Wall Street pay packages … well, you know what they did

According to an analysis from Bloomberg, CEO compensation for the nation’s 50 biggest financial companies “collectively rose by an average of 20.4 percent in 2011 — a year when most big banks and brokerages saw their revenues, profits and stock prices plummet. The 2011 pay rise followed a 26 percent increase in 2010 for CEOs who held the same job in both years …

“Overall, 33 of the 50 biggest financial companies had negative share returns in their 2011 fiscal years, as they were buffeted, particularly in the second half of the year, by a series of crises that froze the deal markets.”

So let me see if I’ve got this financial CEO gig figured out:

In a bad year in which you produce negative returns for your shareholders and most Americans are just happy to have a job, you increase your multi-million-dollar pay package by an average of 20 percent. Over a two-year period, your already extravagant compensation jumps a total of 50 percent on average.

And of course, all this follows a really really bad year, a historically bad year in which all the high-risk bets that you place go wrong and threaten to bring down the global economy. The collapse is so complete that the federal government is forced to come in and bail out your industry with hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars.

But do you feel the slightest bit chagrined or humble? Hell no. In fact, if the feds then try to insist on tighter regulations, telling you that they don’t want to have to bail out your sorry butts next time, you pout and whine about how you feel unappreciated and put-upon, and you then dump a few spare million into the campaigns of politicians who are willing to kiss your ring and tell you how wonderful you are.

Did I get that right?

– Jay Bookman

757 comments Add your comment

Rebecca

June 5th, 2012
6:00 pm

This smacks of collusion. Whoever is approving of these exorbitant salary raises must be getting a kickback. Say I’m Fred. I inform the compensation committee that if you as a body OK a $20 million salary hike for me, I’ll pay each of you $1 million or $2 million for your trouble. This is the only way I can logically reason that a CEO gets a 20 percent increase in salary for losing the company money. There’s something stinking rotten going on on Wall Street.

They BOTH suck

June 5th, 2012
6:00 pm

TD

After 18 plus yrs of being the “rank and file” then giving it one more shot for 2 yrs at another company……….. I decided to be the CEO & “rank and file”. I have had some lengthy discussions in the mirror. :-)

I'sMe

June 5th, 2012
6:04 pm

Obama’s Wall Street donors.

Let us know when those CEOs have to make bail.

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

June 5th, 2012
6:04 pm

These are all your guys, Jay – Democrats. President Kardashian (new one from Rush) can not survive without them. Corzine types.

Rebecca

June 5th, 2012
6:05 pm

Get Real John. U.S. taxpayers never had to bail out George Clooney, et al. You got your head up your fanny.

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
6:07 pm

Tundra Dude

June 5th, 2012
6:08 pm

Cutty 2:08 pm, wrote:
It’s a free market and they should get paid however shareholders believe they should.

Surely U Jest! In a less-corrupt Gubmint, the Bankster CEOs unemployed/unemployable, imo.

from Elizabeth Warren:

“In a financial crisis like the current one,the government has three choices”:

1. Liquidate failed banks. (That’s what happened in the S&L crisis. The government took over institutions, fired the managers, wiped out investors, but protected depositors. A lot of savings and loans simply went out of business.)

2. Put them in receivership. (That’s what Sweden did in the 1990s: failed managers were fired and replaced, depositors were protected, and the banks were returned to private hands under new management with healthier balance sheets.) or

3. Subsidize the banks. This last option is what led Japan to its “lost decade”–the real value of bank assets are obscured, as the government funnels tax money into insolvent banks, propping them up indefinitely. This last is the approach the United States is now taking.

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
6:08 pm

Time for dinner, play nice

Josef

Lay off the firewater tonight :-)

Thulsa Doom

June 5th, 2012
6:09 pm

“There are probably far more now who would know and would give a sh*t than there were 10 years ago.”

Perhaps. But I doubt very many people have researched or much less give a hoot how much their CEO makes. If you ask 100 McDonalds employees how much their CEO makes how many of them honestly would know? Or care?

“but I don’t contribute nearly as much to their salaries as I do for those CEO’s.”

If that bothers you then obviously then don’t buy the products of companies who you feel overpay their CEOs just as you may not attend the overpriced cost of a football game. If United’s CEO makes 12 cents a month off my insurance policy than I’m cool with that. But if for example you feel BOA paid Moynihan too much money then don’t do business with them.

” I don’t particularly care for the “gimme, gimme” types that could give a f**k less about me and mine.”

I’m not sure what you’re saying here Bro. Are you suggesting that the average CEO is heartless and doesn’t care about his employees. I’ve dealt directly with several CEOs around town of household name companies. Its not the impression I get of them at all. In fact I get the opposite impression and if you also are a fan of undercover boss then you’ve seen that many CEOs really do care about their employees.

saywhat?

June 5th, 2012
6:10 pm

Thulsa Doom

June 5th, 2012
5:47 pm
“I think the empirical evidence is pretty obvious that spreading out CEO pay or half of their pay amongst the employees of these 50 banks amounts to peanuts. ”
_______________________________________________________________
But the effect on the economy would NOT be peanuts. All that money would be spent on products and services across the whole economy, stimulating job growth everywhere, instead of being offshored or use to play financial bingo.

Thulsa Doom

June 5th, 2012
6:12 pm

They both suck,

I hear ya. I’m the CEO and rank and file pencil pusher and salesman of Doomy’s little insurance enterprise. And in my corporate life I saw lots of execs at Worldcom that quite frankly I didn’t think were worth a damn. Lotta politicking and crap like that. But that’s just life and the harsh reality of the world. So I left.

Tundra Dude

June 5th, 2012
6:15 pm

Hell no. In fact, if the feds then try to insist on tighter regulations…

No worries, mate. The Republican Hookers have already introduced 9 bills (last time I checked) to prevent any reg reforms. (We don’t need no stinkin’ regs, the next crash will be paid by the Little peeps, again, let ‘em get used to it)

Thulsa Doom

June 5th, 2012
6:17 pm

saywhat,

Can you cite a study or empirical data that would show that if CEOs gave back say half their pay to rank and file employees that it would stimulate the economy?

And in a 14 trillion dollar economy the CEO pay of say the top 500 S &P companies is a joke in the great scheme of things. Spreading their pay out amongst employees as I showed in previous posts would do virtually nothing. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. Just look at my examples and you will understand why.

Thulsa Doom

June 5th, 2012
6:18 pm

Doomy out for awhile. You guys have fun and play nice.

Skip

June 5th, 2012
6:23 pm

It takes a giant pair to whine how regs are killing your business as you get a 20% raise.

Brosephus™ - Got Collective Bargaining power?

June 5th, 2012
6:25 pm

Doom

If you asked 100 McDonalds employees if they were going to be working there in a year’s time, how many do you think would answer in the affirmative? Not to belittle your example, but McDonalds would not be one that I would use. Do you not think the traders on Wall Street know what their CEO’s make? I’m sure you’d find many in real estate companies that know. People who are working careers would more likely know or be somewhat curious if they have a desire to climb the ladder. I don’t know of too many who want to make a career out of McDonalds, even though ownership does have it’s benefits.

As to buying products, I’m very particular about what I buy and where I shop partly because of that. Companies that treat their employees well get my business. Companies that manufacture here get my business. Companies that don’t do those things don’t get my money unless it’s competely unavoidable. I’m not just somebody who spouts things off. I try to live by my word.

I’m not sure what you’re saying here Bro. Are you suggesting that the average CEO is heartless and doesn’t care about his employees.

That’s not what I’m suggesting. I meant exactly what I said. If your drive is gimme… gimme… gimme… and you don’t care about those who get you to where you’re going, then I don’t have any sympathy or empathy for you. I watch Undercover Boss, and I know there are good CEO’s out there. That doesn’t whitewash the fact that there are bad ones too. And it’s not just CEO’s that I feel that way about. Whether it’s entertainers, athletes, politicians, or anybody else, that applies the same to them. That’s just me. If you look out for your fellow person, I can respect and dig that. If you can’t do that, why should I do it for you?

A Simple Man

June 5th, 2012
6:26 pm

Paul @ 2:20

Actually, those Hollywood types DO go to Congress and beg for our money. It’s called funding for the arts, and they get plenty of it.

josef

June 5th, 2012
6:27 pm

Okay, so they win in the rat race, they’re still rats.

OedipusTax

June 5th, 2012
6:28 pm

Jay Bookman’s professional jealousy of not making the bucks that are available on Wall Street is obvious. If Jay had the talent, or the ability, to trade on Wall Street, and be a doer, rather than an obscure, mediocre critic on a failing liberal news outlet, you can bet he would. Instead, he’s left showing us his version of liberal class envy, which is all liberals have to offer these days. They demand that misery be equally shared and that outcomes always be equal. Such a sad excuse for a columnist with any brains.

Matti

June 5th, 2012
6:36 pm

Okay, Venus is in transit now. Can we feel the love yet?

josef

June 5th, 2012
6:38 pm

FRED

Yeah, I’m a Plantation Liberal Delusional Lickspittle… :-)

OEDIPUS

I betcha al Shariff Imam Bruin Torquemada doesn’t like you too much either!

TaxPayer

June 5th, 2012
6:43 pm

Well THERE’s the problem. The Democrats have not passed the Republican tax cuts for the job creators! Damn. That was easy. Next.

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
6:46 pm

OEDIPUS

I bet you are fun at parties when you crap on the hosts living room floor :-)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 5th, 2012
6:47 pm

Jay is jealous.

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
6:48 pm

josef

can you be banned for calling yourself a lickspittle?

:-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
6:51 pm

Unlike some here (who have gov’t pensions) Jay might be a bit peeved when he saw his 401k get tanked due to investments in Wall Street.

:-)

Soothsayer

June 5th, 2012
6:52 pm

hiram b granbury

June 5th, 2012
6:52 pm

OedipusTax
June 5th, 2012
6:28 pm

” If Jay had the talent, or the ability, to trade on Wall Street, and be a doer, rather than an obscure, mediocre critic on a failing liberal news outlet, you can bet he would.”

Do you consider psychopathy to be talent? CEOs are 5 times more likely to be psychopaths than the general population.

Brosephus™ - Got Collective Bargaining power?

June 5th, 2012
6:56 pm

Unlike some here (who have gov’t pensions) Jay might be a bit peeved when he saw his 401k get tanked due to investments in Wall Street.

I have a goverment pension, and I’m still peeved about my TSP losing money. I haven’t lost nearly as much as some of my co-workers though. I usually opt to back G-bonds when the market looks shaky. I haven’t had any significant money in the market since the debt limit debate and Greece started looking shaky. :)

Soothsayer

June 5th, 2012
6:58 pm

LUCIFER

June 5th, 2012
6:59 pm

I’ve got to hand it to you Jay. Yes, you are very patient and understanding with most in your audience. But to live day in and day out with some of the harsh criticism would surely sink a lesser person. People such as Oedipus and his ilk can be challenging. But I respect the job you do and your openness and willingness to allow in all points of view. But some of the comments are so personal towards you. I’ll admit you do have some intelligent followers who are passionate about their viewpoints, be they conservative, libertarian, liberal or whatever. But sadly, you have so many writers filled with vindictiveness and anger that they miss entirely the subject thread of the day. I know we have to wade through the less mentally advantaged to get the real meat from the ones who enjoy your enlightenment and logic and respond accordingly, in a clear, concise string of reasoning that is easy to follow and makes good sense. I’ll admit, I doubt I could hang in there day after day and suffer fools. Anyway, keep up the good fight. You are a real inspiration in a forest of overall ignorance.

getalife

June 5th, 2012
7:05 pm

josef

June 5th, 2012
7:06 pm

Common Sense

I don’t know…I keep trying and am getting nowhere… :-)

josef

June 5th, 2012
7:08 pm

getalife

“Jay envy”

Gotta remember that one! :-)

Jay

June 5th, 2012
7:09 pm

Oedipus, given the limitations placed upon me by my profession, I’ll restrain myself and observe that, well, you chose an appropriate name.

getalife

June 5th, 2012
7:09 pm

josef,

donovan has it real bad.

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
7:10 pm

josef

Is toady acceptable then :-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
7:10 pm

Jay

:-) then MF is acceptable

Jay

June 5th, 2012
7:13 pm

Don’t forget the self-inflicted blindness, Common. That’s also a good part of being our friend Oedipus.

Brosephus™ - Got Collective Bargaining power?

June 5th, 2012
7:15 pm

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
7:17 pm

Blind MF -

None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see.

Matthew Henry

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 5th, 2012
7:18 pm

I think the government should step in an regulate what professional sports players get.

$30,000,000 is just too much for a quarterback who can blow a game with a thrown interception !!!!

Normal Free, Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 5th, 2012
7:18 pm

Jay envy?

You rang? :D

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 5th, 2012
7:19 pm

And $10,000,000 for some Hollywood starlet to make a movie that bombs ?

Give me a break.

We need a cabinet level “Department of Pay Control” !!!

Normal Free, Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 5th, 2012
7:19 pm

Self inflicted blindness? Wait! You don’t mean… :shock: !!

Normal Free, Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 5th, 2012
7:20 pm

…which begs the question…if you’re right handed, does your right eye go blind first?

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
7:20 pm

Normal

He just needs glasses :-)

hiram b granbury

June 5th, 2012
7:21 pm

Jay

June 5th, 2012
7:09 pm
“Oedipus, given the limitations placed upon me by my profession, I’ll restrain myself and observe that, well, you chose an appropriate name.”

Jay, Based on his moniker, I doubt that he has ever heard of Sophocles.

USMC

June 5th, 2012
7:21 pm

“Wall Street pay packages … well, you know what they did”–Comrade Bookman

Ahhh Yes! Just as it appears that Scott Walker will defeat the “recall” & JAY’s Socialist “wet dream” policies in Wisconsin, Comrade Bookman attacks Capitalism and our countries Successful Financial leaders…. coincidence… I think not. Sour Grapes Jay. Go make your own Success/Money.
As Jay continues the extremist propaganda and the good soldier’s fight for “social justice” and the “people’s party”. LOL! :-)

Rebecca

June 5th, 2012
7:22 pm

You lingering fellows need to say goodnight.

Jm

June 5th, 2012
7:24 pm

Jay is off topic :)

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
7:25 pm

Rebecca
You lingering fellows need to say goodnight.

———————————————–

I hope you meant malingering fellows :-)

And I do resemble that LOL

josef

June 5th, 2012
7:26 pm

REBECCA

Okay, good night, sleep tight…

Brosephus™ - Got Collective Bargaining power?

June 5th, 2012
7:28 pm

Jay,Based on his moniker, I doubt that he has ever heard of Sophocles.

According to NoCom, he’s very hands on with Testocles though. :)

Jm

June 5th, 2012
7:28 pm

I see wealth envy discussions have been running rampant

Probably notta mucho of much substance discussed

Per the usual :)

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
7:33 pm

Bro

I only implied that :-)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 5th, 2012
7:33 pm

And I don’t like it when former Presidents (and their spouses) Republican or Democrat make million dollar book deals just because they served in government. They worked for the taxpayer so that money BELONGS to the taxpayer !

Please return it !!!

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 5th, 2012
7:34 pm

And while we are at it, I think Jay makes too much money !!!

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 5th, 2012
7:35 pm

And in conclusion:

INEPTOCRACY:

“A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the
confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.”

Jm

June 5th, 2012
7:35 pm

Scout

I prefer to own my intellectual capital….

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 5th, 2012
7:36 pm

Ooops ! One more:

“THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM IS AN AK-47 AIMED AT YOUR HEAD” Quang Nguyen

Keep going Jay !

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 5th, 2012
7:37 pm

Jm:

I hear you. This is all about wealth envy.

Soothsayer

June 5th, 2012
7:44 pm

War drums are beating again in Washington. This time Syria is in the crosshairs after a massacre there last week left more than 100 dead. As might be expected from an administration with an announced policy of “regime change” in Syria, the reaction was to blame only the Syrian government for the tragedy, expel Syrian diplomats from Washington, and announce that the US may attack Syria even without UN approval. Of course, the idea that the administration should follow the Constitution and seek a Declaration of War from Congress is considered even more anachronistic now than under the previous administration.

It may be the case that the Syrian military was responsible for the events last week, but recent bombings and attacks have been carried out by armed rebels with reported al-Qaeda ties. With the stakes so high, it would make sense to wait for a full investigation — unless the truth is less important than stirring up emotions in favor of a US attack.

There is ample reason to be skeptical about US government claims amplified in mainstream media reports. How many times recently have lies and exaggerations been used to push for the use of force overseas? It was not long ago that we were told Gaddafi was planning genocide for the people of Libya, and the only way to stop it was a US attack. Those claims turned out to be false, but by then the US and NATO had already bombed Libya, destroying its infrastructure, killing untold numbers of civilians, and leaving a gang of violent thugs in charge.

The story about the Syrian massacre keeps changing, which should raise suspicions. First, we were told that the killings were caused by government shelling, but then it was discovered that most were killed at close range with handgun fire and knives. No one has explained why government forces would take the time to go house to house binding the hands of the victims before shooting them, and then retreat to allow the rebels in to record the gruesome details. No one wants to ask or answer the disturbing questions, but it would be wise to ask ourselves who benefits from these stories.

Jm

June 5th, 2012
7:45 pm

Scout 7:37

Ah. Sorry then. Continue on :)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 5th, 2012
7:48 pm

Jm:

Aye, aye sir !

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

June 5th, 2012
7:49 pm

Soothsayer:

I’m more concerned about the massacres in Mexico.

josef

June 5th, 2012
7:50 pm

JM
“I prefer to own my intellectual capital….”

Then why are you so opposed to welfare? :-)

Narcissus

June 5th, 2012
7:54 pm

I’m envious of…. Myself.

Soothsayer

June 5th, 2012
7:58 pm

Ever since the beginning of the financial crisis and Quantitative Easing, the question has been before us: How can the Federal Reserve maintain zero interest rates for banks and negative real interest rates for savers and bond holders when the US government is adding $1.5 trillion to the national debt every year via its budget deficits? Not long ago the Fed announced that it was going to continue this policy for another 2 or 3 years. Indeed, the Fed is locked into the policy. Without the artificially low interest rates, the debt service on the national debt would be so large that it would raise questions about the US Treasury’s credit rating and the viability of the dollar, and the trillions of dollars in Interest Rate Swaps and other derivatives would come unglued.

In other words, financial deregulation leading to Wall Street’s gambles, the US government’s decision to bail out the banks and to keep them afloat, and the Federal Reserve’s zero interest rate policy have put the economic future of the US and its currency in an untenable and dangerous position. It will not be possible to continue to flood the bond markets with $1.5 trillion in new issues each year when the interest rate on the bonds is less than the rate of inflation. Everyone who purchases a Treasury bond is purchasing a depreciating asset. Moreover, the capital risk of investing in Treasuries is very high. The low interest rate means that the price paid for the bond is very high. A rise in interest rates, which must come sooner or later, will collapse the price of the bonds and inflict capital losses on bond holders, both domestic and foreign.

The question is: when is sooner or later?

sam

June 5th, 2012
8:01 pm

someone mentioned they should be paid as the sareholders decide, not quite. as the hand-picked board of directors decides. and dont forget the nice , easy paycehck these board members get for 4 meetings a year. it is scamm through and through. gains are kept the losses are spread around to their “customers” and the general public. it used to be wall street put money into a business that created jobs and economic gains for all. now they move money around and derive value from the money itself and nothing more. its a shell game.

Normal Free, Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 5th, 2012
8:02 pm

Wisconsin...

June 5th, 2012
8:02 pm

“I know the president is aware of the election. I think he’s got some other responsibilities,” Carney said.

TRANSLATION……if Walker wins, Obama is screwed!

Jm

June 5th, 2012
8:02 pm

Josef

I’m sorry, do people who don’t get welfare lose their intellectual capital?

What kind of rabbit hole have you guys been running around in?

Jm

June 5th, 2012
8:04 pm

Wisconsin will not make or break the presidential election

josef

June 5th, 2012
8:05 pm

NORMAL

“Self inflicted blindness? Wait! You don’t mean… !!”

Ooooo…I just caught that! :-)

Normal Free, Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 5th, 2012
8:06 pm

Great minds, Josef… :D

Jm

June 5th, 2012
8:07 pm

When do WI polls close?….

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
8:07 pm

Josef/Normal

Warped minds you mean :-)

josef

June 5th, 2012
8:08 pm

JM
“What kind of rabbit hole have you guys been running around in?”

“Wisconsin will not make or break the presidential election”

Answered you own question…

Soothsayer

June 5th, 2012
8:08 pm

My innocent, ignorant, naive, gullible, easily-deceived sheeple-people: I wish you an uninformed good night. Keep your eyes closed, your ears stopped and most of all your brains dumbed-down with main-stream-media (Lush, Vannity, Speck, Bellow, Doorkz, Anger’em, etc.) propaganda. No one deserves it more than you!

Common Sense isn't very Common

June 5th, 2012
8:08 pm

Jm

The Dems tonight at 7pm the repubs tomorrow at midnight :-)

Soothsayer

June 5th, 2012
8:09 pm

OH! I almost forgot! Don’t, under any circumstances, do any reading on the side!

Normal Free, Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

June 5th, 2012
8:10 pm

Common Sense isn’t very Common

June 5th, 2012
8:07 pm

:lol: :lol:

Liberal Wayne Kerr

June 5th, 2012
8:11 pm

Scott walker is winning. :(

josef

June 5th, 2012
8:12 pm

SOOTH

The local Alawite paramilitaries did the killing, that’s why they left.

Jm

June 5th, 2012
8:12 pm

Jack in Cumming

June 5th, 2012
8:16 pm

Scott walker needs to run for president one day. Here is a guy who won an election fair and square and passes legislation fair and square. Unfortunately liberals don’t play fair and due to legislation they disagree with have thrown a huge temper tantrum that will leave a BO smell in the capital building that will take years to get rid of.

Why I’d there a recall? Because the liberals didn’t get their way. I wish we could do a recall of Obama. Guess November will do

Meanwhile...

June 5th, 2012
8:16 pm

Peter Wehner June 2012

“…Consider the economy. President Obama has overseen the weakest recovery on record. He is on track to have the worst jobs record of any president in the modern era. The standard of living for Americans has fallen more dramatically during his presidency than during any since the government began recording it five decades ago. As of this writing, unemployment has been above 8 percent for 38 consecutive months, the longest such stretch since the Great Depression. Home values are nearly 35 percent lower than they were five years ago. A record 46 million Americans are now living in poverty.

The economist Michael Boskin has listed some of the post–World War II records set during the Obama years: among them, federal spending as a percentage of GDP at 25 percent, the federal debt as a percentage of GDP at 67 percent, and the budget deficit as a percentage of GDP at 10 percent. The United States has amassed more than $5 trillion in debt since January 2009, with the president having submitted four budgets with trillion-dollar-plus deficits. (Prior to Obama, no president had submitted even a single budget with deficits in excess of a trillion dollars.) In addition, government dependency, defined as the percentage of persons receiving one or more federal benefit payments, is the highest in American history.

Add to this the fact that the president’s signature domestic achievement, the Affordable Care Act, is among the most unpopular major domestic policies passed in the last century; and that the $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, widely known as Obama’s stimulus package, is so unpopular that his aides have virtually expelled the word stimulus from their lexicon…”

Jack in Cumming

June 5th, 2012
8:20 pm

This blog is hilarious. Jay Bookman really has a taste for comedy

josef

June 5th, 2012
8:22 pm

JACK

Lemme see if I got this right. Scott Walker played by the rules, fair and square (good). Okay. The liberals played by the rules of the State of Wisconsin, fair and square (bad).

And you think Jay has a taste for comedy…

Jm

June 5th, 2012
8:24 pm

Jack

Jay is an instigator

Don't Forget

June 5th, 2012
8:26 pm

Jay

June 5th, 2012
7:09 pm

Jay, that was righteous!!! :lol:

getalife

June 5th, 2012
8:28 pm

walker lost.

Jack in Cumming

June 5th, 2012
8:28 pm

Liveraks played by the rules and again lost. Scott walker has set the roadmap out for righting the ship. The whole public union thing is s joke. State tax payers pay employees, employees forced to pay union sues, unions give 99 percent of PAC monies to liberal candidates. Liberal candidates protect unions. Any questions? It’s a lovely circle of life

josef

June 5th, 2012
8:28 pm

“Jay is an instigator”

True, but he’s not EOI…can’t be EOI if you’re being paid to do it…

josef

June 5th, 2012
8:31 pm

JACK
@ 8:28

“Any questions?”

Yeah, are the Liveraks that nice Hungarian family down the block? What did they lose?

Jack in Cumming

June 5th, 2012
8:32 pm

I mean jay is what he is…a punch line in a dying industry. Liberal media is going down as information becomes more available each day

Jack in Cumming

June 5th, 2012
8:33 pm

Sorry about spelling. Just got an iphone

getalife

June 5th, 2012
8:34 pm

Yeah, drudgey is soooooooo credible .

getalife

June 5th, 2012
8:35 pm

Down goes the gop.