 270 needed and Romney is 66 away. Romney can win key states such as Ohio & Florida and still not win in November. That is a disheartening fact the republicans must face. Romney will have to practically sweep the swing states to have a chance.”

The disheartening fact that Democrats mus tface is that these aere the same pollsters that had the Scott Walker recall election as a dead heat.

LMAO!!!

Thulsa Doom

June 11th, 2012
3:35 pm

“Where can I buy one of those broad brushes I see making strokes here every day?’

Butch,

Several of the libs on here have them for sale for $10 a pop along with assorted bumper sticker slogans for $1 each. But if you want a high end brush you gotta go to one of them $35,000 a plate fund raisers that Obama holds for the 99%ers. They sell for $2,000 each at these fund raisers.

Adam

June 11th, 2012
3:35 pm

If Haliburton did this, Dick Cheney would be on death row.

Best argument for privatizing SS EVER

Ben Shockley

June 11th, 2012
3:36 pm

“It is also a term used to avoid the concept of a collective society, which WE ARE, whether you like it or not.”

Ummmm, that is contrary to The Constitution, whether you like it or not.

bluecoat

June 11th, 2012
3:36 pm

A Bush that said something that made sense.Bush and making sense in the same sentence.Is that an unpardonable sin?

Adam

June 11th, 2012
3:36 pm

The far left has zero interest in being moderate,

Wouldn’t that statement be just as accurate?

I agree with both.

Yes, but the far left is far from having even a remote controlling interest in the current Democratic Party, in contrast with the far right and the current GOP.

Chuck

June 11th, 2012
3:37 pm

Do not fool yourselfs, nether Pres. Obama or Gov. Romney is qualified to run this country. If the elections was a real job interview, where you have to show acomplishments and results that you have achieved to get the job, the employers would pass over these two and keep looking for someone else.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 11th, 2012
3:37 pm

B. Shockley — “Yeah, and after my employer matches, I pay $13,144 per year ($11,236 since Obaam lowered the tax) for the privelege of funding an insurance plan”

Thank you for your admission and self- correction.

Steve

June 11th, 2012
3:37 pm

Ben – hate to break this to you, but Nate Silver predicted a 95% chance of Walker winning in Wisconsin and not getting recalled. THe polls were actually pretty accurate. Just like Nate is predicting (as he correctly predicted the 2008 election), that the electoral college vote is NOT in Romney’s favor. Not even close.

How ’bout them apples?

Gimme Gimme Gimme

June 11th, 2012
3:37 pm

“Several of the libs on here have them for sale for $10 a pop along with assorted bumper sticker slogans for $1 each. But if you want a high end brush you gotta go to one of them $35,000 a plate fund raisers that Obama holds for the 99%ers. They sell for $2,000 each at these fund raisers.”

Actually the “Conservatives Hate Women” broad brush is selling for $3,500.00 :)

Oblama

June 11th, 2012
3:37 pm

Sux – Jay was trying to use Clinton, while he was in office, as an example of the Dems being just as conservative back then as now. I pointed out that Clinton stated on T.V. during questioning while he was President that he was opposed to “same sex marriages”. That’s a fact. If you don’t like it – to bad. Jay brought up something he can’t prove because it isn’t true. Polls show that the Dem leadership (Congress & President) are further to the left than they have ever been……… recent Pugh Poll. The same poll said the Repub leadership had moved further to the right. What Clinton’s opinion is now concerning “same sex” marriage is irrelevant to the argument Jay was making since Clinton is no longer in office. Are you an Obama supporter? Yes or No will suffice.

curious

June 11th, 2012
3:38 pm

Ben,

I’m your employer. Get back to work.

You know me; I’m a merlot sipping mid-towner waiting on my government check.

Thank you for contributing.

TaxPayer

June 11th, 2012
3:38 pm

Now what is it you feel is your victory in this discussion? I hope you don’t rely on your intellect for personal income.

No need to get testy, Ben or is it Harry. I merely noted that you were not taking advantage of the optimized Bush tax cut scenario whereby you can earn over $85,000 annually via capital gains and qualified dividends and not pay any federal income tax or payroll tax. I think that deal clearly beats any deal the poor wage earner gets hands down, don’t you.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 11th, 2012
3:40 pm

B. Shockley — “The disheartening fact that Democrats mus tface is that these aere the same pollsters that had the Scott Walker recall election as a dead heat. LMAO!!!”

Really? Because Nate Silver didn’t say that at all.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/04/late-polls-find-walker-is-still-favored/

Might want to follow the polling analysis more closely, Mr. Shockley.

Ben Shockley

June 11th, 2012
3:40 pm

“I asked you if you wanted to rephrase, you didn’t respond, so I can only conclude you really do think when you pay SS taxes you contribute to your retirement plan.

Which you don’t. Your money goes to current retirees. And to general, non-SS obligations.”

Two problems;

1) According to the government, I am making contributions, and the size of my contributions impacts my benefits

2) Obama called it a tax when he lowered it from 6.2% to 4%, and the left uses it to claim that Obama “cut taxes for working Americans”, and the left uses social security taxes (payroll taxes) in a lame attempt to rebut the assertion that the bottom 50% of wage earners pay zero federal income taxes.

Oh, and I appreciate your concern about my personal retirement plans, but I hold a masters degree in finance and my portfolio is currently in the 7-figure zone. I think you’d be better off worrying about YOUR retirement plan.

Don't Tread

June 11th, 2012
3:40 pm

“Also seems that Holder’s arrogance has finally caught up with him. He belongs in jail.”

He belongs UNDER the jail as far as I’m concerned. No ordinary citizen could have done what he did and NOT be under the jail. But I’ll settle for “in jail”…I’m sure his thug buddies will enjoy the “fresh meat”.

Get me Rex Kramer

June 11th, 2012
3:41 pm

Jay, Bill Clinton moved to the center and started acting like a moderate as soon as he got his tail handed to him in the 94 mid term elections. Listen to him now, he constantly takes different positions than Pres Obama. As far as healthcare goes, Obama and the liberal wing wanted a single payer system. Then they tried for a trigger. Got neither, b/c Nelson and a few other conservative dems would not sign off. Obama would love for us rich 1%’s to “pay our fair share” even though we already pay most of the taxes anyway.

josef

June 11th, 2012
3:41 pm

“Obama supporter? Yes or No will suffice.”

Again, there’s your sign. You gotta be one or the other in the myopic worldview of the partisans of both sides…

Brosephus™

June 11th, 2012
3:42 pm

Steve

June 11th, 2012
3:42 pm

What I have learned today.

1. Ben Shockley continually lies and has been repeatedly proven a liar.
2. Other conservatives post ridiculous, unverifiable comments
3. Conservatives suddenly love the liberal Republican from Massachusetts (who now claims to be conservative)

josef

June 11th, 2012
3:43 pm

curious

Merlot sipping? Domestic or foreign…Argentine? Gimme some… :-)

stands for decibels

June 11th, 2012
3:44 pm

3. Conservatives suddenly love the liberal Republican from Massachusetts (who now claims to be conservative)

4. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

5. No animal shall kill another animal without cause.

Steve

June 11th, 2012
3:44 pm

Merlot?? meh

Joe Hussein Mama

June 11th, 2012
3:44 pm

B. Shockley — “Obama called it a tax”

So you’re taking debating lessons from a ZOMG SOSHULIST? Now I’ve seen everything. :D

Steve

June 11th, 2012
3:45 pm

6. Democrats are all far right socialists
7. Bush was an amazing President and he built an amazing economy

stands for decibels

June 11th, 2012
3:45 pm

I’m sure his thug buddies will enjoy the “fresh meat”.

Good ol’ prison rape jokes! they just never get old.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 11th, 2012
3:45 pm

SfD — “5. No animal shall kill another animal without cause.”

6. Four legs good, two legs bad.

:D

straitroad

June 11th, 2012
3:46 pm

But former Black Panther and anti-semite Charles Barron will welcomed by the democrat party caucus when he wins a NY congressional seat…and not a peep from Mr. Bookman. Bigotry must be a one-way street where Jay was indoctrinated.

Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak

June 11th, 2012
3:48 pm

Merlot?? meh

Agreed.

Make mine a Valpolicella, or if it’s a special occasion and I got the dough, an Amarone.

TaxPayer

June 11th, 2012
3:49 pm

Ben! Seven figure portfolio and you’re not even taking advantage of that tax benefit from the Bush tax cuts to earn yourself some cheap qualified dividend income or capital gains income. Bummer dude. I guess they just don’t educate folks in finance like they used to back in the day of quality public education. I mean, what good is a Bush tax cut if you don’t take advantage of it.

That Black Guy

June 11th, 2012
3:49 pm

They BOTH suck

June 11th, 2012
2:41 pm
TBG @ 2:38

Love the end of your post

hahahaha

What’s up dude? Hope you had a good weekend
_____________________________________________
TBS, how’s it going. I’m doing well. At work, busy as heck (durn Obama econmy).

The weekend was good. Grilled out (in the rain). Got a good deal on baby backs so I had to put some heat to them. I had so much I gave a slab to a co worker.

You?

Oblama

June 11th, 2012
3:50 pm

I am neither A Dem or a Repub……. did not vote for “W” or Obama. I am a fiscal conservative that believes we should pass a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution in order to reign in this run away Fed government takeover of the people. I am for a simplified tax code and Term Limits for Congress. Fiscal conservatives are a threat to the politicians in office (in both parties) as we would limit their power and remind them that they aren’t boss – we are.

Paul

June 11th, 2012
3:50 pm

Ben

If you hold a master’s degree in finance, I hope all you’re doing is assembling statements and forwarding information, ’cause you evidently don’t realize the implication when you write “when you pay SS taxes you contribute to your retirement plan.”

You supervisors would get real tired, real fast, of sending the work back down to find out what you mean by phrases like “contribute to your plan” as opposed to ‘qualify for a level of benefits”, or between “you contribute to your plan” as opposed to “qualify for a level of benefits and taxes/contributions are not held but are used to fund current retirees’ benefits.”

They’d especially get tired if the response was not “sorry for the misimpression, let me clarify.” But maybe this is just your outlet to vent, as at your level you can’t?

Common Damn Sense

June 11th, 2012
3:51 pm

Ben

Do you support your local restaurants? You know which ones I mean, the one’s where the libruls work as waiters and waitresses? Does that make you feel superior?

:-)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 11th, 2012
3:52 pm

…and not a peep from Mr. Bookman.

Go to blogspot.com.
Create your own blog.
Choose any topic that suits your fancy.

See how easy that is?

josef

June 11th, 2012
3:53 pm

Mendoza Merlot’s…some of the best stuff you ever put in your mouth, affordable and available at your nearby Whole Foods…

Paul

June 11th, 2012
3:54 pm

oh, and Ben

“my portfolio is currently in the 7-figure zone. I think you’d be better off worrying about YOUR retirement plan.”

As josef pointed out, secure people don’t feel the need to engage in such behaviors, especially as everyone here realizes that on the Internet you can be whatever you want to be.

As I told my kids when they were growing up, attending university and entering the workforce: “don’t ever, ever compare your earnings and investments against another’s, because no matter how much you earn or have, you can always meet a person who has more. That is not a measure of a successful life.”

;-)

Steve

June 11th, 2012
3:55 pm

@ Paul

Oh SNAP!

Erwin's cat

June 11th, 2012
3:55 pm

Kam – X2 on the Valpolicella

Common Damn Sense

June 11th, 2012
3:55 pm

OMG JAY is posting on Kyle’s blog or is that Kyle posting as JAY

:-)

josef

June 11th, 2012
3:56 pm

PAUL

Methinks Ben is shucking and jiving for the Piedmont Driving Club… :-)

John Birch

June 11th, 2012
3:56 pm

We need to kick out Obama and elect Oblama! Balanced budget amendment, term limits, and a simplified tax code – yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

June 11th, 2012
3:56 pm

…some of the best stuff you ever put in your mouth, affordable and available at your nearby Whole Foods…

Foods stamps and wearing a prom dress required for purchase.

josef

June 11th, 2012
3:57 pm

Ben

Mine’s in the seven figure zone, too…now if I could just figure out how to get rid of that pesky decimal point…

They BOTH suck

June 11th, 2012
3:58 pm

TBG

Doing well. Went to Savannah Thursday evening and came back last night. Girlfriend’s aunt had a bday so we went to celebrate.

Good to know that work is going well for you. Some on here claim that a just a threat of taxes will stymie any expansion, so glad your company is defying the odds. :-)

Keep up the good work

Steve

June 11th, 2012
3:58 pm

balanced budget amendment = completely tanked economy, great depression 2

Do conservatives REALLY hate America THAT MUCH?

josef

June 11th, 2012
3:58 pm

K’chak

But, of course, de rigueur! :-)

That Black Guy

June 11th, 2012
3:59 pm

Brosephus™

June 11th, 2012
2:42 pm
TBG

I responded to you downstairs, but to give you the Cliff Notes™ version, you gotta let me borrow the goalpost relay line. You should trademark that one and put a graphic to it.
___________________________

Bro, like I did Adam, I saw it after I posted here.

Consider that line a gift. Use it in good health.

stands for decibels

June 11th, 2012
3:59 pm

balanced budget amendment = completely tanked economy, great depression 2

oh puhleeze. even if they did get that stupidity ratified, they’d never actually implement it.

Joe Hussein Mama

June 11th, 2012
3:59 pm

Paul — “As josef pointed out, secure people don’t feel the need to engage in such behaviors, especially as everyone here realizes that on the Internet you can be whatever you want to be.”

Surely we do not need to point out that school is out for the summer and for all we know, he’s actually a high school sophomore with a paper route. And not for the AJC, but for one of those *Brumby* papers. :D

Brosephus™

June 11th, 2012
4:00 pm

Paul @ 3:50

You’ve got me busy with my note taking.

josef

June 11th, 2012
4:01 pm

JHM

Yeah, but he didn’t have to go to summer school! :-)

GT

June 11th, 2012
4:02 pm

The International Keystone Knights of the Ku Klux Klan have submitted a formal application to participate in the state’s Adopt-a-Highway program in North Georgia.

That is not too far, Blairsville, from Young Harris home of Zell, less than 20 miles. It is my guess the Tea Party got these guys feeling civic minded. This is one of those havens for like minded thinkers, kind of like a hole in the wall for bigots. Thank the Lord they are not socialists, might give this state a bad name, bigots wouldn’t feel so wanted.

Oblama

June 11th, 2012
4:03 pm

Josef – Right. I’m not for Obama because he is a big government socialist of, by an for the government. If you don’t stand for something – you stand for nothing. SUX came after me because I pointed out a factual error in Jay’s argument. SUX isn’t going to reply with a “YES” or “NO” answer to my question. He is a fence sitter. He has a right to his opinion – what is it?

saywhat?

June 11th, 2012
4:03 pm

I have a millions of dollars in investments and run my own international company, which I built from the ground up. I will retire a billionaire when I am 30. I AM BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU! :)

John Birch

June 11th, 2012
4:03 pm

continued deficit spending = Greece II = early retirement with full pensions for everyone!

Steve

June 11th, 2012
4:05 pm

John Birch – austerity during slumping economy = bad.
Tackling the deficit when economy is good = good.

Common sense, man.

Brosephus™

June 11th, 2012
4:05 pm

TBG

Thanks!!! That has to be one of the funniest, all-time lines that I’ve heard here.

josef

June 11th, 2012
4:05 pm

OBLAMA

Not a fence sitter myself, but that IS where our country lies…is there something wrong with that?

Paul

June 11th, 2012
4:05 pm

josef

“Mine’s in the seven figure zone, too…now if I could just figure out how to get rid of that pesky decimal point…”

LOLOL! You have a great way of keeping things in perspective.

But having kids and grandkids does that, doesn’t it?

josef

June 11th, 2012
4:06 pm

saywhat

I inherited mine, so I’m better than YOU! :-)

Peter

June 11th, 2012
4:06 pm

saywhat? . really you are better than whom ?

Jay

June 11th, 2012
4:06 pm

“But former Black Panther and anti-semite Charles Barron will welcomed by the democrat party caucus when he wins a NY congressional seat…and not a peep from Mr. Bookman.”

Ah. One off-topic mention in a thread could be anything, but two such mentions must mean … DRUDGE!

And sure enough, there it is on Drudge: Distorting malleable minds since 1996.

Again, Barron faces a June 26 Democratic primary and is considered the underdog in the race.

It would be possible, I suppose, to run a feature on all the Republican primary congressional candidates around the country who are too loony to get their party’s nomination. But that doesn’t seem quite fair. I think it’s better to concentrate on those who actually win the nomination, like Sharron Angle or Christine O’Donnell, or those who actually even get elected, like Georgia’s own Paul Broun.

Thulsa Doom

June 11th, 2012
4:07 pm

Adam
June 11th, 2012
3:35 pm

If Haliburton did this, Dick Cheney would be on death row.

Best argument for privatizing SS EVER- Adam

Liberals do love to hate they do.

Paul

June 11th, 2012
4:08 pm

Brosephus

That business about just reading what was written (or listening to what was said) without any interpretation along the lines of “what he really means is ……..”?

Don’t try that with Mrs. Brosephus….

Peter

June 11th, 2012
4:08 pm

Oblama . Looks like George Bush was for big government, and BIG spending.

Oblama

June 11th, 2012
4:09 pm

GT – And there are no bigots among socialists? The KKK is non existent today as a force and the group of idiots applying for the Adopt A Highway Program aren’t even from Georgia. They are from Alabama. Like the so called New Black Panther Party they are just a bunch of disorganized racist thugs looking for attention.

carlosgvv

June 11th, 2012
4:10 pm

One more time!!!! Corporations are reporting record profits and are awash in cash. Unfortunately, they aren’t bothering to do much hiring. This is what Obama meant by his remarks on the private sector.

josef

June 11th, 2012
4:10 pm

PAUL

It does for a fact. L’il Princess was over with the boys the other day talking about where to go on vacation. It was really nice to hear, “we’ve got a little money put aside for it…”

That Black Guy

June 11th, 2012
4:11 pm

Brosephus™

June 11th, 2012
2:50 pm
TBG @ 2:38

This Top Ten is in your honor, especially #1…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N3-x8XjftQ&feature=related
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I’ll check it out at home. I don’t Tube at work.

John Birch

June 11th, 2012
4:11 pm

Steve – Keynes suggested deficit government spending when you’re in recession but paying it back when you’re not. We are not in recession. BTW, I’m not advocating balancing the 2013 budget but a requirement to do so sooner rather than later. Spending tax money on transfer payments and infrastructure is better than spending it on interest on the debt.

Williebkind

June 11th, 2012
4:12 pm

Read More » Study: Children From Same-Sex Homes Have Lower Income, Poorer Mental & Physical Health

Now that explains all I need to know about the liberals on CNN and AJC.

josef

June 11th, 2012
4:12 pm

carlos

No Christians? You’re slipping, Bubba,,, :-)

Brosephus™

June 11th, 2012
4:13 pm

Paul

Gotcha!!!

pogo

June 11th, 2012
4:13 pm

Jeez Jay, if you’re bent on being a political hack at least use something better than this. Kyle just cut your bit to pieces. My advice to you (which I know is worth like, nothing to you) is before you and your MediaMatters boys jump on something, at least think about it for a few minutes. And by all means look in the mirror man when you are talking about radical politics!

Oblama

June 11th, 2012
4:13 pm

Peter – “W” gave the Dem Congress a rubber stamp ’cause he wanted to be loved. I can’t recall hardly anything he vetoed. I’m not a big government supporter no matter which party they come from. Not going to make excuses for “W” or Obama.

Thulsa Doom

June 11th, 2012
4:14 pm

“Unfortunately, they aren’t bothering to do much hiring. -carlosgvv

Why would they hire people that they don’t need?

Brosephus™

June 11th, 2012
4:15 pm

TBG

The video is Sportscenter Top 10 countdown of post-game meltdowns. Dennis Green’s “They were who we thought they were!” is #1. Since you brought that up, I’ve looked at it about 10 times just for laughs.

Paul

June 11th, 2012
4:15 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

You know, we do in fact get a number of newbies when school’s out…

straitroad

“But former Black Panther and anti-semite Charles Barron will welcomed by the democrat party caucus ”

Does this mean you’re going to work against Candidate Romney ’cause he’s LDS and former Black Panther leader Eldridge Cleaver became a member of the LDS church?

As Wiki puts it: “In the early 1980s, Cleaver became disillusioned with what he saw as the commercial nature of mainstream evangelical Christianity and examined alternatives, including Sun Myung Moon’s campus ministry organization CARP, and Mormonism.[15] Cleaver was baptized into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on December 11, 1983,[16][17] periodically attended regular services, lectured by invitation at LDS gatherings, and was a member of the church in good standing at the time of his death in 1998.”

Jay

June 11th, 2012
4:15 pm

Your concern is noted and has been given all the credence it deserves, Pogo.

josef

June 11th, 2012
4:15 pm

Willie

Wanna talk to me about our kids from a same-sex household? Put ‘em up against anything the breeders can pull out any day of the week…and that’s not to bad mouth the heterosexuals. They do a pretty good job of it all around…of course, sometimes us same-sex folks do have to pick up the slack, but hey, ain’t that what we’re all supposed to be about?

curious

June 11th, 2012
4:15 pm

Somebody needs to adopt the Interstates. Interstate “alligators” are everywhere.

Take it easy on Ben.

pogo

June 11th, 2012
4:18 pm

Josef, you been on a roll man! One voice of reasoned thought in a bleak wasteland of vicious partisan politics.

josef

June 11th, 2012
4:18 pm

PAUL

I did not know that! Thanks. Interesting, eh?

Jay

June 11th, 2012
4:18 pm

“Like the so called New Black Panther Party they are just a bunch of disorganized racist thugs looking for attention.”

Exactly. Maybe we should introduce them.